What it’s like…. With Bull & J-Roc
Haven't you ever seen a veteran and wondered about them and their past? Who they are as a person? What they have done and where they have been, to what they've been through that brings them to the nexus in life they are at? Two vets coming together talking about what it’s like to be a veteran and the struggles we deal with that aren’t commonly known. Also occasional interviews to reach out and get to know veterans from great stories to weird quirks or abilities. Hear veteran stories from their own mouth and in their own words unfiltered and with all the fun that comes with getting to know any veteran. Some will make you laugh, some will make you cry, but its a journey we've taken and we welcome you along for the ride. And of course learn all the crazy jokes and lines we enjoy that give us direction in our lives.
What it’s like…. With Bull & J-Roc
Racist grass, new projects and aliens.
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Bull after yardwork, upcoming projects and now the wife is coming home.
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Well, I hope things haven't gotten too crazy for everybody. Because I mean, these days people are just literally saying anything. Because when it comes down to it, according to a very um, I guess I would say misunderstood woman online, um, lawns are racist. Well, if that's the case, then I just spent over an hour taking care of my racist lawn. So then I would think then that would make me a racist, which is weird though, because I do it not just for my wife, because she's from somewhere from she's from the Caribbean, so she's used to green and desert landscape isn't really for her, but also for my dog. So it's really interesting when you pull that all through because it's like, wow, people that take care of their lawns are racist, but then I did it for like my dog and another person, and that my wife is from Jamaica. Yeah, I have no idea where they are going with some of this stuff. Like they are they are literally they're crazy. And from the um little clips and everything that I've seen online and on TV and everything from this girl, I mean, because some people have really taken it to heart, and some people have made jokes about it, but from the looks of that girl, she doesn't look so much like she even gets up even and does her landscaping. So I wouldn't be listening to her talk about grass anyway, because she's probably high on grass, doesn't know what the heck she's talking about. But anyway, aside from that, one of the things that is gonna be coming up that we have as a new project is we are going to take the ability to build a podcast to the VA as a project, and over the past couple days, I've been putting some of the um work together for it, everything from a lesson plan, a budget, pros and cons list, like the whole thing. So that is what I'm gonna do to get one started. And if it's something that, you know, to you sounds interesting, then all you're gonna have to do is ask about it. So um, but something else that I've been taking time and working on, it's interesting because a lot of times when I have new ideas, you know, I don't know if you know other people do this or whatever, but a lot of times when I get new ideas, I'll ask my wife to kind of read over it, you know. Kind of like uh, hey babe, read this. Does this make me sound crazy, or is this does this actually make sense? And um it was funny because she was going through stuff and everything, and um she was reading it, and as she was following through, she made the comment, she was like, This sounds a lot like LSA, and that's Life Skills Apprenticeship, which was a nonprofit that I was working on a couple years ago, and it's really interesting because it is a lot like it, it's a similar type concept and everything like that, but um whether you look at my not the non-profit that I was working to build or the new project that I'm building up, it shows that veterans, all veterans, we are still capable of like more more than what the VA has to offer in a sense, and I don't mean that to say that the VA has done anything wrong, it's just when you take a program like rec recreational therapy or something like that, and you take a huge group of people, all the veterans, and then you give them a few programs to work with. That's one thing. Well, if you turn it around and get it to where now the veterans are the ones that are the programs, then the diversity in what can be offered is, I swear, it practically endless. Um I don't think it's necessarily one of those things that so much should be like looked at and say, oh well, you know, they did wrong because they didn't do this or whatever. It's it's more so one of those things where I think it's it's that time, you know. Um technology makes it to where our technology moves so much faster now, and the VA can't put together a program, then use that program and be like, all right, we're gonna coast on this for like you know the next 20 years. It's not gonna work, won't happen. Because even on the medical side, information five, six years down the down the road is changed. So when you think of it from that concept, they have a lot that they have to handle. Well, the veterans coming through, as much as they could turn around and create a brand new program for you know the youngest veterans and everything and everything and start doing that right now. That's fine. In 20, 30 years, though, that program isn't gonna be what the youngest veterans are interested in. It's in, it's gonna be what the veterans that are in their midlife are interested in. So they kind of have to keep up with it in a sense, almost. And I've I'm working on a way to where they can do that, and it not be something that's solely based off what the VA says. All of us vets will have a lot more say. So the the recreational therapy obviously would be where you know where things would where things would start, but as before, you know, it was like a dozen things, and then you get to choose from or whatever. We're gonna flip it around, and the the vets just get to choose what they want, and with so many vets, and then you take that across all the different uh or and then the possibility of classes. Like this isn't even, you know, oh, just something for someone to have fun or whatever. Like, this is something that can grow to where there have to be multiple classes for it, you know, or eventually it actually outgrows the VA. And as veterans get together and we're like, you know what, we're just gonna do our own thing, we can do our own group just like this, and yeah, do it. Some of the other stuff, eventually, you know, building friendships and everything like that. We won't we won't go to the VA because we'll be busy doing, you know, with our new hobby that we learned that we're gonna be doing with our new friends. So hopefully it's something that I can get the VA to take a serious look at. And yeah, it is. It's kind of similar to my idea for LSA, and when it comes down to it, it just shows veteran or not, we we have way more usefulness to us than we even think about. So, and it's really given me time, you know, over these past couple days, and just really thinking through all these things and different uses and everything like that. And then when I think back to anything that I had from LSA, it's it's gonna be a really, really big thing. So um definitely support would be nice. Um, and I'll give details, you know, when I can, you know. Um, obviously, because it's starting here in Arizona, it's not gonna be um available everywhere for everyone. But the way that my other project is working, everywhere is gonna have different stuff, or or every everywhere is gonna have different programs um on along the lines of because they'll have different um veterans in that location. So whether they're more sports-oriented or more um like uh books, or it's gonna depend it all that's gonna be based around that particular VA. So it's it's gonna be really cool. But like I said, I'll let you guys in on things as we go along. And then I I don't know. I mean I wanna say that it's something that's difficult, but it's more like one side just wasn't given a chance. And I think that's what's gonna sh really shine through the whole thing later this week. It's gonna be fun because I actually get a present my project podcast to some uh someone at the VA. And if we could move forward with that, that would be awesome. So and came from one of the therapists saying that they were trying to do new programs and they needed, you know, um to start new things to geared towards younger veterans and things like that. And we started talking, and a week later, I'm gonna present them with a program. It's gonna be all the things that they you know were were that we were talking about, and you know, it's gonna give all the ins and outs of everything, and hopefully they say yes. If not, oh well, if they say yes, then we're definitely creating more for sure, and it's gonna be amazing. Now aside from you know, just the fact that it's Sunday and whatnot, you know, like I said, I was doing my racist landscaping or like whatever, those people are insane. I don't I don't even get how that would work because so many people don't it's not even um like for an apartment or something like that. That's just for the aesthetics of a building. So actually, the in those particular places, it actually makes sure that people have jobs. So that I mean, because somebody has to do it. Like I said, the girl that was talking about that, she didn't look like she had ever been outside to do any that she didn't even look like she'd been outside to cut the flowers, you know. She no, it wasn't happening. It's so crazy because all the people, like it's weird. Whenever you see a video or anything like that of all these people, and they describe how unhappy they are and how much things suck. Do you ever notice they look like crap? Like, seriously, the guy, girl, whatever, they look like they freaking were like a cat that got stuck in a freaking um cardboard box and crawled out of it, and they're like, um, hey, yeah, and then then they're trying to give you like some sort of like way to live. And it's like, yo, um, you need to take a look in the mirror first. See that? Yeah. Might want to work on that. Yeah, start there. Freaking people. And then when it comes to periodically, we're gonna be also trying for what it's like a kind of variation of how things have been going. And sometimes me, Bull, will be here, and sometimes J-Rock will be here, and sometimes um both of us will be here. So we'll just have to see how things break down. But you know, we're we're working on multiple different things, and hey, you know, we're we're vets, we have a regular life too, so you know, we're just trying to navigate and do what we can with the uh time that we have. So there will be changes, but we'll see. It could be fun. I mean, I know when it comes to having um other conversations, J-Rock is not the type of person that you can have the aliens and UFOs conversations with. He's not too too much for that one. Me, on the other hand, well, okay. I'm not gonna turn around and say aliens built a pyramid because I think that would be some crazy, crazy ass shit. I think humans did it, but we were given help. And when we decided and we we started screwing things up, that's when the help left. So do I believe in extraterrestrials or higher power or however you're gonna look at that? Yeah, but I also believe that they were helping us, and because we couldn't basically control ourselves or whatever, eventually they just dipped out. Whether you want to say it was angels, aliens, whatever, okay. My whole thing is like I said, so I'll tell you, humans built to pyramids. We got that. The big gap is there's like I think it's two and a half million stones, and in the time period that that was supposed to be built, we would have had to been moving a stone and putting one in place every 14 minutes. Damn, we would have like that is like crazy fast. So yeah, either someone was helping us or it was here when we got here, and I don't think that was here when we got here, so we definitely got help. That that's that's my belief, you know, because there's just crazy stuff that's just all over the planet, you know, that you know definitely just makes you think. Like I'm not I'm not turning around and saying aliens did this or aliens that it just makes you think, you know. I mean, when it comes down to it, you know, all these things are misunderstood and whatever. What if it's not aliens? What if it's just us from the future trying to go back in time to help ourselves correct a mistake so we don't like put the human race into extinction? I think a lot of people when they go extinction, time travel. I think a lot of people be like, Yeah, go ahead and we need to travel, we need to do it. So maybe they're not aliens, maybe they're from the future. And maybe when you look at how evolution works, maybe because we use computers and all these things so much, and kids sit on their ass so much and play video games, they don't need to have big, strong arms and legs. They can be skinny, like you know, not like crazy, crazy skinny, but they can be a lot skinnier and be fine because they're not doing a whole lot, you know. Everything's for computers and whatever, so then the fact that the size of their head would double or triple or whatever, then that would make sense because over time, yeah, they get smarter. So the concept to me is more so that either it's a time travel thing, or people came and helped, and it was like a symbiotic, happy, you know, environment, and then we fucked it up. And they were like, you know what, we we can't deal with your shit. We're not we're not we're not bringing that back. Nope, sorry, we're out, and that was it, and that's why we've been on our own since then. Cause there, I mean, what is it 90 98% of all life on earth or some shit that's ever come is extinct. So there has to be some particular reason why out of everything that's been here, our I wouldn't necessarily say understanding, because there's a lot that we don't understand, but the process or the process, the ways and way the with that we see things is so much more vast, you know. I mean, yeah, so we haven't been around that long compared to say like the dinosaurs. Well, last time I checked, dinosaurs weren't building weren't building spaceships either. So in a short amount of time, we may have not been around that long. But we went from, you know, walking around, not doing anything, just blah blah blah blah, not having a language, and all of a sudden we're going around the moon and back. You know? So I mean, there's definitely things in there, you know, and genetic manipulation. That's something that we screw with on on our own, you know. Who wouldn't who wouldn't say that some um genetic manipulation happened back in like way back in our time, and that's the reason why they're they can't find the quote unquote missing link. Because it's not there. Because at one point they were genetic genetically manipulated, and then all from there on they all changed, they were all different, and that would make sense, you know. And again, I'm not saying this is what happened, I'm just saying it's things that come up, documentaries, you know, other things, and it's just like and it really makes you think. And like I said, not as much of a J-Rock one on this. This is more of a bowl. But, you know, I kinda, you know, travel through that whole video game universe too. So I mean, there's there's there's definitely some things that are on different levels. But I mean when you look at the future, what do you think people I don't know two thousand years, three thousand, you know, whatever thousands of years from now are gonna think when they come back and they look at shit and all this crazy, crazy stuff of these people saying weird shit that doesn't make sense, racist grass, that there's like, you know, I mean, I there was a thing for Canada the other day, and freaking this lady complained about the, you know, and she rant went out, rattled off like 18 freaking um different letters, and it's like it's just crazy. I mean, at one point, it's not so much uh are we gonna meet them, it's are they gonna want to be around us? Cause we're kinda like as a whole, yeah. We don't have our shit together. So in that sense, you could say we're like we're kind of toxic, and like I said, again, hence the reason why I said they could have been here, could have left, you know. But when it comes down to what we're achieving, you know, with Artemis and those astronauts, you know, welcome back to them, you know, but that's the furthest we've been from Earth, and that's just around the moon. If you when you look at the vastness of the universe and all the stars and all that, and you break that all that shit down, everything. Really? You're gonna say that from here, this is where intelligence is, nowhere else, and we have to explore all that, that would never happen. We'd never reach all of it, you know. So there's it's gonna be like, you know, Earth back in the day, you know, and there'll be pockets of civilization in places that'll eventually grow, and then we'll have, you know, Star Trek World. Cause I mean, yeah, there's definitely gonna be, you know, they've gotten um what is it microbes or whatever on pieces of rock and everything that have survived through space, so it can make it to another planet, you know, so it's out there. But the question is, you know, how advanced are they versus us and vice versa? And that's one of the things that's pretty crazy. And when it comes down to it, there's actually two things that I would say to look up or look into, and that's um you can go into the uh ancient aliens from History Channel, which is awesome, by the way. There's a lot of lot of cool stuff. It'll actually make you want to travel, and you'll want to see a lot of cool places. But another thing, um, for podcast Planet Tyrus, and he had interviewed a UFO specialist, or I don't remember exactly what it was, but um, and they were discussing about how, you know, the same thing, like that stuff was ours, not an alien's, you know, and like I said, you never know, but like with everything else that we say, look up the information and make up your own damn mind. Cause people could tell you all sorts of shit, but you're never gonna know if it's true, if it's real, you know. But if you look it up, then you can make an educated guess for yourself or decision, and then that's your decision. You're not following anyone else, and then anyone, anytime anyone turns around and goes, Well, I don't think, you know, ball ball, and they're gonna go totally against whatever it is for your opinion, then you definitely do you got a whole bag of ammunition to go after for that debate. And that that makes it good. Cause when you have an opinion and then you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and you like it's basically just smoke. Like, where did you get it from to start with? You know? And for me, you know, I admit ancient aliens was a lot, but I did on my own um check into a lot of stuff, and you know, because certain things it was like, oh, like what? Is that true? You know, and it's it's not like one of those things where it's like, oh well, it's Google's that's gonna make the difference. It's not that because some of those things aren't that are involved are involved with things that are really, really old. So it's old texts or stuff from the Bible, or you know, you know, the Constitution, or I mean things you can get from different sources that you don't have to Google, you know, so it's not like you're just asking a question and getting that particular answer. The one thing that I do have to do though, is I have to get ready to get some stuff finished. Because my wife's gonna be home for dinner. So gonna let you guys go. Probably talk to you again in a couple days. You can reach us at bull and jrock at gmail.com. Okay. And when it comes down to it, if you have any ideas, something that you think the VA should be working on or something maybe to change, shoot us an email. That's what we're doing right now, is we're working on projects to send to to send to the VA that then they can give us feedback and hopefully we can start changing some of these programs instead of just complaining about them. But until I said a few days from now, just try not to do anything crazy. And be good to each other. One of the things to keep in mind is kindness costs nothing. But if you're an ass, you're an ass. And that's gonna leave a mark. So just like I said, be kind to each other.