The Cannabis Conversation Podcast
The Cannabis Conversation is the leading English-speaking podcast exploring the legal cannabis industry from a European perspective.
Founded in 2019 by commercial lawyer Anuj Desai, the show has spent six years bringing together the people shaping this industry - operators, scientists, investors, clinicians, policymakers, and entrepreneurs, for honest, evidence-based conversations that go beyond the headlines.
With 194 episodes, The Cannabis Conversation has become a trusted resource for professionals navigating one of the world's fastest-moving sectors.
In late 2025, Anuj passed the reins to Nikita Cretu & Thomas Gray from Lumino - Europe's leading cannabis recruitment agency, who have taken stewardship of the podcast's next chapter. Powered by the belief that an industry is only as good as the people in it, the show continues its mission: to illuminate the industry by bringing the right voices into the seat.
Guests span the full spectrum, from founders and operators deep inside the cannabis world to leaders from other highley regulated markets like pharma, Tobacco, Alcohol, and beyond who are paying close attention.
The Cannabis Conversation Podcast
EPISODE #31 [PART 1 of 2] Western Medicine vs Medical Cannabis with Gregor Zorn - Medical Cannabis Educator and Cannabinoid Therapy Consultant
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There was so much to chat about on this week’s episode, that we’ve decided to break into a two-parter. We’re lucky to be joined by Gregor Zorn, a medical cannabis educator and co-founder of the European Cannabinoid Therapy Association. Together, in Part 1, we investigate the challenges of trying to fit medical cannabis into the standard western medical system, explore the endocannabinoid system and how it interacts with the rest of the body, and look into the ways in which this remarkable plant can be integrated into western healthcare.
If you’d like to find out more about Gregor, and for resources mentioned within the episode, click through to our show notes here: https://www.canverse.global/shownotes/episode-31-part-1-of-2-western-medicine-vs-medical-cannabis-with-gregor-zorn-medical-cannabis-educator-and-cannabinoid-therapy-consultant
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Episode Summary
- Gregor studied Biology at the Biotechnical University of Ljubljana and specialised in nutrition, as a result of this, he became interested in holistic approaches to health and in turn, discovered cannabis and its therapeutic potential.
- Gregor attended a symposium in Ljubljana which was attended by numerous doctors from across the world who spoke about using cannabinoids in order to treat human conditions.
- He found the conference incredibly interesting and was inspired to start reading medical journals around the subject. Throughout his research, he realised he was becoming more concerned with its therapeutic uses and started a mission to learn as much as possible around the subject. Once he had become an expert in the subject, he began teaching doctors and patients.
- Gregor is the co-founder of the European Cannabinoid Therapy Association, a medical cannabis educator for medical professionals, students, and patients.
- Western medicine relies heavily on the use of synthetic pharmaceutical drugs and surgery alongside other medical procedures. It is focused mainly on treating the symptoms of a disease rather than looking for the root itself. For example, if you have a headache you may take some paracetamol to stop the pain rather than treating the problem which caused the headache (a headache is a symptom, not a cause).
- A good treatment outcome comes from taking care of the cause of the symptoms, not the symptoms themselves.
- Many pharmaceutical drugs have side effects, which are in turn treated by more drugs which can present more symptoms. The cycle goes on and on.
- Pharmaceutical drugs may also have a reduced efficacy over time which means they are less effective the more you use them.
- Opioids are a good example of this, over time you have to increase the dose to achieve the same effects. This is due to their mechanism of action within the body - over time you become tolerant of them and need more to give you the same effect.
- Cannabinoid receptors are not found in the areas of the body which control your breathing, with no receptors, they cannot bind. This can be linked to the fact that you cannot overdose on cannabis or THC. Opioids have receptors in these areas, which allows somebody to be able to overdose.
- Different types of cannabis can be grown for different reasons, for example those with tall strong stems are grown for their fibres, those with lots of seeds are grown to make oils, and those with a high number of cannabinoids are grown for therapeutic effects.
- Trichomes store cannabinoids, terpenes (aromatic smells of cannabis) and terpenoids, which are found on the surface of the plant. The cannabis plant is different to other plants in the way that it produces its active ingredients on its surface unl