Corruption in Oregon Exposed with Ben Edtl | Season 2 Episode 20

 Ben Edtl joins me to break down what he says is corruption inside Oregon politics, and why the problem isn’t just Democrats. 

See the full interview VIDEO here on Youtube : https://youtu.be/4mGnhO_5MY4

We get into internal fights within the Republican Party, PAC money, leadership issues, and the people pulling strings behind the scenes. We talk about Free Oregon, what happened to it, and how movements get taken over or shut down. 

We also dig into specific names, political deals, and why many candidates end up falling in line instead of standing up. 

Election integrity comes up as well. We discuss vote by mail, lack of transparency, and why people are losing trust in the system. Ben also talks about lawsuits, investigations, and what he’s personally been involved in over the past few years. This is a direct, uncensored conversation about power, control, and what people in Oregon are actually up against. 

To see more head over to his X profile here : https://x.com/benedtl 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:25

I've got Dan Adel on the air. He is uh from uh where are you at? Where you live up in the Portland area, right?

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Yeah, I'm in the south uh South Portland Metro in Twellaton, Oregon.

SPEAKER_01 0:36

Twellaton, alright. Yeah, I actually lived in Beaverton for um 2000, 2001, and then I sort of started uh hitchhiking up or south down south here, and I was actually homeless down here in Grass Pass for eight years. So but I was up in Portland and I was working at the Intel campus over in Hillsborough, and I I worked uh Forth and Angel and got divorced and ended up here, you know. So uh long hard story, but anyway. So tell me about you. What do you do up there? I mean, you're I've seen you on X and you look like you're a fighter, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:12

Yeah, I mean I'm a fighter, um, for sure. And and and I I just cause trouble, Rebel Rouse. I mean, that's that's really the the name of this game. Um, but we're business owners, like we have a med spa in the heart of uh Portland in the Pearl District, which is uh the business is fantastic, but the Portland's a nightmare. It's a nightmare for business. Um, you know, father got we got three boys, me and my my wife together. Um you know, I got two stepsons and a bio, and um I love them all the same. And and we're uh we got them in public school, just right on the front lines of communism. Uh and um, yeah, I mean we we're uh you know, I ran a government agency uh 24 to 25, flipped it, turned it around. It was incredible. We had there's a lot, big story there, but this is like for six years, you know, I've been in the fight because in 2020, well, let's let's go back a little bit, just so there's a little context. In 2018, I took over a bankrupt coffee roastery, little 800 square foot coffee roastery out of Beaverton. Um, within uh within really six months, you know, four to six months, we were we I had it pretty much turned around. It wasn't like write checks or anything, it was just do the right thing and turn it around. And uh going into 2020, we had three cafes, and our coffee roastery had gone from 800 square feet to 4,600 square feet, and we brought it into the heart of Portland, which is my hometown, and um we were operating uh yeah, multi-unit cafe operation, and then we had this 4,600 square foot coffee roastery out of Southeast Portland that we were pushing uh coffee from Portland to Vegas. And um uh when 2020 hit, uh I you know, remember Kate Brown gave us two weeks to flatten the curve. And I I I was very concerned, of course, and and and and thought this was an unprecedented violation of um civil rights to shut our businesses down and make us wear masks. But I followed her rules for about uh 14 days, just as she said, two weeks to flatten the curve. So I did the math on that. I'm like, well, it's 14 days. I'll give her 14 days, but on the 15th day, I said put the chairs down on the floor, take the signs off the doors, take the stupid fucking tape off the floor so that we can not worry about six feet distancing. And I took my mask off and wouldn't wear it and didn't make anybody else wear it. However, uh of the 40 or so employees that we had, you know, 38 of them were, you know, Antifa um BLM people. And I just had no idea because um I didn't know and or understand what was really brewing under the surface of that 2020 trigger that was pulled on us. Um and so I went through the cancel process in 2020. I still wouldn't shut up. Um we I I rode down with the ship. We ended up um you know winding things down in November of 2020. Um because well, I would say after, you know, I had a personal crisis and I was down in the middle of the night, I got out, I left, my wife was asleep and things were a mess, we were losing everything. Um, you know, there's all these regret about whether I should have just gone along with it instead of being obnoxious and um and and taking a stand or putting my flag in the dirt on this and sacrificing our family business and everything we invested in it. And I I um was in a crisis. I go down to my my roastery in the middle of the night and um you know, early morning, like 2, 3 a.m. And I just I got it when I got there, I just got on my knees and I said, God, what the fuck do you want me to do? And um, you know, I I I don't have any answers. Like I made all the just best decisions I could make. I did the right thing. I followed your orders. You told me to not shut up. Even my wife was like, shut up, shut the fuck up. And and I'm like, God's telling me not to. And she's like, you're insane. And so um you're destroying our lives. And it's like, um, I just um I got on, threw myself on the on my knees. I said, God, what the fuck do you want me to do? And God he got back to me super fast, man, almost immediate. And it was, I knew it's him because it was from here. And he just he just said, I want you to go into politics. And I started laughing. I mean, like hysterical. I was totally nuts at that moment because I'm like, if anybody witnessed this, they would put me in a loony bin. And and I'm like, um, because I'm I'm literally I go from wanting to, you know, put a bullet in my head to to cracking up laughing. But the moment he said that, I just thought it was so funny because I'm like, man, I've had 10,000 people this week call me a racist homophobe publicly. I've had, I've I've lost our businesses. I'm on the news uh being accused of killing people because even though we've never spread COVID or never had COVID at that time. I was like, I'm killing people on the news. I I I couldn't, I I just thought it was hilarious because I'm like, man, politics? Like, yeah, I'm this is going really well. You know, this my political step has gone really well. And so um, but it it got real because he's like, no, are you stupid? Can't you see what I'm doing with you right now? Like, you're you're the one standing up. There's no one else standing up. Like, you're the only one who's saying who's saying yes. And this is in Portland. And I'm and I'm like, and I'm in a left-wing business, specialty coffee. Like, I've never been in specialty coffee before, but this is a bunch of left-wingers. And so um, I'm like, I and then I I had this sense of relief come over me. Like, I don't know, like this sense of protection, a sense that, like, okay, I have been doing the right things. Okay, I you are, I it is really you telling me to do this. And so that's really what led to me going into politics. And so in December, or sorry, in January 2021, I started Free Oregon. And Free Oregon very quickly became the largest civil rights group in the state of Oregon. And we um and we um we grew very fast. We raised uh hundreds of thousands of dollars and and within you know 90 to 120 days. We brought the first lawsuits against the vaccine mandates in Oregon, protecting teachers, um uh medical workers, frontline responders, police officers, and um, you know, paramedics and all that. And and we brought the lawsuit, we brought lawsuits both in state court and in federal court. We brought uh Johnson, Malcolm Johnson v. Brown, which was the uh big case that was Stephen Jongus's first civil rights case in his career. Um, and that was a uh a Nuremberg code case that we took to the to to federal court on the vaccine mandates, and we financed all these lawsuits. We did everything we possibly could, and that was back when we had people with money in Oregon that would fight and donate, and um we lost that. They're gone. They've left. We've had tens of thousands of medical workers leave, tens of thousands of doctors leave. You know, this is not a good state anymore to be in if you're a high earner. So they're leaving, and they left a long time ago, and especially the freedom side, the freedom people, the medical freedom people, you know, it they they left. We're so we're sort of in this weird place today, but that was really the biggest momentum and the biggest energy that that drove my political, you know, sort of, I guess, profile. Um, and a lot of people you'd be really surprised were came out as plumbers and as, you know, like Angela Todd, for example. We were talking about the post that I made last night on X about um PDX Real and and how the ORP is working with PDX Real. Angela Todd was on my board at Free Oregon, she was a huge part of the growth of Free Oregon. No one knew at that time what was brewing in the background, but she didn't even she wouldn't have had really a platform if it wasn't for Free Oregon. Um Free Oregon created leadership positions across our state for a lot of people. We took over um, I think it was like 28 of 36 county um parties or 35 county parties in Oregon as we were, as, as Free Oregon was was growing, and then it came under attack, and Angela Todd tried to take it over, and she she um went to our lawyer at the time, which was um Tyler Smith, and made a false claim that I was um that I was uh misusing funds. And I had eight to ten people on our board that that had access to the books and the bank accounts, and they had my back, and then Tyler Smith told her to go fuck right off, and so she did, but that was only the first shot of an attack that was attempted to bring down free organ. And she successfully, ultimately, that initial attack brought it down. And so um the the final nail in the coffin was was um was uh the Buellers, and and um and they helped take it down. They changed the name, they did a bunch of stuff once they got control, which I trusted them and said you can have control, and um they turned it into something called Fight Club, and then it went down to nowhere. Um and uh, you know, um Bueller is the chair of the Washington County GOP, and he is uh works with David Brocksmith, who I believe is a CCP asset. And um these are people that came into politics in that early time after 2020, along with me, um, that became leaders in our party. And most of those leaders, a lot most, but a lot of those leaders have been flipped to work because they, you know, they desire to be, they desire a career in politics. They want to be politicians. I have fantasies about not about being able to go back to normal life. Um and and we we we have to like there's just no there's just no way that I can do it. Um and so it's depressing in a lot of ways, but you know, right now what what I'm seeing in Oregon is a resurgence of that energy that we had in 2020 with in with Free Oregon. We're seeing this, I'm seeing this resurgence of people that want to stand up and take action and fight. And they're aiming it in the right place, they're aiming it at the Republicans because it's becoming very apparent. Because I'll tell you this, in six years, I have fought thinking that I I left that roastry that morning when the sun was up, feeling okay, feeling like God's got it, feeling like you know, I have a mission in a in a in a in a direction that I can take. And I have fought since that moment um to change our state, to fix our state, to turn it around. And in the last two to three years, it's become apparent that I've never been able to actually attack a Democrat because the Republicans have always prevented me from going further. They've always tried to slow down our effort or destroy our effort and um and and and keep it down. And I realize today, and I know this in my heart, deeply in my heart, as a truth that cannot be denied at this point in time, with everything that I've experienced in these six years, that we will never turn Oregon around so long as this cabal controls our Republican Party. And we have to get rid of them first. It's like we this is our Tea Party calling, this is our Tea Party moment. We have to change our party, and we have to join the national MAGA movement fully and without, you know, any sort of apology. Um, we can't worry about, well, the Democrats think that. I don't care what Democrats think. Donald Trump didn't care what Democrats thought. We need to go out there, tell the truth, have courage, and that courage will be followed. People follow courage, not titles.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Absolutely. I'm with you there. And I I mean, you know, and I'm I'm watching the it's it seems like you know, they've got a supermajority, right? But how many people are yeah, how many people are up there like really, really fighting? You know, I mean we've got some, but you you know, Dwayne Younger, he was up there really fighting. Um so I mean, what do you think he's doing up there right now? I mean, he's he's he he started off pretty uh strong and heavy, and now he's got somebody running up against him, Seth Bannham down here. Um so I mean, any thoughts on on that and Dwayne and all that stuff?

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Yeah, I mean, I think Dwayne Dwayne is has has gone from someone with good motives who wanted to go in there and fix Oregon and stand up for his constituents and do the right thing to uh oh, I think I want to just remain a politician. I don't want to lose my seat. I don't want to lose my power. I now see that the caucus controls whether or not I keep my seat. And so I gotta do what the caucus says. So I call them caucus suckers.

unknown 13:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

I was like, yeah, that's funny, that works. Um get your knee pads out and um do some sucking because that's exactly what everyone does in Salem. And the caucus leaders are doing that to the Democrats because the Democrats have control and they share the money, so everybody gets their funding if they go along with it. That's why every single one of our bills, pretty much that are communist, are bipartisan bills, like House Bill 2002. We had uh a caucus that funded tons of money for the guy Javadi, who then was like, oh, cool, I'll just be a Democrat then. I mean, they're all traitors anyway. So what does it matter? Um, and so we we we just have a serious fundamental sickness within our party, and it's at the top. Um, and we have to take him out, we have to cut the head off the snake. It's the only way around it. And Dwayne Younger's, I'm sorry, I talked to him, I know him, I think he's a nice guy. I used to have respect for him, but I don't have respect for him anymore, especially after the message he sent me this morning. I just don't have the respect for anybody who's gonna stand for nothing because if you stand for nothing, you fall for anything. And that's just the way it goes. And Yunker's falling. And the new guy that they're putting in, I'll tell you right now, is gonna be worse than Yunker because he's gonna be someone that they've already groomed and know to be a most likely uh a narcissist who is gonna do and say whatever he needs to do and say, but he's gonna stab everybody in Josephine County straight in the neck.

SPEAKER_01 14:46

Yeah, let's hope that doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_00 14:47

Well, that's what's gonna happen if you win. So you got Yunker or you got even worse. Um, these are our choices, and these are our choices for governor, and these are our choices right now because we don't have an apparatus at the top that's that's feeding and nurturing and developing real leaders with integrity who have true beliefs that they don't have to worry about what they said yesterday or who they took money from today. It's it's this is what we stand for, this is what we're gonna do when we go and do it. Promises kept, promises made, promises kept. It's it's Trump is laying out the the new paradigm for what our political leaders need to be going forward.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

So uh, and you were talking about on X, you were you were looking at this uh Project Democracy pack. So tell me about them and what what's that all about?

SPEAKER_00 15:33

Well, these guys are so slick they go, let's create a pack called Project Democracy because it'll make Democrats think that we're Democrats. Actually, here's the truth of the matter. Everybody believes they're Democrats, anyways. Yeah, you know, if you look at your voting record, if you look at the caucus voting record, they're Democrats. What are they how are they not? Tell me how they're not. Um, no one can tell. They say great floor speeches. I mean, look, you got Ed Deal who's who's who's literally uh passing around an issue petition to called Let Us Paddle to remove the paddle board tax. That dumb motherfucker voted in favor to pass the tax. Like people need to wake up, they don't understand what's going on. I'm gonna vote yes on a bill, then I'm gonna sponsor the um the referendum so I can get attention and and raise money and get your voter data. That's crazy to me. This is so over the top, bad. All of this is just terrible.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

Yeah, and and and you know, I was looking at that that project democracy pack, and and I looked at their email address and it says financial peacebookkeeping.com. Um and that sounded familiar. And actually, we had a recall of two commissioners here just uh late last year, and I was looking at their pack, the the Restore Joe Co. Pack, which is who recalled uh the two commissioners, and there it is, financial peace bookkeeping multiple times in their pack trying to recall commissioners. I don't know what the funds were for, I you know, but it's just weird. I saw that data and I was like, wait a minute, what? So, yeah, I have no idea what's going on with that. That that's pretty crazy stuff.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

Uh well it it it what it is is it's it's the Iversons. So who are they? Who are they? Okay, that's a really good do you do are you do you know who they are?

SPEAKER_02 17:15

Do you okay, great?

SPEAKER_00 17:16

Because you you mentioned before we went live that you are that you've been fighting this fight for about a year. So um it there I I I've been around six years, uh hardly institutional knowledge, okay? But it's crazy. Like I told you before, there's all there's this insurgency of people coming up to step into the fight now that we sort of went through this big phase and then it died because it got crushed, and then we resurged, and now there's this resurgence that we're in. So there's a lot of people that don't even know my history. They're like, Benet, oh, you got 40,000 followers or so. Um, he must be um he's he's something, but nobody really knows how that happened. Um, and so I think it's it's crazy. So two years ago, a couple years ago, something like that, two, three years ago, our House uh minority leader's name was uh Vicki Brees Iverson. And Vicki Brees Iverson had to step down because her husband is a political operative who um runs essentially a campaign management company. And that campaign management company um also works very closely with Trader Tim, Tim Canope. Uh do you know who Tim Canope is?

SPEAKER_01 18:19

Uh nope, don't know that one either. Sorry, I'm young to this thing.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

We call him Trader Tim because Trader Tim, uh, this is due to the the walkout we had over House Bill 2002, and House Bill 2002 from 2023 was um uh taxpayer-funded um sex changes for minors without parental consent. Wow. Okay, crazy. That was that was the by that was also a bipartisan bill. So um uh they walked out on that bill. But here's the problem there was a bill that was passed prior in that legislative session in the long session, in which uh the first law of its kind passed in the entire nation, where if a legislator has 10 or more inexcused absences and the excuser or the inexcuser is the Senate president, uh so the Senate president could say, You weren't here today, unexcuse, and you get 10 of those, you can't hold uh seat in the next term, in the following term. Okay, yeah. So if Republicans walk out, and they did this because Republicans had enough power, they didn't have a supermajority this time, they just were under a minority, and they had enough power to hold a walkout and prevent a bill from being passed. So that's what they did on House Bill 2002. Ten of our top senators who would actually put up a fight, who would actually stand up in front of the Democrat truck and get run over if they have to be uh speed bump for you, they would do it for you and me. Um, those 10 senators went out and got their 10 absences over House Bill 2002, knowing that they would not be able to keep their terms uh in the following term. That means even if they ran and got elected, state law says, nope, you can't keep a seat. So you have to wait a term before you can come back. So they sacrificed their entire political careers. It's something that Dwayne Younger's unwilling to do. But these ten senators sacrificed their careers, and one of those senators is um uh um, oh my gosh, Robinson. Noah Robinson's father.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

That's why Noah ran, because his father was in the walkout and he was a good man. Um and so one of the one of the things that happened before House Bill 2002, but back to Trader Tim and the walkout. What happened was is that after all these senators had gained 10 unexcused absences, they could no longer uh hold their following term. Tim Canope and David Brock Smith walked back in to make a quorum so they could pass the bill.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

That's wild.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

It gets worse. It gets worse. At that time, I said in public statements on X that Tim Canope was paid off. And at the time, the rumor was that he was gonna get a position on the lottery board. That Kotech was gonna pay him with a lifetime commission on the lottery board, which is a quarter million dollar a year's salary with PERS for life. And that's what we heard, but I didn't know if that was true. So I said, I don't know if this is true, but this is what I heard. And I put it out there. But guess what happened? Recently, within the last few months, Tina Kotec appointed Tim Canope to be the uh uh uh director of the um of the new uh agency that she created under executive branch, uh the the um uh the a whatever of prosperity, the the the agency of prosper the prosperity czar or the agency of prosperity. I can't remember the exact name of it, my brain's kind of um going crappy on me, but it's the prosperity. Agency. And it's a bunch of bullshit. And Tim Canope is getting a quarter million a year, and he's gonna have purrs for life. If he can stay there for three years, he can retire with purrs for life. A quarter million a year. That's his payoff. So we call him Trader Tim. His son is named Reagan Canop. Reagan Canope has taken lots and lots and lots of taxpayer dollars into his NGO that is uh his dad's made sure he's been able to get for voting on Democrat bills. A lot of times the the they'll they'll give you a couple million dollars a year to spend in your own district. And what do they do? They feed their own NGOs, like David Brocksmith, for example, who I believe is a CCP agent. He's taken tax dollars and put it into his Southern Oregon Children's Foundation, and which he draws a CEO salary. And so not only are you paying David Brock Smith um the $40,000 a year, whatever that $60,000 it is to be a senator, you're also paying for his CEO salary at the Southern Oregon Children's Foundation, which we don't even know if it actually even exists.

SPEAKER_01 23:02

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

So these guys are all one party. When people say rhino, I think it doesn't do it justice. When people say uniparty, I think it doesn't do it justice. I think we switch the word out uniparty to communist. And um rhino, you switch that out to communist. And then the Democrats, you also call them communist because that's what they are.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

Yeah, exactly. I mean, and and really the whole government, I mean, they just want you to be dumb, broke, and disarmed.

SPEAKER_00 23:29

Dumb, broke, and disarmed.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

Yeah, I that's kind of what they're after, right? I mean, that's that's the whole point. I mean, they just they don't want us to know anything, they don't want us to talk about it, they don't want us to stand up like you're doing. Um, so I mean, they're the NGOs are like kind of the cartel, right?

SPEAKER_00 23:47

No, the cartel is still the cartel. Um and the cartel has tremendous influence over um Oregon politicians and Oregon's government. In fact, um I believe the cart I believe that every both caucuses from both parties in the legislature are totally controlled by the cartel. And the cartel, meaning the South American cartel, also China, um, David Brock Smith, uh, we fought against him in 2024. Um, and he threatened to sue me, and then he went to the media saying he was gonna sue me for for um defamation, but I told him to go ahead and fucking sue me because I'm telling the truth and I got the receipts, so have at it. Um and um we put the receipts out at ruc.org slash dbs. So ruckpack.org slash dbs. Go look at it. Every receipt is there. Um his voting record, which is abysmal, it's a China uh driven voter vote uh voting record. He was the sponsor for the 10 cent bag tax. Um he tried to put windmills off the coast of Koos Bay. Um, we have all these videos of him like smiling and laughing with Tina Kotec and other prominent Democrats, um, talk about how much money they're gonna get from the Biden administration. Um, all those videos are there. And um he also gave away the Elliott State Forest that used to be owned by the taxpayers, which we could log and we can have training for um forestry and things like that. He gave it to uh Oregon State University, and then they shut down logging right away and training for logging. And um that was devastating to Southern Oregon. We also had um uh he's also he was also voted in favor of the wildfire mapping bill, which uh forced many, many, many rural homeowners out of their homes because they couldn't get insured and their mortgages would be shut down. Like you can't insure it, we can't keep the mortgage, right? So um that was a horrific bill. Um that just just to start a few, there's a ton of structural bills because the way this works, same thing with our elections, is that over 10 years time, over three years' time, over five years' time, over 20 years' time, legislation is pieced together to create a larger, more devastating, more overbearing, more tyrannical situation relating to the subject. Okay, so um he's done a lot of those bills, which you put together with other bills, and it's devastating to our economy, devastating to our power as people, devastating to our rights.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

And meanwhile, everybody's worried about climate change. And we we don't have a climate crisis, we have a corruption crisis.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

We have where'd you get that? Yeah, it's true.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

It's kind of what I'm seeing, you know. It's like um, so I mean, what can we do down here in Josephine County? What can we do to help?

SPEAKER_00 26:38

I think the most important thing you can do is um is you know make sure that people be be there's a lot of things we have to do, but in Josephine County, I think it's very important that you guys um understand the truth. I think that's fundamental. That's step one. Know what's going on. Politics is a I've been in a lot of industries. Um politics is the most challenging because you can't see who's attacking you. And you and and every time you get a layer, you peel a layer out, that you think you got it, you don't got it. Even me, and everything that I'm telling you right now, there's other layers that run deeper. Um, so I'm on a you you you you gotta be like a hound dog and you gotta go, what does that look like? You know, what does that look like? You can't listen to what they say. What they say has to be, you know, ignored. You have to look at what they do when it comes down to whether you're supporting a political leader or not. Um, look at what they do. And and and what they do and the outcomes are critical to measure. Um, we have to do that. We need people to run, fly planes into the battleship, run for office, challenge seats. We need to get IP 37 on the ballot. We need signatures to get IP 37 on the ballot. We know we can't vote our way out of a of a rigged election system, but um we can put it on the ballot and we can we can force the conversation, which will ultimately wake more and more people up. I don't want to end up on the West Coast like Lithuania in the 80s, where the government is shooting people with live rounds in the street because too many people were too slow to wake up. Um that is a very good possibility that we face that on the West Coast in the next five years. Um, we have to prevent the fissuring of our nation. Um, the Oregon, Washington, and California are making uh moves unilaterally and together, I mean, as a group unilaterally from the United States, um, our First Amendment rights have been destroyed, our Second Amendment rights have been destroyed, our Fifth Amendment rights have been destroyed, and our 14th Amendment rights have been destroyed, and more have been destroyed. And that's what they're doing. So when a when you see three states get together in 2020, sign a pact called the West Coast State Pact to violate the rights of their citizens, their American citizens, together in unison, that hasn't happened since prior to the Civil War when the southern uh states seceded to maintain slavery in violation of our United States Constitution. We have an insurrection, we're surrounded by an insurrection. The three states that we live in on the West Coast are in an, I believe, in an active insurrection uh digitally through our our ballot machines uh and our voting system, and also uh legally in an insurrection because it is refusing to follow um the law, the federal laws that protect us, the citizens. And so um it's a dangerous time that we're in. And so I think that uh people need to understand that this is serious, that yeah, you got shit going on in your life, but you're gonna have to set some of it down. We need your help. Um, you have to join us, you can't be afraid. Um, you have to be, you have to have courage and you have to step up. You have to go get 10 signatures on an IP 37 sheet. You have to go out and say, you know what, I think that this guy's wrong. I'm gonna call my my senator or my state rep uh Dwayne Yunker, and I'm gonna say, Dwayne, you gotta you gotta get tougher. You gotta pick a side. Um, and uh because look, if Dwayne doesn't pick a side now, he's gonna end up like James Heb. And James Hebe in 2024 was trying to stand up for the people, but um he had to, he was also being uh intimidated by um the caucus, and so the caucus knew what was in his heart, and so they knew they had to replace him any either way, and I think that's where we are with Dwayne. They know he has a good heart, because I know he has a good heart, because I know him. He has a good heart.

SPEAKER_02 30:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

But he's trying to play a game that he's not gonna win. Um, they already know he has a good heart. There's no taking that back. Um, they're gonna replace him, they're gonna fix the election to replace him. Um, and I can tell you this is true because when I was the CEO at Umqua Public Transit, I became the very first, and this is 2025, in the May special election, I became the very first uh government official to refuse to certify an election. And that led to Von V. Loomis. And this is Dan Loomis, David Brock Smith, Virgil Osborne, all these guys down here in uh Douglas County, just north of you. And they're stealing elections, and we caught them. We're going to trial. We've we they we defeated eight attempts to dismiss that case. It's the first election case in state history like this. Um we've received 80,000 documents. They still won't provide um 15 of the 19 um uh requests that we've gotten, and the judges recently told them, You're gonna hold you in contempt if you don't provide the data. They're still trying to prevent data. But the data that we have found, it's already been discussed publicly in court. We've found enough shenanigans to prove without question that that election was stolen from Todd Vaughn as a board member of the Umclaw Public Transit District, and that is a 78% Republican county in which the senator is a CCP asset, David Brock Smith. He's also the deputy minority leader, and he's also running for U.S. Senate. So we need to understand what's going on, and we need to understand that um that yes, they may steal uh that election from Dwayne Yunker right here in a month from now. Um, but he if he alienates the people that support him by not standing for anything and trying to play it safe, his political career will be over because he will have no support ever again. Um and we need to stand for something or we're gonna fall for anything, and that's what it comes down to. We need to get rid of all the leadership at the ORP besides Dave Brown, he's the only one who's good. The rest of them are all corrupted, they're not they're evil, um, and they're clueless. Yeah, we gotta fix it.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

I've seen that. When you posted that on X, you were showing like a paper trail here, and I'm and I'm looking at it right now. Um, you know, all this these funds going into PDX real media. I mean, so what what is that all about? What's happening there? I mean, that's it's uh pretty crazy. I I'm just kind of confused as to, you know, what's what what do you see happening here?

SPEAKER_00 33:23

Well, what I see happening is that um, you know, bad people, you know, inherently sick bad people, um, are willing uh to say and do whatever is needed to say and do um to to achieve something that they want. And so those are the best people. Like I was talking to a guy that, and I'll tell you about PDX Real in a second, but uh I was talking to a guy who did background checks for the for the uh Republican, used to do it a long time ago for the uh um for the Congressional Caucus, for the Republican Congressional Caucus. And he said, it was the craziest thing in the world. I would get these background checks, I would they would say, Hey, run run background on these four people. And he's like, some of them would be okay, some of them would be like, Yeah, he's got a you know, you know, got picked up for you know, assault one or something or like, you know, something like you know, got in a fight or whatever, like, you know, and then one, you know, one one might have a dewy, and and then there was this, he goes, then there'd be a guy that had that rap sheet, you know, just like sh theft and deweys and assaults and like all this crazy shit, you know, um, you know, accusations of of um sexual improprieties, things like that, right? And he's like, wow, this guy's bad. And he would send it back and go, this dude right here, whatever the fuck you do, don't don't don't work with this guy. And that's the guy they would pick. They'd pick the worst one because those are the ones you can manipulate. Those are the ones who are willing to do and say whatever they need to do and say, and they work on cleaning up their records. And everybody that's that's that's controlling our caucus right now, like David Brock Smith, he has records, he has a pass. A lot of them are sealed because they're in Koos County, he controls that county. So the the sheriff's closed up records. He was under investigation for two years by the FBI for destruction of documents as a um as a commissioner in Koos County. And and when that FBI investigation closed, he was appointed to state rep. So you gotta understand, like they go after and select bad people. So what we're up against is some kind of um intelligence um community cabal or some kind of um of foreign interference with our party. And we're never gonna defeat the Democrats, who I believe also have that same foreign interference until we clean up our side. And what happened on the national level is that Trump came in and you know what he went through. Like, stop for a moment and think about what he's gone through since 2015, 2014, even, all the way through what this dude has put up with, what he's walked through, what he's held up to. Um, and nothing wavered, nothing changed. And he changed the party at the federal level from the top down. And um, and and because that's the answer here. And I'm telling you, all these snakes are still laying there ready to go, but he's holding them at bay. And we have to do the same thing in Oregon, we have to do the same thing in California. My friend Jim Walsh, who's the uh GOP chair of Washington State, he's fighting so hard to do the same thing in Washington State. They're after him, they got the knives out. Um, we have to do that. We have to follow the Trump plan and we have to execute it here in Oregon. It's so important in the next 12 months that we clean up the ORP from the top down. It's incredibly important. So um it's it's it's huge. Now, PDX Real, and I told you before we knew anything about it, Angela Todd was was like my my right-hand person at Free Oregon. And um, but her uh husband was um uh convicted for um uh trafficking child porn, child rape porn videos. Um he was convicted for sex trafficking. Um he was uh departed deported from Thailand. Um they ran a porn website together, and within that porn website business, that's where they were dealing in trafficking child porn. They ran that together. That's why he was in Thailand. So all this stuff, I'm not making it up. There's there's there's all all the documents are there. There's there's uh emails that show him uh requesting the porn that he was looking for and trying to make deal making deals for it. Um he was deport deported, he was arrested multiple times, multiple um parole violations. Um, not a good guy at all. Someone you do not want near your children or near your family or near your home. And Angela Todd has stayed with him through all this, and my only logical explanation is because I don't listen to what Angela says about it, I don't listen to what other people say about it. Angela Todd stays with him, for in my opinion, because she's into it as well. Um, that to me is obvious. Um, they that long before politics, they were together and they were into it, and so I just don't believe that somehow she's a victim of this guy either, as they're still together and they're now their business partners at PDX Real. And so, um again, with the context of what I'm telling you about they look for the bad people because they can manipulate them. They can, they the bad people want attention, they want power, they want money. And so these people are easily manipulated to be given that as reward for lying and cheating and stealing, which is essentially what they do and what they ask them to do. Um, and that's why I think PDX Real has been selected by the caucus, um, and then therefore the ORP, because the caucus has total control over the leadership of the ORP because Connie Welchell is not a leader, period. She's scared, she's a little lamb. And um, and the when she became chair, uh it's the same thing as having David Brock Smith as chair, or Ed Deal as chair, or Kevin Mannix as chair. Uh, people that I'm again, they're not rhinos, they're communists. And um, and so we have to uh understand that this is the challenge that we're facing. Um, this is what we're up against. And um knowing uh the only thing about the post that I said yesterday was uh was was um um Jason Fields, who's running for commissioner in Yam Hill County, and I know Jason very well. Um I followed that post up with because he's on that list. He's he's his pack has paid her $5,000 or something. And I talked to him, and he's been outspoken publicly about his he's a survivor of child abuse in the very same way that um the PDX Real has committed child abuse, and he's been publicly outspoken about that. I called him yesterday and I said, dude, you're gonna get heat for this. And he called me back and he said, Dude, you know, the second I found that out, I I I fired him. Um, you know my history, you know, and and I said, No, I know, bro. And I was like, I'm so glad to know. And he goes, and you know the caucus, you know, they they screwed me every single time I ran. And I'm like, I know they did, because I was with him every single time he ran for state rep. And so um he has my unequivocal endorsement uh for Commissioner VM Hill County, and I'm proud of him, and I'm proud of him for standing strong and not falling to the uh pressures of the caucus when he had the opportunity to. He did not. Um, so I made that very, very clear. The other thing too is last night we had our ORP debate, okay?

SPEAKER_02 40:21

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 40:22

And um that was also just really, really sad because um Angela Todd was we had literally had it moderated by um essentially a uh a company owned by known convicted pedophiles. Um and it was sponsored by I saw a sponsorship um uh by um uh a company called um um Project 1776, and it's owned by a guy named Dane Lomax, and Dane Lomax is from Arizona, and I've known Dane a long, long time. He was trying to get into Oregon politics, and he wanted he saw a path through me. And for the first year of him trying to get me to help bring him into Oregon politics, I didn't trust him. And then eventually I thought, well, fine, let's go with Dane, you know, let him let let me start working with him. And um, and but Dane Lomax uh is a bad guy. Um, it did turn out uh that my initial gut instinct on Dane Lomax was correct. Um he was uh uh he went to prison for eight years for mortgage fraud. Um, and uh, you know, he's he's he's just got that history where it's like I don't know. I mean, we've all done bad things, and I'm not trying to judge, but um, but he's someone to be very weary of.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Um that that's a sponsor. And then of course we had David Brock Smith, a China a bona fide CCP asset, uh, lead the Pledge of Allegiance. So it's pretty sad.

SPEAKER_01 41:51

Yeah, I mean a lot of people were upset that were like, I gotta I guess it was you know $25 or whatever to watch that. And I can't really confirm that. I wasn't here, I was with a client, but a lot of people couldn't even see it. So um shifting gears a little bit here, so um election fraud. So you you worked on that a little bit, right?

SPEAKER_00 42:12

And you know, I've been working on it since 2022.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

Nice. Um a lot of people, so I did interview um David Clements, and I also interviewed Dr. Frank, and a lot of the responses I got on those videos are to prove it. You know, prove it. What is the strongest piece of evidence that you want people to look at when talking about that topic?

SPEAKER_00 42:33

I think this I think that the strongest piece of evidence is the system itself. Okay That's it. It's the system itself. You can't look in. You can't look in, no one can look in. Not even Ed. I remember again, props to Dwayne Younger. When he started out, he would call me up and he would say, Hey, I'm I'm calling for ink inquis inquisitions in investigations into our election system, and he goes, and they're stonewalling me. Like the Republicans are stonewalling me, the Democrats are stonewalling me, the government's stonewalling, the Secretary of State's stonewalling me. I'm a legislature, I should be able to look in. He could not look in. No one can look in. If you if there's no stronger evidence, you show me stronger evidence than that.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

Yeah, public information is to be public information.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

If it ain't fucking stolen, then why don't you show us what you got? What if if the if the roles are clean, you know, why why is why is um is um Tobias Reed not just sending the rolls over to the federal government if he's got anything to worry about? Like, that's it. That I mean, what else do you need to know? I mean, yes, we have this body of circumstantial evidence across the board. I can tell you for a fact, number one, that in Von V. Loomis, because of vote by mail, and they flood the whole state with ballots, um, and that's why they do it, is so that there's ballots flying around everywhere, and people, good people, go, Oh, I got two, I got people's wrong ballot. I'm gonna put it back in the um return to sender uh box and and then it'll get returned back to the USPS. The USPS, which has which which is controlled by a a left-wing communist union, um, they're getting all the ballots. And so what do they do with it? We don't know. There's no chain of custody. Why is there no chain of custody? Because they don't fucking want chain of custody. Right. Okay? You want proof? There's your proof. Like, you think that a casino would handle its money like this? Hell no. And so, I mean, I'm telling you right now, if you think there's no election fraud, you're a fucking idiot at this point. You're just an idiot.

SPEAKER_01 44:34

Yeah, a lot of people are denying it. They're just like, oh, well, you know, it says that it's 0005, blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_00 44:40

But here's the thing: they're denying it because the state of Oregon has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on getting two words put into everybody's heads. Safe and secure.

SPEAKER_01 44:51

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 44:51

Our elections are safe and secure. Oh, safe and secure. It's my propaganda. He I saw this last month. He goes, Oh, if you want to have the secure elections, just copy Oregon's system. That's all you have to do. It's that simple. We got the best. Best of the best. That was a that was a tweet that he put out. I was like, oh my God. It's it's funny, but it's not funny. It's it's it's it's sad that people have become so stupid that they believe it despite all evidence. Oregon, look, it is we I grew up in the city of Portland, born and raised. I I lived, when I was a kid, I never lived more than 30 blocks from the river, okay? Like always within the heart of the city. And I was raised by liberals, like real true liberals who are public school teachers. I mean, it doesn't get more liberal than that. Um, and and I I never, none of this is liberal. None of this is liberal. This isn't democracy. You and in a real democracy, you would be able to look inside your system because you are a voter.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

Right. You want to know, you want to look, you want to see what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 45:59

Yeah, there is no looking. And I had an interview, I got interviewed uh what was it last week? I think it was like time flies, I think it was last week, by the New York Times. And the New York Times was like, well, you know, you're the chief petitioner of IP37, and we're just we want to ask you questions. And I'm like, the New York Times, I know what you're gonna do. You're gonna, I told her this. I said, you know what I know? Here's what I know. Here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna write total bullshit that you can, you can't, you didn't, and you won't confirm is true. I know you're gonna do that because you're not a journalist. You're a scumbag. But yeah, I'll answer any questions you have. And and um, and she she laughed a little bit, but then um, and I said it jokingly, but I'm I'm not joking. Yeah, and um, we did the interview. I got the I got the article. I found it, I got no, I got alerted to it. I I pulled it down, I I I read it. And she writes in the New York Times that vote by mail in Oregon favors Republicans. What? What? I got the I got it, I have it. I got the PDF of it. It's hilarious. Favored Republicans at the beginning. She said, at the beginning, we're favored Republicans. Republicans dominated with vote by mail in the beginning. I'm like, this is a complete total lie. Um, I I I I suspected she would write lies, but I didn't think it would be that bold. Um, that never happened. There was never any Republicans never were favored in any way, shape, or form by vote by mail.

SPEAKER_01 47:29

Well, I mean, ever since vote by mail came into play, there's not been a Republican governor, correct?

SPEAKER_00 47:34

Correct. And we've also never had a uh a Republican senator. Um, Ron Wyden defeated the Republican senator that we had at the time and never looked back, won every single Senate election ever since, and it kept growing and growing and growing. Um, our system, if you understand the election process, if you understand the election system and you understand the laws and the legislation um that formed our election system like I do, you would have zero doubt in your mind that our elections are 100% completely rigged.

SPEAKER_01 48:08

Yeah, and I want people to keep looking themselves like misinformation sucks. They're trying to feed us lies. And I just believe it. People are just lemmings. You know what I mean? They just follow people off of the cliffs. There's very few people like you that are out there going, wait a minute, is this true? Let me find out. You know, there's not there's not enough people like that out there doing that. So, you know, that's what I say to Josephine County. People do your research, don't just take people's word for it. Don't take memes, you know, headlines on social media, especially. There's like social media is an engine of mission misinformation and hatred. And that's what I'm seeing.

SPEAKER_00 48:44

It it truly is, and it's a silo. And so, you know, my parents, for example, they're still liberals, but actually they're now progressives. I think they've drank way too much Kool-Aid. And I think the booster shots get to your brain. Um, my stepfather would died a couple months after his third booster shot. Um, and then my mom finally stopped taking booster shots because I said, Mom, no more. Sorry, no more. Um, because I love my mom. I love my parents. I don't care if they're liberal, I love them.

SPEAKER_02 49:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:11

Um and and they care that I'm I'm conservative and Republican MAGA, but um, but I I think they still love me too. For a time they did not. I don't think they did, but but I think they do again now. But nonetheless, um the reality is is that is that people, I think it's very hard for people to swallow the big fat red pill. And for me, I've gone through this crazy learning process from 2020 to now, learning about politics. Because before I was like everybody else. I watched the news and I thought I knew. I thought I knew what was going on. And I when I have conversations with people like my parents who are very politically, my mom is is is the secretary for the um uh for the state League of Women Voters. I mean, she's she's very active in this in the political world. Um, but I can tell you that like I I not one of them have actually read the legislation. They they just you have to read it, you have to understand ORS, you have to see how that legislation is implemented. Um because they're pro-democracy, but there is no democracy here. Um and ranked choice voting is is is it's just Kool-Aid, man. Like they're drinking Kool-Aid, and that's why I like people like Ciata Thompson, who was the vice chair for the Multnomah County uh Democrat Party, and she's a black lesbian from Brooklyn, okay? Yeah, I absolutely love her, she's fantastic. And she reached out because she started questioning within the Democrat Party as the vice chair of Multnomah County Democrats, why are we trans in kids? Hold the phone. What wait a minute here? Why? And she was ostracized, canceled, and sent out. And um, I was one of the first Republican um players in the state of Oregon to go meet with her um and find out what happened. And she said, you know, nothing can red pill you faster than moving to Portland. She's like, because you can't make this stuff up. And um I think it's hard though. I think when you realize that um when you're open-minded to the facts, it's very, very difficult to comprehend. I think it's very difficult to comprehend that we do not live in a democracy that we truly, when you look at how the state laws in Oregon, Washington, California defy our constitution, we don't live in the United States either. And so um this is this is a troubling time, and I think, I think, I think people have a very hard time accepting um the idea that our elections are rigged.

SPEAKER_01 51:56

I mean, and people just want to hide under a rock somewhere. They either want to hide under a rock or they want to move out of Oregon, or they, you know, they don't want to vote, they don't want to get up and vote. They it's like there's it's happening all over the place, and social media is basically promoting that. Like people need to stay stupid and it's it's crazy. I can see it myself.

SPEAKER_00 52:16

Yeah, no, we we we need people to wake up. We need we the same same thing we had in 2020. We need people to wake up, and uh, we need people to wake up their minds and shake shake out of that trance um that so many of us are in. Uh, but I'll tell you, I think um, you know, being in in Portland, being a business owner in the heart of Portland, I'm surrounded by Democrats even today. Um, and it's it's crazy how close the Democrats are to that that I know, how how close they are to to like coming over to the other side and realizing what's happening. Um I think a lot of them do.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

Yeah, I think a lot of them do. Yeah, and and you know, and in the end, the Democrats a lot, a lot there's they're just people too, they're members of our community, you know. Um don't be afraid to get to know them sometimes, you know. And I mean, I I know that sounds a lot of people are gonna be like, what, Jordan? You know, like are you serious? Um, you know, because there's a lot of hatred going on, you know. They want us to hate each other, they want us to have a war, essentially. They do.

SPEAKER_00 53:20

We have to you're you're you're 100% right. We gotta cut through this.

SPEAKER_01 53:23

We gotta cut this through it. Yep, exactly. Because I mean it's they're not the enemy. Yeah, we're all humans. I mean, we gotta just uh work together and figure out what the real corruption is, and it's out there. So, anyway, Ben Edel, everybody, thank you for coming on the show. I really appreciate it. I'm just getting started with interviewing people. I'm a new podcast. Love it. You know, hopefully I'm gonna get a lot of hits now with you being on here.

SPEAKER_00 53:46

Well, send me the send me the thing, we'll get it shared out, okay?

SPEAKER_01 53:49

All right, I appreciate it, Ben. Thank you very much. Uh welcome. Keep doing keep fighting, and we'll do the same down here in Joko.

SPEAKER_00 53:56

And I'll keep standing with you.