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SPEAKER_01 0:00

We back. Oh yeah. Welcome to another episode of the Pigeonhole Podcast. My name is Tate Middleton, and this is the other one.

SPEAKER_00 0:09

David Marzipan Hughes. Marzipan Hughes. I always wish that Marzipan wasn't my middle name. Yeah, it's unique though. Yeah. I don't know why they chose that.

SPEAKER_01 0:20

Yeah, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00 0:21

Because Marzipan isn't as nice as like actual icing. Marzipan's a very it's specific, isn't it? It is. It's got a weird taste to it.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

Because that is Marzapan what they make those like um uh is it cake? Is that Marza Pan? Oh the videos that they're yeah, I get because it's a bit harder, isn't it? I don't know. I thought it was soft. I don't know. I think the outside of it's was sort of Marza Panny.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

And then the outside of Marza Pan is Marza Panny.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

No, no, no, no, cake inside outside Marza Pan.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

Those videos are crazy, aren't they?

SPEAKER_01 0:55

Some of them are legitimately like I didn't think that was cake.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

Yeah, you get like I because here's the thing, obviously everything's AI now, so you don't you don't know what you can trust. But if those ones are like actual cake and somebody made that, you're like, fuck, that's that's really impressive. I don't AI's crazy now with those videos. Like some of them it's crazy with everything. You don't know what you can do. Like we see all these UFO videos now, and everyone, including myself, I'm like, that's probably not real.

SPEAKER_01 1:24

That's the issue, isn't it? We're gonna get become more and more skeptical because we know that a 13-year-old can just make it.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

Yeah, so I saw a video very recently where it was like a a a mother ship that they will point their camera up, and there was this like ship above them, and you could see like the lights and stuff and the clouds. And I was like, Yeah, that does look like that. And also, you can make that, yeah. So, yeah, maybe that's why there's so many sightings. It's either because they're all fake or it's because they go, No one believes anything anymore, so we can just park wherever we want.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's park here, they don't give a shit about us anymore.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

Yeah, what is your thoughts on UFOs, aliens? Um, it's yeah, it's a weird because there's so much stuff coming out now. And I don't I don't know who has to say definitively that it's a real thing for me to go, all right, it's a real thing, other than like me meeting one. Like there's um there's a story that I got really interested in. I I watched the interview a while ago, uh the Bob Lazar story. Are you familiar with the Bob Lazar story?

SPEAKER_01 2:27

You've told me about it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:28

So I I find that fascinating for a few different reasons. One, I think the overall story is but it's like so he's a he's a scientist who got recruited to work at Area 51. Is it 51? Is that yeah, yeah. Uh this subsidiary of it called S4, where he reverse engineered um UFO uh that had crash landed or whatever. And I always have so many little other like why are they why are they crashing? I thought I thought they were amazing and they and you know they work as well and they're not damaged. So how how did they just get left here? Apparently they came from archaeological digs, some of them. Um so like they've been here for like a really long time. And but there's all these other there's all these things like just where you go, like, ah, yeah, but maybe not or whatever. But the but the main one is that like so he was on uh he was on Joe Rogan, that was where I first saw that interview, and then he did another one recently. And Rogan always says his things like you know, Bob's story is so consistent, yeah. And it has been since like the uh you know, I think the mid 80s or whatever when he first broke it, and um, and then he, you know, and he's got no reason to lie, and he doesn't benefit from this story. And all three of those things are ridiculous statements, as far as I'm concerned.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

I was gonna say at least two of them are. He can be got things to gain, which is definitely, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:45

He has a like a metallurgy company, he like he does like all that uh sort of sciencey shit. It's like clearly his profile is gonna help with that. Yep, like a hundred percent gonna help with that. He's got um, you know, he'll he'll do like speaking gigs and stuff. Like, there's no way he doesn't make any money. Yeah, like that's he goes on Joe Rogan, he gets paid from Joe. Well, I mean, I don't know if he gets paid. Like, I don't know how that I genuinely don't know if they get paid to go on.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

I'm pretty sure they 100% get paid to go on. At least wouldn't be like much, but at least they're getting a bit of money. Like at the very least, flights, accommodation, they're definitely not like flights and accommodation.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

They've they talk about that. Uh many people have talked about that. But I don't know if you'd get paid to go on that show because that show does so much for people's careers to be exposed to like millions of people. But anyway, the other thing too is that like no reason to lie, like, no one has a reason really, they just lie, so many people lie, and if you keep lying about it, you'll just tell yourself the same story. So the fact that he's had the same story for so long, I think is crazy to go like, oh, that means he's telling the truth. It does sound like you know, for as much as I'm interested in that story, I don't know it inside out, but it does sound like a lot of the things that he said have sort of come to either be true, or more people have had experiences where they've gone like, oh, this is exactly like he said. Yeah, everything from like the shape of them to how they move and stuff like that. And uh yeah, I don't know. I I just I don't know enough, but what I see, I just we were talking about this recently, like doesn't really change much about my life, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

Like if they're real or then or they're not like if an unless aliens are attacking us, that's the only way that it changes my life. Yeah, and to be fair, in every single alien movie, they never seem to attack Australia, so we're fine. The rest of the world, you're fucked.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

America specifically, they always seem to get them, don't they?

SPEAKER_01 5:36

America gets everything. Independence day.

SPEAKER_00 5:39

Always the Americans.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Yeah, it's uh it's very strange. Very, very strange. But I mean it's the times we live in. It's like I did my resume yesterday through ChatGPT. Oh yeah, and it's the best it's ever looked. It makes the most sense, you know, all cover letters too, you do it. Cover letters, yeah. And it's a game changer. Yeah because I was against it so much, and not just not out of like an ethical sort of thing. Like I've been cheating my whole life. Like, I don't give a fuck. Um I still remember this is a funny one of cheating. When I was like 14, 15, me and my mate were in the same class, he paid me $10 to do his homework. All I did was change the font of mine and put it in different colours, right? Fantastic. You know what the funny thing is? I got a B plus he got a B. Yeah, because they don't read 'em. Yeah. And we were like, this is ridiculous. And we were gonna go up there and we're like, Whoa.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Yeah, then we're admitting we're admitting we're idiots.

SPEAKER_01 6:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:41

So she the teacher liked you more. Yeah, though that's exactly what it was. I just don't think they read them a lot.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

That's exactly what it was. I remember the teacher. I was like, this guy likes me.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's quite funny.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

Yeah, I always remember that. Just yep. Science class being like, yeah, I just fucking asked to that.

SPEAKER_00 6:59

What was your favorite subject in school?

SPEAKER_01 7:01

Lunch.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

It was a good subject. Were you any good at it? Master.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

Uh geez, favorite subject at school. Uh I mean, it's gotta be like just PE. Yeah. Yeah. Just throwing so funny when you're a kid, one of your classes, see this ball, throw it as hard as you can at that other kid.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Dude, we used to play this thing. I don't even want to call it a game. We used to do this thing in PE called the uh I went to a school called Belmore, right? It was called the Belmore Chair. Now, you know, like benches, the long wooden benches.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

So I mean, this just never would fly today. But the goal of it was Sorry, what year? Uh 1994. Okay, yeah. Was when I went and I left in '99. Yep. So at some point in that five-year span, they would get the bench and one kid would have to sit on the end of the bench while the rest of the kids erected the bench upright. So like somebody is sat on like a throne. It was called the Belmore chair. It's like a throne.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

I swear to God, we just reefed them into the sky.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. The length of the bench as well. So if you fall from that height, like you one, you're falling on a lot of children, but two, you're also like everyone's getting really badly hurt. Like I said, there's no way they still do it. Did did people get injured? Not to my knowledge.

SPEAKER_02 8:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:28

Not to my knowledge, because you, you know, we were quite careful doing it. But there was this game that we used to play called Fumble, where you would you would get a tennis ball, it was always a tennis ball, and you just throw it against the wall, and then if somebody caught it before it bounced, they were on the wall. So they had to go stand on the wall, and then we say there's like three or four other people playing, you each throw the ball as hard as you can at that person with the sole like purpose of making them cry. Yep. And then if they but if they caught it, if you threw it at them and they caught it, then you were on the wall and they came off the wall. Yep. And that was that was the whole game. It was just like, let's hurt each other.

SPEAKER_01 9:05

We played games like that all the time, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

But even I think shortly after I'd left school, they were like, Yeah, they banned, they banned Fumble. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

It's like why halfway through my time at high school, they banned half the stuff in the canteen.

SPEAKER_00 9:19

The cafeteria. Yeah. We had we had a uh a Coke machine in our in our cafeteria. So did we, yeah. And you know, it was it was cheap because you know it was fucking 90s, but also, yeah, and and kids, but yeah, like uh lunches were like pizza sausage rolls, like stuff like that, and then like a can of mountain dew.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

Yeah. So could because your uh dining experience at school was a lot different to Australia, like you had we never went into a room where we could pay two bucks and sit down and eat in the cafeteria. Oh, really? We had like a canteen, which was just a tuck shop, and you walk over there and you're like, Can I have a sausage roll? Here's the money, walk off.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

You could do that as well. So we had like our one in particular, the dining hall was like two ends. There was the end like elevated up at one side, which was seating, so you go up there and you pay and you get your like hot meal or whatever, and you sit down and it was you know, lasagnas and all that sort of stuff, or you could go to the counter down the bottom and then just get like it was being a bag, so you get like a or or a little plate thing with like a slice of pizza or a sausage roll or something, and then you just go back out into the playground and play football while you're munging on a sausage roll.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

Yeah, so we yeah, we just it was just always takeaway. There was no sit-down, but I reckon you would say probably 85-90% of kids all brought their lunch to school. Yeah, it's very, very rare that it was.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

It was far more I think, yeah, more way more people bought food at school.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Yeah, because the American style is the same thing. Uh cafeteria, yeah, you know, it's it's sort of like this weird prison thing, you know, a little tray and yeah, it's exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_00 10:58

And you queue up waiting, and it's like so forever. The food was pretty good though. Like I like I know people like notoriously like to complain about food made in that way and presented in that way and stuff, but like it was it was fine. Some of it was actually really good. There was plenty of things that weren't nice at all, but some of it was really good.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Yeah, that just wasn't a thing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

But they did Christmas dinners as well, really, yeah. Because in you know, we uh it's not our summer holidays, obviously. So we're in school up until about a week before Christmas, so it gets very Christmassy. Wow, like the school is decorated, there's a tree, there's like everyone is in Christmas mode, um, and it's cold as fuck and everything, so it's really nice and cozy, and we all have Christmas dinners.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

Wow. That's like we're we've been off school for as you know. Six weeks. Yeah, yeah, a couple of weeks. What is it? A couple of weeks before Christmas and then four weeks after.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Yeah, and also it's it's hot and weird here. I mean, I'm sorry, it's it's pretty much the only thing that I can't really get on board with with this country. I love it. You were just talking in the last episode, I think, or was it yeah, it was the last episode about Canada and about how like when you got there and you were like, oh my god, it feels so that's how I knew that this was the place that I needed to live when I was here, and then I left and I went to okay to India, and then I came back here and it felt like I was home. Yeah, okay. Like seeing that you know that w it's a Western Australia thing for sure, but that the way the sun sets and you have this orange glow as far as you can see, and I was just like, Oh god, it's beautiful here. I've missed it so much, and I'd had a great time as well. But like when I got back, as soon as I landed, I was like, Oh, this I've never felt like this before going home home.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Yeah, yep. Yeah, it's uh it is weird that thing.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

But it's just the Christmas. I can't, it shouldn't be warm at Christmas. Eating seafood on a beach at Christmas is crazy. Seafood's just weird, crazy work.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

Um someone recently was talking about it might have been you, maybe it's been a viral thing at the moment, I'm not too sure, but about like people are blown away in Australia that we keep our like valuables on the beach when we go for a swim.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

Oh no, I didn't talk about that, but yeah, I mean it's well what so I've talked about this before. I used to live and work rurally, and you obviously your mum lives in like a more rural uh area in Victoria. Like, I had never been to a place where no one locks doors. Oh yeah, cut keys just left in cars. Yeah, that's not because my mum's. I can imagine, yeah. That's what I was gonna say. Like, I g that's how we were on the farm. Nothing was locked, ever. Because no one came. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like you're not stealing from each other, like hopefully, but like you're not stealing from yourselves, and obviously, if it's your mum and you, you know, and like from her, yeah, but yeah, of course, like cars are unlocked, and and and the front door, like the front door of the home, the main house, and the cottage where I lived, uh, but of the the main house on that farm. I don't even know if it had keys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've they never locked it, they went away for like weeks at a time and never locked it. Because if anyone came to the property, they probably were like very close with them and would go into the house anyway. Because you don't knock on the door, yeah. Or at least they did this. Is what we we never knocked on the door. You would just go into the house and then announce that you were there. It's just how it worked. It's lovely, it's a lovely way to live. Leaving your shit on the beach where you go for a swim should be going to, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

Yeah, um, we've got a new segment which is we're gonna do Darwin Awards.

SPEAKER_00 14:28

The Darwin Awards, we are, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

So for people who don't know what the Darwin Awards is, essentially it's just an extremely stupid way to die. Um there's the internet is littered with them. Um and I watched an old school show not too long ago. I think it was like a thousand ways to die or something like that. Um yeah, yeah. And it popped up, and I was like, just what I think came up as a YouTube short, and I was like, oh, this is fucking, I remember this show. And then we were chatting about it, and I was like, it could be a good little segment for us that we could pinch.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

Do you want to know what we're dealing with as well? With this, I've gone back to 1990, which I don't know if that was like the first. Are these the first ones or uh I'm not sure. There's some fucking belters. Uh the macho chainsaw contest. Right. A man trying to prove his toughness in a game of one-upmanship with a chainsaw attempted to win a contest by shifting the chainsaw chainsaw from his foot to his head, resulting in self-decapitation. He cut his head off with a chainsaw. That's good, eh? How many people do you think have died like that? And imagine as well, like your friends or family, when you go, like, oh, Tate actually passed away last December. Oh god, what happened? He cut his head off with a chainsaw.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

He was driving with his eyes closed again.

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Uh a man in the US chose to I mean, this isn't really Darwin, I mean, because this is in the US, but yeah. A man in the US chose to commit his first robbery on a shop full of armed gun enthusiasts with a police officer and an armed clerk present. He was shot immediately upon drawing his weapon. I mean, yeah, that's yeah, that's usually how it goes. Yeah, you took a gun to a gunfight, but there was just loads of guns there.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

Yeah, took a gun to a gun show. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:18

What else do we have here? Uh in September 1990, a 34-year-old man was killed when the engine block he was attempting to steal from an old truck in a scrapyard collapsed on him, crushing to death. I mean you tried to steal it, so I don't know what you expect here.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Yeah, cars are cars are dangerous even when they're uh they're just especially if you're like me and you don't really know fucking anything about them.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

Oh, this one sounds good. Can I read one more?

SPEAKER_01 16:44

Yeah, go down.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

In 1990, 22-year-old, I don't know why they've named him. This feels I don't know, he's dead, it doesn't matter. Yeah, Eric Barcia died while attempting a bungee jump with a homecrafted set of bungee cords, having failed to calculate the appropriate length and strength needed for the jump.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

I always say, I always say, David, you don't skimp on bungee jumping equipment.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

You never skimp on bungee cords, no.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

Oh god, that was fucking brutal.

SPEAKER_00 17:16

Crazy. What what makes you think that that's a good idea?

SPEAKER_01 17:20

It's like you you find out when you know kids do silly things like watch a television show and they go to the roof and they jump off because they think they can fly. You grow out of that.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

You do, yeah. You know what I mean? 22 years old, Eric.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

It didn't really say that if Eric was, you know, all there.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 17:40

Oh it is still funny. Fuck Eric, I don't care.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

But it is interesting, like you bring that up about how you know, like so when we were growing, I know it's like there's a little bit of an age gap between the two of us. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 17:55

It's eight years.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Uh I'm 36 this year. Yeah, I'm I'm 42. I'm 43 this year. Yeah. Um, and I can't do maths, so it's however long you just said it was. Sure, I mean. Um, but like, okay, so for me anyway, we seemingly were allowed to make so many mistakes, yeah, yeah. Like and find things out for ourselves. Whereas like my son, I I don't deliberately do it, but I definitely protect him from like way more than I was protected from. Because you've constantly got to be worrying about like so many things, you know. Like the the phones are a good example. It's a different world there. That's the thing, it's a different world. But but but in the you know, I I was born in the 80s and grew up in the 90s. We assumed everyone was a paedophile, but we didn't really care too much. And now we thought we are we just thought we'd get like a puppy or something. Like, you know what I mean? We didn't, you know, we weren't we didn't change our lives and we weren't like kept inside constantly because of it.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

You just knew one of your mates was gonna have a good story, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

But it's not a bad one, but it is really different now, yeah. It's very, very it's scary though.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

I think it's I don't know, like I always like my mum and dad would tell me stuff when they were growing up, and I would always be like, You old bastard, you know what I mean? And now I see younger children, and I'm like, Oh, you're never gonna go to the video shop on a Friday night to get a couple of overnight videos, and you know, and then you take it back the next day.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

I mean, so there's those experiences where you go, yeah, you're never gonna get to go to Blockbuster or whatever, but they do have access to every movie that's ever been made ever.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

But I mean, that's a different thing though, isn't it? Like you're spoiled for choice. We had to make our decision making, I think, will be better than theirs because it has the consequences, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Okay, so this this is my main point, is that I think the the way that we grew up, we were sort of problem solving's a big one. There's no safety net, no, the because we didn't have because no one was holding my hands in particular, like all the time to guide me through things. Like, I kind of learnt how to cook by eating food and going, like, oh, I kind of see how this works, hey. But yeah, I I don't know, like I don't think they they're gonna get that now. So I think there's gonna be a a sort of generation, my son's age, he's gonna be 10 soon. Um, and he's he's not he's great in some areas, and in other areas, I'm like, I don't know how you're gonna fucking manage later on.

SPEAKER_01 20:26

Yeah, I get it's a I mean that's your job as a parent, though, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 20:29

It is, and it but it's not him specifically, it's just I mean, like the the way things are now. I just don't think that you know, like there's not as you don't want to give your kids trauma. No, but I learned so much from the stuff that I've gone through.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

I'll tell you a good story of trauma. This is another one where you're like, Yes, this guy's a fucking idiot.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

When I was This is going to be good. All right, strap in. I have no idea what he's gonna say. I know I'm gonna love it.

SPEAKER_01 20:58

It explains a lot.

SPEAKER_00 20:59

I don't know the story, do I?

SPEAKER_01 21:00

You don't know the story.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Fantastic, this is even better. Go.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

I would have been somewhere between seven and nine. We had a fireplace in my mum's house, always had it. We've always had like a grid in front of it, so if a vlog fell out, it would stop, it wouldn't go on the carpet. Don't know why to this day the fire was going. I was touching the grid and it was hot, but it wasn't crazy hot. For some reason, I got my dick out and just pressed it on that metal. What? And it was a thousand degrees.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

I think it's saying like an ember or something landed on it. No, no, no. You you got your dick out. Yep. Not not out of anything sort of oh, you were seven.

SPEAKER_01 21:40

Yeah, I was young. Yeah, so you still remember this.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

You just got it out and you put it I just went and went, well, I'm not doing that again. You didn't think to do it with like your finger or something.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

I did it with my finger. Yeah. It was warm with a finger. Yeah. The tibia dick is a lot different.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

Wow, it's almost like it's more sensitive.

SPEAKER_01 21:57

They say it's the most sensitive finger on your body. Oh god damn it burnt. So I never did that again. I know that it may seem warm to the touch, but it's a lot fucking hotter.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Warm to the touch, hot to the dick. That's the name of this episode. Um you actually did put a superglue in your mouth then, didn't you? I did. Yeah, I I believe this now.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

I did, yeah. I was I was taking the lid off.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

For those of you who don't know, Tate has a a joke where you say, like, I once put a superglue in my mouth, there's no punchline to this. Just want to let you know early on, don't expect much.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Yeah, that's pretty much it's the truth. Yeah, folks, we had some technical difficulties.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Technical glitch.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

I wasn't watching the old cameras and they f they filled up.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

Yeah, and if you're listening to this on Spotify, you don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

But we can't remember exactly what we were talking about. Talking about Tate burning his dick on a fireplace.

SPEAKER_01 22:53

Yeah, it wasn't the best. Super goo in the mouth. Yeah. Super go in the mouth. Um, but we were just talking about safety nets and whereas we learnt from our mistakes.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

We were allowed to make them. I think that was my main point. Because we've made them, like as a parent, you don't want your kid to have to go through all that stuff.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

Because it's it's not fun, but you do come out of it like going, all right, I know to deal with stuff now. And I I think me and many people like me are inadvertently raising kids that are not gonna be as um, I guess, uh efficient with dealing with things. Independent, maybe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

Yeah, we'll figure it out. There's always a wave of new um what's gonna be interesting is the the the times when you're with Oscar and Oscar wants to do something, but you know how like mean kids can be. You know what I mean? Let's say if he wanted to wear like something or a fedora or some bullshit, you know what I mean? And now you've got to be like, how do I not dint his confidence but also shield him from the pain that he most likely will suffer? This is more high school.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Well, there's some pain that you definitely need to shield them from, i.e., like if he was like, hey, I might put my dick on the fireplace, I'll be like, listen, that's not a good idea, don't do that. Yeah, but there are other things where I do think that you gotta you gotta do it and then let that sort of shape you a little bit, like some embarrassing thing or whatever, like it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

But like if he was like, I want to get a pink mohawk, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

I was like, all right, go for it. I mean, if you have to, I don't know. But that I don't know. My I I think the the one that's sticking out for me a lot right now is like I'm really conscious of of how much stuff he consumes, so I'm like, I'm trying to limit that without being an absolute fucking caveman about it because some of the th the way that like I've watched kids communicate with each other, it's like are you none of you are really good at this now? Conversation is lost. Like, I've seen I've seen other kids. So my friend has a 15-year-old. Um, and when you speak to him, he doesn't there's no eye contact, it's nothing. Like he's he's very Is he also a cat? Yeah, but he's very like shut off, yeah, very shut off. And it's because um, you know, he just spends all his time playing games and watching fucking videos on YouTube and stuff, doesn't go, I think doesn't go like out enough and isn't playing playing sports a huge one. A hundred percent. I've been playing basketball with Oscar a lot, like I want him to join a team or something, but I don't I also don't want to push it and be like, hey, do the thing that I did.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:35

Because I mean it was good for me, it might not be good for him, but it's true. I know it's tough. It's tough. There's a lot of obstacles and stuff that to be honest, the up until now, now is probably the hardest part of parenting for me. Now's the hardest part. The all the stuff when they're young, it's everything is just like you do exactly what I tell you to do all of the time. Where it's now is like I I need you to make some of those decisions yourself and then start to make more of them yourself. But I don't want to watch you hurt yourself or yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

Does he ever ask like why we do certain things? Like, you know, you and the family, mum, you, yourself, whatever. Does he ever go why and you're like, why do we do that?

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Like, you know, yeah, but I mean, I don't uh I'm just trying to think of the last the last big one was with that we always eat at the table together. Like, I mean, that was probably a few years ago when he asked why. And I was like, I mean, because it's nice, like there's no there's no real reason for it, other than I think it's a good habit to get into and it's good for as a family unit to sit down and do that. But obviously, he wants to like watch cartoons or something. And I'm like, There's no TV either. He's like, but we can see the TV from here if we turned it on. I was like, I know, but I want us to talk to each other, I want us to like just enjoy, and then you're like, we can put music on. It's like, what's the difference?

SPEAKER_01 26:58

I was like, I I don't know, but like yeah, music's in the background, TV's in the forefront. Yeah, yeah, it's becomes a yeah, it's just must be get to a point too when kids there'd be things that in the past you could say to your child, be like, Hey, do that, or I'll call the police.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

I still do that now, but he's always known that I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

He knows the police are coming.

SPEAKER_00 27:20

Well, he'll he always I think because of just how I am, he always knows that most things that I say are just nonsense. Yeah, and like it the best thing for me anyway, because I always find it funny. Like, he'll say something or he'll ask something, I'll answer it, and then he'll go, Mom, is that true? Because he knows that the chances are I'm just making something up. That is funny, that's very funny.

SPEAKER_01 27:44

Uh, that's this episode, yeah. Uh, ladies and gents, as we say every single time, thank you so much for listening. Please send your voice notes, give us that review. I know it doesn't seem like much, but it genuinely fucking makes sense. Yeah, it helps.

SPEAKER_00 28:00

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SPEAKER_01 28:09

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SPEAKER_00 28:41

Thank you. Hot to the touch. No, was it uh cool to the touch, hot to the dick? Yeah, it's it. Yeah, but thank you, Father. Thanks everyone. Bye.