What it’s like…. With Bull & J-Roc
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What it’s like…. With Bull & J-Roc
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. Welcome. Another episode, another time spent with Bull and J-Rock. Another time with what it's like to be a veteran.
SPEAKER_02Yes, and sorry about this last um episode. Um, that was my fault. Um, it was an error. Um, things had to be recorded twice for another one that we're working on, and I had a seizure, and so between that and the seizure, I got confused with what had been done, and then my abilities for what I was able to work on really went down. So that was my fault.
SPEAKER_01But sorry. So I I'm just now finding this out, ladies and gentlemen. I didn't know that. Yeah. Hello, well, let me know. And when you when you ever have a seizure, let me know, and I'll slap you.
SPEAKER_02And uh hey, when it comes down to it, even though I might be laid up in bed or something like that, I still work on all these other programs and everything like that.
SPEAKER_01So he he this is Bulls, what you call an overachiever. Whoever's listening right now. I wouldn't necessarily have to do everything, get his hands in every situation and master it, which is cool. I I can do that. My brain would just implode.
SPEAKER_02I just get a situation and I just carry it one step, and then next, and then next, and the next, and then before you know it, okay, it's done, and I've gone far beyond what the original thing was. I don't, you know, do it on purpose or anything.
SPEAKER_01My brain, my head is a jar. And there's only certain things that fit in there as comfortable. And what happens when you drop the jar? That doesn't happen because supernatural things take place and I'm able to think outside the jar, but I'm basically my head is a jar. And my neck is made out of leather.
SPEAKER_02Okay. That's an interesting image there. I'm starting to think see something.
SPEAKER_01It's strong. Like leather. Stronger.
SPEAKER_02Oh, because you're a leatherneck, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, there you go. That's that's what you get with that. I had a wonderful day, though, Bull. Let me tell you though, real quick, my wife is such an awesome person. So she usually gets involved in uh city council meetings, right? Because she did a leadership, citizens' leadership course that talks about project management and development, what goes on in the cities. And the leaders and mayor and everyone else and officials. So today we had a flag raising ceremony at the Veterans Center, but also a memorandum of those that lost their lives and a wreath laying, um, 21 gun salute, bagpipes. You know, we had the Marine Corps League, uh, VFW, Veterans of Foreign War, American Legion. We had a lot of support, families. Uh Marine Corps League was there, the detachment I'm part of. Uh Joshua uh Lucero as a corporal. Uh anyhow, so it's an amazing moment and an event, but it really showcased the meaning of this day and what it represents. You know, my children were there. Got to see everything displayed, man. I thought it was a beautiful thing and the veterans there. And people I got to reconnect with, man. Oh my goodness, man, I told you. I haven't seen this man that was my section, my staff NCYC 25 years. I got to see him last when I joined the army, and he got to stay with me and his son, who grew up in Arizona some years back, I think in 2005. So I haven't seen a man for like 20 years, 20 plus 21 years, and all of a sudden I run into him at this event. And uh a great time to rekindle, and then another guy that we ran into that I served with. Things are coming full circle, and it's a beautiful thing what this day represents, but what we do as veterans. And uh you know, I just want to I want to do a moment of silence, man, for this day, what this day means for those that lost their lives for us and the freedoms that we have. The freedoms that we'll that Bull is gonna get into that we can talk about that people were doing and taking advantage of, but a moment of silence, please, for those men and those families, women and women women and men who lost their lives.
SPEAKER_00I agree. Thank you about that.
SPEAKER_02Well when it comes down to it, I know you know you've been really busy and things with work have been really hectic and you've had all your problems and everything like that. I mean, trust me, hey, a lot of us don't want to walk walk ten miles a day.
SPEAKER_01So I mean not complaining, like you know, I have a my boss, a director, you know, I know he can listen into our conversation and do as a seal, you know.
SPEAKER_02Well, but what I mean is like that's not that's not what everybody looks at every day is like that's my goal. Ideal. Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_01I mean originally, so it was like this. I walk about 132 flights of stairs, and equivalent to being, you know, roughly between 25 and 35,000 steps a day. And depending on what I'm doing, what you you know, what position I'm in. But sometimes it runs short, so you can walk a little bit more, which is fine. I do my best to get my routes done in a timely manner and rest. But uh sometimes it wears you, and I know that I have issues with my back and I have issues with uh my knees, and I'm getting a little older, so I know I have to really take care of myself, be careful. If I cannot, then I have to not be here working. And the only reason why I'm working is so I can make extra income, right? For my family, right? Where things cost. So I I but I really don't want to because I know how my body does, and I thank God, man, that I don't have that yeast for you, but I see things flaring up a little bit. So I'm sitting there like, oh man, you know, I might have to hang it up and start looking at other things, you know. I'm getting older, man. It's not it's not like an ideal job for someone of my age to be doing daily, you know. And I hey, I love my supervisor, man. Let me tell you, day supervisor, I want to give a shout out. Uh this dude, uh, his name's Garrett, bro. Like this dude, this, you know, younger brother type. Like he he's way ahead of his time. His brain, his mind. Um, the way he handles people, man, and takes care of his troops and goes above and beyond, you know. And his service was like fire. He did, he was a firefighter, EMT, he did stuff. He's an instructor, but he loves veterans and supports them, you know, and he works hard, man, for it. And I see his his thing. He's also EP, dude, like like me and others that do that as our main thing is EP. EP work, he's like a protection. But until things open, that's just how the job has been. And it's really been it's been wearing on me a little bit, man. You know, um getting me in shape though, mind you. You know, I want to look good for that summertime, so hey, and that body for my wife, dude. So I'm like, hey, looking feeling good. But yeah, you know, I gotta take a I gotta take an easy rest. I I think I gotta have less days, or I gotta just hang it up. That's how it used to be back in the day, though, bro. Like you'd be like, what? I had to fucking do it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, there was a little bit of a technical issue that I had to happen. So I had to, you know, get pause things and give an instruction, but uh, but apparently giving instructions is a little bit, you know, on a different level.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, I've had some serious uh are we recording right now? Yeah. Oh wow. Hey, I've had some serious instructors. I've had some serious instructors back in the day where I know they've seen some stuff, man, and they would that's how they would answer, you know. Like we'd go to school or training or do whatever I was doing, and they would get those straight up, you know, it's your fault answer for asking them. Like, you shouldn't, how dare you ask me that question? You should know better. Go figure it out. And you're just like, well, I came to you the first place. I need some help, man. And they'd be like, I don't go away. You know, like, okay. Well, I'll just be staying here for a minute, you know, because until I figure it out. Oh man. Reminiscing.
unknownReminiscing.
SPEAKER_01Tell me what's going on in the world today. Because I'll stay, I don't stay plugged in as much as I should. You you gotta, you're the computer. I'm the computer.
SPEAKER_02Well, okay, so when it comes down to it, one of the things that's come up recently, not just with me because um I was getting re uh recertified and everything, my license again. But um a lot of times uh in the media, socially, culturally, everything, there's these different stigmas on how much people smoke marijuana, you know?
SPEAKER_01Meaning why why do they care, first off? It whether you smoke a little or not. Like why do you why what what what matters to them about it?
SPEAKER_02Well, okay, for okay, that one part, I think there there it's two things. Uh one being the fact that they do it, and I mean, weed is a pretty strong smell.
SPEAKER_03So if you light up a blunt and it's just anywhere, I mean that that could definitely I mean you're gonna smell that throw away. So I mean, I get that part, you know. So yeah, there is the smell factor, and when you got like boom, all of a sudden like 20 blunts just got lit up within like 20 square feet and have designated areas just like cigarette smoke.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so like yeah, there has to, you know, I I understand it from you know the smell factor and the people that it's not they don't do it at all. Um, but I don't I don't know. Like so many people turn around and think that you know if you smoke too much weed, you're gonna turn into this like you know, stoned zombie that can't do anything or whatever.
SPEAKER_01No, no, I what I believe is this, no, but what I believe is this people are programmed. They they have they have seriously downgraded their mindset, and they have a compromise, meaning it's okay though, I can walk by people and they smoke cigarettes. They can stand on the corner and smoke it. It's been normalized. Yeah, it's been normalized, even in movies, right? It's like, oh, it's cool. Hey, they're just smoking cigarettes, oh no big deal. Right in front of you, you know, and you just and put it up. Oh, here's a here's a you know designated smoking area when you're working. Okay, but that that's not bringing any life to you whatsoever. That's in fact taking life out of you. And yet we have a plant that sustains healing, but known fact, that has done a lot of good organic homeopathic. Wow, you're really reaching for those big words. I am really reaching for these words. Wife's gonna have to help me later. I said, baby, you have to start reading more. Get your vocabulary up. That's the game. So, man, I'm I'm I'm looking at it like, man, it's natural, whether it's CBD, and I know the military has said no, army, like, heck no. Anything that has to do with countervoid, that is a no negative, you know, and it's like, yeah, because you guys push the envelope because somebody's gonna say, Well, I can just have a little bit of THC, more C BD on this, I'll be okay, you know, and then all of a sudden, oh, it was a C BD, sir, and TB, I that's why I didn't pass my test. You know, just like, you know, it's ridiculous, man. But no, not the drinking though that you did right the whole night before that day, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that was one of the things I never understood. I knew a couple people too that got busted, um uh like for one night when they smoked pot or something like that. But there were so many people that showed up to work beyond drunk and hung over, and yeah, and that stuff happened on like a regular basis, like it was not once or like you know, once a year after that one party or whatever. It was like uh every you know Monday morning, certain people showed up with a hangover, and every Friday morning there were certain people that already kind of had started drinking the night before. So it's like people are showing up like that and not getting in trouble, but then somebody that may have smoked the night before who no longer has that in their system is getting in trouble when they show up to work, and it's like I I don't think all sides of it have been really thought out fully to the extent of not not just like grand, like because you can't do like a breathalyzer type situation with weed or whatever, but what people are able to do and how long it lasts and the what the effects on you are, I don't I think they need to really look more into that.
SPEAKER_01You know, I think actually test people, you know how I think they should do it. Hope this is not a uh Yeah, I don't want to give this information out. Well, so be it. A cognitive test, meaning let's see if you are marijuana-lead, like if you have weed in your system, let's go ahead and you have to fill this out or write this out. Something to make your mind, you know, amaze. You gotta do this puzzle. Oh, you mean that would react if you had THC? Yeah, if you have THT and you and you have this amount of time to do this, go. You know, like things like that. Creative things, because people will be like, uh like, well, hey, let's just smell like it, you look like it, you can't pass tests.
SPEAKER_02Well, but see, that's the thing. It's like so okay, so you make a test for people to do things. What do you do with the people that pass the test and just boom? Like faster than a person that isn't even smoking, you know, or intoxicated. Because at that point, that person can function not just with it, but they're at an extremely high level to start with because the weed more than likely is kind of dumbing it down a little bit.
SPEAKER_03So imagine what they'd be like then at full strength.
SPEAKER_01Well, what about if when people have to do the you know the DUI test? When they have to do all this counting and they have to do all these other things that they do, and like you know, that's something different.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's what that's why, like I said, it it only it's only sticks with you for so long, but there's no way to do like a breathalyzer or something like that. I don't know. I just I think people come down really hard on it. And um Do you put if you if you were to come okay, so if you put uh the two things side by side, so put an opioid and weed side by side, and then go back and forth with the pros and cons. So they want to say weed is addictive. Okay, sure, go with that. An opioid is way more addictive than weed is. But why what makes it more addictive? Well, that the chemical it's made to be addictive. It is, right? It goes to the brain and tells the brain you need more of me. So when it comes down to it, you put those two things side by side. Yeah. It's it the addiction level for the opioid side. Okay. Then turn around and say, you know, how much it destroys your body and everything. Well, what they're both gonna destroy your body, but in different ways. Ways. One's a plant and one's a chemical. The chemical is gonna do a lot more damage to your kidneys and your liver than the plant will. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01I mean, and depending on what you're doing with the plant, though, if you you know ingest, you know, all different types of way of consume inside your body, so therefore, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And I mean, if you go to the maximum highest levels, then yes, then you basically take whatever that is for, I don't know, a 20% or something like that, and then multiply it by however far you've gone. But when you compare it to something like that, it's not it's not as bad, you know? Like the other one people are gonna do, not only are they gonna do way worse things, but then they'll actually like, you know, when you start getting into heroin and stuff like that, like that's a lot more dangerous people.
SPEAKER_01But that was used as a gateway, it was an excuse to use as a gateway. They read to use uh marijuana as a gateway drug for you to do other drugs. They don't want to accept ownership that might be the alcohol and the spirits that you just drank and everything else uh with it. Like maybe it was a mixture, but people don't want to blame that, they still want to allow those things that kill people. So that tells me I I don't know what we're we're what's going on in his life. Excuse me for my stut stuttering, but I don't know what's going on in his life, but I do know that something seems fishy here. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_02You want to talk about something seeming fishy or whatever? Little fish. Okay, so so I didn't, like I said, because of my seizure and everything like that, I wasn't fully ready. When was this again? Um ten days ago. Ten days ago. I don't remember exactly, but yeah, no, it it happened, and I was actually able to relatively be okay after a few days. I it like it wouldn't wasn't actual bruised ribs because if I had bruised ribs, that takes like four weeks to heal. But I fell out of my bed. No way, and when I fell out of my bed, I fell onto my side. Oh so my arm was on uh was right on one side, so I fell on my arm. So obviously, all the ribs right there at the bottom all hurt because what's there? That's my elbow. So I basically elbowed myself in the ribs, and then that side of my thigh hurt because I landed on the floor, and I think I I hope I didn't land on the dog, but I think I landed on my shoulders. I think you should get some pads around your bed, man. But um, I've had them before. It's just I don't fall very often, and when it comes down to it, this I think was more of a I because I also had a weird situation where I twisted my knee and I didn't try to, I wasn't getting up. What's that? So I think what happened is is I it happened and I got all twisted up in blankets and everything, and then when I was trying to get undone, I that's when I twisted my knee and trying to get out of it and everything, I fell out of bed. Yeah, it just really beats me up. But that's scary, man. Anyway, you were talking about you know things being crazy and all that. Not too long ago, we talked about looks maxing, which Man, that's a that's a thing, huh? You bring it up again. Well, but okay, so we talked about that and that had its own thing, and then the non-maxing and stuff like that. And names for everything now. Well, who comes with these names, first off? I don't know, but when it comes to it, you're a hundred percent right on two things. It's always gonna be something maxing trend. Max. What does maxing mean, man? It's like the ultimate max. Yeah, it's taking it to this next one to the level of this next one. I I saw something about it and I looked up so much stuff, and I was like, dude, there's no fucking way people are doing this because this is crazy. Be a clown today. No, no, no. This new one, and I guarantee you it there's gonna be a little pause because he's gonna pick up his phone to Google it, but it's called balls maxing. Balls maxing, where you inject a fluid into the scrotal sack to make your balls larger, up to the size of like a mango or grapefruit or something like that.
SPEAKER_03And it's done because because men are being told, men are being told that it's not only attractive, but it makes them more masculine. And I'm not kidding about this. This is a hundred percent true.
SPEAKER_01Hey, wait what you got going on today, bro?
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_02So the thing that's really crazy though. I gotta go get maxed. Is no, no, no. Oh okay. So there, you know, there's the BDSM community that claims part of it and everything. So there's a whole bunch of things that can go into it. It is crazy. But now think about this. Who was the first person that's gonna hurt and ruin your life that took a liter? I'm not talking like a shot glass, a liter of saline and decided to get it injected into their uh sack. What what what is it what does it do? It it just makes it grow, get super large. Some of them try to get to the side of the size of a cantaloupe.
SPEAKER_01But so grows okay, dude. Hold on. That's kind of weird. So you put it inside your you're putting fluid inside a place that has fluid anyways, but you're adding more fluid to it. That's not supposed to be there. Just stretch it out, yeah. Just stretch it out, you're gonna ruin it.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's what a lot of doctors are saying is you can cause a lot of damage. But the most okay, so this is I guess when I looked it up, this is the most common way is a butterfly needle.
SPEAKER_03So just like they would put on like the back of your hand, and then um and then they do it right on your sack, and then they do the same injection, and then they do a liter of saline. Make them like Hulk. Yeah, my name is Hulk.
SPEAKER_04Look how I walk, I can't walk straight. Right. That wouldn't be practic, like that does not make life easier. But they're gonna walk straight.
SPEAKER_01Look at me, you want this standing there with some like super tight shorts. Come on, bro.
SPEAKER_04Well, like I said, this is like what people are into. This okay, so like you were just talking about like the crazy stuff that people are doing, and they are literally doing stuff like this. Can I go to the pool? Well, I guess we know, bro.
SPEAKER_02Well, once once it's done, if I remember correctly, the liquid gets absorbed in like 24 to 48 hours. Gotta look good for that pool party.
SPEAKER_04So you get about 36 hours and then it's gone. That's called Max.
SPEAKER_03Got it. So when you talk about, like, oh, you know, how bad things are getting and where are we really going, that's where we're going. Lord. Okay, and then they turn around and they talk about all these, you know.
SPEAKER_01Is that is that worldwide or is that just America, bro? I'm just curious, man.
SPEAKER_02That I'm not sure because I wasn't looking at where things were like distinctively. I think it's worldwide because one of the people that they had talked to was like in Europe or something like that. So I th I think it's worldwide. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. That's crazy. They came with that idea, man.
SPEAKER_02That's um think about the first person though that decided to do that and then hook up a liter's worth of saline to drip into their seafood, dog.
SPEAKER_01Like what it works! Look at this, she loves me now. Like, that is the most if you're doing it for that reason, that's the wrong reason.
SPEAKER_02The reasons that it's being done is because up to you. I don't know that's there's they're saying that it's uh to make them more masculine. Man and uh more attractive more masculine, more attractive.
SPEAKER_01So you that didn't start from the beginning of the relationship when she first I guess not. I mean then it don't even matter, then it doesn't even matter. Like if if she didn't find you attractive at the beginning of the relationship, well then that's all gonna that's not gonna matter.
SPEAKER_02Even though this has been going on for a while, you know who I think is secretly pushing this trend? Who? Women. Why? So they don't get ruin themselves. No, no, no, so they can get their uh revenge or whatever, get their vengeance for all the times when they were supposed to have big boobs and whatever, and have these massive tits that were unrealistic a lot of times or whatever for different shows, TV, commercials, all sorts of shit. I think honestly, I think that's who's pa who's like pushing it more. But I don't think so.
SPEAKER_01I think I don't think so. God, you you're stupid to do that to yourself. It's population control. Imagine if all the men start doing it, and then all of a sudden they're they're sleeping wrongs with their system and they can't have kids. Well, that's one of the problems that it'll cause. Therefore, look look what you just did. You just ruined a certain uh population amount. Population control.
SPEAKER_03Good for the people, though.
SPEAKER_01We don't need more of those. We don't need nothing, y'all. We go somewhere else with that idea and doing that, y'all tell me. That's wrong with you, man. No, that's not okay, though. I feel for the men. I mean, you know, when people do certain things themselves, Mel Man, honestly, you gotta really see the root. What's the root cause of that, man?
SPEAKER_02Well, it's they need to have insecurity or something. Yeah, it's insecurities. You know, they need to be confident in who they are and stuff like that. Some of the stuff that they come up with, like I said.
SPEAKER_01You need to join the Marines, boy. I said, Hey, you want to be confident, you want to be sure who you are. Don't don't worry about college.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you want to be okay. Yeah, but when it comes down to it, so okay. When we were looking at the looks maxing and stuff like that, there's parts of that uh that aren't deemed, I guess, really healthy because you're then doing plastic surgery. Eating healthy and doing hexer exercise, that's you're totally fine. There's no problems with that. Yeah, that's what it should be. When you turn into stuff like balls maxing or whatever, no, no, you've crossed the line into doing stuff that or adding muscle to your body.
SPEAKER_01They've been doing that. People have surgically been adding muscle to body parts where that's not where muscles belong. Yeah, I saw a thing about that too. It's not good for your skeletal system. You're not supposed to do things like that. This is world, this world is going crazy, like mutation, like movies that I would see when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s, weird science, you know, alien type movies. And people are literally that's literally happening right now as we speak. It's weird.
SPEAKER_02You know what? See, and everyone's concerned about UFOs and aliens landing here. No, no, aliens are gonna be like, what the fuck are you doing here? No, later. Hey, we're we're we'll hit you up. Uh we're gonna go to the next planet. We'll catch you in the in about five million years and see if you guys have like unfucked yourself. No, but we're gonna hit the next galaxy over. So it's like seriously, they uh they're not gonna come here when we do shit like that to ourselves ourselves. Not we're not having that done from other people. People are doing that to themselves.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I mean, they're gonna they're gonna look at us and they're gonna be like, dude, we cannot know who cares if they if they do or not. What matters is what God says, dude. And you know, God's not gonna let his creation go out for too far and to be like, well, never mind about you guys. I'll start over again. No. There's there's solutions to the problem.
SPEAKER_02It's just well, it's getting to the point where people are making it to where they're solving that problem themselves. Yeah, they can't do that though.
SPEAKER_01That's the thing. That's the that's the terms and conditions with with with serving God is you know the Lord Jesus Christ. Like truly, as a Christian, that's the whole uh terms and conditions, man, are the you must surrender. So you can do you know, you pray for all this stuff. You may get it, you may not. You're gonna go some ups and downs no matter what. But hey, let me tell you something, it's gonna be great on the other side. But there's some terms and conditions, though. I said, What were those? Well, you you gotta you know surrender. You know that's that's a battle. I believe if everybody kind of surrendered to themselves and said, you know what, you're right, and and they would just peace, right? Like things would be so much better. Oh my goodness, this world. The love that we would have with each other, you know, money that that we have so much money that they can spread it to everyone where they don't need to be robbing and stealing and killing. Right? You have enough. Right? That's not only think about it, Cameron. I mean, think about it. Think about it. If if if you had money like that throughout the whole world, and that's what all everybody wants, and that's why they're stealing and killing, then you're like, here, you got money now, pockets full. What do you what are you gonna do? Are you gonna still do that? And if you do, then that tells me you're deranged and you need to be locked up. True. If you don't, cool. That tells me then, oh, that's all you needed.
SPEAKER_02That's that's the one thing. Okay, interesting. See, that's the one thing from like the Star Trek universe or whatever that I I really, really would love if we could have the matter synthesis thing where you just press a button and you say what you need and it creates it for you. That's crazy, you know? So if you you need crazy power or whatever, like whatever it is, it's only food, right? Huh?
SPEAKER_01I mean, you can create food, right? Not a not a vehicle. I need a new taser. I don't X29,000.
SPEAKER_02I don't know if you I didn't watch Star Trek that much to know those details. I need it now. I know you can make you can ask for plants, you can ask for clothes.
SPEAKER_01Give me the best just on earth.
SPEAKER_02Basically, anything that you need, it'll be so I don't know what to tell you. That's if that's it.
SPEAKER_01I need the fruit, I need the healing plants.
SPEAKER_02Alright, for so, okay, so for an example, okay. I like this show called The Orville, and in it, there's this character named a and there's this uh character named Bordis, okay? And they rediscover cigarettes, and he takes it to his mate and is telling him about it and everything, and they're like, Oh, it's so good, and then his mate turns around and eats it. And he's like, What are you doing? You can't do that. So then he turns around, he goes to the synthesizer to make more, and he just presses it, and he's like, 500 cigarettes, and all of a sudden, 500 cigarettes, boom, are right there.
SPEAKER_01Well, how do they cigar how do they know how to make without material to make it? It the I don't know how the material for the how it makes it works. I just know that is it because it was in his body, then he's like, Oh, it's in my body now, so now it'll it's weird, bro. Does that make sense to you? It would make sense if it was like, oh, stop chewing. Okay, let me see. Take it out. And then synthesize that. And then you made a cigarette. And why and by by the way, by the way, why did they have to make it a cigarette?
SPEAKER_02Well, because in that particular episode, they opened up a time capsule from 2015. Ridiculous, bro. Somebody put a cigarette in or a pack of cigarettes in there. See that? They it's propaganda, brother. Well, it's the thing that's just funny is if you think about it, if you were to take that same concept and go, okay, 400 years into the future, yeah, based on health and everything like that, they're probably not gonna know what the fuck a cigarette is because they're gonna be like, so we don't need cigarettes, they're gonna be red. They're gonna look at us and they're gonna be like, so when okay, so think about it. Think about how they're gonna react to the things that are going on now when in the future they're they get rid of cancer, when they find a cure for cancer. Yeah, well, then they're not gonna need to uh smoke. Well, by then people won't smoke because they'll realize how terrible it is for you. I hope it's sooner. Well, I can't I'm not saying it's gonna be sooner or later. I'm saying eventually that'll happen. And then when you think about it, when you look into the future, um the I don't know, whether you'd want to say aliens or us ourselves or whatever, they're gonna be like, so you took this thing and you lit it on fire and you inhaled the smoke.
SPEAKER_01I don't believe that. I believe that it's still gonna exist, it's gonna have to be hidden though. It's gonna be illegal. Okay, so like black market cigarettes. And then then there's gonna be, I think, I don't know what they're gonna do in marijuana. Maybe it's gonna be outsourced and not gonna be anymore, so they're gonna lab make that, you know, somehow, some way. Or what she said, they're going to make it out of whatever.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I don't like I said, I don't know what a matter synthesizer makes things out of.
SPEAKER_01But it was a matter synthesizer. So matter synthesizer. What is it? Synthesizer. Synthesizer. Why can I say? Synthesizer. Matter synthesizer. There we go. I could say it. Anyhow, man, I think if they were to grab something and throw that in there, so there we go. Matter synthesized.
SPEAKER_02That's just stuff from you know, sci-fi and yeah, but I think things in the movie are they are deeper connotation, brother.
SPEAKER_01I believe that they point to things that are happening today. Where else do they get the ideas from, bro?
SPEAKER_02Well, the original idea in it from Star Trek goes from how they create their future. They um get rid of money and all those things, and then every you know, not everyone, but they create these synthesizers, so then whatever anyone needs is made for them. It's so nobody gotta do this in return. Well, so everybody does something to better society, but everybody's needs are always met, no matter what. There's no longer the that phrase of, oh, there isn't enough to go around. You know what I mean? Everybody gets exactly what they need, and then everybody helps. Still drama though, isn't there?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I'm sure there probably still is. Reason being because it's a person, human being thing. We're always gonna find something, dude.
SPEAKER_02Well, dude, 400 years from now, I'm sure there's still gonna be in-laws, so I'm still there's gonna be a lot of drama out there still. But it's okay, though. It's alright. There's just gonna be, you know, drama's gonna go, you know, long, far, far distances.
unknownFar, far away.
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, 400 years or whatever, when it gets to the point of when somebody gets pissed off and they leave their spouse and they move to the moon. Moon drive. I mean, that's that's a totally different thing. But when it comes down to it, I think we definitely gotta move on to some other stuff that we're working on this week. What do you think?
SPEAKER_01I believe so. Our time is running near, and we've been dragging it out because we like to talk. Talking is therapeutic. It really is. Some things, some forces try to stop me from coming here to talk so I can feel better. Um you feel important when you're in a studio. And you feel important when you have people knowing what they're doing and editing and doing these things. And then when the attention's on us per se, or one of us solo, you know, individually, it doesn't matter. Like, it's a great feeling, man. Feelings of importance, and also feels like, man, this has been on my chest or my mind.
SPEAKER_02Well, you no longer have to just let it be, you know, a ping-pong ball inside your head. You actually can let it out and it's you say it or whatever, and then you know, you can move on to your other ideas that you have.
SPEAKER_01I wish the VA would really, really still consider. And and and I hope and pray that, you know, it's a great idea. It doesn't cost much.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I I'd really like if they would if they would do the project podcast, you know. Well, we gotta keep that lifted up, and whatever's meant to be will be. Yep, and there's that, and still have the game show that we're working on that we're on the um this should be guinea pigs.
SPEAKER_01We should it should be like, hey, we're gonna invite those therapists. We're gonna make the area like we're doing a podcast, we're gonna talk about some things. Here's in NDA, you don't have to say certain things or you won't say certain things, but you know, let's go ahead and get into it.
SPEAKER_02Well, when it comes down to it, if the VA is do will do the podcast program, then yeah, then I'll imagine doing part podcast, and then the other part was a video, it's a game.
SPEAKER_01So the full hour. So say we're doing 15 minutes podcast, you know, back and forth, bouncing things, talking, open up icebreaking stuff, maybe 20 minutes. The other remainder could be playing the game.
SPEAKER_02You know, however.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Just depends on how we make it. It's just on that, we're to the point where we're gonna where I'm um getting ready to make the first prototype for it. Um, and then when it comes down to it, there's projects for um people that I'm working on to try and get started. And will it happen? Won't I I don't really know. It's gonna depend on if they agree to it or not. You know, if people if they don't agree to it, then it'll be something that'll be, you know, put on the shelf and we'll wait till we have somebody that would agree to something. They don't agree. But we'll get what we can. But when it comes down to it, the one thing that I want to be able to remind everyone about is the blanket donation that we started doing. And for that, again, it's pretty simple. It's uh blanket or ten dollars. You know, and if you want to help out, you know, you talk with you can get in touch with us and talk to us uh about that. You know, um any donations or whatever that you have that you wanna send to us or whatever, um send it to or contact the email bull and j rock. J R O C Nok at gmail.com and then we'll figure out that. And like I said, about um last week and stuff, you know, that was my bad. So I dropped the ball on that one. So I just want to say everyone, sorry, that was that was me. I'll I'll do my best not to screw that one up that though again. You better not, man.
SPEAKER_01I don't care if you have seizures or not, bro. You better you better get it done.
SPEAKER_02Uh well, I mean, you know, I have my problems and everything like that, but everybody has issues. So I, you know, I do my best to break that person's car that you just heard go by right now. Got issues.
SPEAKER_01They need to fix their muffler.
SPEAKER_02But I just, you know, everybody's got issues and everything, so I'll work through it the best I can, but you know, just want everyone to know that we're not quitting or anything like that. We're still going. Just had an accident, so not even like it's called grace.
SPEAKER_01It's grace. I'm just grateful that we can be here and people still listen and still listen.
SPEAKER_02Right?
SPEAKER_01If you know it's good for you.
SPEAKER_02If you know, yeah, and same thing if you want to help or you want to be part of um the podcast or something like that, or do an interview or anything like that. Again, same email, uh bull and j rock uh j o c no K at gmail.com. And then uh same thing with um any input you have, you know. If you want to be mean, go for it. We can take it. Being in the military, you've had people scream at you for days without even being able to answer back.
SPEAKER_01Well, even veterans, I like how you want to say some things too. Veterans can be some cold brothers too, though, man. They could be saying some cool words to others. I have a friend, for instance, I work with. Good marine, good lad. He's into making knives, man. He has some cool looking knives, man. Really nice too. He makes some this one, his this part that he was doing, just checking it out, trying it out. But he was making mine out of uh railroad spikes. So get railroad spikes. Bikes and just hook them up. And I was like, dude, the grip is cool, heavy, one piece, you know. And it's kind of cool. You can like lay it sit somewhere. And I'm like, I like this, man. And so she had some hater friends like, man, why would you want to make it out of bat for it? He said, Man, I'm experimenting. Oh, I like to just try it out, man. And I think it's kind of cool. I said, Man, it's a great idea. Right? And, you know, keep going with it, man, because it's gonna, it's gonna blow up, and I think it's gonna do great. I'm gonna we get more blades from you, man, as time goes on, most definitely. But um, grateful for that, man.
SPEAKER_02All these things, they start small, and then it takes all the work to build it up before it can really, you know, walk on its own, so to speak.
SPEAKER_01I think what he's gonna call it is gonna be like his business. I think it's gonna be uh Fidelis Forge. Forge by Fidelis or something, or Fidelis Forge. I think something like that, which can be cool. He's in the Marine that I work with. But man, I I'm I'm grateful that people have the idea, like especially veterans. Sometimes it takes us time, you know, to get there. But man, we got some ideas and we can just run with it. And sometimes we just need support. And we're talking about that with the the blankets. But yeah.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's why if we can get the VA to pick up on the podcasting one that I put out for it, that'd be great. Then that well, that would be huge because think about all the veterans' um uh different hobbies and likes and interests and everything and how creative and how creative they could be with it. And oh man.
SPEAKER_01I mean, you'd have a whole bunch of different stuff, yeah. Imagine green screens and things we can do. We're talking. I would love to have that band where we have talk about our subjects and the things that we're we're discussing, both on the bread of life and what it's like. And we're talking, and the green screen kind of plays what we are discussing, or even parts of my sermon, to make it come alive so people can watch it and be like, whoa, you know, something artistic to get like a better understanding. Yeah, oh man, I was watching Marcus Rogers, bro, and shout out to him. Man, I saw his stuff my kids love watching, Keenan Academy, that he does. Bro, AI stuff, whatever it is, don't matter. His is so creative, bro. You have to check it out. It's pretty cool, pretty cool how you did. I said, Man, I would love to have a we do a podcast like that because it goes to how they're talking normally, then all of a sudden turns into this AI character, you know, and then able to do all this different stuff in different parts.
SPEAKER_02It's pretty cool. Well, I mean, hopefully, once we get uh video and stuff like that, then you know ideas that we have come out. Yeah, we'll have lots of different things that really come from that.
SPEAKER_01Wouldn't you think that'd be cool? Make we can do AI stuff where it puts us back into the military again as we're giving a story, and we're seeing our visual. And now I just got the visual.
SPEAKER_02Now I just got this visual of uh J-Rock over here putting us into some AI module of being like in the military and it coming out like an eight-bit video game. I think it'd be kind of cool. It would.
SPEAKER_01It'd be awesome. And we're like, this is my life and my brain. Let's get it. He's like, man, and then and then Bull's like, man, I just joined the army.
SPEAKER_02Well, when it comes to the when it comes to the Marines, you heard that um uh Joey Jones was in the Marines. He was a bomb tech, he lost both of his legs, but he just re-enlisted.
SPEAKER_0120 years later.
unknownCrazy.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, did you hear that though? He just re-enlisted in the Marines. No, 20 years later. Isn't that crazy? That's high speed. I mean, that that when it comes down to it, that's how you know that you're committed to the cause.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, once a Marine, always a Marine brother.
SPEAKER_02Well, well, that's exactly what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01Like he gave his legs. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's like, man, I'm gonna get my legs back 20 years later. We're gonna get it, Marine. Let's go.
SPEAKER_04That probably would be the most pissed off person you'd want to meet because he'd have a grudge.
SPEAKER_01I remember your granddaddy's granddaddy. Did this to my leg.
SPEAKER_02Oh, but on that note, I think we're gonna let things go because we got other stuff to work on. So it was nice to talk to you guys this week. And if please, I mean, ball maxing is your own thing if you want to.
SPEAKER_03I would say please don't. But just be careful, don't be too dangerous.
SPEAKER_02And you know, I want to say take care of each other, but this week I want to say take care of yourself.
SPEAKER_01Well, you know, in all real reality, like love yourself. You know, yeah, God created you a certain way for a certain purpose. You want more things, you pray about it. God direct you, give your surrender like to that, you know, if you're really looking for something like that. Because that's that's telling me people are looking for some type of leadership or something in life. They don't have it. No one gave them good common sense to say, don't do that to yourself. Even with women, I know some regret that. You're gonna be beautiful for a moment. You will get old one day. Please have a regimen of exercise and working out and eating healthy because you will stay fit, but you're still gonna get older. It's a part of life until you get to heaven. Everyone, everyone, everyone wants that eternal beauty and look at me. I'm so awesome. Well, yeah, stop it though. Love yourself, love yourself.
SPEAKER_02Very true. Well, and with that, I hope everyone had a great memorial day weekend.