Ep 28: Your Circle Will Make or Break Your Success ft. Shatora Ladorne

In this episode, I sit down with Shatora Ladorne, founder of Business Rewired, a coaching and strategy hub that helps entrepreneurs build purposeful, profitable, and sustainable businesses through mindset shifts, systems, and execution.

We talk about the power of choosing the right coach, saying “yes” even when fear tries to hold you back, and trusting God to handle what you can’t. Shatora shares how her own journey shifted from music to teaching, and how community, side businesses, and preparing the next generation are crucial in today’s economy. We also dive into the importance of having a circle of women who support your moves, embrace your failures, and push you toward success.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to another episode of the Mompreneur Hello Podcast where motherhood and entrepreneurship meets and we talk about everything in between.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Girl is the boss, Mom. Baby girl is the perfect girl, you the boss mop. Making everything worth the girl, you the boss, mop. Stand on all of your business, and when it comes to investment, the baby girl, you don't really girl use the boss, mop. Yeah, I like that right there.

unknown 0:27

I like that.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Today I have a special guest, the amazing, the wonderful Shator Ladorne here from Business Rewired. Hey girl, that was a mouthful. That was a mouthful. And I'm transparent enough to know I had to do a few takes for that, and I love it. I'm here.

SPEAKER_02 0:52

This is the huddle.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

We're in the huddle. I don't even care. Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 0:54

You looking beautiful. Thank you so much. You look amazing. The blue is hoping.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

Thank you. I'm trying, girl. I am trying. Well, welcome. Well, welcome. Thank you for coming. Thank you for um being willing to share your story. And let's jump right into it. Tell our audience a little bit about you, who you are, and what do you do?

SPEAKER_02 1:11

Yes. So I am Chator Ladorn. I am a business and personal development strategist. I am the owner of Business Rewired University. I also am the founder of a nonprofit called the In-Between Initiative. And more importantly, I'm a mom. Yes. So my little ones aren't little anymore. So that's that's a change that's coming. Yes. But business is doing great. God is making the moves that he's supposed to be making. And um I'm my steps are ordered. Amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

Do you feel like you are walking in your purpose?

SPEAKER_02 1:45

That's one of those things that every day I go back and check. Okay. I have to sit with, I feel like God has me on this Moses-like assignment. That's big. It's big. That is big. It's so big. And trying to be, not I won't even say trying to be, making sure that I'm staying obedient to that and not following the shiny red balls. Yeah. I'm navigating leadership in a different way. I'm navigating the way that I do business. Okay. It seems like once you get to the top of the mountain, it's like, oh, it's an it's another layer. I ain't there yet.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

So wait, but let's talk about it though, because hmm, that Moses assignment. Who do you think God had to make you to be in order to give you that assignment? Because I'm pretty sure you were not always this chatoral adorn. No, you are not. So who did who did he have to make you to be? Like what were some of the challenging things that you had to go through to become this version of you? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 2:47

I have had the opportunity. I'll say the first opportunity was being an only child. Okay. So I'm an only child, but I had a lot of cousins. I grew up, all my cousins around. Sister cousins. Sister Brother Cousins. That's it right there. But because I was an only child, I had the opportunity to be able to see everyone's different household and how they operate, how they function, if their parents were successful, right? Um, and by parents, I mean of course my uncles. Yeah. Right. And so getting to see from that viewpoint and bring that back home and be able to think about it and not even realizing that I'm doing it, of course, it almost became a superpower because it allowed me to be able to see things from so many different perspectives. So I feel like God started working on me very early. Okay. Um, and of course, that doesn't come with this trial. So everybody that's like, God, use me. All right. Be careful what you ask for now. Be careful what you asked for. Use me, but be ready. Yes. Be ready. Absolutely. Being ready. And I think my journey has been about trusting God. Okay. That if you told me to take these steps, I have ordered my steps uh tattooed on my foot. Oh, do you? Yes, yes, yes. You sure do? I know that's right. That's what you preach. Yes. And there is a, it takes a special type of person to be able to walk in the shoes that God gave you.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

Understanding. Understanding how to walk in those shoes. Because it may not always be how we think, right? And looking in hindsight, you didn't know when he gave you that assignment. Did you even know what it was calling you to do? No.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

No, I thought I was going to be doing music. Yeah, it's okay. Our singing group, we were we were out there um really trying to go get it, calling record labels every day. Oh, you was hustling. We were doing the thing. Yeah. And so you couldn't have told me that that was going to come to an end. Right. I went into being a DJ for a while, doing voiceovers for a while.

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 5:01

But one of the things that I found throughout it all is that I've always been a teacher and I've always been speaking. That is my that's my bread and butter. And I went through the phase like many people do. What's my purpose? What am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do? And then it hit me that I'm a teacher and I was waiting for confetti to just like to say, hey, this is like, oh no.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Carry on. Carry on, people. Teach in what way? How am I supposed to teach? Is it in a classroom? I know I'm not supposed to have all these little kindergarten kids running around now, or like in what way? So I think that's the beauty in trying to understand and find your way. Because when we say teacher, it may have the society, you know, label or perspective on it through that lens. But in all reality, it's it's no, maybe I should be teaching in a different way. Absolutely. You know? Hey Mom Penores, if you enjoy creating content, talking about products, and you want to make some money while doing it, listen up. I'm excited to share that we are in partnership with Pharmacy, a beauty brand and a wellness brand that is global, that's innovative, and built for women like us. Here's why this opportunity is so powerful. You earn 50% commission from day one. Yes, day one. Your sales equals your success. The products are high performing and affordable, which makes them easy to promote and easy to use. You'll have access to trainings, support, and proven systems that makes growing simple. And you can build your business locally or globally. It's up to you. If you're ready to turn your influence into real income and impact, make sure you click the link below to understand how you can join my team of women, boss moms, mompreneurs who's adding those strings of income by joining pharmacy. I'll see you on the other side. This DJ, I wait, wait. She was a whole DJ, y'all. A whole singer, a whole DJ. When it comes to the what where was the connection? Where was the connection from that to, and I'm pretty sure there was a whole transition that you tried and failed, but at what point, at what stage was it in your life where you said, okay, I need to be speaking, I need to be helping people with their personal development. How did you get from that to that? What was that moment?

SPEAKER_02 7:21

It was a leap. So I had gotten married at the time. Uh, and you know, being the the good wife that we say, right? You you kind of slow down on your path. Right. The good wife. Whoever's listening can't see she put the quote like the good ones where you where you're trying to be the good wife, you're staying at home, you're not traveling as much because, of course, in that profession, you're across the country. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And so to do it successfully, right? And so just kind of scaling back on that. And then I got into insurance. Insurance is where I found being an independent insurance adjuster, moving into being a trainer in that space. Okay. And the one thing that I would hear all the time throughout all of the years, even in music, was oh, you you showed me how to do that with ease and never picked up on the cues. Right. And so in insurance, uh, I had a wonderful way of being able to break down when someone had a total loss. Okay. Uh, because that's one of the most detrimental moments in their life. And being with their house or with their car or their house, their car. Just for example, when it comes to a total loss with the vehicle, a lot of people are like, oh, you know what? I I'm done. I don't have to pay for the car anymore. And I would break it down in a way like, well, you borrowed the money. They don't care if you bought a stick of gum with the money, you still owe the money. And just something as simple as that, it's like, oh, okay, I get it. And so God gifted me with that talent to be able to break things down into bite-sized pieces that people can really consume. Yes. And from there, it just rolled into going into Toastmasters and uh being a part of Eric Thomas' group. Oh, you was a part of ET's group. Yes, yes. Oh, yes. And you know, E is Dynamics. The Speaker's Academy, that's the one. E is dynamic. Well, way back in uh it was Breathe University for anybody who breathed Okay, so so I aspired to go to one of the one that they just had here in Atlanta.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

I was not in town. I said I'm gonna get to ET um a conference. I'm going to, I love E.T. He was one of the first speakers that you know I I gravitated to. Yes. That uh thank God is Monday. Yes. Yes, yes, yes. So that is amazing. So it just catapulted from there, and you just were obedient and not even knowing you're being obedient to that calling by developing that skill. Absolutely. Now, I love the fact that um you moved on it because it takes some people years to figure it out. You know, the things that we're supposed to a lot of people don't know early on, maybe I need to get into Toastmasters, maybe I need to get coaching. We don't know that early on. Did you have someone that kind of coached you into it, or was that just the environment? Because I know Atlanta, Atlanta is a lot of that. There's a lot of coaches, like you're almost destined to be a coach living here in Atlanta, where the access to it where I'm from wasn't that bold in your face. Absolutely. You know what I mean? So did someone push you into it, or like were you exposed to that early on?

SPEAKER_02 10:32

So actually, I was on an assignment. I was only supposed to be here in Atlanta 30 days, and it turned into four years. Really?

unknown 10:41

Wait.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

I know that it just keeps on falling, right? Wait, this is a lot, this onion got a lot of layers. Hold on. It does, it does. But my best friend actually, one day she was like, you know what? You should join Toastmasters. And I was like, Toastmasters, that's all stuffy speaking, you know. And but it was a step. And I think that's one of the things that we miss. Like you said, being able to act on it. It was a step. I think that when you take a step, God is going to pivot you and truly order whatever step you'll end up in the right direction as long as you take one. And it's so hard.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

We be in our own way. Oh, all the time. We be in our own way just by that one thing. Now, if it wasn't Shitor, right? If it was Tammy, Tammy would have been like, I ain't going to Toastmasters. They try to give me to do that in school, and I wouldn't have gone.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

You know, I know me. I wouldn't have gone. I'm like, no, I'ma just, I'm gonna go follow what's popular. I'm gonna do what's popular, you know. But we be in our own way. Yes, and then God gonna say, Nope. Now you're gonna repeat it because you ain't do what I told you to do the first time. Yes. And that would maybe hard. Hey, listen, listen. But no, um, we be in our own way. And like you said, it's just a step. It's just one step. Whether it is well, all all steps are, I believe. Whether you see it as successful or a failure, all steps are a needle move if you take that step. Because now you know it doesn't work, or now you know it works, right? So, yeah. So are you okay? So you you're you're able to break down the information and bicep pieces. That's a superpower in itself. Does it show up in motherhood? Does it show up? Because that's a whole nother level of patience that you gotta have. Does it show up?

SPEAKER_02 12:33

Yes, and it's good and bad, right? Because the the teacher in you wants to to teach and say, I know, like just trust me on this. But then there's the true parent who needs to say, Let me sit back and let you fail. Let you let you do this thing. Um, I will guide you. Uh I will say that between my sons and their friends, because the friends is always over. My house is their house. Oh, you you you their house. I'm dead. How old are your boys? Um, 19 and 14. Okay, okay. 19 and 14.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

The 19-year-old friends are all in your house? Yes. Girl, you better get give them an invoice. Oh, oh, but light bills.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

Give them an invoice, baby. Here you go. Yes, there's all of that. Light bills, water bills, uh, taking out the dogs, all of the things. Mama Chateaura. Meanwhile, Mama Chateau house. Yes. But they they truly come to me, and I appreciate that. They come to me for advice and in breaking things down. Now they don't always listen, and that's fine. But at least I gave the information and I see it show up later. Yeah. When they start making the right thing.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

That's them boys, though. Oh, okay. That is them boys. And you've already laid that groundwork, and you said something that I caught that I love when I hear mom say, is that they come to me. Yeah. They come to me. That shows that trust. So that shows what you've instilled in them over the years. Do you realize that a lot of people are not fortunate enough to have that? It's still women my age that say, I can't talk to my mom. Yeah. I can't talk to my dad. And I I just think like how you know, like I cannot imagine not being able to, if your mom is is still here, of course, having that relationship. And it's just so sad to me. It's just so sad to me. But you've created that. Yeah. You created that.

SPEAKER_02 14:26

And I'll say this. I think it came from, like I said, that initial superpower of being able to or or gift, even being able to see everyone's home and see how I want it to function, see how I'd like to move. Only because me and my mom's relationship, it was never bad, right? But it was never the one that you see on TV where they're close and doing each other's hair and all of that. And I think sometimes we set those expectations and we're looking for something that's like it don't even exist. That's that's not really true. Not in that way, right? Right. Not in that way. And so navigating what that relationship looks like with your own parent, what is their style? I'm I'm pretty hands-off. But if they want to come to me, they want to hug, they want all of that, cool. My mom is hands off, but she will also, oh, you want to hug? Yeah, I'll give you the hug, all of that. But when you're younger, it's like you're supposed to be, you know.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

It's that, it's it's those those TV shows we watch. Yes, those full houses and family matters. And it it made it, I mean, it gave us hope to the American dream. Yeah if it I'm gonna use the air course now, if that's what it is, the American dream. But um, as you get older, you realize, no, the life is not that. It's how how I want it to be, and that's okay for us. Yeah, what works for us, you know. And you have two boys, so you the 19-year-old, he's not a dad yet, right? No. Okay. She said, no, no, no.

unknown 16:03

No.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

Because even when it comes to that mother daughter, the mother daughter, um, it's like how I I don't know, and I don't know of anybody out there that can relate. It was an automatic fear of trying to protect or prevent her from becoming what we see or what we've experienced being a woman. And for boys, it's like that automatic um trying to protect them from what we know they can go through as a mom. But this is what society makes us believe that they're gonna become before they even start walking. Right. You know, so it's like form your own, create your own environment and know what you want, know how you don't want to raise your children, and you go from there and always put God first. So I I love that that they come to you now. 14 and 19, that's not a big gap, but they're in different parts of their lives right now. Yes. Who do you have to be to show up for the 19-year-old and the 14-year-old?

SPEAKER_02 17:06

Oh man. So my 19-year-old, he'll be 20 in August. Um you better have a grown man.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

Well, he has a grown man now, he's 18.

SPEAKER_02 17:13

I know, right? Uh he is very, that's my guy, right? Like, that's my guy. Now we can talk about things. He's the one who we can be in a in the house together, two, three days go by, haven't said a word, and we're good. And then the next day we're laughing, we're sharing videos, we're doing, and that's our that's our style. That's how we do it. His friends will be there when he's not there, right? Oh, you're close, close like that. Close close.

SPEAKER_01 17:45

Okay. So you raise them. You raised them too, yes. Right.

SPEAKER_02 17:49

Um, he has a lovely girlfriend. Um, they it looks like they are they're the for lifers. And uh, my youngest, he's the one who um we're we're the closest when it comes to the physical. Okay. Right. We'll sit, watch movies. Well, he's 14 now, so that has changed in like the last year.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

He's in the stage.

SPEAKER_02 18:13

He's in the dipper stage. This is when you start feeling like they don't, you don't love me no more. You don't be with me, be up under me. Mm-hmm. Okay. I'll I'll get the people. Oh, well, you can't go out because you have uh, yes, I can. Absolutely. Absolutely. I can go, I can pretty much be anywhere, anywhere, but they are self-sufficient enough and they love each other enough. And I think I've instilled enough values in them to where uh actually that's one of the things that I used to say transparently. I used to say, if I, God forbid, something ever happened to me, I would hope that no one knew until you couldn't pay a bill. And between both of them, that has kind of cultivated their relationship to be closer.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

I'm about to say that's a that's an interesting way of putting it. Yeah. I like that. Yeah, I like that. What was the biggest um lessons you have to learn that that came from motherhood, that came from raising these boys, and getting to the point where now it is like, okay, I see them at this level. The struggles are real, the struggles are there. What was the biggest lesson that almost breaking point lesson?

SPEAKER_02 19:27

I think those are coming now. The younger years were easier for me. Really? Okay. The years now are, and I think it's the economy too, right? Okay. My oldest being 19, going on 20, and the world is his oyster. Yeah. But that looks different from our world as an oyster. Right now, I could go get an apartment for $325 back then, and I was good. Now, there's just so many things that are almost against them. And keeping him positive and knowing, hey, you know, yes, you know, he feels that way of being a man and wanting to navigate the world and and conquer and do all of the things. Uh, but there's also the, oh wait, nobody's calling back for jobs right now.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:15

Does it make sense to go to school now?

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:17

Right. We had the, oh, you're supposed to go to school and you're supposed to. It was cookie cutter. It was cookie cutter. But now there's so many opportunities that it's a little more difficult to navigate what does make sense and will, you know, I'll find success. And so I think now it's being that okay, helping you navigate and and find your way, being the voice there to help. But this is a completely different landscape, right?

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Do y'all talk about entrepreneurship? Do you okay what do you do? He details cars and wraps cars and all of that in the youngest. Honestly, the way the economy in the world is, that's almost a route for everybody to probably take. You know, still do what you're gonna do if you're gonna work nine to five in corporate, but having your own business or something on the side, it's almost like you need it. Yeah, you need it. Because, like you said, the economy is way different. And I was having a conversation with um one of my girlfriends one time, and we were talking about how at 18 we were just off at college, we just out the house. Some parents is putting their kids out the house. 18, you gotta go. And it's like, now I I can't see my son will be 17 this year. I can't see putting him out at 18. Yeah. Not right now. Like, you're not ready. You're not ready. Now, if you are ready, then by all means, but just know you always have a place to call home. I would rather for you to be prepared. Yes. You want to learn how to pay rent. Okay, I'm gonna charge you to live in my house because my house ain't cheap. So I'm gonna charge you. But you're not struggling. Right. We always had to figure it out and struggle, not just in not individually, but just as a culture, as a black culture. We always had to figure it out on our own, starting from ground zero. And that's one of the things I love about Myron Golden. Do you watch him? Yes. He talks about, you know, that legacy that teaching your children and preparing them so that way we don't have to always start over. Like, I'm like, we we were so behind the curve. So behind the curve. We didn't know. But now that we do know, like I feel like people are still ignorant to the information.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

They are still not wanting to learn.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

And there's a fear that comes with that, right? There's a fear of okay, I I see it, I know that's the way, but can I? And even beyond the the can I, because there is so much out there, it's like, what do I do? Do I am I a TikToker?

SPEAKER_01 22:49

That's a real thing. That is a real thing. Right.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

Yes. And the fact that that's a real thing now. There, there's no way, even 10 years ago, you say, Oh, yeah, you know, I tick tock for you. Your mom would have been like, oh, what are a water? Excuse me. You tick tock it and jar rating and remember on what was it? On Martin, Tommy was an entrepreneur. And he had a little job. Right. That was that was an entrepreneur.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

But that's what they think too. Even now, though, you're an entrepreneur. Oh, that little business. Oh, what people won't understand what entrepreneurship is until you actually dive deep into what it is people are doing and actually seeing that you're making a living off of these things.

SPEAKER_03 23:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

And like you're right, it is that fear of that unknown or not knowing. Yeah. How do you change that mindset? Because you deal with you know personalities. How do you change that in your clients when they come to you and want to work? You can see that automatically. How do you change that?

SPEAKER_02 23:45

It's the confidence. When I'm listening to what they're saying, I was actually talking to a girl um two days ago. And by girl, I mean literally young girl. Okay. Um, young lady. I'll say young lady. And she's that person that has so many ideas. Just I can do all of these things. I have all of these talents. And it's difficult to say, just choose one and go with it. Slow down, baby. Yes. Focus on one. Choose one, go with it. And I remember hearing those words, and it's like, yeah, that's the problem. I can't just choose one. And I said, go back to the last thing you were doing, start from there and begin taking steps. And she was saying that that gave her a bit of clarity, just simply because you are, you're trying to figure out where to go. Go back to what you were doing last, take a step from there. If you can't go back from that, spin a wheel. Trust God enough that your steps will be ordered. You will get pivoted or you will get blocked. But it will, it will come to pass. And one of the other parts of that is that we don't want to waste time. Yeah. We don't want to waste any of the time that I don't want to do this wrong. If I'm gonna do it, I want to do it right the first time.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

And what's our solution to that? It's the journey. What is our what's it what's the biggest the biggest solution? You're a coach. Oh yes. You are a coach. Get you a coach. Get a coach. Get a coach. Always. I cannot tell you how much of an advocate of coaching, the right coach. The right coach. You gotta have some discernment now. You gotta do your research because there's so many, like I said, the coaching space is just so cluttered. But you'll find who is for you. But I am an advocate for coach. I will I will invest in myself to get to an answer because I know how valuable my time is now. That's it. I know how valuable it is now. And I I will out listen, I don't care if it's me, I don't care if it's is Moses himself, Jesus or whoever. Like, well, Jesus better always be a coach. But get you a coach.

unknown 25:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

Because just like you were that transformation for her, you help her see that in that small. Now, if she stayed working with you, imagine, imagine, and you're gonna fail, right? So I think that is um, I think that is wonderful that you're able to touch those people. Um, but how do you get it to the masses? Like how do how do we make a change as a as a people, as women? Because it's us, yes, men are the leaders of their households if you're married, if you're in a relationship, but it's us as women. We have to uphold our own too. You know what I'm saying? And there's a lot of mindset blockages from um a woman is not getting paid enough, I can't do what a man does, or just how do you change it? Or where do we begin to change it?

SPEAKER_02 26:36

I I think that's being a part like having other change makers. Yeah. Uh what did Neo say? I'm a movement by myself. I'm a force. That's it. Being a force. Yeah. When you have a set of women that you can come to and truly talk about ideas, and it's not just talk, you can move on those ideas. My closest circle of friends, we move on ideas. And you you've been in the situation, I'm sure, before where it's like, oh, that was my idea. I thought about that five years ago. And it's like, yeah, because God needed to get it out into the world.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Who said that? Who said that? Which uh Michael Jackson about Prince. About Prince. What did he say? He said he will always do it because he thought God would give it to Prince if he didn't. That is so real. It's so real. Like it floats around, it's gonna land on somebody, like, and you need to be that one. If not, it's gonna move to the next. That's it. So right. That's it.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

And I think that's the that is the change. It's being with other people who understand that, who know that, and are able to make those moves with you. Yes. And they're able to fail with you. Yes. And I'll say it, not everybody is going to have that circle, but you have to put yourself in that circle. Uh I had to put myself into Toastmasters. I had to become a part of ET's group. And especially if you can get in on the ground floor with something. Yes. I I think I joined Breathe University in 2013, everything was established. 2014 is when I joined. Okay. When you can get in and don't just get into something, be a part of it. Effectively be a part.

SPEAKER_01 28:19

Yes, yes. Put yourself in though. So wait. So Breedhe University, he has. Um, I was watching this podcast. What is it called? Something for the youth. He has it now. Uh, did you put your sons in that? No. Okay. Okay. Because I wanted to, but he's not here. My youngest. I was like, oh my gosh, I want to do this with him, but yeah, he's not gonna be focused if he's not here. But I just love E.T. I love ET. But that was off topic. I just wanted to ask you that. Um, but yeah, so you um um putting yourself in those circles, you meet your people when you do that, and it's a reason why you have to move on it. Like even I met you where I meet you at the Montpreneur Brunch, right? This connection would have never happened, and who knows what comes about these things? Who knows how we're supposed to work together? Who knows, right? But you can never do that unless you're moving your feet, which is tattoo say your steps, order your steps. Community is so important, so important, so important. Um, no judgment community, no judgment community because um, with women, though, there can be a lot of jealousy, yes, envious. Like, how do you keep that out of your circle?

SPEAKER_02 29:33

You know what? I think that's a packed me and God probably made a long time ago because I don't I don't have those issues. Good. And especially if I see it, I'm just not joining. Yeah. And that's a limit sometimes because you do need to know how to work with different personalities. You need to know how to navigate that space. Uh, but I've been fortunate enough to not have to. I've prayed many times before. God, if it's not for me, let it just lock it not be, let it fall away. Yeah, and it's happened many times. Many times, where it's like, oh wait, that person, I was supposed to go back.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

Thank you, God. Right to the big man. Good looking out. Listen, good looking out. No, that's real though. Yeah. That is real though. One of the prayers I pray every morning, God, if it's for me, bless it, if it's not, block it. And the things that, and and sometimes that first time I won't catch it because then I try to force it. Uh-huh. But then if it happened again, I'll be like, all right, okay, this was your prayer. Stop trying to force it. So yeah, that it does, it does come to fruition when you definitely um put it in God's hands. Yes. But in God's hands. Do you have a private community? Are you growing your own private, not just circle of friends, but like your private community? You do? Yes.

SPEAKER_02 30:46

So I have the Business Rewired University family. Um, they are a wonderful group uh of people. I at first I was just doing cohorts. Okay. And I was like, there's so many people that want to join and they can't just dedicate that 90 days. Yes. So I turned it into a tier model. So now pretty much, you know, any anyone within an idea can join. But I'm also still very honest. My coaches are very honest. If you're not ready for it, there's no point.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

How does one be ready for it? What if somebody's listening and they wanted to join? How do how do how do they prepare to be ready for it? What would it have to be?

SPEAKER_02 31:24

Yes. So my company isn't the I'm trying to find my passion company. It is, I have an idea, I want to see it through to fruition. Right. And I think some people get caught up on is this my end all be-all? And one of the first things you have to understand is it's going to change. If it doesn't change nothing is your end-all be-all. Right. Nothing is your end-all be all. If it doesn't change from when you first start building the business, you might be building wrong. You might be trying to push a needle. That ain't supposed to be. Because it's supposed to evolve you. You're gonna be different in every season. Yes, yes, and that's the best part about the community is that now as things are evolving, you have a playbook so that you do have a roadmap, but you also have a coach every single week to help you from where you are, okay, to be able to help you with what you need. Because you get a lot of these cookie cutter programs. I have 33 modules, and I have plenty of modules.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

33 modules, first of all. Right. You just gave me anxiety. I had to sit up. Wait, 33. That's how it is, right? You don't need 33 mods. Don't don't give me the fluff. That's it. Don't give me the fluff.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

That's it. Girl, uh, and you you have that though. 33 modules and your business will be together. And no, no. No, that's not how it works. When I say I have a 90-day business build out, it's that it's a build out in 90 days.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

Right? Do they launch while they're with you in 90 days? Okay. So you're able to see them through their launch, work through with them with the results and everything. Wonderful. Yes. Wonderful.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

The only time it takes a little bit longer is, of course, the brick and mortar location, something like that.

SPEAKER_01 33:08

Oh, so you work with people with physical and service-based. Yes. Nice, nice. And you have other coaches. So I heard you keep saying my coaches is not just you. Right. Siskill. Sis got the big. How many coaches do you have?

SPEAKER_02 33:21

Right now, I only have two other coaches. Okay. Oh, nah, nah. I won't go on the coach. I was about to say, let's let's do that. Ask that question again. How many questions? How many coaches you got? I have two coaches. The reason that I said only is because I want to expand even more. My goal is actually to have the university to be able to be licensed. Yes. And then other communities, because I see so many things, especially in like trade schools and all of that, where um you go to the trade school, you learn the trade, but you never find out how to start the business from your start. If you're in cosmetology, you don't learn how to start the salon. No, you just learn how to do hair and get licensed. Right. Yeah. And so if there was an entrepreneurial track, business rewired university. Small plug, let's go. Let's go. If there's if there's an entrepreneurial track, or if you have some other sort of business and you're like, I really want to be able to teach the business component to it, I don't have the time. Great. License the content. And also I can train one of their coaches. So the goal is to expand, not necessarily coaches under my umbrella, okay, but coaches around, right? That understand how to train the content, they'll come back and however their business flows, right? The goal is to be a subject matter expert for your lane. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

So you have um an affiliate program?

SPEAKER_02 34:39

I do.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

I need one. I do. Okay. Because yours sound like the the in-between of where my programs are. So I have a program um called Gracefully Paid, and it starts with the groundwork. So most entrepreneurs, all they hear is six-figure this and scale that, but most of them haven't even made $5,000 consecutively. Right. So I do help the entrepreneurs at the base level. Hence why we have this to give them a platform, right? But um that middle piece, I'm not, I don't work with them now. I go right to one-on-ones and they're not ready for that. So that sounds like something if you got an affiliate program, okay. You know, we'll talk about that offline. Let's do it. But no, I think that I think that it is much needed. It is much needed because um we we don't have, or no, I'm not gonna say we didn't have it, we didn't know of it, or it wasn't as popular to seek that help. There was always go to this college, get this degree, get a business degree, but that's different. Yeah, that is different. I can't think of too many things I've applied in my own business from my degrees. Same. Uh uh aside from the people or taught or public speaking, or you know what I'm saying? But it's it's not too many things that I've applied. Yeah. And now I can't remember the classes I even took in college or grad school. You know what I mean? Like it's like, shout out to my degrees though. But it's like we need these spaces. We need these spaces. So um, how is how how is your um your coaching set up? Do you have the weekly calls and is it group coaching or for for everyone?

SPEAKER_02 36:14

Yes. So we have three tiers. Um the tier number one, that's for those of you that are like, I want the 33 modules, and I advise against it. I have it because I know some of y'all are out there. I advise against it. Um, but then I have my my core program. Yeah, it's business rewired core, uh, where we do. We meet every single Sunday. We're having a good time. They have pitching events, uh, we have investors' events, so always something good. I love to bring people in. I would love to have you come in and speak. Absolutely. I'm here for it. Absolutely. Just to come in, have a good conversation, and really talk business. Yes. Um, and then talking about the things outside of business as well. Yes. Um, and then I have a true cohort. So if you did want me to walk you through one-on-one, we're walking through 90 days of this thing. I'm here for it too. Okay. Okay. What about some in-person events? Yes, I'd love in-person events. I am not personally putting on my own in-person event. I need you to, though. Yes. I advocate for them. Maybe in the future. Maybe in the future. I am happy to put one on. Yes. I I will gladly show up. I will bring the people out, but when it comes to me organizing events and a planning event, maybe um, there's people in my community that do great event planning.

SPEAKER_01 37:41

Listen, that that's enough. So I'm I'm an I I love to do events. I started off with um, of course, book events, because I'm an author. I was in urban fiction. And then when I went into fashion, it started off with fashion shows. So I was packing out the the arenas for the not arenas. Lord, arena is in the work though, because it came to me, right? That's it. But the event spaces was packing out the event spaces. But now we're doing our first conference, Elevate Your Purpose. And when I say that's a whole different ball game. Yes. It's a whole different ball game because now you are really narrowing it down to, you know, this specific group of people. Like it's easy to get people to come to a party or something fun. Yes. But when you're talking um faith, motivation, inspiration, it's work, it's stress, people buying at the last minute. And it's like, all right, ooh. I get it. I get it. And we didn't even get into um, well, we actually got into the launch of it, but um, we locked in one sponsor, so we pushed it back. So now it's going to be the spring of 26. And the planning for that, and I want everything to be like in true Tammy Capri Fashion, it's like the planning for that is like it's a lot. So I get you.

SPEAKER_03 38:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:59

But now that I know that um you'll come out and you'll speak. Absolutely. Listen, we're gonna have to talk off off camera too, because um I I am I I do have a lot of people that I want to um invite to speak. We haven't made any selections yet. So um, yeah, I'm gonna add you to that list. Okay. I'm gonna add you to that list, but yeah, I get what you mean. Thank you. I get what you mean. But in-persons are so important because it brings people um outside, it it brings people from behind their computer screens. Yes. We got so comfortable with being virtual this, virtual that. Get in touch with your people. Yes. Get in touch with your people. I love to see, especially here in Atlanta. Yeah, I love to see when people are getting together, not just for the social things, but you're getting a real value, real impact when you go to these events. Absolutely. When you go to these events. So um, no, I love it. I love it. So what is next for what is next for the university? Now, you you are gonna grow in coaching. Um what was next? Are you looking for actual physical location too to where people can come to? That's next. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

So that is the ultimate goal for the university is to build out. So if you've ever been to like the Rice uh Center, nope. Um, well, an entrepreneurial center where you can come and do things like host your podcast and yes, it's called the Rice Center. Rice Russell Innovation. Send that to me, send it to me.

SPEAKER_01 40:30

It's like a workspace type of environment.

SPEAKER_02 40:33

Okay. Yes. And one of the things that I find is that there are a lot of those out, but because you don't have someone coaching you through, um I I actually offered this as an opportunity to a few, like the chambers and all of that, where they have these locations where again, you can come and do podcasts, you can record, you can uh do brand imaging. Um, they have different conferences there. A lot of the universities will use the spaces for conferences. Um, but the people who are truly entrepreneurs may not even know about it. Right. Yeah. There's co-working space, there's all of that, and that is my goal to have that, but with the component of you show up with your coaches. Yes. Right? Yes. You show up, and there are people there who can truly guide you. You're not just a fish out of water because one of the things is that you get all of this great information out of a fire hose. But how do you execute it?

SPEAKER_01 41:30

Right, and you have no idea how to execute, organize. What do I need to do now versus later? This is all good. Yes, you're right. I have notebooks and top of notebooks over the years of just information. Yes. And I may only use three things out of that one notebook, and it's like it's so much more information in here. If I would have had a coach, they could help me put this whole thing into a plan. You are absolutely right. You are absolutely right.

SPEAKER_02 41:53

And if you are a coach, have a coach.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Every coach, yes, build the impact. No, it's it's it is our purpose, um, our divine makeup to do that. Like we live through and experience things for us to turn around and say, hey, let me teach the next. Because we are building, we are, we are really building the next generation of entrepreneurs, of moms, and and that leadership, we got the I don't know how it was down here, but I'm pretty sure it was probably similar if you lived in the inner city. But we felt it growing up when that leadership left. And by leadership, I mean the OGs in the neighborhood, right? Now you got kids disrespecting old folks down the street, which would have never happened. It would have never happened back in the day. Now you got parents, you know, coming to their kids' defense. Oh, don't talk to my kid like that. When you know your kid was out doing something and she's correcting him, now you get mad at her. Yes. That's where the disconnect is lost because we don't turn around and say, once we make it, once we get out of poverty, once we understand how to use our money, because this mom may be stressed, yeah, and now she's hearing this bad news or someone says something to her chip, now she's lashing out on them, but it's not really that that um that issue. The issue is I'm stressed and I'm overworked and I'm not getting no money. Yeah, but if I would have somebody show me how to navigate this thing called life, then it would have been a whole different outcome. Like it plays an effect on everything, everything, not just in our business. So it is our responsibility to turn around and help the next person, however, that looks absolutely within our communities, within our our our neighborhoods, wherever. Our children, it is our responsibility. And I want to give you your flowers because you're doing it. You are actively doing it. Thank you. Actively doing it. So um, I'm not even gonna ask you the question of. Is there any more babies in the future? Because you got a 14-year-old, but you never know. You never know. I know somebody that started over at 17. Started over at 17. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

Any plans for any more children? I don't have plans for more children. Okay. When I'm married again, then that's a conversation we can have. I don't foresee more children. Okay. I see the remainder of the years being able to truly lead and live. Okay. That's my that's my goal.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

And I will say biologically, it may not be, but God gave you more children because your covenant is holding other people's children. They're there for a reason. Oh, yeah. You know? And pouring into them and just them being exposed to you and seeing that, that's doing something for them. That's planting the seed right now for them.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:02

That they don't even realize. Right. So it may not even be in the biological sense. It just may be like these are my children. God has blessed you with other children. And that is a wonderful, beautiful way to look at it. Thank you, Lord.

SPEAKER_02 45:14

It really is. Um, and shout out to all probably 10 of them that are at my house right now.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

She's sitting comfortably knowing that these teenagers are at her house. No, that is amazing though. I I just love, I I love, I can have these conversations all day.

SPEAKER_03 45:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

Have them all day. What is the one thing that you wish you could have done differently? Um, not living with regrets, but one thing you would have done differently that would have gotten you to this place a little bit sooner, or you would have think that would have gotten you here a little bit sooner?

SPEAKER_02 45:48

I would have said yes to things that I that I was afraid to do, that I was fully equipped to do. You know, that's one thing when you're not sure. It's another when you're fully equipped. You knew you was equipped. You knew you said and you still were like, uh-huh, but I don't know if it's gonna, I don't know if it's gonna work out. Those as we all say, right? There would be so much more success and so much more. But I know that's also God's timing. But I definitely would have started big saying yes. What's the prerequisite to yes? To saying yes. I think the only prerequisite is trusting God will handle it. I like that. Good, bad, or indifferent. I like that. God will handle it. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 46:37

All you gotta do is say yes. I like that. You are such a joy to have today. Thank you. Such a joy to have today. You now you you give me, you give me preacher's wife a little bit, but you also give me, I can turn up now a little bit too. Like, what's that? What's that go-to jam for you? When you ready to get crunk, when you ready, I said crunk. I'm in the land of Lord Jesus. Right. I said crunk. Well, when you're ready to get like hyped that that when you're about to go on stage and that give you that energy joke, like what's that go-to song that you gotta play? Okay, y'all don't judge me. No judgment zone in the huddle. No judgment zone.

SPEAKER_02 47:15

Yes, I talk like I I am all God all day. Um, but I have two go-to songs. The first one is Headlines by Drake. Okay, okay, okay. If anybody knows how that song begins, yes, we we are fully confident over here. Yes. Um, and the other one is by Russ. Um, yes, sir. I never heard that. When you listen to it, you make sure you text me.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Russ R-U-S-S. R you s text me that when you get it. Text me that's I'm gonna listen to it. I absolutely will. Because you're the DJ, you gonna call me and you know it's oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:53

You're still looking at you like what? You're gonna call me and be like, no, girl, what? I'm about to get my Bible. Right, right. Yes, don't sit in the back.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

I get, I get, I mean, I I no judgment here because I like my music too. Like I am a DMX, like anything DMX that dun dun dun dun dun dun dun I gotta hear that before I'm about to, you notice that something new. Stop. Listen, that would get me so hyped. Yes. Um, and in the position that we are now, I am I am all the way on my faith walk. Um, but I do understand my position. So I don't ever, I don't ever shame anybody for listening because I know that I'm at fault, nobody's perfect. And I do also believe that, yes, um, you can get messages through music, but I don't indulge in it all the time. But I also know when I do, I know or I pray I continue to keep knowing or deciphering through what's good and what's bad, what's evil. And if I feel myself getting to a point where I'm getting angry or annoyed, like I'm at a place to where I can check myself. Like, girl, why are you mad?

SPEAKER_02 49:10

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 49:11

You know what I'm saying? Why are you mad? But that came with time. You know what I'm saying? Music will change like our children, they're not old enough to or mature enough, I'm not gonna say old enough, but mature enough to understand um their feelings, emotions when they're having them in real time. Yeah, we can do that. Yeah, so that judgment, whatever that song is gonna say, I know you're still able to discern through it. You know what I'm saying? Because you work through that. But our kids, girl, they be listening to stuff, and I'll hear it from upstairs, and I'm just listening to the words, right? And then my son will come down, attitude instantly, and he'll come down, open it, open the refrigerator, slam it, and I'm just looking. Well, hello, you ain't say hi. Right. All right, mom, and that's when I have to pull the wig off, stand up. First of all, who you talking to? Second of all, check your attitude. Why are you angry? And then I help him, you know, go through those motions, and then he'll realize I'm not even angry. I said, see, it's that music you're listening to. Yeah, you can't discern through yet. Yeah, this is why that's important, but that's a whole nother topic. No, I love the topic.

SPEAKER_02 50:15

That is and that is where I think my heart for speaking really came from. Because even through music, music will change yours. Yes, it will everything. I have a tattoo of a mixtape and a turntable across my shoulders.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

Oh, you have you a DJ for real? You are DJ for real, right? Right. Look, you can tell by Shortorah, anything she loves, she's gonna get it tattooed on her body. She got the scripture, the music. Listen, listen.

SPEAKER_02 50:39

Yes, yes. I have music notes all over my shoulder. So it's funny for you to say the the preacher's wife type. Um, because it's like, yeah, as long as you come in for some real ministry. Come on. We got some real ministry for you over here. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 50:55

And I and I get it, and I get it. That means like your brand and it speaks, you know, even when you're not speaking, like even how you came in, so poised, just so, you know what I mean? And the confidence is just speaking so no. I love your development. I didn't know you before this, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't always this. But I can tell you, you're on the right path. You're doing it because it's speaking for you.

unknown 51:17

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

And that is amazingly amazing. Listen, y'all. I enjoyed this conversation. And I know there is much more connection that we have to, you know, get the rapping about, and we're definitely going to do that. Um, but if y'all, um, if y'all are still watching, first of all, thank you. Thank you. But let us know in the comments um what what resonated with you the most? Like, what can you relate to the most? Like I know she shared um a lot about her and what it is that she does, um, especially about her purpose and finding her purpose. And that's the most important thing that I like to put out there on my platform and to anyone. What is your purpose? Why are you doing what you do? You know, why have God called you to do this? Understand that, and you will never stop pushing that needle forward. Nothing is going to stop you from getting to that once you understand it. Stop jumping into things, then we ain't got no business jumping into things. But I do want you to jump into Lee Shake Capri, though. Lee Shake Capri, um, go to the website right now. You can get your bags on discount 20% off by using the code HUDLE that's H-U-D-D-L-E and get your designer bags. Shout out to our sponsor. And I want you to also go to a home from Shauna Foundation where they are actively accepting donations for their um their baby uh block party baby shower for their block party baby shower. Make sure you tap it with them. The links will be in the description below. If you did not know, the Huddle is an official sponsor for that foundation for a home for Shauna, where they provide emergency housing for women, pregnant women in need. Um, so shout out to them, shout out to Cleo and her whole team. Um, and before we get out of here, again, thank you, Shitorah, for joining me. Is there anything that you want to say to our audience? Make sure you drop how they can get in contact with you, how they can work with you, um, and just pour into them. This is your moment. Let's go. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 53:15

So, um, first off, I'll say catch CEO Rewired, entrepreneur, get your ish together. That is my book that we'll be releasing next month in July. Um, I am so happy with how the book has come about. If you are in the entrepreneurial space, you desire to be in the entrepreneurial space, or even if you're already making multiple six figures, that is a book to really go to and it's a guide. You really you can come back and check yourself with the book. Yes. Um, you can check that out on my website at your businessrewire.com. You can even download chapter one for free. Um, but I would say to everyone, and and I'll give you a quick little story if I can. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

unknown 54:03

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 54:03

I was in the car two days ago, and I went to Texas Roadhouse and got the the bread with the butter.

SPEAKER_01 54:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 54:12

I thought you was gonna say the uh the onion balm. I love I love the onion balms.

SPEAKER_01 54:15

The onions.

SPEAKER_02 54:16

Yes. I'm in the car, and I had the piece of bread, and I sat it inside of the butter, and I'm driving, and my son calls, I tap the screen, hands-free, y'all tap the screen, and I'm talking, and then I started looking around for the butter. I'm looking around for my bread. I don't know where it is, and it was right there, still in my hand. And I do that same thing with my phone. People do it with their glasses, do it with their glasses right there. And if there's any lesson to take from that, is when you're trying to find out where things are, where you're supposed to be going, what you're supposed to be doing, start with what's in your hands.

SPEAKER_01 55:03

Yes, use what's in your hands. I love that message. I love that message. Thank you. Yes, give it up for Satoria, y'all. Give it up for Satoria. Thank you so much again, Queen, for joining me. Thank you for pouring into the space. I would love to have you back. Um, definitely, definitely, I'm going to contact you about um to share more about the conference with you because I would love to have your presence there. Like, I just felt like this was this was good. This was good. This is good. But you all, thank you so much for joining. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. I cannot tell you how much people consume social media and do not subscribe or like or follow. Stay in touch with us. Stay in tune with the huddle. Hit that subscribe button and always remember crowns on, chins up, and you rock the rest of your week. Have a good one.