Pigeon Holed Podcast

Ep 11 Pigeon Holed Podcast - Lego Wars

Tait and David

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In this weeks ep, the boys chat about Lego, race cars, Beetlejuice, celebrities aging, spiked drinks, tv shows, Nickleback and much, much more.

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Dave and Tait

SPEAKER_02

We're here. We're on. We're queer.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you are. I'm not. Sorta.

SPEAKER_02

Sorta. Sometimes.

SPEAKER_00

What's been going on? Just been getting annoyed, uh, adults who play with Lego.

SPEAKER_02

But other than that, I've been pretty, pretty good, pretty happy, pretty one of my mates has spent I asked him one day, he had spent I think in excess of twenty thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_00

Ah, that is that is fucking disgraceful. I would rather you told me that one of your friends kills homeless people. He does that too. Yeah, that's good then. At least he's fucking balancing it out. A Lego sword and$20,000 because fucking Lego is absurd. And he hasn't um lost his virginity.

SPEAKER_02

I know that, but I mean he's never opened them. So yeah, and he but this is the thing, and I know he's done this, he's resold them from when he's bought yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so now we're talking about somebody who is a collector and an investor. That's one thing. What I'm talking about is those those cunts who go and buy like the fucking Death Star or whatever, and then spend six months putting that together and then put it in a room somewhere, and this is their pride and joy. Now, as I say this, and even as I was thinking it earlier today, I don't like this part of me. I don't like this side of me that doesn't like the thing that you like doing. Neither. Because there is there's no well, there's no need for it. Why am I like that? I it's just it's not it's not hurting anyone, but get fucked. It's such a shit hobby. Lego. The other thing, too, is that Lego when I was a kid was like you could make anything out of Lego, you just buy Lego, you can make anything out of it. Now it's like you buy the house from up, and the only thing you can make is the house from up. You can't make anything else. It's a play set where it's just like you there's specific instructions on how to build this thing, and this is how it's gonna look. Could have just bought a model. Yeah, is the fun really in constructing it, or is it not not in like when I was a kid, it was like having all these generic fucking blocks, and then going, I can make you know anything, I can make a castle, I could make a dildo, like I could do anything with this thing. Lego dildo, Lego robot dildo, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that the only one that I I think is kind of cool sometimes, there's ones that you can buy which also have like motors, so you can make like a toy car and yeah, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

Isn't it a different a brand called Makano or something like that? Or is that do they not have that here?

SPEAKER_02

Metal. I think that was a like it was just weird metal stuff. Technics, maybe technic Lego. Did you ever know did you ever have a um what was it? Scale electrics, was that what it's called?

SPEAKER_00

Fuck me, scale electrics was amazing. Now, this is one of those things only as a kid, but this is one of those things where I was like, I always wanted one of these things, never had one as a kid because we were very, very poor. Got one when I was much older, and you know when you're just like this is gonna be so much fun, and it was fucking sucked. It sucked, it was so shit. There's not uh I think it would be fun. This might be a bit of a loserish thing, actually, but I think it might be fun to get a scaleetrics and build all of the things like the stands and everything. Like, oh yeah, if you know the movie Beetlejuice, the the original Beetlejuice, yeah, incredible film. Yep. My favorite thing about the whole thing is the model of the city. Oh, yeah, the train and the up in the attic. Yeah, I think it's so amazing I would love to do that, but I think that would be my golf. You know, as people are playing golf when they get older, yeah. That I think that's the thing that I'll do.

SPEAKER_02

I'll probably like build a model rail, just little models, as long as they're not made out of Lego.

SPEAKER_00

Fuck that. No, not Lego, proper trains, like the hornby train set things that you can get. I'll even wear a conductor's hat and everything. I'll whistle.

SPEAKER_02

Danny's in his in his room. Um I watched Beetlejuice not too long ago because I was going to watch We, the second one.

SPEAKER_00

The original, obviously, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

The dude in that, the the main guy, is it Alec Baldwin?

SPEAKER_00

Michael Keaton.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, sorry, but the the guy who dies. Michael Keaton, I know is.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, sorry, the guy who's the other haunted, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Is the dude from that Rust movie that that shot the fake gun and exploded and killed the assistant director?

SPEAKER_00

Look it up, look it up, because isn't there like 11 Baldwins? This is the thing. I think there's a ton of Baldwins.

SPEAKER_02

That dude was so handsome when he was younger, and he didn't age that like he's still a good looking dude. But I genuinely was like, oh my god, that's a different person.

SPEAKER_00

I think he's quite bitter about it. That's why he shoots people on set. Um, Gina Davis as well. Is it Gina Davis? Is that her name? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

IQ of like 180 or something. Yeah, she's in Mensa. Oh, is she?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, she's in she's incredible as well in that film in that film. I love it.

SPEAKER_02

It is Alec Baldwin, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, okay. So let's have a look at I mean I suppose you you're talking about a film that when did Beetlejuice come out? Like 89, 88?

SPEAKER_02

2010?

SPEAKER_00

No. 140 is her IQ. That's crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I think one's like one's 11.

SPEAKER_00

Well, um, when did Beetlejuice come out? This is important. It's not, it's it's in the 80s. It's in the uh how old do you reckon Gina Davis is? Oh, she's probably 55, 60.

SPEAKER_02

69. Oh wow, okay. Uh Beetlejuice. She still looks amazing. Beetlejuice 199 1988.

SPEAKER_00

1988, there we go. Okay, yeah. Yeah, well, there you go. So but Alec Baldwin would have been probably 25 to 30 in that movie. So and that was fucking 37 years ago.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, he was uh a handsome. I guess he's still handsome now, but I did it look like a different person. I was like, holy shit. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? A genuine like different person. But it is crazy, big fucking like burly dude. Yeah, and in that, like he's tall and slim, yeah, sexy as fuck. Okay, study on.

SPEAKER_00

But it is funny because I often think that the way that we see people age is different now. Uh sorry, not that's not the right way to put it. It's just I did you think it's more documented because of how long we've been watching these people in films. Like you look at Tom Cruise, like we first saw Tom Cruise when he was probably I think his big break would have come in like his very, very early 20s, and now he's what 60? Yeah, so we have seen him age on screen like every no, but we've we've seen it con it's constant. Like we've we've been watching him like the whole time. He's never had a break, it's never been a like he goes away and comes back or anything like that. We've like we've watched every year, and I I don't know. I sometimes I think about the pressure that they must be under. I know they're millionaires and all the rest of it, wow, wow, wow, but the pressure that they must feel has to be crazy.

SPEAKER_02

It's just a weird different life, yeah. That like the rest of us can't even fathom. Yeah, just being like that rich, though. Just imagine walking down the street and someone's like, Hey David, and you're just like, Hey man, and they're like, Ah, I fucking loved you and this.

SPEAKER_00

Or I hated you in this, yeah. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And people are psychos. Like, I've never ever thought to myself to tell anyone, hey, you know that fucking thing that you did? It was fucking ratchet.

SPEAKER_00

What are you doing?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's insane. And I mean, we're gonna get it. We'll we'll get it with the podcast. Um, yeah, there's gonna be people in the comments section being like bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. You know, it's what they fucking do. Because you can hide behind a keyboard. I've never done that though. No, oh yeah, I might now. I'm gonna fight back. You guys write bad shit. Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_00

I try to be like I try just to not do anything in the comments because if you if you're just full of praise, you look like an idiot as well. Like, I I don't agree that you look like an idiot, but I guess you feel like an idiot if you're just like, I really loved you and this thing that you did. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Sorry, I thought you meant if someone's like, take your fat piece of shit, and I'm like, Thank you so much. Oh, no. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00

No, I just mean like just generally, like you, you know, you you see a fucking anything. But we we some of them go like just a little bit too kind of beyond what I think is normal or acceptable.

SPEAKER_02

Well, that's how we know we're gonna make it, like either in stand-up or whatever, when you get a stalker. Yeah, I reckon that is the ultimate, you know you've made it when you got a stalker. And the amount of girls that I've known in my life have been like, yeah, I had to do this because I had a stalker. It's like, what the f no, you didn't. Yeah, he would like come to my work. That's because you're a barista and they're fucked up with getting your coffee, and that's where he went. Um, yeah, but he used to like rock up at places and stuff what you live in the same street and you sort of in the supermarket, like grow up. There are ones that are obviously terrible and will fucking, you know, literally wear your skin.

SPEAKER_00

No, but the word you're right, though, the word stalker gets thrown around a fair bit. 100%. Just like what you saw that dude twice in one week, and now he's your stalker. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Also, my drink got spiked. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like, oh, it's you got free drugs. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I know so many girls who are like, my drink got spiked. And it's like, you were like that last weekend when I saw you were absolutely fucking drunk as fuck, and you were that stupid then, and then this weekend when your friends went, Hey, you know you were a fucking moron. Uh my drink was spiked. It's the fucking, it's the reverse card of fucking 14 martinis might have also done that. Yeah, espresso martinis. Ladies, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna when I act like a fucking idiot, I'm gonna start telling me. It's like, mate, you're drinking coke. Yeah, so it got spiked.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, extra bubbles. Yeah, it just went straight to my head. I started being a fucking idiot. I'm so sorry. Someone with my coke.

SPEAKER_02

I hadn't eaten much, um, and it went straight to my fucking brain.

SPEAKER_00

How do you think you deal with a stalker?

SPEAKER_02

End up fucking marrying them? Whatever. If you want to stalk me, end up sucking their dick. Yeah, nice. Um, I don't know. Are they cool?

SPEAKER_00

I wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_02

Or are they gonna like get me? Oh because Charlie in um Two and a Half Men, Charlie had the stalker.

SPEAKER_00

I never watched any of that. Is it good?

SPEAKER_02

When I was a kid, it was brilliant. Yeah, it's the exact same thing as like you get past it, and then some celebrity makes a comment about that move that show or movie or whatever, and then it becomes the everyone hates it. Like, put the example is Friends for me, was one of those ones that people did it too. And another one for me was it's the biggest show in the world. Oh, uh Big Bang Theory, yeah. Everyone was like, Oh, it's fucking shit, blah blah blah. And then you're like, what you're saying, like they were getting 25 million an episode, like as in like viewers, yeah, for something absurd. It's like so all of Australia, more than all of Australia, were tuning in to watch that show. Yeah, yeah, it must be shit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you know, it's so funny that people But then I don't know, like there's there's definitely something to be said for a lot of those shows, like at the time, there was nothing else to watch. Yes, I was gonna say, Seinfeld's great. Well, I don't know, I haven't seen it. I've tried to watch it, it's just it's not my thing. I'm sure it's fucking fantastic. So many people that I just love, respect as writers, as as actors, as um just you know, comics, they they love Seinfeld. I'm sure it's phenomenal, it's just not my thing. But there is definitely a thing that some of these shows that were doing crazy fucking numbers in like the 90s, it's like, yeah, you were competing with like four other shows, that was it. Like there was nothing else really going on. Whereas now there's there's so many options. Well, there's shit I enjoy watching that I won't watch because I you know I've just got another so many other things that I could be watching.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, that just shows how good that uh uh I reckon 2011, 12, 13 was the last seasons of uh Big Bang Theory. Yeah. So they definitely had Netflix and YouTube. Yeah, that's how good their numbers and stuff were, I believe. I'm gonna look it up right now because I'm curious. But they were they were killing it.

SPEAKER_00

But I went I went back and watched, well, not went back and watched Friends because I'd never seen it, but I watched Friends not that long ago, and I was like, oh, this is pretty good. Like I enjoyed it. I'm not saying it was like side splitting funny every fucking episode, but I was like, this is a good show.

SPEAKER_02

So 2007 to 2019.

SPEAKER_00

That's when it ran. 2019, it stopped. Yeah, that's way more recent than I thought. That's the Mandel effect.

SPEAKER_02

Uh they uh it's 8.1 IMDB. Yeah, you know, that's a high rate. Eight out of ten people, and it's got I think it had nearly a million a million views or like reviews or whatever the fuck.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02

It's a big show, but it's like nickelback, that became the fucking like nobody listened to the thing, Nickelback. I had a nickelback the song the other day, and I was like, who's this?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I was like, that one song, that you remind me song, and it just becomes like it just goes into the zeitgeist of shit that everyone is gonna mock like forever, and then it's there, it's like you're you're fucked.

SPEAKER_02

They're still, but I mean they still probably have millions of dollars and stuff like shows.

SPEAKER_00

I guarantee if you look up um that's whatever that fucking song is it called You Remind Me or whatever. If you looked up that song on YouTube, it probably has like a billion fucking views, and it's theirs.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's it is pretty incredible. I mean, to have your time in the sun as any performer, artist, or whatever, yeah, we were pretty quick to be like, yeah, they're a one-hit wonder or this and that and whatever, and you're just like, yeah, but they made it for a short amount of time, and they're probably still doing it.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna say, a lot of those so-called one-hit wonders, it's like, yeah, that was the thing that caught your eye, and that caught like pretty much everyone's eye, but they still have careers. Like they still look at the amount of actors that you can't name and you see them in everything. Do you know what I mean? There's so many, like, I guess they're like support actors like ancillary characters in shows and stuff where you go, like, ah, that's there's that guy again, there's that girl again. I've seen them in so many things just this year. What's their name? I I don't fucking know. And they are killing it. Yeah, do you know what I mean? Like they're killing it, they have fucking strong, strong careers.

SPEAKER_02

It's like obviously we meet a lot of professional comedians and stuff like that, are touring and doing bits of pieces. Average Joe don't know who they are, yeah. But then you watch them do their craft and you're like, holy shit, why isn't this person on TV?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like you look at Jacques, for example. Yeah, yeah, that's one of the best comics in this country is a guy named Jacques Barrett, and he is unfucking real. He's like a yeah, I don't know how to describe him, but he he would be if you knew who he was, he'd be your favourite comic or one of for sure.

SPEAKER_02

He would be the best way to describe him for me would be like a modern Carl Baron. He swears, he says fucking cunt, he does this, he is a Carl Baron's pretty much like yeah, clean. Yeah, and uh Chucks was not edgy or anything, he's just a just how he speaks. Yeah, he's just yeah, he's great. He is just great. Um but yeah, it's very strange. We just have this idea of if you're not in front of everyone that you know you haven't made it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, there's definitely like made it is so open to interpretation, and like we have a an idea of what made it is, and then I guess you get to a certain point and you forget that that was the thing that you wanted to do. Like, I I I have to sort of pinch myself a lot, like with my job, and I'm like, I this is the thing that I've wanted to do for ages, but now I I want to be doing stand-up more and writing less, you know. But like I'm still writing on fucking TV shows, and I'm writing for like some of the biggest comics in the country, sometimes the world, and I'm like, this is an amazing job, and this is all I wanted to do for a very long time, but now it's the norm, it's like now I just want to be on stage all the time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's it's crazy, it's crazy how we can just like change so quickly. Yeah, or you fall in love with something else in your life.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's what it is. It's like falling like falling in love with stand-up was ridiculous. I never saw that coming because I didn't want to do it. Like it was it was Pinder's idea. I did not want to do it. And then as soon as I did it, I was like, oh, that's it. And I haven't stopped since that was in September, that'll be five years ago. I haven't stopped, I haven't had any time off.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we were talking about, was it last night? We're talking about how many gigs we had done.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, yeah. I counted them and I I sent it to you like what was it, 116 or something for this year?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think mine was 83 so far.

SPEAKER_00

And it never feels like enough, that's the thing.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, I did seven gigs last week. Yeah, um, and it was like we I think we're a bit different. You like to smash out a lot of gigs.

SPEAKER_00

Um, whereas I like to I like to, but I also feel like I kinda have to.

SPEAKER_02

Why?

SPEAKER_00

I I feel like I get rusty real quick.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Like really quick. And so it's not even I think like if if if you're at a show and you see me and I haven't gigged for like say three or four days, I don't think you'd watch me and go like, oh, he looks really different than he did when I saw him earlier last week. But I feel more nervous, I feel like I haven't prepared enough, which is crazy because the prep is always the same. It's always like a you know, the what I feel is like the right amount of of prep leaning into a gig. But it's like I I don't know, I just feel like I if I if I haven't been on for a while, I just it feels weird. It just feels weird. I also do really enjoy it, so it's like why wouldn't I do it as much as possible? I really like it.

SPEAKER_02

You just feel like a step off.

SPEAKER_00

Sometimes, yeah. Yeah. And that's fine, it's gonna happen. But fucking happens a lot, but it's yeah, it's so it's I feel like like you look at last sorry to interrupt you, but like last week I did that comedy, that cap-off comedy that you did, I think, with the week before or a couple of weeks before. And you put it perfectly, and this I'll I'll say exactly as you said it. If I no, if if I had five gigs in a row, like that one on Monday, yes, I would be saying, Well, I gave comedy a go. It's cool. I tried, I tried my best. Like, I don't have too many of those in me where it's just like fuck, this was horrible. And then we did Wednesday, uh, Friday, two on Saturday, and it just got progressively better. And I don't think it's just because of like the quality of the shows or anything else, it's because like you just feel better. You feel like you're I don't know, it's kind of like training or whatever. You just feel like all right, I'm ready now. Like, I know I don't know, Monday was Monday was such a fucking shit show. It like rattled around in my head for ages, even though everyone did badly, it was a terrible no one wanted to be at that gig, none of the audience members wanted to be there, but I felt like the only way to shake this is to do comedy immediately, and I was pissed that I wasn't up the next night. I had to wait until Wednesday.

SPEAKER_02

It is very strange that you can be sure of yourself in stand up, and then for I only speak for myself here, but you have a gig where you're not happy with it, and you're like, I'm not as good as this as I thought I was. Yeah, it's a horrible feeling. Yeah, and you're like, you know, you're like, ah, my material's solid, I'm good, it works. And then it doesn't to a certain degree. I mean, it's very few and far between for the both of us that we have genuine bombs. You know what I mean? Like we see bombs weekly when you go to an open mic.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but still the feeling of like, oh, I don't know if I should be doing this, doesn't it doesn't necessarily take a bomb.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I had it after driving home on Saturday after uh Oh, after Dark Horse.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. But yeah, you were shit now. Um that is interesting because I thought you had a good set. Yeah, well, it's just like this doesn't this wasn't as good as it should have been for this room and stuff, because they were like a super hot crowd.

SPEAKER_02

I probably had my best gig at Leaderville though, the the like just before it, like we all rushed off to go do the second gig. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um that was a real good room as well.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, I mean we have been blessed. I've been been blessed this week for sorry, last week for gigs, because it was like, you know, a decent crowd on what did I do? Had Monday off, had a good crowd at ECC. Yeah. Then Wednesday, obviously, had Guildford, had a good crowd there. Didn't go as well as I wanted to, but got good pop, so I was like, meh.

SPEAKER_00

Shot off and did you've been opening shows a lot as well though.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, true. That's the we'll we'll say that's the issue. Um and then shot off and then finished the show at Port City, and there was 14 people there, and I was like, all right, this is I get to talk to these guys, I get to flex my brain and be like, material's not for these fellas. Let's have a crack. And then that went extremely well. Thursday had a very strange one where before I went up onto stage, there was a guy and a girl who were heckling the entire time. They got fucking removed, so it was sorry, what night was this? A Thursday, yeah. Frio factory.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And then I got to walk up there and just I had a free swing because it was like, well, there was just lunatics in the room. All I need to do is address these guys. Yeah. And for the first time ever, I did a full set where I didn't say a single joke. Like I just talked about what had happened. Yeah. And I just kept on hammering that, hammering that, hammering that, doing scenarios about that, pretending the guy had come back in the room was gonna kill me. Talked about what I would do if that happened, and then just kept on doing that, doing that, doing that. And then all of a sudden I looked at my time and it was five minutes thirty, and I was like, Oh shit. Yeah, and then what was it? Friday, footy club gig, that was a bit tough, but still a big crowd. And then two gigs on Saturday, and it was like, holy shit, you know. Got paid for multiple gigs for the week. That's always good, isn't it? Yeah, that's yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I've remembered the first time I sent off an invoice, I was like, it felt so good. Yeah, it is um and again, it felt better than my first uh pay for um writing for any show. Like my first time getting money writing something and selling jokes that I'd written felt nothing like it felt getting paid for doing stand up.

SPEAKER_02

That yeah, that's interesting.

SPEAKER_00

It's also crazy the amount of effort that goes into the performance, as in like when you look at like I just did 20 minutes and someone just paid me like 400 bucks for that. Like you break that down as an hourly rate, you go, that is insane. Whereas, you know, sometimes I can spend hours writing jokes for something like specifically as well, and I've had to do research and everything else. I'm like, I get paid well for this, but it's taken a fair bit of time. Like I've spent all day on it, for example.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the hourly rate for stand up is pretty good, to be fair, isn't it? The minute rate, yeah, which is pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_00

I'd definitely take the minute rate.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's actually bonkers.

SPEAKER_00

When you think about what we're doing, it's it is pretty silly.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean it's it is very strange. Like I I'm open, as I said to you, this is the best year I've had money wise for stand up, but it's also the most stand up I've ever done in a year.

SPEAKER_00

Um I mean at this rate you're gonna hit a hundred in like a month or two.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_00

Didn't it take you like ten years to do the first hundred?

SPEAKER_02

I think it took ne closer to eleven.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Which is crazy because like I I said today when I was chatting to you on a voice note, I was like, I I've enjoyed it. You know, I've always loved doing stand-up, uh loved doing podcasts, um, but always just stopped. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_00

Well, sometimes life gets in the way. I mean you do a lot of traveling and stuff, it can't always be like a oh, I'll take everything with me and I'll do gigs everywhere I go and stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean laziness is a big one though. Like I'm trying to be nice. Yeah, thanks. But yeah, I think uh also too, I I've just got to the point now where I'm just like, no, I want to do this. I want to get paid. I want to have a job that I enjoy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um it'd be crazy, you know, when we first get paid for podcast.

SPEAKER_00

Do a live show.

SPEAKER_02

That would be that's ultimately the goal, isn't it? Yeah, we'll do live shows.

SPEAKER_00

I'd like to do like a like I'm going to Sydney soon to do the store. It would be really cool if in a few years' time we're doing that and we do like shows, like our own shows, and then this. Yeah. Or maybe like a an a an earlier show of this and then then do stand up in the evening. I would like that very much.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that would be amazing. I mean, I c I can't see why it can't happen though.

SPEAKER_00

Because you might die and I might die.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but you just get someone else in. Not a fat guy with a beard. I mean, he's irreplaceable.

SPEAKER_00

All of a sudden it's uh actually I won't name names because also no one's gonna have like your toes.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, there's hammers out there.

SPEAKER_00

Um let's pause this. I was meaning to say to you, um, in fact, I think I did when I first saw it, but there's a new Doom game.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because you're a big Doom fan, aren't you?

SPEAKER_02

I am. I would happily be playing it, but I don't have a console at the moment because I'm Lil' West. Yeah, um, I love Doom. Doom's one of those games for me because I've got two older brothers. One of my my oldest brother Murray has always played games.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So I was the one who would sit and just watch.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And then I would finally get a shot and die 8,000 times about this fucking shit. Um, because I was just too young and dumb. But that is seems to be a game that's it's it seems to just get better.

SPEAKER_00

It has so many, I think, iterations of it from like I mean, that has to be uh what an Atari, an Atari game. It has to be like a like an early days fucking console game, right? Surely that was one of the first.

SPEAKER_02

It was a PC game, I'm pretty sure. It was the first ever first person shooter.

SPEAKER_00

Was it Doom or was it Duke Nukem? Doom. Okay.

SPEAKER_02

Definitely, yeah, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_00

I remember playing one of them on a computer on a fucking like 30 years ago now. Um, and I remember like it wasn't really my thing, but it was enjoyable, but it just wasn't my thing. And I remember there was a time maybe last year or the year before, and you had gotten a new Doom game.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, we Doom Eternal.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and then I checked that out on the PlayStation store, and I was like, I can't play this, it was terrible. I just really didn't enjoy it. Really? Yeah, it's just not well.

SPEAKER_02

This is the end of the podcast. We tried our best.

SPEAKER_00

This is the end of that relationship. Um, yeah, I don't know, it's just something about it. Do you play any other games? Uh just with women. Give me a top five video games.

SPEAKER_02

Oh shit. Top five video games.

SPEAKER_00

I'll give you a clue. The very the number one of all time, greatest game ever made, not even questionable. Did it come racing? Is Super Mario World. On the Super Nintendo.

SPEAKER_02

I've actually I don't it is definitely played it. Mario Bros. Super Mario Brothers. On the Nintendo, the first one. Super Nintendo. Yeah. Maybe it's the second one where he's with the hat and he fucking like he flies with the hat.

SPEAKER_00

With the hat?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, isn't there a hat he puts on and he like it's like a squirrel cap?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the raccoon suit. Yeah. Yeah. Alright, it's not a hat, it's a full full body. It's a feather and then he never mind. Um it's not even a feather, it's the it's the leaf, isn't it? For the raccoon. The feathers in Super Mario World, he uses that to get the cape and fly. Oh no, I'm gonna do that.

SPEAKER_02

So you're talking about Super Mario 3. Okay, is that three?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's on the Nintendo one, like the 8-bit Nintendo, the system before the Super Nintendo.

SPEAKER_02

Super Nintendo. These aren't gonna be in order.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Just top five. Top five. So we got Super Nintendo uh Super uh Super Mario Brothers, yeah. Number three, if that's the one. Yeah. I'm gonna say Doom, just in its whole encompassing growing up playing um Doot Nukem on 64 was sick. Yeah. Uh Mortal Kombat was sick. And Age of Mythology. What's that? Uh or was it?

SPEAKER_00

Uh is that one of those like RPG fucking What was the other one called?

SPEAKER_02

Age of Empires? Do you remember that? Like you'd build a civilization and you'd fight other people. But this one was mythology where you'd like you'd get random.

SPEAKER_00

Is it like Sims on Acid then? Is it that kind of thing?

SPEAKER_02

Where you're building a where you'd build like a guard tower, and then the guard tower would get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it'd be like that. Yeah. Which is Roller Coaster Tycoon? Was that yeah, I think that was something like that.

SPEAKER_00

I think theme park and then like Sim City, all those ones where you have to build. That's the one. Yeah, you'd have to build like a city and make it function and work and stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so those I think I named five then.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um yeah, I've never been into the CODS.

SPEAKER_00

That's my number one, probably. Outside of Super Mario, my number one is called like Call of Duty Black Ops 4 out of Battle Royale, and it was the first battle royale they ever made, and it was called Blackout. And that was, I'll be honest, I was fucking hooked on that game. I spent way too many hours. I've deleted it off my thing now because all the lobbies are dead and you can't play anymore. But it tells you how many hours you spent in the game. And I remember looking at it and going, Oh wow, that's like eight months. As in like hours played was eight months. I knew that game inside out. I knew it so well that like I knew the sound that every every gun made. I knew if like you hear it across a map or you hear it in a building or something, I'd know what like if you shot a gun, I'd know what it was, so I'd know if I needed to avoid being too close to you, or if I needed to like try and wait for you to come out so I could snipe you because you didn't have the right one, yeah, because you probably had like close range and a rifle. And I thought, like, oh, if I keep my distance, I can just get you with a paladin or something.

SPEAKER_02

Do you reckon that's what the top gamers know all that shit?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I'm definitely not that, but like they I th they they definitely spend more time in those games than I do, and they yeah, but I think that's kind of how I remember catching a glimpse of it, like is in like the way I was playing. I was like, Oh, I think this is how you have to play if you're insane. Like you have to think about like everything, and then you stop thinking about everything because it just becomes natural. Like, if you ask me what the controls were or how to loot, I'd be like, I don't fucking know. Because it's just ingrained, like you just pick it up and you just do it, it's autonomous, muscle memory, yeah. So Call of Duty is definitely number one, just from purely from hours spent, even now, because because that's dead. I'll I'll play Warzone and I don't like how much time I've spent playing that either. Um, Super Mario World.

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah, GTA knocks one of those out. Oh, this is a franchise in general. Yeah, I played from the very first one, yeah. The bird's eye view one on desktop. Oh, yeah, fuck.

SPEAKER_00

I remember that. Holy shit. That was good. Now, when you look at GTA 5 and what they're doing with GTA 6, you're like, Yeah, six is coming out, it's okay.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, dude, Red Dead Redemption's pretty sick as well.

SPEAKER_00

I was gonna say the second one, Red Dead Redemption 2. I didn't really play the first one on the on the first PlayStation. Yeah, Red Dead Redemption, it I think is better than GTA. I just think the story is richer and it's I like Westerns. Yeah, that's the other thing. I like Westerns. I don't know if that makes top five though, because I don't know if like Max Payne, we were talking about that the other day. I don't know if that makes top five, and that was fucking phenomenal. Super Mario World has to, COD has to. Yeah, I think I would put um I think I would put Red Dead in there.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um again, this it's not it doesn't really stand the test of time. I don't like playing it anymore. But Street Fighter 2. Oh, yeah. I loved Street Fighter 2 when that came out. The turbo edition of that was fucking fantastic. And then and again, this is a franchise thing. I probably have to say Metal Gear Solid. Well, first Metal Gear Solid on the on the PlayStation was just unbelievably good.

SPEAKER_02

See, that sort of game is like because it's stealth, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, well, yeah, it no, it is, and then I think there's other ways of like they made a game called Splinter Cell. I don't know if you ever played that, which is really similar in many aspects, as in like you have to be this like stealthy covert kind of thing, but you can also go in all guns blazing, and sometimes it's fun to just do that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's how I like that's why I like Doom because it's designed to that's why I like COD, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh so yeah, I recommend they're my five.

SPEAKER_02

There was a game I used to play on PlayStation back in the day, which I've never seen ever again, but it was called Tenshu, and it would you were uh an assassin, you know, like a uh samurai, I think. Um that was cool as fuck, like you cut people's heads off and stuff, yeah, super hard though.

SPEAKER_00

There are some, I mean, right now there are some incredible games that are like so close to movies. Go on.

SPEAKER_02

I just remember my number one of all time.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, go on. Ratchet and Clank. Oh shit. The the one that they brought out for the PS5 when that's launched. I mean, you probably don't want to because that is beyond good.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00

And it is fucking stunning. You know when they when they have their launch games when they go like, by the way, this is what we've made for you, this is what it can do. And I was playing that when I first got my PlayStation, the PS5. I was playing that and just going, This is ridiculous. Yeah, that's number one. So fucking good.

SPEAKER_02

My mates used to make fun of me. Well, the thing that I don't get about like some of these games is like a lot of kids play them, like younger kids. Yeah, how the fuck do they pass some levels? Okay, so interestingly puzzles and shit with Ratchet and Clank.

SPEAKER_00

Interestingly, my son, he and I used to play Mario Kart probably about four years ago on the Switch. Maybe, yeah, he would have been about five, five or six. He's playing, and we're obviously we're whooping him, yeah, but you like you let him win some, of course, you know, you teach him, yeah, that's the thing. But now, genuinely, he we started playing again about two weeks ago, and he's nine now, and now he is actually good at games, just twirling his mustache, right?

SPEAKER_02

Father, let's play.

SPEAKER_00

Honestly, fucking kind of. So he was watching like YouTube videos to get the best build, find out which tyres, which vehicle, which character, which fucking sombrero fucking thing to get the best build. And he he picks one which doesn't have great acceleration and it doesn't have great speed. I'm like, I'm still I'm still gonna fucking whoop you. But he's learned how to like do this thing called snaking, where it's like just drifting from like sides, but then you drift and you have to time it perfectly so that you let it go and then you get an extra boost. Oh, and he is fucking he's nearly lapping everyone. Oh, really? It's insane how good he is. And I'm like, part of me wants to get good and whip him, but part of me, most of me, just go is like, good for you. Yeah, you just learn how to get really fucking good at something.

SPEAKER_02

It is funny that like the stuff that you're willing to get good at, yeah, because when it's fun, yeah, but if you're in school, you're like, if you don't enjoy it, you're like no.

SPEAKER_00

Well, his teachers have said to me before is like he he really focuses on some things, and then the other things, he's like, you know, if if he's not interested in it, he's got no he won't focus at all. And I was like, Yeah, that's fucking everybody. Yeah, I'm not defensive about it. I'm not like, oh, don't you say this about my butt like yeah, no one everyone focuses on the stuff they like. Yeah, I do it, I'm in my 40s and I do it now. Okay, if there's something that I really don't enjoy doing, guess what? I don't give it a lot of care and attention.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's just I guess from a young age being a kid and going like nah, I don't give a fuck about that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but also, sorry, go on.

SPEAKER_02

I know it's you usually uh in you you try a little bit harder, I guess maybe when you're a kid, because you people tell you, nah, you gotta do this, it's important. He's just like, nah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that was the thing. Like, we did a a parent-teacher um evening last year, and it was just me and the teacher, because they're not they don't come later in the evening and kids don't come. And um, his teacher was telling me that he'll do like two or three questions in a like say there's ten questions, he'll do like two or three of them, and then he won't do anything else. And I was like, What's the consequence of him not doing him not completing the work? And she was like, There isn't any consequences. I was like, I guarantee you that's what it is. And then I went home and I asked him. I was like, Are you too? I I told him all the good stuff first. I was like, Yeah, doing great, and blah blah blah. Because but your teacher did say that you don't complete like fucking anything. I was like, is there a reason that you don't do you get distracted? Do you I was like, what is it? And he goes, they don't seem to care if I don't finish. Why would I finish it? And I was like, fucking smart, because that's exactly what I thought it would be. And I was like, I don't blame like what am I supposed to say? Because I did say it's like you know, you should just finish them anyway, but really I didn't believe that. Yeah, I thought if your teachers aren't telling you you've got to finish this, then why would you?

SPEAKER_02

As a nine-year-old, like, does he bring homework home? They don't get homework.

SPEAKER_00

Ah, okay, they don't get homework at all.

SPEAKER_02

Really?

SPEAKER_00

And I have to admit, I'm a big fan of it because you spend too long in fucking school anyway, just get the shit done at school. Yeah, we've got stuff to do when we get home, we've got Mario Kart to play. I'm teaching him how to play basketball, like we do other stuff. I don't want to be, you know, and we read and write and do all that fucking shit as well. But I don't want homework too. Fuck that. Yeah, I've got to do it. You know what I mean? It's like it's not just you, it's a me thing.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna say, like, what because I can't remember, but what's year nine math and stuff like, is it? But when you're nine years old, yeah, is it pretty simple stuff or is it like just times tables I shoot?

SPEAKER_00

It is mostly, I mean, here's the thing, because we don't have um because he doesn't have homework, like I'm only going off what he tells me and what I see in in books when I get them at like the end of the year, and I'll like have a look through them and stuff. But like currently, he and again, Mario Kart. So when he's adding up points and he's trying to work out how many points that he needs, and he'll be like, What's 25 plus 14? I'm like, fucking seriously, like 200 YD.

SPEAKER_02

Come back, come back to Mario.

SPEAKER_00

So, yeah, I guess they're not really doing oh, maybe they are doing like simple arithmetic, and he's just not good at it. This is the other thing. I don't really give a shit if he's not good at some stuff, he's not gonna be good at everything. Some things he's great at, and you can tell, like he's really good. He I've done stuff on stage about how shit he is a drawing, it's kind of because he's really good at it. Uh like very good at it. Yeah, he's been like doing uh perspective and like shading and stuff like for ages, and it's getting better and better all the time. And like that's actually really, really fucking impressive.

SPEAKER_02

I have the same that's I always tell people that I'm really shit in bed.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but you see me colour in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll draw a fat dick.

SPEAKER_02

I'll draw what I don't have. I saw something interesting today, and I it when I found the answer to this, I was like, oh, that makes sense. Um it was just a I don't know, it's not a riddle, but it was just a questions to solve.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_02

And I I'm gonna say it to you.

SPEAKER_00

I'm gonna get it wrong. I'm just gonna say now, I'm gonna get it wrong.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you're a man of um you like writing and stuff like that? No words. What is there's the only it was what is the only word in the English language that has three double letters in a row?

SPEAKER_00

Three double letters. I don't know, what is it? Bookkeeper. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, when I saw that I was like, fucked.

SPEAKER_00

That's a weird one too, because you don't think of bookkeeper as being one word because it's got two K's in it. That's why.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and the other one, it was another one after it.

SPEAKER_00

Because double K is wild, I don't give a fuck what you say.

SPEAKER_02

And the other one was on your standard keyboard, yeah, which feel free to look at it if you wish. But it's not standard. What well, I mean, you can go on like as in look at an image on Google. Yeah. What is the longest word that you can write in one row? With the three rows, yeah, what is the longest word that you can do in just one row? QWERTYOUP.

SPEAKER_00

No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, everyone always says that. Um, it's typewriter.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not even gonna pretend to be able to do that actually. I for a while, before definitely before phones and tablets, when I was writing on a laptop all the time, I was at that point where I could write and not look at the keyboard. I don't know if I still am. Yeah, sometimes I'll do it. Like sometimes out of like if I'm in bed watching a movie on my laptop and I've got the keyboard turned down, like so that it doesn't light up. I'll like I'll feel for a button. Like I'll say I'm searching something on YouTube, I'll feel for a button and I'll go write T. Okay, so back SpaceX, we don't want T, right? T's there. And then I'll move to the next letter. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I can I can find enter and spacebar and the rest uh spacebar is pretty easy. Yeah, the rest. I I feel like I can write Tate fairly quick because you're always typing in your email and shit. Or YouTube, I'm just like, but apart from that, it's it's all fucked. I just don't, I don't, there's no need, there's no reason for me to be like I can two-finger type it, I don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no one's no one's timing us. Who gives a fuck?

SPEAKER_02

The the thing that we've discussed before, which I find really interesting, is we obviously grew up, you're a bit older than me, but we grew up study on. Let's say we grew up with like Game Boy, right? Being one of the first things that we played. Yeah, you were saying not too long ago, you got your son VR, didn't you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Like how insane is that from a Game Boy to VR? Like, I've never used VR, yeah, but I think if I did, I would never stop.

SPEAKER_00

Well, here's the thing: I've used his VR headset. The games that he plays are dog shit, they're so fucking terrible. There's one called uh Yeeps Hide and Seek, and there's another one called Gorilla Tag. Real similar ones where basically you're just playing tag with a bunch of kids online. It's that innocuous, too. You're literally just chasing them around and like you know, tag or fucking pedophile's not like drinking.

SPEAKER_02

What the fuck? Yeah, I suppose.

SPEAKER_00

Um but I don't let him, I don't let him like speak to anyone and stuff.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. It's a whole different world.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we couldn't get fucked from playing Game Boy unless Super Mario Land, no one was, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, unless uh like a pedophile was like, Hey, do you want this Game Boy? Yeah, and you got a Game Boy out of it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, which at the end of the day, win. Yeah, that's a win-win. Yeah, um, but I've played some games on VR, like there was there was a I I can't remember any of the names because I did this when it when we first got it for him, and I was just like, ah, this isn't really for me. But I played there was one game which was like a sh it was like time crisis basically on VR.

SPEAKER_02

That's a fucking good game.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so this was good, not only because so when you look at your hands, the hands have the guns in them, and so all the reload actions and stuff are like they're very fucking cool. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_02

So you just like yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so you just like this, yeah. But you it's it was really fucking cool. I'm not gonna lie, that was amazing, and there was another game where it was like a multiplayer battle royale team deathmatch type thing. So basically like COD, but like fucking budget, whatever. Yeah, and the movement wasn't great, but I think you would get good at it, yeah. But everything else about it was really fun. Like, I was like, oh, this I could see this being a problem. So let's not play this game. I deleted it because he was never gonna play a game like that anyway. Um, as then I just wouldn't let him. But there were a few games, and then there was this other game, which was like a platform game, it was a very ratchet and clank style game, but in a in a VR world, so you it was ridiculous. I found myself like moving around to try and look under things and over things, but here's the thing it works. Ah, so you like you look under thing and the camera angle kind of like changes a little bit, and then you go and you're supposed to play like that. It was it was pretty fucking cool. But I I don't know, it's not I think because of the generation thing, it's just not for me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I I

SPEAKER_00

I have a PlayStation 5 in my office, and I think I still have my four as well, and a bunch of those games. But I I I play COD to like unwind sometimes because I can just jump in playing. And I genuinely am not like I'm not one of those addicted fucking gamers. Because if anything else comes up, I just turn it off. I don't give a fuck. I usually do it to like to help my thinking process if I'm writing something or if I'm working on something. Like I'll get sent the briefs for something for like a show. Like this is the stuff that we're writing jokes on today. It's like seven days that I'm doing at the moment. I'll get those, I'll read them, I'll put it down, I'll just play a game because it's mindless and it's so autonomous. I'll just play and I'm thinking about that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And then I'll go back to it maybe in like an hour and then I'll finish it. That's what it's good for for me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean that that just shows how much you know the game, though.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and that's because I couldn't do that. I'd be like, where the fuck? Well, I couldn't do it with any other game as well. That's the thing. I can do it with COD.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that is like it just blows my mind that his your son's uh but the early games that he's gonna be talking about when in the future, yeah, that he's gonna be like, Yeah, I remember we had this piece of shit VR, and you're like, What? That was the early days?

SPEAKER_00

That's a scary thing. But the first thing was the Switch, and I remember when we first got the Switch, we like playing like Mario Odyssey, um, Mario Maker, Mario Advice, like all these really cool super because I loved all the Super Mario games as we just talked about. And I remember playing those, and I was just like, oh, he's probably not gonna like these because they're just too kind of simple. Yeah, but he loves them, yeah. I mean that's why they work, and he's very good at them too. Yeah, that's exactly it. They're very fucking cool.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I don't think I've tried VR once, but it was like primitive 2018, and it was like running off like a supercomputer, some crazy thing, and it was very clunky and stuff. But there was a game where you'd go into a coliseum and you it was crazy because it was like real cartoony, yeah, and like super cartoony, and you would stand there like you're in a coliseum and you look around, and it was amazing, and then the doors would open, and then the dude you were gonna fight would walk out, and you'd genuinely be like, Oh god, I'm gonna fight. And then you would like decapitate him, and like you could pick up his head, and when another person ran out, you could throw the head at him. There's like things they had to sit down and be like, what could a person genuinely do in real life? Yeah, and they had to think of every scenario. It's crazy. Like, I'd kick the head into the stands and be like, ah, it's just it's bonkers.

SPEAKER_00

I downloaded a um ISS simulator just out of curiosity for the for the VI headset. Yeah, so you're in the space station, and you you you move around, you have to grab things to like move yourself around, and doesn't take long before you're so disorientated, yeah, and you feel like, oh wait, am I fucking upside down? Like what the fuck? And you have it, you set yourself a boundary, like when you start playing, so you just go like all right, this is my safe space, I'm not gonna bump into anything.

SPEAKER_02

Smash into your TV, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

So you you do that first, and then you establish that, and then you play the game within that, um, within that little boundary, it doesn't let you go anywhere else. I mean, obviously you can, but as soon as you do, everything that you're looking at disappears. So you're like, well, obviously it doesn't work, put it in your fridge, yeah, yeah. It's cold in it's cold in space, but no, but you'd be able to see your fridge, that's the thing. So once you're outside of that boundary, you see the augmentated actual like living room or whatever.

SPEAKER_02

Have you seen that there's like with the new I think it's like Apple shit? Yeah, yeah. That you could literally walk in here. What I believe is you could go map your room, yeah, and go, I'm gonna put a hundred inch TV on my wall. Yeah, and because you're in your brain goes, This is real. This is a hundred.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I was gonna say, yeah. I was gonna say, I watched Netflix in a movie theatre and I watched a movie again in VR, but it's just like being in a cinema. And I know that sounds ridiculous, yeah, but you just sit here, you set everything up so that like you're looking all around here for the screen, like that's the screen, your whole view vision's a screen, you look to the side, someone's just sat there eating a like popcorn and stuff. It's it is fucking insane. It's crazy. This is the thing. Look, last episode we were talking about conspiracy theories and stuff. There is one conspiracy theory that really does fucking trip me out, and it's the simulation theory.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

The simulation theory is one that spins me out beyond belief. Because when you see stuff like that, and you go, like, oh, this is like it's we're capable of creating something that isn't real but feels real.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, then you're like, someone else could do it.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. That's the whole point. Is that if if it's possible to build a simulation, then you have to accept that it could possibly have been done already. Yeah, insane.

SPEAKER_02

That is uh that is very, very strange, all that sort of stuff. I just try not to think about it. And I'm like, why did I get this life?

SPEAKER_00

Well, I I said it to uh why'd they give me these feet? I said it to our mutual friend Tarbo once about the simulation theory, and and he went, Yeah, but why would the simulation make you shit yourself on your way to Port City? I was like, that's a good point. Yeah, I had literally just shot myself the week before. Oh, really? Yeah, in the car.

SPEAKER_02

It's the new, it's the new bug in the system.

SPEAKER_00

I just figured like if someone else is controlling it, why not? I would. I used to play Sims and I used to take I used to build a room, put them in it, and then take the doors and windows off and watch them go crazy. So they might do something similar. Okay, yeah, here's crippling debt. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

True.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, his VR. Here's fucked up toes.

SPEAKER_02

Find out find out about your own existence. Uh that's pretty much it for this episode, man.

SPEAKER_00

Sweet. Thank you so much. Thank you, everybody. No audio notes as well. No, we'll get to those.

SPEAKER_02

Feel free to send whatever you want to us. Yeah. Stories. It doesn't have to be short either.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, can be up to an hour long.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. The more that you send us, the less we have to do. That's it. We're happy to outsource. We'll give you five minutes of fame.

SPEAKER_00

We'll pay you as well. We won't pay 'em. But like we we'll be grateful for it though.

SPEAKER_02

We won't we'll we'll put a little picture of you up in our VR.

SPEAKER_00

Oh yeah. All right. All right, thanks everyone. Good night.