Ranking Streaming Apps: Are Netflix and HBO Ripping You Off?

We canceled cable to save money, but now we’re paying more for streaming than we ever did for TV. In this episode, we rank the biggest streaming services, expose the "password sharing" bait-and-switch, and figure out which subscriptions are actually worth keeping.

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Transcript

The “Red One” And Choice Overload

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Tuesday is the worst day I've been doing it. Today's Tuesday. So with that being said. So last week I'm sitting there in the morning having my coffee, trying to ease into my day, and my oldest daughter asks me to turn on the TV. Being the lazy and present father that I am, I was like, absolutely. Ask her what she wants to watch. She's just literally saying, put on the red one, right? And so she's four. She's learned how to read. I figured, you know, she could spell it out. No. So I click on Netflix, right? Red. Letters are red. I'm scrolling through. Which one do you want? No, Daddy, not that one. The red one. I'm like, all right. So I back out of that app. I jump onto YouTube, right? Another app, red letters. Click on that. Well, YouTube's an abyss. So now I'm scrolling on her account, trying to figure that out. She's like, no, daddy, the red one. And I'm sitting there and I'm literally like, what the f am I doing right now? We've got all these apps. My life's controlled by a four-year-old because she doesn't know how to read yet. And I'm looking, and there's 12 different apps. Half of them are red, half of them are blue, half of them change color if you choose to do it. And I'm like, what the f is going on? What happened to the good old days? Just turn that shit on to channel four and let it ride. No choices, no objections. You just got what you got. These damn streaming services, the abundance of them is getting completely out of control. And if I know anyone in my life is upset about it, it's this old ass man here who refuses to drive a car with electronics in it. How are you dealing, Sam, with the fact that we are now subjected and forced into having 1,000 different applications to simply watch basic television or basic shows?

Streaming Bloat And Price Shock

SPEAKER_05 1:48

I have to be honest. Initially I was fully on board with streaming, whenever the prices were reasonable. I was all about like, let's let's get rid of cable because the cable companies I feel like got a little too big and then they started charging too much. And there was a time where you could have like just Hulu, Netflix. Honestly, you use Hulu and Netflix for a while. You're talking like back like five years ago, under 20 bucks a month, and it's like, oh, I've got everything I need right here. Yeah. You know, I it's just the prices. The prices and the the divvying up of all the different like shows within these streaming services and the growth within them. That's what just gotten out of control. Where I have like I think I have like seven now. It's basically a cable bill again.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

It's insane. And and I mean, there's some good ones, there's some awful ones. Uh I there's some that I've never even heard of that other people use it. It's insane. I think we rank them today, give our thoughts on that. I know for me, it's this it's a situation where I'm I'm kind of becoming a boomer. Yeah, I just get more and more grumpy every time I'm doing it. And and we make content for a living. So I'm like, I'm like counter the culture in which we we are pro. It's it's getting insane out there. So um I I think I think I think we gotta rank them. Oh yeah. Pick our favorites and go through them. Um the prices, you're right. They're completely out of control. The shows are getting shittier and shittier, I feel like.

Combat Sports And Platforms Collide

SPEAKER_05 3:10

Yeah, they're they're literally taking over the cinema industry, too. They're and we were talking about like Netflix taking over Paramount or uh or Warner Brothers, I mean. They're growing at like an exponential rate. It's getting scary. Oh yeah, yeah. Rhonda Rousey is supposed to fight someone on Netflix. Uh fighting uh Gina. Yeah. The other like the uh like the OG actress. Ronda Rousey. On what? On Netflix. And it's it's through Jake Paul's uh She's boxing?

SPEAKER_03 3:37

No, UFA. Oh. Didn't see that? Oh no, uh his league. No way. I did not see that.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

Yeah, it's like the actress. She was in What's her name? She's a The Mandalorian. Yeah, she's a Mandalorian. It's I think it's Gina. Is it Gina Carano?

SPEAKER_05 3:49

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was like one of the first like big like female UFC fighters.

Marry, F, Kill: The Big Three

SPEAKER_01 3:53

So we got all that for you today, plus some other goodness. I think Joe's cooking up here. So, straight out of the gate, my questions, both of you. Gun to your head. And it's an actual real gun. None of this bullshit. All right. That we've been testing on unscrewed. You gotta pick one. Should we should we play Mary Kill with Let's do it, let's go. Come on, come on.

SPEAKER_03 4:15

Mary Kill with streaming services. Let's do it. Let's go.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

Well, you gotta lead us off, man. Come on. What are the services? I think we do the big three, and then the rest will rank them after.

SPEAKER_03 4:25

That's fine. I was gonna say I I have I pulled these up before maybe we dive into it just to talk about the pricing in the different tiers because it is very vast now. You now have you can pay for the regular subscription, you can pay for it with no ads, or a lot of these places offer TV you can watch live TV. So I think it's insane the variety you get, but let's just go through it. Netflix with ads,$6.99. Standard with no ads,$15.49 to$17.99, and then premium$4K,$22.99 to$24.49. Why are you paying more for$4K?

SPEAKER_05 5:02

Why are there ads now? That was the whole purpose of these services, is so that you can just watch shows with no ads.

Tiers, Ads, And 4K Confusion

SPEAKER_03 5:08

Now you have to pay a premium? Yeah, I don't know. Hulu with ads,$7.99 to$11.99. No ads,$17.99 to$19.99. Disney. You know what? Hulu, Disney, and ESPN Plus, they like do this. I pay for it. You can get all three. I think it's for like$20 a month. What the f is Hulu? Hulu?

SPEAKER_01 5:30

I've heard of Hulu, but what is that? I didn't realize Hulu was still a thing. I thought Hulu died. No, Hulu's like massive. What is on Hulu?

SPEAKER_03 5:36

Are you being serious for this? Dead serious. My wife watches shows on Hulu. Like it's a lot of um. They have the the I think their live TV's pretty big. They get um The Bachelorette, these uh The Mormon Wives is on Hulu. A lot of these reality TV shows keeping up with the Kardashians. They host.

SPEAKER_05 5:53

No wonder you're subscribed. Well, you get a lot of movies on there. A lot of documentaries. Yeah, a lot of things. We've been watching uh JFK documentaries. I actually just watched one. It was on Kim and Kanye's divorce. It was a wild one. It was on Hulu.

SPEAKER_03 6:06

That's what you're doing with the couple. It's Kim's side, one that's on the city. Hulu's deep in the Kardashians' pockets, man. Yeah. Well, they're probably owned by them.

SPEAKER_05 6:15

Yeah, well, they moved over from uh wherever they started from. Yeah, that's why it's just uh it's not keeping up with Kardashians, it's just the Kardashians. They pretty much poached the whole show, renamed it, and they're like, We're on this network.

SPEAKER_03 6:28

Well then you have you know Disney ESPN, you have Max, which is HBO Max, they've changed back to the world.

Hulu’s Value And Reality TV

Max Rebrands And Consultant Rants

SPEAKER_01 6:34

That's hold on, hold on. You want to talk about something asinine, okay? I've been I'm I'm considerably older than you guys, right? So HBO has always been like the pinnacle, and and they've got some of the greatest shows ever, right? Yeah. Like just movies, like past movies you can't find anywhere else. Cinemax was always we called it Cinemax growing up because that's where you that's where you get to see some boobies. Um love those art. Love boobies. Um and look go on Google right now or on Gemini or something, and I want you to look up how much they paid McKinsey Consulting for the naming consult three to change from I'm sure it's stupid. HBO to HBO Max to Go to Max to HBO Max again. It is it is like a half a billion dollars, I'm pretty sure. It is a ridiculous amount of money. I never understood why. It's in this no one understood. Like, what the HBO, you're ruining like you're ruining like the GOAT service. Like HBO always stood on like a tier for me above everything else. Yeah. And I was more than willing to pay for it because it just had such good shit. Even this is like previous to streaming only. Now I'm looking at it and I'm like, what are you clowns doing? About 37 million in consultant fees to Warner Bros. Just for the this is for the last time. Look at lifetime. This is why Warner Bros. going under. And I'm pretty sure it's considerably higher. That's insane. I saw some short on this like months ago, and it was just like something communicating. Right? It's like 200 some million to just switch their name back and forth over the last 20 years. I got the most egregious amount of money. What do you think? Like these consulting companies just sitting there and they're like, we're missing on the we're missing on the Gen Z demographic right now. You know what's going on. You know what's gonna get these kids the word max the word max. Jake telling you they want to max everything. They're maxing all of social media. I I remember when they did this shit too. Now get out that checkbook and give me$30 million for that advice.

SPEAKER_05 8:43

Okay. It's insane. I remember when they did it too, because they still had the old app. I had the HBO Go app, and they have both on my phone. Yeah, they left it on the app store, and then you'd like try to uh try to load it up. It's like this app is dead.

SPEAKER_03 8:56

Yeah. The app's like f ⁇ you. It's terrible. Well, after Max, you go into Prime Video, then you have Apple TV Plus, Paramount Plus, Peacock, and then Roku. You know what I'm saying? Those are like the probably the major ones. There's some Tubi and there's some other stupid ones that are out there, but Apple TV is great, but you know the problem with Apple TV?

SPEAKER_05 9:14

That I think everyone in their life has like a friend that's an Apple TV snob where they'll bring up some show you've never heard of. Yeah, they're like, oh, have you seen like the I don't know, the the third road down from the left on Apple TV? And it's like, no, it's like, oh, you're missing out. That's one of the best shows ever made.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

So there's a great podcast. It's called The Shrink Next Door. And they did a show. It's with Will Farrell and um it'll come to me. Who's who's Ant Man? What's his name? Oh, Paul Rudd. Paul Rudd, yeah. Two awesome, like generationally awesome actors for millennials, right? Um, in and period. The podcast itself, wildly entertaining, right? It's like the psychologist ends up taking over the life of this wealthy, like guy that owns like a carpet company in New York, and like it's it's it's crazy. It was it was huge, like 10 years ago. Well, they made a show, and when I saw it was on Apple TV, I was like, damn, I really want to watch that, but I'm gonna have to punt it. Yeah. Apple TV's just the I think it's the interface. And we are like completely integrated 100% Apple people in this room. Yeah, you know what's tough? Apple that's the one Apple thing I'm not into.

Interface Wars: Prime, Paramount, Apple

SPEAKER_03 10:17

It's hard to watch it because no one else really watches it, at least that I know. So I love having conversations about shows with you guys, or yeah, and then if I were to watch something on that, I'd just have to keep it to myself. There's no one to talk to about it. I I don't really care that much about that part.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

I just feel like the interface you get on it, and it's just trash. It's it's arguably too clean. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:39

Where it's like the artsy is shit, and I'm like, for being artsy. I don't want to watch it. It's like the opposite of Prime. I feel like Prime has one of the worst interfaces.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

Prime's interface, you're the biggest company in the world.

SPEAKER_05 10:49

That literally the worst, the absolute worst is uh it's Paramount Plus. I have their app on my TV, and like I used to think it was my TV that Paramount. Oh my god, I got a like a brand new like Amazon Fire TV, so there's no reason it's the TV. It like lags.

SPEAKER_03 11:07

You can't even see the app. I deal with the same thing on my why it's been years like that. The worst part is uh so we were watching The Land Man on Paramount, the whole reason I even had it. And when you would go into like try to find the newest episode, you'd click play instead of it wouldn't let you like go into the episodes and pick one. So you'd resume where you left off last episode, you'd go back to the home screen. It was this whole roundabout thing to try to even get to the newest episode. You just couldn't do it. It was took 20 minutes just to load load up the episode.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

So, alright, you got one gun to your head. What are you taking?

SPEAKER_03 11:42

Wait, what are the big three? What are we calling the big three? Netflix, Disney, and Amazon?

SPEAKER_05 11:48

Don't put prime in the big three. I know I know which one I'm taking. Gun to my head, easy.

SPEAKER_03 11:54

We're not gonna play Mary?

SPEAKER_05 11:56

We could do that. What?

SPEAKER_03 11:57

Is Hulu probably bigger than no?

Gun-To-Head Picks And HBO Loyalty

SPEAKER_05 12:01

Should I just come out and say it? I'm taking HBO. Pick the three. Okay. And then we'll play.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

Okay. I think Netflix has to be in there. Obviously. I think Disney, because it includes three. It includes Hulu and Esp and has to be in there. Okay, you're including them.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Got it. Yeah, well then you gotta go with Max.

SPEAKER_03 12:16

Let's go. So we're going Max, Disney, and Netflix. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:21

Okay. Mary'll pull it. Go ahead. I'm gonna Mary Max. Just I I love everything on HBO, whether it's whether it's shows, movies, comedies, documentaries, it's all just top-notch. Like everything on there. You're still putting HBO up there. Oh, it's right there. It's everything on there is just vetted. It's so nice. Um then who else do we have Netflix and Disney? Yeah. I'll probably kill Disney. Disney Plus was fun for a minute, whenever it's like, oh, it's all these old like movies and stuff that you haven't seen. The Star Wars was cool, but like unless I'm going on there for like Star Wars or like like an old nostalgic movie, I barely touch it. And then I guess I don't know if that means I'm gonna f the streaming service, but I guess I'm gonna f Netflix, whatever that means.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

So maybe we'll yeah, I mean you're going deep on stranger things.

SPEAKER_05 13:07

Yeah, you know what? I you know what actually I'll take that. I will say I'm gonna f Netflix because I'm not gonna be like committed, but I will say like it's fun to like that's where you kind of like explore. Like I wouldn't usually watch this, but it's Netflix, so let's throw it on. You walk a shame away from the TV.

SPEAKER_03 13:31

It's a respectable player, Joe. I guess he's not wrong. I love a lot of the Disney um, I like their catalog, which is tough. I love Marvel. I guess I'm gonna have to marry Max. There you go. Uh I'm gonna have to kill Disney and Netflix. Um I'm with Pola on that. I could do without Disney. I don't know if I could maybe for you it's different. I don't have a need really to watch a lot of that stuff. And if I do, I guess I could just watch it on Prime, even though it's not in this list.

Disney Fatigue, Multiverse Mess

SPEAKER_01 14:03

But yeah, I'm I'm I'm struggling to come up with a different reason. I mean, gotta marry HBO. HBO is that refined, like refined uh upscale lifestyle that you dream about when but when you're being an idiot in your early 20s, like that's the thing you're ignoring the most. You're like, yes, I I do love, you know, sourdough, which is delicious and a better for you bread, obviously. And that's what HBO is. It's like a better story, a more refined character arc, better dedication. Like, we're waiting years for these Game of Thrones shows with HBO, and every one of us is still watching, and we're still watching them every day. Like, that's the type of commitment that you need in a marriage, right? You can and when you're young, I'm with Sam. It's like you're getting weird with Netflix. Oh, yeah, that's right. You're like, yeah, I'll try. Yeah, yeah. I'll try this like mind-numbing, dumb rot, brain rot, bullshit. This another 50 cent documentary, like, let's go. Another 50 cents. Was it a great option? Am I getting better as a human? Probably not, right? Am I gonna regret this at some point? There's a high likelihood of it. So it's very hard to not throw that into the category. But then you've got Disney, and Disney for me. I'll throw it a lifesaver for you. It's a lifesaver. I mean, you got some some beautiful properties in Disney. Yeah, I know, right? But then they're doing all this stupid shit where it's just ruining everything, right? You're just like the the the f ruining the the the the Marvel series, like all the kind of things. Yeah, ruining Loki was the last go one. Ruining them, but then you get yeah, but then you have like a Loki where you're like, there's still a chance here.

SPEAKER_03 15:48

They pull you back in. Can they ruin you?

SPEAKER_01 15:50

It's like that, it's like that shitty girlfriend you had in your early twenties that try you that that you thought was like an angel was really actually the f worst, right? But you believe the whole time you could change her, and she was just fing. This is getting unique and specific, right? Yeah, kill that shit. Kill that thing, man. Let that. Put that butt down, bury it in the yard. Disney, get your shit together. This racial's for free on YouTube, man.

SPEAKER_03 16:15

That's all you need.

SPEAKER_01 16:21

There's gonna be a resurgence of Marvel. I've given up on it. And but like we're just gonna sit, we're probably gonna you're probably gonna have gray hair by the time that happens. You might even have gray hair by the time that happens.

SPEAKER_05 16:32

I had a professor that said something about uh like the the comic book movies. I feel like Star Wars falls into this now. I feel like they're our generation's westerns where like there's a hundred percent like some really good ones. It's like, oh, that one's a classic, that one's this, that one's that, but there's more and more they're just being made that's kind of like fodder. Just like when you look at like like there's obvious westerns back in the day, they they barely make them anymore, but there's ones that were like, oh, there's like true grit, there's unforgiven, there's the magnifnificent seven, but then there's just a shitload of awful. And I feel like that's like comic book movies. We're gonna be old folks watching our Marvel movies.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

They just like took it to they uh they took it to a capitalistic epic, right? Which is uh which is great, you know, love capitalism, but on the flip side of it, you're like, you just pushed it too too damn hard, right? And they like uh I'll say this Andor is another great Disney show, right? But like I was I've been to a point where like I'm watching Disney properties just with like hope in my heart. Yeah. I hope this is good. Like I really want this to be a good one. Um, but the the who are the brothers, the producers? I didn't know they were brother producers. The Russos. The Russos did come out and say they they oversaturated it with the volume of officers. Well, that's why they're resetting the Marvel universe. Resetting the universe. Doomsday's coming out this year. We who knows? We might have this conversation in six months, and that one movie could, you know, bring us back to one and trying to.

SPEAKER_03 18:01

We sound like addicts, man. Trying to get with that crazy. That's what Disney is.

SPEAKER_05 18:05

Well, you know the problem with that. I'm sure Doomsday is gonna be great, but it's like it's just so funny to watch them just like retreat back, where it's like, we'll bring back Robert Downey Jr., we'll bring back Chris Hemsworth, we'll bring back Chris Hines, we'll just we'll bring back the old Avengers.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

It's the old Avengers, they're back, guys. I'm so confused on the multiverse. I just have no I'm not an idiot.

SPEAKER_03 18:24

They don't even know. Not an idiot. That's the issue. It's like the Stranger Things. They don't even know what's happening, they're just putting out shit.

Password Sharing Fight

SPEAKER_05 18:29

People are getting fatigued from that, too, where it's like, if the first time it happened, it was really cool. Like, I I can't think of like what the first movie I saw to do that, but now they use it over and over again. It's like we feel like we're you're using this for like lazy writing, where it's like, I don't know, 100%. This guy comes in from another universe. Here it is.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

I I kind of got fed up with Marvel when one of my buddies we were talking about. I I didn't understand something in the multiverse. He's like, You haven't watched the the Disney series, the animated one? I'm like, no, what do you mean? I didn't even know there was a Disney animated series. It's like, yeah, dude, it goes deep in the multiverse. You should you gotta go watch it to understand it. I have to go watch an animated property just to understand what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 19:07

I watch YouTubers do explainers of whatever I'm watching because I'm so lost. Yeah. And like Emergency Awesome, great, right? There's another channel I watch. There's this one dude, he just bashes everything, he's hilarious. I love it. You know what I mean? The YouTubers are better than the actual shows and their reactions.

SPEAKER_03 19:26

The dude that draws everything out. Bro. Oh, that guy. We need him to draw out the multiverse. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

I've been high. Can we DM him? Olympics? I've been obsessed with that dude. Dude, his drawing is amazing. I've learned everything about the Winner Olympics just by watching his channel. I've learned everything about life curling at biathlon, at like all like the metal.

SPEAKER_03 19:45

Have you seen this guy? What? Dude, he like tells a story with his drawings.

The Cost Creep Back To Cable

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Oh, it's incredible. We're not this. What's his name? I'll pull it up. Um, I've just shared it with Sarah like 67 times while I was I've so for those of you that don't know, my wife just had uh gave birth to our fourth child, a little baby boy, uh JJ, John, Joseph, you know, uh everyone's doing well. He was he had a brief stint in the NICU. Um so we were in the hospital for five, six days, and I was on my phone more in those five days than I've ever been on my phone. Um, and so to Joe's point, I was just watching, it's called sports ball. Right? Okay. Uh but 100% with you. If I have to watch an explainer after a show, probably a little bit too complex. And I'm not like, no, I'm Inception, different level of explainer. Multiverse, it's just I'm with Sam. They're just making shit up because they're being lazy. Like, and I'm not saying that writing has gotten inherently worse. I think people have forgot to push the element. And I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I read a lot of sci-fi, I read a lot of fantasy, and there are some phenomenal storytellers that are writing right now. Now, new era sci-fi fantasy is a little bit, it's a little bit different than like your Tolkien's or your George R. R. Martin's. But with that, there's still some fantastic original story out there that they could adapt to movie and and they're doing it with some stuff. Let these people get on these shows, right? Stop being greedy pigs and give us some good entertainment and storytelling. Like, I don't need you to just take a superhero, eliminate one characteristic of their humanity, right? Oh, they're missing a foot, or you know, they're they're all of a sudden they're gig they're 12 feet tall. Like, same superhero, same story, same arc, same hero's arc, right? Like blah, blah, blah. Come on. Get out of here with that, Disney. If I have to watch an explainer because there's 11 of them, I'm also confused. Like, 11 of them? They've just lost me. So I think with that, we we got a rank. We've got we all agreed on the Mary F kill, which is why. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:47

Yeah. Well, I was gonna say the last thing I will say you know what's been pissing me off with Netflix? What's that? Um Everything with my family, we all share a Netflix account. And why they've recently let me why? This is That's how it used to be. That's how it is.

SPEAKER_05 22:06

We all share one.

SPEAKER_03 22:07

Is it a family account? Yeah, it's a family account. Oh. So you have your own like algorithm. I have my own, yeah, I do have my own profile. You're all in one profile. No, no. But they started what they started doing is because my mom watches from her home, my brother's in the middle of Pennsylvania, watches from there, and I'm not living there, so I somewhere else. It started like pinging the IP addresses and they're cracking down on the passcodes. So every time I go on Netflix, I have to get a temporary passcode saying I'm traveling. Every time. So I I stopped watching Netflix, really. That's for the thing. It's the most annoying thing in the world. We're paying for a subscription. If I want to watch it in California one day and then New York the next day, I should be able to. And I can in theory, but it shouldn't be a whole rhyme and riddle just to be able to get into Netflix.

SPEAKER_05 22:50

I I remember the day that happened because a buddy of mine from college literally for we had a streak for like five years where like he paid for Netflix, I paid for HBO, and we shared the password. So it's like, oh, we're getting these half price. HBO, they never did any of that shit. Netflix, I remember.

SPEAKER_01 23:09

Please share it.

SPEAKER_03 23:11

How many billions are they worth?

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SPEAKER_01 23:13

Oh, I mean I'm not into it. It blows my mind. I respect the business model. I'm going to stay here as like be an adult, pay for your own shit. There's got to be an age cap. It should be like it should be like health insurance. See, that's where I disagree. There's nothing wrong with it. Once you're over a certain age, get your own subscriptions, learn how to be an adult.

SPEAKER_03 23:31

This is the problem with America. That's not about learning how to be an adult. Yeah, just pay your own bills. That's not paying your own bills. It's just literally sharing something with your family.

SPEAKER_05 23:40

I heard a good quote. I was watching this documentary about the Pirate Bay, and they were saying, like, with music, for example, it's like we basically have to pay to rent music. Like you don't even own it anyway, when you're renting it for like Spotify, Apple Music. You're right. So why not just pirate this shit anyway? I don't know. I don't know. I've got Apple Music. It's too much effort to pirate now, but back in the day.

Streaming Tier List: S Through D

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Let me ask you guys this. Now, we are YouTubers for business. All of us are paid because of wonderful YouTube. YouTube does not restrict your ability to have multiple people on an account because it's just free open, you know, open source, right? Yeah, yeah. But imagine a world where we were creators who primarily only made paid content on something like Netflix, right? Where you're paid in comp based on total viewership, right? And as creators, you're like, well, if it's based on subscribers, one, you're getting convoluted data on what's actually performing and what's not, but two, you're probably not getting anywhere close to the amount of rev split that you could be because you have seven people using one password. So there's there's a lot of sides to this. And I'm very adamantly like, grow up, paper your own shit.

SPEAKER_03 24:55

That's the what if shit, though. Like, that's the they have enough people on the platform using it paying. Like, so what if everybody did it? So in theory, everybody had a subscription, so we could make more money than the billions we already make. It's one and the same. It's it's really like to me, it doesn't make a capitalist.

SPEAKER_05 25:13

It's a staple of American culture sharing the Netflix password. You're you're against America if you're not if you're against not sharing Netflix. It's just a Netflix password.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

I just want to watch one show, then go about my day. That's all. I I'm not trying to this is what I'm I'm anti-free loading.

SPEAKER_05 25:28

So I'm not into that. Okay, this is what I'll say. I think I'm fine with them having a limit on how many people were watching at once. I can agree with that. No issue with that, where it's like you're paying for a Netflix account, no more than like two TVs on at once. I'm fine with that. I won't complain. But you're pulling IPs to see where I'm That's the only way you can do it. Well, but the the old system where it was just limited how many TVs, like what does it matter if there's two people viewing?

SPEAKER_03 25:53

Why can't you just pay for more TVs? Exactly. I'd rather that more systems to be able to sign up for. I we would pay more. What if you have a house full of 16 kids and there's 16 different TVs in the house?

SPEAKER_05 26:05

You have to get six Netflix accounts.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

Whatever their family accounts are. Probably be the same as the address. Because they're all in the IP. The problem is when adults grow up and go get full-time jobs and don't live in their parents' houses anymore, and they're trying to watch on mommy and daddy's account, that's where they get pissed off. Yeah, but you and your buddy. Yeah, come on, man.

SPEAKER_05 26:23

Share the share the share the password. I think we're back up to cable prices, man. We're back up to like over a hundred dollars going to streaming.

SPEAKER_03 26:31

Yeah, you're just like agreeing with the streaming services here. You know what I mean? It's like I would say it's freeloading. It's getting around.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

First off, yes, I do agree. Right? Are they too expensive? Yes, but I think you should have your you should pay for your account on everything you own, right? Stop stealing shit. Be a adult. Take care, take care of your shit. Because that the you gotta remember, there's a subconscious problem when you're using someone else's password. What's the what all of a sudden you're like, oh, I forgot to pay my water bill. Why? I thought mommy and daddy were taking care of it. That's how the world works nowadays.

Prime’s Case: Theaters To Home

SPEAKER_03 27:05

I think you're trying to correlate two different emails here. You're comparing freeloading to sharing a Netflix password. Two very polar opposite ends of us. That's not true at all.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

The way you do one thing is the way you do it.

SPEAKER_03 27:17

Negative. That's not true because I know for damn sure for myself I might share a Netflix password, but all my bills are paid. I don't freeload off my parents. So, like, we're just kind of saying shit.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

No, you're an adult grown man and making an excuse in one small element, right?

SPEAKER_03 27:33

Why are you why do you care for that element? It's the one thing that doesn't affect you. People sharing a Netflix password. It's$15.99. You will never have to worry about a day in your life. I know. Why the f does that bother you? Why don't you just pay it? Well, I could pay it. What do you mean we share? Because I pay for other shit for my parents. It goes hand in hand. I pay for this thing, they pay for this thing. I do this, we do that.

SPEAKER_05 27:57

Sometimes I feel like what makes life exciting is getting away with these little things here and there. You know what I mean? Yeah, just a little one here and there.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

I I can't get behind the Netflix password sharing, but I can get behind like sharing a Comcast login. Okay. That's like 152. See, I feel like that's out of control. See, that's what I'm saying. It's like it's like back rolling. So when I was broke and young, like in my early 20s, they just started using like the ability to log into things with your account. Yeah. I was using my mom's as literally as long as I possibly could. Then I hit a point where it was a huge pain in my ass. I was like, I'm gonna have to start paying for this for myself, right? But I was like 25. I'm not 37 years old trying to use my mom's Netflix password. You know what? I never had success with logging into their cable provider. Yeah, I would try and could every back in the day, back in when that first became an option, it was super easy to just share that. Yeah. And then they they got pretty savvy because that's like a that's uh you're going from a$15 to a hundred and fifty dollar yeah.

SPEAKER_05 29:05

I mean this one, oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

Yeah, you're you're you're you're laying the the um the the the the packet of um of Kool-Aid on top of your turkey and staining that shit at Palmer. That's the same thing.

App Nightmares And Exclusives

SPEAKER_03 29:15

Jokes aside, if the prices weren't so expensive, I probably you know, whatever. I wish you got uh I I will say I wish you got more for the price increase. I pay for too much shit as it is. So that's where it's just like we share logins. It's just uh pay for Hulu, pay for Disney, pay for Netflix, pay for Paramount, pay for uh I guess ESPN Plus comes with it. Um HBO Max, that's six services, YouTube premiums.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

So I get rid of all of them. Well, uh get rid of all of them. I we pay for YouTube TV, and so like that's only like sixty, seventy bucks a month. I just canceled mine. Um because my we well that's how we watch live sports, right? And then I you know I got boomer parents and boomer in-laws, like they come over there, like literally want to watch the news. My wife also likes to watch the news because she's an attorney. So, you know, whatever that is, if you like to suck any joy out of your life with the news, it's a great way to get it. Um why wouldn't you want it? Why wouldn't you want to suck the life on demand? You just sit there and wait for it and watch it anyway. I'm adamantly against the news. Um, I think it's so useless these days. But that being said, if you go with that, and then we have Netflix, HBO Max, and Disney, you're almost 100% covered. You don't need much more. We don't have the I don't have ESPN Plus, I don't have Hulu, I don't have Paramount, um, which is probably a like I I used to have Paramount.

SPEAKER_03 30:35

I'm telling you, there's a Disney bundle that you get ESPN Plus and Hulu all together. I know that, but I don't know what I would want to watch on those. Like I there's not a moment where I'm not sure. I don't even touch Hulu. Ashley watches Hulu. Yeah. And then I watch ESPN Fly. I used to for the UFC, but now it's on.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

I kid you not, when I started dating my wife, I walked in her apartment, she had on the Kardashians. I said, if you ever want if you want us, if you want this to work, you're turning that off at the moment.

SPEAKER_05 30:57

What was that? Your hill would die, huh?

SPEAKER_01 30:59

It's the worst television ever. It's not the one literally is I can show you stuff way worse than that. I honestly think, I honestly think this follow along with people like and just build fake drama television is the demise of the American populace. No, I know what you know what I would argue. Worry about your own shit. It's the fake, the fake stuff. Stop worrying about other like why do you give a shit with the stand on it?

GOAT Shows Showdown

SPEAKER_05 31:26

The fake stuff is honestly fine. Your statement, honestly, what what's probably ruining it, and I already watch a lot of it, so I'm probably contributing to it. Like back in like the early 2000s, reality TV, they would stage things, fake things, like ham it up. That wasn't that bad. Now they'll just follow real ass people in really weird circumstances.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

Okay, now think of that progression. Yeah. Those people were young, they watched reality television, that was a hundred percent fake. Yeah, and then they believe that that's what reality is. They adapted their life, and now they live that way, which is why the world is so insane. Yeah, but there's a lot of people think it's normal to just walk into your house, break shit, scream at your significant other, make a big dramatic scene, and put the whole thing on Instagram. Because the Kardashians did that for a decade.

SPEAKER_05 32:12

Now, correlation does not equal causation. It 100% does. No, it doesn't. That's like that's how you condition people. That is literally conditioning one of the.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

No, they're not. I love I mean, I'm I love that they're thriving entrepreneurs. I think that's admirable. You're looking at like my 600 pound life, like you're probably giving people a reason to want to be 600 pounds. Have you ever I want to get on the show? Woo! Get the f out of here. Get your shit together.

SPEAKER_05 32:36

I want to show you a show so bad it's called Hate It. Tokyo Tony's Quest for Love. No!

SPEAKER_03 32:42

Forget Tokyo Tony's Quest for Love. Let's rank these so we can get on with everything. Forget all these five. We're not doing all of these.

SPEAKER_01 32:49

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SPEAKER_03 34:16

First up, Netflix, what tier is it going in? It's still gotta be eight or A or B, because just because there's not much above it. I'd say it used to be S. I'd say it's an A tier. I yeah, I agree with that. All right. HBO Max. S.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

I'm still going S. I think it's honestly if the Knight of the Seven Kingdoms wasn't so good right now, it might be an A. Do you see the end? I didn't see the finale yet. I had the most insane night of my life. I cannot talk about it on air. Perhaps I will tell the story in the Builder Bunker. If you want to get some exclusive content, you can catch it on over there. That's where we do more stupidity, more dumb shit, more less bleeps, right? We don't bleep the F-bombs in the Builder Bunker out right now. Extended cuts, early releases, all kinds of cool shit there. I'll tell you guys a story in the Builder Bunker, actually. My night last night. Disney B. Yeah, I can live with it. I can live with B. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

It's got because like, yeah. Hulu?

SPEAKER_05 35:12

I don't know a single Hulu thing, so I'm throwing it on Who. I would say A to A tier, man.

SPEAKER_03 35:17

I'd say let's put it at B to compromise with John because he has it at ass.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

I don't know. Give me a single property that is completely owned by Hulu. I think that that's where I define streaming service.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

Paradise is a good show that just came out last year. White Lotus HBO. White Loads. No, White Loads is HBO.

Weekly Drops Vs Binge Dumps

SPEAKER_05 35:32

I don't know if they have a ton of original content. They have a ton of movies and shows. Like pretty much any show you used to watch, like Family Guys on there, like any show that used to be. Hold on a second. Hold on. Hold on a f second. What?

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Is King of the Hill on there? Yeah. That's 100% the only original. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:48

And the new King. The new King of the Hill is exclusively on Hulu. How can I forget that? Yeah. But it doesn't have exclusive. It doesn't have its own. It has some, just not a lot. No, it doesn't own shit. The Predator franchise?

SPEAKER_01 35:59

Doesn't own it. You don't own Arnold. Get out of here. Oh, uh oh no, that's Prime. I don't know. We'll leave it there. That's B. B's fine. I like I said, I just I I I judge the tiers based on their um their their like owned properties.

SPEAKER_03 36:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:14

Right? Prime video.

SPEAKER_03 36:18

That's my take.

SPEAKER_05 36:19

I I want to say C, but they have some original content I really like. Like I love the boys, I love Invincible. The terminal list, I'm putting B too.

SPEAKER_03 36:28

Dude, see here's my thing. I'll say it's an A tier. Only for this. No, no. You get some properties that come out of theaters. It is the only place Lord of the Rings. Yes. Right? You have The Hobbit, but they're both that's the only place you can get it on an A. I didn't go see Marty Supreme in theaters. It was on Prime Video in 30 days. They were the first ones to have it on platform. I'm giving it to Joe. Oh my God. Dude, you can watch That's ridiculous. You can rent some movies on there that just were in theaters. He's right. Not even 20 years. There's a few nice perks. Like I said, there's even some original shows. I'm not saying the overall, but I know there's downsides to platform.

SPEAKER_05 37:03

That's all you need it for. I don't have to have it. That's it, though.

Ranking Days Of The Week

SPEAKER_01 37:06

It does have good originals. Emmy Award-winning originals. I love Jack Carr, the Terminalist series, Chris Pratt, like that's all on Prime. Dude, it's only better. The Rings of Power. That's shit up hard. Reachers on Prime Video? Yeah. Anyone watch Reachers? Joe's right. Dude, they have some great films. Oh, you're over here stroking off Hulu.

SPEAKER_05 37:24

They don't have a single. It's massive. If you logged into Hulu right now and saw what's on there, like there's nothing. You can find something you love instantly on Hulu like that. It's so good. Paramount Plus? Put that shit on C tier.

SPEAKER_04 37:36

You know where that's below. Lower if you can't. It has Yellowstone.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

It has Yellowstone and it has Landman. I heard Landman's incredible. I love Landman.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

If you can get the app to open up. I don't know if one or two properties. It's got S tier shows, but the app itself is trash. As well as like, there's just not a lot on it. Apple TV. Apple TV has got to go D or C.

SPEAKER_04 37:58

C. C. Give it some respect.

SPEAKER_03 38:01

Don't they have that one show everyone was going crazy with the stuff?

SPEAKER_04 38:03

I still want to see Severance. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. Hold on. Which one's Severance?

SPEAKER_03 38:08

Severance is like the dude that's like in the office space in a basement or something.

SPEAKER_05 38:11

I think the guy from Step Brothers was like the main brother, the uh Wolf Everald's older brother. It's like an office show, right? It's like a I heard it's really good. It's yeah, it's a big thing.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

What about Peacock? Peacock. It's on Peacock. Yeah, I was gonna say Peacock just tries to hijack random NFL games. That's literally all there, man. The worst timing. Like, I gotta hit Peacock.

SPEAKER_03 38:31

Damn it. I'd say Tubi and Peacock are probably it's another one. Tubi's where you go. It's another one. There's a thousand different channels here, but we'll end on Roku. What the f is the Roku channel? Oh, we were streaming on the Roku channel. We used to be on the Roku channel. We used to send them more stuff.

SPEAKER_05 38:47

How can I forget the Roku channel?

SPEAKER_03 38:49

S tier Roku because we were on it.

SPEAKER_01 38:51

Let's go. Roku? So the thing with those, I think that they just don't Roku doesn't have any original properties, but it Roku is a syndicate. So it'll take hubs of property from other areas and then republish it and it'll publish them like television. But you could only watch it if you have a lot of people. You can't watch on demand, you can watch it in a television sequence. So you could watch, you know, Drama Lecky Builds and Unscrewed Us. We had a segment on Roku for like five years. And then they're like Profit Sharing, what the shit? So we're not on Roku anymore. We're adamantly against YouTube building, maybe. Let's go. At least do it. I guess YouTube in the Builder Bunker.

SPEAKER_03 39:27

So I I think I think that wraps the show segment. I had some fun stuff. We went a little long on.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

Let's know. I want to put a cap on the show thing. You did have some fun shit there, but this this got good. I think the only way to wrap this episode is each one of us depicts the goat show of all time and fight it to the death. Of all time. We'll get an audience poll on it. Goat show. And the loser, the worst one, will have a deplorable punishment in the Bildermonger.

SPEAKER_03 40:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 40:01

We're doing this live. I'm coming in here on no sleep, and I have like seven cups of coffee in me. And I've eaten 36 hours.

SPEAKER_05 40:07

Mind this is not a it's a very popular one, but it's it's fun. It's either gonna be breaking bad or better call Saul, but they're so close. They're so close.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

So I I I love Breaking Bad. Never I I just time of my life, Better Call Saul, faded. It was just too late. I didn't have the time to watch it, so I never got into it, but I heard it's absolutely phenomenal.

SPEAKER_05 40:25

I didn't watch it when it first came out because I thought it was just gonna be like a like a like a cash grab spinoff, but it was actually really good.

SPEAKER_03 40:32

It was I have a show that I could say that I will 100% lose. So you're going with Breaking Bad? See, that's like a that's a layup.

SPEAKER_05 40:38

Actually, actually. Yeah, no, you know what? I'll I'll go better call Saul. I'll give I'm gonna go better call. I feel like Saul's personality has a lot of pula.

SPEAKER_01 40:47

It does. Right? He's like contradictory, yeah, right? He's like skittish as shit on some stuff. He's like vindicated in other areas. Yeah, he's great. He's like a root stone cold killer behind the scenes. He's never no. No, but like mentality-wise, yeah. I'll go better called. You're not a physical killer, but mentally, you want people you want to kill people all the time. No, I don't want to kill anybody. Yeah, mentally though, you knew. He's over here like stabbing a what says dolls. Voodoo dolls. Voodoo dolls, me and Joe. Like, my knee hurts today. Sam's like, that's all bitch! I took a sewing class this weekend. Don't even lie, you did it. Were we cores?

SPEAKER_05 41:26

Three voodoo dolls. Pretty good. Got pots of all you guys.

SPEAKER_03 41:32

What do you got? Dude, I I don't want to I'm gonna have to pivot. There's a show, this isn't my answer, that is like one of the best shows I've ever watched. Our audience, I don't know if they'll be real into it. It was a show on um it's on Disney Hulu. It's called Snowfall. I don't know if I knew that. Oh man, it is a lot of kids my age love it, so it's not I don't think you guys would be familiar.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

You're that age.

SPEAKER_03 41:54

Snowfall. Maybe I see a photo of it or something. Franklin Saint?

SPEAKER_05 41:59

Oh, I've I've never seen a full episode, but I've been served so many clips from this show. It actually does look pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 42:06

No, I've never heard of it before. He's a high schooler. He got into selling drugs, took over, basically, started running. He was the kingpin of everything. It's it's really good. It's a really good show. Um the way they tell stories, it's it's nuts, it's authentic. It's I loved it when I watched it. That won't be my answer, though. Just because I'm gonna do another layup. I'll say Game of Thrones. Whole property or the original? Whole property. I mean, it's yeah, the way they, you know, for the for their their issues they've had, there was a lot of greatness inside the Game of Thrones.

SPEAKER_05 42:46

And I mean that's what discounts it as a goat for me, is like I feel like if you could have a show where every season's impeccable, it's so hard to do, but then they fumbled with like the last two.

Saturday Chaos, Sunday Rhythm

SPEAKER_03 42:54

I would have said Breaking Bad if you didn't, but he did. So here we are. I can't say the same thing as you. Yeah. I'll say Game of Thrones, just the way it's just cinema. Yeah. They write really well. George R. Martin's a if he would just finish that last book. He just finished something. He just he just came out. Did you see the shit with that dude? No. He came out and said he uh wrote a sequel about the um the Mad King or whatever. Really? He just finished it and they're they're moving on to publishing and all this other shit. Just finish the book, dude. Forget the the new stuff.

Final Prompts And Builder Bunker CTA

SPEAKER_01 43:25

Go write the last book. It's weird with those like like high fantasy like novelists, like where they pull inspiration from, because they'll just go deep in like once you get into it, you gotta it's just so impressive to think about world mapping and language and character. And like if they're in a rabbit hole, like uh I think that that's the problem where he's at right now is there's such a hype behind that that final book that like he'll die before he finishes it at this point, yeah. Which is a shame. There's also like doesn't matter what he does, people are gonna be disappointed. Oh, oh yeah, right? You know what I did forget about the I'll let you know. I'll throw some hype. High level shows out there. I'll throw one out there right now just because it's got a movie coming out that I'd probably go with. But I always like there's so many good ones, right? So I'm watching Game of Thrones, right? Uh Breaking Bad. Like, I love for me, The Wire is probably top three just because the wire was that first I was old enough to appreciate great great television. And then it was just like so good that it got me into like entire universes of shows. It was like that first one where I was like, oh, I can watch season one through I think there was five, like season one through five non-stop and not be like let down. Right before that, it was like, man, I didn't really care if you caught an episode here, you caught an episode there. And then um, you know, a couple other ones I would I would throw out there. Um House of Cards had a great run until that until it like fell off the cliff on that last game. Kevin Spacey go too wild. Um Kevin Spacey just a wild actor. Do you remember what was um um True Detective? I mean, these are a lot of these are HBO shows, which is wild. Um True Detective was great. I never saw that one first couple seasons of Westworld. Yeah, yeah, great. You know, it's a show I totally forgot about Peaky Blinders. And that's gonna be my vote right now, because uh the way I'm looking at it where I'm sitting today is like I love Game of Thrones and I love fantasy, but you have to like actually sit and be mega into it to pick up the like what's actually happening, the lore, the all of it, right? And Peaky Blinders right now is a like if it's on, if it like if we were back in the television days and it's on, it's just like Lord of the Rings for me. I'm not changing it, like leave it on because you don't have to be majorly invested to still understand what's moving in the story, right? That and on top of it, Tommy Shelby's back baby. The they just dropped a couple of the trailers for the movie, it's gonna be glorious in one way or another. Killian Murphy is uh he's like at the peak of his career, which is awesome. Um, such a good actor. He's incredible, yeah. And and uh, and that show for me, like it was like one of those early shows that my wife and I got into together. I don't think I think you could be male or female, like I and and and just be mega into it, which I think is is awesome, super important for like a GOAT show. Do I think it's the greatest of all time? Period. No, but right now, it's it's it's right there. If I was to go back and watch a show right now, it'd be the one I'd watch for that movie coming out. I think there's no arguments to be had.

SPEAKER_05 46:34

We just keep like listing very well-established shows. Oh, yes, that one is good too.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

I think well, Joe had this obscure show, but he then he defaulted right off of it. Dude, I'm telling you. I thought you might pull something out of your ass. Like, I thought you would throw King of the Hill up there.

SPEAKER_05 46:47

Like uh Yeah, well, no, I don't know. But like Better Call Saul, if you would see the ending, so you never watched it. That show, by the time it got to the end, like the final episode, it's in black and white, and it's just oh my god, it was such a good ending. I literally I got done with it, and I spent like days going back and forth. I'm like, was that better than Breaking Bad? Was that and like probably objectively it's not, but to me, I'm like something about it.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

So have you have you look here's a question Have you ever watched like the full run of The Wire? I've never even watched the episode of The Wire. Have you ever watched Full Run of Sopranos? Oh, The Sopranos. I haven't seen the full run of Sopranos. Really? I was too young. So like The Sopranos. So The Sopranos for me was the show my parents watched after I went to bed as a kid. Yeah. And so like I'd catch it, like But you didn't really watch it. And because I was just in that weird age gap when I got older, I was like, oh, that's for my parents, and I never went back. But now as an adult, I like have an appreciation and I've seen episodes, and I'm like, this is good. I think it's real good. Yeah, I got bored in college and just watched the whole thing. Yeah, so like I didn't that was for me. I was watching like Lost. Yeah. Right, which was like just a stupid show, but it was good. Terrible ending. Right. The ending made me it just went from being like an A to S tier to the fingers. The start of the show was great, and then it just went downhill. Alright, so let us know what what's your favorite show, and then I think at some point we've got a gauntlet live on YouTube and just bring the people along with us. Like we're watching all of the wire. Yeah. Right? Uh the wire, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_03 48:19

The characters in the wire, it is so if this episode gets 50,000 likes, Sam and I will make John watch an episode of The Mormon Wives. Yes. We've got no shot at that, so uh deal. Start running putties. I'm gonna get all these bots to like it.

SPEAKER_01 48:37

Pay for likes. So speaking of goat shows, I think one thing that used to be incredibly important for a goat show that like is just gone now, but HBO still does it, is what day of the week is it published and what time is it coming out? Because then you build like that anticipation. I will say there was a moment when like the you'd get the Netflix dump where it was like the most glorious shit, right? You're getting all of them, you can just binge it, ruin your life. I think that actually ruined a generation, right? Because you're just like, I'm gonna veg out on the couch for 12 hours and watch everything Netflix just gave me. But like, do you miss the days of what HBO does now and they roll out an episode a week? Like, I I will say the gap between episode four and five, the two-week gap on the night of the seven kings, but I was pissed. Yeah, I was like, give me that shit. Like, I was sitting around on I I you know, I didn't watch a Sunday night at 10 p.m. but I do miss the full seasons. You so you what your full season gap.

SPEAKER_05 49:34

I I if it's a good show, I like the days of the week. If it's subpar, just give it to me all at once. Really? Yeah, like but I I like that they have Night of the Seven Kingdoms spaced out. Otherwise, I would literally have just gassed it all in one night. And there were 30 minutes. And then it's gone, then it's it gives you something to look forward to. Sunday, Sunday, 10 o'clock.

SPEAKER_01 49:52

HBO's the only one that does it. It brings us to our next question is what's the greatest day of the week?

SPEAKER_03 49:59

Funny enough, I actually have a tier list with every day of the week. How did you make that?

SPEAKER_01 50:05

Two tier lists in one episode? Uh can the people handle it? Can you handle it?

SPEAKER_03 50:11

All right. Well shit. All right, let's start it off. Let's just let's rip through it and then we'll we'll talk about why if someone wants to defend one. Okay. All right, let's start out with Monday.

SPEAKER_05 50:22

I'm actually gonna say C. I won't go all the way down to D.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

See, I'm Monday's an A for me. Wow. I I am big on like if you can make Monday great, you can steamroll the week and it's freaking epic. Like, you can have a great week if you just make Monday a priority.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

It's always hard, but like pick your hard man.

SPEAKER_05 50:46

I probably shouldn't be saying this to you as my employer. Monday is like my get my bearings about me. I know.

SPEAKER_01 50:51

I mean, I'm a hundred percent aware.

SPEAKER_05 50:54

There's not a flower day in Sam's week than Monday. But even like mentally, I'm telling you, there's something weird about it. No, I've been there. I haven't done any drinking this weekend, but it was like I haven't, I'm telling you. But I'm telling you, like, Monday, it's something about even the mindset of it, once it's gone, like Tuesday, then I feel like amped up. Like, oh, now I'm in the rhythm. Like I think it's the transition from the weekend to the work week. Like your brain, it's just that whole, like, okay, we're back in the swing of things here at work.

SPEAKER_03 51:24

Well, meet in the middle. I don't think Monday is the worst day of the week. I'd say it's a B. I'd say B tier. Sam said C, you said A. I think I I don't hate Mondays at all. Mondays are great, but I think it's like it's not the best day of the week by any means. Not the best, no. But I think that leads us into Tuesday, which Tuesday, Tuesday's. Tuesday's if I I'm gonna add an F tier.

SPEAKER_05 51:44

Tuesday is the worst day of the week. Yeah, aside from getting your bearings about you and being in the groove, aside from that, it's not very good because it feels like it somehow feels like you're further back in the week. Yeah, because you don't take Monday serious. No, I take month Monday. You should have saw we got done on Monday, man. I looked in that room. I'm asking that question. Yeah, well, I'll tell you when we get out of here. Actually, Joe and I got a lot to tell you, but we'll discuss that after the podcast.

SPEAKER_03 52:11

Um Tuesday's just the worst day of the week. It's the furthest from Friday. Tuesday's brutal. It's a lot of catch up. Yeah. A lot of catch up. That leads us to Wednesday. I think Wednesday's a fine day. It's the hump day. It's we're almost to the end of the week.

SPEAKER_01 52:25

Wednesday's like that day for me. It's like it's could not exist. Fair C tier feels like nothing great happening on Wednesdays. Yeah. You know, literally ever.

SPEAKER_03 52:36

Here's my hot take. We got Thursday coming up next. I think Thursday is the most underrated day of the week. So I'm I'm Thursday's an A tier for me. I think Thursday's an A tier. You could go out to dinner that night, get a drink, because tomorrow's Friday. Yeah, I wouldn't go.

SPEAKER_05 52:50

Uh I mean I'd be fine with A tier. I'd put it like one lower, but I do agree it is is nice.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

It's a it's a fine Thursday's for me is is the is the Saturday, right? You can set the tempo for the rest of your week and weekend and the next week if you if you conquer Thursday. I feel like in theory, any day of the week, anyway. The way you just did this. Sunday's too far away from Wednesday. You can't do shit on a Wednesday that's going to affect a Sunday. But Thursday, Sunday's close enough, right? That like even here, if we get our post done, it's it's ready to rock, the edits, yeah, but it's up, the thumbnails done, all that shit's ready, and that shit comes out Sunday, it feels awesome. Yeah. Right? Then you give yourself like some breathing room on Friday. But also for me, it's like, if I can just crush Thursday, right? Get up, crush a workout, keep the diet consistent, come into work, own it to your point. You can have a good dinner on Thursday night and not feel guilty on Friday, then you're setting yourself up for a glorious, glorious ride into the weekend.

SPEAKER_05 53:52

I like to lie to myself and pretend that Thursday is actually Friday and it's a three-day weekend where it's like if you have an activity planned after work on Friday. You should not have had this conversation with your employer. You know, where it's like, oh, here we go, man. Friday.

SPEAKER_02 54:07

So pretty much fans cashed out the funniest shit I could.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

Cashed out Monday. You cashed out Thursday.

SPEAKER_05 54:12

I give you three good days.

SPEAKER_03 54:14

You just told us you like you have to talk to yourself to convince yourself that Thursday's actually lies.

SPEAKER_05 54:21

I told myself to get through the week.

SPEAKER_02 54:23

Yeah, until he's waking up. You're sitting here babbling on a microphone.

SPEAKER_05 54:29

It's not difficult, but I did I've literally done it since I was a kid, even with school. I feel like it's just I think everyone views the weeks different. That's the funniest shit I've ever heard, man. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 54:40

That leads us to Friday. Friday. I want you to both go first. Listen, I think there's one answer. Pull up, hit them with what it is.

SPEAKER_05 54:48

Oh, for Friday? S tier. Absolutely. I think Friday's an S tier. Oh, yeah. It's I'm gonna I'm gonna pull up for this one. Don't do this shit. Don't try to don't be contrary to the shit. Shuts up.

SPEAKER_01 54:59

Days a D tier. Fridays are overrated. Oh, shut up. And the reason being is that everyone pulls their foot off the gas on Fridays. On Fridays are when people like this guy over here think it's a day to f take it easy. No. Fridays are where winners f in. Fridays, if you take advantage of a Friday and you come rolling out of a great Thursday, you can destroy. You can get ahead of the world because everyone else is ready to coast into their fing weekend. But winners are standing up on Fridays and they're getting after it. It's overrated from a lazy standpoint, but if you want to f win, that's what makes Friday S tier. That's what makes Friday an S tier. Not this bullshit like I'm taking off the fing pedal. No, hammer down Friday. Let's go.

SPEAKER_05 55:41

Y'all done with your speech there. I'll tell you what about Friday. I'm not taking my foot off the gas on Friday. If anything, you feel me. If you'll know anything, your foot's not even close to the You're wearing a slipper, your foot's the park the f I'm gonna do it. I'm coasting so far ahead, I don't even need to get on that gas. But you get to Friday, it's it's you feel invigorated when you're working. It's not if you get your foot off the gas, you're like, I got a little extra pep in my step because the weekend's coming. You know, you got some fun activities planned. I ask you guys every Friday what you got planned this weekend. It gets you amped up. You know, you have something to look forward to, motivate you.

SPEAKER_03 56:13

I think uh for me, these days of the week are based on routines in our job place, right? I think the reason Fridays are S tier is I think everyone's most positive on Fridays. We do more team activities, like we have lunch, we have more conversations, we're wrapping a project, whatever the case is. But I also think it's just like uh the environment every day brings. Thursdays, you're coaching, you're you're out, we're we're doing a lot of independent work. Wednesdays were I think Friday's just the pinnacle of like this work environment. You know, I'd say Fridays are S tier.

SPEAKER_01 56:44

It's an S tier, but I don't I it's not for any of those lazy. No one's lazy. How is it late? What do you mean? I'd love for you. Come in here with that like like soft mentality. Go in there and brush Friday.

SPEAKER_05 56:57

Who was yesterday? It was Monday, wasn't it? I was here till eight at night on Monday. Oh, don't start that shit. I I live.

SPEAKER_01 57:10

I was I was balls deep on some other shit, and I'm here, but I think I think for a lot of people, like it's Friday, Fry Yeah, right? Come in, I'll like eat donuts and shit and like be all I don't think we're saying that. There's a lot of people look at their Friday two. Honestly, if you can if you can make Friday a day, yeah, don't let yourself take a take a like any smidge off.

unknown 57:34

Whew.

SPEAKER_05 57:35

Yeah, but you can cook.

SPEAKER_01 57:36

You can motivate yourself with joy, you don't have to mo motivate yourself with punishment and be like I think that's so interesting because a lot of the things you're saying, like I love this. Yeah. But you can't. You can't take it. No, you can't. You can you gotta win is not a sometimes thing.

SPEAKER_05 57:56

You could still win with different attitudes. You could win with a no, there's winning and losing.

SPEAKER_01 58:01

There's no gap.

SPEAKER_05 58:03

Well, there are there are places in the middle.

SPEAKER_03 58:06

Speaking of the gap, the gap we have left is we have Saturday to rank now. Oh, what are you guys put Saturday?

SPEAKER_01 58:12

As a 37-year-old father of four. It's a F tier. Man, you had a chance to do that.

SPEAKER_05 58:19

You can wait to say that father of four was that's when you get to spend the rest of time with your kids, though. It should be S tier.

SPEAKER_01 58:25

That's why it's an F tier. F tier? I mean, I'll say this. Saturdays, when you're young and you're and you're and you're just you and your maybe your wife or your fiance or single or whatever, they're different. When you get the family dynamic, and this is what you sign up for, they're just different. And if you still relish in the days where you could just like pop into a bar at 11 a.m. with your buddy and just pound beers and watch sports all day, eat like a asshole till two, three o'clock in the morning, wake up not feel a thing on Sunday. If that's if that's what S tier Saturdays felt like for you, those are gone, baby. Like they're not getting those back ever, right? So, like, I love Saturdays because I do get to spend time with my family. I I take it back, but I I I I was joking mostly. Um But they're not the S tier they used to be, right? Like, and I'll get that back. You have when you have super young kids, you don't yeah, you don't you don't get to do much, right? Man, I think we got two kids in diapers, my my yeah, like you're you're running around at kids' events and stuff, you know. You're you're pretty much every family that has young children piles everything they can on Saturdays. You're going to like birthday parties and events and and all this shit. Um, it's just like no freedom anymore. It's definitely still A tier, but I'll give it an A. It's not like you can go golfing with your buddies on a Saturday Joe and have a day.

SPEAKER_03 59:48

I think it depends. I think Saturdays get lumped into a lot of stuff. You have to just go exactly what he said. Sometimes unwillingly, you have to go somewhere. Yeah, you're not wrong. I my Saturdays are probably very structured. It's Saturdays are for the boys, is where my heart is. Yeah, I work out every Saturday at like 7 a.m. and then I just, you know, whatever. I get some me time with my wife, some stuff that we don't get to do, and then I have to go do something probably that's yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:18

It doesn't even matter if it's a fun activity or not, just it just feels better. Like I could be like working on my house all day and it's still if it's something.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:24

Yeah, but tomorrow's Sunday, and then that's the day, then Monday's work. So like for me, Friday's the pinnacle of the week because it's like you have the thought of even though you're at work, I have the weekend, or I have some time that's outside of whatever you're doing. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:38

Just a thought process. Yeah, I don't get uh they call it the Sunday scaries or whatever. I haven't had those since I taught in the public school system. I like I there's I don't get any anxiety.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:47

Why the hell you come coasting in here on Mondays?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:50

Coasted? No words to coast your words. I put Monday as Say I'm the coaster pull up. No, I'm I'm not coasting. I'm getting my bearings about me. There's a different I used to have no, that's what you have to do. You gotta get focused for the week. You know what I mean? It's it's a different rhythm, the weekend versus the weekday.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

I think it's interesting that you're like I love Saturday because I don't get compensated for doing a bunch of work, is what you just said. I'm working on my house. I don't know what's paying you to do that shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:19

Well, I'm saving a lot of money doing that rather than having someone else do it. And plus, sometimes you don't always just have to work for compensation. Sometimes you can work for joy, sometimes you can work to help help someone else. Work for a beer. You work for a beer and a handshake sometimes. That's compensation. Yeah, but you don't always have to work for monetary compensation. Excuse me. I'll be more specific.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:38

Okay. So then that leads us into Sunday. Before you guys even say anything, that's the Lord's Day. I'm giving it an S tier on my list, but go ahead with Oh wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:46

How do you follow that? Man, what a trap you've laid here for us, Joe. Wow. You guys are gonna put it lower, or what are you gonna do? Uh well, Joe, I don't Gee, son of a bitch. I'm I'm kidding. We cut that part out.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:01

I just we can't leave that for the bunker. That's great. I love that. I like Sundays more than Saturdays because they're less chaotic and I can actually get in a rhythm. Like a lot of my life these days is like finding areas where I can have control. And it's not because I'm a control freak, it's because that chaos equals anxiety and like not knowing what you're gonna eat, not knowing where you're supposed to go next, running around, yeah, kids shitting on themselves, like you're showing up places. Like, there's it's Saturdays can become an complete and utter mess. Sundays, we know we like to get up, I'll make my wife and kids like breakfast, uh, depending on if they want to eat or if they just want to trash the house or whatever they're doing. Um, and then we typically try to just like get out of the house. Like we will, we're still like an insane family that we order most things to the house, so we don't have to like go through the rigmarole, but like we'll go to Costco as a family, or like we'll go to the store just to like get out. Um, because the winter, especially, you're just stuck inside. But that's a day where we'll like go to the pool and just sit there. And there's like no nothing but for me, like in the evenings, I'll get prepped for the week, right? I'll prep my schedule, I'll get back in the email, I'll answer Slack messages, I'll start like building up the momentum to come into Monday and absolutely slaughter it and meal prep if I need to, like, plan what we're gonna eat all week. Like, I get a lot of that done on Sunday. So I really enjoy a Sunday from that standpoint. I've also been I haven't had a drink since like December 19th. So like I'm not dealing with being hungover anymore. I'm not dealing with like a lot of the backlash of having too much fun on a Saturday. Um, life just changed a lot for me. So Sundays now take the cake over Saturday for me.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:33

The only thing that scares me about a Sunday is the possibility of it being hijacked, and that happens quite often because a Sunday, it's like, oh, this is my day of rest here, you know, we're gonna make some pasta, and then all of a sudden someone needs some shit. And it's like, oh no, I'll go help you, and then someone else needs some shit, and then it's 8 30 at night, and you're like, it's tomorrow's Monday, it's it's here already. Or like a Saturday, I don't even mind if a Saturday gets hijacked because it you got Sunday following it, but Sunday that's that last day before the week starts, and everyone wants to hijack the Sunday to protect your Sundays with everything you can. So Sundays that that it's dropping the ranking for you because you just get your Sundays hijacked. I kind of want to go to that shit. I kind of want to go to A tier. Well, sometimes you can't help it. Sometimes it's like it's like, oh, this is you ever heard of this word? It's wild word. It's crazy. Uh no. Yeah, but it's not I I'll I'll say no to like like minor stuff, but sometimes there's things you can't say no to, and then it's like, oh, here we go. Sunday's here.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:32

Yeah, Sunday. It's I think how you view your Thursdays is like Sunday is just the data. Full steam ahead for the week. Oh, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:42

Take your Sunday. Dude, put your foot on the gas and like lock in.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:46

Get some your week coast. Go grocery shopping, get some meal prepping done, make some some food maybe for the look at the counter, sit down, get your thoughts out of your head, maybe get a plan and a couple goals for the week, right? Plan the slightly above average podcast episodes for the next couple weeks. Right. During the fall, watch a little football. Yeah, football football Sundays are very different.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:07

During the spring, summer, maybe watch a little golf. That's a topic at around time. Yeah. It's a day, it's just a lazy bum day for you, huh? If you can, if you had a choice. Your Sundays just be a bum. Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:18

Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty active on Sundays, but like I have like my ideal routine for a Sunday is uh and we don't always get to do it, but you get up in the morning, you go down to the strip district, it's what time are we getting up? Like seven. Go down to La Prima, get some coffee. Okay. I can get behind that. Yeah, then we go grocery shopping. We go in like standard grocery or specialty for a big Sunday dinner. You gotta talk to Kristen. She makes the menu for the week. She knows exactly uh the only thing we'll go to Pen Mac for uh stuff for like pasta, but now we're talking. We'll go to like Giant Eagle for like regular stuff. Now we're talking. Then you come home, then you make homemade pasta, homemade sauce, meatballs, and you enjoy that around 5 30, 6 00. o'clock, then you watch whatever reoccurring shows coming on, and you smooth your way into the week. That's that's an ideal Sunday, and I get to have those sometimes. Sometimes they get hijacked. See, that's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:12

That's that's the that's the dream Sunday. Yeah. That's that that's if I could if I could dre like dream up a Sunday. And we do a lot of them. That's what I'm I do a lot of that shit. Get up, make the make the family I can't take my kids to a coffee shop, you know kids. Have some coffee kids. Why not? Someday. I'm not that kind of dad. There's parents that do it. Like good for you, but I'm not taking my kids to a coffee shop. I don't deserve that neither do my neither do the patrons. But like yeah I love that. Get up go if you plan like I love planning a great meal on a Sunday and then like executing on it later. Maybe some of the family comes over like in a perfect world when my kids are older and I'm talking like in three to four years from now because we're done having kids I want to be that like Sunday dinner doors always open I'm I'm going ape shit on the menu every single week everyone's you guys can come parents family neighbors whoever I'm spitting a pig or I'm making a a bucket of pasta that's the size of my truck right like come on over Sunday dinner doors always open like that's what my ideal Sunday would look like. I love I love that camaraderie aspect of it. That's why Sunday takes the bump for me on Saturdays now because Saturdays are just like chaos but Sundays you can get that rhythm. Yeah that consistency. Well that's all I have I guess the only shitty day we picked right was Wednesday and Tuesday Tuesday. Tuesday is the worst day on the week today's Tuesday. So with that being said uh let us know what your worst day of the week and also what uh streaming platform you guys hate the most if you want to get this podcast early or check out any of the exclusive after show make sure you're hitting up the Builder Bunker. Thank you once again First Form for making this all possible and we'll see you guys on next week's episode