Ep. 20 - The One Where Jesus Feeds 5000 [Mark 6:30-44]

The people chose to stay in the desolate place with Jesus rather than somewhere else without him.

What happens when an exhausted, grieving Jesus is interrupted by a crowd of thousands? In this episode of The Leader Lounge, Chris and Emily read the feeding of the 5,000 across all four Gospels (Matthew 14, Mark 6, Luke 9, John 6) — the only miracle besides the resurrection that shows up in every Gospel. They notice what each writer chose to include: the desolate place, the green grass, the barley loaves, the boy who actually owned the food. Chris and Emily unpack why the people walked away from comfort to sit in a deserted place just to be near Jesus, why Jesus chose to use a little boy in a culture that didn't count women or children, and what it means that he made twelve baskets of leftovers when he didn't need to use the loaves and fish at all.  "Jesus can take anything, the smallest amount, and when we bring it to him and lay it at his feet, he can do anything he wants with it."

SCRIPTURE REFERENCED

• Matthew 14:13-21
• Mark 6:30-44
• Luke 9:10-17
• John 6:1-15

WHAT TO LISTEN FOR

• The shared language across Matthew, Mark, and Luke — "a desolate place"
• What's happening right before the miracle: the disciples returning from ministry, exhausted, and the news that John the Baptist had just been beheaded
• Jesus being interrupted again — and choosing compassion over rest
• Emily's insight: the people left their food and homes to sit in the desolate place because Jesus was there
• John's unique detail — the little boy with five barley loaves and two fish
• Why John's account has Jesus initiating the conversation about food
• Jesus blesses the food and looks up to heaven before multiplying it
• Why Jesus chose to use the disciples and the boy when he didn't need them at all
• Emily's theory on what the 12 baskets of leftovers were really for
• Another example of Jesus honoring the overlooked — women, children, and now a young boy in a patriarchal culture
• Why "feeling inadequate" is exactly the right place to be when God wants to use you

FOR YOUTH LEADERS

• Try reading a Gospel story in all four (or all three Synoptic) accounts with your campaigners or small group. Have kids notice what each writer chose to include — it builds Bible literacy fast.
• Use this story when a kid (or a leader) feels like they don't have enough to offer. Jesus takes the small thing, blesses it, and multiplies it — but he wants to include us in the work.
• Notice the pattern Chris highlights: Jesus is interrupted, exhausted, and grieving — and still serves. That's a model for ministry seasons when you're running on fumes.
• Point out the boy. In a culture that didn't count women or children, Jesus chose to use a kid. That's a powerful reminder of how God sees the young leaders in your ministry.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

This is the Leader Lounge Podcast, a place where we have conversations about scripture and ministry in hopes of helping us all put God's word in our hearts and in our minds so that we can share it with others.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

The people came from the towns where they were, they had food, like they had comfort and food and a place to stay. And they went into the desolate place to be with Jesus. And they chose that over being in their homes because Jesus was there. Welcome back to the Leader of the Lounge podcast. I'm your co-host, Emily Storms.

SPEAKER_02 0:35

And I'm Chris Storms. So excited to get the chance to open up the Bible with you guys again today. And the story that we're doing today is actually in all four Gospels. And so just a reminder we, when we're doing these stories, a big part of why we're doing this podcast is so that we can learn these stories so well that we're able to just tell them. And so in doing that, uh we read all of the gospel accounts of these stories. So in some cases, a story is only in one gospel, which is you know, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are the gospels. And we'll just read that. But in some cases, it's in multiple gospels, usually three, um, the synoptic gospels, which is Matthew, Mark, and Luke. But today, the story that we're doing, which is Jesus feeding the 5,000, is in all four of the gospels. And so if you have your Bible, go ahead and grab it and we can read through it together. Emily's going to start. We're going to start in the book of Mark, which is uh the story is in Mark chapter six, and it's verse thirty.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

All right. So starting in verse thirty, the apostles returned to Jesus and told him all that they had done and taught, and he said to them, Come away by yourselves to a desolate place and rest awhile. For many of them were coming and going, and they had no leisure even to eat. And they went away in the boat to a desolate place by themselves. Now many saw them going and recognized them, and they ran there on foot from all the towns and got there ahead of them. When he went ashore he saw a great crowd, and he had compassion on them, because they were like sheep without a shepherd, and he began to teach them many things. And when it grew late, his disciples came to him, and said, This is a desolate place, and the hour is now late. Send them away to go into the surrounding countryside and villages and buy themselves something to eat. But he answered them, You give them something to eat. And they said to him, Shall we go and buy two hundred dinari worth of bread and give it to them to eat? And he said to them, How many loaves do you have? Go and see. And when they found out, they said five and two fish. Then he commanded them all to sit down in groups on the green grass, so they sat down in groups by hundreds and fifties, and taking the five loaves and the two fish, he looked up into heaven and said a blessing, and broke the loaves and gave them to the disciples to set before the people. And he divided the two fish among them all, and they all ate and were satisfied. And they took up twelve baskets full of broken pieces and of fish, and those who ate the loaves were five thousand men.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

Great. And so now we're going to flip over to Matthew, and it's Matthew 14. And as we do this, be thinking about the story that Emily just read, and if there's anything you know different in the way that Matthew describes this same exact story. And um, I'm having trouble getting there. What are we in? Matthew 14.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Verse 13.

SPEAKER_02 3:27

Got it. Wow, this is a lot shorter, just even looking at it right here. All right, here's what it says. Now when Jesus heard this, he withdrew from there in a boat to a desolate place by himself. But when the crowds heard it, they followed him on foot from the towns. When he went ashore, he saw a great crowd, and he had compassion on them and healed their sick. Now when it was evening, the disciples came to him and said, This is a desolate place, and the day is now over. Send the crowds away to go into the villages and buy food for themselves. But Jesus said, They need not go away, you give them something to eat. They said to him, We have only five loaves here and two fish, and he said, Bring them here to me. And then he ordered the crowds to sit down on the grass, and taking the five loaves and the two fish, he looked up to heaven and said a blessing. Then he broke the loaves and gave it to them to the disciples, and the disciples gave them to the crowds, and they all ate and were satisfied. And they took up twelve baskets full of broken pieces left over, and those who ate were about five thousand men, besides women and children. All right, now we're going to flip over to the book of Luke, chapter nine.

SPEAKER_00 4:36

All right, we are in verse ten. On their return the apostles told him all that they had done, and he took them and withdrew apart to a town called Beth Seda. When the crowds learned it, they followed him, and he welcomed them, and spoke to them of the kingdom of God, and cured those who had need of healing. Now the day began to wear away, and the twelve came and said to him, Send the crowd away to go into the surrounding villages and countryside, to find lodging and get provisions, for we are here in a desolate place. But he said to them, You give them something to eat. They said, We have no more than five loaves and two fish, unless we are to go and buy food for all these people, for there were about five thousand men. And he said to his disciples, Have them sit down in groups of about fifty each. And they did so, and had them all sit down, and taking the five loaves and the two fish, he looked up to heaven and set a blessing over them. Then he broke the loaves and gave them to the disciples to set before the crowd, and they all ate and were satisfied, and what was left over was picked up twelve baskets of broken pieces.

SPEAKER_02 5:36

Great, and then I will read from John, and it's John chapter six, and starting in verse one. After this Jesus went away to the other side of the Sea of Galilee, which is the Sea of Tiberias, and a large crowd was following him, because they saw the signs that he was doing on the sick. Jesus went up on the mountain, and there he sat down with his disciples. Now the Passover, the feast of the Jews, was at hand. Lifting up his eyes then, and seeing that a large crowd was coming toward him, Jesus said to Philip, Where are we to buy f bread so the so that these people may eat? He said this to test him, for he himself knew what he would do. Philip answered him, Two hundred denarii worth of bread would not be enough for each of them to get a little. One of his disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter's brother, said to him, There is a boy here who has five barley loaves and two fish, but what are they to s for so many? Jesus said, Have the people sit down. Now there was much grass in the place, so the men sat down, about five thousand in number. Jesus then took the loaves, and when he had given thanks, he distributed them to those who were seated, so also the fish, as they were as they wanted. And when they had eaten their fill, he told his disciples, gather up the leftover fragments, that nothing may be lost. So they gathered them up and filled the basket filled twelve baskets with fragments from the five bar barley loaves left by those who had eaten. When the people saw the sign that he sorry, people saw the sign he had done, they said, This is indeed the prophet who is to come into the world. Oh, you know what? Let me finish. Let me read that verse 15, too. Perceiving that they were about to come and take him by force to make him king, Jesus withdrew again to the mountain by himself.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

Um, I think all these accounts are very similar. Even I think except for John. John's a little bit different, but Matthew, Mark, and Luke all specifically use the language of they went to a desolate place, which like they use that exact wording, and then John, I think, is the only one that has the little boy or the boy that gives them the food.

SPEAKER_02 7:51

Right. It was interesting. The biggest difference between these, so Matthew, Mark, and Luke are all, you know, pretty similar. In John, Jesus is the one who initiates the conversation. Whereas about the food? Yeah. He's like, where are we going to find food for all these people? I think we need to remember, as we're learning this story, like they're writing a story about what happened, right? And so you can't put everything in the story. So we don't hear every conversation, obviously. So when I read that and I'm putting it all together, it makes me think that there, this is probably a conversation that happened, right? Where Jesus is probably saying, you know, where are we going to find the food? And the disciples are like, it's a desolate place. Where are we going to, you know, send them away? So it's not necessarily like just the disciples who are saying it, or just Jesus who are saying it, I don't think. I think it was more of like, this is a this is a conversation. And also to remember, John is writing this years later, too, right? And so he's probably recounting the conversation that took place. Um, and it's almost when I read it in John, it's almost like Jesus is kind of like egging the disciples on a little bit, knowing what you know, how they wrote it in the other ones. He's like, Where, I don't know, where are we gonna find food, you know, for all these people.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

It's also possible Jesus mentioned something to one disciple who went to the others, and then they came to Jesus. It might have been John. Yeah. If that's the case, then John knew that Jesus came to him first, and the other ones just knew that they went to him.

SPEAKER_02 9:23

That's a great point, Emily. A lot of times I think when I'm thinking about these stories, I I just picture all the disciples standing together as 12 guys all the time. And then so, but yeah, they were probably spread out among all the people and having different conversations, and like the the what it must have been like. And and here's the other thing. Why were they there? Because you mentioned a desolate place, so they're trying to go to a desolate place, but why?

SPEAKER_00 9:48

They were trying to rest because he had just sent out sent them out to go do ministry in other towns, um, and heal people and talk to people and turn to their houses, and then they came back and they were like so excited to tell them or to tell Jesus like what they'd done and everything that had been done through them, and then he wanted them to rest.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

Yes. But there's more to the story too, I think. I I think they just found out that John the Baptist had died as well. If you read, if you look in um in fact, in Mark and in Matthew, um, I'm not sure about Luke, but so in Matthew, it says here, um, it says, now when Jesus heard this, he withdrew with withdrew from there in a boat to a desolate place by himself. And so he we know he wasn't by himself, he was with his disciples. So he wasn't it a lot of times when it says by himself, you know, he would have his group of disciples with him, but he wanted to go be alone. And so this is another instance of Jesus being interrupted, which I think you've talked about before. So he's the disciples are tired, they come back, they're excited, they're tired, they need rest, and they find out John the Baptist has been beheaded, and so there's probably a sadness, and they just want to go be away, right? And and then all these people show up, and Jesus is willing to to serve them.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

I um have a lot of notes in my Bible on this passage, especially in Matthew, from um, I think it was a leadership, a young life leadership that we talked about it a while ago. And our area director at the time who was talking on it, just she talked about the desolate place a lot, and she mentioned that the people came from the towns where they were, they had food, like they had comfort and food and a place to stay, and they went into the desolate place to be with Jesus, and they chose that over being in their homes because Jesus was there. And I just have written that people chose to stay in the desolate place with Jesus rather than somewhere else without him, and I just think that's so cool. Of like they chose to stay for hours and hours and hours with no food and just bring their whole families out there just to listen to Jesus speak.

SPEAKER_02 12:17

Yeah, there was something very attractive about him in terms of like they just couldn't get enough almost. And when you think he's the God who created them, he's what we were designed to be in a relationship with, right? It just makes sense that people were just completely drawn, drawn to him, um, or completely drawn away from him, depending on on their hearts, right? I like so in the Matthew um version here in verse 16, Jesus tells the disciples, they don't need to go away, you give them something to eat. And then they say, they they they say to him, This is all we have. We only have five loaves, and we know that it was barley loaves, which is uh something that John points out, which all anytime there's a little detail like that, I love, you know. So they have these five barley loaves, and they have these two fish, and we know from John that that it was actually a little boy who had that stuff, right? So they they um some sort of conversation with this boy. So Jesus is like, you feed them, and they they say, We we really don't have anything. This is all we have. And you I don't know if I'm picturing it in my mind. I think that they're probably being sarcastic, maybe. Like I know I would be, like, this is all we have. And Jesus says, Bring them here to me. And I love that because it says that Jesus, you know, when and and we can read into this a lot, and I think a lot of times we read sometimes read too much in the scripture of like applying it to our own lives, or you know, like like this is a story that Jesus is telling about himself. Like we need to learn about Jesus from this. But it shows that Jesus can take anything, the smallest amount, and that when we bring it to him and we lay it at his feet, he can do anything he wants with it, right? And so when we do that, when we do apply that to our lives, I I know a lot of times I feel inadequate, you know, and you hear other people talk about their inadequacies, and I think that's exactly what we need to bring to Jesus. Like, like it's that's a good place to be. When when we feel like we've got it all together, then I I don't feel like God, you know, we don't need to rely on God, but it's when we feel inadequate and we feel like we don't have it all together, and we just come before him and say, All right, God, you're gonna have to use me because I don't have this, you know, that he multiplies and um and uses us.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

I also love that he chooses to use them because he made 12 baskets of leftovers. So he we know he didn't even need those five loaves and two fish. Like he could have just snapped his fingers, said a word, and like provided food for everybody, but he wanted to use the boy, he wanted to use his disciples to make that happen, which is so cool.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Yeah. I also love he blesses it, right? He looks up to heaven and and says a blessing over it before he um before he multiplies the loaves and the fish. Which I like. It shows the his relationship with the father, you know. What do you think the significance is in the twelve baskets? Do you just think it was like because there were twelve disciples and they're like maybe each each one gets their own basket?

SPEAKER_00 15:24

Maybe they brought it home. I don't know. Well, it's actually interesting. I think in John, no, I can't find the one I'm looking for. There was one where account where it specifically said yes, okay, so in Mark, Mark 6, it says the apostles returned to Jesus, told him all that they had done and taught, and he said, Come away by yourselves to a desolate place and rest a while, for many were coming and going, and they had no leisure even to eat. And so it's almost like they'd been out, they were so excited about what they'd done, but they were also exhausted. And in all of this ministry that they'd been doing, they didn't eat like they had no time to even eat at all. And so, I mean, it doesn't tell us, but they'd been away from their families, from if they had families, um, and from their lives there. And so it's almost like I wonder if those baskets were for them. Like, hey, you've been out serving me here. Here's some of the leftovers that you because I even think about Peter. I don't know if his wife was at they said Beth Seda is where it was. So I'm not sure where um was he in Capernaum?

SPEAKER_02 16:36

He was in Capernaum.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Probably okay. So that wouldn't exactly be the case, but I'm like, I wonder if Jesus wanted them to take those and provide for their families because they'd been gone, or for themselves because they hadn't they'd been busy, busy, busy.

SPEAKER_02 16:51

Yeah. You know, we've talked a lot about um Jesus lifting women up um and honoring women. You know, you have the the um the woman at the well, you have Mary who's the first one to see Jesus resurrected. And here again, culturally, like a boy wouldn't have been somebody necessarily that would be lifted up or used, you know, by God. And so Jesus is a it's another example of Jesus taking somebody who would have been kind of even, I mean, they even they didn't even count the women and children in the number, right? So there were 5,000 men, it says so. This was a very high highly patriarchal society where women and children were not seen necessarily as equal, but Jesus uses a young boy, and I I just I love that too.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

And we know he's young because they didn't say man and in that culture 13 is a man, right? And it specifically says boy. That's right. So he most likely was pretty young.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

Yeah. So you told me that this is one of your favorite stories. Why would you say that is? What about it as we close up here?

SPEAKER_00 17:59

Um, I just I think all kind of everything that we've talked about just rolled into one. Like it's just such a beautiful story of Jesus being having an interruptible life and performing this miracle even when he's exhausted and he's sad he just lost someone very close to him. Um and I think it's just a beautiful picture of ministry of we have nothing we give to God. He provides completely out of his power, but he wants to include us in it, and he wants us to share in the excitement and the I guess victory of it. Like he had them give out the he blessed the food and then was like, all right, y'all, go give out the food, go collect the food. Like he basically sent them out to do it and just gave them that part in it, which is beautiful, and then also even just like I love the 12 baskets because he did not have to do that at all. He could have just given everybody what they needed, um, but he provided in complete abundance, which is really, really cool.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

Well, great. Hey, before I pray, uh want to mention we are getting ready to do so. Every every podcast that we've done so far has been a Bible story, but we are um we're getting ready to do a three-part series on camp. And we're getting ready to take kids to camp in a few weeks. And so um, if you are a young life or a wildlife leader, would really encourage you to um subscribe to this podcast so you make sure you're getting the podcast, but also these camp podcasts are probably gonna come out not weekly. We're gonna drop them in the middle of the week, and we'll probably drop drop them pretty quickly together so that you can listen to listen to those. But they're gonna be fun. So um would encourage you to hop back and um I'm gonna pray us out. Let's pray. Jesus, thank you so much um for this time. I thank you for my awesome daughter Emily. I thank you that we get to do this together. I thank you um just for uh those who are listening, God, I pray, Father, that you would just uh take your word that we've read and we've talked about, and I pray that you would implant it in our hearts and in our minds so that it can have an impact on the way that we live our lives, so that we can love you better and we can love our neighbors better, and um and we can bring you glory, Lord. And we pray this in Jesus' name. Amen.