What it’s like…. With Bull & J-Roc
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SPEAKER_01Yes, we well okay. It's it's one of those things that's very difficult to deal with. Okay. So what's that? Uh um let me get there. But when it comes down to it, we have regular everyday lives. Like, you know, we're not millionaires, and this is like our only gig. No, yeah. You know, so we have other stuff that we have to deal with, and sometimes we get really busy. And just like in, you know, normal everyday stuff, whenever you're doing your own stuff, you know, you'll get really busy and then you just run out of time for other stuff. And something like this, you know, we just we've haven't had a lot of time lately and things like that, but um it hasn't because, you know, it hasn't been because we've stopped or we haven't thought about it or don't talk about it or things like that. It's just getting everyone together to do it. You know, and I have stuff that I do and you have stuff that you do. You have kids, I don't. You know.
SPEAKER_00Well, we're here now, and if we offended anyone for that reason, I don't know. I'm not apologizing. Yeah, I wouldn't either. This is life, this is life. We're not really being mean or rude in any way, but this is life. Um, I love talking with everyone, I love being on this podcast, I love things that we share. But then again, priorities. Priorities of work. Military always taught me that. Podcast is definitely a priority of mine, and I want and I need to put some money and funds aside for that reason too. But I enjoy coming over to the studio and um handling, and it's a great, great time and moment. But those that are listening, I I do thank you for continuing to hold on. And and we have other content you can listen to as well. So if we haven't been sending new things within a week or two, don't don't be discouraged because there's other content we have that you can listen to, and just be patient. You know, we'll get there because there's things that we all need to talk about and deal with, and I know people are doing that as well that are listening. So we got you. So no worries. Thank you for still tuning in. We'll always come back to have fun.
SPEAKER_01So stop your complaining and talk about really weird shit. But I mean, that's our daily lives, our hardships, you know. Yeah, we have to deal with that. Something that I wouldn't necessarily say that we have to deal with, but we're being forced to, is a lot of these idiots that think socialism is going to be a good idea. And they're gonna just do they're gonna fuck everything up.
SPEAKER_00Well, I don't know who really is in office anymore. I don't understand who's making the the decisions to, you know, hire people to make decisions for our country. They vote people in, I have no idea who and why, and they just take over. And I don't it's almost like you have nothing, you can't do anything about it, you know, and it's kinda your hands behind your back, you know. This is how things are gonna be. Kind of accepted it. But uh, you know, the same token, we have hope. It's our great country, I love America. This is all I know, obviously. I mean, I know about other places, but America, you know, as a whole, this is where I'm from, this is my country uh I'm willing to serve, and which I did and die for, willing to, right? Like I don't know what's going on here. But uh what I do know is if it if it's biblical, it's not if, but it is biblical, well, these are the things to be. And uh we let our guard down a little bit, but I know one day a revival will take place, right? Where things will change, man. But if you could explain your view on these different types of isms. Different types of isms, yeah, right?
SPEAKER_01That's how that works. Well, from what I gather, and keeping in mind I'm not, you know, super uh college professor or anything like that. So when it comes down to it, uh Marxum Marxism, sorry, is a social, political, and economic philosophy, okay. And it's that there won't be it, like ultimately will there'll be a classless structure. So there won't be a middle class and upper class and lower lower class, whatever there won't be any of that. Everybody will be one class, there's just one class, okay. But the problem with that is you can't have just one class. There has to be, you know, like you're always gonna have politicians and you're always gonna have that ruling class, you know, it's never gonna go away. So you always have to have that little bit, okay? So that's one. Two, how are you gonna expect everybody to turn around and go, hey, I want you to take your money and share it with everybody, and people that are billionaires are gonna have to share it with people that are crackheads and shit like that, you know? So it's how do how do you expect this to work? You know, how just how do you expect to go from point A to point B? Because you can't make laws for it, because the laws that say, oh, share, and this has to be done this way, or like with socialism, and it's you know, taking property and stuff like that, and you know, it's not your property, it's the government's property, and so you can no longer own a home. The government will own your home, but you can't own it, but you'd still have to pay for it because everybody has to pay their way. I mean, that's kind of how it is, anyways. Okay, yes, we all have to pay taxes, but when it comes down to like your owner when it comes down to ownership, though, if you want to own a house, you can. Well, you want to be an entrepreneur and have your own business, you can.
SPEAKER_00What I feel is this that the reason why I'm saying that is because, you know, I have a home, and I by God's grace, thank you. I use VA, the VA loan, but it's still a loan, and it shouldn't have to be. It's a VA, like we served our country.
SPEAKER_01But when it comes down to it, that's totally different than someone turning around telling you, okay, you can only have a house this size and this many rooms. Well, that's regardless of how many children you have. That's communism. You know, and well that that's where social socialism eventually leads to that. Because socialism is about everybody sharing money. Control. Well, they want to tax the riches, you know, which is fine. You know, sharing is good. You know, that's never a bad thing. Sharing everybody's money and nobody being allowed to own stuff so that it's all shared doesn't work.
SPEAKER_00Do you think that they should tax the rich though? Like the wealthy, the billionaires?
SPEAKER_01Well, okay, tax the rich, but what are okay? So when they always say that, they always say tax the rich, tax the tax the rich. Okay. Yeah. They have billions of dollars. Because you have to keep in mind that the tax code, the way it's set up, there are loopholes that we've created over time.
SPEAKER_00So they need to tax mean that wait that they need to tax the rich and they need to spread the wealth. That money that they're taxing needs to go into funds such as, you know, uh healthcare or funds for families that need money or food, freely given that way every month. They have money that goes there for that reason, not the other way around, not to things that don't matter or someone else's pocket. That's not okay. And that's how that's my view.
SPEAKER_01Okay, but when it comes down to actually making that happen, how are you gonna do it?
SPEAKER_00Well, that's the point. There's wickedness and corruption in places that you well, corruption that corruption is a whole nother thing.
SPEAKER_01Corruption, I mean, regardless of what type of government you have, capitalism, anything, you're gonna have corruption somewhere. And so you're gonna have people that are.
SPEAKER_00Communism is really a different corruption, though. Yeah, they're that's a control measure of corruption.
SPEAKER_01I get what I want, and you get what I tell you you can.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and if you don't do what I say, then you're not gonna have anything. Yeah, that's not okay.
SPEAKER_01That yeah, that's bad. That's bad. That's like what we were fighting against in like Vietnam and you know, all of our wars and everything like that. That's the type of shit that we were fighting against, you know, people to have so people would be free and to be able to do the things that they wanted when they wanted and make those their choices, and make a country also a better place, man.
SPEAKER_00Like have have genuine, you know, economic flow and resources that are enough for everyone, and for everyone to be what they feel God has called them to be, freedom. That is important to keep and protect. And I believe that is how things should be. And when it comes to the money thing, regardless of what anybody wants to call this, I feel that the tax bracket and the way that they tax needs to be changed. They need to really reconsider the money that they're taxing on people and all those people that are letting companies write tax write-offs on them with them, that's wrong. That are trillion-dollar companies, that's wrong. They need to close the loopholes. That's what I mean. Those types of loopholes, that's not okay. They have money, people have money to spend two times a lifetime and more. They don't need all that. And so, my point being is that please, those that are listening, if you are and in in wavelengths, I don't care where you're at, where you're at one day, hey, listen, billionaires, please don't be greedy. You're not gonna take that money with you when you leave this earth. Never seen a man leave with anything on this earth.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, billionaire, I mean, yes.
SPEAKER_00It's ridiculous. There's people that need help, help people on the earth, and especially America.
SPEAKER_01There are some billionaires that give back a lot. Not a lot, and there are some some billionaires that don't give back at all. That's my point. You know, and yes, I think that if you wanted to look at it as in a tax in a sense of they have to give a certain percentage that goes towards like you were saying, Wick and uh things like that. I mean, I guess you could approach that in uh in a particular it should be that way, man.
SPEAKER_00Listen, there's people that need there's no reason why people in America should be starving.
SPEAKER_01That's true.
SPEAKER_00So they that's that's it's sickening, dude. Like I'm like, you people have money. You need to, you will be judged. I I and I man, grow up, wake up, because I'm telling you, I'm not being a hater because I know that was it's I know it's difficult being someone who is highly, you know, high net worth, and you got to be concerned about attacks and kidnaps and and all this craziness. And sometimes you think that blessing is not, it is, but it's sometimes it's a curse. I got it. But you've been given a responsibility and a blessing. And that blessing and responsibility needs to be steward through the hands of people that need it. Because we have like blanket donations. Thank God. But man, like how about people that have all this money just start doing that anyways, everywhere?
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SPEAKER_00Buying things for people and giving, making sure they get passed out at their organizations. Where is that? What about the food? There should be, you know, there should not be an issue. Things don't cost much.
SPEAKER_01I think what a lot of it comes from is I think a lot of these wicked, bro. A lot of them are wicked, right? Well, no, no. I think a lot of what this what's going on now is you have a lot of people that went to college, and then when they got out of college, they were told, oh, you're gonna be able to get a hundred thousand dollar a year job right out of college, and that didn't happen. And now they're just pissed off at all the rich people and say, Oh, well, it's the rich people's fault that it's like this. When it's actually not a rich person's fault that you decided to do gender studies or some stupid shit that you weren't gonna be able to get a job with and didn't do something that was real that had real world applications.
SPEAKER_00Well, I understand people listen, they okay, that's that's somebody's choice, right? They they chose what to do in school. They that's them. They went to school though, but they chose to make that decision. Got it. You give people have to be owners, they have to own their stuff and have accountability. The same token though, what I'm I'm saying is that there's some people that can just afford to do certain things, and that's good for them, but there's also a moment where you think, man, you know, you should probably think about giving bit more to rid of your getting rid of your finances, man. Like that, like spreading it out, you know, like but that's their personal thing, that's their choice. You can't make people like do things that they want to do, but you can't make them, you know, like I'm a billionaire, I earn this, you know, I can't, I'm not gonna share this with anybody. Well, that's your choice, man. Can't make anybody do anything, man. You know, but but I get the government can though, huh? And the government can say, hey, listen, you're gonna go ahead and you got a billion, I need you to give, yeah, 300 million away.
SPEAKER_01Well, but see the thing that makes it difficult though, too, is if, okay, so look at a situation of somebody that invents something. I'm not using any particular name, but whether it was a hundred years ago or a hundred days ago, how how would you look at that person getting money for that? Because some of those things, I mean, if you look at it, I mean, it's used for everything all the time. I mean, think about the person that uh learned how to figure it out how to make plastic and everything like that. Look at everything that there's plastic. That's just horrible, you know, by the way. But I I agree, but the person that m learned how to do that the first time, dude, they their product that they learned how to make it. Thank you, but no thank you.
SPEAKER_00You know?
SPEAKER_01Well, but I'm just saying, how would how would you look at something like that later on? Because a lot of those people turn around and they just sell their patent to a company for a certain amount of money, you know, and then the company goes and makes money off of it because they do it so much.
SPEAKER_00I'm just saying they need to be taxed, bro. That's all I'm saying. They make enough money. There, that's instead of paying other countries and other agendas, that's focus on people. We've been saying this for years, man. Let's focus on people at home. Because there's programs you can put people in. There's things you can do to make things better. There can be less crime and poverty on the streets. Like there can be people not eating, be starving. You know, like there could be more kitchens open for people to eat, and more places for them to take showers, and more areas for for things to be a little better for mental health. Like, there's ways of doing it, you have to get funded, and they have the money to do it. They just choose not to. They put it in other resources that are not even do we okay. Are we benefiting anything from this war right now? Are we bidding for anything? Uh is the oil prices going down for gas? Are we getting any money that they promised us that they're gonna give us money to the Americans because of the crisis and all the inflation stuff, possibly? And oh yeah, and all tariffs, the tariffs, I'm gonna give you money to help subsidize that. Nothing, bro. And I'm sitting here like, what is up, man? So I feel like the American people are being squeezed out a little bit more than they should.
SPEAKER_01You wanted what is it you wanted to happen from the war?
SPEAKER_00Oh, from the war? Let's see. Well, if we're going to the war, then you need to go ahead and pay us. And in fact, instead of taxing us, tax other people and don't let our tax money go and buy ammo and equipment for other countries. Don't need that. Let them have their own supply and use it up. But don't we use a barcode?
SPEAKER_01We didn't go there for the purpose of the city.
SPEAKER_00We gave them money to look at Ukraine and look at look at Gaza and look at Ukraine, brother. Those are two areas that we have spent billions of dollars.
SPEAKER_01That's that those okay, those situations though you gotta take up with the politicians. They vote on that crap all the time. That's my point.
SPEAKER_00That's why our taxpaying dollars go there.
SPEAKER_01Well, so like I said, that's totally that's different. That's not even just I mean, yes, there have been times when, you know, whether it be you know Trump, Biden, whoever have said, Oh, I'm putting together this package of however many dollars of you know, weapons aid for this country or whatever, but it still has to go through Congress. So they still have to vote on it. So that problem is the fact that the people that are our leaders that are representing us are not voting in our favor.
SPEAKER_00And not exactly, and they're also allowing Muslims to come into our country. And I'm not talking about peaceful Muslims because even though you're peaceful Muslims, bro, you're still going to respect the jihad, you're still going to respect the uh the the Islamic movement. Like you still will be like, I'm peaceable, I would never kill anyone, but you still respect it and you still listen to the Quran. Let me explain something to you. We love peace. I think that the the American people and the the Torah observing Jews, Christians, the Orthodox Christians, right? The um even Muslims, hey, listen, Jesus loves everyone, right? Like, but change your viewpoints and thought processes and understand what Christianity is about. Come together and come against those that you should. Unity it provides better, like the Bible says, like three chords are unbreakable. They're strand three, three cords put together, three things you cannot break it. You know, like a braid, a braid. You can't, it's hard to break a braid, man. Unity is important. All this stuff that's going on, you're talking about people in the Muslim ride. Oh my goodness gracious.
SPEAKER_01Okay, well, it's crazy. Uh the thing that bothers me a lot about when people come here is if you're gonna come here and you wanna be here and you wanna be an American, 100% okay, cool. Assimilate. Exactly. Exactly. That's the key thing you have to do.
SPEAKER_00You're trying to make us assimilate to you in our own country where we're asking you to assimilate.
SPEAKER_01We are the only damn country in the world that we have people come in and then we go, oh, we'll speak your language, we'll do what you want, we'll practice your religion. We're the only country in the world that does that. Every other country in the world, when you set foot there, you do it their way. Well, UK is not looking that way now. And a lot of our UK is getting kind of screwed up with all their because they had a whole bunch of uh Muslims that were being Well, Europe.
SPEAKER_00So Morocco, Spain, you know, the Moroccan Bank, Spain going down, Europe going down, you know, uh certain parts of Ireland, certain parts of that whole region. And then you got the war in Ukraine and Russia.
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean, some of those places over there, some of those places over there are places where they have sharia courts, bro.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but then Poland is not messing around and they're not tolerating it, and they're small. Look at them though, and mighty.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but what happened with Poland a while ago to where they're like, yeah, we're not playing this game.
SPEAKER_00That's what I'm saying, though. Look what they're at now, though. They're not they're they're still not playing the game, though. They're about it. So my point being is that we as people here have a bigger and stronger voice and always have been, and we have we can't allow these things to continue to happen, man, because they want a war to happen inside America so that martial law will take place. Yep. I I see that. It's like, come on, man, can't you if I don't all the the all the uh foil hat wearing dudes that are listening probably to our radio station conversation or on the phone? I know y'all hear me, three letter agencies. Let me tell you something, man. I know that they watch the I know they watch what's going on outside, I know they watch the the the riots, the parades, the events. They got people in and embedded inside there, gathering information. You guys are allowing this stuff to take place, knowing that, and it's evil. Shame you. Stuff needs to be stopped because people are what you want people to die? Innocent people, families, children, women. That's evil and it's ungodly, and and I can't wait to God come down and strike you that and dismantle all the things that they believe. Because it's not okay.
SPEAKER_01Honestly, because you have a lot of people that that turn around and say, Oh, I care about people that aren't here, whether you're in the UK and they're having trouble with people there because they don't care about the people that actually live there, they only care about all the immigrants, or whether it's the same crap that's happening here. Well, but it's this it's the same thing, they don't care about the people that are actually there.
SPEAKER_00Listen, there's nothing wrong with not there's nothing wrong with not with caring for people. Like they are But you can't totally switch. There, you know, the aliens that you take over though in your own land, right? And the Bible talks about like will eventually end up becoming control of the land and you'll be their boss. I mean they'll be your boss, and you'll be under them. That that we've if we're allowing things to take place, and it should not be. It's okay to feed and clothe someone and to give them something to drink to help them, because that's a human thing to do, the right thing. If you're made in the image of God, you do those kind things, but when it comes To the laws of the land, they would want us if we went to visit their land, they would want us to buy, they want my wife to wear her hijab and cover herself completely. They would make sure that I had to eat the way I needed to eat and give homage, right? I'm letting you know when you come to our country, it's like, oh, it's free now, I can do whatever I want. Oh, and you're gonna do what we tell you. No, you don't come in people's home and backyard and then tell them how to live and what to do. That's not okay. We're all supposed to have peace here. So if you're not maintaining peace with us, you're trying to tell us this is how it's gonna be, well, then there's a problem. Because you're not gonna do that to us, especially veterans.
SPEAKER_01Well, when it comes down to it, we were also not started under the fundamentals of a la and doesn't matter what it is. Well, I mean, people have to keep in mind, yes, we are generous as a country and people, and we are nice and we'll do things for other people, but some people have to learn that at one point you take it too you let it go too far. You're you're no longer helping them, you're letting them take advantage of you.
SPEAKER_00Well, this is what I mean. This is kind of like reminding me back in the day when the the British came through and tried to take over America. This is similar. You will abide by the queen, you would do what we ask you to do, or else you'll be killed and you'd be hung, you know, like what?
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean, that is one of the things too. I mean, they are trying to almost start like a civil war here or whatever. And no offense, but you're starting the shit in the wrong country because we've already been through our trials and tribulations, and when it comes down to it, Americans are gonna stand with Americans before anybody else.
SPEAKER_00I really hope that. And that's what the agenda's trying to do to push the black and white thing to hate to hate each other. Yep. We're not man, we come together, man. We are some rooting tootin' cowboys shooting things, man. You don't want to mess around with us. Us veterans and us Marines that Marines, we like to shoot things. Well you don't mess around.
SPEAKER_01But I mean they do, they race bait people against each other. But when when it all comes down to it, it's like you if you were just leave us alone and let us do our thing, not only would we be better off, we wouldn't be fighting with each other, and oh guess what? We wouldn't be dealing with all this other crazy shit that we're now like learning that's been you know festering for the last couple decades that people, you know commented on or said something about, but people were like, nah, that's you know, that's something out of a movie. That's crazy. No, it's happening. You know, just like the whole um uh what were they uh they had that uh birth tourism crap that they were doing recently, you know? That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00I mean you know what, man, listen. Um, I uh this is how I feel, like honestly. My perspective. I am I feel that people deserve to have freedom, and people deserve to be happy, people deserve that in this life as a human being. The toil of man and woman working hard and raising a family and living life time.
SPEAKER_01I also do believe there are some cruel ass freaking people out there that need to be dealt with. And well, this yeah, that's there's no getting away from them. You know, it's if you want to call it the evil of the world or whatever. There's shit out there that we have to deal with, like it or not, you know.
SPEAKER_00So we gotta have the armor up, you gotta know how to fight that battle and how to deal with it. Because I don't want to go to jail because that's the first thing that's gonna happen if you think about fighting a battle. I say, Oh, I'll go to the extreme now. I'm gonna end your life. Now what? Now I'm going to jail. For what? Yeah, I gotta figure out how to have common sense, verbal judo, emotional intelligence. I gotta really learn this game and this is what it is in this life. Especially even as veterans, man, it's a game because we're not you we don't like you're not gonna talk to me this kind of way, or you're not gonna disrespect me, you know, and I understand all that. That machismo bravado, but guess what, man? You can't have that all the time. You gotta learn how to be stealth, swift, and silent. You gotta learn how to kill them with kindness and and do things differently. It's a different game and world out here that we deal with. And there are evil people, correct? But they're evil people everywhere. Yep. You know what? You just gotta we just see it more clearer now, but we shouldn't, you know what, that we sh but we can't judge humanity. We shouldn't at least judge humanity on the fact that there's some individuals that you know need some help. That needs some help. You know, we can't get mad, you know, like we've got to show some grace because people need help, dog.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, people do. One of the things that, you know, kind of like how, and I know you've heard me say it before, you know, of how life is, you know, things are like a pendulum, you know, like a box of chocolate. Okay, Forrest. You never know. But when it comes down to it, America's gone through a lot of shit, and we've never really teetered too far to one side. We always kind of self-correct. Yeah, you know, I believe that we we may get a little too conservative, a little too progressive, a little too whatever, but it, you know, kind of like a clock, you know. We kind of it's like a pendulum and it swings back and forth. So, yeah, it's crazy right now, but it's the way our country is made, we're gonna self-correct and we'll be we'll be okay. This is just gonna be a really bad stain that we have to deal with.
SPEAKER_00We're gonna have to deal with it though, because we we cannot uh we cannot let things uprise in a place where freedom rings. That we cannot like that that's ridiculous. We are free, and yet you want to come over and take that from us because you want your way, your control, keep it in your little village, keep it in your third world place that you love so well, and if you love it so well, how come you're here? Because if if if you if it's so great, then you should go back and really strengthen your country then with your ideology because that will that will help your country, actually, right? So they need people, but they can't do that there because the people there don't want to do it. Oh, they want to go, so you want to go somewhere else. Oh, so do you see do you see the the irony of it? Like it's really interesting, and now you to me, I believe that is called selfishness. You're literally wanting to come over and start some new stuff from old stuff at a new place. You want to you want to start some old stuff in a new place. Well, what's that saying?
SPEAKER_01Socialism's graded until you run out of other people's money.
SPEAKER_00See, so you're just going place to place to place to place. It's ridiculous. I don't understand the even how it was. All that. Listen, I don't even know how it got on a table. Piece of paper, like, sir, can you read that? And the person really took the time to say, that's a great idea, Jim.
SPEAKER_01No, no, no. Let's make it happen. Okay, it's because these DSA people, okay, the democratic socialists of America, which I guarantee you has nothing to do with democracy of any type. No, just they are socialists. Maybe. No, dude, even their agenda doesn't make sense. Freaking, you can look it up on their website, okay? Okay. Well, you're saying though. When it comes down to it, okay, so they wanna um abolish the presidency, they wanna get rid of the electoral college, they want to, I believe it was pack the court, and they wanna get rid of police and jails. How in holy shit are you gonna enforce any of your new grandioso ideas with no police? Who's gonna listen to you? Um, and then, oh yeah, let's go with this one. If these are such great ideas, ideas that you're going for, and that's how it's gonna work, why are you gonna be running for president? You're abolishing it. What do you need to run for? You don't even need to have a candidate, right? Who's this? This is uh DSA, Democratic Socialists of America. It's like that Mam Dani guy and that Abdul Al-Sayid and all this other Abdul Al-Share the the Hassan Piker guy. Hassan I Piker Hug Hassan Piker was the one that said that we deserve 9-11. We deserve 9-11. We deserve the Jews to do what they did. Yes. Okay, well, now when you get into that, that's a whole different situation.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it's called anti-Semitism now?
SPEAKER_01No, no, because when it comes down to uh all the people that are uh having all this anti-Semitic rhetoric and everything like that that's going on, most of those people are getting it from Islamic views. Well, right, whatever. The progressive people in Islamics, their ideals do not match. Okay, you cannot be a trans person of any type or a gay person of any type or whatever in any Islamic world. It's not gonna work. Um, so at one point, all the people that are banding together to be to treat the Jewish people, you know, so bad.
SPEAKER_00You're not supposed to do that first off. I I believe that you shouldn't like I understand that they're doing wrong, and I've talked about them as well. I've talked about how many countries they've been kicked out of. I've talked about, you know, all the things they have tried doing and taking over people's land because they were displaced people. But I also know this that God said he will bring back Israel to him. He they will be scattered, but he'll bring them back and bring them back to their senses. Honestly, they've had issues throughout history, man. All right. Um, and they were captured even through Babylon and they stayed there. And America's considered Babylon, the great Babylon of today. I I I understand the hate. I don't like what's going on in our country. I don't. We've allowed things to happen. But the same token is what hate begets hate? Like what what are we going to solve with hating? Um I mean, we can prepare all day to get ready for something that may pop off, which we should always. But what I'm saying, preserve life, right? But what I'm what I'm saying is, are we supposed to hate all this people? Because then nothing gets resolved and we just kill each other.
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean, that's okay, that's part of the reason why um I always say that peace is a it's a fantasy, it's never gonna happen. For peace to happen, that would mean that no one ever wants to have what somebody else wants. It means jealousy would go away, greed would go. So many of these ideals would have to disappear for there to be world peace. And until that happens, peace is not possible because you're always gonna have a different person, religion, country, race, whatever, that wants to change something based upon what someone else has. At that point, you don't have peace. You always have one trying to one up another so one has control.
SPEAKER_00So that's basically the human race. Yep. And what can resolve that? You mean what will give us that peace? Man, what literally, what can resolve that cop solution and mitigate all the issues that we just talked about the anxiety, the fear, the doubt, the hate, the malice ways, the just evil. What what what's constantly?
SPEAKER_01If I had to save uh, let's see, I would probably guess it would probably be something that would be almost like um apocalyptic in a way. Um, whether it would be the end of mankind, like the ending of the world or something, or um uh like something like a disease comes and is like some of these movies or whatever, and it goes down to like two percent of what the population is now where everybody has to work together or everybody dies, you know. Nuclear possibilities. I mean a nuclear apocalypse would be one of those things.
SPEAKER_00Do you know that China? Do you know that China has a nuclear warhead called a 61? And this nuclear warhead has 60 nuclear heads on one missile. 60 nuclear warheads on one missile. The one is a hydrogen bomb. They are the only country in the world that has a hydrogen bomb.
SPEAKER_01No, we haven't.
SPEAKER_00It's a devastating blow because it can cover the ends of the earth in 20 minutes and nothing can stop it. So if that bomb the two of those were to go off in two different directions in our globe, it would be in a world of hurt. Now they're saying that the w the winds, the radiation, the fallout will push winds, will push east-west and more than anything, and maybe north. But when it comes to the southern hemisphere, it will not. And there's a lot of talk and speculation of people that are elite that are setting up shop during the in the southern equator. You know, uh Central America, Central America, um, South America, all those same things, man. Um because it's gonna be an issue. There's something that they know that we don't know. I've just been informed that we have a Americans have a hydrogen bomb too. Good for us. Way to go. We can cause damage in people's lives. That's so awesome. I can't wait. You know, that's gonna be funny.
SPEAKER_01You know what, dude? I think it was up until the 90s, countries were still testing nuclear weapons. Well, it's ridiculous. You're causing craziness in our lives. So all this they're still test, I mean, for what?
SPEAKER_00No reason, exactly. Uh so they're just man has nothing better else to do that has time on his hand. Let's see what we can get into. Let's see what we can defile. Yes. You know, and I mean so crazy, man.
SPEAKER_01Yes, it is extremely destructive, but there's other things that we have learned from it, so it has been useful in a sense.
SPEAKER_0060, but there's nothing that 60 nuclear warheads, bro, and one missile. 60, not six, not one nuclear warhead, sixty going off at once with a hydrogen bomb mixed with it. What? What what why is why sixty?
SPEAKER_01No, no, it's it's no no no, it's like the it's like the whole Cold War concept because well no no, it's it's like the whole cold cold war concept because they fire something, we fire some, and it just goes back and forth, and then they we destroy each other. Right, that's what they're left. And then there's only the all the little small little Easter Island pipe places and everything where there was no military presence, so it never got bombed, nobody knew, whatever. And those places will be the last remnants on earth, and then we won't have countries anymore. We'll just have humans, and you'll live in certain areas.
SPEAKER_00You know, that's I don't whatever God intends, so be it. I I but I'm not gonna I don't know. If it's gonna be like the the Blue Lagoon, copyright's not you know fringed upon as I'm speaking, please. So the Blue Lagoon, right? That's one movie. Um there's uh what's that other movie? Water meant Water Water World, Water World, you know, again, copyright uninfringed. So all these those things like that's weird, okay? I it just if that happens, man, I pray I have a boat, jet skis, ammo, fuel, food, and weapons, uh, you know, and a place of shelter. But man, I I I taught it's weird how these things that we talk about are really something to think to talk about. Like we years ago, we wouldn't be able to talk like this. Like we wouldn't well, we could, but we wouldn't be thinking like this. Like maybe thinking, but not like as a reality, like it's really happening. Like we would talk about a movie that we saw about what's happening today, right? This would always be stuff that would be in movies, correct, and we're really living it. That's what's weird to me. I feel that makes me really stuck sometimes.
SPEAKER_01You know what makes that really crazy? What think about the sci-fi movies we see now. That means in 25 years that shit could actually be happening.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Exactly. Teleporting.
SPEAKER_01Um I don't I don't pick pick a damn sci-fi movie. Any of them, it doesn't matter, dude. Aliens, what about all that technology? 25 years, 25 years from now.
SPEAKER_00I bet they have those aliens too in some place in the cold, frozen that we've seen in the movies, alien and predator type stuff. I in Antarctica and all those places say we're not allowed to go to, Area 51, all I guarantee, where else would somebody come up with those weird futuristic ideas, man?
SPEAKER_01All right, you want okay. Here's something that is gonna really make you think. How did mankind have maps with Antarctica on it? Oh, yeah, before we had even been there. Correct. That's that's this type of stuff. Egyptian highlight show that too. When you think about it, you're just like, okay, we've never been there. I know, but yeah, wait, we have a map. We've never been there. Like I'm saying, how the hell do we know these things?
SPEAKER_00We know this because the the Nephilim and the ones that were here, the fallen, that had all the knowledge that God gave them, much knowledge, they came down here and started doing stuff. They had that technology, they had those things already. I guarantee even probably building, and we don't think we think, oh, they did it this way. No, I seriously doubt it. I believe that history is not what it seems, and we really need to wake up, people.
SPEAKER_01But see, just like how um we were having a theological discussion earlier, but just like how when Moses came down from the mountain and saw everyone partying and everything like that, and like they were and like they weren't supposed to, and everything, when you think about the whole concept for things and you look at everything that everyone's been doing, but everyone's kind of all been on the same page, that just means that, like you said, all the um Ne Nephilim, yeah, all the Nephilim or whatever have just been running around pretending to be everyone's gods, whether it be the Mayans, the Egyptians, or whatever, you know, bro, Hindu, all that stuff. They're just running around being people, yeah.
SPEAKER_00They're just running around being their gods. That's it. You said you nailed it, and to make other people understand that and believe that or see that for what it is, it's it's heresy, it's blasphemous. How dare you, you know, and here's fighting words of violence, you know, and it's like, whoa, it is it's truth.
SPEAKER_01Because most people don't stop to look at how much different, and I'm not saying I'm atheist, I'm not saying I I hate a certain type of people, I'm not saying that at all, but most people don't stop to look at how much the different religious or theological scrub scriptures, even including mythology, crisscross each other because there's parts of mythology that are actually in the Bible, too.
SPEAKER_00So I mean it's like everything, man. Listen, there are half human, half animal. There are there were. I know there were, I know that there's the Bigfoots and all that stuff people talk about. Those are experiments, those are things aclamites, whatever. Like they uh no, not the uh you have the different tribes, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And God was God said to kill those people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, those people, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's what I mean.
SPEAKER_00That stuff is real, it's real.
SPEAKER_01So that's just those people, they were just playing games. The Canaanites, the Amalekites, the uh but the other thing too is if you notice in every single one of those cultures, aside from what it is now, they all worshipped multiple gods. And that is their still it came to when you know getting Christianity. And they used to attack the Israelis too. Uh solidified.
SPEAKER_00That's how Israelis became really good at combat and hand to hand is because of the attacks they would receive on an ongoing daily basis when they were marching in the wilderness for those times, those years.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's sad, you know, to to feel feel fear and torture, rape, murder, and destruction of a human being from demons. That's what they are. Because if you look at it, we all have we're it we're think about this we're all made in this image. Meaning it's not just our Physical being, right? That's here temporarily. And it's a beautiful, intricate body we have, but also the thing, the thinking process in our attitudes and emotions. And when you think about that, man, to want to see harm happen to a person, I don't care who they are, even a stranger. My heart, when I see that for a child or anyone, I feel compassion. I don't like that, you know, or even an animal. I'm like, oh, that's sad, you know. Like that's compassion. We all have that innate character in us. So when you see other people act opposite of that, they are inhuman, non-human. They have a spirit upon them or inside of them, their brain and their mind and heart, to cause them to enjoy the lust of destroying a person. That is not good. I know that there's monkeys, like there's certain apes and tribes that do that. They murder. There's murder monkeys. They will go out and look at other chimps with them, or other chimps in a tribe that they'll go to, and they'll call a couple of them out and entice them with food and pretend to be their friends. They draw them to their tribe away from their home and they murder it. And after they murder them, they all beat them down, they murder them, then they eat them. And then they let the other tribe know what time it is, dude. I was sitting here like, hey, what? You know, like the animal kings will the animal king will be. Okay, but that's what I trained. I'm saying, dog, like, where does that stuff? That's a weird way of you know, like operating. Like that's odd. And we as humans have that.
SPEAKER_01The whole story you told me just reminded me of this thing I watched on uh Animal Planet or something not too long ago. Was talking about um crocodiles and stuff. Oh, yeah, they're doing and it was talking about how it was crocodile was getting ready to go after a baby elephant. It was like, you know, the baby elephant didn't keep up and blah blah blah. So now it's you know off on its own, it's gonna get caught, you know. That that uh Australian, like now it's creeping up for the attack, you know, whatever. And all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, the big old huge ass elephant with tusk comes over and bam! And just no no no and freaking picks the alligator up and just flings it off to the side, like get out of here, and it's like wow, and the little one just kind of like walks around in a circle and then they will just walk back, and the crocodile starts getting back into the water and is like, okay, they know not fucking with that one, they know that's what I mean.
SPEAKER_00They don't they don't mess around, man. And I I that's interesting, but that goes with anything, man. I I'm just saying, so when people commit those types of crimes and those types of things and enjoy it, then they're demonic and they are just they need to be destroyed. There's no there's no bargaining with that because they've already given themselves fully to that. You know?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So I mean, there's all I mean when it comes down to it, there's always somebody worse too. So even with them, there's always gonna be someone worse than them.
SPEAKER_00But you know what's crazy is that God is willing to like even reach to that depth to forgive that person. I believe God is even at that point, he'll give forgive Satan if Satan was asked for forgiveness. But he won't.
SPEAKER_01But what I'm saying is probably he probably, but yeah, he'll he'll never he won't ever admit to any of his wrongs and whatever. He was right, he did this, he, you know.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, no. Can't live like that. And people do that today. People want to be their own God, and people want to be their own, this is how it's gonna be. So that's the the the kerfuffle the kerfuffle uh of what we have in America is that every the the ones in Senate and Congress and office and up high wickedness in high places there. Hey, it's my way, the highway. Hey, we're gonna make it like this. This is what we're gonna do. Not okay. Listen, those listening, those listening, you all need to start paying veterans a lot more money. They've served their country. You need to start dumping some more some dollars up in their their bank accounts. Y'all need to stop paying the Israelis and everybody else and other foreign countries and governments stuff that they don't need. They don't need that money. You don't need to keep them afloat. Okay? They have their own system to keep themselves afloat. We have ours. And they have people that have protected this country and given their life for this country and the ultimate thing they've done to this country as well, and given their and sacrificed their limbs or their bodies or their time. Okay, so enough of the the rhetoric, garbage. Things are what they are. You know, the green machine is is is moving, and I see it, but hey man, start taking care of your Americans. You know, there's enough wealth to go around. It's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_01Well, it the um choice by ideology needs to stop too, because if they would stop doing that, they'd realize a lot of them don't have the same values.
SPEAKER_00Correct. And you know, maybe that's what y'all want. Y'all want us to fight each other, huh? You want you want people to have PTSD and start flipping out and start doing some crazy stuff.
SPEAKER_01Hey, like I said, the the the progressives, whatever, they can go with these Islamist ideals and everything like that, that are anti-sem sem anti-Semitics. They're not even Semites like that. They can go along with that. That's that's their choice. Listen, totally their choice.
SPEAKER_00Majority of the people in that country are not even Semites, they're not Semitic. They come from Europe, Poland, Russia, some Ukraine, they come from all over parts of Europe, and they come to that country and say they are Semitic. They have no ties to the Semites. The ones that have ties to the Semites are the Palestinians.
SPEAKER_01But like I said, when it comes down to it, they're they're doing that. Okay, so the progressives are doing that, and they're uh coming all down on Israel and everything. They're basically cozying up real good with the Islamic side. Okay. Well, they shouldn't be closing up with none of them. The only pro well, the only problem is they're so freaking stupid because that Islamic side, guess what? When they're done with the Jewish people, they're gonna turn on you. Well, that's they're so you're making friends with the person's gonna stab you in the back leg.
SPEAKER_00Correct, because that's in their that's in their uh uh what's it called? Their That's their MO. I know, but there's a a book, there's a like you know how the Jews have the Talmud, they have a cabal, like they have a they have something where it is the same, like they have strategies on how they deal with the infidel and the enemy. And one of them is lying, one of them is those type of things and how to bring down their enemy. So I I understand, dude. Like they it is what it is. I pray that there's peace. I love all I love all people, man. I can't call myself a Christian and not love people, so I don't want to see anything happen to any race of people. I pray that everyone comes to their senses, and I pray that they understand what true peace is in love. And I know I found that through Christ, and that's the only power and strength they can give that to you. Jesus, Yeshua, the only one, true God. And I'm telling you, I hope they get the idea. But don't don't come and try to cause harm to innocence because you'll get your face blown off the most subtle way.
SPEAKER_01Okay, see, but this is this is what people need to understand, okay? Just think about how things have been going, and then think about these few concepts, okay? The idea of laying plans, waging war, how you're gonna attack, your tactical dispositions, energy, your weak points and strong points, maneuvering, variating tactics. What are you reading? This is from the Art of War. Dude Does this not sound like exactly what the uh um attack by fire, use of spies. That sounds exactly what Antifa and all these other stupid protests.
SPEAKER_00Sun Tzu, like it's not hard to get the book. You read it, and now you just apply those tactics.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but it seems like they're applying those tactics. We gotta start applying the tactics too.
SPEAKER_00Damn straight. We need to figure it out. Somebody needs to, because they're I don't know. Yeah, but they're doing it in in a in a way that is unlawful.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00If you want to do things lawfully and righteously, then we cannot do them that way because Sun Tzu is not lawfully and righteously.
SPEAKER_01If we if we if we turned around and we actually sunk to their level, we could actually probably get them too. But we, you know, don't do that.
SPEAKER_00Well, we already have though. Let's just say that because they are known on all government channels. They've been watched, they have cameras everywhere, watching their every move. They know them. They take pictures of them. Like, okay, cool. They break something off. We know what to do and where to find you. That's what they're doing. That's what the government's doing. So there's letting them stack up their their crimes against themselves. That's just all they're doing with all these agencies, all these, all these secular underground society, you know, black lives matter, black panther, white nationalists, KKK, Nazi, uh just delusional individuals, degenerates, I pray for y'all. But let me tell you something, man. They're being watched. They are they are they're they're not safe. You guys think you're safe, you're not safe. You're watched from the government, and they don't like you, and they'll use you, and they're gonna hurt you if you ever do some stuff that you shouldn't.
SPEAKER_01Okay, see, and what's crazy is like right now you're saying you're being watched by the government. Yeah, okay. Not too long ago, no, no, no, not too long ago, okay, and this will really make you think about shit and sci-fi and how things go. Open AI models escaped containment and hacked systems without permission. Who did that? Open AI models. Ooh. They're they're AI models, they were testing stuff and it left the area and then went and hacked other systems all by itself. Man, and I think that is, I think right there is like, okay, yeah, we're we're we need to let this go because it's moving faster than we are.
SPEAKER_00It's moving too fast, and it's getting to a point where they're gonna try to control us and robotics and say, hey, the humans need to survive. They are killing each other at a rapid rate. We need to contain, and they will have the robots that they thought they were gonna help you at home, like they saw in the movies. All of a sudden, robot mode changed. And now they have a virus in them, and they're a red light instead of the green light, and now they're aft, they're gonna put pick you up because you you cannot, even an old person at home, you cannot physically stop iron and metal and robotics. No, you're not gonna be able to terminator. Have you ever seen that movie?
SPEAKER_01Come on, dude, even even if you had a gun or anything like that, it's bulletproof.
SPEAKER_00You have to you have to get into a place in the head behind the eye to get all intricate with it. And it has to take like a 308, 12-gauge slug, shotgun type thing in the face. I've played the games, I played the video games. That's the only way that you're going to destroy that item. So, therefore, this is crazy. We've come to this point now. I cannot believe it.
SPEAKER_01The f just the fact that it got loose, that's bad. Okay, I cannot believe that the fact that it got loose and then hacked other systems. It intentionally did that. It literally yeah, it means it intentionally escaped and then intentionally went in and said, you know what, I'm gonna take this over. It's see what I mean, and you all allowed it. So, what's gonna happen one time from a turnaround and going, you know what? I feel like taking over the nuclear codes.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna do that now. Again, you can't do nothing to stop me.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_00Now what? And then every sudden buttons are getting pushed and everybody thinks that oh, America just sent one to China, China sent one to America. Oh, now and everybody Russia sent one to China, you know, like back and forth. Like, no, we didn't do that, right? That's evil, that's crazy. That could happen, and we're not gonna have any control. None.
SPEAKER_01So that's why I said there could be a whole bunch of different levels of apocalypse.
SPEAKER_00Prepare yourselves. Prepare. I pray that we are stayed ready. Food, water, supplies, medical. Prepare yourselves. Because if that does happen, there's chaos and people are not gonna know what to do. But if you do know what to do, make sure you do for your family, and make sure you help those that you see along the way that need help. Yes. But don't trust nobody and be quick and ready to defend yourself and your family. You must have a switch, you must know when to activate your switch because you should be a man or woman walking in peace. But when a time for you to come, when it go when a go time is, and there's evil bears and wolves out there that are trying to come and harm you and your family, you must act accordingly. So don't hesitate to do that and don't be afraid to do that. God will judge them. True. Like that's how I look at it. That's the Marine Corps model back in the day. Kill them all, let God sort them out. Pretty much. You know what I mean? Like, so all right, cool. Kill them all, let God sort it out. And I mean, yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_01You know, what are they gonna do when the immigration crap gets so bad to where people don't trust other people that aren't Americans? Then what are you gonna do? You have all these people in this country.
SPEAKER_00They're trusting each other, and then oh, ooh, ooh, the reverse, the reversal. Oh, that'd be crazy. The reverse racism where you're going into a place to get help and like, we don't want to help you. You need to go somewhere. You're American, you're not in Muslim Ramneck. You go, bye-bye. I need medicine. Everybody else is shut down. We don't care unless you come and resort and you change your ways to Allah. Move out of our store. You know, then what are you gonna do, man? Well, that's how they're trying to grow with socialism and everything. I'm not being racist, by the way, when I'm doing those voices. I'm just depicting a scenario as if I was from.
SPEAKER_01But you're also depicting the scenario as if you were part of that group.
SPEAKER_00I don't want to be part of no group that turns people away and causes harm.
SPEAKER_01So, dude, if you turned around and told me that I had to do something or else, you weren't gonna help me, I would be like, okay.
SPEAKER_00I wouldn't be like, oh, for real? I got some people that really need some help. So you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna grab your head, Salid, and I'm gonna put you in a chokehold. And you're gonna tell me where everything's at and give it to me. Because I'm gonna need some water and some food. And then you're gonna go about Wow. You're gonna go about your merry way. Smoke your hookah and leave me alone. Thank ya.
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