Ep 30: What every working mom needs while building a business ft. Trunae Green

In this episode of The Mompreneur Huddle, I sit down with Trunae Green, founder of Moms Babies Business, to talk about balancing motherhood, business, and self-care. With three kids under 10, she shares how she manages transitions, prioritizes health and wealth, and helps moms juggle building a brand while being present at home.

Corporate Support for Working Moms – the urgent need for companies to create policies that actually support mothers in the workplace.

On-Site Daycare Solutions – encouraging corporations to provide free or affordable childcare during work hours, and noting it could be written off as a business expense.

Extended Maternity Leave – calling out the short six-week leave as unrealistic since moms’ bodies and minds aren’t fully healed.

Lactation and Nursing Spaces – emphasizing the importance of proper breastfeeding rooms instead of overlooking mothers’ needs.

Representation and Empathy in Leadership – pointing out that many decision-makers don’t share the same struggles as working moms.

Humanity and Compassion – reminding companies that supporting mothers isn’t just good policy, it’s about basic respect for people.

Starting a Movement – the call to action to begin advocating for systemic change for working mothers.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to another episode of the Montana Huddle Podcast where motherhood meets entrepreneurship and we talk about everything in between.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Girl, you the boss, my baby girl, you so work with girl, you the boss, my making everything worth it, girl. You the boss, my stand on all of your business, and when it comes to investment, baby girl, you the red girl, you the boss, mom. Yeah, I like that right there.

unknown 0:27

I like that right there.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Today I have the beautiful, the amazing, Miss Trune Green with me in the house today. What's up, girl? Hey Tammy. How are you? I'm doing it. I'm glad you made it. Me too. I'm glad you made it. Me too. I'm about to blow your spot up though. Trune was supposed to come on another day and couldn't. And she's like, Tammy, I need to reschedule. I'm like, it's fine, girl. Come on. But I'm so glad she made it because I just loved her energy when we did our screening. So welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Tell the audience a little bit about you.

SPEAKER_03 1:04

So I am an entrepreneur.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 1:07

I'm a mom of three under 10. Yes. I am a wife. I'm also a doctoral student. So that is keeping my brain pretty busy these days.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Listen, she's stressing me out, and we ain't even in a minute in yet.

SPEAKER_03 1:23

Right, right. I own mom's babies business. Yes. And basically, it's a brand I created to help simplify mom life, right? Because there's so many components to it. And I wanted to use all my experience, everything that I learned, everything that I'm learning in school right now on how to better support us moms. Okay. You know, and so through digital products, um, through the research that I'm learning while I'm in school, and just finding resources that will help moms be able to prioritize self-care, yes, wellness. You know, um, last year I found myself towards the end of the year, like rushing to try to squeeze all my appointments in.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

And I'm like, that's crazy. I made sure everybody was good. Except for you. Except for me. I'm trying to squeeze in Dr.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

Dennis' eye appointment. And I was like, this is crazy. This ain't working. Yeah, so um I ended up launching the mom self-care workbook as a result of that. Okay. Because I needed a system. I was like, I need a system to make sure I'm staying on track with self-care, with my wellness, and just being more intentional.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Yes. So with the workbook, is an active workbook where take us through that workbook. What is it with?

SPEAKER_03 2:42

Okay. So it basically I have a health tracker where moms are able to either um on their digital device or you can print it, whatever works for you. You're able to keep track of all your appointments, make sure that you've made the appointments. Okay. You are able to keep track with how much water you're taking in on a daily basis, making sure that you're tracking your meals.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Like so, this is the this is the tracker for the mommy to stay on top of mommy stuff. Okay. It's for them typically. Because I'm like, wait, so they're gonna help manage the kids, he's gonna go to school. This is mommy. This is all about moms.

SPEAKER_03 3:17

It's all like the whole workbook from beginning to end is to make sure they are taking care of themselves. Yeah. Because I talked to too many moms that say, girl, I forgot to eat today. I looked up, like that was me today. Exactly. So, you know, that workbook helps, you know, to make sure you can look and see and see, okay, I only ate breakfast or I haven't eaten anything today. But it's just a way to help us, you know, be more intentional because if we're like that, we're not at our best, we can't take care of anybody. Girl, when we at our best, we can't take care of people. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

So, but what what do you think the hardest, I guess, transition in and trying to balance or manage it all for moms? What is the hardest thing? Like, why do we forget ourselves?

SPEAKER_03 3:56

Tammy, I think it's just the fact that sometimes we get really consumed in motherhood. Like, I have these humans that God bless me with to make sure they're taken care of. And yes, you do. However, it's like you have to find a way to still realize that they're going to be good if you take a second and say, okay, I need a break. I need to step away, I need to take a day and have an appointment for myself, like all of these things. But I think it's just a matter of sometimes thinking, especially with society, they put these pressures on moms that you have to be taking care of your kids 24-7. And if you're not, you're not considered a good mom, you're not considered doing what you're supposed to do, right? You're not considering. Because she's not present, she's not doing all the things.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

And that's Tammy, that's just not true. It ain't true. And they don't see, they don't see the work you do behind the scenes, right? They don't and we feel like we gotta prove to the world that we are this mom and we're burning ourselves out. Jeez, yes. On both ends. I can't, so you have three under 10. Yeah, yes, let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 5:16

So Tammy, she said yes. That has that has been uh such an interesting journey, especially now. Um, having a 10-year-old and then a six-year-old and an eight-year-old. The 10-year-old is now stepping into that phase, right? That teenage and and trying to support him while explaining to my other two, hey, sometimes he's gonna need some time alone. In his space, he still loves you, he still wants to spend time with you.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

He got his own friends now. Yes, he can do things you can't do. Exactly. Maybe he can stay out a little bit later. Maybe he can go around the corner and play with his friends, but you can't.

SPEAKER_03 5:54

So, you know, that that balance, having two boys and a girl, that's a different dynamic as well, right? And then kind of also being in that place where I realize I don't have babies anymore. Like for the longest, Tammy, with all my kids being two years apart, for at least six years, the first six years, I had just all toddlers.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Toddler. Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 6:21

That was it for six years. And so now at that phase we we've transitioned out of that phase, it's been bittersweet for me. And I found myself I miss it. I miss it. It's like it, it's a it's like I'm in this weird space where it's like it's exciting to see the new milestones and see them grow. At the same time, there's this part of me that is sad sometimes to see, you know, that part.

SPEAKER_01 6:47

I I see that part. It's that part like they're really growing up.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

Yeah, they're really growing up.

SPEAKER_01 6:51

Yeah, but I was just telling, I was just telling um Money today. I w I went into my son's room, yeah, and I was he took my bottle of lotions, so I had to go in there and get it. Um but he he's he'll be 17.

unknown 7:04

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

And just the things that I see in his room, I'm like, okay, I need to get out of here. Because I forget he's he's coming into a man now. And it's like my baby, right? Baby. So I get what you mean. Yeah, but girl, I can't wait until he's in the college. I just pray that you know God is in him enough that we installed it in them enough that they're gonna make the right decisions for them. For them. But it is definitely bittersweet. It's scary though. It is scary.

SPEAKER_03 7:37

Tammy, and that's I'm glad you bring that up. I think more moms should talk about that. Like we should have more conversations about that. Yes, because um, we need that type of support too. And the moms who've already crossed that milestone, like we need your support as we navigate that and those feelings and emotions because it's a lot of unknowns as well.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

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SPEAKER_04 9:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:40

But the society has the majority of the day when they're like when school is is active, but between school and social clubs, right? Sports teams, everything that they're exposed to, like, do you find it difficult keeping them rooted in age?

SPEAKER_03 10:00

Tammy, to be honest with you, if I didn't have the support of my parents and the support of our church, I will say our church has created this family atmosphere. Yes. And they've created so many different groups and entities and things to really help keep your kids, no matter what stage, locked in. Yeah, they got things to do. And so, Tammy, we have them there. Like several days out the week. We there. We are there. Yes. So that plays a huge part, Tammy. I I would say absent that I don't, I know it would be way more challenging.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 10:44

Absent, absent that, that element.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

So that community, that covering is definitely important. How do they react to that? Because I know I I had to kind of push my kids into church events and and being active on different ministries. How do they react to that?

SPEAKER_03 11:00

Tammy, you know, it it's it's so unique, right? So I so I'm a PK.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:07

Okay, and so um I was I've always been very involved in ministry and all the things. Because you grew up with it. You ain't got no choice. You ain't got no choice when you're PK. You know, they they they were really brought into that same vein. But to your point, as they've gotten older and they are learning more about who God is for themselves, right? And have their own personalities and perspectives, I found Tammy, that they are being drawn to their passions within the ministry. So my son, my oldest son, he is he's a a child prodigy. I'm just gonna be honest, Tammy. Like music-wise, yes, he is a proficient organ player, proficient trombone player. Nice um, drums, like is playing like an adult. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

So you see it in real time, the development, and it's like I I love that so much because it's instilled in them. And like you said, coming into your own, that's what we want to see. We want to see them come into their own in a positive way because it's so hard. Like there is a spiritual warfare on all of our kids, on us. Yes, but on our kids because we're so overprotective, and it's like you want them to make the right decisions, you want them to go the right way. And it's like to see them want to do that, it's just like amazing.

SPEAKER_03 12:30

Yeah, Tammy, that's exciting to watch. And they all three of them. My middle son, he plays drums. My youngest daughter plays drums, but their their oldest brother, they watched him, he led the way. Okay, and so our church has opened that space for them to be free in their gifts, you know. So you can catch him playing organ on a Sunday with the adult band. Like he's killing it.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Look, he got there, keeping it up.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

It's it's and you know what, Tammy, what I will also add to, our husband, excuse me, my husband and I, we've been very intentional about the screen time.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 13:10

Because we notice, yeah, like we we notice that if you don't stay on top of that, that will be what your kids learn everything from. Yeah, girl.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

You know, I learned the hard way. I learned the hard way. I look I'm guys still working on me in that area. That's okay, Tammy. With the screen time. Um it's just it's just so like it's everywhere. It's everywhere. It is everywhere. It's like, goodness, okay, I gotta keep these kids out here. Oh my god. Are they exposed to um are they exposed to the brands are uh to the brand you have, mom baby's business? Are they exposed to it? Do they understand what it is you're doing?

SPEAKER_03 13:47

Yes, Tammy. I talk to them about it a lot. Okay, um, it's so it's so funny because my my daughter, like if you ask her, what does mommy do? She's saying, you know, she does mom's babies' business. Period. And then Tammy, I wanted to also use it as a way to expose them to entrepreneurship earlier. Yeah, so I've done like pop-ups and been a vendor, and I have like products, journals, and t-shirts and things like that.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Wait, that's getting to the involvement first. I mean, because like we talked about your your first your first workbook. Yeah, how has it evolved over the years? I know that's exciting. Like just to see, like I started from the bottom, y'all, and now I have a plethora of things. Like, like, how does that feel? Tell me, amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:31

And I'm gonna be honest with you, mom's baby's business is my passion.

SPEAKER_01 14:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 14:36

I started off as the true brand agency.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:40

And y'all can strike that off the record. Um, but I I started off with that about eight years ago, and it was mainly focused on public relations. Okay. 90% of my clients were musicians in Atlanta.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:56

And Tammy, it was one of those things. I went to school for communications and public relations, so I knew how to do it, but I I just did enjoy it. It wasn't your calling. No, and it came to a point where I was like, I don't enjoy this, but I want to figure out what it is that God He really wants me to do. Because I know He He wants me to be happy about what it is that I'm doing, you know? And so I just took some time off. I took some time off to really think about it, pray about it. And my first son came into the picture, and the next thing you know, mom's baby's business unfolded. And it was like, wow. And so what started off as really trying to lock in into what I wanted to do with that and what my passion would be, and starting off with physical products, it made that pivot into really finding my niche in my area. Yeah. So that's that's been exciting.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

So what do you think? Okay, because we always get into every entrepreneur experiences, I'm sure. We get into something a lane, I call it figuring it out, and there's nothing wrong with figuring it out. Get into a lane where we think we want this, but we're not called to it. And once we're not called to it, it's okay to stop, right? Yeah, but what did that teach you? What did you agency teach you that you're applying or that you think like, like, what was he trying to teach you in that season? Because you started it for a reason.

SPEAKER_03 16:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

Right.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

So what did you bring from that that you're applying to my baby business?

SPEAKER_03 16:28

Tammy, the first thing I would say is discipline.

SPEAKER_01 16:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:32

Right? Because that was my jumping head first. Like, I literally I had finished getting my bachelor's from Georgia State. Then I went back to school.

SPEAKER_01 16:41

Georgia State.

unknown 16:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:44

And then I went and decided to get my master's degree from LaSalle.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:49

And then was, you know, applying like crazy, applying like crazy, and wasn't landing anything. And I'm like, what? I have a master's degree.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

I have all this decolade. Like, what? I got that. But that'd be the pipe dream that they give us in college, though. Exactly. That'd be the pipe dream. Ooh, that was the reality shit. Girl, girl. I was like, oh girl. This ain't how it to be.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

I was like, this is wild. So um, I was like, well, Tammy, I can't just wait. I can't just sit around. Right. I'm like, and so my father, he's been an entrepreneur for over 45 years. He's a graphic designer and amazing. So I watched him and my mom build, grind, hustle from the beginning. I was like, man, I'm just about to start my own agency. I'm about to just go for it. And so during that time, Tammy, that's when I started learning the lessons, right? Learning about having systems, like all the things, like was learning it in real time. And so having that part of business, like having the acumen and understanding all of the things that I needed to have in place, coming into mom's baby's business, I was coming into it already. Yep, I'ma have my systems in place. I'm having in place, and now I can focus on the fun part. Yeah. You know, just creating the content and all the things. I love it. Wait, is is that fun for you creating content? You know, Sammy, it it depends on on the mood that I'm in. The fun part. Sammy, you need to pray right now for my consistency.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Now we're gonna pray. We I mean keep you, we're gonna lift up. Lift me up. To lift you up. Because baby, that's a whole nother non-espective different job. So much. Girl, girl, never knew. I'm like, this is a lot of people. What so what because of where social media is going and all the trends, and do you feel like you have to keep up?

SPEAKER_03 18:57

Tammy, I felt that way, but I'm gonna be honest with you. I have found in the last six months the last three clients that God blessed me to have, they didn't come through the social media, content. Like it wasn't in the way that people perceive it. Right. Right? Like it was relationships, um networking, word of mouth, you know what I'm saying? And though I've had some clients in the past year come through things that I've done online, well, Tammy, it was things that I did already. So we're talking about they went and binged LinkedIn posts that I done on previous, right? It wasn't because I was on there posting. Because it's still relevant.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Like the message doesn't change. It doesn't change. Imagine, like, if you if you refer it to the textbook that that they use in school, yeah, they may upgrade or have a different edition, but the the the message, the lesson doesn't change. Your posts, your content that you posted a year ago may very still be relevant to what you're doing right now. Right now. And we feel like we have to keep like just doing it. Like, no. No, I'm gonna say what my coach told me. Let's say what my coach told me. And it opened my eyes so much when she told me that she said, You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. And that was just so simple. And I'm like, I knew that though. Like, I we're so quick to say, at a job or anywhere, I ain't doing that. I'm grown. But why are we not the same way when it comes to trying to keep up with trends? I don't want to do that. No, I'm grown. I know my value. Yes, I know what I provide. Yes, right, and that's gonna speak for itself. And furthermore, you were called as a mantle to be over a certain selected few people. I don't need the masses, I don't need 50 billion and 40 billion. Just give me my couple 50 hundred. Why? Because they're gonna bring me others, you know what I mean? Like, you don't need you are called to lead a selective pack. Yeah, a selective few. No, you're right.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

I'm okay with that. You're right, Tammy with that. I'm okay with that too.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

So, how how do you balance mommyhood, being a wife, your business, and you time? How do you balance all of that?

SPEAKER_03 21:20

Tammy, for me, I've had to like schedule that time. Okay. And I used to be the person where I would hear about people saying, Oh, I gotta put it on my calendar. Like, what?

unknown 21:31

What?

SPEAKER_03 21:33

Yeah, Tammy. And then reality hit me hard, and I was like, Oh, that's it now. I see it now. I do have to put it on my calendar.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

Yeah, Tammy.

SPEAKER_03 21:43

So I'll I'll I'll have like a reminder, um, or just have in my mind, like, okay, I know at this time on these days, I'm gonna step away and you know, journal or do my Bible reading or play a game. Games, Tammy. Like that's something that I've talked about in my content. About how I found playing a game. It was just it provided self-care. Yeah. It took down any stress. It took my mind off of all the things that needed to be done, you know, and just gave me a moment to just kind of reset. So just finding little pockets. And that's what I encourage moms to do. Find small pockets. Like nobody is saying try and try and take a week off to go to a spa. Though we would love that saying.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Small pockets, though, Trine. Small pockets. They will lead to that. I had to delete. Now I was I it was this puzzle game. Yeah. Um, I forget the name of it, but I just recently deleted it from my phone because I would use that as a at first it started off as a I need to get my mental off of work because I'm doing too much. Let me just go digress. Let me let me go. Yeah. But girl, did I find myself on that game for an hour? Then the next day for two hours. And then I'm like, I'm all the way up to level 300. I'm like, how did I get there? Like, no, delete it. Yeah, yeah. Because now you're just gonna get it all together. Yeah. So you gotta be careful for those pockets too. But I do think that's very important.

SPEAKER_04 23:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Because you're gonna burn out either way. Yeah. You're gonna burn out either way. So let's talk more about self-care and wellness. Yeah, let's talk more about that. What are some things that you still do besides the little small pockets? What are some actual things that you do for yourself to um um increase your self-care time or your your wellness time?

SPEAKER_03 23:35

So, Tammy, I think especially, you know, if you are married or have a partner, I think it's important to communicate or whoever you have as your support in your village to say, hey, like I need this time. And so we've been intentional about that. You know, my husband, he encourages me to, yeah, just just just leave the house. You know, just just go. And so I look like Tammy, I love, I'm a girl's girl, so I love getting pampered and hairs, makeup, all the things, you know, like I enjoy that. So like going to get my nails done. Yeah, something that I already was planning to do, but making it a thing, right? Going to the store, like to just even if I'm not actively shopping, but just being in the store and just having that time. A little iced coffee, or you know, a friend date that we've been putting off for six, eight months. Yeah, let's finally make that.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

You don't know how much you need that until you're in it.

SPEAKER_03 24:36

Until you're in it. Until you're in it.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Because we put it off like when my girlfriends, they were recently just down here for my birthday in June. Shout out to my girlfriends. Um, but they came and I did not realize how much I missed those outings until it was there because I was just so consumed with everything. Like I was good, but it's like, yo, I really needed this weekend. Yeah, yeah. I really there was no work, there was no no kids, no stress. Like, we just had fun, we ate good foods, we was in Atlanta. It was like, yo, like, give me another weekend.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

So can I get another one?

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Yes. I I I commend your your husband for being that support to say, hey, go. Yeah. Because um, unfortunately, there's not a lot of people who have that or or who have that release, right? What is your advice to them? The people who the moms who don't have support because you're gonna you're gonna get yeah, you're you're gonna get all types of moms. Right. All types of moms. We don't get to choose who we get to help.

SPEAKER_03 25:31

What is your advice to them? So, Tammy, the first thing I would do is tell them to really sit down and list out who they would consider their village to be.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:44

Right. Okay. That might be one person. I don't know. That might be a neighbor, um, but whoever that person is that you trust, yes, um, and you know, pray over that list that you make, you know, and then have start having those conversations and say, hey, you know, like um, I I care about you, I trust you, I feel like we have this type of relationship. You know, I want to be more intentional. I need to start creating more of these moments. Yeah, you know, so I want to come alongside you. How can like how can we make this work?

SPEAKER_01 26:16

How can right?

SPEAKER_03 26:17

And so now you're not coming to them saying, hey, I need you to, but you're coming to them like, hey, this is what I'm trying to create. Right. And um, it gives them an opportunity to now say, well, you know what?

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Actually, on Mondays, I'm free. I ain't even doing nothing. I'm free, I'm not even doing nothing.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

Like we don't know because we never opened that conversation. We don't have those conversations, Tammy. We don't know. Our village be right there. God, like I gave them to you, but you ain't talking.

SPEAKER_03 26:43

And Tammy, the other part of it is we're not quick to ask for help. It's not that we don't want help, it's just by nature, moms, like we just do it.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

Yeah, we do it. We just make it good. Yes, and we get so used to it that it just becomes like autopilot. Like autopilot.

SPEAKER_03 27:03

And before you know it, we look up and it's like, okay, I'm on empty now. Yeah, I need somebody to help me. Yeah, so yeah, like, you know, taking time and asking for help, having conversations, we'll be surprised by the people we're having them with. Like, I was just waiting for you to just I didn't know. I thought you were.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

I didn't know. I didn't know. What are some non-negotiables when it comes to your wellness journey? What are you not negotiating with?

SPEAKER_03 27:31

Exercise, Tammy. You exercise every day? Tammy, I exercise at least two times a week.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 27:37

Yeah. Um, and I appreciate having a husband who is very fit, very active. It's motivation. Yes, it is motivation for sure. Um, there's times where I'm like, I need to work work out, but I don't feel like it. And I know he's like, I'm going to work out. And so, you know, he'll pull me alongside him. And then I've created a community of other moms. Nice. It was like, yep, girl, we need to, you know, we need to work out. So that exercise to me, like as we get older, we just gotta like, I want to be here for my children.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

It's it's mandatory. Yeah, it is. It is mandatory.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

So that has to happen.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

And what I learned, because I I don't know if you know, I used to be almost 600 pounds. Tell me what are you talking about? So what I've learned, like even now, I was kicking myself in the butt because I ain't been in the gym in like two months now.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:25

And I'm like, all right, when where you go? You've been partying. Right? When you gonna get back in it, you know, because now you're 40. Now you're 40. And look, that 40, uh, that 40 word. I'm like, because I turned 40. I don't know if it's just me, but my knees is hurting. Oh, it's just me, my body hurting. And I was just at uh I was at uh praise and worship practice last night. They was like, no, you was out partying. That's all that is. But I say that to say it's like it's gonna, we're gonna get older. Like, time don't stop. Time don't stop. Two months went by and I ain't been in the gym.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

Like, time don't like you said, Sammy, the time just it's gonna keep going.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

So, yes, that that that is definitely, it has to be a non-negotiable.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Um, the older we get, like you said, we want to be here.

SPEAKER_03 29:06

We want to be here. We want to be here. That's so important. And then, Tammy, like, also, like, I know that when I I I feel like I look my best, yeah, I feel you on top of the world.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

You on top of the world. Can't nobody tell me nothing.

SPEAKER_03 29:24

Tammy, that's another non-negotiable. I'm like, no, I make sure these kids, you know, head to toe, they, they, they're they're great. They're put together. I'm like, no, this is yes, this is gonna be a non-negotiable for me. I'm not worried about what anybody else is doing. But this mom over here, I'm I'm gonna make sure that it's all put together because I feel my best and I can give my best when I feel.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

And your children, and your children can feel when you're not at your best.

SPEAKER_03 29:54

Yes, tell me.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

Tell me, and they'll tell you too.

SPEAKER_03 29:56

Like my daughter, when I before I got my hair done earlier today. What'd she say? She said, she said, ooh, ma. Not the ooh ma. Yeah, tell me. And then when she saw it done, she said, now, mom, that's that's an improvement. First of all, little girl.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

First of all, little girl. I I I can have off day. No, but kids, but they have a way of they like it was my son who made me realize he's like, Mom, you ain't been in the gym in forever. It's been too much, but okay, like don't call me. But they be the reality check that we need. Yeah, they be that they that conviction that we need because it's like, yep, who else are we around all day, every day? Who see us at every state? Who see us at our most vulnerable? Like, besides our meet, our kids do, right? Yeah, and we don't realize that they pick up on every single thing. So our procrastination, right?

SPEAKER_03 30:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

It's it that it's funneling to them if we don't jump back, right? So I when they they now, now, how they check us, how they check us, oh Tammy, maybe a little, then we're gonna have to have a conversation. But I I listened to the message first, yeah, and then I attack the the two later. But the message was Tammy, you know you ain't been up on your game. You know, Trunette, you know your hair should have been done. Like, what all right, I'm gonna handle her later, but let me go get my hair. Let's go get my hair done first. Yeah, that part. That part motherhood is such a joy, isn't it? It is, Tammy. Are you seeing the difference in how how your kids are growing differently? Even though they're into like the same thing, they're into the you got them in the church, into music, but they still have their own personality.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

They do. And you're seeing it, right?

SPEAKER_01 31:40

You're seeing it. Who's the most high maintenance?

SPEAKER_03 31:43

Oh, Tammy, my daughter by far. Your daughter? Oh, Tammy. She was in the nail shop with me yesterday. And look, was ready to go. Her nails was done.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

Oh, she's gonna wait for you now. Uh-uh. I'm like, who girl reason? Right, who reason?

SPEAKER_03 32:02

Yes, yes, yes, Tammy. By far, my daughter. She all the things, and it's so funny because she has both sides. So she has this like real girly feminine side.

SPEAKER_02 32:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

Then she has that tomboy side because she has two brothers. Right. She can get down and play football.

SPEAKER_01 32:20

Is she older? Is she the oldest or the youngest? She's the youngest. Okay. Oh, so yeah, she definitely, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you're like me, the two older boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. So, so okay, so she's the high maintenance. Are they the protectors? Are they overprotective?

SPEAKER_03 32:34

Tammy, I would say.

SPEAKER_01 32:36

Because they're still young, but still, they still got their, you know.

SPEAKER_03 32:39

Yeah. I would say both of them are protectors. My oldest would probably be the most protective. So if she says, hey, you know, this person was messing with me at camp, he's like, who? Who?

SPEAKER_04 32:54

Where?

SPEAKER_03 32:56

What's up?

unknown 32:57

What's that name?

SPEAKER_03 32:58

So yeah, yeah, and I I love seeing that diamond. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

Who's up under you the most?

SPEAKER_03 33:04

Ooh, Tammy, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

Look, all of them? Right. Because I'm sitting here right now and I'm like, Well, especially the husband. Look. He'd be many. Give me my time.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

Look. Yeah, Tammy. It it seems like my oldest, I've noticed he's been really up under me a lot more. And it's it's different to me. And I realize that it's just a part of him just, you know, growing up and just just kind of discovering some things. But it's, you know, it's in a very mature way. So I'm just trying to like, I'm like, this is different. Yeah, this is new.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

Yes, yes. How are you going to? Because I our businesses are always a reflection of who we are in our personal lives. And as they're getting older, you are becoming a new type of mom. Like you're not the same mom as you were when they were two, four, and six. Now I have to become Trune of these teenagers. So because I'm transitioning, there's moms who's transitioning.

SPEAKER_02 34:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

How do you see the business developing to support those moms that's going to be in this new era?

SPEAKER_03 34:17

Honestly, Tammy, I see it being to where I can offer more.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

You know, so it's like I, as I move into these different spaces as my kids grow, I still want to give them all the things I learned from those chapters that have now closed.

SPEAKER_02 34:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

And now provide you where I am now. So I just see it, it provides more growth for me, and it will provide more opportunities for me to just offer more.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

Yes. How do you keep yourself grounded though? Like, how do you not get distracted with the actual mission? Because there's so much that we want to do. There's so many things that we can do.

SPEAKER_03 35:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

How do you keep yourself grounded in your mission?

SPEAKER_03 35:05

Honestly, Tammy, I would say just remembering that there are moms who need exactly what it is that I'm providing, I'm offering them. Like they are down to the detail looking for what I'm offering them. You know, and so I feel like if I find myself trying to do all the things, then those moms that are looking specifically for me, they'll get lost in the show. You know, it's like trying to have multiple target audiences. It's just not a thing. We gotta focus and lock in, you know, on that specific target audience so they know we are talking to them. And so I always keep that in my mind. Like, okay, I can offer more things, but it still has to stay aligned with that specific message, that mission that I started off with. I need to come underneath that. I need to figure out a way to branch from under that main umbrella.

SPEAKER_01 36:17

Even if it looks like just not creating something new, but just building this out more. Yes. Building it out more. What how can I add more value?

SPEAKER_02 36:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Tierwise or whatever. So we think a lot of the time that it has to be quantity. We have to have a lot. We have to do this. I want 50 courses. I want to know your one course can can you can live off of one course if you build it out the right way. You can live off that for the rest of your life.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

Right.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

Because the message never changes. And there will be always someone new who never heard it.

unknown 36:59

Right.

SPEAKER_01 36:59

Never heard it. This is why people go back and read true to the game and read all the uh see. I I I used to write urban fiction. Wow. Um, huh? I said wow. Yes, yes, and a whole publishing company. I used to write urban fiction novels. Um now it's it's more of um devotional, journals, self-help. Okay. Um, my purpose. Yeah. Right? I don't I don't pollute the environment anymore. Not that it's a pollution. I mean, no, not to anybody, but those type of novels, I used to always wonder how those books that was written in the 80s and the 90s, how they were sustained. And it wasn't, and these are authors that wrote just one book. One book. And we were we were reading these one books in 2011, 2012, and they were written in the 90s. How do we how how do they sustain that? Because the value is there. Yeah they didn't need 50 million books. When you look at authors today in the same industry, they got a library of maybe 50, literally 50 books, but no one's heard about them. Yeah, no one, they haven't reached the people because they're so focused on trying to get something new out, yeah, opposed to building this one baby.

unknown 38:14

One baby, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

Building this one baby. And it's so much easier to do that.

SPEAKER_03 38:17

Uh yeah, Tammy. It's so much easier just to focus on that.

SPEAKER_01 38:20

Just to focus on this one thing. Good. Your brain is good. Any um, I'm gonna ask you the question. Okay. Any any plan for another one, baby number four?

SPEAKER_03 38:31

Tammy, no plans.

SPEAKER_01 38:33

No plans.

SPEAKER_03 38:34

Uh that's true.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

That's what Trune's saying. Well, let me say this.

SPEAKER_03 38:38

It would be uh, you know, our my husband and I, we have talked about later down the line, like being open to adoption.

SPEAKER_01 38:46

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 38:47

Oh no, you know, we're we're we are open, nice you know, to see whatever plan that God has, you know, for our family.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

Amen. You know, do you know anyone who's adopted? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 39:00

Okay, yes, have a very close friend, adopted twins.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

Nice, yeah, so I love it when someone else can be a blessing to a child that's already here. Because I I I did not know I knew that it was a problem, right? I knew I know that there's a lot of children without homes. But when you sit and either binge the content about it or actually do the research, it's eye-opening, it's alarming, it's very scary how many children without families that are just here in Atlanta. We're not talking about the whole world, just here. And I'm like, wow, like it's it's really something else. It is, it is really something else. And I wish more people would deep dive into that or experience or explore um and really hear or really learn about it because the stereotype behind it is like I don't want to get this kid, and then they ruin my household or that, but no, it's like every situation is not a bad situation, it is never a bad situation, and you have to be centered and covered and grounded to pour into these kids because that's what they need. They're used to people giving up on them. So, no, if y'all do that, like I commend you. If that is what's in your future, I commend you for that. I do. What's next for you though? What's next for what's next for the business? What's what's coming?

SPEAKER_03 40:24

So, Tammy, I am actively working on creating more um digital products. Okay. So more, more ebooks.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

What about some outside events? Are you are you are you going to in-person events? Tammy, hopefully so. Bring it out. I need I need I need a fitness. I need a fitness program. Yeah. Listen, we're going, we're gonna plan something right now on the show. We're gonna do a wellness come on, Tammy.

SPEAKER_03 40:49

A wellness yoga something. I wanna come. That would be amazing. Um, especially having a lot of friends in the wellness space, like doctors, nurses, all the things. Um yeah, we could definitely do something really, really dope like that.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

I I could see you on the stage. Tammy, I would love to speak. Yeah, I would I would love that.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

But why don't you? You're right, Tammy. I need to really put yourself out there. I would say that. So I honestly, to be honest with you, I have not really put myself out there. Okay. And it's not because I'm afraid to.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 41:25

I just school, Tammy. Woo! It's doctoral program. Man, it's you almost done though. I'm almost done, Tammy. Next year I'm gonna be that P sign up. But um, man, Tammy, it takes a it takes up a lot of time.

SPEAKER_01 41:43

So what okay now? What was the plan? I know like continuing your education is always a plus. I love it. Learn as much as you can, go as high as you can. Yeah, that wasn't my my destiny. Um, but I commend every anyone who does. But when they are in the entrepreneurial space as well, I always ask, What's next? Like, are you gonna pursue because whatever you do, something's gonna lack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? You do all the schooling, you get all the degrees, and then the opportunity comes in maybe the corporate world where it requires all of your focus, but you've been building over here. Yeah. Or vice versa, you're done with school and now you're focused on this, right, and then you don't put your degree to to use, any use. What like where are you with that? What what do you Tammy?

SPEAKER_03 42:32

Honestly, I one of my larger goals for mom's babies business is that I want to be able to go into different corporations and organizations and show them how they can better support their working mothers there. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Like that's literally that is the main goal, and it's been my goal for a while. And so as I've been in school, I've been actively researching, like looking at the data and what it says about these working moms.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

For starters, they need to have daycare centers. A lot of these corporate need to have offered daycare, at least for, I know they have some organization that's 24-7, but at least for the nine to five hours for your employees, have a daycare center. Yes, have a daycare center. And don't charge them an arm and a leg. Like you want them to come and show up to work. They're stressing because they don't have child care or got to pay for child care. It's nothing for them to have a free child care program for because they write it off. Yep, it's nothing. We're always companies are always looking for expenses each year. They have budgets.

SPEAKER_04 43:41

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 43:41

Put a budget in for a daycare center, have it free for your working moms, and you just you get people come to work all the time. Right. I don't have to deal with that anymore. Like, listen, we need to start that movement. We need to start that movement.

SPEAKER_03 43:53

Sammy, because it's needed, you know. Even when you hear about moms, um, the the the time that they give. Off for maternity leave. It's it's not enough time. Crazy.

SPEAKER_01 44:04

Six weeks. Your body's not even fully.

SPEAKER_03 44:08

That has to end, Tammy. That not having a place to properly breastfeed.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

And y'all have eight million offices in here. Yes. And you telling me you can't create a space because you haven't thought about it.

SPEAKER_01 44:20

Right. They don't have to think about it. Right. They don't have to think about it. Most people that our demographic work for are not our demographic. No. Our struggles are not their struggles, right? But we are all of a child of God. If everyone, and there's only one God, I don't care what religion you are, there's only one God. If we are of a child of God, that's one vital thing that we should not be overlooking. It doesn't matter where we come from, it doesn't matter how we grew up, it doesn't matter what ethnicity. This is still a human person, there's still a parent. They still we should always take that into consideration, but we don't.

SPEAKER_03 44:52

Nope.

SPEAKER_01 44:53

It becomes my problem, it's not your problem. In reality, it's all of our problems. Yes, Tammy.

SPEAKER_03 44:58

So yeah. Because then we gotta change that looking and see that I'm not performing at my best. I can tell you some things that would help me be able to, yeah. I can run down the list, you know. And you know, as moms, like we have this innate ability that we're that God gives us when we when we become moms. And like it unlocks. And we're just able to do a lot of things and do them well.

SPEAKER_01 45:25

Yeah by accident, too.

SPEAKER_03 45:27

Yes, and then we know what we're doing, we just do it. We're like, okay, it worked out. And the stats show up here. The stats show that these working moms are the ones kicking butt in these companies. I'm gonna work it out. Just saying, you're gonna argue with the data.

SPEAKER_01 45:43

What they say, data never lie. No, data never lie.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:48

So I I'm excited to see your growth. I'm excited to see um where where you grow to. Because I think following your calling is yeah, you're helping moms. Yeah, you're doing, um, you're showing your kids how to maneuver through not just um entrepreneurship but through through schooling, yeah, how the possibilities that you can go. But all of this is for you too. The development of you. And I get excited to think about who God is creating in this next season, who God is calling me to be in this next season. Right, yeah, yeah. The helping is exciting, right? But you ain't gonna get that pop-off Tammy that that you would have gotten back in 2016, 14, whatever. You know what I mean? I love to see the growth, and I want you to enjoy that journey.

unknown 46:41

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 46:42

Enjoy that journey, however it be in the next 10 years, the wisdom that you're gonna attain, the data, you know, because everything you do in the day-to-day is gonna be processed inside of your brain.

SPEAKER_02 46:52

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

And it shows up when we need it. Yeah, our our experience shows up when we need it, but it also makes us who we're supposed to be by answering all of these callings. So I'm excited. I'm excited to see that. Thank you. I'm gonna be tapped in with you. I am I like you. I like you next. But tell the folks how people can get in contact with you, how they can um purchase any of your products, let them know.

SPEAKER_03 47:16

Awesome. So you can get in contact with me. I am on all the socials. You can find me at mom's babies business. All one word, no caps or anything. Want to keep it simple, Tammy? Keep it simple at mom's babies business. And if you look at the link in my bio, for example, you go on Instagram, you will see that mom's self-care workbook is available for you to download um right away. You can also connect with me on LinkedIn, Tammy. I love building new relationships on LinkedIn.

SPEAKER_01 47:48

Really? Yes, I need to tap into LinkedIn. Oh, Tammy. I'm not in LinkedIn. I'm not it's I I I hear that it's a whole nother world of yes. But when I think of LinkedIn, I think of um applying for jobs and yeah, yeah, yeah. I I gotta I don't know. Maybe you can teach me because I'm not gonna. Yeah, Tammy, we can, yeah. I am not on LinkedIn. I'm on LinkedIn, but I ain't LinkedIn.

SPEAKER_03 48:08

Uh understood. Yeah, but yeah, so you can connect there. LinkedIn, Trune Green, T-R-U, N-A-E, green, just like the color. Yes. And so send me a request.

SPEAKER_01 48:18

Here we go. I'm gonna do it right now. I'm gonna do it. This was an amazing conversation.

SPEAKER_03 48:23

This was awesome, Tammy.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

It was like it was, it was it was informative, but I love your spirit. Like, she has an energy, and maybe it's being a PK kid, or maybe just I don't know, but Trune has an energy, and I feel it. And I just want to give you your flowers for that as well. Thank you. Um but thank you. Thank you for coming. Thank you for being here. Thank you for blessing the podcast and thank you for pouring into whoever this was for y'all. Please drop in the comments of what touched you the most, right? What resonated with you the most? And if it resonated with you that much, please go and follow Trune. Please go and pour into her business and go in, like I always do with everybody else, hop in her DMs. I'm volunteering her DMs too. Hop in her DM and ask her those questions. Like get to know her network because this is a part of that community building that we don't do, we don't open our mouths. So we want to stop that today. We want to stop that today. And also, I have to um, I have to uh give a shout out to our official sponsor, Leeche Capri. You can get your designer bags for the designer moms at leachercapree.com, y'all. 20% off, black own. And if you did not know, yes, I am the owner of Leeche Capri. Um use the code word HUDLE for 20% off the Amara bag, the fanny pack. And I want to just thank everyone who's been pouring into that business as well. Um, that 20% off is yours, telefriend to telefriend. And we also have a referral program. If you go to the site, check out how you can become an affiliate and how you can get incentives for just referring someone to Leeche Capri. And last but not least, um make sure you tap in with a Home from Shauna Foundation. We are the official sponsor for a Home From Shauna Foundation. Um they provide emergency housing for women who are expecting, they provide services and resources for women who are expecting. Right now, they're currently located in Philadelphia, but that does not stop you from giving, it does not stop you from looking into or sharing the word. You never know. A mom in need may need some emergency housing. So make sure you tap in with them. Their links will be in our description as well. So um, before we get up out of here, June, that was a mouthful, but you know, I gotta get that off. Yes. Um, but before we get up out of here, um, what's one thing you want to leave our audience with? Like if you can leave them with anything, piece of advice, uplift, a prayer. What is one thing that you want to leave our audience with?

SPEAKER_03 50:46

I would leave the audience with just remember that you can do all things through Christ. Talk to them.

SPEAKER_01 50:53

They're right there. Talk to them. They want him to be. Sorry, guys. I'm talking to you now.

SPEAKER_03 50:57

Just remember you can do all things through Christ. Um, don't try to rely on your own strength. We are limited. Our strength is limited. So I would just encourage everybody, like pray, you know, and and ask God to just give you strength. Ask him to give you peace of mind, give you joy in the midst of everything that's going on. And just remember that he has a plan for you and he loves you, he hasn't forgotten about you. And just to be encouraged. Like, I want everybody to be encouraged and be inspired from today's episode.

SPEAKER_01 51:30

Yes. Amen. I couldn't have said that. And on that note, we are going to head up out of here, Mom Panores. I hope you enjoyed this episode. Remember, crowns on, chin up, and you rock the rest of your week. Have a good day.