Ranking The Best (And Worst) Truck Brands

In this episode of Slightly Above Average, we settle the ultimate movie franchise bracket, rank every major truck brand into a definitive tier list, and grade this year’s most overhyped Super Bowl commercials. From Marvel vs. Star Wars to why your choice of truck says everything about you, we’re delivering strong opinions on everything

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Transcript

Cold Open Chaos & Banter

SPEAKER_02 0:00

You know what I think the best way to get out of something is just start shitting your pants or something? Honda F tier. You wanna see some bad driving? Just wild shit. Get in the minivan.

Snack Segment: Astronaut Ice Cream

SPEAKER_01 0:14

Welcome back to the slightly above average podcast. Uh super pumped for this week's. We are coming on the back end of the Super Bowl, and we've got our thoughts on everything from the football to the commercials, the halftime show, and probably everything you and your buddies are bitching about in your DMs and on your text message chains today, just like us. I'm pleased to have my buddies Sam Pula and Mr. Joe Minor in the house to uh discuss these things with today. We've also got some pretty cool stuff on the back end. We're ranking some dude stuff. We've got uh a few other topics that Joe's bringing to light here in a little bit. And I'm excited. I'm uh a little bit more excited that more of you guys are actually starting to follow the podcast. And if you're doing that, this would be the time. Hit that subscribe button. Best way that you can support us. And if you feel like it, share it with someone you love or share it with someone you hate. Whatever it is, a share does also help spread the word so we can bring more of these to you guys. So without further ado, let's get into it. Sam, I'm starving, but I'm not eating today. So I hope you got something awesome for us.

SPEAKER_02 1:20

We do, and it's actually something I used to love whenever I was a kid.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

Why are you putting it face down on the table?

SPEAKER_02 1:30

More suspenseful.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

This is Neapolitan ice cream sandwich.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

This is not cold at all. No, it's freeze-dried. It's astronaut ice cream.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

Astronaut ice cream? I've never had this before.

SPEAKER_04 1:40

Have you heard of this?

SPEAKER_02 1:41

I used to, whenever we used to do a lot of field trips to the uh Carnegie Science Center whenever I was in uh like middle school and stuff, and this used to always be a go-to snack. We got 140 cals. Oh my gosh. It's not that bad. This was delivered.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

Can we get these ingredients on screen? I'll take a photo. Look at these! Since it contains the phone. Well, Sam's gonna open this thing up and give you guys a peek into what this sucker looks like. Alright, so if you didn't know, we start every episode with a snack from Sam so we can fuel up to either yell at each other or at least get some some calories in us. And I ate like a gluttonous pig for the Super Bowl, so I'm I'm refraining from eating today. Wow. So it looks just like an ice cream sandwich.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

Yeah, honestly, exactly like an ice cream sandwich.

SPEAKER_01 2:30

Alright, so the ingredients are milk cream, sugar, non-fat milk, corn syrup, whey, and it contains less per less than 2% of co cocoa. It's processed with alkali, it's got natural flavors, artificial flavors, vanilla, an artificial flavor, mono and diglycerides, guar gum, locust bean gum, poly sorbinate 80, carrot green and nanana, citric acid, a nano color, color, red 40, my favorite, and blue one.

SPEAKER_04 3:04

Love me some red 40.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

The wafer now has its own ingredients list. Oh, okay, awesome. Wheat flour, sugar, caramel color, dextrose palm oil, contains less than 2% of corn flour, high fructose corn syrup, modified cornstarch, alkaline cocoa, salt corn syrup, baking soda, mono and diglycerides, and soy lectin. It also has milk, soy, and wheat for your warning's sake. And it's produced in a facility that produces processes eggs, peanuts, sesame, and tree nut ingredients. This, my friends, is the definition of what we're trying to remove from the American diet.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

Did you see the little uh label at the bottom of the nutrition facts? It says it contains a bio-engineered food ingredient.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

The whole thing- this thing looks like it was a shit out of a robot.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

Well, the astronauts gotta make do.

SPEAKER_04 3:52

They gotta get their red 40 and while they're so you've been eating these for years.

SPEAKER_02 3:55

I mean, it's been a long time since I've had one. Where'd you even find this?

SPEAKER_01 3:59

I'm sure Amazon.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Amazon. Jeff right to your house. Yeah, I was like 12 the last time I had one of these, I think.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

Oh why would you want one though? Oh wow. I mean, besides the curiosity of eating like an astronaut.

SPEAKER_02 4:12

That tastes like an ice cream sandwich.

SPEAKER_04 4:14

I wanted to be an astronaut when I was a kid, but not anymore. That's a ice cream sandwich.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

That's not bad.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

But don't you want the cold and the crazy?

SPEAKER_02 4:22

Yeah, that's exactly what my thought was. Yeah, but you don't this way you could have it anywhere. You'd be in the desert.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

That's not the point of it. Like, you don't want an ice cream sandwich everywhere. You want it to enjoy what the ice cream aspect I feel like brings. That's just a cookie. Flavored like ice cream. Exactly like ice cream, though. Wonderful. Really getting stuck in my teeth. It sounds painful. Sorry, I can't indulge, guys. I'm probably getting the most judgment right now in the comment section. It's a hard, it's a hard on over here on his high horse can't eat a freeze-dried ice cream. It's not. It's not terrible. It just like It doesn't seem like it'd be terrible. It's just an interesting, like, why? Good marketing gimmick. I will say, there is a massive, massive social community for freeze-dried stuff. You guys dove in that rabbit hole? It's quite interesting. Remember, we had those freeze-dried Skittles a year or two ago?

SPEAKER_02 5:15

Those were out of control. Yeah, there was a moment on like TikTok where the freeze-dried candies were blowing up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

I'm into it too. Like you eat so much, you eat so much fat shit when you're growing up and getting fat like me. You're like, give me a different means of eating the same fat shit. It's interesting, right? Different. You feel less built. But uh it's not bad. Freeze-dried candy is kind of cool, right? So I think it's actually you can buy a freeze-dryer and do this stuff yourself. I'm pretty sure right next to where you can buy this on Amazon, you can actually buy your own. I feel like we should start doing that in short form, just freeze-dry various things. I feel like it's so it's not a bad idea, actually. Write that down. Can we freeze-dry a hammer and see if it breaks? We could try. Can we play stuff with a freeze-dry hammer? Come on.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

I would hey, I'm I'm down for freeze-dry hammer.

Freeze‑Drying Trends And Gear

SPEAKER_01 6:03

It reminds me of that um that that that uh movie where um it's not it's not your favorite bullet train, but it's the same thing as it's a train movie where all of the globe is frozen over and the people that are left alive live on a train that constantly Snow Piercer. Snow piercer. Okay, so that was a show and a movie. But they would like stick your limb outside if you like broke the law and they freeze your limb off and smash it. It's like freeze-dry your limbs. Open the window. That's what this reminds me of. I literally got served at yesterday on one of those like stupid TikToks while I was taking a dump.

SPEAKER_04 6:37

Part nine, nine hundred and four. You had to go find nine hundred and five. I always wanted to.

SPEAKER_01 6:42

Oh, it's one of those.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

I was like, oh, I've already seen this. I don't need to go rewatch. Yeah, I've never seen the full movie. I've always wanted to see it though, because I kind of like the distosion. The show is considerably better than the movie.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

I gave the show a shot when I was on the treadmill for like a year and a half. The movie's not good. The movie's just like so short and condensed. It's solid. The show just does a lot more better character development and stuff, which I was into. But yeah. Freeze-dried stuff. Are you eating it or are you passing? This one has a considerable volume of junk in it. But like I'm I'm I'd be sick. Like, what would a freeze-dried chicken breast taste like?

SPEAKER_02 7:14

That can't be good. I think the meat's where you start to get into some weird territory. Yeah. I've had the like freeze-dried fruit. Like fruit's difference. Is it freeze-dried or is that just dehydrated? What's the difference?

SPEAKER_01 7:26

One of them uses, I think, uh like liquid nitrogen to freeze shit.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

You told me they just sell this.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

Look it up. Can you look you can buy a freeze-dryer kit? I'm pretty sure. You can do it at home.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

Let's see. A freeze-drying kit. I wonder how much they go for. Oh, only a mere$1,800.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

Well, yeah, you gotta be invested, obviously. Yeah, we bought another process pool. What do you what do you think? You're just getting into freeze drying for like less than what it costs to buy a an oven? Yes. Look at these people freeze drying. Look at that. This is it. Look at that thing on your counter. She's a butte. Oh yeah, look, turkey. They do a lot of meats. Put her right. I mean, it's it's all in that like kind of like bug out, like uh, you know, dystopian vibes. People dig it. I mean, I I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 8:14

Hey, do you have any foods in your bug out bag?

SPEAKER_01 8:16

Me. Me? Yeah. A couple MREs in there, some snack bars, some of that stuff with it. What's the life? Hold on. The the kicker will be does this have an expiration date. Best buy. All that's sad. That is sad. It's written upside down and backwards too. That's a legal. December of 2032. Oh. That's it? Was that an 82?

SPEAKER_00 8:41

I think it's an 83.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

Was it a 28? No, that's a 83?

SPEAKER_02 8:46

What? Ambiguous expiration date.

SPEAKER_01 8:49

December. Oh yeah. Okay, December 2nd 83. 1983 or 2083? Probably 2083. Because that's wild. Have you guys ever seen an expiration date that's that far out?

SPEAKER_02 9:02

That's a benefit of the freeze dry.

SPEAKER_01 9:04

That is a benefit of the freeze dry. That's actually kind of cool. What would you freeze dry if you could? I feel like we uh you should try to freeze dry some shit. I'll do it. But it has to be like, I mean, I want to freeze dry like a white monster or black coffee. Like, what if we could just like top pellets of coffee?

SPEAKER_02 9:19

I don't know if I'd like that.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

Just like beer powder.

unknown 9:22

Right?

SPEAKER_01 9:22

Instead of saying his coffees get cold in the shop like he does literally every single day. I found the coffee in my house that you left there this weekend, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 9:30

I don't think it's meant for liquids.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Who knows, dude? Yeah, they're gonna limit the freeze drive. My dreams over here, Joe, with your negativity on my freeze drive.

SPEAKER_04 9:39

No, no, I just I didn't know what it is meant for.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

I did have a minute where I was like, I should get into dehydrating stuff. And then you look at it and it's like you have to take up like half your house to do it. Yeah, like lay it all. Yeah, it's wild.

SPEAKER_02 9:50

That same exact thought a while ago. It was the same, like we don't have the room.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

It requires an entire industrial facility.

SPEAKER_03 9:56

For what? Freeze dry?

Dehydrators, Bug‑Out Food, And Shelf Life

Super Bowl Was A Snooze

SPEAKER_01 9:57

Because you gotta like lay it out in flat single layers and leave it like that and then store it like that. It's like dehydrating. To dehydrate stuff. So you I'm I'm not talking like making jerky, I'm talking like making meals. People will take a chili and they'll freeze, or excuse me, they'll dehydrate it, but then you have to leave it in like a flat bag until it's full, you know, ready or whatever, and you have to have like pretty much trays just all over the place. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. Almost as wild as that boring ass Super Bowl we had last night. What do you boys think about that, huh? That was horrible.

SPEAKER_04 10:29

It was probably the most boring Super Bowl I think we've seen in the last couple years.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

Period. My entire life. Yeah, I was gonna go out that far, but I mean, it was almost as boring as that um as the Cam Newton Super Bowl. Which was another awful one.

SPEAKER_04 10:43

That was, I forgot about that one. That was terrible.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

The Super Bowl was terrible.

unknown 10:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:47

But Peyton won it at least.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

There's something Which was the only reason it was good.

SPEAKER_04 10:51

It's like the the Chiefs lost to the Eagles, they got blown out. That was exciting because everyone wanted to see the Chiefs get blown out.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Yeah, and there was players in the game, like there was no players in the game yesterday that you were like, I love that dude. You could have argued who won the MVP last night.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

I didn't even know. The kicker, I don't even know. I went to bed. You know one interest the most exciting thing that did happen in that Super Bowl? Did you see the footage? They didn't show it on TV of the guy that stormed the stage. I did see it. Apparently he does this all the time. He's like he's like a Kenneth Walker really well.

SPEAKER_04 11:21

That's fine. I would have given to the kicker. I mean, that's for a little bit there. I think he broke a broke a record.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:26

Six, seven fields in a Super Bowl or something.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

That's dude, it was just it looked like uh honestly, it looked like we were watching the Steelers. Just like couldn't score.

SPEAKER_04 11:33

There were so many jokes about it being just another Thursday night football game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:37

Just disguised as a Super Bowl. Yeah. It was but And I feel like in all honesty, this is gonna go probably get like taken completely wrong, but the fact that it where it was located just made it suck so much more. Like it was in San Francisco. I feel like that just added an element of like no one cares to the Super Bowl, right? You get a Super Bowl that's in like a like a gritty, like, like town in somewhere in America, right? Like people are way more than Dallas, the partying in Dallas for a Super Bowl is like out of control. Yeah. Right? I guess.

SPEAKER_04 12:10

I I guess San Francisco the stadium looked sweet.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

It was weird that it was on the West Coast, like it didn't look good.

Location, Timing, And Presentation Gripes

SPEAKER_04 12:17

The presentation was fine. It's so much entertainment nowadays. Yeah, it was very soft, like the whole thing was soft.

SPEAKER_02 12:23

It was on the West Coast too, so it started so early, so it was like daylight.

SPEAKER_04 12:26

3 30 bowl for them or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

I'm like, that's I don't get me wrong, I like that because like I didn't have to go to bed at like midnight to watch the Super Bowl. Yeah. You know, but I'm I'm cool with like that 6 30 kick. They did the same thing for the Natty, didn't they? Wasn't it the national championship earlier?

SPEAKER_04 12:42

No.

SPEAKER_01 12:42

That was 8 30.

SPEAKER_04 12:43

Yeah, it was 63. No, you know what?

SPEAKER_01 12:44

It was the NFL playoffs. They were having 6 30 games for the for the last two rounds. Which is nuts.

SPEAKER_04 12:51

I don't know, it was just kind of boring to watch. I love Sam Darnold. We all thought the Seahawks would win. I didn't think they'd win how they did. I thought it'd be a little bit more competitive.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

I definitely thought, okay, so like from a football standpoint, like X's and O's, it was a blatantly obvious veteran versus young like team. Like just you know, the Pats offense, you could just tell, shook early. Missing balls. Um offensive line couldn't. Drake May was like the balls were behind guys, he was missing all the pass. Like he was just rattled, it was such a big stage. You could tell it it rattled him. Um, and that's just youth. Uh in my opinion, that's what it looked like. You they couldn't get any rhythm. Um, it was like a defensive standoff that first half, and then Seattle kind of came out of course as well.

SPEAKER_02 13:38

I thought there was like a brief moment at the end. I was like, oh, this might be like the Patriots versus the Falcons, or they're gonna come back in like the fourth quarter because he scored that one touchdown. Like, all right, maybe Drake May's picking up some some momentum that's like interesting.

SPEAKER_01 13:51

Yeah, I just turned it off and then went to bed. It was like pick six, you're not coming back from that. It was like 29 to 6 or something.

SPEAKER_04 13:56

I used to also like love watching the postgame. I didn't watch an ounce of the postgame this year. I don't care, I didn't care.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

It's probably because you guys were very young, and I was young when the Steelers were like going. And it was cool to see the post-game because it was like such a hype.

SPEAKER_04 14:11

Even with I guess the past couple years it's been so boring. It's just so entertainment-based, and I get it, right? They have to promote it. It's just where you're going to Disneyland, like that whole dude.

SPEAKER_01 14:21

They had concerts before, concerts in the middle, concerts. Like it was just like, what the what the hell is going on? Yeah, it used to be just so much. Football was so overshadowed this year, too, because it was it was like lackluster.

SPEAKER_04 14:33

I think they had to. They had to kind of overshadow the football because it wasn't the biggest draw in the world.

SPEAKER_02 14:37

That shit was happening regardless of who was playing, though. Just such a shame to end the season like this. I feel like I've watched so many exciting games from a bunch of different teams this season. Like, this is what we ended on.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

It does suck when the Super Bowl sucks. Yeah. You want to see something at least come down to the wire, like make it like even the both divisional games were better entertainment-wise than views were up 9% from last year, they're saying.

SPEAKER_04 14:59

All-time record with 127.7 million viewers.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

That's crazy.

Ratings Up Despite A Dull Game

SPEAKER_04 15:04

An average of 23.5 million, which is nuts. You wouldn't think that with just how the game went, right? But I guess maybe people were excited it wasn't your generic ass teams you get the past couple years, like the Chiefs and Eagles and just Chiefs and Chiefs.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

I mean the Patriots. They took a brief break from going to the Super Bowl, but they're they're just a different Patriots team.

SPEAKER_04 15:25

I everyone doesn't like them still.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Not the old Patriots.

SPEAKER_04 15:29

But it's a Drake May Patriots. It's kind of whatever.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Yeah, it's it's it's one of those things that it's just more like we don't know why, but the NFL's gonna chalk it up as like a dub. Yeah. And then fans are over, football fans are over here like that's that's that shit was awful. Like it was boring. So it was over at halftime. The whole game was over at halftime.

SPEAKER_04 15:48

I was just strictly watching just for commercials after a certain point. Yeah. I was just more interested in the the breaks and to watch commercials than I was the game.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

Yeah, and those those even sucked.

SPEAKER_04 15:58

Yeah, they weren't that good.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

There wasn't anything that like back like back in the day, you'd get one or two, you were like, yes! Yeah, and that Budweiser commercial could be going. Oh, it was like the best one of some. The Olympics are on.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

That one dude won. The one that looks like Chaz Michael Michaels, or or the one that looks like John Header from Blades of Glory. You know who I'm talking about? No idea what you're talking about. There were a few solid commercials.

SPEAKER_04 16:24

There were a few good ones. I I texted you guys the Bud Light commercial I thought was hilarious. Uh with the dudes. Yeah, rolling down the hill chasing the keg. Yeah, yeah. Hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 16:33

That was solid. And then I I also I like the lean uh excuse me, I like the Chris Hemsworth one with like the AI. Yeah. But that was pretty funny where he was like cut his head off, and then he's like, what do you think? I'm in the pool and I'm swimming, and then it's a closed. Like, I thought that was kind of funny in like kind of like um more or less like shining optics on where a lot of people's heads are with AI.

SPEAKER_04 16:52

It's nuts though that they'd spend eight to ten million dollars for a commercial, and some of them are just kind of like, that's what you put out for that amount of money. You didn't think about this a little bit before. Dude, think about being like Coinbase. How about that? Yeah, I saw some of that.

Ad Review: Hits, Misses, And AI Overkill

SPEAKER_01 17:07

I'm sitting there the whole time, what is this? Sarah's, and and meanwhile, I have my all my kids in the room, my wife's in the room, and they're like bobbing because they're not looking at the screen, and I'm just like and they're like dancing to Backstreet Boys, right? And then it said Coinbase at the end, and I was like, Oh, why? Why did you do that to me? And and and I was this morning, I was seeing the backlash. I follow a bunch of like um uh marketers on Instagram who like talk about advertising marketing because we do it, and they were just like, Yeah, Coinbase has like nothing but negative raps and vibes cross the board, and we have no idea what they were doing with this ad and then blah blah blah. And I was like, Yeah, me neither, man.

SPEAKER_04 17:45

Did you see Mr. Beast's commercial?

SPEAKER_01 17:47

I saw the tail end of it. I s I own wait, there was it was just the commercial on the Salesforce, right?

SPEAKER_04 17:52

Yeah, but it apparently it's like so I looked into it a little bit more because he was like, I'm giving away a million dollars inside this commercial if you figure out the riddle. Apparently, it's like multiple week thing. I don't know. It's just more to it than just that commercial, and I was just kind of like, lost me after that.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Did either of you guys secure your bag of fresh Lay's potato chips? I missed out on the I scanned the QR code, they were already gone. If you did you see that one? It was like if you I don't need to be eating Lay's potato chips. But they were 72 hour fresh or a lifetime supply of Lay's potato chips if they can't fulfill their promise. Imagine that.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

That's actually solid. I I like that a bunch of companies went to nostalgia plays in their advertised, right? So like a bit uh it wasn't a good commercial, I didn't love it, but I'm so curious how Pepsi was able to run that commercial with the with the with the bears. So disrespectful. Because it's like, dude, Pepsi has I no one's even thought about or talked about Pepsi as a drink forever. Like, I don't think Pepsi is even like in the ecosystem of what people still drink. As far as like what it was in the 90s. Yeah. In the competition era wise, falling off a little bit a little bit, a lot of it. Well, yeah Pepsi's a global conglomerate, but it's because of acquisitions and their product offering across the board. I think it's because they're being relevant.

SPEAKER_04 19:06

Yeah, like Poppy. I was just gonna say Poppy keeps them relevant.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

Yeah, their drink's gone.

SPEAKER_04 19:11

They still make money, you know. They do.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Yeah. No, yeah, the business is there. But I can like you would have to think that Coca-Cola has some sort of trademark on those bears. And Pepsi had to do something to like snag that. Because I was like, this is wild. That's like just straight, just like all the idiots on the in the game that are fucking pointing guns and shit. Did Coke even have a commercial this year?

SPEAKER_04 19:37

I don't remember seeing one.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

Neither do I. No. They got a lot of backlash for that last one they did uh that had a bunch of AI in it. There were a lot, that was something that was weird. There was just a lot of AI commercials in general.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Yeah, do you see the Svedka commercial? I did a little digging this morning. That's Fedka, all AI generated from a brand that is completely and utterly irrelevant. Yeah. And then it was awful. I saw one, was it that was that the one with the girl?

SPEAKER_04 19:59

It was like It was all robots.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

It was like the iRobo. The one with the girl was Claude.

SPEAKER_04 20:03

Okay, yeah. She was just talking to the camera in different frames, and it just looked like AI, and I was just kind of like, this is AI. What are they advertising here? And I the Claude one was funny.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

If you know Chat GPT, then you know the Claude one, and it was actually pretty funny.

SPEAKER_02 20:16

Yeah, like how do I think my mom better?

SPEAKER_01 20:19

You gotta think, like, people who are watching the Super Bowl, you might have 20% that understand that commercial. Yeah. What a what a swing and a miss.

SPEAKER_04 20:27

Out of 23 million people at a time watching. Right?

SPEAKER_01 20:30

You're got like my mom and dad have no idea what that commercial meant. Yeah. Like that's the majority of like who still watches television and commercial.

SPEAKER_04 20:36

Which is crazy. You would think they would try to cater stuff to more like you know, educating that audience that doesn't know about it.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Which is why that which is goes into like the we'll probably talk about it here in a sec, the halftime show is typically like geared towards that, like those older generations that are just more entertained by T. Like they're not going online to be entertained as much.

SPEAKER_04 20:56

I think what's weird is it's almost as if the NFL specifically nowadays is marketing towards the younger generation and and kind of forgetting about the generation that has the money to spend on these things.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:06

You know, like the halftime show is just an example. It's for the younger generation, but the people there at the event are either influencers that got invited there or they're people that have the money to spend who go there.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

So that's the thing, is like I th I actually think it's flipped, in my opinion. I think the NFL is quite they 100% are completely well aware that the demographic of people who have money and are going to buy shit are gonna watch regardless. So they might as well go get new eyeballs from somewhere else, yeah, and then just deal with the bitching and complaining and the that's a good point because they'll deal with it. Like yeah, I mean, like we're watching football regardless. They were up in viewers from last year, so clearly, like and you're like, you got all these things everyone's making all this negative hoopla about in the Super Bowl, yet I still turned it on and watched for hours.

SPEAKER_04 21:51

Yeah.

Halftime Strategy And Demographics

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Right? You're not wrong. And I it's because I'm a football fan, and like they know that. And so I think that that has a massive play into it. They're like the ignorance towards it. And it's uh it kind of goes towards like um like uh you know like the Kodak marketing model where Kodak refused to see where the market was going and instead just continued to market like you know traditional camera and film and those things and they invented digital cameras and then did nothing with it. The NFL's doing the opposite, right? They're like, oh, we'll just go to where all the new eyeballs are and we'll continue to bring those in because the if even if we have a 20% loss in the massive pool of people who will continually show up, they can refill that by going in and get new eyeballs on it. And I I think that has a lot to do with how they've been marketing recently, which which is like why people are upset.

SPEAKER_04 22:36

Yeah. You know, it's not catered to they have an untapped international audience as well, so I think they're seeing that in the potential.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

That's the whole bad money play. He's like, I had no idea who this dude is. Literally not never heard of him before the Super Bowl thing. Not a single time in my life have I've heard of that. Oh really? And I'm not you know what I mean? It's like, oh, now I know about the guy. That's exactly what they wanted.

SPEAKER_04 23:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

They're like, we're gonna expose this person regardless if you like him or not, and then he's gonna bring his you you look into it, you get served one thing on the internet this morning, global superstardom. Yeah, right? I heard one guy say he's the second biggest superstar on the planet to Taylor Swift.

SPEAKER_04 23:16

Yeah. Is he really? Is he really? He had a run, man, where you could probably argue he might have been bigger than Taylor Swift. I don't know the stats, but like he was when I was in college, yeah, he was coming up, my roommates listened to him and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 23:28

But regardless, like you gotta think that much influence, and then to be as unheard of as he is in like, let's just say the 30 to 55-year-old male demographic in America is exactly why they put that guy on the stage.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

I will say, I feel like a lot of the musical acts they want to hit that sweet spot of like like later 20s to mid-30s, because like you had him, like I feel like Kendrick Lamar fits that. Like Usher, that was a play, like okay, people in like their mid-late 30s, right?

SPEAKER_01 23:54

It used to be like the 30s to 50 year olds. Like, let's play into that. They're definitely going younger now. Now they're going because they're like, we're showing up regardless. That's what I think it is. Yeah. And that's what I think all the commercials did too. That's why they were hitting on the nostalgia stuff, like the uh like the Goodwill Duncan. That was a good one. Yeah, that was a good one. And you could tell it was fake, which I think made it even better. When you're looking at like the young Tom Brady and the young Jennifer Anderson, literally everyone kept calling that out. Is that Urkel?

SPEAKER_04 24:20

Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

Carlton was there.

SPEAKER_04 24:22

Carlton was there, and they looked like in their prime, and now I was just thinking, is this real?

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:26

No.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

But like Goodwill Hunting for us, for me, I was a young man when that movie came out, and generationally it like put it obviously put Ben Affleck and Matt Damon on the map. But it also was like a massive impact on film in general. Yeah. It was a great movie, and uh it has no longevity, I would say, in regards to what it's like accredited to for film. Like it doesn't get brought up on the lists and stuff. So to do that drawback is nothing but a nostalgia play to like millennials or 40-year-olds, like whatever their generations are called.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:58

But I thought it was pretty savvy. And Duncan's been doing that a lot because Duncan's losing a lot of market share. Yeah. Um, so is so is Starbucks, too, to like mom and pa and small batch and all that. So they literally just gotta they gotta keep the consumer that they know likes them and you know, yeah, starting them.

SPEAKER_02 25:13

Starbucks is getting desperate. They're throwing anything and everything they can in their coffee, right? Now it's like you want olive oil in it, you want protein powder? Whatever you want. Are you like that? Here, we got that too. Please don't forget about us.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Sarah had me drive through yesterday and grab her like a pistachio latte or something, and she's 38 weeks pregnant, so like she can not stomach some stuff. And she's like, it's the only thing I get that I don't like heartburn. I'm like, what makes it? Really? Yeah, how did you figure that one out? That's nuts. But then it was$4.85, and I was like, I wanted to just throw it right back inside the Starbucks. Because I was like, it's not the price anymore, it's the price of gouging. Like, I understand I'm paying for service and I can't make this at home and all that, but I'm like, it's a fucking coffee with like a pistachio foam on it.

SPEAKER_02 25:59

Yeah, we're getting to that point too. I feel like it used to be like Starbucks was was expensive, but it's like, well, you absolutely don't have the means to make this at home, but there's just more and more machines that are coming out for like lesser and lesser like price values, where it's like you could make this at home. You get a milk for author for like 20, 30 bucks, like even like what those like little Nespresso machines, like a hundred bucks, like and the prices of Starbucks just keep getting higher and higher. And then you're right, they're more ridiculous. What's going in it? Oh, it's crazy. I saw an interview with their CEO where he was talking about like the younger generation, they're very health conscious. That's why they are doing the weird stuff with the olive oil or like the protein cold foam, or they had something else recently, I can't remember, but they're slapping protein labels on all kinds of shit.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

Like we got like uh some protein, Sarah bought some protein stuff or whatever. And I looked at the label and it has eight grams, it's like a protein Pop Tart. Yeah. And eight grams of protein, 32 grams of carbs. I'm like, you lying sacks of shit. This is a terrible Pop Tart. It's just because it's not a th two grams of protein Pop Tart. Now it's eight. You're like, get the hell out of it.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

I feel like that's like our generation's version of like like whenever they said the fat-free marketing or that. Like, what's the other one? Chloe Kardashian. She's a protein popcorn.

SPEAKER_04 27:10

Speaking of the Kardashians, you guys don't really follow the NBA. I don't as much anymore, but um Yeah, the commercial went right over. It was it, was it Kylie Jenner? Was it the Jenner that did it? No, it was Kendall. Kendall, Kendall Jenner. Her commercial was actually hilarious. Um I I had texted you guys the Fanatics Sportsbook. Um, like there's this lore that she's dated so many NBA players, and they all suck after they break up with her. And so they played into it, and I thought it was just like for the younger generation, a hilarious commercial. Um that's a I would I considered signing up for the sports book after that one. I'm like, that that is great marketing. Like that stuff's genius. Playing into like the lore of Twitter and Instagram and TikTok and all these comment sections, like thriving into that is nuts. I thought that was a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

That's because where consumers are actually at. Like, that's where they actually are, it's where they talk, it's where the conversations are, and for marketers in general, like you want to meet your market where they are, not try to drive them to something new. And uh it and I that's why you see the brilliance in it. I mean, you hate it or love it or whatever it is, like their household names, right? And I think I love that I didn't see it, but it's I think it's awesome that you're saying that they leaned into like the negative side of like getting shit on it.

SPEAKER_04 28:19

She's just sitting there openly talking about everyone I break up with is they do terrible after, so we might as well go bet on it.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

No one leaves that family for the better.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

No, she's saying that go bet on it, you know. This force book speaking of this is this m this this might be the clip from this episode. I saw something this morning that Mark Wahlberg's daughter is dating some dude. She's like in college, right? She's dating a guy and told the guy that Mark Wahlberg would be at the Super Bowl. He's a he's from New England. Oh no, he's he's a fan, right? And so that dude had his entire fraternity put a bag on it, and then you could bet on one of these whatever, yeah, and they hit, right? And then the guy in this clip I saw this morning was just like hyping her name out there. She'd be like, praise be to whatever her name is. And I was like, Did you see how do you avoid insider trading on top of that? In regards to like these sports books.

SPEAKER_04 29:18

The sports books nowadays, they showed the color of the Gatorade before the game ended. I I was watching last night. I've never seen that ever. Like, you can bet on the color of the Gatorade. Ballers have been able to bet on that.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

You can bet on it, they always load the Super Bowl with insane prop bets. But you can do this shit on like a Thursday night like C-League basketball game. Yeah.

Starbucks Prices, Health Halo, And Protein Hype

SPEAKER_04 29:38

But like they showed the color of the Gatorade. They were mixing it and stuff, and I'm like, there's no way they're dumping that one. They can't do that. There's all these bets on it and stuff. It was yellow, and lo and behold, it's a yellow bath. I'm thinking to myself, I have never once seen that. Like, I don't even could you still I didn't know if you could still place a bet or not after they showed it. There was five minutes left in the game.

SPEAKER_01 29:57

That's wild.

SPEAKER_04 29:58

I'm like, what the f That is wild.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

Yeah, yeah. So that's what Fanatics is doing now?

SPEAKER_02 30:02

I they have a sports book. Everyone has a sports book. Everyone does. I logged into my Robin Hood the other day. It's like the predictions market. You can bet on the weather.

SPEAKER_04 30:09

Who the f is betting on the weather? That's like a caliche. What's the one? Calci. Calci, yeah. You can bet on everything.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

It's taken over every like awards ceremony, like the Golden Globes, like instead of like having like the uh recipients of the award up, they're like the poly market says there's like an 82% uh chance Timothy Chalamet is gonna win this. Like, what why? It's just all betting now. Everything's betting.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

People gotta get their fix. I actually saw a hilarious interview from before the game where some guy with like a tiny Calchi microphone was walking around interviewing NFL players and asking them what their favorite Bad Bunny song was, and not a single one knew a single bad bunny song.

unknown 30:43

Right?

SPEAKER_01 30:45

But the whole time I'm looking, I'm like, this is brilliant, Cowchy. Like, I I didn't know what the hell you were until it was that. Then it was like place your bets, blah blah blah. Yeah, what it is gets you after. Too funny.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

I was thinking about that on the way into work because there was all the uh controversies, like the halftime shows and stuff. I'm like, it's just the worst Super Bowl. It's like you get the Patriots, the Seahawks, Bad Bunny, Kid Rock. There it is. It's just like a bunch of bullshit.

SPEAKER_04 31:09

Yeah. We just want some football, man. That's all we want. We want some good football, yeah. You know who we wanted there. We wanted Rogers and Caleb Williams. That would have fed families. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

Would have fed families. Two generational quarterbackers.

SPEAKER_04 31:21

Could you imagine the Steelers dysfunction at that level at the Super Bowl? And then you combat it with the Bears, who just are in every close game you could ever do. That would have been so good. Like it would have been cinema.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

It went down to double overtime.

SPEAKER_04 31:34

Caleb Williams back foot, 360 into the end zone, intercepted, then fumbled, then touched some bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

You do got to recognize that like Seattle was playing incredible football. So like they did deserve to be.

SPEAKER_04 31:45

Oh no, they played.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

They did. They were phenomenal. The AFC could have put a team out there. Like I guess that New England had the easiest schedule in the NFL this year.

SPEAKER_04 31:54

I think any other AFC team probably would have did better.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

I don't know about that, but they're definitely the top.

SPEAKER_04 31:59

Oh, I I'm convinced at this point they a lot of them would have did better.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

I think that the other every other team that made this, the, the, the uh playoffs, yes.

SPEAKER_04 32:08

Yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah. Like not every team. Like you're up with the Dolphins. Yeah, yeah, not the Dolphins. I mean the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01 32:13

The Browns aren't going up.

SPEAKER_04 32:15

Yeah, specifically the playoffs. Maybe not the Steelers, but Bills, I think, would have put up a great fight.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

Like, that might be the Steelers' thing. It's like you just gotta get in two weeks to get it. Even Denver, I think Denver's defense probably would have done a little better. Denver, I think Denver beats New England, though, with Bo Nicks. Yeah. You know, and and and at home, all that all those factors.

SPEAKER_04 32:37

Everything. Yeah, it was just a lot. I mean, that then the halftime show. The one thing I will say, I love the production of the halftime show.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

The production was phenomenal.

SPEAKER_04 32:45

It was actually super cool, like the camera angles they got. There was one point where they were directly over him.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:50

Like, I was like, that's a sick hit.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

It was like a I didn't I because I didn't know what was being said the entire time. That's all I could follow.

SPEAKER_04 32:58

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

I I thought Bruno Mars was gonna pop out a moment when uh Lady Gaga. I know I knew you were pumped for that.

SPEAKER_04 33:05

I could I knew that when I saw her, I was like, Sam's probably screaming.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars had that banger song uh because Bruno Mars got himself in a wee bit of debt, and then Lady Gaga was like, I'll help you out. We'll make this song and sell it. I don't know if you ever get out of that debt, but uh I have no idea what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

But you never heard that? I know Bruno Mars is a degenerate and like got himself into some trouble. He's he's hey dude. That man, that man gets after it. Live your life, Bruno. I'm not judging, I'm just saying it.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

Whenever I saw it, it's like he owes a bunch of money to MGM. I'm like, this is probably for a movie or a record. No, it's gambling. He was betting on the wrong Gatorade that night.

Sportsbooks, Prop Bets, And Gatorade Leaks

SPEAKER_01 33:40

The uh he makes bangers though. I guess this actually going back to like your betting. I guess Bruno Mars, this is the first year he's ever been nominated for a Grammy and didn't win it. Oh so like I didn't know he was nominated. Yeah. Uh for that Apa APT song. Ah, but you don't have kids. My daughters love this song. It was like he got he got snubbed, if you ask me. But yeah, I guess at every other time he's been nominated, he's won a Grammy at every do you watch the Grammys? Me?

SPEAKER_04 34:10

Yeah, absolutely not. Okay, sorry, it sounded like you did. I guess all the stuff we get yelled at for watching, I guess. Okay, if that was the one thing you were watching, I would have laughed.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

My short form feed is just all people talking about things happening, and so I just scrubbed through it, right? And uh my like I said, my my kids love that that song, and it was a big thing because it had a female Korean pop star was his co-like person. So she'd have been the first uh female Korean pop star to win one. Uh and because she didn't, it was all over like, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 34:41

Um K-pop demon hunters movie kids love.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

That was different too. That got snubbed for Song of the Year to Billie Eilish. Oh a lot of people think. Uh that's interesting. We won't get into that.

SPEAKER_04 34:52

Last thing in the NFL, do you guys uh like the uh Toyota did a really good uh commercial?

SPEAKER_01 34:57

I that's I missed that. So I had to put my kids on the middle of the game.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

I think I I know it was like a nostalgia one, or it was like a like a father-son one, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_04 35:04

Yeah, it was like uh Oh wait!

SPEAKER_02 35:06

I actually do remember that, and I'll tell you what my exact reaction was to it. They started the commercial, there was this pristine vintage Rav 4, and I was like, man, I remember when Rav4s used to look like that, and then the dad gets old and he's hobbling out. He's like, Come on, dad, hop in the new RAV4. And I was like, look what they've done to it. They mutilated it. What have they done to the Rav 4? I couldn't even focus on the commercial because I was so pissed off seeing the OG Rav 4 and then that piece of shit they roll out and put there. There you go, dad, hop into this.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

So does I'm I don't even know what an OG RAV4 looks like.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

Oh, you've never seen one Rab Cruiser or RAF. I literally just saw one on Marketplace. It's so clean, but it has like 280,000 miles on it. Probably has another 400,000 to go. Yeah, there it is. Oh, that car's awful. John, that's that?

SPEAKER_04 35:53

That's so sick to look at. What are you two talking about? Just look at it. It just looks like uh it looks funny to me. I think they're so clear.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

It looks like a stupid little Suzuki truck. Show them the new one. Oh, the uh the Suzuki Samurai. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:07

See, it's where I love the new RAF. I think the new RAV 4 is six.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

Look what they've done to it. That thing's a pig. Look at the size of it. The RAV 4 used to be small versatile. They're just too big.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

What do you mean too big?

SPEAKER_02 36:20

Too big for what? They're too big. Well, there's a whole thing about this. It's established. The reason vehicles are so big right now, I think I told you about this, it's a loophole for like fleet fuel economy standards. So if it's over a certain size, it doesn't have to adhere to the same standards as a smaller one. That's why trucks are so plump now. Like the average uh I think like I think you forget that Americans are huge.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

Yeah, but look at it'cause you're not.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

Yeah, but I'm saying it makes no sense that a new Ford Ranger like is the same size as an old F-150. Like Yes, it does. No, they're too big. People are larger. The inside isn't that bad. Like, I've got there's older trucks I've been in that you could you could fit in that brown ranger out there just barely.

unknown 37:05

Come on.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

That's a full-size F-150. Yeah, but even the engine bays and the bodies themselves, they're just absurdly large. It was big enough. It was big enough in like 70s, 80s, the 90s. The 90s was like, I feel like cream of the crop, last time vehicles were the proper size, proper look. They were engineered well enough. It was not uncommon to get a vehicle from the 90s, have it go two, three hundred thousand miles now.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

I'm not saying the quality of has gone up.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

He's the same from the size.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

You have no respect for the big man. No, no, not at all.

SPEAKER_02 37:38

Well, like your dad's a big man. Yeah, and he fits just fine in this older video. He's probably miserable. He's probably by his back knees. He's tall. His knees are probably buckled up. He's 6'4. He used to uh he fits in an Astro van. He used to have a Ford Club wagon chateau. You ever see that? That's French for castle. That van was a castle. Inflatable lumbar support in the seats. Isn't a manual pump? I could use some of that. No, it's battery. Really? Yeah. They don't even have those in newer vans.

Bad Bunny Debate And Global Reach

SPEAKER_01 38:04

I'm not yeah, I'm the the bigger vehicles. I'm I get what you're saying, but like families don't fit in these vehicles. Like families are larger. Like a car seat didn't exist when you were talking about when cars were properly sized. You could fit a children sat on the bench of the truck. Like, so now you put a car seat in. No, no, no, you don't have this problem because I do. You could get a Kia Carnival and fit even more family in there. You can't get three kids, but that's a giant van. Yeah. You get three kids across on the backseat of anything. You they build the cars to fit families that are buying them. My issue isn't the amount of little go to f Europe.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

Can't even get it there anymore. But my issue isn't that issue isn't the amount of people you fit in it. It's the size of it itself. It's just that's why they're bigger, though. They're fit the people. It makes no sense that a new F-150 is like arguably like 60% bigger than a F-150 from the 90s, and it's got a smaller bed, it's all about cargo size. Like you get a you can't even get an eight-foot bed unless you get a fleet model.

SPEAKER_01 39:09

The people and the things in it are larger.

SPEAKER_00 39:11

What do you not understand the making of the cab bigger because people and things are bigger? SUV, you don't get a truck. Why? You still need a bed.

SPEAKER_02 39:21

Well, then that should be an option, but it shouldn't be the standard. It has become the standard. Mark and Sapper.

SPEAKER_04 39:27

Well, you're also the SUVs are way more expensive. So, like, for example, the comp to the F-150, probably size-wise, if you are in the market for a vehicle like that, is an expedition. Yep. Expeditions are 90,000 compared to a model, like a F 50 beam. You know what?

SPEAKER_02 39:41

There was a solution to that, but we got rid of it. It was called the four-door sedan. We used to build a few of those in the United States, but now we don't even make them.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

Maybe that's too small, though. You can't do it. You don't, you see, the thing is, you do not have a family, so therefore you don't understand that that's who buys these vehicles.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

I understand, but I'm saying, okay, for example, like let's say you have a family, uh, let's say you have one kid. Do you think if you have two parents, one kid, you get away with a four-door sedan?

SPEAKER_00 40:07

Sure. Okay. You go on vacation, you rent a van because you can't fit any of your stuff in a four-door sedan.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

And you know what? Oh, this is actually a great point right here. The minivan. The death of the minivan. The minivan used to be a cost-friendly family vehicle. You got a big family, you don't want to spend SUV bucks, no problem. Get in the minivan. But now it's just SUV, SUV, crossover. No one even wants a crossover. And I don't like a crossover either, but you know.

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Where are you going with this? You made zero points though.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

You just said I'm saying I'm saying SUVs and trucks are like so big right now, like the minivan, minivans are gone. Ford doesn't make a minivan, Chevy doesn't make a minivan. They're not stupid. Minivans. I'm very interested in the. They're affordable, they're front-wheel drive, they're aerodynamic, they're good on gas. No, they don't. Yeah, they're lower to the ground. Straight up and down on the ground.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

Yeah. Hire the we're kind of making a vehicle closer to God.

SPEAKER_02 40:59

We took a uh what did we take? It was a Pacifica.

SPEAKER_04 41:02

I'd I would say that thing drove nice. I'd rather drive the Ford.

SPEAKER_01 41:06

I'd rather drive a Miata from the 90s with the lowest quality engine. I can make that happen.

SPEAKER_02 41:11

My aunt has a miles than a minivan. That's an enthusiast like dream car. Like most of the cards.

SPEAKER_01 41:16

I'd rather drive a Honda Cord from the 90s. As a solid video. Do you want me to look up here?

SPEAKER_02 41:20

I hate Ford Wind Star.

SPEAKER_01 41:22

Look up the Ford Wind Star. I cannot get behind Team Minivans, especially because it's a very good thing. Alright, man, you get disgusting. You can get a four-wheel drive. He lost it in this shit. Yeah. I'm on four-wheel drive. Also, why would I want to sit on the ground while I'm driving? It's more comfortable. It's not hard. Get me in the air.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

I don't think it's a worse ride. You're low to the ground like that. According to who? Anyone that drives a vehicle. Literally just you, because you hate jacked up anyway. Okay, okay, the why F1 cars, they're low to the ground, right? Because they're built for speed racing performance. Which is not what a minivan is built for. Well, literally Joe, Joe, look at 89% of cars. Joe, look up slammed vans right now. See, I grew up having one of these vans. That's yeah, Chrysler Grand Grand Caravan?

SPEAKER_01 42:05

Yeah. No, anti-minivan. Okay, so this is spiraling completely out of control. So you're telling me that you like the RAV 4 when it looked like a toy car.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

I like the RAV 4 when car companies were brave enough to have bold styling in their vehicles and they didn't just conform to a general.

SPEAKER_04 42:23

So you love the cyber truck then? You know, I respect me.

SPEAKER_02 42:29

I respect the Cybertruck for breaking the mold of a conventional looking pickup truck. Do I think Tesla has good quality control in their vehicles? Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_04 42:40

But you like the truck. You'd buy one and maybe.

Truck Design Rants: Size Creep And Minivan Wars

SPEAKER_02 42:42

I didn't say I would buy one. I said I respect the fact that they were willing to take a risk with their drive one. Would I drive one? I mean, I would be open to testing it. I would I wouldn't want to own a cyber truck personally. Why not? I just don't think electric pickup trucks. I just don't think we're there yet to have a full electric pickup truck. And I think even the automotive uh industry knows that. That's why they're killing the lightning and then coming out with the new version of it that has like a gas motor.

SPEAKER_01 43:08

Because they're like it's because the infrastructure of the United States can't sustain full electric, which was a supervisor. Well yeah, but it makes sense. I actually will say owning one and been driving it for years, quite convenient to never go to a gas station. Yeah. But I mean, there is the downside. Like, if I didn't have multiple vehicles, I would definitely be like, don't have that as your vehicle.

SPEAKER_02 43:25

That's what I'm saying. Haven't even a small engine in there to power that battery. You could go on cross-country road trips with it. Yeah, not that.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

That's the biggest hindrance. Like it's cold, right? Like real cold. They're not built for that. Like you turn it.

SPEAKER_04 43:37

I'm losing your truck's either going way up in value or way down, either or.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

The thing is, like I I mean, I I own it, so like I don't care. Yeah. Um and it's convenient for me to just buzz back and forth from here to work and around like where we I don't take it anywhere. Um But yeah, I I won't argue against the the electric truck thing. What I will argue is that you are Battling back and forth on like things that are were absolutely I'm pretty sure like that original RAV 4 was like one of the worst rollouts that Toyota ever did in regards to the case. I love to see like a Toyota truck. You should look up crash ratings at trucks. That's interesting. Toyota is like my wife had a um forerunner. Don't like yeah, she had a forerunner for a minute. That thing, but it sits on a truck frame.

SPEAKER_05 44:22

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 44:23

That's why I like it.

SPEAKER_05 44:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:24

I don't want to drive on the ground in a minivan or on a like a shitty little.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

Yeah, well, I'm not saying do I wholeheartedly dislike SUVs? No. My issue is that with both trucks and SUVs, I feel like they've been they're marketed so much to like everyone that every consumer out there is like, I either want a big truck or an SUV. There's no demand for these smaller vehicles or these kind of more like Correct, there's no demand for them.

SPEAKER_01 44:52

I know, but I I don't think you want there to be demand for something that doesn't is not necessary.

SPEAKER_02 44:57

I think that some people buy SUVs and trucks that don't necessarily need them. They just want that bigger goal.

SPEAKER_01 45:04

Shut your mouth. Like you have so many good. Back in the day, sedans were enormous. The only reason they got smaller was because fuel efficiency improved the quality of the fuel standard, right? Or some shit like that. And then also it was a juxtaposition to giant vehicles. Yeah, but that was so you're more in support of the downsizing of the sedan and everything. You just want to see small little British vehicles.

SPEAKER_02 45:32

I want I want to see that option out there. Why?

SPEAKER_01 45:36

That's that's the allies of the industry.

SPEAKER_02 45:39

Like, like I'd love to see like a station wagon back. Remember, Dodge had the power wagon? You ever see that?

SPEAKER_01 45:44

Yeah, we might have one pretty soon. But that's the power wagon's actually a truck.

SPEAKER_02 45:48

Well, I'm talking about the the one after the uh the bailout. It was after the bailout, right? See if you could find it, Jaya. Wow, how to bring it up. I'm just saying there should be more options out there because I feel like what happens is if you're like a consumer trying to buy a new car, it's either like you're gonna get the cheapest possible foreign sedan there is, or welcome to SUV Truckland where we're spending forty, fifty thousand dollars. Americans have a lot of stuff. Yeah, we might be getting one. No. Oh no, Joe, it was called the Magnum, the Dodge Magnum. That's that was it. Yeah, Joe, what do you think about that? We got that. Yeah, that wow. Yeah, look at the magnum. Um there you go. Tell me, tell me you wouldn't drive this after he screenshots it. I I I I I'm a firm. Like I honestly's stupid.

SPEAKER_00 46:33

No, it's not the dodge.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

It's the first why don't you own it? Well, uh because it's stupid. Well, there's not many out there. It's so long. It's like a long beat. It's boxing and long. I think you might as well buy a Ford Flex. Go buy a Subaru. I think they made an SRT8 version of this, too. I mean, Dodge just put that SRT8 in everything. Yeah, Dod, Chrysler in general.

SPEAKER_01 46:55

Probably a Hellcat in that as well. Chrysler's another one.

SPEAKER_02 46:57

They that they don't always have the best quality control, but my goodness, they'll throw out some wild ideas. You're not wrong.

SPEAKER_01 47:03

Yeah, they're dying, they're throwing shit at the wall.

SPEAKER_04 47:05

So, I mean, that let's understand Polymor. That leads me perfectly into our next segment. We're gonna rank truck brands. Wow. S tier to F tier. There's only one. There's a lot. There's a lot on the only one.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

Probably actually, I don't know. We we'll probably agree on it.

SPEAKER_04 47:22

And stir the pot. Yeah, you know, we want the audience to chime in in the comment section. We all are gonna lean a certain way and be very biased, I feel like, to one brand, but because it's the only.

SPEAKER_02 47:33

Who I want to hear Paula's opinion on that. Would it throw off anything? Yeah, if you want to go real quick. Sweet, thank God.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

He got hydrated for this. This is uh Sam's uh usually living on one glass of one one 10-ounce glass of water a day. He must have been hydrating this morning, getting ready to rock and roll, Joe. With that being said, let's talk about this week's sponsor. Me. No, in all honesty, if you guys want to support me and the boys and the podcast, the best thing you can do right now is check out the Builder Bunker. We do an early release on the pod every week, as well as a bunch of other exclusive content that you can only get from everything we're doing here at the John Maleki Company. Um, whether it's behind the builds, build kind of insights, we've got stories, all kinds of cool stuff. My favorite being that we live stream all the time with our fans and our community, hang out, getting to know a lot of these people, BSing about what's going on in their lives, what's going on in ours, all kinds of stuff while we're doing builds, while we're shooting our YouTube videos. It's awesome. Um, one of the cooler things that we're uh doing here this year. And so check out the Builder Bunker. Awesome way to support me and the boys if you're into that kind of thing. Or you can go and grab yourself some merch or one of our products at the John Maleki store. Um so with that being said, Sam's back. And let us know what you want to hear more of in the comment section. We do read that. Yeah, one too many call to actions there, but but if you do have something you'd love to hear us talk about, we do unfortunately give obvious benefit to our bunker members first and foremost. They get the they get the thumbs up um most of the time. So appreciate you guys. Sam's drained the dragon. Now, what do you got for us here, Joe?

SPEAKER_04 49:13

We are going to be ranking truck brands on a S tier, A tier, B, C. The internet's favorite. John's favorite.

SPEAKER_01 49:22

The S tier rankings? Yes. I still don't understand it, but I'm into it.

SPEAKER_04 49:25

So I I have this here. We can just reference this. I'm gonna make it after.

SPEAKER_01 49:28

Alright, so we're talking literally only truck.

SPEAKER_04 49:31

Whole body of I guess like Sam and I were going back and forth. Yes, just truck, not cars. Okay. Just trucks. Just trucks.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

There's only two.

SPEAKER_04 49:41

Alright, let's start out light. Jeep. The gladiator.

SPEAKER_02 49:45

Did I see the tier list? Uh the Jeep truck? The Jeep Gladiator. I'm gonna give it a C tier. I it's gotten pretty horrible reviews, but I do respect the fact that they're willing to put out a truck that you could rip all the doors and the roof off of and have a manual transmission. So this man's lovely.

SPEAKER_04 50:08

I will say I've heard some good things, bad things also about gladiators. Yeah, a lot of bad things. Some of their nicer, more expensive ones. I've seen some really sick content on. They're just cool.

SPEAKER_02 50:18

Jeep in general is a brand that like Kristen's family, they're big Jeep people. And I and I I love the concept of it so much. Do I wish that they were that they didn't hold their value so hard for a vehicle that is usually riddled with so many problems? Oh dude, they are such a but they're they're cool.

SPEAKER_01 50:37

I hate driving them. Yeah, they don't you feel like you're driving in an unfinished box of trash.

SPEAKER_04 50:42

Yeah, I'd say C tier. Leave it at C.

SPEAKER_01 50:44

And I've never driven the that the truck, but like my buddy had one, got rid of it after like nine months, couldn't use it for anything. Yeah. I'm going on his perspective alone. It'd be an F tier for me.

SPEAKER_02 50:54

I was giving it a D to give it a bump up because I think it's shit, but I I like I said I respect a lot of what the the the the vibe of the brand, but I you gotta you got a couple missing here, Joe.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

So I'm gonna we're gonna be throwing these out there too.

SPEAKER_04 51:04

Okay, we can.

SPEAKER_01 51:05

Alright, while we while we start at the bottom here, let's uh there's another one that you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_04 51:08

Alright, we got uh I'm going in a random order. I'm not going in order. Okay. Tesla, the Cybertruck.

SPEAKER_01 51:15

I've never driven one as well. It's gotta be C, and I think the only reason it's getting that high for me is because it was the first full-size truck that was fully electric. And um supposedly it's got some great specs, but I've never driven one. Yeah, I'm not like huge into the look of it. Now the B2 that they were supposedly coming. I didn't see that's still coming. That thing's uh it looks pretty sweet.

SPEAKER_02 51:40

I'll throw it in C2, the same reason as Jeep. I respect a lot of the interesting things they do that are different than the rest of the market, but I just don't feel like they ever fully follow through. Like they they have a great idea, but it's just not executed as good as it should be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:55

Um, up next we have Ram.

SPEAKER_02 51:59

I just want to say that for any of these, I'm just going off my gut feelings. I'm not an expert in any of these brands, but my gut feeling with Ram, it's just big, loud, bold, aggressive, just wild shit, but uh I don't know. Just the I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go D tier. I'm gonna go D on the Ram. I'm sorry. It's just I got a thing with it. I'm just not a big Ram guy personally. My mom had a Dodge growing up, she had a Durango, just rusted out so bad. Body, they look they look cool.

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SPEAKER_01 52:29

The the bodies on them look cool, but so I'm going B, and that's only because I have nothing left that you could possibly say that's going to be a B. And also, I have two two buddies in my life that uh I highly respect their opinions. And for the larger trucks, the trucks in the two, three thousand, like three-quarter ton and up categories, Ram does put a pretty good truck out there. Their lower tier trucks sucks, but and according to guys I know that are running trucks all day, they tow, they're like, they run fleets, the Ram trucks where they prefer. Now it was better the last decade hasn't been great for them. Yeah, it was the remember, I'm older than you guys, so like I've been driving for 20 some years that you guys haven't. Ram had a great run, and um, and I think if you get in like some of the older models, they're they're better a better truck than what's out there for the city. I have an C tier.

SPEAKER_04 53:32

I I think it's like it's a fine truck. I mean, I yeah, I don't drive you know a RAM enough. I know people that own Rams and they like them.

SPEAKER_01 53:39

They were these are just dudes that I know work on trucks, and then I also know a dude that's an engineer for um you know their uh their Cummins. I was gonna say you get the Cummins is a different animal. So you gotta equate it to it. Yeah. And and you know, Cummins makes a really damn good end.

SPEAKER_04 53:57

Product aside, I think the only downside with RAM is some of the fleck they get for people that drive the Ram drivers.

SPEAKER_02 54:02

Oh, there's so many memes out there where it'll be like a picture of like two headlights just tailgating someone like the average Dodge Ram driver.

SPEAKER_04 54:09

Yeah, I think that's like why it's probably so low.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Their Super Bowl commercials. I'll never forget this one because I thought it was just such a bold move. It was this guy like polishing his old 1960s Challenger, and this new one comes like ripping in his farm, and these two girls come running out, and it's like Dodge, everyone loves one till they come for their daughter. And I'm like, what who are you guys advertising this to?

SPEAKER_01 54:35

Like, those are the people that can afford these things is before it just became because it's just RAM now. Yeah. So it's like they're their own brand. Anyway, yeah, that's why it's B for me. What else?

SPEAKER_04 54:48

Well, up next we got Nissan. F.

SPEAKER_02 54:52

Whoa, whoa, easy now.

SPEAKER_01 54:54

Now, now I will say Go back to making SUVs and your little cars. No, I would. Get out of the truck.

SPEAKER_02 55:03

I'll I'll throw Nissan. I mean, I I'll throw them on a solid. Actually, they're full size. They have uh don't they have Cummins in there? They're full size.

SPEAKER_01 55:11

It's like they're it's like they're uh D tier Cummins, yeah. I'm still gonna I don't know if they actually still do, but they did for a minute.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

I'm gonna throw it at C tier only because I've heard good things about the new Frontier. I actually watched a video comparing the new Frontier to the new Tacoma, and there's some cool stuff in there. One thing I don't like, you know, they're putting water pumps inside of uh crankcases now.

SPEAKER_04 55:32

Really?

SPEAKER_02 55:32

Yeah, that was a that was a downside of the new frontier. They're like, it doesn't have an external water pump, so if your water pump goes, you have to get like the full crankcase removed off your engine. It's chain-driven.

SPEAKER_04 55:43

I'm gonna go D. I've never been a fan of Nissan truck. Keep it at C. Yep. All right, that's it. Uh up next, we have Honda.

SPEAKER_02 55:52

Get the f out of here with that. Now are you even debating? Uh Ridgeline's not a truck. Now get out of here. But see, this is okay. I think I have my full opinion. I think I we're we've come full circle. There's so many people out there. Like, if I I'd be a horrible car dealer. If I was at a Ford dealer, someone comes in, they want the F-150. How much how much work do you do with this thing? What do you need? Well, sometimes on the weekend I like to go get a few bags of mulch. Like, you're not getting an F-150, sir. I'm gonna go down to that go down to that Honda dealership, get the ridge line, go spend an extra 40 grand, get the full load, fully loaded extra. I would have them go get a Honda Ridgeline. And as people can make all the jokes they want about those and like the Santa Cruz, but they've got some interesting features. And if you're just an average suburban dad that's buy the full-size truck. No, why would you get something that's more fuel efficient, smaller? The truck. That's what I'm saying. Go get the Santa Cruz or the Ridgeline.

SPEAKER_04 56:47

All right, I just have to say No, the full-size truck is more fuel efficient. If you're buying a truck stamp based off of its fuel efficiency, you probably shouldn't be in the market for a truck.

SPEAKER_02 56:55

You're the Ridge. Exactly, but I'm saying there's so many people that already have these full-size trucks that shouldn't be in the market.

SPEAKER_01 57:01

Which is why get that get the ridgeline out of here.

SPEAKER_02 57:03

No, the ridge line.

SPEAKER_04 57:04

I gotta say, I'm with John. I think it's F tier.

SPEAKER_02 57:06

I don't like the ridge line. I'm gonna get I I don't know much about the modern ridgelines, but some of the older ones weren't too much. A tier? Were you talking? B tier. B. Honda's just such a solid brand.

SPEAKER_04 57:17

Honda's a great brand. Exactly.

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SPEAKER_02 57:19

So like why buy their truck? Go buy one of their other phenomenal products they sell. Yeah, but the like I'm just saying you need a small little light DVD every once in a while. CRVs? I mean, they're that there's a cult following. Be careful. You think about the stuff.

SPEAKER_04 57:34

I'm saying they're like, why don't just go buy one of those if you're gonna buy a Honda product? Don't buy a truck if you're gonna buy a product.

SPEAKER_02 57:39

But I'm saying, Joe, you live, let's say, in this made-up world, you got a little house in the suburbs, not much land. Maybe once a month you're doing something something small where you need the cargo space of a truck bed. You may tell me you get an outside.

SPEAKER_03 57:56

They're fold the seats down.

SPEAKER_02 57:58

Fold them down the SUV because the Ridgeline interesting features. I don't know if it's the Ridgeline or the Santa Cruz. They actually have a pass-through. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:04

That and the truck. It's kind of cool. Chevy uh Avalanche back in the day.

SPEAKER_03 58:08

Yeah. That was an interesting It's the same thing as a ridgeline. No, the Avalanche was. Oh my god, you are unbelievable.

SPEAKER_04 58:19

Up next, we have the Toyota. Oh, S tier.

SPEAKER_02 58:23

Yeah, I gotta say, Toyota is an S tier. Now I know they're having some issues now, but if we're just doing full body of truck work, S tier all day. They put out so many gems.

SPEAKER_01 58:32

I'm just going A tier because they don't do anything in the diesel world. They don't need to. They don't need to. You do to be a truck, you've got to do big and small truck shit. I don't think they want to be. To be an S tier truck brand, you've got to do big and small truck. They don't want to be in that tank. That's a bad argument. I see what you're saying. I I can't put it S tier. It's A tier. It was the only thing I'm putting on the A tier.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

Yeah, but they do so many things that the other brands don't that I respect them for.

Ranking Truck Brands: S To F

SPEAKER_01 58:55

They just build a truck that lasts. I get that. Yeah, yeah. But they don't build a diesel. Well, I don't know. They don't build a truck that tows. How the f are you gonna make it an S tier when they can't tow a tundra? No, you can't you literally cannot tow anything over 10,000 GV on it on it. They don't make a truck big enough.

unknown 59:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 59:13

That's my point, is like they don't make a truck big enough to go to that.

SPEAKER_04 59:16

You know, after hearing this compelling argument and the price point, I will let me let me give you one.

SPEAKER_02 59:20

Just before before I hear what he's saying with the towing, that's one aspect. That's a massive aspect of owning a truck. This is a brand that's not afraid to put out a naturally aspirated engine. No turbos, no weird shit. You want to have it for a while you have. You could still get a manual transmission.

SPEAKER_01 59:34

Exactly why it's an A tier.

SPEAKER_04 59:35

You lost to be at manual transmission.

SPEAKER_01 59:36

We're gonna go A tier. That's why it's an A tier. S tier. It can't be because they don't make every we gotta make big, small, and normal trucks to be an S tier.

SPEAKER_04 59:46

You have to be a full spectrum truck company to be an S tier. That's a great argument for trucks, though.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

Alright, S tier next one.

SPEAKER_04 59:53

Alright, you gotta ask. I gotta A. I close to an S. Toyota's a great brand. We can all agree that. I'm not arguing, they make good trucks. Alright, we have some fun brands now. Um GMC. D.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:04

That's so surprising. There's uh you know what? No, I'll GMC, they're garbage. GMC and Chevy, I think boxing would look like shit. I'll put it on a B tier. They look like shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:16

These new Toyotas look like shit, too. Toyo, get your shit together. Get back to making good looking stuff. I gotta say, I'm with Sam. I think it's B.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:22

I know a lot of people that own GMCs for practical shit and like they work very well. They last. Yeah. Some of them last.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:29

Oh yeah, you get the Duramax. Duramax is a great truck. Yeah, people love the Denali's Dinalies. I got a buddy who has an escalating business. He's only had what are the two? Power Stroke and the Cummins. That's it. Well, what about no? Come on now. There's only two players. Good old international harvester. Come on now. They made it. Cummins owns international. My dad has an international one of his trucks.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:51

I think who owns international now? Cummins or Ford?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:52

One of them owns it. Oh well, Ford, that's how that's why they invented Power Stroke. They brought their diesels in-house because they said we don't need your sweet, sweet, sweet 7.3 anymore.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:01

Yeah, we're gonna go back to the 7.3. This is last year, 6.7. What? Of what? 6.67. Oh, okay. The 6.7 liter? Oh, you fell. I thought that was over.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:14

Never for you. You keep bringing it up. We love beating Jones dad. Alright, up next, Hyundai. Not even have it. Get at it. Do they even make a truck? Yeah, Sam said they did. Dan's truck. The Santa Cruz. It's not a truck.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:26

No, that's a conversion SUV thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:28

It's not true. Hey, I didn't have them on the list of originally. I will say this. I'm gonna put Hyundai at a D tier only because I will say Hyundai and Korean cars in general have come a long way in the past 10 years.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:43

You said cars. This is a truck conversation. Well, their truck is Might as well put Volvo on there. I got an F tier for Free. Volvo makes semis. Put it on before doing this.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:55

That was my lowest ranking, was the Hyundai. I almost had international on here.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:58

Put it on there. Alright, last two. International used to make a truck that you could drive on as a civilian on the road without a CDL called the MXD and CXD. They were badass. Put it on there. It's better than three-quarters of the shit that's up there.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:12

We'll probably cut some of these. We love you, Tom. Um Alright, up next, Chevrolet. D. I've never been around.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:23

You can't.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:24

For all the jokes I make for Chevy. I like Chevy more than they're all the same.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

What did I give Ram a C tier? I think I did. It's written up there.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:32

You gave Ram a D.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:35

No, D, yeah, D. You know, I'll give Chevy D. I'll give it a B. Now this is what I'll say. In the American car world, uh you know, you got the big three, you got Ford, you got GM, you got Chrysler. I'm sorry, but Chrysler is just that ugly stepsister, just you know, they put out some gems. So I'm talking in the past like 10, 20 years. They put out some gems sometimes, and it's cool, but a lot of their stuff's garbage. But GM and Ford, that's more of a toss-up of like, okay, they're they're they're each putting up. We're talking trucks, buddy. Well, yeah, they're trucks. I'm saying they're trucks. We're just on trucks. Yeah. Talking about Mopar and I'm still gonna put Ford higher, but Chevy's respectable. I mean, I I like I God, this is gonna be I I like the I like the way the Colorado looks. I don't know if they ever built it. There were talks of them doing a little diesel Colorado. I don't know if they ever made it or not. That was a cool idea.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:32

Oh, what do you got, John? You have a B tier?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:35

D. D. Yeah, Chevy. Dude, I I just don't like any GM product. Like general. No, they're they're they're boxy, they're junky, they're shit. Yeah, no, I'll I'll never pay money for one. I'll never own one. No one in my family will no one in my family will ever own one.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:53

The only thing like what happens if one day in the future one of your kids is like, dad, I want to get a Chevy. I think my kid's gonna be like, Well, I'm I got a job, I'm gonna go buy this Chevy.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:05

No, we're not gonna buy that Chevy. At some point, they'll have a job and they can independently. And they can show up my house, I'll talk shit on their Chevy. I have Chevy.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:11

And their boyfriends that have the Chevies, I'll talk shit on them too.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:14

God, I gotta put I gotta put Chevy at B just because I did GMC at B. I I think if you got they got a lot of great offshoots. Yeah, I think it's one of those things where if you own a G like people that follow GM love GM.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:27

I got a lot of respect for GM.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:28

Like, GM's not the worst out of all this whole list, right? And so it's just like they make some fine products. We're talking trucks. Yeah, I'm saying I'd rather own a GMC truck, but I will say Chevy, like their products aren't bad. Like a lot of people drive the shit out of those trucks. I mean, they they they do last.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:46

Not anymore. Some of them last a good bit. I mean see, you guys are just young, I feel like. I I uh GM and Chevy trucks had their moment and then got demolished. Like demolished. When was that? When did they get demolished? The 2000s, they just got obliterated off the face of the planet in regards to quality and then like longevity. Their trucks are just garbage, they're constantly worn. They made all these changes. They don't, their diesel stinks compared to the Cummins and the PowerShell. I'm just saying, this is for truck people don't buy Chevy's. Truck people buy all brands of trucks, let's be on the other. Truck people for every brand of Chevy. They get every brand. I don't know. I think I just have a lot of. The best thing Chevy ever did was bring in that glorious Detroit hair-swinging, glory, beautiful man Bob Seeger to sing and stole his song, threw it on their trucks, and when Lyca Rock was their motto, that was the last time Chevy was any good. And it's been 20 years since they were like I mean uh they haven't recovered from the bailouts. GM's just I don't think anyone's recovered from the bailouts. No, they may haven't made a good truck since before pre bailout. No, that's not true. I'd rather.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:01

I mean, I just the look of them. Yeah, the same truck. You know, like I can see the Denali.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:06

No, they're just not that. Okay, so I gotta I own an Expedition Max, right? Yeah. I've had no problems with it at all. My buddy went and bought the Denali because he thought it looked cooler, right? Every other month it's in the shop. Same thing he's doing on a daily basis. I mean, they're just it's a thing. I like the look of Cadillac better, but I will never buy one because it's a GM. Like I think that truck is so sexy. It would be my dream SUV is the Escalade. Yeah. I think it's awesome. But I'll buy a navigator over it all day long just because I know that truck's gonna be better.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:35

They don't know what they're doing. No, they know trash. Tony Soprano, he had a Chevy, he had that sweet uh Taha. When was that show prevalent? Early to mid-2000s. Oh! I thought we're talking collectively here. Proven the last 20 years. He's like the K-body. Hell of a K-truck, I'll tell you. The square body of the K-truck.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:58

That leads us to our last but not least, Ford. Obviously, S. We all drive Fords, we're all going to Bonnie Sayo.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:06

Own six. Still owned three. Four, actually, right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:12

I I'm just What are you at, Sam? You're not gonna drive that 2009 Ford Ranger and not put it at an S tier.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:20

You also have your 250. I'm so yeah, but that's what I mean. I guess if we're doing collectively, collectively, I will I will go.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:27

We've been talking about this for 20 minutes. What do you what do you mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:30

Are we doing this collectively? Yes! It's it's hard for I really, really just want to get say S tier and be done with it, but part of me wants to say A tier only. Just to piss us off? No, it's just that I just don't like the direction they're going with the eco boost stuff. Agreed. Okay, but that is that is future. We need to discuss the body of work.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:49

Body of work, 100% S tier, then. Now, do you think okay, in the S tier, you put two in there. Toyota and Ford.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:57

Which one's not there? Don't make me do this. I know why. I know what he's gonna say. Why?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:04

You drive a Ford, but 100% Toyota, the way you talk about him.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:06

Yeah, I mean, do I, on a personal level, I'm gonna choose Ford over Toyota, but that's that's not me saying that I think this is the best, most reliable. I'm being fully objective. That's just me kind of choosing with my hair.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:20

You're you're bitter pattering too much of this automotive. You gotta come up.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:24

Man has no loyalty. Personal choice. Man has no loyalty. No, no, no. Not to not be a good Well, but you have to think though, it's kind of hard to have full devout loyalty when the brands could change so quickly.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:35

You're right, but I think you're trying not to like pace people off right now. No, it's not. You know so much more than us about all this stuff, too.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:42

I'm gonna say it's it's more of a debate within my own head. Because I part of me wants to say Toyota over it just based on. You pick Toyota, the way you talk about Toyota, and I I think that's right now, or right now, present day, I probably choose Toyota over Ford. Collectively, though, and in my heart, I choose Ford over.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:00

But this is a collective, like this is the life, this is the embodiment of your life's opinion.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:04

Oh, then thank the Lord for the big block for it all that. That's my guy. Collective, collective.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:10

And I'll go back to the only reason I did not put Toyota on the S tier was because they do not make a like a giant truck. Yeah. You know, there's nothing there for that that like the Dolly or the Diesel. If they did, it would be up there. But those are the only two, in my opinion, right now, that you know, I even will give a nod to doing trucks right.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:33

That's why Ford's been the number one selling truck in America for as long as they have. They're the only people that have they've they're the only brand that's consistently looked at it and said, the core of America drives a pickup truck. We're gonna continue to improve upon this sucker. Now, do I love the eco boost? No. Do I love the movement to the six cylinder? No. Do I love the five and a half foot bed? No. Right? I had a I tell you the perfect bed size is at 250 outside. The six and three-quarter bed is the perfect bed size. Tailgate down, full sheet of plywood with the tailgate down, it's inside the truck bed. It's not hanging out, right? You can get, you can do eight-foot truck stuff, but you can also park it better. It's easier to park. You don't have all the problems that go along with the uh, you know, gigantic uh light ass end on an eight-foot bed truck when you're driving in the snow and shit. Back in the days, you boys might be too young for you. You were throwing sandbags in there because that thing's so far away from you, she's just whipping out there. Can't keep her. No, my dad always was like, You gotta throw some sandbags in the back of that truck there, you're gonna be sliding all over the road. Yeah, so like sandbags, do you help? An eight-foot bed, you rarely need it. I know a lot of people like it. It's a boat, though. Like, that's a big you want to drive that outside in the city, you ain't parking anywhere. Yeah, but you're also getting tagged in parking lots because they're making them smaller now. It's not that big of a I like the six and three quarter, but I'm with you on all the negative sides. Yeah, they're moving to smaller engines, more economical, right? The the the trucks don't have the pick-me-ups these two.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:59

I think I just wish they would make a it's obviously very biased to myself, but just like a nice, regular, old school, mid-size pickup truck. And I hate to say it, but the modern day ranger just that's just not it. It's too big for you. And then the it's it's too big. It's I you want a city truck. I want an actual mid-size, I want a normal mid-size.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:18

So, what do you think about the Tacoma then?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:21

I like the same size, a Ranger Tacoma or same size.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:23

Yeah, I know the Tacoma. I already know what you're gonna say.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:25

You like the Tacoma, they're just too expensive to get into it.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:27

Exactly. The Tacoma's getting bigger, I agree. Toyota is releasing another pickup truck, though, that's supposed to be smaller than the Tacoma. I'm pumped for that. But I will say that the problem is just the price point getting into it. It's kind of like Jeep, where it's like, and like all the stuff I've said that's like a positive about it, like the fact that it is just a naturally aspirated engine, there's not a lot of froofiness. I don't even know if they have car play. Yeah, they were holding, they were like the last brand to hold out for car play, but it's like this very bare bones pickup truck, and they want so much for it.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:55

And I just I I could never bring myself to Yeah, they're they're like, We'll drive this, you can drive this thing through a through a war zone and it'll be good. And you're like, but you're gonna have to give us$70,000 and it has cloth seats, and uh and no center console. You're like, what the f I remember the my dad has drove a Toyota for most of my adult life, right? And he's like, I think I told you guys this story, like when I went to buy my first Ford, he was arguing with the kid who was trying to convince the guy that Toyota makes a better truck. Um but the the reason we went with a Ford was because the Tacoma was so expensive, right? And I bought my first full-size Ford truck for$27,000. It was a full-size F S STX, an eight-cylinder, right? It had a 6.2 liter engine, and everything else was bare bones. Just I'm talking like you could I I think I mentioned you can open the door, hose the interior out. It was all like fabric and and plastic, basically. That's nuts. Nuts. And then the same and then the mid-size started at 40,000 before the Tacoma back then. This was 2004 or 5. And it's just gotten worse since. But the Tacoma does hold its value. The problem is though, it's just still a little truck. Yeah. So you can't do much truck stuff outside of just drive around and grab some materials here and there. But if that's what you need, great. If you're trying to go like sleep in the woods and act like you're an outdoorsy person, great. But like the whole need a full-size truck. I think the tundra is fine. They're hideous.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:27

Hideous. They're not hideous.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:29

Oh, the tundra nowadays looks awful. See, so sick. I think the tundras look fine. I think the biggest problem with the tundra is they're so expensive. And they're thin and they're ashdogs. They're hideous.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:38

Tundras are probably the I think the cyber truck looks better than the tundra.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:43

Let me see if I actually don't mind.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:44

It literally has these like big globby-looking alien front end with these huge bubbles over the like the the the the lights. Dislike it a lot. I actually kind of like the look of it. Let me see. You would. You would like it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:56

I mean, it just kind of looks like every other truck. I I like the headlights. The giant I kind of like the boxiness. So much with the electric blue there. Just so much plastic. Yeah, see, that's what I love. That actually looks good.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:09

Some of them look stupid with some of the rims on them. I will say it's like the whole visual package. Some of them, like with this body.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:17

It looks like it wants it looks like your shitty, like, like the shitty backup to like a GMC, and I hate that look.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:23

I think the only problem with this is with all like those. I think that looks hideous. I think that looks beautiful. Yeah. But I think the problem I have with.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:31

The full front end is plastic. It is everything's plastic. My grill is 70% plastic.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:40

It's plastic because if it wasn't plastic, someone hits you, you're fing painted over the lake for dead. Boomer right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:46

I'm just saying. You get stuck out in the snow. You gotta be able to do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:50

The way this body is, you're telling me you want it to not be plastic? The way this is, I don't want all the bump outs of my truck.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:57

Like I that's the big thing I hate about my lightning is the front end of it's plastic. I look at 240 truck every day. This looks terrible. The front end of my truck. My my my uh the old lightning. My lightning. Have you got the chrome cross members there?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:10

Like, I to be honest with you, I'm not seeing that much of a the whole front end of the tundra is plastic. It looks definitely. It's a giant chunk of plastic.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:19

It's like you went and got a plastic fence and stuck it on the front of a truck.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:23

I will say the tundra looks a little more aggressive.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:25

There's no clean buffer line on the front of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:28

It looks more friendly. It's like an approachable truck.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:31

That's like a good like that truck looks clean. The tundra looks like a alien took a dump and then like a human tried to remake it. They're not that different. That's what I mean. They're all kind of You have no taste.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:43

John, come on.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:44

I'm like, dude, from a man over here who I respect your time and efforts into like your style and all the shit you waste time on. To say something like that, there's not that much difference. There's not and what there's a lot of difference. I would like to get a j a little just a front shot of a Toyota versus a Ford. And then I want a percentage of grill plastic compared to the two of them, and it's easily 30 to 40% more on the tundra. I don't know. It's just such a big plastic grill. I hate it.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:14

It looks mean.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:15

It looks mean.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:16

Nothing about that looks mean. Oh. You know what's cool about their back windows though? They go down? The whole window comes. Can you get that on a Ford? You have to beg nowadays to get a sliding window in the back in the back seat. I'm just saying, my dad just went through this. He had to like do a lot of things to get them to even consider putting a sliding window in the back.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:36

They just have the little cube in the center now? Yeah. You can't stick like my Ranger. I can go get 12-foot pieces of molding and like stack it. This man. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:47

I think they should comment about what they think is their own.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:50

How stupid do you think Sam's opinions are? Or John. Or John's. I mean, I know you're going to say my everyone just thinks I'm stupid.

Toyota vs Ford: S‑Tier Showdown

SPEAKER_04 1:16:56

So that leads us into a different segment. Moving on to I thought this would be a fun game segment for us to play. Finding the best movie franchise, but this time we're going to do it as a bracket. We have a 16-team bracket of some of the best rated movie franchises in history. And we're going to go through rapid fire. You guys are going to pick one until we have a winner and then we can talk about it. How does that sound? Are you basing this on like taste?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:19

Quality of movie? Box office numbers. Alright, there's one clearing winner. I don't even need to do the brackets. There's two that are going to the finals.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:31

Alright, let's start in the round of 16 on the right side. We'll pop it up on screen for the people at home. Harry Potter and the Matrix. Matrix.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:38

The Matrix.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:39

Okay. James Bond and the Dark Knight trilogy. Dark Knight. Dark Knight, I guess. Batman DC or Mission Impossible?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:46

Batman.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:48

Star Wars and Rocky.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:49

Hold on. What the fuck is Batman DC? What do you mean? You're talking about like Arnold Schwarzenegger and George Clooney, the Mel Kilmer, all those? Because you eliminated Dark Knight. Batman Superman. You going with all the other Batmans outside of Dark Knight? Yeah, it's like uh every Batman outside of Dark Knight? Yeah, I guess I guess that's kind of like its own. Because you have the Dark Knight trilogy up there. I'm just saying, is it every Batman outside of Dark Knight? I'm still taking Batman. I just want to be clear. Yeah, I think it's a good one. I don't know if it was a good one.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:14

I'm assuming so, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:16

Yeah, yeah. This is a hard one.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:18

Uh Star Wars and Rocky slash Creed. That is a heavy.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:21

I'm thinking Star Wars. Rocky Creed's good, but I think as a movie franchise, it's just like the same thing over and over again again.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:28

No, I'll go Star Wars. It's a lot bigger, too. I'll go Star Wars.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:31

Okay, then that leads us to Marvel and Toy Story. Marvel. Marvel. Damn. Jurassic Park and Star Trek. Jurassic Park. Fast and Furious and Indiana Jones.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:41

Indiana Jones. Fast and the Furious.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:43

Fast and Furious moves on. I'll break that tie. Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings and Transformers.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:49

Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:49

Harry Potter. No, sorry. You guys did Matrix?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:52

Yeah. I can't move it's an image. Oh, okay. So we got The Matrix and Dark Knight.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:57

Wait, I missed that. You guys f ⁇ ing picked the Matrix over Harry Potter?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:01

Harry Potter is a show.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:03

You know what? I still I still hold with my opinion, but thinking about it, the the following two Matrix films aren't the best. Yeah. But the Matrix is just so good.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:11

The whole franchise of Harry Potter as a whole. Literally just the. I'm disappointed in you, Sam. I knew he hates Harry Potter, but I'm disappointed just doesn't do it for me like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:20

Like I like real fantasy, not this.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:25

People in England, they're they're wizards.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:28

People in England, they're wizards. In all honesty, I think the depth of character and the storytelling of the Matrix is better than personally.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:36

Matrix and the Dark Knight trilogy. Dark Knight. And then we have Star Wars and Batman DC.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:43

Star Wars, probably. Yeah, Star Wars.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:48

Okay. Over here we have Marvel and Jurassic Park. Marvel.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:52

Marvel, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:53

Fast and Furious in Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:56

Fast and the Furious.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:57

I'm gonna tie break Fast and Furious. I'm done. We're kidding, we're kidding with you.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:04

We said we had a conversation beforehand. Just commit to the Fast and the Furious. What?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:12

You assholes. I've never imagined how much better Lord of the Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:17

Lord of the Rings would be a part of the hard rings.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:20

Lord of the Rings, Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:21

We'll agree there. So then we have two here that matter. I mean telling you guys. The Dark Knight trilogy or Star Wars? Dark Knight.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:33

As a big franchise, you're you're turning it down there. There's some stinkers, but there's a lot of great ones.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:39

That's what I'm saying. That's why I think the Dark Knight barely, there's only one miss, and it's barely a miss. I mean, it's not even close to a miss. It's like a B video. I'm gonna say when there's like some D's in that Star Wars universe.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:52

There are some D's, but I'm still gonna say Star Wars. You gotta tie break it, we know where you're going. Don't even f get the f's.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:58

I love you, Sam, but I gotta go with the Dark Knight. You have to. I love Star Wars, but the Dark Knight changed my life.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:05

Yeah. Yeah, the Dark Knight and Dark Knight rises are just so good they carry the rest. When I don't think the whole I don't think the whole Star Wars universe can be carried on the on the first three. I I they just they're they were great at the time. They're just they don't do it for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:19

Um and then on this side we have what you guys have uh Lord of the Rings and Marvel. Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:26

Only just because there's just so well again, there's just so many movies. Is it Disney? They're they're franchise makers, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:34

I mean Yeah. They're not as good as Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:38

I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:40

I feel like here's where I'll go. Name six movies. Actually, there's one movie in the Lord of the Rings franchise has more accreditations for what are they, Emmy? What do they win? Oscars. Uh one movie, the Return of the King, has more Oscars than the entire Marvel franchise put together.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:59

Did we know that for certain show?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:02

Hold on. Look it up. Return of the King. We're gonna ask the channel. I think it's 13. I think it has 13 Oscars.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:08

You can win Oscars for anything. I mean, I feel like Marvel's definitely probably won some for costume designs, set special effects. They don't even come close. Here, hold on, we're asking the AI hive mind.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:22

Return of the King. Thank you. Yep, 11 Oscars.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:26

Let's see how many when every category was nominated for the game. Every single one.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:30

How many Marvel does Marvel have?

SPEAKER_04 1:22:32

Middle Earth is undefeated.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:33

But how many does Marvel have?

SPEAKER_01 1:22:35

Uh five. Fewer.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:36

Four. Five.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:38

Wow. Not as many as I Marvel is not accredited. Endgame didn't get any? Marvel's not accredited as being like good movies. They were anywhere. But like they're not accredited in that regard. Alright, I'll I'll break the two. My next argument was gonna be Lord of the Rings. You guys are probably only thinking of like Fellowship Towers in Return of the King, but there's also the three Hobbit movies. I've been only thinking of the Hobbit movies.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:00

And that Amazon Prime show. That one.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:04

We're gonna add that into the mix. Then we gotta add Marvel. Yeah, never mind. We're gonna go Lord of the Rings wins that tiebreaker. Wow, yeah. Um, you start thinking about the Marvel shows.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:15

There's a lot of bad movies in the Marvel universe right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:18

If we were just going off of just the movies with Thanos in it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:21

I mean I think you guys just like Marvel more.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:25

Yeah, we do. Marvel's good.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:26

Like, don't get me wrong.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:26

So then I mean, here's the here's the two. So we're at the two that I pick. Lord of the Rings and the Dark Knight trilogy. Lord of the Rings. You can't beat it. Sam, I'll let you tie break because I'm tired of this shit. Um The Dark Knight. I got the Dark Knight. Dark Knight has the nostalgia for Joe.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:41

Dark Knight was my two, so.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:44

I guess just on a personal level, I'll I'll choose the Dark Knight just because the Yeah, I mean the I knew I was gonna get uh lose to you two ganging up on me. Um neither one of you are Lord of the Rings fans. But I like Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:59

I'm a big big Hobbit fan.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:01

Yeah, so like in regards to the the franchises as they stand, um like Batman obviously is up there, but but the Lord of the Rings franchise, like you you just can't compete with the the it's the magnitude of what it is. Yeah. And all in all, like, it's the goat. It's a good segment.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:21

It'll be a good clip. It'll be a good one. Um and so I mean it leads us to our last segment after that. Uh our favorite game isn't normal.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:29

My favorite for sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:31

John's favorite isn't normal game. Some of these are inspired by Sam Polo himself today.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:35

Oh, these should be good then. I don't know about that. I got one for you. Is it normal for men to wear hair products every day?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:44

Yes. Yeah. That's normal. That's a whole industry on that, yeah. Just wondering. I think we all use different products every day. All right, then after that first product.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:54

Up next, uh, is it normal to leave somewhere without saying goodbye? No. An old Irish exit.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:04

I don't think so. I can't do it. I feel too guilty if I try. There's even times where I'm like, I barely know these people. There's no reason for me to say goodbye. They're not even gonna like remember me leaving, but I still have to do it.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:17

Yeah, it's not normal. Farewell. Farewell. You thank you, thank you. Good seeing you fairly well. Um Is it normal to hate group chats? Yes. Like group texts. Yeah, it is. That's a good one. It is is it normal to eat grocery store food before paying? No. What? Oh no, you've never like a crack of water before you check out. Absolutely not. Despicable behavior.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:41

No, no, it's it's normal. It's normal. I remember I'd say it's not normal. I remember whenever I was a kid, my grandma had low blood sugar, so she'd be like, I'm gonna open up some of these candies, pop a couple while we were pushing uh the cart around. I remember being real little, I was like, You're gonna get arrested. Like, I'm gonna have to go visit you in jail for this shit. Are you out of your mind? But no one actually cares. So, yeah, enjoy yourself in the grocery store.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:03

You know, this is wrong. Well, what do you mean it's wrong? Just because she was a lovely old lady doesn't make it okay to eat the food in the store before you buy.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:10

She can do anything she wants, she'd commit cold blood murder, it'd be okay. But it doesn't make it normal.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:15

You can't you do not eat before you buy. Why? What's the problem with that? You don't eat before you buy.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:19

Why?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:20

It's it's disrespectful. Also how do you how do you know as the store owner how much they've consumed?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:28

You don't. You have to have a bag of chips or something. It's like okay, he's got one bag of chips.

Movie Franchise Bracket: From Matrix To Dark Knight

SPEAKER_01 1:26:34

Well, a bag of chips and a piece of candy turns into a full fing sub. Next thing you know, you're eating your whole lunch in the store and just walking out.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:40

You could it's it's part of the the uh on a human level, you have to trust. You have to say, well, I trust and you know what? And if they get away with it, shame on you as a store owner, you aren't keeping a close enough eye, helps keep everyone on their chair. Wow. Yeah, eat eat food whenever you like, go for it.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:55

Despicable behavior. So this one's more modern, but is it normal to skip movie trailers nowadays?

SPEAKER_02 1:26:59

Yes. Because they they're getting out of hand with how much they'll give away. If it's a movie I really, really want to see, I'll maybe watch like the first 20, 30 seconds of the trailer and I'll be done because they're just so focused on like global box office numbers, especially if it's like a movie where there's like some crazy shit or some action, they will just show like the last sequences of the movie in like trailer number eight or whatever, and I just I'd rather just go in blind. My favorite movies, I go in blind. It's such a better experience.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:25

What if you have no idea what the movie's gonna be about?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:27

It's even better. I've seen a few movies like that. What the no clue what Marty Supreme was. I saw not one ad for I still know what Marty Supreme was How didn't you get marketed for his? I don't know, I didn't see one thing at all. And it was so it was so good going in like that.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:43

You didn't drive me to become an alcoholic.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:45

Thelma was another one like that. It's Thelma. Oh, you have to talk about the unicorn horse? No, it's this old lady, and they got the guy that played Shaft, he's in it, and she basically gets scammed out of some money by these telemarketers, so she's like I I'm gonna go find these guys that took my money. And it's this whole adventure of wh her going to get these guys that scammed her. So here's my question.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:07

Whatever you're talking about. Without me seeing that trailer, I would have no idea if I'm interested in it. Exactly. You go in blind.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:14

Who just does who just sends money and goes blind and several times?

SPEAKER_02 1:28:18

You, my friends have issues. Next time you have a free moment, you go down to the manager. I do not have any of those. Well, make a free moment, get down to the trailer.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:26

Give it to me over and over and over again. Sometimes the trailers are so fing, you're sitting there before the movie, just like sweating in anti-like.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:35

I would say today though, nowadays, some trailers, they're putting everything. I know the whole movie from scene to the movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:40

I think Nolan's trailer strategy is phenomenal. Nolan's great, yeah. Right? I also will say that like there's some movies I don't know that I'm interested in until I see a trailer. Like, did you see the trailer yesterday for Project Hail Mary? I did see that. I did with Ryan Gosling. Yeah. Were either one of you into it? I read the book. Oh, yeah, I was into that. Yeah. You're gonna watch the movie? Yeah, probably will. Would you have watched it before seen the trailer?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:03

Uh probably not. Well, maybe. There's a chance. But but that was a good trailer, though. They didn't give too much away in that. And it was very ambiguous.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:11

I can't say trailer, don't watch a trailer because some of them are bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:14

Like, you know, an awful one? The Fantastic Four. That whole movie was given away in the trailers. I went to see that. I was like, yeah, but I've seen literally everything, every throwaway joke, every shocking like surprise. I saw it.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:26

I'm still not gonna, I'm I mean, I I still love the concept of movie art movie trailers. I'm giving them I'm saying it's it's skipping it, you're doing yourself a disservice. All right. I still look forward to them because it's showing me what I could like down there. You could just look up the IMDB and read the i that's you don't it's the same thing as a why don't you read the synopsis? But it's like the same thing as a restaurant. Like I go to be served. Like, serve me what you think I'm gonna like.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:49

But Anthony Bourdain himself said some of the best restaurants, it's just a surprise. You walk in there. Which I'm fine with. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:55

Give me word of mouth or something. That's the other part, though. Is if you don't have word of mouth, like you recommending movies to me makes me not want to watch them. Oh wow. And then I don't know another adult that goes to movies as often as you do. But if you were like, check this restaurant out, I'm literally using that's it. That's the only filter I need. I'm going.

unknown 1:30:11

What?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:11

Walking in, I'm saying give me what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:13

I would trust my taste in movies more than restaurants. Yeah, I feel like you have it backwards right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:18

Well, well, until you hear your top five movies of all time. And then it was kind of you're a big restaurant. Boy train, ignorbit.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:26

Is it normal to judge people by their car? 100%.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:30

I'd say it's not normal.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:31

No. I'm gonna I'm gonna climb it up. I'm gonna I'm going to fix that for you. Go ahead. Next time you have some asshole that is just running, driving on your ass or all over the road, every single time, I guarantee you you'll see it. Every single time there's something fed up with their car. It's got a dent, a ding, a massive scratch, a fed up light, something. Every time. 100%. No, every driver on the road has a fed up car.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:59

There's nothing nothing worse than a clean brand new BMW behind it. I uh you want to see some bad driving, some asshole is driving. Oh, here's a clean BMW M car coming up. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah. He's nearly hitting everyone on the highway. Oh, now he's tailgating.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:14

Kids in like ricers is definitely a thing of the past. Yeah, I used to judge, but like, oh, I'm I'm judging you. If your car fed up and you're driving like an asshole, I hate you.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:22

I honestly, I don't know. I we're coming at from different angles. I would say there's nothing more concerning than seeing like a clean? Oh, yeah, big clean vehicle, someone that, you know, I feel like sometimes people get like driver's superiority complexes when they got their big new clean vehicle where they're like, I could do anything I want because this thing just rolled off the dealership. I don't know. Do do I think that squarely.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:46

My judgment's coming from shitty drivers. His judgment's coming from actual areas of judgment. I'm just saying. He's like you drive a black truck, it's jacked up, and you happen to be John Maleky. F you. No, I'm not saying you.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:58

I'm saying, like I said, I'm mainly saying like four clean new foreign vehicles, you're gonna see some shit go down. Your Mercedes, your BMW. It's normal to judge. Yeah. My buddy, he just got my buddy just got an Audi. He took me for a ride and he was driving like an asshole. It was fast. It was so fast. But I was like, I couldn't. I could see why people on the road would hate you. Yeah. I'm that's why it's normal.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:20

Is it normal to hate Super Bowl halftime shows? I think it's super normal.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:27

I think it's super normal. I feel like it's honestly abnormal like every single one.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:32

Like you remember the Eminem one I came in, I liked it, and you guys were like, that sucked. When did when did it be?

SPEAKER_04 1:32:37

It wasn't Eminem, it was Kendrick. We liked Kendrick, you hated it.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:40

Yeah, I did. But the new one? No, yeah, it was Dr. Dre, Eminem, like they did the whole year math. I missed it. I don't know. Who was playing? Literally Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, okay, Eminem. Oh, wow. Right? They were I don't know how I missed this. Yeah, what the f are you doing, dude?

SPEAKER_02 1:33:00

When did Usher perform? Is that last year?

SPEAKER_01 1:33:02

Usher performed in like 2007.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:04

No, it wasn't No, it was while we worked here. It was while I worked here, wasn't it? When did Usher perform?

SPEAKER_04 1:33:10

Yeah, check it. I my kid's about to die. Last one. Is it normal to fake a phone call to get out of a conversation with somebody? I don't think I'm good enough to do that. No, I don't think that's normal. Oh, hold on, I'm getting a call. Give me one second, and then you just walk away or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:25

I mean, but there was a point in my life where that was a normal thing for me, and now I just tell you no.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:30

I think it's normal. I think it's honestly a probably a good tactic if you I don't know, aren't trying to really talk to somebody and you just don't want to waste their time. You don't have the balls to say something.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:40

You have to have someone call you then? I don't know. Oh shit. I don't know. I you know what I think the best way to get out of something is maybe this kind of goes with the phone call thing. If you act pissed off, I feel like people naturally will give you your space. Like you get your phone. Oh sm hold on.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:56

And it's like uh let's just let him just start shitting your pants or something, too. You know, or that, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:01

Oh, I gotta poop like a cat defecate this guy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:04

That's it. That's all I have for today. Those are some good ones. Uh we we a lot of opinionated stuff here today. Um, and and and I think it was for a good purpose. Uh if you guys feel or don't feel a certain way on any of those, please let us know. And also don't forget, you can get the entire podcast early inside the builder bunker, as well as some other awesome, cool stuff. Uh, best way to support me and the boys, share it with uh your loved ones or people you don't love. We don't care. We love you all. We love you for spending time with us, and we thank you, and we'll see you on the next episode.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:34

Peace.