Ep 13 Pigeon Holed Podcast - Bitches Leave

Welcome to episode 13 of the Pigeon Holed podcast, in this weeks ep, the boys rank their favorite movies, listen to voices notes, black books, ghosts and why they hate them, dreams, misremembering things, scams and much more.

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SPEAKER_05 0:00

We're on, David. We're on. Welcome back to Pigeonhold with me, Tate Middleton. And me, uh, Tate Middleton. Yeah, I am also Tate Middleton. It's good to be here. We're all Tate Middleton. I'm Tate Middleton, but I've got better films. Have you seen V for Vendetta?

SPEAKER_02 0:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 0:14

Yeah. It's like there we go. A long time ago, though.

SPEAKER_02 0:16

Ah, that is such a good movie. It is a great film. It's out. It's. Oh, we did games last time. Um, a few episodes last year.

SPEAKER_05 0:24

Oh, like top, top, uh, top games?

SPEAKER_02 0:26

V for Vendetta would be one of my top all-time films. No country for old men. Yeah, that's great. It's in my top five. Let the right one in. Don't know what the fuck that is.

SPEAKER_05 0:36

That's uh it's a Scandinavian like vampire film. Oh, your son's named after my son is named after Oscar in that film. Jeremiah. Um Sven. What would my other ones be? Once Upon a Time in America?

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Really? The the one that came out like 2019 or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 0:56

No, no, no, it just came out in like the 70s, I think.

SPEAKER_02 0:58

Oh, the De Niro's. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00

I think it's about three hours long. It's a brutal movie. It is incredible. The way the way they used to make films where they didn't give a flying fuck about how long scenes were because they didn't care how you felt about like, oh, I need to get to the fucking next exciting part. There's there's this there's a scene in the opening part of that film where, or the first the opening part, it was first half an hour probably, um, where the telephone is he's in the opiate house. You've seen it.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

I I saw it when I was too young. Okay, to be fair.

SPEAKER_05 1:28

So Robert De Niro is in this opiate house and there's a phone ringing incessantly while he's in there, and then other things are happening, and you can hear the phone ringing the entire time. Yeah, because it's like the build-up, the frustration. I mean, it's it is it's masterfully made, it's fucking incredible. But like they just wouldn't make them like that now. And I know that's such an old fucking white cunt thing to say, but they really wouldn't make films like that now because no one's got the attention span for it. Yeah, um, but that's definitely up there. The Godfather part one is up there.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

Too slow.

SPEAKER_05 2:01

I love I like slow.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Well, I mean, yeah, you like slow.

SPEAKER_05 2:03

I like slow, I like uneventful a lot of the time.

SPEAKER_02 2:06

I'm fucking you like that other one that I fucking despise. Um, the the other one, Death Race, Deathproof.

SPEAKER_05 2:15

Deathproof.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

I fucking hate that. It's another slow movie. You like slow movies?

SPEAKER_05 2:18

I do, I love slow films. I don't like action too much, and Deathproof has probably more action in it though than I would like. Um, I also love uh there's a there's a movie called Moon with Sam Rockwell when he's he's on uh like a plant on the moon, basically. Like a it's like they've industrialized the moon and he works there. If uh I don't I don't want to spoil it, but it is a fucking phenomenal film, and he's uh he's amazing in that. Sam Rock was an incredible arc. Uh, The Assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford. Have you seen that Brad Pitt film?

SPEAKER_02 2:49

No, I know of it. I haven't seen it. There's so many movies.

SPEAKER_05 2:52

Beautiful. Oh my god. Um and the greatest TV show of all time is Lost. Okay, go watch what's your top ones?

SPEAKER_02 2:58

No Country for Old Men. Not in order, No Country for Old Men. Um, I really, really, really enjoyed the movie Dread, the newest world.

SPEAKER_05 3:07

It's I watched that and I don't know if it was inspired by something maybe we talked about. It popped up on my Netflix, and I got about half an hour or 40 minutes in. Didn't I didn't hate it because I really love that post-apocalyptic genre. I fucking love that genre so much. Me too. But it I just there was something in it that didn't get me to go back to it. I don't know what it was. I probably will, I probably will go back and watch it all.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

It is like it's action for the entire time.

SPEAKER_05 3:32

Sorry, do you know what I watched? I've never I know I've seen it before, but I just I literally watched it last night. A movie called The Thin Red Line. The war movie.

SPEAKER_02 3:39

George Clooney in that fucking everyone is in that. Is George Clooney?

SPEAKER_05 3:43

George Clooney is in it, Adrian Brody, uh John C. Riley, fucking John Travolta. Everybody is in this fucking film. It is like it is the a cast of A-listers, but I guess because this was made in like '98, '99. So I think some of them probably didn't have the breaks necessarily that they had. In fact, the star of the film isn't anyone famous. Well, he probably is, but I don't fucking know who he is. Um, but other than that, there's like there's about 12 people in there that you're like, oh, you wouldn't no one could afford to make this today.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:12

Alright, sorry. Uh we got Dred, we got No Country for Old Men.

SPEAKER_02 4:15

Uh Viva Vendetta. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Uh Happy Gilmore. Yep. I'd let's say Happy Gilmore and um Billy Madison are like they're in the same, you know.

SPEAKER_05 4:30

Adam's fucking stand-up is just incredible. Have you seen them? The last two ones? I know he's got other ones, but the two that are on Netflix at the moment, no, it's like 100% fresh or something like that, and then sorry, I love you, or I can't remember what they're called, but they are brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

His observations are quite good, aren't they?

SPEAKER_05 4:48

It just he's so silly. Yeah, he's so fucking silly and playful. They are brilliant. If you ever just feel like watching stand up without having to, I guess, you know, dial in like too much and pay too much attention, they're perfect for it. Right, one more. One more. And then I want to know best TV show.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

Ace Ventura, probably. Oh, really? I really like that. That's just like no Robocop. Original Robocop.

SPEAKER_05 5:12

Yeah, I was gonna say Robocop's Robocop is a great film.

SPEAKER_02 5:15

And again, post-apocalyptic sort of I know it's not post-apocalyptic as such, but two films that they're trying to like desperately like they'd they've got Robocop returns, I think, in the ether. They've had it for years. They're trying to like literally the original writers are like they've got it.

SPEAKER_05 5:32

Okay, yeah. Because they didn't they make I remember you telling me about this. The last one that they made was like they they made it what like a PG 13. Yeah, what are you doing? It's Robocop. We literally watched him shoot a man's dick off through a dress. What a great fucking scene that was seeing that like eight years old.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

I was like, oh can you fly, Bubby? Yeah, that's a great the best part of that movie for me is the dude, I can't remember his name, but he's the one that's the 70s show? No, no, no. That yeah, that's red from series. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it is that it's uh that's uh fuck, what's his name?

SPEAKER_05 6:06

I used to tell people that Robocop, the actual RoboCop, was Kelsey Grammar. And people were like, really? I was like, yeah, yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 6:14

Um Clarence Brotico, I think he's it's like something his name doesn't in the move in the movie. Um, but there's a scene where the dude who makes Robocop, right? A Swami little dick guy. Yeah, he makes Robocop in the lab coat, and yeah, he's like essentially he was like, lose the arm, do this, fucking yelling at the sergeant about like if you fuck this up, he's a douchebag. But he gives us Robocop, which is nice.

SPEAKER_05 6:41

How many times have you seen Robocop?

SPEAKER_02 6:42

So many times. It's fucked. Love it. But he walks in. Um he's he's doing coke off two supermodel sticks. And then old mate walks in there and he goes, like, bitches leave. It's the funniest. I don't know why. It's so funny. He literally just opens the door, and the first thing he says, he walks in the room, he goes, Bitches leave.

SPEAKER_05 7:05

How brutal, by the way. And then they shoot the fuck out of his face. Well, well, when they when they kill Robocop or whatever his name, what's his name? Murphy.

SPEAKER_02 7:13

Murphy, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:14

Murphy something. When they shoot him.

SPEAKER_02 7:17

I'm trying to find out.

SPEAKER_05 7:18

When they shoot him in that in that in the beginning of that film, and they literally just shoot him within like every bit of him just flying off chunks everywhere. Yeah, Robocop's probably more of a guilty pleasure type film, I think. I don't know why. Like, um, do you remember Demolition Man?

SPEAKER_02 7:33

Ah, such a good film.

SPEAKER_05 7:34

Yeah, I wouldn't rate that in like top five if we're being wanky and pretentious about cinema, yeah, which I often am. But as like as far as like movies that were kind of stand the test of time as well, like you can watch them now and you go, it's pretty fucking good. Yeah, but Demolition Man is is all the way up there. Give me, give me like give me a we'll just go three. Give me three of like your guilty pleasure ones where you're like, I know this is bad, but I love it. Like, I think more rats and and all those Jason uh Dogma, yeah. In fact, we can group all of Chase and Amy, all of those together. I think they're they're not the greatest films ever, but nostalgically I think I I love them for different reasons. Jane Silent Bob, all of that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 8:12

Yeah, they're they're they're more rats clerks. Absolutely fantastic. I um when so Kevin Smith, when I was in Vancouver, he came to the can't believe I've forgotten this like awesome theatre that they have, and Ryan Reynolds helped save it. Um but he was going there to do like a QA. I loved the Q ⁇ A's growing up. Yeah, he is like before he did stand up, Kevin Smith was such a great storyteller. Like absurdly, probably one of the reasons I got into stand up, yeah, realistically, he's just a brilliant storyteller. But I was gonna go and I think the tickets were I think standard ticket was 450 and the next ticket was 800 to go. And I was like, what the fuck, man? The Rio, I think it's called.

SPEAKER_05 9:04

Crazy thing is is that I know it's a lot of money, but it probably would have been worth it.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

I look like when I'm poor, I sent him a message like on in Facebook, which he never obviously saw, but it was like Let me come.

SPEAKER_05 9:14

I don't have the money, I just want to see I want to hear you talk.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

I was like, 800 bucks, mate. I better get a fucking vial of your blood. Um the names of in the film are so Peter Weller is Robocops.

SPEAKER_05 9:25

He's RoboCops, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

Uh Nancy Al Nancy Allen is why did you fucking change on you dog?

SPEAKER_05 9:32

That's his partner, Lois.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

Um yeah, yeah. Clarence J. Bodicart. Yeah, it was Clarence. Did I say Clarence? Yeah, he did say his name's Kurtwood Smith, he's 81.

SPEAKER_05 9:43

Show me, show me him.

SPEAKER_02 9:45

Red.

SPEAKER_05 9:46

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:47

You know the what I can't remember the name of it, but when when the uh that robot Bob Morton, Bob.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

It's Bob's the dude who got shot in the legs. Yeah. Bitches leave. That's the name of this episode.

SPEAKER_05 10:00

That massive robot thing because you have 10 seconds to comply.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

Scows like a pig.

SPEAKER_05 10:05

I will say that the animation and that is it's rat shit. It's rat shit. It really it's like um a lot of movies I get to really late for no reason. It's not I'm I think maybe sometimes I'm trying to avoid them because everyone's like, Oh, these are the greatest. I'm like, ah, whatever, I'll get to it. And then I do get to it 20 late years later, and no one's talking about it anymore. But like I watched No, but the Terminator movies. I haven't seen all of them because there seems to be quite a lot now. But I watched Terminator 1 and Terminator 2, and there's a scene in Terminator 1 where he like peels his skin off and it is awful.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:39

It's like that scene in Ghostbusters where they open the fridge, you remember it as a kid and you go like, oh, it looked amazing, and then you watch it now, and you're like, yeah, it's true.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

You really there needs to be something that you can like bonkey on the head to be like, I now have 70s vision.

SPEAKER_05 10:54

Yeah. To watch it. Or just watch them and don't be a dick like I was sometimes, where you go, like, oh, that looks really bad. Just remember that you're watching something that was made 30 odd years ago.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

I always think to myself, I always think to myself, like a lot of the times now I put myself into the shoes of like think about when I don't know if you've seen Alien, the original Alien. No, it's you watch it and it's pretty fucking good. Yeah. But you can look at stuff in the background and it would just be like, they painted a toilet seat black, you know? Yeah, yeah. And stuck it on the wall. Yeah, it's that sort of stuff. I love, I think it's called is it visual effects when they actually make the stuff. Yeah, yeah. That's the shit that I'm like, well done. Yeah, that's did you ever see Dust or Dawn? Yes, great film. So the dude in Dust or Dawn, I believe, the guy with like the COD the COD piece, he has a gun under it, yeah. He is like, I think one regarded as one of the best visual FX people ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was on like Conan or one of them going through all this stuff. I think he did all of like the Dawn of the Dead or whatever it was, like the original like zombie movies. I think he did all those.

SPEAKER_05 11:58

It was Dawn of the Dead, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02 12:00

Well, there's Dawn of the Dead with the guy from like Modern Family, which he's like a creep. Zack Snyder did like a Dawn of the Dead. Right, okay. Oh Night of the Living Dead, I think I'm talking about the original one.

SPEAKER_05 12:12

The proper like old school zombie one. Yeah, it was like what do they call those? They have a name for those, don't they? Zombies? No, there's a name for that genre. Oh, I forgot what's called a specific name.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

Anyway, um I do have a couple of voice notes. Oh couple of rando ones.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

Hey guys, it's Mike from Nova Scotia, Canada. Just wondering if you'll have any guests on this podcast.

SPEAKER_02 12:43

Mike's already sick of us. Fuck no, Mike. He's already sick of us. Um, we will at some point.

SPEAKER_05 12:48

No, we won't. And Mike's not coming on. Fuck you. No. Um, thanks for your question, Mike. Uh, yeah, we will. I just I don't know who will win. It's I think we talked about this when we first wanted to start doing this. We're like, we'll get people on when we want to get them on, but it's not like I don't want to have guests on all the time.

SPEAKER_02 13:05

Um yeah, yeah. I mean it makes it easier for us to nip around and do our own thing.

SPEAKER_05 13:10

To be honest, by the time you listen to the first episode, we'd have been doing this for about a year because Tate fucks off all over the place, and with comedy and everything else getting in the way, we don't always have time. But we found there was a chunk of time this year, but we did have some time. So we thought, let's start it now.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:26

So I mean some of these we recorded in 2010, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:32

Before cameras were also too, I should double up. Um so recently we told a story that probably out of whack, and I'll say we'll put out the other one first. By now, I assume that some episodes are out now, some aren't. And I have got a lot of stick about me being a psychopath about last episode of me lying to a lady.

SPEAKER_05 13:56

Yeah, because it was uh I mean it's still one of the most unhinged things I've ever heard, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

Yeah, there's been a lot of a lot of can I retract it? No, say that it didn't happen.

SPEAKER_05 14:06

No, it's out there.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

You it's it's fucking if yeah, if you're listening to this episode, go listen to that one. But also you will find that some of the episodes are all over the shop. We've we're not timestamping stuff, we're literally like putting them out as we spoke about four or five episodes ago now that we we don't do much effort for this. Um it is a pretty much when we get free time, we go and do it and we try and flex our muscle of uh trying to see what we can come up with on the spot, which is has been super fun. Um, I got one more as well.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

Hey boys, it's Tony from Colorado. Loving the podcast. Quick question for David. When you moved to Australia, how hard was it to understand the accent?

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Thank you, Tony.

SPEAKER_05 14:58

It was easier to understand theirs than yours, to be honest, though.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

No, um I think Colorado.

SPEAKER_05 15:03

The accent's yeah, I don't know. The accent's pretty easy. It was hard to differentiate between Australian and New Zealand, though.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:10

Until you're here for a while, and then you go, oh wow, they're so different. It would be like Americans and Canadians. How that how like we a lot of us go like, oh, they sound identical. And then if you're there, you go like wow, they sound totally fucking different.

SPEAKER_02 15:22

Well, yeah, that is a hard one though, because I've lived in Canada and there's different parts of Canada that like obviously is very Canadian, but then if you're in like Vancouver and it's nearly borders like well, it does border sort of those uh I think it might be like Washington and all that stuff. Yeah, it's like very similar, like Minnesota. Yeah, yeah. The accents can't be too too different. Even Seattle is a stone throw away from Vancouver. I think it's two hours.

SPEAKER_05 15:52

It's like um Fargo. Seen Fargo?

SPEAKER_02 15:54

I haven't seen that's something that I'd like I need to watch. That and the you uh usual suspects.

SPEAKER_05 16:00

Oh, yeah, it's great. Yeah, Kevin Spacey's in that, and he's fantastic in everything he's ever done. He's fine. Um it's a really good, yeah. Uh Usual Suspects is great. Fargo is fucking incredible. There's a TV series too, and the first one, I watched the first one, it was wonderful. I haven't seen the others.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

I know you you asked a question uh about the favourite TV series.

SPEAKER_05 16:20

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:21

I think, and I've only seen the first season, but I find it well, this whatever you're about to say then is wild.

SPEAKER_05 16:26

You've watched the first season or something, you guys say it's the best show ever.

SPEAKER_02 16:30

True detective season one is pretty amazing, right?

SPEAKER_05 16:33

Is season one the one with Woody and um fucking Matthew McConaughey? Yeah, that is spectacular.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

I know, but this is the thing, they're all different. That's my point. I know everyone is different.

SPEAKER_05 16:44

Yeah, okay, so I'll I'll let you have that because I I think the next season it was like Vince Vaughan and someone.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

I I've watched like two apps.

SPEAKER_05 16:51

Well, this is the thing. I watched one app and I was like, Vince Vaughan's fucking fantastic. This will be good too. And it just I just couldn't get into it the way I was into that first one. That first one I binged and got I got fatigued for many different reasons because it's exhausting to watch anyway. Because it's such a yeah, devastating fucking thing. But it's so good.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

It's one of the best.

SPEAKER_05 17:12

I heard somebody say as well that um Matthew McConaughey's character, when he's uh you know, he drinks during the interview all the time, it's so that everything that he said would be inadmissible in court. Oh, really? Just another just a little fucking thing they threw in there. I was like, Oh, I wonder if that's true. I don't know if that's true, but I wonder if that would be true.

SPEAKER_02 17:29

It's funny how that he's like, get me beers.

SPEAKER_05 17:32

Yeah, I'll start talking.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

And he's like, get my six pack uh he's like, it's 12 o'clock, this is when I start drinking. Yeah, it's like so he's like, get me a six pack. And he's that they've got to get him beers. And I think it was for that. I always thought this would be this is fucking we'll go on the theme of me being a psycho again. Here we go. If I ever won a good amount of money, I would get storage containers, yeah, and do up mock like crazy, like I'm a detective trying to like find someone. So I would have like a pin board with all this crazy shit going on, and I'd just leave it for people to rock up and be like, what the fuck was this guy doing? And I would have them like everywhere, just like one down there, one over there, and just but just real lunatic shit.

SPEAKER_05 18:20

Sea containers, purely sea containers, just whatever, those storage containers should be. You should do one like uh what's his name? Suresh, I think it was in um in Heroes. Did you ever watch Heroes?

SPEAKER_02 18:33

No, there was that was a big show as well. That was that like Lost and Then Heroes.

SPEAKER_05 18:37

I I maybe, yeah. The writer strike fucked it. Ah the the the the big writer strike that they had back then that completely fucking destroyed that that show altogether. But the first season of it is incredible, and one of the uh the storylines is that the the guy's trying to find all of these people, but in his apartment, there's like a world map with all these fucking lines and notes and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 19:00

We could do it on Todd, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:02

Places we've killed people, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

Um, also, too. I I guess for a full season, uh full series that captivated me. I don't think I can go past Game of Thrones.

SPEAKER_05 19:13

Game of Thrones is brilliant, yeah. By the way, it ended fine. Fuck off.

SPEAKER_02 19:17

Also, I haven't seen the last season, so I'm also insane.

SPEAKER_05 19:21

Yeah, also insane.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

And it wasn't because everyone said it was shit. I think I was living and doing Muay Thai in Thailand for like three months, and I was full like regimented for a while.

SPEAKER_05 19:30

It was it was great. Like, obviously, they had its flaws, but every show has its flaws. But I think I mentioned this last time we talked about TV. I just I really believe that long-running shows like that, people are never gonna be happy because they're always mourning the end of it, just in general. They're like, oh fuck, it's done. It's like the death of someone, it's like the death of an imaginary kid. Um Sopranos as well. Sopranos is another one which is just fucking flawless.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

I've I think I've got through like the first season, love it. But going back to what you said so much better. Going back to what you said though, it's one of those you said about stand up before. Yeah, that I need to be so engaged in it. And I just I don't have that brain sometimes. Yeah, I need to be fully like sometimes like if I'm eating dinner or food or whatever, and I know that I'm gonna be like looking down and doing stuff, I'll put on some easy watching, yeah. Seinfeld or something.

SPEAKER_05 20:23

Sopranos isn't that for sure.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

Yeah, you need to like know like true detective and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05 20:29

Um it's interesting to watch the very first episode of Sopranos because it's made and shot like a sitcom. And again, it was going to be a sitcom. There's a there's quite a few like little slapsticky sort of moments in there. There's one where Camilla gets like an AK-47 out of like this hidden compartment in the house when uh her kids climbing through the window. Like it's it was supposed to be uh like a sort of black comedy, maybe. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Oh actually, you said black comedy, black books.

SPEAKER_05 20:56

Oh yeah, black books.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

That is genuinely brilliant, I think, my all-time favourite. Yeah, brilliant show. Yeah, black books, and that's a show that I can put on anytime. Yeah, it doesn't matter what how I'm feeling, black books every time. If you haven't seen that, it is just a great UK Bernard Black, Dylan, Bill Bailey.

SPEAKER_05 21:18

Yeah, amazing.

SPEAKER_02 21:18

I always forget the lady's name. No, yeah. She uh she's great in it. Fran. Yeah and I I'm sorry I've forgotten your name, which probably everyone does, but um there was an episode of that that always really impressed me where they didn't leave the airport. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:38

And but it it felt like because you were out of the store and they didn't really do that very often, they broke it up in this very weird way. And um I it made me anxious the entire time because I was like, can you just get back to the shop? Like I've I've written TV shows and sitcoms specifically, where when we're pitching the idea, they'll tell us, keep it like In in one spot, but then it ha you have to break it up. So you have external they call them like establishing shots, obviously, to show that you know, if we were shooting this, we would have external shots of this apartment building to show that we were here. Yeah. And then you do it with maybe one or two other locations so that people don't get bored of being in the same place the whole time. Yeah. But with black books, it was the environment was perfect. It was like, you know, cheers.

SPEAKER_03 22:22

Yep.

SPEAKER_05 22:22

The way they made cheers is exactly the same. That pub was like, I don't ever want to leave this place. And that's how you feel about the bookshop. You're like, just keep me here forever. That airport episode spun me out. I was like, I this is great, but I hate it so much. Can we just go back to the shop, please?

SPEAKER_02 22:37

End of season two, I think.

SPEAKER_05 22:38

Can't remember exactly. I haven't seen it in a very long time. But it is a great show.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

It's so one of the I think the first episode or something. Yeah, yeah. Get me my treat. The I think it's the first episode or the second episode when Manny is introduced. So I believe it's the when he starts his first day is the second episode.

SPEAKER_04 22:59

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 23:00

Yeah, he gets he becomes Is it not the first episode? No, he's in the first episode. He's got his job at the telemarketing. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:06

And then he yeah, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

So the second episode, he goes in for the job and he does his day, I believe. And I think Bernard's like, nah, you can't work here. This is a madhouse. It's fucking, it's crazy. And he's just like looking around, he's like, the bookstore. And then all of a sudden, they've got the door open of the bookstore, and a massive blow fly comes in that you can't see. And he goes, and goes out the door, and the door closes behind it. And it's such a he's just like it's just such a funny visual that you don't see anything, but the idea of a fly going in and then the door closing behind it by itself, it's just brilliant.

SPEAKER_05 23:47

And that's supposedly like reaffirming what he's just been told. But you're right, this is a fucking insane place.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

Uh it's just it's just so well done. There's only three seasons, and I think they're like six to eight episodes.

SPEAKER_05 24:00

To be honest, there's too much incredible TV to for me to list. Like there's there are so many shows that I, you know, even if you went genre by genre, there's so many shows that I'm just like, oh, that was an incredible show. I think Severance is amazing.

SPEAKER_02 24:13

Most expensive TV show ever made.

SPEAKER_05 24:15

Yeah, it's like fucking a million dollars an episode or something.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

I think something more than that. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:20

Okay. So I want a million dollars an episode then.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

That would be nice. But I don't also, I guess it would have to be a lot of CGI. I've never seen it. How is it? CGI? Well, I'm how how how is it all of a sudden a million dollars or like$20 million an episode?

SPEAKER_05 24:36

Look, I would say a lot of it would be the cast. I would say a big chunk of it would have to be the cast at this point, because it gets to I think a stage where I think we're in season two, so I'm guessing the contracts that they'll all have renegotiated will just be like apparently.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

Um going back to I always forget his name, was it Gandolfini?

SPEAKER_05 24:58

James Gandolfini, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:00

For some reason I thought his first name was Gandalf and his last name was Feeney. Mr. Feeney. Yeah, but he apparently I I saw a I think on your mum's house now they have a podcast of the two kids. Oh uh from uh fucking Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:16

I've seen that and and um What are they called? Uh AJ and and Meadow. I don't know their real names, but AJ and Meadow, because I've seen other clips where they've got like I forget her name, but uh fucking The Mum? No, not the mum. E.D. Falcone. Yeah, not her. She was in Louis CK's um uh fucking Horace and Pete series.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

I don't even know what that is.

SPEAKER_05 25:41

It's it's amazing, and she is fucking unreal. Give her all of the awards until she dies. She's just sublime. Um, but yeah, I I forget her name now, but there's a there was another actress who in Sopranos was in that apparently. I think she's like an OnlyFans star now as well.

SPEAKER_02 25:56

Yeah, I'll track it down. But you will. What I was gonna say was I believe James um sat down with the the boy. Yeah, yeah. Because he was fucked up the show. He was on Percocets for like ever. Like he's just come like good, I think, in the last five years. Um but apparently he was like, Hey, are you are you doing like sat him down and was like as he was like a boy in the show and was just like, are you making sure that you've got like this much money coming in and what are that what's your contract and like make sure to ask for this, this, and this, and yeah, when it becomes into syndication, you make sure that you get your residuals and all that, and he was like really, really hot on it. Yeah, and like helped him and then he became a pill head.

SPEAKER_05 26:44

That's pretty well, that's okay. That that part's not, but yeah, that is pretty awesome that he did that. You often wonder, like, uh some of those younger actors, they must get fucking royally screwed.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

Oh yeah, for sure. But we don't have to worry about that because we're adults. You'd assume that those younger actors and stuff like that, it's like it's just filled forever of them being unfortunately uh mismanaged by parents, siblings, yeah. The greed of it as well. Yeah, it would be pretty weird having like a cash cow kid, you know. Obviously, your son um Oscar is just a normal kid. He goes to school, he does his thing. Fuck an idiot. Yeah, no, but could you imagine if he had was in that world? It'd be very strange. And then knowing that, like, let's imagine that you and your partner didn't have much money at all, and then you were like, Oh no, we need him, we need him to make this money.

SPEAKER_05 27:40

It's a crazy thing, be like a Jackson 5 type scenario where it's like we just gotta keep them working so we don't fucking have to. That would have sucked. That would have been a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

That's why they're all insane as well. Yeah, um, you said you need some ghost stories or something.

SPEAKER_05 27:54

Oh, yeah, I put a thing out on Instagram. Now, I haven't read any of these, so let's just go see all responses.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Uh do you believe in ghosts?

SPEAKER_05 28:05

A bit like the whole religion thing. I it feels really arrogant to say, like, oh, there's no such thing as ghosts. I feel like those stories probably came from somewhere, but I just think that it's really unlikely. Because again, when people go like, you know, oh, they came from somewhere, it's like, yeah, people made it up. Yeah, I think that's probably the case. But I don't like to go definitively there's nothing.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

I this is on topic but off topic. I always wanted to know, like, is there vampires?

SPEAKER_05 28:32

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Well, it like forever they've been spoken about.

SPEAKER_05 28:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

There's always been something that's been like Well, not forever, obviously.

SPEAKER_05 28:40

Somebody first came up with the concept of it, as they come up with the concept of forever ago that it happened. But stories, like Bible stories and all of these different things, like the vampires in the Bible at some point, we'll know, but at some point, somebody came up with this story because we do it now, but we're now we just go like, oh yeah, he came up with this story.

SPEAKER_02 28:58

And she was an influencer.

SPEAKER_05 29:01

Um do you believe in ghosts?

SPEAKER_02 29:05

The same thing, yeah. Oh, I will tell you this: it is one of the only genres of film that I will not watch by myself. Really? Because I start to hear noises and I'm like fucking ghost. So and I don't like that they can just go through walls and shit. Fair, yeah. I used to do a joke about it that the unluckiest ghost in the world would have haunted a blind and deaf person.

SPEAKER_05 29:31

That's quite good.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

Yeah, and I got fucking nothing. Just to throw away one liner.

SPEAKER_05 29:36

I um I watched this TV show when I was very, very fucking young. I was left home alone a lot. And I watched this TV show, I forget what it was called, but it was a Halloween like special thing. I didn't know this, right?

SPEAKER_02 29:51

Anthology was it? Because there's one that terrified me, and I don't know its name to this day. No, this is.

SPEAKER_05 30:02

And then things start happening in the studio. Ah, and all the presenters like are pretending to be afraid and stuff, but I don't know that this is just acting. And they also had these other stories, um, because it was again a Halloween special, and they have these stories of like reporting this uh they go to this person's house who uh is experienced like a poltergeist, and their their daughter is being like scratched and and cut and stuff by the poltergeist, and they will go in and she's up on the ceiling and stuff, and it genuinely fucking terrified me to the point I've never told anyone this because it's still I don't know why I'm quite ashamed of it, but I I didn't want to go to the toilet, so I peed in my bedroom. I just went to the end of the bed and just peed on the floor because I was terrified to go, I didn't want to be out of the room, I was so fucking scared. Well, there was no one in the house either, it was just me. And I was like, I must have been about seven or eight years old, and I was just fucking terrified. Oh my god, that's still I reckon now if I watched it, I'd probably cry like a baby, even though I know it was like so. It's one of those things where it scared me so much that it wasn't until way, way later I was like, oh, that that wasn't a thing, yeah. It wasn't a real thing.

SPEAKER_02 31:15

There's a there's a movie, I think it was a movie anthology sort of series, and it forever has haunted me since I was like, Is it old or old, old?

SPEAKER_05 31:26

Yeah, it must be old.

SPEAKER_02 31:27

It might have been like called like a creep show or something like that, right? And it genuinely scarred me.

SPEAKER_05 31:34

Remember any of what it was about?

SPEAKER_02 31:36

I remember the very last scene, and they literally like the boy opens a like a cabinet or something, and there's a head in there.

SPEAKER_05 31:43

Yeah, and it was is it visual effects stuff that gets you? It's not the jump scare stuff.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Or so seven, I think.

SPEAKER_05 31:50

For me, it's like I don't really get scared of watching films, but the thing it's it's never the jump scary stuff. I always think that's kind of cheap, it's the premise and the idea of what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

Exorcism scare me.

SPEAKER_05 32:03

Yes, that I find that terrifying. Because you see people, I've seen people in Frio.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

Yeah, I'm like, that's a scary person.

SPEAKER_05 32:12

I have uh ridiculous followers. Uh I haven't read any of these until right now. Um, I asked for ghost stories, Tate. A ghost touched my balls. That's all he said. Uh a ghost had six shots of Jaeger and threw up in my sink last night. Uh the Marlies were dead to begin with. The Jacob Marlies, I'm guessing.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

I don't know, they are uh another Bob's.

SPEAKER_05 32:37

Uh Aiden Doe said a ghost wants shit your pants. I I was driving um one of the comics home the other night, Danielle, and she we were no, no, it's before that. We were just hanging out. Yeah, I think we were just hanging out, and uh for whatever reason the topic of like shitting yourself came up. Was it was it dark horse when she said it? Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:58

And um she said it in confidence too.

SPEAKER_05 33:00

Oh yeah, I was talking to Aiden the other day. He was telling me about how you shat yourself on the way to a gig. I was like, ah, great. Um true, true story. Um, my granddad said he once saw a ghost of an old man putting a pair of boots on. Now that would scar that's something like that would scar me if I actually thought that.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

Yeah, yeah. 100%.

SPEAKER_05 33:20

My mum said my grandma was in our cat when she died.

SPEAKER_02 33:25

Well, your mum's got schizophrenia.

SPEAKER_05 33:27

Or bestiality or like spending the grandpa, in it. My mum said my grandma was in our cat when she died. Oh, I guess like oh yeah, because people do that thing when they go, Oh, grandma's still with us and she's in the yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

I'll be like, that cat's going in the fucker microwave if grandma's in it. We killed her once, we get rid of her again. Um, my dad told me, and he was straight faced, that he's like, Oh, there we've there's a ghost in this house.

SPEAKER_05 33:54

And the house that you were living in.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

No, no, he's like uh parents broke up early on, explains a lot. Um, and then his new partner, Jenny, and they had a kid together, so I got a uh steps half sister. Um, but she like they were both like, yeah, yeah, we like we 100% have seen the ghost in this house multiple times. Um they had a name for it, Elizabeth. She'd come out of like they would get an eerie feeling, and all of a sudden it would like fucking appear, walk through the room into like their kitchen, and they would just be like nod and be like, Okay, that's here. But I'm pretty sure both bongheads, uh Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:37

See, that was that was the thing I was gonna say. The thing that gets me with people who have ghost stories, um, or or like really believe in them and go, Yeah, I've seen this, this, and this. It's I'm fine until it's somebody that I go, oh fuck, you're a really normal person. Like I know people that are just they're completely normal, they don't believe in any of this sort of shit, and then they go, Oh yeah, I saw a ghost when I was like in my twenties or whatever. You're like fuck.

SPEAKER_02 34:59

I've I've got a sort of like a ghost, I guess. Some people won't like help with this. So I went to school with a guy, yeah, right, and I won't say his name, Keith. And he uh he told me that he had like a like a premonition. Is that when like a yeah, when you see things and yeah, and I was I didn't realize he was religious. Okay. And he's like, Yeah, I had like a uh an out-of-body experience, and I had like a a whole like a fucking stroke, like a like some like something like that, and he was like, Yeah, it changed me forever, and now I know that there's like a divine fucking god and all this blah blah blah. Um and became religious. So that was strange.

SPEAKER_05 35:47

With not I mean, pilots experience it sometimes, they'll black out in cockpits and then they have a a view of them flying the plane, but it's because that's a a visual that they know is a thing, so there has to be like their brain is trying to connect things while they're trying to hold on to consciousness, and they go, Oh, I saw myself. It's like, yeah, because you know what that would look like.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

I have a weird theory. Go on, because we've been talking about like conspiracy theories and stuff. Sometimes I think, and this is maybe I heard it somewhere else, so I'm not, you know, claiming this fully, but sometimes I think dreams are just to like your other life, like the other side of the simulation. You know, when you've got like COD when you like fight zombies, yeah, like that's it's that version. Like you just have like a wacky alternate version going on at dream time, yeah. Because you can't remember any of them. I can remember them sometimes when they're bad. I find it insane scare the actual fuck out of me. Then I'm like, I had for the longest time I spoke to a guy on my podcast, the Tay Talks podcast. Um don't subscribe just a guy called John Dore, and we both had the same thing where we had horrible dreams that we had accidentally killed someone.

SPEAKER_05 36:58

Oh I've had that, and then you wake up going far, oh thank you.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

We didn't kill you'd never killed someone in the dream. It was the repercussions but you knew that you'd killed someone and you knew that police were coming, yeah, and you like buried someone and they finally found them.

SPEAKER_05 37:13

I've had that a lot, and I think you'll find somebody out there, some dream expert, be like, Oh, yeah, it's because you're worried about secrets or something. It'd be something, you know.

SPEAKER_02 37:20

Ah, all right, I'm gay. No more nightmares.

SPEAKER_05 37:23

I'm gay, and I'm worried about people finding out that I've murdered six people. It's my biggest fear.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

Six of my gay lovers. But it's yeah, it's genuinely like I I had it for a time where I was having it too often, yeah. And I was genuinely like not sleeping properly and stuff, and it was actually nice chatting to someone else about it. I'm like, Oh, I thought I was a fucking like psycho, but I guess there's other psychos out there, yeah, realistically. That's all it is.

SPEAKER_05 37:47

Found another one, found another psycho and got them on your podcast. That's all that is.

SPEAKER_02 37:51

Yeah, genuinely, it's the worst feeling. You wake up like I've done something horrible. Or I have it all the time about like, and this might make sense, trying to get more spots at the comedy lounge. And I have a thing about like I park somewhere and something goes wrong and I can't get to the gig.

SPEAKER_05 38:08

Yeah, okay. I get I have this weird um one where I'll be reversing out of my driveway to go somewhere, and as I break, the it I just can't break, so I just keep going and keep going and keep going. I'm just reversing for like an hour and then I'll wake up. It's f it's so frustrating, it's so fucking annoying. And again, they probably all have these sort of deep meanings about things that you're dealing with and everything else, because they do say that the things that you dream about are just the subconscious dealing with something else or like reconciling something else from your from your life in a certain way.

SPEAKER_02 38:44

Yeah, I guess. I mean, our brains are just so crazy.

SPEAKER_05 38:48

Well, yours is fucking retarded, mine's fine.

SPEAKER_02 38:50

Yeah, um you're doing a podcast with me, so it sort of says you're retarded too.

SPEAKER_05 38:56

No, your your yours is great, it's just your feet that are fucked. Your brain's great.

SPEAKER_02 38:59

Um my brain fucked it. They should have made them. But you're a no-on ghost. Agnostic, is that the word?

SPEAKER_05 39:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um I think so anyway.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

I don't know if they use that when referring to ghosts, but I said I still weirdly, and I as I said, I turned 35 this year. I have a vivid memory in my head of being a young kid, and my brother and I used to stay in the same room. Our older brother was in another room, and then the third room which my brother should have stayed in, um, that was in my room, it was really, really cold. Old, very old house. Yeah. House was This is real or this is. This is real, yeah, yeah. This is back when I was a young kid. Yeah, yeah. Um So our house, my mum's house used to be a somewhere like where like priests and stuff lived. Like a monastery. I don't know, whatever, but a house. Yeah. And all our doors are numbered in our house and stuff like that. Terrible things obviously happened in it. Um, but it's old as fuck. It came from another place on cut in half on two separate trucks, and then they sewed it together. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I still remember as a young, young, young, young, young kid, and I don't know if this was a dream or a movie, where my brother and I were talking to someone in the room that no one was in, usually. Right. At the complete opposite end of the house, and then my brother and I talking to my mum about it, and they're like, she was like no one's in that room. So that but that happened? I think so, but I don't know, because I would have been six. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:47

I think if um I think in those instances it's hard because it could, yeah, it could be like you merging some memory with some thing that you've seen, or maybe your brother like suggested it, and then you just go like, oh, that's a memory of mine. And yeah, because you know, sometimes my son will say, like, oh, I remember so and so. I'm like, no, you don't. I've told you about it, and you've seen the video that I played you or whatever of you, you know, dancing with the dog in a puddle, and you go, like, oh, I remember that. You don't remember it, you just yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:15

If you put it together, I also remember the same thing at my mum's house of being outside, and we have like this a very, very old deck that came with the house. Um and very strange. The house actually used to be the opposite way. So the essentially the way that the house got put at my mum's house. It was upside down. Yeah, no, no, no, upside down. Yeah, the roof was on the butt essentially the entrance used to be. The doors were numbered. How weird.

SPEAKER_05 41:47

This fucking house is upside down, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:50

The chimneys in the ground, but it used to be the opposite way, so the entrance used to be one way, and then they've flipped the house around, so it was very different. So there was a deck, this weird deck. But mum lives on a hill, so it's obviously fucking now, it's really high up. Yeah, I remember as a kid, and I still to this day don't know if it was real, my brother killing a bug, like an ant, big ant, which they are at my mum's house, and then all of a sudden a fuck ton of ants coming out from like the bottom, because the house is on stilts, yeah, so it's like raised, like sort of like a Brisbane home.

SPEAKER_05 42:26

Did he kill the queen or something?

SPEAKER_02 42:27

I don't know. Uh still to this day, and I remember running inside and there was ants everywhere, but same thing, I don't know if that was real. I mean because I would have been a young, young, young kid.

SPEAKER_05 42:39

Yeah, but I mean there's probably more chance that that was real than that. Yeah, so yeah, you've exaggerated it as well.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 42:45

Just in my head. Six ants, but you're like, there's like eight million ants on the cuz.

SPEAKER_02 42:49

I can't count. I guess a bull ant when you're a little kid looks like a horse. Yeah. I mean, they those things are fucking huge. So that was yeah, so I lean towards the side of no, yeah, but also too, like I've had, you know, my dad was fucking a space cadet, but functioning alcoholic. But it sort of he said it with so much clarity, I still remember it.

SPEAKER_05 43:10

I mean, like that's the thing that bothers me when people like tell me stories and they get they go like a hundred percent. But then the thing that really gets me is like so I used to go out with a girl who grew up on a place called the Isle of Wight, which in England is just off the coast. I don't know if you know where it is, but just off the coast of where I'm from, Southampton, and it is apparently one of the most haunted places in the country, and there's a pub that's one of the most haunted pubs in the country, and she was like, I used to work there, they like glasses would like fly off the table and stuff. I was like, Cool, did anyone film it once? Yeah, and the answer's always like no. I was like, Well, that you got CC TV around the place, nothing ever got caught. The ghosts know all the blind spots. Sorry, but fuck off.

SPEAKER_02 43:49

So when I opened for Tory Griffiths, one of our comedy buddies, um The Calamunda Hotel. They say that's haunted. So they say that's haunted tenfold. They're fucking crazy shit. There, I was talking to the manager uh Saturday weekend manager or whatever. Tori's on stage, I open for him, and then he's doing his thing. I'm like, Well, I've watched him a thousand times, I can't be fucked. So I'm just walking around and um she pops out of nowhere, and I'm like, I'm literally the first thing in my head was like a real and then she's like, Oh, how you doing? I was just like, All right, like ghosts don't usually talk. So I'm having a yarn to her, and I'm like, This place haunted. And she was like, Oh yeah, this is why I work here. And I was like, What? So I wish I went on after Tori to say this story, yeah. So she says to me, She's like, Oh yeah, my mum passed away, and my mum loved this place, and I also knew that this place is like a channel for the the undead, and I was just like, Okay. And she was like, There's already like three or four people, and then she pointed to a painting on the wall that just happened to be there. This is no lie, yeah, it's old, old painting. She was like, This guy used to own it, he's the old owner, blah blah blah blah. He's around a bit, I've seen him multiple times, everyone's seen him multiple times. There's fucking there's a young girl, we found out she drowned. I was like, all right, cool. Seeing her, blah blah blah. Telling all this fucking shit, and I'm just like looking at this lady, and she was walking away, and I the weirdest thought of being like, Do I touch her and just see if she's actually real? Um, and then I don't know if I told you that night when I was went in to get photos of Tori on stage. The room runner.

SPEAKER_05 45:33

This is during the the We don't want to name her because it's not fair, but Nicole.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

Yeah, the Perth Fringe Festival. She taps on my shoulder and she's like, I'm freaked out. And I was like, What the fuck? Okay. And she was like, I saw something, and I'm like, okay. And she was like, Can you come and help me? And I was like, Oh, alright. So we go outside, and she was like, I saw something move in the corner of that window. That's the um the so this old pub is surrounded by an outdoor, like what'd you call it?

SPEAKER_05 46:05

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not mezzanine, but yeah, a decking over the balcony island. Yeah, balcony, but it wraps all the way around the end.

SPEAKER_02 46:12

And she's like, the balcony stops there. Like there's no one sitting there, and I saw the curtain pull, I saw a an image, and I was like, I'm starting to get freaked out. And then she was like, Go check. And I was like, What the fuck? Fucking Ghostbuster. She's behind me, like in a film. I walk outside, look out, and I'm like, it's just four dudes vaping out there. I'm like, fucking, get the fuck out of here. I'm like, and then she was like, Oh, you scared me when you went on stage and you said the ghosts, and I saw that. Anyway, bye. And I was like, goodbye.

SPEAKER_05 46:43

I talked about all of this on stage. I don't know if you saw any of my set tonight, but I talked about the Calamander Hotel and the and the haunting stuff. And it all came from that because not from the the fringe where you did, but I the first show that I did there. The um I was talking to the bar manager. That part's true. The the joke that like she got technical and she went, it's haunted as fuck. Like she she just started going off on this. Probably. But no, this one was really young, she was very young, but she was telling me she couldn't have been too old. Okay, she was like 22, 23, yeah. Um, she was telling me all these different like ghosts and like the she was in her because I asked about the bathrooms because I didn't know anything. I was like, Where's the toilets? And she goes, Oh, it's through there. And she went, but you know, I was like, She went, Well, just you know, be careful.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

I was like, what are you talking about? You should have walked out and be like, This is crazy, a ghost shit on the floor.

SPEAKER_05 47:35

Man, a ghost has blocked every toilet.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

This ghost is a real dick, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:40

Real motherfucker. Um, yeah, it's I don't know. Like I say in the whole fucking thing, it's like the Calamander Hotel is great, but why are they all going there? I don't get that at all. I don't understand it.

SPEAKER_02 47:54

Yeah, the whole idea of ghost haunting things and stuff like that is very, very strange.

SPEAKER_05 48:01

Wolfie was doing this bit for a while where I think he gave up on it because he said it was someone else was doing it maybe. But anyway, Wolfie was doing this bit about the what they wear.

SPEAKER_02 48:10

Oh, yeah, Victorian garb.

SPEAKER_05 48:11

Yeah, because it's always the same. Like whenever we see it, it's always the same. Like, at what point are we gonna see them wearing like TNs?

SPEAKER_02 48:17

Yeah, yeah. Well, my ghost can't fucking what are you doing? You fucking don't they never talk either. That's the thing that I don't like. Yeah, what would be your go-to number one horror movie?

SPEAKER_05 48:33

Go to horror. I watched a series called Um The House of on Something Hill or whatever it was, it was no it was uh what was it?

SPEAKER_02 48:46

It was great though, it was really not too long ago, like it was like 2019, something well really big on Netflix.

SPEAKER_05 48:51

Yeah, I watched it only about a year or two ago. Yeah, I've seen that one. That was scary. I thought it was fucking phenomenal. It was uh in a funeral home as well, like that one.

SPEAKER_02 49:01

Is it the one where the lady can like kind of see what's things that have happened? Yeah, she's like they're a detective and she's like there's scratches on the roof. This is where fucking some kid was raped and all that. Yeah, the I thought that was great. The house that was scary as fuck. The house of something hill, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 49:17

The House of Something Hill or The House of Blythe? House of Blythe manor or I don't know. Anyway, that was really good. But as far as movies go, um scary scary movie. I don't know, I don't really watch too many.

SPEAKER_02 49:30

Um is Jaws a horror movie?

SPEAKER_05 49:32

I suppose it is.

SPEAKER_02 49:33

That was a good one.

SPEAKER_05 49:35

I like the Blair Witch project, the first one that I saw.

SPEAKER_02 49:37

I don't think I that's that's the one that like scares me.

SPEAKER_05 49:41

Well, because it's shot in the as a documentary not as a documentary, that's scares me. It's footage.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

That was I was told that that was a real thing, yeah. Genuine real thing.

SPEAKER_05 49:50

Yeah, and I think I saw it probably because the marketing was so good for that, and that's what that's why they did it. And again, there's no internet around when that came out to debunk all this stuff and go like, guys, it's a fucking film project. What are you? Everyone's like, no, no, this is a real thing.

SPEAKER_02 50:05

Paranormal activity, apparently. I've never seen it, but that was do you know what?

SPEAKER_05 50:09

There is a scene in one of those movies where the the person's in bed and then the covers just get ripped off. Yeah, and as I'm saying that I get goosebumps because that is one of those ones where I've always just been like that. I I think my heart would explode in my chest if that happened. Oh that would terrify me.

SPEAKER_02 50:25

I I I think that's how I die. That my sheet falls off me at night and I just have a poltergeist. I just have a heart attack.

SPEAKER_05 50:33

Oh, poltergeist, the movie. Did you ever see the old movie Poltergeist?

SPEAKER_02 50:36

I took a date to the remake when I was in London, and it cost me about$80,000 because for some reason films in the UK to go to the cinemas$10,000.

SPEAKER_05 50:47

What and they're cheap here? Behave.

SPEAKER_02 50:48

So much cheaper. Yours is pound. It would be like£25 to go.

SPEAKER_05 50:53

I don't, I haven't been there in a very, very long time. Which is doubled. I used to go on Orange Wednesdays for all my old fucks from England back uh watching this. Orange Wednesdays, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

Didn't you have a scam that you guys did?

SPEAKER_05 51:04

Oh, I had a great, it wasn't my scam, but it was such a good scam. So I used to take they used to weigh um sweets, you know, like pick and mix. You used to have to pay by like the fucking ounce, and they were so expensive. But you could buy like a big popcorn and fill it yourself, and that would be like two pounds, for example. So we would fill it with sweets and then just um sprinkle popcorn on top, so it looked like it was full of popcorn. Two kilos. It would weigh a ton, and then you would go and just pay for that, and they would just scan it and go, like, I guess two, they wouldn't even scan it. It was those days where you just fucking punch it in because again, old, but it'd be like two pounds, and if if they weighed it, that'd be like that's 26 pounds. Yeah, that was such a good scam.

SPEAKER_02 51:44

Didn't you have one with text messages as well?

SPEAKER_05 51:46

Yeah, they used to send again so long ago, but they used to the Orange Network used to text you this thing saying, Um, like this is uh because you are with Orange, you can get into uh Orange Wednesdays for like two for one or whatever it was. Um, so we just used to change each other's phone numbers in our phone books to Orange Network and just forward the message, and then you would show it at the door and just get in for like half price or whatever it was.

SPEAKER_02 52:12

That's why we can't have nice things.

SPEAKER_05 52:14

I love a good scam. I love a good scam.

SPEAKER_02 52:16

I love a good scam. I think I've already told scams on here though. Definitely said it somewhere because I live with a dude who was like a scam artist, like from the UK when I first lived in the UK.

SPEAKER_05 52:27

Oh, I think we had this on an earlier episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just remind me though.

SPEAKER_02 52:32

Um, he would do a Yellow Pages thing.

SPEAKER_05 52:35

That was the one, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:36

Yeah, did we do it on here?

SPEAKER_05 52:38

I can't remember. Tell it just in case they can hear it again. We'll have to pause here. Um the that was fucking scary. Sorry. You remember it, the Stephen King?

SPEAKER_02 52:49

The original one?

SPEAKER_05 52:50

The original one and the new ones. The new ones are fucking great.

SPEAKER_02 52:53

The new ones are outstanding.

SPEAKER_05 52:55

Um fuck off to all those people like, yeah, no, it's is as good as the original, they're fucking brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

Penny wise, the series is coming out. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_05 53:03

I'll I'll watch that. I will watch that.

SPEAKER_02 53:05

I think they put a lot of money into it too.

SPEAKER_05 53:07

The thing with the new um the new it movies, and then Stranger Things came out, and I was like, Are you what are you guys doing? Because you basically made a series just like it now. Stranger Things is very, very it-ish.

SPEAKER_02 53:22

Yeah, I haven't I've seen a few episodes of that. Uh Stranger Things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 53:28

Yeah. Not your thing.

SPEAKER_02 53:30

No, it is, it'll just freak me out.

SPEAKER_05 53:31

So I think I was watching it at night one time and I was like, nah, oh you are you like full, full sort of pussy when it comes to horror stuff or you know, I can watch movies like The Terrifier. I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_02 53:44

That's the one with Art the Clown, and he literally just will get an axe and split a kid's head open with it. So gruesome is fine.

SPEAKER_05 53:53

Gruesome's fine. But supernatural, fair enough. Yeah, I get you. I get you. No, no, I I think I'm kind of the same. Because supernatural well, for me, watching the um like the gruesome stuff, if it if it was if I was to be like, oh, that is fucking brutal. I'd just be like, it's not real.

SPEAKER_02 54:08

Yeah, that's what yeah, that's why my brain I love the Halloween franchise. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's brilliant. Michael Myers.

SPEAKER_05 54:14

Did we talk about Scream on here before? I think we did. Scream? It's about the Scream movies.

SPEAKER_02 54:18

No, we haven't.

SPEAKER_05 54:19

No, no, thought we talked about that somewhere. Um, I the the very first scream was brilliant. Oh, great. Really, really good.

SPEAKER_02 54:26

Absolutely fantastic. I love a scary, scary movie. Like thriller sort of scary movies and like the oh the franchise, those? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The first cut two were awesome.

SPEAKER_05 54:36

When they I only really remember the first one with the like, take my strong hand. That's the second one. Oh, is that the second one? Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 54:42

Um, so yeah, that I remember I reckon I was 10 and we were looking at movies to go see, and my mum was like, Do you want to see this one? And we were like, Yeah, sure. Scary movie, and we'd only see any ads on TV, yeah. And it was like fucking just sex, sex. I know that would have been so awkward. And when I would have fucking hated that. We're not that family, yeah. It was brutal.

SPEAKER_05 55:08

It was families who are those families are weird families. I'm sorry, but I that's not stuff to be watching with your family.

SPEAKER_02 55:14

My mum said to us, she's like, Do you want to go home?

SPEAKER_05 55:16

And we're just like, I don't want to be here watching this.

SPEAKER_02 55:19

Well, I mean, that was dark. I could we were just like still funny, yeah, yeah. Um, it was one of those things that you're like, yeah, to an age where you're like, I know what that means, yeah. But if I let on, then she'll know that.

SPEAKER_05 55:30

Yeah, I don't want her to know that I know what this means.

SPEAKER_02 55:32

See, that's gonna be a weird thing when obviously Oscar gets to an age where those things start to be curious in his mind and stuff like that, and you're gonna be like Well, it's funny because he was playing a game today, and he said, he said, Oh, that's gay. And I was like, Oh, I need to be listening to the podcast.

SPEAKER_05 55:51

I was like, I know I need to I need to talk to him about that again. I don't I couldn't hear what the other people were saying.

SPEAKER_02 55:55

He was on a headset, and um two dudes sucking each other's dicks, he's like, What is the thing?

SPEAKER_05 55:59

So I said, like, what were you earlier when you were playing? What were you what were you talking about? What that's gay? You said oh that's gay. He went, Oh, there was a guy who said that he doesn't like girls, he just likes other guys. And I was like, That's gay. And I was like, That is gay. However, you're playing Minecraft, that's also kind of gay. Um, yeah, I thought that was quite funny because I was like, I need to talk to him about that. And then he told me, and I was like, Oh, that by definition, you're absolutely correct. And he wasn't saying it like a pejorative, like we often I've grown up using it as a as a basically an insult.

SPEAKER_02 56:34

But we did it and still do it. It's never about someone's sexuality, everything never even comes into my mind, like him saying it like that. I'm just like, is it? Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah, like mine as all and that's the big argument that people be like, yeah, but you're using as a pejorative term, blah blah blah blah. But it's like, don't be gay, like just fucking listen to what I'm saying. I'm not using it that way, yeah. But there's also like there's things that I won't say now because it's obviously like you know, in the last episode, I was like bang chong, bang chong. But also, too, that's what they say, but I didn't say anything other, you know. I mean, I wasn't like those fucking blah blah blah blah blah bang chongs.

SPEAKER_05 57:19

Yeah, all right, we got out of that one. Um that's gay.

SPEAKER_02 57:27

But like, yeah, I'll I that will still come out of my mouth now.

SPEAKER_05 57:30

Gay?

SPEAKER_02 57:30

Yeah, I'm just like oh fuck, that's gay.

SPEAKER_05 57:32

Yeah, but I never ever it doesn't even click into my head that I'm referring to it as yeah, well that's the thing, because again, we grew up saying it all the time, saying it to each other as kids, but genuinely it was never a but like uh we again, yeah, you don't really think of it like that ever.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

But I also got grew up with being called a retard all the time.

SPEAKER_05 57:56

Yeah, same, same. That was thrown around. I think I think we said it in the last episode. Um, or maybe even this one. The episode's called it.

SPEAKER_02 58:02

I wanted to call the podcast the name. The name of the podcast is gonna be called that. Two retards on a couch. But um my dad used to always go like I'd do something dumb and he would go clap. And I go, what? And he'd go clap, and then you'd clap and you go, look, a retarded seal. He wasn't a good dad, right? Funny dad, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean that's legit. People have asked, like, oh, where do you think you get your sense of humor from? And I'm like, Well, I wasn't molested, uh so dad, I guess. Funny dad, fat. That's the two for me. Um but get it. Um as for ghosts, yeah. I'm sick of those bastards. I don't I can watch horrible things. Like you could literally show me a video of someone getting beheaded, and it'd be real, and I'd be like, Have you ever seen like the You don't have to whisper? It's like ghosts in there.

SPEAKER_05 58:56

Have you ever seen like the ISIS videos and stuff on the Al-Qaeda stuff? Like, holy fuck. Someone showed me one once where it was like a a group of like prisoners in a in a row, and they had explosives around their necks and a fuse that just went and each head went in a row. And I was like, what in the fuck is why is this? I didn't know what I was watching at first. I didn't think this was a real thing.

SPEAKER_03 59:19

It's a cartoon, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 59:20

No, I thought well, I thought it was just a you know, like a movie scene or something, and then they're like, This is a thing that they got from I don't know, like Al Jazeera or something. I was like, You mean I just watched like fucking eight people die in a row?

SPEAKER_02 59:32

Eight journalists be murdered?

SPEAKER_05 59:34

That's crazy. Do you got more? Yeah, and then there was another one where the where they were putting people in cages and then just drowning them in in cages.

SPEAKER_02 59:41

Like my worst nightmare. I'd rather get blown up, like head.

SPEAKER_05 59:45

I would want a quick death for sure.

SPEAKER_02 59:46

Quick death. The um drowning sounds or the or just knowing you're gonna the I remember there was always a video of like a dude obviously I don't know what he was saying.

SPEAKER_05 59:58

Always a video? They would have had to make it somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:00

Well this the video that I saw in high school when we like Nokia would have been one of the first camera phones, sort of blah blah blah, when videos are more accessible.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:12

So you would have been out of high school when even video uh color I was in I was in college in '99, 2000, and we didn't have camera phones.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

Yeah. So we my the back end of my school was uh colored phones, and I still remember someone showing me a video of a dude with like the tiniest knife, it was like this big, and then he cuts off a dude's head in like record time. But also the video wasn't great. Now I could record that in 4K. Yeah, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:44

Are you saying you want them to remake that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they probably are.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:47

Yeah, um, there's a few sequels and prequels, but that sort of thing, it would always go. There would you watch some horrendous video, and then someone who showed you go, don't worry, rapist. It's like, ah, cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:04

Yeah, sweet. They got rid of the. So not only does he bad people, he also rapes people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:10

Yeah, they would actually told us which one. Yeah, which one was there's a famous video of the cartel chopping off a two dudes leaning against a like a brick wall, and they've obviously got their hands tied up, and one's got a chainsaw.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:25

And he literally starts to chop off one guy's head as he's leaning next to the other dude that can't move, and the other guy's just like the scariest part of it is I think the dude who's going like is about to go. Like he's blood is spraying all over him. But once again, those videos are pretty brutal. They're all we're lucky that the cameras but that this shit has been happening forever. I know, it's documenting it now. We literally used to chop each other up with swords all the time. Yeah, that's the scary thing. It is, but it's brutal. Like obviously, there would be I haven't seen it, but I assume I I stay away from that stuff now because there's just no point for me watching it.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:04

Oh, I watch it all the time. Oh no, I don't. But I tell you why. Sorry, go on. I'll tell you what.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:08

I was just gonna say there would be horrendous things coming out of Russia Ukraine, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:13

But also, there's a lot of people. And Palestine and idiot soldiers just taking selfies and going, yeah, yeah. Um, which I don't know what's worse, to be honest. Yeah, I don't want to you being an influencer while you're in the army, I would rather watch you just fucking cut people's arms.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:28

That's the big one. Obviously, their videos, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:31

Do you know what sometimes I fall down these little rabbit holes on there's there's plenty of Twitter and Instagram accounts, a lot of Twitter uh Twitter accounts because Instagram ones will get banned, but of like just just fights. Oh yeah, I hate admitting this to you, right? But I'll find an account and it will have you know like fucking 300 videos posted over the course of like its lifetime, and I'll just watch every single one of them. Because sometimes it's sometimes it's really satisfying to see somebody like just get knocked out.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:01

I like instant karma videos, yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:04

But what I hate is like instant karma, and I'm like, this video is four minutes long, huh?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:09

There's nothing instant about this, and also like with context, you don't always know. But like, say for example, I remember seeing this one video where the dude is like he tries to pull somebody out of their car and he's like going mad and stuff, and then the guy just turns his car off, gets out, and then just beats the living fuck out of him.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:23

I was like, I've seen so many of those where it's you think that's gonna happen, yeah, and then all of a sudden it's like and the dude runs away and falls over, and you're like, Oh, he just died. Like someone just shot him. But also, too, what's your thoughts on guns? Um, I like if they were like, we're gonna bring in handguns to Australia, you can own one.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:47

I'd I like living in a country where that's not really a thing. Because I I would like I I would like to think I would just keep not having them and not wanting anything to do with them. But if I thought everybody had one, I'd be like, wait, do I need to get a gun then?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:01

But obviously that's a recipe for fucking disaster as well. I know people who like to shoot. I have good friends who like to go out and shoot. They go clay pigeon shooting, they go hunting, they they love, they love guns. One of my friends, Steve, makes his own bullets, it's one of his favorite fucking things to do. Does he have a gun? Yeah, he's got he's got a lot of guns. Um, but he and he likes to hunt and stuff, but he likes also to make the bullets himself, it's just a thing that he enjoys doing. I'm like, all right, well, I appreciate the craft and stuff in that. He's got a shotgun that's worth a fucking fortune because it's been shipped all around the world and is engraved and all this sort of stuff. He he's a big, you know, he's he's big into guns. Whereas I think most people would just get a gun and go, well, this is for the next person who comes my way. Like if guns were a thing. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:45

No courtesy wave.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:46

Yeah, yes, exactly. Well, that's warranted though. Do you know what I mean? I know they it's that that idea scares the fuck out of me.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:52

If I had that gun when that Asian lady was like, hey, fucking.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:55

Oh yeah, you'd be on the news now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:57

When I she was like, How do I get here?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:59

And I'm gonna go to heaven, but also you wanted to get a spot tonight, and there was too many people uh on the lineup that had just rocked up like last minute. So you probably would have used about seven bullets just this evening. True if you had a gun.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:14

Also, I would have got there in time. If it wasn't for her, yeah. Well that took me fucking an extra ten minutes. That was last episode. Um have you fired a handgun? Uh no, no, I haven't. So when I was in Alaska 2018.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:31

Sorry, I fired a rifle, I killed a cow. That was it. Sorry, go on, gone.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:35

Um yeah, I it was funny. We went to this massive glacier. We did a hike and then a glacier, which is weird. It was in summer. There's a glacier just there in summer.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:46

I did that in New Zealand, it was fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

And it was awesome. And then we were like, how the fuck do we get home? And we met like a group of like Americans that were like testing emergency equipment because they ran tours.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:00

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:00

And they were like, Yeah, follow us. And we were like, fucking oath.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:04

Because how else are we gonna get home?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:05

Yeah, we we walked, there's no track. It was like jumping rocks and this and that. And you'd follow these little pink markers tied around trees. So we met those guys, we came back with them, and I was like, Boys, you say this. We're going to have dinner at our friend who we were staying with. She was a waitress at a really nice pizza place. Whoever wants to come, I'll buy pizzas. Things cost two dollars.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:33

But one guy came, younger dude, it was lovely, Andrew, and um we were chatting. And I was like, Oh, Caitlin tomorrow's taking us to the ranch. He's like, Oh, cool. What sort of guns does she have? And I was like, No idea. He's like, I bought my nine millimeter with me. I can meet you guys there if you want to shoot a handgun. And I was like, This is the best day ever. That's all I wanted to do. So she had like some crazy deer hunting rifle. Yeah. Every time I shot her, it hurt my arm or shoulder. So I was like, this is fucking gay. Because you have a gun license, right? I do, yeah. I mean, oh no, no, I used to. I grew up shooting guns and stuff. Now all your guns are illegal. Uh brother still has a license. Okay. Yep. And uh, so we went out there, he brings the handgun, I'm shooting the handgun. The dude next to us was just like fascinated with mine and Alex's accents. My Australian buddy I was with. He's like, Where are you guys from? And we're like, Australia. We are Korean. Um, and then they he was just like, Do you want to shoot my guns? And I was like, Yeah. He had the craziest shit. He had like tiny little handguns and these like machine guns and shit. It was fucking crazy. Honestly, I had two, I've got a photo of it. And we've got, I think, a nine millimeter and a 22 um handgun with like a suppressor on it. Everyone's gonna be like, oh 22, man. Obviously, it kills the most amount of people, I believe, in the world because their bullets are so cheap. Obviously, people buy them, but it's a pussy gun. Once I got those guns in my hand, I felt so powerful. Genuinely, like I was like, I could take on the world. I honestly, if you said Tate, would you like to own a handgun? No. Because I would be a tyrant. Fucking hell. I would be. People would be like, hey, you can't do that. And I'd be like, eh?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:30

My friends in Vietnam all fired like the AKs and stuff at the um we were at some like site where obviously they had a big cache of guns and the tanks and stuff, I forget where it was exactly, but you there was a thing, you could just pay a little bit of money, you go fire a bunch of machine guns, and they all did it. And I was like, I'm fine. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:49

Yeah. So when one of my mates was there, I think it was Cambodia, and I've heard this story multiple times, but my mate, you know, still swears by this. He goes, Yeah, yeah, we were gonna go shoot some guns, right? And uh the guy was like, You wanna shoot some targets? And they were like, Yeah. He's like, You wanna shoot a cow with a bazooka? And he was like, Nah. He's like, You wanna shoot a person? He's like, huh? He's like, Yeah, we get one of the and then we just take him out and you guys can shoot him. And he was like, No, we're good. And they never went, holy fuck. Yeah, and I've heard it like on I've heard the bazooka one, I think maybe Xavier. Alright, but that's a cow. They they find somebody who what is like a village, like a fo like because there's obviously dirt poor, really, really, really poor. Jesus Christ. Yeah, and they'd take him out and shoot 'em. Oh, that's a great idea. Yeah. I mean it's still with homeless people at least. Oh fucking hell. That's also the same the same person was telling us that he was in Cambodia. He was at his like ho um hostel type thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:05

Uh great horror films. Sorry, go on.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:07

Yeah, uh, yeah, they're brutal, those ones. I think that's something to do with Tarantino.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:12

Like uh I think he directed a few scenes in the first one.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:16

Yeah, okay. So Tuk Took roll rolls up for the people. Probably wrong.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:19

I'm thinking of Sin City. Never mind. Sorry, go on.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:21

Uh rolls up Tuk Took, he's like the motorbike with the little carriage on the back. And um they were like, hey, you want some girls? And they're like, nah, we're all good, mate. He's like, You want some kids? He's just like, no. He's like, okay. And then literally, they reckons Tuk Took comes back with like two eight-year-olds or something in the back, and they're like, eh? And they're like, get the fuck out of here, cut.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:48

Um, and then just drove off, and they were like, Those kids are fucking yeah, so I remember I did see a lot of that in lots of different parts of Southeast Asia, which I know is just a fucking stereotypical thing, but whatever. You would see just just girls that look like they were just too fucking young to be out at certain times and be attached to like men's arms. Always Westerners thing. This is the thing, like those people that come up and go, hey, do you want do you want fucking kids or whatever? Like the problem is a lot of yeah, a lot of people fucking do these weird fucking fat American and English cunts or whatever are going there, and that's the reason that they go there.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:28

Yeah, fucking you know, blow up a cow or you know, shoot a person in the head by all means.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:33

Leave the kids alone. That's disgusting.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:35

It is very strange. Well, ladies and gentlemen, on that note, yeah. Uh this is the end of the episode. Yeah, got a bit dark there at the end, but um, you know. Let's finish it. Let's finish on a we don't pigeonhole ourselves, mate.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:50

Hey, you said it. Let's finish on a high note. Let's finish on a colourful note. Um, yeah, you did, didn't you? A few of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

I got nothing.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:59

I got The Simpsons is also a great TV show. There you go. So is Futurama. We'll leave it on that. Colourful cartoons.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:05

Cartoons are actually like I I watch a fair few cartoons. You do, don't you? Rick and uh not Rick and Morty's obviously really good, but um fuck. What's it called? Avenger Time Sick and Regular Show. I don't know if Oscar's ever watched any of those. No, regular show's really good. War Kai and Rigby. It's so funny.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:26

I have watched some of it. What was the one that you told me about not too long ago? I was telling you about ugly Americans and how much they love it, and then you found one.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:33

I sent him a message, I tell you that.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:35

Who could the director? Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Make more.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:39

Yeah, I sent him a message saying, like, hey man, um, because he's got like 1600 like sub like followers, something tiny, yeah. Or 4,000, whatever.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:51

But somebody made like the best, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:52

And I was like, hey man, uh, just if you're bored, do you reckon you could just make another season? Cheers, and that was it.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:58

If you got nothing else going on, he never I love it so much.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:02

I love ugly Americans so much. Uh that's one of the most underrated so funny. If you take anything away from this podcast episode, to watch Ugly Americans, yeah. That's it.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:12

Cat Metzger is uh Randall's voice, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:16

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:17

Um, but what was the other one? Sorry, just quickly before we go, what was the other TV show that you found something and his something and his it was an animated show and it was like a um a fucking what was it like a a a wizard or some shit or wizard, wizard, wizard, wizard. Like a demon hunter? What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:36

Gary and his demons. Gary and his demons. There you go.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:40

That was good. It's really good. That was good. Yeah. I haven't watched too much of it, but I was like, oh, this is this is very ugly American esque.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:46

The second season's rated R. Oh yeah, it gets out real dark. It's so funny. Go and watch some shows, you fucks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:53

Bye. Right.