Ep 10 Pigeon Holed Podcast - The Mandela Effect

Welcome to episode 10 of the Pigeon Holed Podcast! In this weeks episode we chat about conspiracies, the Mandela effect, misremembering movie quotes, brains, sleeping, hatred of coffee, the origins of cold Turkey, some voice notes, combating homesickness, murderous cats and much more.

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SPEAKER_03 0:00

Hello, my name is Tate Middleton and welcome to the Pigeon Hole Podcast.

SPEAKER_05 0:03

I am David Hughes. I don't really talk like that. Um, he does. He's just putting it on. Put on the English accent. I got accused of that once when I was in America.

SPEAKER_03 0:10

Oh really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 0:11

This guy was like, is that accent even real? How how would I keep it up for this long?

SPEAKER_03 0:18

I mean, there's people who genuinely think all COVID and stuff was uh played as you know, a worldwide conspiracy, and you're just like, fair play if you if you if you really think that.

SPEAKER_05 0:30

I do love conspiracy theorists, not theories. Actually, the theories can be quite fun, but I do love conspiracy theorists, the people who are like just fucking everything is uh because I think how exhausting it must be for one thing, if you think the government lies to you about everything, yeah, and that every like the flat earth thing, flat earth is absolutely fucking bonkers, it's so fun, it's in it's crazy. Do you know what my favorite one is though? Have you heard of um uh the Mandela effect? Do you know what that is?

SPEAKER_03 0:58

I've heard of it, I couldn't tell you what it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:00

So it's people who think that the I get I think the crux of it is, and people can correct me, they probably will. I think the crux of it is the the world ended, and then it sort of merged with another timeline or whatever, like a parallel thing. And so it's called the Mandela effect because uh or the the the thing is that people misremember things or they they go like no no it wasn't that way before, but now I'm being told that it is, and the biggest one is people remembering uh Nelson Mandela being um dying in in prison. He was he was he died in when he was incarcerated, but he died years after he got out of jail, and people are like no no he died, I'm sure he fucking died in prison, but it's quite literally the the reason I love it so much is because it's like having an ego so big that you go, There's no fucking way I'm wrong about this. There must be something else. Actually, I reckon the world ended. That's why I've got this, I've got this wrong. This thing, there's so many of them. You can look them up on you on YouTube, um, but there's so many different ones. There's like uh logos and company. I think one of them is the Monopoly Man having a monocle or not having a monocle, but stuff like that. And if you're like me, you're probably thinking now, like, well, does he have one or doesn't he? But if I say, and I can't remember either, I don't know if he's got one or not, but if I say, no, no, he doesn't have one, and you go, nah, I remember him having one, but I'm wrong. Like, that's the end of it. But for these people, it's like this whole fucking thing, it's crazy. It's so funny.

SPEAKER_03 2:24

Yeah, that I I feel like there was some something to do with like the guy on the Pringles can or something.

SPEAKER_05 2:30

As well. I'm not sure. There was a big one called again, this is an American thing though, but uh Bernstein Bears or something. Apparently, that's big either a cartoon or a book or something that everyone remembers, and then they went, Oh wait, it's spelt differently.

SPEAKER_03 2:43

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:43

I'm like, Yeah, but it could have been reprinted a few different like different but if it's if it's like an old story or whatever, it could have been reprinted a whole bunch of different times by different publishing houses, and you know, it it there's many reasons why it might be, it might have just been uh spelt differently in a different country or something, yeah. Like you've no idea, but anyway, I do find people who are like so into that stuff are very specific people, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

True, yeah, there's and they're always have shit lives for the most part. There's like the king of them, which has like Alex uh oh Alex Jones, Jones and stuff like that who have done quite well, but that's when it gets kind of a bit scary, I suppose, because some of the ones that he called out came true, didn't they?

SPEAKER_05 3:26

There's lots of gay frogs or something, something like that, yeah. But there were some things, but then he did unspeakable shit. Like I think at one point he said that I forget what it was, but it was like a mass shooting, like a Sandy Hook or whatever it was. Was it that one? Yeah, it was like a was that the school Sandy Hook was a school, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 3:40

He said they're all paid actors, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:42

Yeah, and it's like, dude, even if you're like absolutely convinced that you're correct about that, imagine have a bit of like humility to think you might be wrong, and if you are wrong, what you're saying about those children who died, like their families are going, this kind of thing's we're just making this shit up. Like I've made up my fucking son being killed, what he never existed in the first place. That's insane behavior, man. It's insane, and also too.

SPEAKER_03 4:07

I don't know how many actors and actors or you probably met more than me. They love talking about the work that they've done. They do, don't they? Yeah, it'd be on your IMDb. Yeah, it would be on your IMDB, wouldn't it?

SPEAKER_05 4:18

It would, yeah, definitely. Yeah, oh, I don't know. I don't know. I th I think as well, most people who are into conspiracies need it because they want to feel like they know more than you do. Yeah, they're just weird people, that's where they add value, I think. They go like, ah, everyone's an idiot, but I know that the world is flat. You know, all right, well, fucking have at it, then I suppose.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

That is true. The uh in saying that though, about the Mandela effect and whatnot, a lot of people do it with um quotes from films, become like tonic and they're rot they're they're that's one of the big ones, too.

SPEAKER_05 4:50

Apparently, and as you know, Star Wars. I never watched Star Wars until like a month ago. Yes. Um, and he he says, No, I'm your father, but everyone's like no no, it's it's Luke, I am your father. Yeah, Luke, I am your father. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, did you ever think of just asking the actors? Yeah, yeah, just go, or the script writers and go, can we have a look at the script? And go, oh no, it says here, no, I'm your father. And um because Luke says, You killed my father, I think, and then he goes, No, I am your father. Yeah, that would be that makes more sense than him just going, Luke, I am your father.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

All right, champ. Um, also ET phone home. Okay, that's a okay. So, what's the real thing? Uh, I I'm not sure, but it's close to he sends a text or yeah, something like that. E.T. Uber. Yeah, I don't know. But it's i I think it's something like super close, obviously. Yeah, but it's not it, it's everyone uh you know those YouTube dudes who like go through films and you know, go like that sort of stuff. Yeah, that was a big one. I think it was the two, two, two of the biggest ones. Uh everyone's got a bar wasn't the ET one, yeah. E.T. Bone Home, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 5:54

But then I don't know. Uh I just I think it's mental that that's the the thing that they go for. They go like, Well, there's no way I I misheard it when I watched E.T. in 1985 or whatever it was. So it must be the case that the world ended. I think the other other thing actually was that Hadron Collider thing. I think that the the idea is that that ended the world. Oh, or that was that that like maybe made parallel, like opened some fucking worm. I don't know. Don't scream at me. I don't know shit, I don't care. I'll be quite honest with you. I don't give a fuck about these things. I do find it interesting that people make it their whole personality, though. That's funny to me.

SPEAKER_03 6:31

It is very strange. Uh or how people can make it into a job.

SPEAKER_05 6:36

Yeah, yeah. There's actually an amazing YouTube channel called the Wi-Files. I don't know if you've ever heard of this. I forget what his name is. Um, but and he's got this little obnoxious fish with him. I don't know why that's a thing. But anyway, I feel like it's kind of made for people like me who aren't smart enough to know every little detail about all like moon landings, for example. So he'll play devil's advocate and he'll go, here's why um people think that the the moon landings are fake, and it'll be a very sort of in-depth look at it, and he'll give you all of these things like well, you think about it, this is fucks, losing the telemetry data, and you know, we can't do it now. Why haven't we been back on this stuff? But then he'll at the end of it, he'll break down all the reasons why it probably did happen, like it probably is a real fucking thing. Yeah, I mean that's good channel, it's really good channel.

SPEAKER_03 7:21

What is it?

SPEAKER_05 7:21

The Wi-Fi, the Wi-Fi, yeah. You massive YouTube channel, and I think he does a like a weekly podcast as well now.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

Hmm. It's must so much effort must go into that. Yeah, like we there's let's be honest, there's not a crazy amount of effort that's gonna be. I just came from a gig. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:36

I was like, I'm in the city anyway. Do you want to do you wanna record?

SPEAKER_03 7:39

Yeah, and that's all we that's how we do it. It probably tells, but also at the same time, I think I I enjoy flexing my muscle of like trying to come up with something on the spot. Yeah, like anything to talk, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We there's no scripts, we yeah, we just better not be if this is what we're coming up with. Yeah, true. It's a professional writer, yeah. Um but uh how was the gig?

SPEAKER_05 8:02

It was good, it was good. There was this uh new open mic night at the comedy lounge, which it'd be interesting to see how how that goes, like if it stays. Yeah, because typically they haven't really lasted too long. I think because comedy lounge is like obviously where you go to see the best acts, and then I think when they try and put an open mic on, it kind of falls a little bit because people have expectations. But who knows, there was a lot of people in tonight. Um, so it's pretty good. And I think it's it was just slightly better curated. You had people like Andrew Wolfe and John Pinder on as well.

SPEAKER_03 8:35

Yeah, that's so hard, like one of the best over mic in Australia.

SPEAKER_05 8:39

Yeah, exactly. Two of the best acts in Australia, both on tonight, yeah, both doing I think they did seven minutes.

SPEAKER_03 8:44

Yeah, I was gonna say five, five's pretty short for those guys.

SPEAKER_05 8:48

Five would be a lot easier though. Like I did ten. I did ten I did like probably seventy percent. It would have been almost a hundred percent new for that club. Yeah, but I wouldn't have done apart from my opening joke, I wouldn't have done anything that I've done in there before. But the rest of it is like I've done it at open my other open mics, I've been trying it, but yeah, I don't really have the balls to go out and do like all new.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

Especially when you got a good crowd and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05 9:17

When you got a good crowd, and then they put you last as well, and you kind of feel like I want this this show to work like long term, yeah. So I don't want everyone to walk away going, Oh last dude fucking sucked.

SPEAKER_03 9:26

Yeah, true. They always say that it's like the what the opening act, middle act, and sort of like last act, I guess are the most important, and everything else is sort of like sort of filler, because it's just how we remember things, yeah. As we're just talking about forgetting shit.

SPEAKER_05 9:44

MC as well, obviously.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

Yeah, MC in my mind is the most important.

SPEAKER_05 9:48

Yeah, same. And that was Jill, and she obviously just smashes. Um, that was good. What did you do today?

SPEAKER_03 9:55

Uh a couple of podcasts, myself, uh the old Tate Talks podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pulling that out of retirement. Um other than that, not a whole lot, man.

SPEAKER_05 10:05

It's been a miserable day, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 10:06

It has been absolutely pissing better.

SPEAKER_05 10:09

I've been waiting for you to complain though, because what you usually do is complain about the heat. And I thought, if this cunt complains about it raining just once, I'm gonna smack him over the back of the head with something.

SPEAKER_03 10:17

No, I like the rain. I like the brother. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:20

Yeah. Um I don't mind. I like I like the rain, but I don't I just a couple of days of it is fine. After that, I'm like, you can fuck off now. I'm not in England. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:31

My my biggest issue with the rain and heavy wind and stuff these days, because I'm a child and I need like at night, I've got to have something to listen to.

SPEAKER_05 10:41

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:41

So like instead of white noise, I'll just chuck on like wind sounds or something like that. Or rain.

SPEAKER_05 10:46

But if it's raining and shit, why don't you just open a window?

SPEAKER_03 10:48

Well, you can't really hear shit here. Because obviously we're on the bottom of a X amount of um, but it actually makes me super tired. Uh it rains. My brain now is trained to be like, oh rain. And I start to be like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:02

I saw um uh who was it? Oh, it was it was Shane Gillis was talking about being um he was he was in a hotel somewhere, and it was like him, his partner, and then like one of her friends or something, and he was uh he like we wanted to have a nap, so he put on the sounds of rain. He put on because he goes, That's how I sleep. I can only sleep to rain sounds, and then yeah, but let's do it. But his uh his partner's friend thought that it was applause. And she and he goes, and now I can't listen to rain sounds without thinking it sounds just like applause. So she thought for for a while, like Shane Gillis can only sleep if he listens to applause.

SPEAKER_03 11:40

That is the most that is craziest thing. That is fucking insane.

SPEAKER_05 11:43

Imagine if that was true. Yeah, imagine if that was your thing. Oh, I can only listen to fucking standing ovations. Yeah, that's how I fall asleep.

SPEAKER_03 11:50

That is super funny, actually. But then those little things do when someone says, Oh, have you noticed that it sounds like that, or what and you're just like, you know, when you see on there'll be something that pops up all the time, and it will be like your brain will like whatever you read first, your brain will say that's the sound, and it will be like brainstorm and like something else, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, what the f and you can close your eyes and you get like one or the other, and then you look at it and you're like, How does that work? Yeah, it's so weird. Yeah, or the dress, remember the dress? I remember the dress, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 12:25

That's that was the big one because that got everyone fucking up in arms because it was like, what was it, golden something or brown? And I don't know. Well, that's the point, isn't it? It was different for everyone, but yeah, that that one that you just said though, the one that goes and it's like brainstorm and then like cabbage fire or whatever the fuck it is. You're just like, yeah, I at first I thought there's no way that I thought they would it was just a coincidence that I was thinking of the thing that it was saying, and then I was like, oh wow, that's actually a real thing. That's how stupid I am. It's it is um yeah, that was fucking bonkers.

SPEAKER_03 12:55

Brain's too powerful.

SPEAKER_05 12:56

Mine isn't mine's like mine's like the lowest setting on Mario Kart, it's like 50cc or whatever. It's it's nothing happening.

SPEAKER_03 13:04

What do you think of um hypnotism?

SPEAKER_05 13:07

Uh look, I've never never been hypnotized before, and when somebody tells me that they did it and it worked, I just think weak fool. Yeah, I don't know. Do you believe in it? Like, do you think it's a thing? Do you think you could be hypnotised? Are you gonna tell me you have been?

SPEAKER_03 13:21

I don't think so because I'm I I f as the same as you, I think I go like now you're weak. Yeah, so I'd I'd absolutely power through it. Hannah Sainty remember she was chatting about yeah, she was saying that she got hypnotised and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 13:34

She's a fucking smart girl too.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

I I feel like you gotta just let it. I can't relax in general. Like it takes me a fair bit to sleep. I'm not one of those people who go to bed, lie down, and I'm out within two minutes. I uh how the fuck does that happen?

SPEAKER_05 13:53

Well, how does it not happen given how much you've traveled?

SPEAKER_03 13:55

I learned to sleep in like the most sounds, it's the screams in here.

SPEAKER_05 14:00

But I just mean like I I can sleep on anything anywhere. I mean, probably okay, I used to be able to, I don't think I could sleep anywhere now, but certainly in my own bed, like comfortable, I can just go to bed and I'll be asleep. It drives my wife nuts, but I'll be asleep in like minutes.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 14:15

Minutes is a stretch, actually. Like last night, if I if we were talking, if we were discussing and planning and stuff, like is in you and I, but um, I was talking to someone else and then I woke up in this morning and had so much shit on my phone because I went to sleep at like half seven.

SPEAKER_04 14:30

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 14:31

Fell asleep at half seven, went to bed at half seven, fell asleep at half seven, and that was me until the morning.

SPEAKER_03 14:36

What time do you get up?

SPEAKER_05 14:37

About seven.

SPEAKER_03 14:38

Fuck, so like eleven and a half, twelve hours sleep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:42

But I also think that I'm not I'm I don't think I'm normal in that regard either. That's crazy. Some of you cunts can survive on like four hours or five hours. Like we know someone, a room runner, Xavier, who survives on fucking six minutes a week. I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah, it is pretty mental.

SPEAKER_03 14:58

It is pretty impressive how much he can get done.

SPEAKER_05 15:00

I I have to I would say for me it's between seven and nine is like that's where we're good. But you know, people go like oh, if I oversleep, I feel like shit. If I oversleep, I feel amazing.

SPEAKER_03 15:13

Yeah, I just I don't know how many hours I could I reckon I could function pretty well off about six. I'd be tired.

SPEAKER_05 15:22

Yeah. Yeah, I'd be tired with six.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Um I think one of my biggest things, because I've never drank coffee.

SPEAKER_05 15:27

Yeah. Same. I've never even tasted it.

SPEAKER_03 15:30

And it's one of the I I feel like it smells like shit. Yeah, it's not a I I'm not a big fan.

SPEAKER_05 15:35

Yeah, I've just like I've never taken a sip of coffee because it smells so fucking bad. And people will say to me, How would you know unless you try it? I'm like, uh the same reason I've never bitten into dog poo before, but it smells so bad. I know I'm not gonna be in for a good time. Coffee smells fucking vile to me.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

It is a very like if you're a coffee drinker, they seem to love it. And if they if you don't, you just like even if you were like, hey, here's coffee flavoured. Oh no, no, coffee flavoured, no, just as bad.

SPEAKER_05 16:05

Yeah, coffee flavoured fucking ice cream and uh no no fuck that. No, sorry, I interrupted you. What was your thing there? Um you don't drink coffee.

SPEAKER_03 16:12

Well, I think not drinking coffee has uh for me allowed me to like wake up with a pretty like all right, it's go time.

SPEAKER_05 16:20

Yeah, yeah. That's that's probably a yeah, I'd say that was a real a real thing for a lot of people because they I think they rely on it and then it becomes fucked. Well, it's it's a stimulant for sure that they you know they use it as a stimulant, but I think it's also the the routine of it, yeah you know, like that's the thing that you do, and I'm guilty of it when I go to the gym. I take pre-workout a lot of the times. I probably don't need to.

SPEAKER_03 16:40

So pre-workout, does that have caffeine in it? Yeah, a lot of it. Yeah, see, I I I must have minimal caffeine, like these, like even soft drinks and stuff, yeah, or soda, as you say overseas. Uh that's I don't pop for the UK.

SPEAKER_05 16:56

I fizzy drink. I don't have any caffeine in anything else other than in the in pre-workout.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:02

But and this is this is quite funny. I during lockdown, we obviously the gym shut. I didn't realise that I'd built up this caffeine addiction because I was just drinking it and then training, and I was like, well, that's just a normal thing. And then a few days into no training at all, maybe about three days, and I started getting headaches. And I remember talking to my wife about it, and she was like, I think that's a caffeine headache. You because you haven't had any caffeine for like a few days now. I reckon that's what it is, and sure enough, she's right, because if I have some caffeine, it goes away. It's not anymore. I've I've I've weaned my way off it, but I used to like double scoop pre-workout. Oh, that would be like 250, 260 uh milligrams, micrograms. One of those of caffeine too much, too much.

SPEAKER_03 17:45

How many, do you reckon would do you know how many shots of coffee that would equate to?

SPEAKER_05 17:49

No, no, someone told me once a while ago, it's like decryptam has six or seven of them. Oh shit, yeah, yeah. So that's when I was like, oh well, let's fucking stop that then.

SPEAKER_03 17:58

Yeah, I've heard that caffeine addiction is one of the worst.

SPEAKER_05 18:02

Well, it's certainly like I was getting proper headaches because I was like, why? I'm drinking water, I'm doing this, I'm doing that, and I was exercising too. I was just going out to like the beach and stuff and like running. But I was like, I was feeling like shit, and I was like, why do I feel so bad? And I don't suffer from headaches. Like generally speaking, I'm quite lucky, I don't really get sick very often. Neither do I and then that started happening, and then we worked out pretty quickly. It was it was a caffeine thing.

SPEAKER_03 18:24

So you had caffeine and you were good?

SPEAKER_05 18:26

No, I just stayed off it.

SPEAKER_03 18:27

Ah, cold turkey.

SPEAKER_05 18:28

Yeah, because I was like, I'm three, I was I remember looking it up, I was like about three or four days off it anyway, and I was like, Do I just have some or do I ride it out for another week and then I'm I'm fine? Which I think is pretty much what happened.

SPEAKER_03 18:43

But you now you just take a lot less when you're I take way less.

SPEAKER_05 18:47

I have like half a scoop now.

SPEAKER_03 18:48

Oh really?

SPEAKER_05 18:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:51

The only thing I could think of like when I said cold turkey is why why is it called cold turkey? Do you know?

SPEAKER_05 18:56

Cold turkey I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

Yeah, like ha why is that the the the word for like getting off something? I've had cold turkey heaps of times, it's delicious. Sandwiches and everything.

SPEAKER_05 19:08

Cold turkey. Quit it you quit something cold turkey. I have to know because I only sure it is.

SPEAKER_03 19:15

Um we've got a few um things as well. Some of them. Do you want to go to the first one? Yeah, we can. Um you've sent it through because your phone's worked.

SPEAKER_05 19:27

I sent one. I I only had the had the one. This is from uh Lacey in Texas.

SPEAKER_03 19:33

Lacey in Texas. Thank you so much for your time.

SPEAKER_01 19:37

Hey guys, it's Lacey from Texas. Love the show. David David, I think, is the funniest person in the world. Lots of funny people. David is by far the funniest, and so thank you, Lacey.

SPEAKER_03 19:49

That's been fantastic for your time.

SPEAKER_01 19:52

Just wanted to call and say hi. I don't really have a question, but I was just thinking it um it might be a good idea for Tay to get his feet amputated or like a toes at the very least, or I don't maybe I'll just I'll get my eyes amputated. Wow. Who knows? Who knows? But anyway, thanks. Bye.

SPEAKER_05 20:12

Brutal. Brutal. I've never I don't know why I've never heard of her before. She sounds lovely.

SPEAKER_03 20:17

She sounds cute. Um, also just you know she's beautiful. The phrase I've never met her before. She's beautiful.

SPEAKER_05 20:25

The phrase cold turkey to describe abruptly stopping a habit, especially drug addiction, is thought to have multiple potential origins, but its exact derivation is debated. One theory suggests it refers to the goosebumps uh and clammy cold skin that you experience during withdrawals. That might be it. Another theory links to the earlier phrase talk turkey, meaning to speak bluntly. I've never heard a talk turkey before.

SPEAKER_03 20:48

That's fucking it's what Lacey was doing. Talking turkey.

SPEAKER_05 20:52

She was talking sense. I mean, she said I'm the funniest person on the planet. Um what's the one that you've got?

SPEAKER_03 20:57

Uh um, sorry, reeling from Lacey's uh I've actually got by the way, folks, he's wearing socks, so we are all good today. It is cold. Um here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go. We're doubled up. This person sent something already to us.

SPEAKER_00 21:19

Hey, Queves, Chris from South Africa, yeah? What's your thoughts on Israel-Palestine? Just kidding. Do you heathens enjoy Vegemite? If yes, what's it like being born without taste buds?

SPEAKER_05 21:30

Thank you, Chris Picello. So Vegemite, go. Where are you with Vegemite?

SPEAKER_03 21:35

I don't mind it, but it has to be very, very, very lightly spread. You should be able to see the butter between it. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_05 21:44

Yeah, I've heard, I've heard thin is the way. Very thin.

SPEAKER_03 21:48

Thin, thin. Yeah. A dusting.

SPEAKER_05 21:51

I have only given it to my son before on toast, like when he was really young, and he didn't mind it at all. He won't touch it now, but he didn't. Mind it at all, and I would do that. I was so so thin, but I don't like butter, so I didn't put butter on his toes because I project. Yeah, so I was just for the vegetable, but nobody liked it. This is the thing, and then I remember going like oh, this is disgusting. But then I tried a crut the one of the crusts of his before, and I was like, It's actually not that bad, it's not that bad. I can imagine if it was fucking lathered on, it would be intolerable. I but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:25

I honestly think there should be a test for children when they're around about 10 years old. You give them a thing of butter, you get some toast and some vegemite, and you go, show us how you put vegemite on this toast. For children. Yeah, yeah. Why children? And then if they put too much on, if it's thick like Nutella, right? We ship them off to an island. Not island and island.

SPEAKER_05 22:51

But they're they're kids though.

SPEAKER_03 22:53

They've clearly sociopaths, psychopaths. There's clearly something not right in here.

SPEAKER_05 22:58

We get rid of them. What about Nutella? Would you put Nutella on toast?

SPEAKER_03 23:03

Uh I have in the past, but I can't remember the last time I even had it.

SPEAKER_05 23:06

I can't remember the last time I had Nutella, but the reason is I know when you had it.

SPEAKER_03 23:09

Remember you had that fucking giant pretzel?

SPEAKER_05 23:11

Oh my god. That was here, wasn't it? Yeah. It's not too far from here. We went out after a gig once, and you had what pretzel did you have? You had a savory one, didn't you?

SPEAKER_03 23:20

Yeah, I had the fucking peanut butter and cheeses. Yeah, it was good, but it was the fucking thickest thing in the world. Like I can't fucking do peanut butter. That was too much.

SPEAKER_05 23:29

That was like uh that Nutella one though, that was like, I reckon, a jar of Nutella in that pretzel. That's crazy. It was fucking enormous.

SPEAKER_03 23:36

I think the lady liked you.

SPEAKER_05 23:37

But the other reason, though, with Nutella was that I don't like we don't have it in the house, is because I'll just attack it with a spoon every now and again. Yeah, I won't put it on anything because it's chocolate. I don't feel like it belongs on anything. I don't I like people put it on pancakes and stuff like that. Pancakes are good. Fuck that.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

Pancakes are very good with it, actually.

SPEAKER_05 23:57

That pretzel was that should be illegal. That was horrible. Horrible in a good I I don't know if you remember this. I remember telling you afterwards, I didn't eat for more than 24 hours after we had that pretzel.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:08

I didn't eat till way more than I was probably about 35, 36 hours before I was able to eat anything.

SPEAKER_03 24:14

The amount of sugar, because you wouldn't eat that much sugar in general, would you?

SPEAKER_05 24:17

Not like that. That was crazy. That was a I felt like that was a jar of fucking Nutella on that thing. And I remember we like as you opened the box and some of the Nutella was spread on the inside. I was just scraping out and eating it. Yeah, it was that was uh It was awful. It was thick. I mean it was phenomenal, by the way, but it was awful.

SPEAKER_03 24:35

The peanut butter one was no good.

SPEAKER_05 24:37

I can't do peanut butter again.

SPEAKER_03 24:38

I definitely wouldn't have that again.

SPEAKER_05 24:39

We're back.

SPEAKER_03 24:40

Um I am too. I am uh you said we. I thought we have a we do have another one. I'm sure we have another one.

SPEAKER_05 24:47

Oh, can you hear that? I don't know if the microphone's gonna pick that up if the microphone's gonna pick that up. My stomach was just rumbling. Oh, okay. I don't know if it's because we've been talking about pretzels or if I'm just I'm just hungry.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Um here's one. I think I haven't listened to this one, and there's multiple, so hang on.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

Hey lads, it's Tom from the UK here. I've been loving the podcast. My question for you guys is uh, how did you deal with homesickness while you're away for such long periods of time?

SPEAKER_03 25:15

Did we touch on this recently? I think we did actually, but thank you for it.

SPEAKER_05 25:18

Did we do it on here? Because I remember talking to you about it, but did we talk about it on here?

SPEAKER_03 25:22

I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 25:23

I can't remember. But we did how do you what's what's your thing?

SPEAKER_03 25:27

I think I just seemed to go away for the perfect amount of time. Yeah. I think what is that? Well, earlier days it was probably like I could get about a year-ish. I think the longest I was out of Australia was 18 months. Yeah. But I sort of traveled my way home. So it was one of those ones where like I knew that I was coming slowly back. I was making my way to Australia.

SPEAKER_05 25:50

Um is it some is there a thing that like triggers you in regards to feeling homeless? Is there like a because obviously you're you're a huge I think I did.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

Well, it's what I it's the heroin addiction.

SPEAKER_05 26:04

All right, with the homesickness, I thought I said homesickness, but anyway, is that because you're a big fucking football fan, for example, things like that. Is it like not being able to watch games or go to games? I suppose you can still watch them.

SPEAKER_03 26:14

Um, I think now that I'm like that probably South America. I remember it was the first time when I'd gone out of Australia, yeah, but it was also the longest I'd been away and the footy season was on, and I remember being like, ah fuck, like missing this, yeah, missing that, and I was younger. But the biggest one I think for me now is because my like I always say my core group of friends that I grew up with that I've known since primary school or elementary school, um, as you weirdos call it, that they're all doing their own thing now.

SPEAKER_05 26:47

They've all got the weirdos, I love you guys the most. Go on.

SPEAKER_03 26:50

We've got like sorry, they have their own families.

SPEAKER_05 26:54

Yeah, it's very hard and sort of like and are they displaced as well now, or are they still where you grew up?

SPEAKER_03 26:59

No, no, majority of them are still like like within, you know, let's say 20 kilometers from where that's quite unique, I would say. Yeah, they're yeah, they they've definitely uh they're all also a lot of my friends weirdly hit the jackpot with like one serious girlfriend are now like married with kids.

SPEAKER_05 27:17

Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

So they're they they like to settle, is what I'm saying. Anyway, um, but there's no FOMO, fear of missing out. It's just like everything's sort of been done now. So definitely older now that like I know that I'm not missing out on anything, right? But younger, you'd be like, oh 21st or something like that. You'd be like, oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:38

What about like comforts and things then? What about just like the because I mean, obviously, you like for example, you come over here and then you'll be staying in like different places and stuff. Is there a part of you that misses having, you know, like your own space that's just that's just you, you know? Do you know what I mean? Like you don't have to worry about packing up and any of that.

SPEAKER_03 27:55

Yeah, well that it gets old living out of like uh suitcases and stuff sometimes when I'm staying at people on on people's couches. Um but the as long as I'm doing like stand-up or you know, yeah, it makes sense. It's like sort of it's sort of like this is work, yeah. Yes, definitely. I think that's big. But other than that, I think yeah, just staying in a place for the right amount of time. There's some some people just go like I I can't go home, and you're like, why? They're like, Oh, you know, just I said to everyone that I was coming over here for two years, and you're like, Oh, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 28:34

What?

SPEAKER_03 28:35

Who gives a fuck?

SPEAKER_05 28:36

I don't think I've ever met anyone like that.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

Yeah, I've met multiple people.

SPEAKER_05 28:39

I've met people who have like gone, or I know people who have like gone away, people who wanted to come over here, and like I'm gonna do a year and then a second year, and then I'll probably go to you know, so and so a month or two in, they just go home. Yeah, it's not always the same reasons as well, like sometimes it's you know, finances or whatever, or something happens back home. But a lot of time it's just like I just I don't want to be away from home for for this much. So I'm like, I respect that. Yeah, I do respect it because don't do it for the sake of doing it. That's kind of ridiculous, I think. Yeah, you know, it's in like don't don't travel, don't relocate or whatever, go don't go and move to a new country and then make yourself do it and you're not enjoying it. You're just worried that people are gonna be like, oh, you couldn't hack it in the you know what I mean? That's a big one, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:20

I met a girl in a hostel, it was it the generator hostel in Russell Square, I think in London. Um and she'd been away for uh four weeks. And we were chatting in the hostel and uh Ozzy Bird from Adelaide, and I was like, What have you been doing? She was like, Oh, two year work visa, blah blah blah blah. And she's like, I'm going home next week. And I'm like, Oh, sweet. How long have you been here for? You know, standard question. She was like, Four weeks.

SPEAKER_05 29:50

And I was like, She's just homesick.

SPEAKER_03 29:52

Huh? And she was like, Yeah, four weeks. I'm like, that okay, and she was like, How long have you been away for? And I'm like, think of the time it might have been like ten months or something. Yeah, um, and it was just normal. I was just working and this and that. She I remember she was working at a host uh a hotel, um, and I was like, just not enjoying it. And she was like, Yeah, I just I tried. I'm happy that I came over. I've seen some stuff. She's like, I went to Paris last week, blah blah blah. But she's like, I just realized that it's something I don't want to do, and I'm I'm sort of happy to go back. And I'll find good for her.

SPEAKER_05 30:25

Fair enough. Good for her. I I genuinely respect that. I think people going away and then forcing themselves to stay away because they want to look good, like to like their mates or whatever, or their family back home. You're wasting your time, you're not alone, you're not alive for long. Just fucking do your thing and have fun with it.

SPEAKER_03 30:41

Just being miserable in another country. Actually, I will say one thing that made me move back, and probably not homesick, but move back to Australia. Yeah, yeah. So when I was living in Canada last, the weather's so shit in Vancouver and it rains all the time. Yeah, big one. And I was just like, I was working landscaping, like landscape gardening, is it like labouring and just getting drenched every day. Like to get up in the morning and put your shoes on or your boots and they're wet from the day before, and the first thing your feet are wet, it just like drives you insane. It drove me insane anyway. Yeah, no, yeah, I'm yeah, I'm with you. Yeah, so I I pretty much it's pretty quick in Canada to be like, I think I'm done.

SPEAKER_05 31:27

I think weather's one of the reasons that I've stayed away from England. Like, since having a a a son, like uh like when when Oscar was like really young, Kate and I did think about going or like us moving to England, me moving back to England just for a bit. I think it was like a year or two years we were thinking about, and then I had to explain to her. It was mostly her idea. It was for my career, but it was mostly like she was like, Well, let's just do it and see, because I've you know it's quite exciting. And I was like, I promise you, like two weeks in, you're gonna regret every fucking with every bit of you, you're gonna be like, Why the fuck have we moved here? Because when you have it, when you have a kid, it's like living in a place like this, you can go out most of the time. Summer, winter, it doesn't matter. You can always be doing stuff like over there, it's miserable as shit. Fucking the winter's terrible, the winter is just unmanaged. And I remember thinking, what would I do with a baby? He was like one at the time. It's like, what would I do with a baby when it's just raining and cold, like constantly?

SPEAKER_03 32:20

That is a big one, obviously.

SPEAKER_05 32:21

Like you can go to parks, you can go to national parks, you can go to the beach, you can do fucking so much stuff.

SPEAKER_03 32:26

And in the UK, it still rains in summer, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 32:29

Yeah, like every time the ashes trade off, it's it's beautiful and green, it's gorgeous over there, but there's a reason for it. Yeah, same with like Ireland, it's so lush and gorgeous. Like, yeah, it rains like 90% of the time.

SPEAKER_03 32:41

That is crazy. I couldn't imagine like I'm exaggerating, obviously, it doesn't, but you get my well, I think Ireland rains over 200 times a year.

SPEAKER_05 32:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:51

365 days a year. That's we're not getting we're not getting that in Australia.

SPEAKER_05 32:56

No, not in 10 years. No, it's fucking brutal. It's been raining today, and it's been raining a lot, but then that's just comparative. Like it's obviously everything is relative, and now like for me, a day of rain where it's been like on and off since what about nine o'clock this morning. I'm like, this is crazy. It's like, but mate, back home is just it would be like this all day, harder than this all day for weeks on end.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

I reckon it though, with the UK at least, it it definitely has helped with your ability to talk. So isn't like banter, I hate that fucking word. Yeah, you guys are always like inside, you gotta talk to each other, you gotta like, you know, there's a lot of like whereas in Australia it's like, ah, I just went for a walk by myself, or I went surfing or this or that, or fucking whatever. There seems to be a bit more outside doing shit and you're by yourself a little bit more. Yeah, whereas you cooped up with other people all day, and then obviously the pub culture because the weather's fucked, you go to the pub, and then when the weather's really nice, we go to the pub and we sit outside it.

SPEAKER_05 34:04

You take your shirts off, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:05

Yeah, it always got me when uh working in Surrey, and it was like 20. Tiny bit of sun, though. And Pierce is like, Is that the sun out? And they take the shirts off, and you're like, This is a fancy pub, like this is like fine dining, and you people have your shirts off outside. Like, get the fuck out of here. Yeah, it's mad. It is, yeah. The weather, I guess. So to answer your question, Tom, for me, um, probably just sticking to the right amount of time.

SPEAKER_05 34:33

What was the question? How do you manage it?

SPEAKER_03 34:35

How do you manage homesickness? Which is it's like I don't know. I'd I I think I've got lucky.

SPEAKER_05 34:40

Sorry, Tom, I was listening.

SPEAKER_03 34:42

I think I've got also lucky that I've always made friends very quickly overseas. Yeah, and when you have friends and you're going like, I'm now substituting my friendship group from back home to this one. And also, as we've spoken about, when you meet people who are fellow travelers, yeah, for the most part, you seem to like connect very quickly.

SPEAKER_05 35:02

Um also the thing that you're doing, because you're away in a new place, it's just by its very nature, it's more exciting than being at home. I think that was always the thing. Like I didn't have it much, but I do remember having it in Adelaide once. It was in a hostel. Kevin and I had been driving around the country at that point, and then we had finished doing that. We got to Adelaide and we were we were kind of like just working out what to do next. Yeah, so I genuinely didn't know what to do next. And I remember having this wave of homesickness like I've never had before. It wasn't Christmas, so this didn't make sense. Christmas, I understand, because it's too hot here, but I remember to the point where I felt like I just needed to like stay in bed all day. It was like it felt like an actual sickness almost. Um, and I I to this day I don't really know why I got it, but I do remember snapping out of it and going, you know, you could just go home. And I was just like, fuck that, I'm not going home. That's crazy. But it's reminding yourself that you can, you can just get on a plane, you'll be home in less than a day.

SPEAKER_03 35:59

That's uh we've spoken about this before. I always knew if I had enough money for a flight back home, I am set. You just come home whenever you want. Yeah, you just like, yeah, you're like, I'm good. But obviously, some people don't have the luxury of walking into like, you know, I was lucky that I could always go back to my mum's. Yeah. So I if I didn't have any money, it's fine. Like I've got roof over my head, food, it's fine. Yeah. Whereas some people, I guess, go like, ah, I've I need to get back home with X amount of dollars in the bank because I need to actually still do this, that, and everything else. So yeah. I mean, it's homesickness is obviously a a uh It's for pussies. No, I know it is definitely like I know a lot of people who would love to travel but never travelled. Same, same.

SPEAKER_05 36:51

And I think that's probably a a big part of it. But I don't know. I I mean I never used to go away too much before I travelled. I would go away for like maybe you know, like snowboarding trips or something like that. But then again, this is only when I was older, like when I was in my sort of late teens and early twenties. So when I first started leaving England, yeah. But it I don't know, I I do remember the first time I planned a big trip and it was three months, and I was just like, I know this won't be enough, and I know that this will ignite that fucking fire under me to just go away for good. And it did. Um good question though, Tom. Lacey, I preferred yours, but no, it's a good good question. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_03 37:30

Where was Lacey from?

SPEAKER_05 37:31

Texas.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

TX. Little TX. Um What I wanted to do actually is uh hang on. We haven't done it in a few episodes. I wanted to do some facts.

SPEAKER_05 37:47

Oh, you mentioned this, and then I was busy preparing my set and didn't for tonight and didn't do any facts.

SPEAKER_03 37:54

That's fine. I don't know why. I have to verify I'm human to get into this website. Um facts about where? Australia. Australia. Jesus Christ. You know those websites that are just all pop-ups? Really? You go on them and they're just like a lot of news sites are just 17 different things, and you're like, maybe people would go to your website if you didn't have 8,000 pop-ups, you fucking idiots.

SPEAKER_05 38:18

Yeah, but they got you there and now they get to like sell the ad space.

SPEAKER_03 38:23

I just I turn them off. Did you know the Australian Alps get more snow than the Swiss Alps? Fuck right off. Yeah. This is uh uh where is it? Threadbow and Perishert, two of the large resorts near Canberra um and they apparently get a fuck ton. While many people visit Australia for its brilliant beaches and year-round sunshine, the Australian Alps, straddling New South Wales and Victoria are a mecca for skiing enthusiasts. Snow usually falls between June and September, meaning Australia's perfect place to get your skiing fix during the northern hemisphere summer.

SPEAKER_05 39:08

Northern? That's what it says. We're in the southern hemisphere.

SPEAKER_03 39:12

Yeah, so their summer Oh sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:16

Them coming over here. Fair enough.

SPEAKER_03 39:18

Uh 90% of Australians live on the coast. It's pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_05 39:22

It's it's also that's probably the most obvious one. Yeah, but it's also pretty much.

SPEAKER_03 39:27

I wonder if they'll ever just make a city out there and just be like, this is the new thing. If you want to come and populate it, we'll give you, you know, subsidies for housing, or they'll just get a heap of like refugees in or something like that.

SPEAKER_05 39:41

Well, I mean, well, they've done it, but not to not on like a huge scale. When you look at places like Kalgooli and stuff like that, that was literally just like there's a thing here. And in the case of Kalgooli, obviously it was a gold mine. But it's like there's a thing here, this is the reason to build. But do you mean just like build a city and go like this is where you fucking live now? Pretty much just think how brutal the climate is in the middle of this country.

SPEAKER_03 40:04

Probably not in the center, but still like there's a fair bit of space from close to going out. Yeah. Uh this is pretty weird. Tasmania has the cleanest air in the world.

SPEAKER_05 40:15

That also makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

Because it's near Antarctica.

SPEAKER_05 40:18

Because it's near Antarctica, and because there's just not a lot of I guess there's the population around there must be fucking minimal. So there's not going to be a lot of like carbon emissions and stuff, I guess.

SPEAKER_03 40:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:28

People burning shit and fucking driving around. I'm guessing, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 40:32

The Great Barrier Reef is the largest ecosystem in the world. Yeah. And it's like they're trying to like fucking mine it and shit, aren't they? Like frack it or whatever that word is.

SPEAKER_05 40:42

I don't know what fracking means. I don't really give a fuck about the environment. Um they were.

SPEAKER_03 40:48

We've got the aircon on now, and it's not.

SPEAKER_05 40:50

And we're wearing sweaters. Um they they were doing this thing, or they were talking about doing this thing where they were getting no, actually, this wasn't a great barrier reef. This was somewhere else, but they were getting train cars and putting it in in these, like, in these reefs, these coral so that they the coral would like stick to them.

SPEAKER_04 41:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 41:07

And it would like provide some sort of, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

It's weird.

SPEAKER_05 41:10

I have to look that up actually. I shouldn't just say things without looking them up.

SPEAKER_03 41:15

No one's gonna fact check it, it's fine. Yeah, true. They did it. Um, 80% of Australi uh 80% of the animals are unique to Australia.

SPEAKER_04 41:22

What?

SPEAKER_03 41:23

The animals of Australia are some of the most interesting in the world from the world. And you can't find them anywhere else. Yeah, marsupials to a huge variety of birds. There are so many opportunities to experience.

SPEAKER_05 41:34

Marsupials are dipshits, though. Yeah.

unknown 41:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:38

Fucking dumbasses. Besides a little pocket, fuck off. Besides a um 2.5 kilometers of all the roo is underground.

SPEAKER_05 41:47

That's fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_03 41:48

Yeah. That's massive. That is a lot. I don't know how tall or how high up all the roo is. Above the ground. I don't know. Yeah. That's pretty crazy. Um, if you had to eat a marsupial besides a kangaroo, what would you eat?

SPEAKER_05 42:04

All of them. I would eat all of them and I would waste so much of them because I'd just be like, fuck you all, dickheads. Um, what would I eat? Um, do you say beside the kangaroo?

SPEAKER_03 42:13

Because it's the one that people it's already on menus and stuff like that. Yeah. I don't like kangaroo though, by the way.

SPEAKER_05 42:19

It's too like sinewy disgusting. And people have said to me, it's like, oh, you haven't had it. I've had it in fucking kebabs, I've had steaks, I've had burgers, it's all shit. It always tastes fucking disgusting. Um, I don't know, like a possum or something. Is a possum on my soup?

SPEAKER_03 42:35

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_05 42:36

Yeah. Maybe one of them. I don't know. I don't there's something about an animal with a tail like that where I just go, I don't really want to have to fucking I've got a funny story about a possum.

SPEAKER_03 42:46

Go on them. You know how cats are like nature's serial killers. Oh yeah. Um one of we had a cat ages ago called ages ago called Bean. He was a black tabby cat. He was eight kilos. I don't know what that is in pounds, like 16 pounds. 15, 16, yeah. Huge. And he was like ripped. He wasn't fat at all. He was just a country cat.

SPEAKER_05 43:09

Was he like big as in long long as well?

SPEAKER_03 43:11

Yes, like ridiculously long. Um, and he murdered everything. Because he was jet black. So at night, no one could see him, right? And possums just go from the trees and they walk along the ground and then they go to other trees. Yeah. He would just hang out, grab them. Fuck. And he got a um his favourites were bushtail, possums, and ringtail. Yeah. And he got a ringtail one day, and he ate the whole thing besides his tail. Right? Yeah. And he had its tail in his like little outside bed for ages. He didn't notice. And I was like, ew, this is gross. I because there's not much meat or anything on them. They're just hard. Yeah. So I threw it in the paddock one day. And then I saw him coming back with it in his mouth. How dare you throw away fucking back to his bed. Yeah. And then the next morning when he was out from sleeping somewhere from murdering, I guess. I grabbed it and I threw it back out there. I was like, fuck this cat. And then I saw him later bring it back. And I was like, you motherfucker.

SPEAKER_05 44:24

Why would you fuck with a cat that big? If he wants that tail, let him keep that tail.

SPEAKER_03 44:28

It's true, but I also thought it would be like uh maggots and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 44:32

Yeah, good point.

SPEAKER_03 44:33

Um, and he used to, yeah, I I should have taken a photo of it, but he literally was like curled up next to it in bed.

SPEAKER_05 44:39

And I was like, so funny hearing stories about cats that like that. I have two cats and they are both like they wouldn't survive. I reckon half an hour outside. Really? They would be fucked. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:50

This one could climb huge pine trees, murder any. He, if you put him inside for more than maybe 20 minutes, he would be standing at the door and just be like, let me out. It's it's murder time.

SPEAKER_05 45:04

Not allowed to do that anymore, I don't think. I think, or they're changing it, maybe they're bringing it in so that cats um have like a curfew, I think.

SPEAKER_03 45:10

Yeah, I mean, to be fair, he probably should have had a curfew because they definitely should have a fucking curfew.

SPEAKER_05 45:15

They are menaces. Yeah, I love my cats, but we my wife fenced, um, she netted our garden so that they can't get out. So things can't get in and fucking attack them, obviously, but also mostly so that they can't get out because they are so fucking destructive.

SPEAKER_03 45:29

Yeah, it's gross. I had no idea. Billions of wildlife every year.

SPEAKER_05 45:33

Yeah, it's gross.

SPEAKER_03 45:34

Yeah, I mean, they're just nature's like superstar's cunts, murderers, and they're nature's cuts.

SPEAKER_05 45:40

They are amazing though.

SPEAKER_03 45:41

They're so nice and fluffy until they're like fuck off.

SPEAKER_05 45:44

And you're like, what the fu who gave this teddy bear like killer instinct? My my cat, my big cat. Um, his name's Meow because my son couldn't speak. Um, so he just went, Meow. Alright, we can call him Meow. Uh he hates John Pinder. He acts like a crow. He just came to my house once, and then like um my cat was just kind of like sizing him up, and John was trying to like you know, be really like nice with him as gentle and stuff, and then my cat just went, nah.

SPEAKER_03 46:11

Really?

SPEAKER_05 46:12

Just hit him.

SPEAKER_03 46:13

It is funny when cats hit people.

SPEAKER_05 46:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:16

When they just go like and you just like they're just so strange.

SPEAKER_05 46:20

He hates my mother-in-law. He basically doesn't really like anyone coming into the house, but like some people is fun, like my my sister-in-law, fine.

SPEAKER_03 46:28

It's it could be a smell thing, yeah. Because if you wear a lot of perfume or well, no, but pinder smells like shit.

SPEAKER_05 46:33

No, um, I think I don't know what what it was with Pinder, but with my mother-in-law, I think it's the other she like she has cats and dogs and stuff as well. So I think it's that stuff too. But then my wife's a vet and she will come home covered in everything.

SPEAKER_03 46:45

Yeah, and my cats are fine.

SPEAKER_05 46:47

But I don't know. Cats. I like to think he's just a prick because it's funny to me. They are, they are because he is he with with the three of us, he's the nicest thing in the world. But if someone else comes into the house, I'm like, I don't know how this is gonna go. It always makes me laugh.

SPEAKER_03 47:04

They are vicious cats. I remember like getting we've had heaps of cats over my life at my mum's house, and them literally just like me looking down at like a young cat and then just jumping up and just scratching my face and be like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_05 47:21

Fuck that.

SPEAKER_03 47:21

I wasn't even doing anything.

SPEAKER_05 47:24

My wife said that um she's been bitten by uh cats before, like operating them on or whatever, or having to just handle them. So she's been bitten, and it's like it's so their teeth, teeth are like razor blades, they're like so sharp, and they can do some real damage because they can go all the fucking way in. Like a dog's it's just the pressure. Obviously, they're sharp, but it's the pressure that they apply. And with a cat, it's like yeah, it's like a needle.

SPEAKER_03 47:48

So I had a dude on my podcast uh early days, Jesse Morton, and he was in Malaysia and he made friends with a family, a Malaysian family. They helped him out, they were great. He nipped off to do something and came de I think he went to like East Timor or something, came back, and I believe the guy uh like who helped him out had died. Um, and the reason he died is he got bitten by a feral cat and the bacteria are so bad in their mouth, they're like fucking dragon and he died. He's like what? A cat. A cat. But apparently cats can, as you said, if they want to, if they bite you properly, it's just like whereas like nine times out of ten, they'll just be like, I'm I'm I'll scratch you. Yeah, even when I've been scratched multiple times by cats and it it raises, yeah, because you're like, oh, that must be like bad.

SPEAKER_05 48:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:44

Yeah. I mean, but they're fun though, they're cute little catalytic.

SPEAKER_05 48:48

I love my I didn't think I was a cat person. Then we got cats, and I love these cats. They're they are fucking amazing.

SPEAKER_03 48:54

If I ever win the lottery, I'm gonna get like a couple of main coon cats.

SPEAKER_05 48:58

I really want a main coon. Yeah not so much about the like I know that they're expensive and everything else, it's not that's not the thing that puts me off. Now it's just like if we didn't have my cats, I'd be like, absolutely get a main coon. But I don't want to disrupt because we have one dog and two cats, and they all get along really well, and I don't want to disrupt that.

SPEAKER_03 49:15

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 49:16

And my wife's told me plenty of times that if you if you have male cats, which we do, if you disrupt their environment too much, you can they they get like urinal blockages and stuff, yeah. And it's like it's basically they just stop pissing and then their bladder explodes or something. I don't know, but it's obviously not good, and um, and I just love these cun so much, I just don't want anything to happen to them. Yeah, I'll be a mess if something does.

SPEAKER_03 49:40

Well, I remember this off topic, but still off on topic. Do you remember the comedian Daniel Tosh? Yeah, I went to watch him in like 2020. Um, and he it was either end of 2019 or the start of 2020, I can't remember. But he came to Australia when the bushfires were on. Remember we had those brutal bushfires? Yeah, and he was sorry, what year?

SPEAKER_05 50:01

2019, you said. Yeah, it's either end of 2019. Sounds about right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:04

Yeah, and he he came on like he walk he plays like Tosh.0 for like 10 minutes. Okay, like highlights, and then he walks out and then he talks and he goes, like, I haven't performed internationally for uh 15 years, and he goes, It's because of this. And he points and the the big monitor comes up and he's he's got his two dogs. I don't know if you ever watched Tosh Point O, but he's obsessed with his dogs. Um, and they finally passed away. And he was like, I never wanted to be away from them. He's like, they might they were my my dogs. I had them for before my thinking before my wife, before my fucking kids. Like, this is my that's my thing. I have this is my world.

SPEAKER_05 50:43

Yeah, I've had my I've had robot longer than I've been with my wife, and obviously, like she's older than my son as well. It's so fucking sad sometimes now when I look at her and I go, Oh fuck, you're old.

SPEAKER_03 50:56

Wait, robot's a dog, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 50:57

Yeah, yeah. Sorry, yeah, my robot's my uh she's a long-haired Jack Russell, yeah, yeah. She's fucking gorgeous, but like she has started to look a bit more like an old woman in the last maybe like two or three years, and it's only when fucking you know, Facebook and shit will pop up and show or like your phone now just shows you memories, yeah, and they're amazing. But I'm like, oh wow, your colours like almost gone. Like she just looks and and sits different. I'm like, oh man, it's there's I don't know how long she's a small dog, so she should have another four or five years in a 25, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:29

Yeah, it lasts forever, smaller dogs.

SPEAKER_05 51:32

Fucking Tosh, Daniel Tosh had such a good run, didn't he? I know it's not over, I know he's like still active and stuff, but I mean at the height of it, Tosh point oh was like was fucking huge. His he was touring um not globally apparently, but he was touring and and fucking smashing it. He was um yeah, he was he was doing so well for so long.

SPEAKER_03 51:53

He leaves so many big comedians in the dust. I've heard now. He is so fucking good. I'm genuinely if you go and watch his older stuff, like holy shit.

SPEAKER_05 52:05

He's basically doing um, you know, what what Jessel Necker's doing a bit more recently, I think. There's like there's real similarities between the two of them, not just because of the edginess either, but just the sort of I don't know, he's so like sure of himself.

SPEAKER_03 52:17

Oh, he's a star, like he's genuinely like one of my favourites, and I always forget him. If people were like, Who's your favorite comedians? I'd be like, uh I guess like Australian Carl Baron's my main man, yeah, forever, and then Jim Jeffries and stuff like that. But like as American ones, like he was my favorite for Tosh.0 religiously, every time I was like, it was on it was on MTV for like the longest time, uh, like in England.

SPEAKER_05 52:42

Um that was the only place to watch it for a while. I think Channel 4 had it. I yeah, always made sure I watched it every week.

SPEAKER_03 52:48

Yeah, it was just he was the it was the soup, I think was the original one with whatever that guy's name was, the American Ryan Seacrest, I think. That was a similar show, and then he had the adults version, which was um he was always but he was always so self-deprecating for his audience. He's like, Mighty uh my audience of dudes from 16 to like 24. He's like, fuck, they made me rich. Yeah, um, these podcaster, I've never listened to it, but he's he he just does what he he's got so much money now, he gets to do passion projects. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:21

I wonder what his net worth is.

SPEAKER_03 53:23

I think at the height of Comedy Central buying Tosh Point O was something absurd.

SPEAKER_05 53:28

Yeah, but well, I'm guessing it still is something absurd.

SPEAKER_03 53:31

Oh yeah, he's yeah, he's he's very, very rich. He's yeah, I'm a big fan of him. Anyway, that is the end of the episode.

SPEAKER_05 53:39

Oh, wicked. Well, once again, thank you for everyone sending in voice notes and questions and stories. Keep the stories coming in. We haven't had some I want some stories. Give me some big, beefy, fucking juicy stories.

SPEAKER_03 53:51

Thank you, uh Tom, uh Piccello and Lacey, even though yours was mean spirited. No, yours was wonderful. Um thank you so much. We'll see you next week. Bye.