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Ep 18 Pigeon Holed Podcast - The Catch Up

Tait and David

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Welcome to episode 18 of the Pigeon Holed Podcast - The boys catch up after 5 weeks off the podcast, Tait discuses sleeping on his mates couch, David gets back from gigging in Sydney and Melbourne, Tait talks about the rural mining tour he just did for a week and much more.

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Dave and Tait

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, welcome back to the Green Shirt Pod. It's been a while, hasn't it, Tate? It is. Not for them, obviously, but for us. We haven't had a chance to do this for about four, five weeks.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's probably closer to five minutes.

SPEAKER_00

That's why we were banking them. That is true. Because I've been away doing shows over East in Melbourne and Sydney. Then I got back and you were doing a mining tour. Yep. Then it was a school holiday, so I was with my son all the time. And now fucking kids. A couple of fucking reprobates back on the couch.

SPEAKER_01

It's also my bed.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's your bed, yes, that's right. So we we um we don't really discuss this actually on the pod, but um where we do the studio, we also allow Tate's friend Todd to live. It is technically his apartment. Um and you currently are sleeping on his couch while you wind down your stay in WE. Yeah, only got uh been a fucking fruitful one this time, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_01

It has, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry, go on. You've only got how long?

SPEAKER_01

Just over three weeks left, which is a long time on a couch, let's be honest. It is. Um, but it's it's quite a comfortable couch, though.

SPEAKER_00

It's not the worst, I guess.

SPEAKER_01

They it's not too bad. That's why I've I I've slept on this couch so many times.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, but it's one of those ones where like you do like other 35. I've had a birthday since um Oh, yeah, happy birthday.

SPEAKER_00

Last weekend, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01

Uh a few weeks ago.

SPEAKER_00

No, it was last like last weekend.

SPEAKER_01

All right, we'll go with that. Um and then yeah, it's just by the like week two or three, you're like, oh, my spine hurts. Yeah, sleeping on the couch.

SPEAKER_00

Um, because we were chatting about the um the cardboard thing that you had for me when I was in Melbourne. So I the last time I was the first time I went to Melbourne to do shows, I stayed with you, and then you had this uh I think it was the one that they were using for like the Olympic Games, wasn't it? Yeah, I think it's like that was where the idea came from, and it's a cardboard, like corrugated cardboard thing. It's like an accordion. Yeah, basically, because it just unfolds, doesn't it? Yeah, and I remember you telling me, I was like, ah, same thing, because I was like, I wonder if that's gonna be uncomfortable. Because if it is uncomfortable and I can't sleep, my priority, and the only reason going to Melbourne was to do the comics lounge for the first time. That was like massively important to me. I was like, I don't want to be tired and feeling like shit for that. Um, but luckily that was fucking comfortable. Yeah, I mean, like I was saying to you, it was so comfortable. How often did I go back to bed for naps? Which I do call like I can't function without a nap during the day.

SPEAKER_01

It was my company. He was like, I got it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I was like, I'm done with this guy.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, it is it was it worked. I mean, you just don't have much space on a couch. It's a big couch, though. But you you think about how much you actually like spread your arms out and stuff. When you get a wall and it doesn't go straight down, it goes like that.

SPEAKER_00

So you sort of your elbow starts to hit and so basically what you're saying is that Todd's an arsehole for buying this couch. Yeah, it's uh be better, Todd.

SPEAKER_01

But no, it's been fantastic. I save a lot of money. Um, and then I'm officially booked to go to Canada.

SPEAKER_00

Canada, baby!

SPEAKER_01

Um October 21st. Yeah. So another couch, most likely. I'm staying at my mate's house for a lot longer.

SPEAKER_00

And Canada, you've been reaching out to rooms and stuff to do shows when you're over there or not yet.

SPEAKER_01

I will. I wanted to get I don't even know I'm trying to think of the things that were spoken about, but I think in the time since we've last done a pod to today, yeah, that oh I came to WA in search of Pro Spots at the lounge. And you got them. And I got them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I don't think we had yeah, because I think it has been about five weeks, and I know around that time that when we were recording, you and I uh, you know, probably off the pod, we're talking about all that sort of stuff, but I don't think it really come to fruition. No, but yeah, but to put the listener in the in the picture, yeah, you um you've already done one. Uh you did the Fremantle Lounge a few weeks back, didn't you? Yeah. And then you got the City one, which is the big one. The city's like for those of you who don't know the Perth comedy scene, we have like two, we have the comedy lounge, and which is branded, and then you have the they have two rooms, one in Fremantle, which is where we are right now, and then another one in the city, and the city's like the one where it's just the biggest pro night we have. And it's it's like a five show uh weekend as well, so it's fucking great. Great money, it's great stage time, it's the best club. It's fucking amazing.

SPEAKER_01

There's only realistically three in Australia that we have, which is insane when you think about like premier rooms. It's insane that they've let me do them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you've done all three now, and you you did your second run. So we might as well go straight into that. So when how was Sydney to the store? Sydney is the comedy store.

SPEAKER_00

Sydney is fucking unbelievable. I know you've been there, like you've seen the you've seen the thing, and I think when I was there, I I said to you about the other room that they've built out the back now. Yeah, I haven't seen that one. Which to think that there was room to have another, it's like a 150-seater room.

unknown

Crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Because like when they said, like, oh, have you seen the the other room? And I'm looking at the building and stuff, and I'm like, oh, it must be like a little broom cupboard type thing. Well, yeah, but I was like, it must be a tiny little thing, and then you go in there and it's like our comedy lounge in this place. I'm like, this is your extra room, yeah, because the main stage, which you have been to, is uh, I think it's about 250 or 300 seater. Um and it's like our lounge, but on steroids, it's crazy. That is, I think, for all intents and purposes, that's probably the best setup I've ever been a part of. Yeah, it was crazy, and the shows were fucking amazing too. The acts were incredible. I gigged with um Anthony Salome, which I think he was here about two weeks before I went over there. Oh no, I wasn't talking to you about him, sorry, I was talking to Evan. Evan, Evan gigged with him at the lounge, and he was like, Oh, he's really funny, but he's just a lovely, lovely dude. And he really is. He's fucking he's fantastic. Um, yeah, it was they were great, and then back to Melbourne for the for the second run, which is I think I was saying to you at the time, like like planning it. Yeah, like every anyone can get one run, it's getting that second run, and that was the one that I was like super nervous about, just just getting, and then as soon as it was booked in, I could kind of relax. And I know we were talking about it on the phone too. Like, this one was way, it was it was way more fun. I could enjoy it more. I could relax and go, like, all right, well, this isn't an audition now. Like, the store was an audition. Again, it's hard to get that first run, but you can get a first run if you fuck it up. Good luck getting another one.

SPEAKER_01

See, that's that's me, because we didn't mention that you and I are actually both on the show next week. We are both on the show. Pretty like it's awesome. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_00

When when you sent me the dates, and I because you he you got your dates, and then I I didn't have anything booked in, and then he messaged, I think, what, like a couple of hours later and go, Can you lock these dates in? And I immediately cross-referenced and I was like, Holy shit, 15th and 16th, we're doing the same weekend. I was so pleased about that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, my debut in your a thousand a thousandth time there, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I don't think I think that I've done our lounge more than any other room, probably now, which is pretty incredible. Uh again, very lucky, but yeah, it's it's uh I love that room. I love it. It's still super intimidating for me. Like every time I walk in there, my heart rate does go up a little bit, regardless of what I'm there for. Yeah, I've gone there just to meet him, and I'm like, I'm getting really nervous.

SPEAKER_01

See all the pictures on the wall. You've already got your picture on the wall, which is pretty impressive.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's another one that I'm always really like every time I walk up those stairs and I see my picture and I'm like, oh yeah, that is that is a cool thing. It is, and I know it's a very superficial thing, but when that went up, I was like, oh man, like not like oh, I've made it so nothing like that, but just seeing it, I was like, I'm up there with some of the best fucking comedians in the country in the world.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, yeah, it's like Jim Jeffries and massive, massive acts on there.

SPEAKER_00

I love seeing um, and obviously I like seeing that because I'm on it, but I also love it when you go to another comedy club, so like the store have got them.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's cool. The store that like dated and it's all their posts. That's why I like it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think it's so cool. And then the the comics lounge in Melbourne has the same thing, like out the back, there's uh there's a Polaroid wall with just every big comedi everyone from fucking Louis CK and Sam Tallon and you know to our like killers like fucking Muggleton and Andrew Wolf and stuff. Like it's oh man, I love every time I'm there, I just look at that wall for like half an hour.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you see someone, you're like, oh fuck, they were here, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I also didn't realize too that it's alphabetized.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so it's but it's with their first name, so it's like Arj Barker, Andrew. You know what I mean? Like it's like that. Um that's so annoying.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I think it's full when you actually can't put any more in there from memory that like that wall. That's what I think space was.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, it was, but then when I saw it this time, like so many of them were taken down, and I think so. I think they're making a new new space for them. I realize this is super boring for anyone just going like, oh wow, pictures on a wall. That sounds cool, guys. It is, it is cool. It's so cool. Because you see, like your you know, some of them are your peers, and then some of them are people that you have been watching or idolizing for fucking forever. Yeah, like to think that I was in the same room that Louis CK was in, I get goosebumps.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the same room that Louis CK jerked off in is crazy.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's crazy that I jerked off in as well. It's like what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01

It yeah, it all that sort of stuff. It's like, well, I that was their trajectory to a certain point, and you've hit that mark and ticked it off. So it is pretty cool. Uh so Sydney, Melbourne, anything ordinary happened out of the blue, any interesting things?

SPEAKER_00

Do you know what? This time I actually I took very much uh a Louis CK approach. Um and I just I wanked everywhere.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, would you like to watch me do comedy?

SPEAKER_00

No. Um, no, as in so when I when I went to Melbourne the first time, you and I spent all our time together, like I was with you all the time, and it was great, but it was a very different way that I usually do things because I'm quite a solitary person. Um, and I'd uh I'd heard Louise D.K. talking about how he starves himself of like social interaction and all this sort of stuff, so that every all the excitement comes from just doing the gig and then and then wanking in the hotel room afterwards, I guess.

SPEAKER_01

All the excitement, but the main I'm bursting with excitement. It's like, yeah, we've seen it, man. It's in that pop plant.

SPEAKER_00

But the main, yeah, I think that was one of the one of the things. Like I I was by myself the whole time, apart from the last probably like half a week or so in Melbourne. I stayed with a a comic um over there, but the rest of it was just completely me by myself, and it was nice because I just got to read, write, sleep, yeah, uh, and then but the only focus was the shows. Yeah. Because people sometimes be like, Oh, how come you don't take your family with you? I'm like, because it's a it's a work trip, yeah, and this way I don't have to worry about entertaining anyone or oh, what we're doing today. Because I can't just I can't just sleep for fucking all day if I really want to, if I have my wife and my child with me. We we're gonna go and do stuff, yeah. So um it's a different time. Pure comedy. It was yeah, and I got to really especially this, like I said, Sydney. I was quite nervous about again the whole audition thing. Um so that was my only I didn't have to worry about anything else. I did minimal work while I was away. Don't worry about that. Um but I just uh yeah, I just fucking slept and and kind of went over my stuff and then went and did the shows.

SPEAKER_01

It seemed to work, it seemed like every show was good.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was really good. I had some amazing feedback, so I'm happy about that. Anyway, enough about me. You did a you did a mining tour, which I've never done. Like I've done mine sites, but you did a whole tour. So you talk me through that? You left.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. So we left on a early Monday, drove for I think 11 hours to get to I couldn't even remember where the place is, like out back Western Australia to a mining site.

SPEAKER_00

North, right?

SPEAKER_01

It's just all yeah, making slowly making our way up to Caratha. Yeah. So if you look on a map from Perth to Caratha, which is about 20 hours or something? Something ridiculous like that. It's like a drive. 16 or 17 hours, which on the Sunday, the following Sunday, we did that entire drive in the one day. So which is the equivalent from I'd just say Victoria to Los Angeles in a plane. Like you know, that's that's how long we were in.

SPEAKER_00

Because the actual flight Perth to Caratha, Xavier and I did it when we did that one gig up there. I think that's just like an hour. Yeah, yeah. So as soon as a plane like reaches its height, it's coming back down again.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it would have been nice.

SPEAKER_00

Um you didn't like being sat in a car for fucking half a day.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it was more than brutal. So start on the Monday, chuff up to the gig. It's me, uh, the guy who runs it, another comedian called Jeremy Dooley. Um, his uncle is Chris Dooley, who actually runs it. Yeah, runs stuff on Chris before he's a good dude. Yep. And then uh I opened for Jeremy for his one of his weeks with Melbourne International Comedy Festival. So got him there, and then he vouched for me, and then Xavier, our buddy, vouched for me as well. So I got him there. And another pro comic uh Christian. Yeah. So I was like just the ring-in, you know, those three are all pretty established. Yeah. Um, especially like Chris in that world of mining and stuff, he's been doing it for a long time. So yeah, shot up there, um, first gig.

SPEAKER_00

It goes to show that how important people, good people vouching for you is.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, I got like uh the most money I've ever made in comedy in a week. Yeah. And it was realistically, I think I was telling you, I it took me fucking like, you know, ten years to make probably about five grand, and I made most of that in a week. Most of yeah, probably more than half of that in a week.

SPEAKER_00

I think the thing that we were uh relating it to was sometimes you do uh like a shop fitting job, and I think the money was comparable to that, wasn't it? Yeah, and when you think about how long the days are when you're doing that job, because again, we you would be on the other side of the country, but we talk on a phone and you would be working like 13, 14 hour days, yeah, and at the end of it, like getting good money, but like also the with the hours that you were doing, it's like it's it's about what you would expect money-wise for the amount of hours that you were doing. It's just like you had that opportunity to work earn that much money, and then you think like I know it was a lot of travel and stuff, but you're on stage for like 15-20 minutes a night, yeah, and making the same thing. Yeah, it's unreal.

SPEAKER_01

Um, and then yeah, it was it was tough, I won't lie, in terms of like the gigs, because these mole people have been living in the earth for 12 hours, yeah. They wander they wander up to the the surface. Um, it's like fucking um what's that TV show? The wombles I'm thinking. Oh yeah, Fallout, Fallout. Fraggle Rock's a much better reference. Wasn't some extremely attractive woman. Um, but they were all, yeah, just like what you would expect. Uh oh, sorry, you're talking about mine.

SPEAKER_00

You were talking about the extremely attractive woman in Fallout. I was thinking of the female Fraggle because for whatever reason some of them are kind of hot.

SPEAKER_01

I know they're puppets, but like I don't even know what a frag I know of a fragile, but I can't.

SPEAKER_00

Fraggle Rock was uh one of my favourite shows when I was a kid. It's probably before your time. Um, in fact, it would be. But anyway, uh so also um, yeah, so the weirdos come well, not weirdos, but the the people coming up for uh from like long shifts and stuff. But you did one in the morning at what like six o'clock? Six a.m. That sounds like hell on if you've never done stand-up before, it's for the night time. Correct?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's fully lit up. Um but it's they're doing they're coming off night shifts. Yeah, so it's there even. So they're drinking, yeah. So they're drinking, like I think I think that site was maybe six full strength beers.

SPEAKER_00

What do you mean? That's the limit, or that's the limit that you're supposed to have, I believe.

SPEAKER_01

And then you can get a sponsor, a reverse sponsor, it should be called, because you can be like, yeah, I'll go and buy my beers for David and be like, here you go.

SPEAKER_00

I'm not drinking. Oh, I gotcha. Which is pretty common knowledge.

SPEAKER_01

I think I don't think I'm letting anything out of the bag here.

SPEAKER_00

At least like they could drink because so you and I did that show in Geraldton, um, which is another fucking quite literally you got back and we drove up another what five hours to to Geraldton and did a gig up there. Super fun though. That was great. But we did it with a guy called uh Brian Shields or Buddha, more affectionately known as. Um and he was talking to us about that that uh what was it, like a ship.

SPEAKER_01

Oh something a rig or something, because they do like they're they're putting pipes down in the ocean.

SPEAKER_00

It sounds amazing because he gets a helicopter ride to this fucking this huge freight ship, whatever. Um, but he was saying that they don't rig an oil rig, yeah. But he was saying that they can't drink at all. No, and he's the reason that he was going was to do comedy shows, so he's doing those comedy shows, some of those in the morning as well, and those guys are not lubricated at all. Nah, there are the money though, holy shit. Well, I'm not gonna say the figure because that's a private thing, but he told us how much he got for what was it, was it a week? Or no, it was like uh 11 days? Yes, am I making that up? Swing, yeah, yeah, 11 days, and I am gonna say no, I'm not but it was I was like, holy shit, that's amazing money.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it is, but this is the thing, also, it's clearly amazing money, but you really gotta work for it because these people are just like we really don't care, yeah. Like you're just our little distraction before we go to bed, yeah. And I need six beers to get to sleep, and I'm not allowed to drink in my room. They probably are actually, but the dongers are so strong. Yeah, yeah. So the rooms are tiny, yeah. Like it's like it's yeah, it's one thing we were told or I was told before, it's just like don't no racism and help me out. Yeah, and um what was it, no racism and don't talk about mental health, like no suicide jokes and stuff like that. Yeah, that's fair. And I was like, my opener's fucking gone. That's your whole set fuck. Um, but yeah, it was pretty like you can see why there's a lot of mental shit there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, I suppose. I mean, it's that that world as like a as a workspace, it I don't know about you, but I've noticed with people here because it's very prevalent here in WA, lots of people it's the biggest, yeah, yeah. But so many, I would meet so many like um you know, guys my age and and much younger actually, but they they do that job, but it it really appears to take over a lot of their personality. Oh yeah, like the whole FIFO mine fucking thing, that's like if you do that and that's been your job for say a year or two, that is most of the shit that you are talking about and thinking about, like or the guys that I know that like say, for example, guys that I go to the gym with or just at the gym or whatever, if they're FIFO people, they fucking tell you immediately and it's all they talk about, it's their whole lives. I have one friend though who was telling me that he the he he does it and he makes great money. And he goes, If I could get a job doing the same sort of stuff in the city for like even 20 to 30 percent less, I would take it. Yeah, because it it's just impossible to find those jobs because they're paid so well for doing what they what they do out there.

SPEAKER_01

Some of them do get paid really well in terms of like the hourly rate, but like your Joe Schmo can go up there cleaner, get like 36 bucks an hour, which is like you know, it's decent money, yeah. But you do a 12-hour day.

SPEAKER_00

Well, this is what we were talking about with the with the shop fitting stuff. It's like you you were you were making decent money, but it's the fact that you were doing 12, 14-hour days. So that adds up. Yeah, I mean, that's fucking illegal.

SPEAKER_01

I'm sure it's um the minds, but it's um it is one of those ones where you're like, yeah, this your work stinks. Have a laugh, boys, and three random ladies. But when they were up for it, they were up for it, it was super fun. But some of them were genuinely fucking like tough.

SPEAKER_00

I think it's good to go in there knowing that though, can you and not having like high expectations.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I will say to anyone who sort of asks, and I'll be honest with them because I think I'd have to, and I wouldn't vouch for a lot of people, to be fair, because there's a lot of like newer comics who'd be like the money geeks, I'd love to do that. And I'm like, in my head, I might you'll die. You're you're yeah, you are I can tell you now you might not be able to do that. Yeah, no, you you could you could do it, but then you choose not to.

SPEAKER_00

But I also I think that I wouldn't do as well as like as as someone like you, because you are very you talk to them and you're in the pocket with them. I like to just do my material. I don't really like chatting to the crowd, and I think you've got to be um a bit yeah, a bit more fluid and and looser to to do those kind of kind of shows because I'm guessing they want to be fucking chatting.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they do, they want to be like, who's this fuck with the channel? Yeah, it's more of a sort of thing. But I mean, if it came to you know, hey, Buddha reaches out and goes, come do this oil rig one with me, you're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, and to be I'll be honest with you too, and I said this to you when he mentioned it. I would do it not not purely for how good the money is, and it is fucking good, but I would do it for the just being in that environment, just to kind of I'm I'm so curious. So curious to see what that would be like.

SPEAKER_01

It's also scary. I don't like it.

SPEAKER_00

It is scary, it's terrifying.

SPEAKER_01

Like we're on land, being on a massive ship like that would be terrifying. Like helicopter ride. Like if you crash into the ocean, like it's uh it's good night.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

What a way to go. You'd make the front page though. Yeah, like a promising emerging comedian.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no, you'd be you'd be like the greatest comedian to ever come out of Australia because they always hype this shit up. I saw I saw this news article. It's obviously it's tragic because he died, but they basically described him as like the best man. That had ever lived. Hulk Hogan? No, it was it was like it was just some guy that you've never heard of. But he passed away and he passed away young. And obviously, like I'm not having I'm not making fun here. It's of course it's I am. It's it's of course it's tragic, but like the why do they do that in the newspapers? Like I think it quite literally was Australia's nicest bloke. Oh pass away passes away at the young age of like you know 20 something or whatever. Heartbreaking. But like where's the headline where we where's like fuckwit? Fuckwit dies. Like when I when I die minor. When I if I die like you know in a couple of years, like absolute fuckwit dies at 45. No one's bothered. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's uh it yeah, I guess uh what is there? There's a term for it. Don't speak ill the dead, is that it? Yeah, you're not supposed to anyway. Oh, I guess because they can't fucking fight back. But also too, like, you know, there's a lot of people that fucking who are dead, and I'm like, you stink. I can't think of like Hitler, he won great. No, I mean that's I think I've seen that joke. It's like the one person you can sort of slag off is Hitler. Everyone's just like, and you can no holds barred, you can say anything you want about him. Yeah, he's like, he likes getting shit on.

SPEAKER_00

But like I do I I do think it's um what do I it it it's not funny, it's just I'll see people like when Ozzy Osborne dies, right? And suddenly everybody is his biggest fan. Yeah, he's the greatest person that has ever lived to so many people. But like all my I have so many friends that were like, oh man, he was an inspiration to me, he was this. You've never mentioned him, you've never mentioned him ever once, not once ever in your fucking life. I don't think you've even said his name out loud before. True, but because he's dead, it's like oh man, whatever. And I get it, pay your respects, I get it. But can you just do it quietly? Like, you don't need to do it on Facebook so that everyone sees.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that that is very strange. I've got a weirder one for why do people do it when when a hot like actress or singer or something like that gets a partner or married, I'm like, fuck. Then we can't, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like now I now I don't have a chance.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, it could, I could have met her somewhere, like it's so I genuinely have those feelings every time.

SPEAKER_00

But well, this is the thing that it not only is that a genuine like thing, I I know that like publicists in the past got like you know, say for example, like models or or whatever, they they got them to hide some of their relationships because YouTubers, yeah, yes, yes, because they don't want people to think that that person's unattainable or has his other other life or whatever. It doesn't have a chart. Yeah, weird, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's weird, but yeah, but it's always women. I suppose, yeah. Yeah, because dudes are like fuck this dudes are insane, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like I'm literally only fucking watching you because one day I'd hope that you'd see.

SPEAKER_00

One day I will meet you, yeah, yeah. Um, whereas I guess women are probably more likely to go, like, oh wow, he's a really attractive guy, probably married. Yeah, probably got a partner, probably.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, also, too. Uh it's a different thing for fucking women when they see a single dude. Because I've been single the majority of my life, yeah. And girls have been like, uh, that's a bit of a red flag. And I'm like, okay. That is yeah, everywhere, and I kind of do see it.

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah, but also on the on the flip side of that too, like when you're in a in a relationship and you you switch off you know the game, I guess, like you stop being you know, but I guess when you're when you're single and you're looking, it comes across when you interact with girls. That's why I just don't and they pick up on it. Yeah, but when you're not looking, I think they're like, what the fuck is this guy's problem? Why isn't he interested in me? I'm fucking hot. Then I think the they dial up their interest because I definitely got more like when I was younger, especially, I got way more interest when I was happily in a in a relationship.

SPEAKER_01

They can smell it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They go, This guy's happy, let me fuck this up.

SPEAKER_01

He's someone, I think he's he's someone's already.

SPEAKER_00

Now I want him. I didn't want him before, but now I want him.

SPEAKER_01

And it's that thing that you do want, you do want the things that you can't have. And there's always those things of like girls of you know, those vox pops and stuff, and they're like, Yeah, it's like my best friend, but like, you know, when he starts to get close to a girl, I might start some shit and start some shit, and then she'll fuck off, and then because I don't know, maybe I want to date him one day. But I hope you get hit by a train, you can't.

SPEAKER_00

I had a I had a girlfriend back in England, we were only together for about like a year, maybe, right? Um, and she had a best guy friend, which I do think's a bit strange, right? I'm sorry, but like because she was very attractive, and I was like, he does want to fuck you. There's no way that he doesn't, there's no fucking way. And she was like, Yeah, but I'm not attracted to him. Um, it's not a not a thing. We've known each other since we were kids, blah blah nothing would ever happen. They are now married with children.

SPEAKER_01

See, that's fucking I I've I it's funny. I remember my ex-missus having the same chat with her and be like, She's like, Oh, I had this guy friend and that guy's friend, and blah blah blah. Yeah, and I'm like, Oh, you've had a lot of guy friends, and I'm like, Oh, why don't you hang around with this one? Because she was quite close with her ex-boyfriend, and I was always like, hmm, what's going on here? Um, but then she mentioned stuff like you know, uni having a guy best friend and stuff. Yeah, and I'm like, Oh, what happened with that guy?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, like it turns out he wanted yeah.

SPEAKER_01

One day I went over to his house and I thought we were just studying, but he had made like a nice dinner for us, and then sort of said that he had feelings, and I was like, You don't say that the guy wanted to fuck you, hey?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, isn't that crazy? They all just wanted to be friends with you, isn't that crazy? I definitely different now, but I reckon in my 20s and 30s, I my female friend circle was was minimal. Yeah, because girls that I had like in my life were girls that I w was interested in in that way.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And that's why I had quite that's definitely not the case now because I'm like, well, I'm old, married, and passed it. But like now, now it's different. But like certainly younger and single me, if if I had a female friend, you wanted to fuck her. Yes. Yeah, it's weird to pretend that that's not a thing.

SPEAKER_01

Ah, it's uh it's an unwritten fucking thing that we're all we know we don't want to fucking just like, yeah, but I can't tell this gross motherfucker that I want to fuck him. Yeah, yeah. And I get that. I get that. It's probably a good thing that it's not out there. Yeah. Um, I reckon we finish up with this episode. Oh, yeah. And then we get it. Fair enough. That was just a bit of a catch-up for us. It was, yeah. The next one will be interesting. It won't. We got fireworks.