The Ripple Effect: Multiple Soulmates and Very Bad Things

Alright Committed Gang, lets chat and yap about some very bad things. 

This week, we're diving into the Netflix series, Something Very Bad is Going to Happen. Between kept secrets, family curses, and making the biggest decision of your life - we have ALOT to cover. 

We also are asking the question - Do you truly believe in the one? Or are we allowed to have multiple soulmates in this lifetime. 

Time to sit back, relax, and listen to your favorite lavender couple discuss the ripple effect. 

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Editing and Production: Riverside.FM Studios

Music: "Good Things Take Time" by Otto.mp3 and Upbeat

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unknown 0:04

Crispy.

SPEAKER_01 0:07

You never get tired of that, do you?

SPEAKER_02 0:09

Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 0:09

You know, I kind of figured because I can see it for you, like when you die, like the last thing you do is crack a beer or a buzz ball and say crispy. And then pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.

SPEAKER_02 0:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:22

Yeah. Anyways, let's go ahead and just jump into this week's episode, shall we?

unknown 0:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

Let's chat and yep about it, bitches.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Lego. Welcome back to Kamina Technically. Today we're diving into the unsettling and undeniable. Starting with the breakdown of something very bad is going to happen. And after we sift through the wreckage that the Duffer brothers produced, we kind of pivot into the question that's just as heavy. Is the idea of quote unquote the one actually holding us back? Keep this question in mind. Are you limited to just one person in this lifetime? Or is it possible to have a soulmate for every version of yourself? And just to warn everyone that this does have spoilers.

SPEAKER_02 1:32

It took a fucking 360 girl.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

It really did. Um it was one of those that I saw it like the preview for it on Netflix, and I was like, ooh, that's gonna be so good. I can't wait for it to come out. The day it came out, I started watching it, and I was like, Yeah. Yeah. And then as it developed, I was like, this show I wish would have came out for me personally in like my early to like mid 20s. Yeah. I feel like it would have like really helped me.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

Like you would have resonated with it more?

SPEAKER_01 2:04

I would have resonated with it a lot without where it was hard for you. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

Y'all, if you hear me stroke out, mind your business.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

So funny. We were about to walk in to do this recording and he put something up his nose, and I thought he put a popper up his nose. I was like, Are you taking poppers before we start doing business? And he goes, For sure.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

Just casually doing poppers at six o'clock in the evening. Literally. About to record a podcast. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Okay, so I really do think it's a popper. He's like, it's just the VIX, what is it?

SPEAKER_02 2:33

It's a VIX inhaler.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

A VIX inhaler.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

Poppers.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

It's yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:37

Poppers. Apparently.

SPEAKER_01 2:38

Apparently, you're taking poppers.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

The VIX popper. Okay. So let's talk about the show. I guess we should really talk about the characters. And I kind of did like a quickie little breakdown of each character.

SPEAKER_02 2:54

Oh, your notes are way better than mine.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Your handwriting's not too terrible.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Well, here, yeah. But the next episode, yes, absolutely. It was horrible.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Okay. So we have Rachel. She's our main character. Uh she is moody, anxious. She's a stoner. I feel like almost every scene where things get really hard for her, she's like, Yeah, girl.

SPEAKER_02 3:22

She'd be lighting up like multiple times.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

See, and that's why, like, if I was again in my early to like mid-20s, if the show would have come out, I've been like, oh my god, I'm Rachel. Any slight inconvenience.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

I'm like, Side note, um, did you when you first saw Rachel, do you think she looks like Dula Peep?

SPEAKER_01 3:39

A little bit. A little bit.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

You know what I'm talking about? I do. Like her facial structure?

SPEAKER_01 3:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 3:45

I thought she was gorgeous.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

No, she's very pretty.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

And I was like, what else is she in? Like, is she like a like a like a Nepo baby or something like that? No, you want to know where I've seen her at?

SPEAKER_02 3:54

Where?

SPEAKER_01 3:56

I feel so bad that this is the only place I know her from.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Well, I've seen her before too, but I just didn't know where.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Um she dated Leonardo DiCaprio. She was one of the young girls that he dated for a couple years, and then she like peeked up into like her late 20s, and he said, and dumped her. That's the only place I've known her from is being his girlfriend.

SPEAKER_02 4:14

That's crazy. I did not know that.

SPEAKER_01 4:16

Yeah. Well, neither did I until I was like, oh no, I hate that. I wish I knew you for your work instead of for who you dated.

SPEAKER_02 4:23

But anyway, she's been in like other shit though, too.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

I know, she has like the face. Yeah. No, she was great too. Um, and then we have, I guess, Nikki, the fiance boyfriend. He's basically kind of golden retriever energy, and he's deeply insecure though.

SPEAKER_02 4:41

Very, very much so. But that man is fine as well. And he can get it.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

I was like, what's your notes say?

SPEAKER_02 4:48

I really didn't do like your kind of notes. Like, I literally just like recapped every episode.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

Oh, I love that.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

Yeah, so like just shit that I saw, and I was like, wait, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 4:59

Okay. Um, so next we have I kind of this is kind of in the order I guess they appeared in. Um, is Portia. That is Nikki's little sister. She is the most micromanageable person I think I've seen on screening.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

She she gave me some weird fucking vibes like when we were first introduced to her.

SPEAKER_01 5:20

I thought she was on poppers.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

Yeah, no, literally. She that was tweaking for real.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Girl, and that was another character. I was like, where the fuck have I seen you at?

SPEAKER_02 5:30

Because she also looks familiar.

SPEAKER_01 5:31

So Jim and I watched The Last Frontier. I think it's on Amazon Prime. I don't know. Um, she plays a drug addict who escapes from prison. I was like, oh my god, it checks out.

SPEAKER_02 5:43

That's really fitting for her, actually.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

I was thinking about it. That's crazy. Um, but yeah, she's a micromanager. Um, she's very high stressor and amps all the paranoia, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_02 5:53

Absolutely. 100%. She made me anxious and I was just sitting there watching it.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

Girl, every time she came out the screen, I started to get like the secondhand embarrassment.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

Did you um did you do you remember in the first episode where basically Nikki or not Nikki um Rachel walked into the kitchen and Portia was telling her about the sorry man? Yes. And like And this, mind you, this is the first time she is meeting these fucking people. Yeah. And that's what she says.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

Yeah, I can't even remember how it goes.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

But it was some kind of like riddle almost, if I remember right.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Yeah. It was like, don't let um don't let him smell your blood. And then she turns around to Rachel, says, You're not in your period, right? Like just like so weird.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

The first fucking time you're meeting that person. That's what you say.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

I would run back into the room I'm sharing with Jim and be like, your fucking sister.

SPEAKER_02 6:47

I would just leave.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

Needs to get committed. We need to go.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

Right.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

Um, so that's Portia's energy. Then we have mom, her name's Victoria. Um, very wealthy. In my opinion, she's losing her marbles. Um, she is sick, which we find out later on as the season goes on. Spoiler. Yeah. Um, but I kind of get like weird vibes from her too. To me, like when I when she appears in that first episode where she stands in the what is that, like the ballroom or whatever. Yeah. And then she just like looks at her and says, I'm sorry we won't get to see much of each other anymore. It was so omnemous, and I was like, Yeah, what the fuck is gonna happen?

SPEAKER_02 7:32

Um, before I knew that uh she had uh her illness, I wrote I wrote down Sunbowning.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Girl, yeah. Yeah, because that's what I felt like.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Yeah, I was like, this bitch is crazy, and she is about to lose her fucking mind.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

She's losing her goddamn marbles. Next we have Nell. It is um Nikki's sister-in-law. It's uh Julian, or otherwise known as Jules. It's his second wife, that's um Nikki's older brother. A kind of like plot twist. Uh she also dated Nikki too. And so I was like, oop, brotherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

And I was like, homie hopper. Yeah. Or not even a homie hopper, a brotherfucker. A brotherfucker. That's a good one. Yeah. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

I was like, ooh, brotherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

Yeah. Oop, ooh, oop. I was like, ooh, tea girl. Alright.

SPEAKER_01 8:21

She's cunty though.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

I do love her.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

I love her too.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

And Jules is.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 8:31

I love him as a character, but I hate his character too. Do you really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:35

I hated it in the beginning.

SPEAKER_02 8:37

That's fair.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

I liked it towards the end. Yeah. He was like the realest one.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

That's that's true.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

The realest one, besides Rachel.

SPEAKER_02 8:44

I don't know. He just gives me like narcissistic, maybe?

SPEAKER_01 8:49

Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 8:50

Um 100%. Mansplaining a lot?

SPEAKER_01 8:53

Yeah, I couldn't be married to him. Yeah. I don't know how Nell is because she's so cunty.

SPEAKER_02 8:57

And I don't know if I don't know if he's hot or not. I can't tell.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

I think it depends on the situation. That's true. You know. Um, but, anyways, yeah, then there's Jules, Nikki's older brother. I said asshole energy, narcissistic energy.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Um, Boris is Nikki's dad. He is where all the money comes from. He is the wealthy doctor of the family. To me, he's out of touch with everything. He's just kind of there.

SPEAKER_02 9:21

Yeah, I honestly didn't know his first name, so I'm glad you wrote it down. Um, he doesn't really like appear in any of the scenes.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

No, he just kind of like He's kind of just there. He's vibing.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

But honestly, I mean his wife is dying, so True. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

Maybe that's where he's out of touch. Probably. And because here's the thing is like his wife is dying and no one knows about it. Well, I can't remember. Do the other siblings know? Because Nikki does not know that his mom is dying when they show up to the house.

SPEAKER_02 9:53

That's true. I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Yeah. So it's like everyone is kind of in touch with what's happening, besides like Nikki and Rachel. And they're just like, Lotita, we're here, you know, hanging out. And then they're like, Your mom's gonna die in like 12 days. And they're like, Holy shit.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

Yeah, it's a fucking bomb to drop on your kid.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

Girl. Um okay, so the Nexus. I labeled him as the ghost. He's not really a ghost per se. He's what they call like the witness. So an entity that holds the curse to Rachel's family. It was a 200-year curse.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

Um, you're talking about the man.

SPEAKER_01 10:36

The man, the witness.

SPEAKER_02 10:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Freaked me the fuck out.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

Do you remember the scene in the bar? Girl. She stabbed that man with her keys.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

And he just like stood there like, what up?

SPEAKER_02 10:47

I saw that scene was also fucking crazy. I was like, like, he got he got fucking stabbed in the hand, and he was like, Are you sure he's the one? And I was like, What the fuck? Hello? How do you know he's getting married? How do you know she's getting married?

SPEAKER_01 11:01

Girl, and I so here's the thing. Um, that scene was insane to me because she goes to the bathroom to pee. She's had a pee for so long.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

Oh god, I forgot about that part too.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

As a woman, you fear this anytime you go to some sketchy, like wherever. I feared this when we went to the Ozarks and we were driving. Do you remember? Yeah. And we went to that really sketchy.

SPEAKER_02 11:27

Sketchy bathrooms, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Yes, and I was like, I gotta pee so bad, but like I'm scared because I'm so scared that this would happen. Where you're peeing, you're trying to hurry up and pee, so you're like, you're sprint peeing, so you're like waterfall trying to get it out, right? And then there's someone who look who is looking at you, like looking over the stall.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Wasn't he recording?

SPEAKER_01 11:46

No, he was just looking. He just peeked over the stall and she was like, Again, as a woman, you like feel the vibe is off.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

She looked up and saw this big ass ugly man looking at her piss, and she goes, What the fuck? Yeah, girl. I would have stabbed the man too.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

Yeah, I don't know. It was just it was a weird fucking scene. This whole show just weirded me the fuck out, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 12:09

It's very unselling. Yeah. And it wasn't like scary. So, like, if you guys are like, uh, I'm not gonna watch it because it's scary, to me, it's not scary.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

It wasn't scary.

SPEAKER_01 12:16

To me, it's more of the haunting of Hill House without the jump scares.

SPEAKER_00 12:21

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

I think that scene where he is looking over her in the bathroom stall, I think that was the biggest jump scare I got for the whole what eight episodes there were. Eight, nine.

SPEAKER_02 12:34

There was two for me.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

What was your other one?

SPEAKER_02 12:37

Uh do you remember when I think it was Jude?

SPEAKER_01 12:43

Oh, the little boy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

He went downstairs with the phone. Oh. And the man was downstairs. And the leather suit. You remember? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_02 12:53

Spoiler.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Spoiler. Getting into Jude. He's the youngest character. He's 10 years old. He's a son of uh Jules. And not Nell, because again, Nell is his second wife, was married before whatever. So Nell's uh stepson. He plays kind of a key role into the plot later on into the show. Okay. So those are our characters. Now I guess the premise of the show is that Nick and Rachel are getting married. Um, they moved up the wedding and they wanted to have it super small. Rachel has like no family. Her mom has passed away, um, doesn't talk to her dad, no siblings, no grandparents, no nothing, right? And so Nikki's like, well, what? Let's just go out to my family's cabin and let's just have it like a small intimate wedding. And she's like, Bet, I'm down. First off, this is not a cabin. Bitch, this is a mansion. It's a mansion, it's a huge fucking house.

SPEAKER_02 13:46

But if you come from money, it might be a cabin to him.

SPEAKER_01 13:49

Oh, and I hate that.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:51

Oh, I hate that. Um, I loved how the house is laid out.

SPEAKER_02 13:54

It was very beautiful, it was a really pretty house for sure.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

Like, I love like the center garden. Yeah. It's all surrounded by that.

SPEAKER_02 14:00

Big ass house.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

Huge ass house.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Cabin. Boy.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

Girl. And so the whole premise is like the five days leading up to their wedding day. And these kind of weird things that happen, and things are adding up, and kind of getting into key themes. And I guess some of our favorite parts are parts like we really hated of the show. Um, one of the key themes is the weight of secrets. So, in your opinion, now granted, Rachel, I don't think, knew about her curse and her family.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

No, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

So the curse of her family is that when the woman marries someone, right? And if that is truly not your soulmate, then right after you both say I do, and it's sealed, then the woman will hemorrhage from every hole in her body and die. Because you did not marry the right person, which is where the witness or the ghost comes into play. So he was the one who started this curse long time, again, like 200 years ago.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Right.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

And because of it, he is now having to witness every single marriage in her family's lineage and has to ask that question are you sure that he's the one? And if he's not, then whoop.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

The way they hemorrhage is fucking insane.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

Brother, every whole, every part of your body.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

Yeah, it was we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna get into it.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

We're gonna get into it.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

So um, Rachel ends up finding this out because there's like this little plot twist where I was like, holy shit. Also, side note, I love that they brought in our one of our favorite scream queens. Um Victoria per. She's in the haunted of Hill House. She's in um, she plays the little sister, Nellie, in the Haunted of Hill House.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

She was in there?

SPEAKER_01 16:06

The Nobec. She plays the mom. You talking about? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

Shut the fuck up. There's no way.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

Yeah, she plays the mom. They brought in like a scream queen to play her mom. What's her name? Uh, you might just want to look up. Like her first name, I think, is Victoria, and the last name starts with a P, but I can't say it.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

She's in the haunting of the house?

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:35

I didn't even see her in there.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

Girl, she plays the mom from like the point of view of the dad recording.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

Oh my god, yeah, I forgot about that.

unknown 16:45

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

I didn't even like clock her. I didn't even see.

SPEAKER_01 16:48

You didn't clock? No. Girl, I saw her face. I was like, oh my god, I'm dying.

SPEAKER_02 16:51

Uh I love that show. I need to watch it again.

SPEAKER_01 16:53

I watch it for funsies. It's so good. That was, see, that's a show that, in my opinion, really got horror right. And I always had to be second-guessing. I did not know. I did not know what was gonna happen. I didn't know that Nelly was the bit neck lady.

SPEAKER_02 17:11

Yeah, we should speak about that.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

Yeah, that'd be a really good one. Anyways, so sorry. Back on topic.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

Um we just stayed getting off track, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 17:20

We really do.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

So, with this curse, that's kind of the gist of it. Okay. Well, as tales unfold, um, Rachel comes to find us out from her dad because he ends up trying to crash the wedding because Nikki lied and said he didn't send her dad an invitation, even though they've been estranged for like five plus years.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

And that's how he knew where they were. And her dad comes to warn her that that's the place that her mom died was in a cabin not too far away from where they're gonna get married.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:52

And she hemorrhaged. Yeah. Which comes to find out that Jules knew come to knew him as the sorry man because he kept saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, as his brand new wife is hemorrhaging out and she's pregnant and has to end up cutting Rachel out of her belly.

SPEAKER_02 18:13

Bitch, that fucking scene was crazy. Now they're remembering it.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

Yeah. So um, it was obviously a shotgun wedding, and then she ended up dying, and the dad was like, Well, fuck, I can't let my wife and my daughter die, so it cuts out Rachel, and obviously that's where all his fucked up head trauma comes from. Right. But no, he never told Rachel any of that.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

Yeah. He just said, like, oh, your mom like died in a car accident.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

But like, if he knew it was a curse, why would he like keep that from her?

SPEAKER_01 18:42

Exactly. This is what the weight of secrets. This is what that like key theme is. So, one, should have Rachel's dad kept the secret from Rachel.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

No.

SPEAKER_01 18:55

No.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Should have fucking told her that.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

But when is the right time to say, oh hey, by the way, your mother side of the family has been cursed, and you can't get married to anyone unless you truly know that they're your soulmate. And how do you truly know if someone is your soulmate?

SPEAKER_02 19:11

You don't.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

Hello. Okay, so there's that way to the secret. And then once Rachel found this out, she did not tell Nikki. Should Rachel have told Nikki?

SPEAKER_02 19:24

I mean, eventually she does, technically.

SPEAKER_01 19:27

Yeah, but should she have told Nikki as soon as she found out?

SPEAKER_02 19:31

I feel like I feel like um she was still processing it and she was like, this isn't real, right?

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Right. Like she wanted the evidence beforehand.

SPEAKER_02 19:42

Yeah. So I think her waiting and then her and um No.

SPEAKER_00 19:49

No.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

Yeah, find up all that about the marriage and death certificates and Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

All the all the things. Oh, it's so good. It's so good. Um, as the story unfolds, and you're like, oh shit, like that makes sense, and that makes sense, and that makes sense. It had me questioning, which's why I told you. I was like, I really want to do one about this show. I want to tail end it with sure, we're gonna do like a light recap, hopefully get some people who haven't seen it to watch it.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

Um, but to really talk about how do you know? Especially like if if everyone had this curse in your family lineage, yeah. Would you ever actually marry anyone?

SPEAKER_02 20:29

Because you'd be too fucking scared to like personally, if I didn't know for a fact that the person that I was marrying was my soulmate, right? Probably not, no. At least for me, I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_01 20:40

Right. Uh, it's just so nerve-wracking.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Terrifying.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

To hemorrhage from every socket?

SPEAKER_02 20:45

From every fucking orifice of your body? Yes. No, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

Oh god, how painful. Okay, so like the Wait of Secrets, that was the big theme in the show. Another big theme is the initability of consequences. The the fact that consequences are always gonna happen. If something happens, there's always gonna be a repercussion to it. Right, right? So the generational curse fulfillment. This was so interesting to me. So if if the witness, the the ghost I call him, lays out terms and agreements and says, Okay, so you have a wedding, everyone's gonna show up to your wedding, right? Because Nikki does come from a big family.

SPEAKER_00 21:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Um, so again, everyone's showing up. So that means people who are married, who have kids, all the things show up to this wedding. And if you say I do, and Nikki's truly not your soulmate, then you're just the only one who gets to be hemorrhaged. But you have until the sun sets, which I think there it was like the winter time, it was like four or five.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

I think it was four. 48 or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

Yeah, because they were like northern east coast, like Maine almost. Yeah. Um, so super early sunset time in the winter. So he said, but if you don't say I do, everyone's still here for your wedding. The curse will then project itself onto everyone who is there. And if they do not marry their soulmate, they will hemorrhage as sacrifice for you.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

That's right, because um you can they can you can kind of flip it back to Nikki or in his family, like his lineage.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Because it then like switches the curse from her lineage to his lineage. Right. It's like, oh, you don't want to do this? Well, someone's gotta get God.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

So then it'll just go to Nikki's family. Yeah. And then it all curses Nikki's family. And then his bloodline and death.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

That was fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

So again, the consequences of well, you're gonna have a wedding, so like now what are you gonna do? Right. Is it your life or his life?

unknown 23:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

Or is it no one's life because he could be your soulmate?

SPEAKER_02 23:05

At the end of the show, I was kind of hoping that he was.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

Um, but as it unfolded, I really was hoping no, he wasn't.

SPEAKER_02 23:14

Really?

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Yeah. Yeah, there's oh girl, we'll get there.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Oh girl, um, another one is doubt. Okay, so obviously going there, no one knows of a curse, they're happy, they're go lucky. Their story and how they met originally is cute. It is cute until Jules blows the cap off of it.

unknown 23:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:41

Which then puts doubt into her head. Right. Because it's not destined at that point. Right. Because up to that point, she was like, Well, how I met Nikki was like, it was like fate. He has he has to be my soulmate. Right. Jules goes, No. And I have timeline. He basically said, Bitch, I got receipts. I got receipts, bitch.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

She has the receipts.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Yeah. And so he basically said, My brother is not your soulmate because XYZ.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Right.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

And that put all the doubt in her head to be like, Well, shit, maybe we shouldn't do this.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

He goes, What do you mean? She goes, You fucking lied to me. Our whole relationship is a lie. I don't want to spoil how they met and then how Jules blew the cap off of it. If you want to know, you should definitely go watch the show on Netflix.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 24:34

Um that flew like threw me for a loop.

SPEAKER_02 24:37

No, absolutely. It was fucking. It was fucking crazy. There was a lot of like there were so many, like, um, what's the fucking word? My brain's just not walking parking, bro.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

It's the Vaseline Popper. Girl, or the mixed popper. The mixed popper. That's exactly.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

Yeah, yeah. Christ. Um You said it earlier.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

What the fuck is the word? Oh consequences? No. Repercussions?

SPEAKER_02 25:04

No.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

Right. Plot twists. Jesus Christ. I pulled that one right out of my ass.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Perfect.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

You're delicious.

SPEAKER_02 25:15

There was a lot of plot uh plot twists. That's all I was trying to say.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

There really was. Um, it was like so some of them were subtle, then some of them really slapped you in the face. Like that one. Again, I wish the show would have came out for me personally in my earlies to mid hell, even into like my late 20s. Because it's so eye-opening to see how things can actually work out in relationships. Sure. If you're looking from a bird's eye view.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

Because there have been times on the show where I was watching Rachel and I was like, I was in that position.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

Obviously, not with no fucking curse. Cause if here's the thing I would be dead right now, because I have been married. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

I've it obviously In that position.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

No.

SPEAKER_01 25:59

Obviously. I would have bled from every part of my body. Literally. Um so many things like that. I agree with you. It's very, very plot twisty. Yeah. Which I think is what kept me so intrigued. Now, the last kind of consequence is the retroactive punishment of your decision that you make. So again, you're gonna marry him, you're not gonna marry him. You're gonna keep it in your lineage, you're gonna pass it down to his lineage. This is where Jude, the 10-year-old boy, really comes into play.

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

Because he truly is, I think, Rachel's deciding factor. And this is where I think Jules kind of says, I have a son. So if you don't do this because it's already happening, and like you don't want to, I I I understand that because it's your life, but it's also my son's life.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

And so there's always that retroactive punishment of you're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

Basically, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

As soon as she found out the curse, which again, I feel like her dad should have told her, but then again, how do you tell your 26-year-old daughter, hey, you should never get married.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

I feel like I feel like it would be I mean, it'd be a weird fucking conversation for sure, but definitely doable.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

If he had the footage. I don't like if my dad told me, like, hey, you shouldn't marry so and so. Talking about my first marriage. Hey, you shouldn't marry so and so, why? And he'd be like, Let me just sit you down.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

Watch this video real quick.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Watch this fucking VHS real quick and I'll show you.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

He's like, I got the receipts.

SPEAKER_01 27:35

Literally. And I'd be like, oh shit, wedding, off.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Off, we're done.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

Could have saved me a whole bunch of fucking time. Right.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Yeah, it's crazy. I'm I'm surprised that uh I'm surprised he didn't like tell her to.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

Literally. Um, do you have any like favorite moments from the show? Or oh shit moments that we haven't talked about.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

Um It's kind of tough. Yeah, I mean, we kind of touched base on like the main ones that at least I saw. Uh Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

Um, I'll tell you one that I hated.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

What's that?

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Um when Rachel finally does tell Nikki about the curse. They go into the room for like an hour. And they're just like back and forth with the wheel.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

Wait, yes. The actual wedding?

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

It's crazy that he paused when she was already like committed. Fuck.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

And oh my god. Okay, hold on.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

It's all it's all it's all coming back.

SPEAKER_02 28:37

It's all coming back.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

Ooh, there ain't no out of the way.

SPEAKER_02 28:39

Okay, so that fucking um that juice thing that she had to drink.

unknown 28:44

Ooh!

SPEAKER_02 28:45

I won't tell you everything, but the one part that fucking got me.

SPEAKER_01 28:50

Was it the cum?

SPEAKER_02 28:51

It was actually was not the cum. It was uh Jules cutting off her fucking pinky toe. Her putting it in the glass, and I was like, Like she's gonna drink her whole toe. Please don't drink that. Please don't drink it. Don't drink it.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Girl, but here's the thing. If you're so desperate, would you?

SPEAKER_02 29:09

If I had to. Or just call off the wedding.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

But then it's like the other lineage. Like you still care for this other person. Like, do you want to like ruin their whole lineage? Or do you really just say fuck you?

SPEAKER_02 29:24

I would have been like, suck my ass.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

I'm not drinking my big toe.

SPEAKER_02 29:30

Not drinking my big toe. That's insane. I'm surprised that she um she went through all that that work to make that glass of To not fucking do shit. To not fucking drink it. Like, are you kidding me? Rachel, babe, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 29:44

That's when I was like, Rachel and I are not the same. We're not as similar as I thought we were. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

I'd be look, look, look. She was fucking she committed.

SPEAKER_01 29:51

She did.

SPEAKER_02 29:52

She f she fully fucking committed to that man.

SPEAKER_01 29:55

And then dropped.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

And I was like, well, what was the what was it for? Why'd you do it? Why'd you do that? Hello?

SPEAKER_01 30:02

Hello? Now you're down a big toe.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

Wasn't her pinky toe or something?

SPEAKER_01 30:07

Oh no, no, you're right. It was her pinky toe. Now you're down a pinky toe.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:11

Christ alive.

SPEAKER_02 30:12

Also, just also going back to that scene, she hopped up off that fucking table so fast after she just lost her pinky toe. And I was just like, uh okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

I would have, what's that called? Uh that's not finite Lego. That's a skin condition.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

Wait, what did you say?

SPEAKER_01 30:33

Vertigo. I would have vertigo so fucking bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:36

If I hopped up was like, I don't know, uh I mean I guess it was fine because Jules like Jules stitched her up and everything. So like But like still though, you just lost a fucking appendage on your body. Hell no.

SPEAKER_01 30:48

And watched it. No. Yeah. I can't even watch needles go into my arm when I get my blood drawn.

SPEAKER_02 30:53

Girl.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

Hello.

SPEAKER_02 30:54

Girl. What are we doing? Okay, anyways, I just wanted to. That was like that was my one of my like uh oh shit. Oh shit moments. I was like, okay, well, this is what we're doing, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

Literally. So that was insane. Um, yeah, like I said, I would have had vertigo if I would have hopped up that quick, um, having my fucking pinky toe cut off.

SPEAKER_00 31:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:16

And then not and not do anything with it. I'm just like, oh, I just cut off my pinky toe just for funsies, basically. Yeah, that was crazy. The part I'm talking about is when they're having like this really deep conversation about she's like, Well, what the fuck did you do? Because now, do you not understand, like, if if we don't go through with this, like that your lineage is fucked if you're not my soulmate? He goes, Do you not think I'm your soulmate? And they have like this whole big argument, it's a really good dialogue scene. The part that was so gut-wrenching to me, I watched this part by myself. I don't know where Jim was at. Um I actually had to pause it, remove myself, and then come back to it because I've had someone say this to me and it sucks. It sucks to hear. And he's basically telling her all these fucking reasons why, you know, he's doing this and he did this for her, and what he says is, Rachel, you don't understand how fucking hard it is to love you. And she automatically responds with, I know. And I said, Oh, ooh, pause.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

I'm pretty sure I wrote that down. I was like, Yeah, ooh, that one hurt a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

Yeah, you said, ooh, okay, so being told you are so hard to love fucks with your head so hard. I was like, ooh, it put me back in that mind space from like fucking obviously years and years and years ago.

SPEAKER_02 32:41

Yeah, yeah. I was I was shooketh to my fucking core. Yeah. I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

We needed an intermission for sure.

SPEAKER_02 32:49

But well, so she, I mean, she was like, she's going to school to be a therapist, right?

SPEAKER_01 32:55

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:55

So I'm like, I'm surprised she admitted that as well. Like, I'm surprised she didn't like clap back.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

She's like, but quit fucking gaslighting me.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

Yeah. Um, she handled that whole situation like I feel like pretty well up until like that point where she's just I don't know if it was exhaustion, I don't know if it was self-realization that like maybe I am kind of hard to love, but then at the same time, how you're projecting that.

SPEAKER_00 33:18

Right.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

That's a projection of yourself, I think. Yeah. But she didn't call him out on it. Um, that really fucking sucked. Um, also, I'm not gonna spoil the ending. The ending was a big oh shit moment for me.

unknown 33:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

Uh, we're not spoiling it.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

Oh, do you want to? We could so spoil it if you want to. I mean, I just don't understand the ending still.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

It was a mind fuck for me. Yeah. Because like I don't know. We can if you want. If not, then y'all are just gonna have to go watch it.

SPEAKER_01 33:48

I say we let you guys go watch it because I still don't understand it. I love it. I don't understand how how it happened.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

No, because it didn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

No. No. Um, go watch it again on Netflix. Something very bad is going to happen. Um, and that's kind of like where I guess I kind of want to transition into the latter part of this episode, which is I think the biggest theme of the show. How do you know? How do you know if a soulmate or do you or do you believe that there's only one? Or do you believe in multiples?

SPEAKER_02 34:26

I don't know, honestly. I mean, I feel like I feel like we could probably have multiple soulmates.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

I agree. I agree.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

Um I don't think you can you aren't like restricted to just one. Um, but how do you fucking know?

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Well, here here's where I I come from. Um there are, in my opinion, three types of soulmates. There's romantic, which is a deep transformative love. So, like, Jim. Jim has shown me transformative love in the four years we've been together. Okay, I consider him a romantic soulmate.

SPEAKER_00 35:10

True.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

Okay. There's a karmic soulmate. So people who have taught you a lesson who have come into your life to put you on the right track. So if we like were to jump back to like our, you know what I'm talking about, to our uh doing it for the plot. So like for me, that kind of jumps back into a karmic soulmate for someone that I was in a situationship with because this person put me on the right track to find my romantic soulmate in gym. Right. Right? Okay, I have one of those. I have a karmic soulmate, and then I have platonic soulmates, which are friends who understand who you are on the most deepest form of level, which I would see you as you're my platonic soulmate. Yeah. And I'd hope to find you in every lifetime because I feel like you know I feel like we should.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

I mean, earlier, I mean, earlier you text me or you sent me something. I don't know, I don't know what it was, but or no, I was watching a TikTok you sent me, and you were like, uh it was something about soulmates, I think. Yeah. And you were like, you commented on it, and you're like, uh I think it was, I think this is a threat is what you said.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

Yeah, I said and I was like, oh, I said and this is a threat. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:26

And I was like, oh cute, soulmates. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

So I consider like us platonic soulmates.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

Um, so I've always been a firm believer that there's not just one person. No. Oh my god, how like crazy how crazy would that be? Yeah. Um, do you have or do you do you have or have you had romantic karmic platonic? Now that you kind of see it in in that kind of transformative light.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

Um, I'd say I've had a lot of karmic uh soulmates. Sure. For sure. A lot of uh learning lessons, maybe a little too many.

SPEAKER_01 37:06

For your taste or your liking.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

Yeah, yeah. Now that I think about it and now that I've actually like heard the definition of it.

SPEAKER_01 37:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

Yeah, girl. I don't think the universe wants me to find my romantic soulmate.

SPEAKER_01 37:18

I think it's great when I asked you earlier, like, would you do it? You're like, no. I think that's because you've had so many of the karmic versus the romantic that you're like, I've been burned. I feel like I would have died.

SPEAKER_02 37:31

Girl, I've been lit on fire. Ten relationships ago. Right, right, lit on fire.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

Burn at the stake.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

I'm telling you, the universe is out to fucking get me.

SPEAKER_01 37:40

Well, we gotta change that.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

He said, and moving on.

SPEAKER_00 37:47

Um anyways.

SPEAKER_01 37:49

So obviously, for our our listeners out there, there is a romantic ideal, traditional views that there is only one person out there for everyone. Like if we were to just entertain that, I don't know if I even could entertain that because to me that's so boring, and to me, that's so um, gosh, that's so if you believe this, guys, I'm so sorry, but it's so narrow-minded to me.

SPEAKER_00 38:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:20

That I can't form the idealism of having to search my entire life for one person and then just like fingers and toes cross that it's the right person.

SPEAKER_02 38:31

Right.

SPEAKER_01 38:32

To me, that's too much.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

You definitely have to be more open-minded to it. Um, but like I was saying, you definitely I mean, there's not you can't be restricted to just one fucking soulmate. Like that's it's it's ludicrous. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

I don't know. I don't know if that's us being more liberal in that.

unknown 38:50

I just took another popper.

SPEAKER_01 38:52

He did. His little popper. No, I don't.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

It's just an inhaler. Just smell it. It smells like menthol.

SPEAKER_01 39:00

Oh, that's nice.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

It's refreshing. Oh, that's nice. You should get one, bro.

SPEAKER_01 39:03

I should get one. It might replace my nicotine addiction.

SPEAKER_02 39:07

It's so good. Anyways, because I like that.

SPEAKER_01 39:09

I like that. Woo! Poppers.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

It's like $2.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

Oh, really? Weird. At the Wally World? Yeah. Oh, per. Um, I think we're just more liberal with that. First, I think if we were raised more conservative and we stayed conservative, I feel like people would maybe maybe our answers would be different.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 39:30

But we've also experienced so much life and so many different walks of life and people and backgrounds and and idealisms of of life. I think it's just I can never wrap my head around just one person.

SPEAKER_02 39:43

Absolutely. No, I I totally agree.

SPEAKER_01 39:46

So I think we fall more into the reason, the season, the lifetime.

SPEAKER_00 39:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:51

So the season, the one who comes in when is most needed. Rather, that's romantic, rather that's karmic, rather that's platonic. Like you came into a season of my life and stayed.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 40:08

The reason, the karmic.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 40:11

The lifetime, those the actual soulmate, the one you choose to spend the rest of your life with.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

By the way, guys, this is the first time I'm hearing this, so I'm like processing and I'm like, oh, this is a lot.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

You're like, oh my god, I'm in therapy.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

Right, right. And it's free.

SPEAKER_01 40:27

And it's free therapy, and it's live and it's great. Taking more poppers.

SPEAKER_02 40:32

Oh, so good.

SPEAKER_01 40:34

And of course, that idealism is exploring different ideas and different people who enter our lives to fulfill specific spiritual and emotional needs at different stages. Um, obviously, I don't even want to ask you because you're just gonna say, yeah, I'm gonna say, yeah. And that's what we believe versus the romantic ideal or the traditional, to me, it's like traditional ideal. Sure. Like the Christianity Catholic, you know, yeah. One and done. And that's just not again. I would be dead.

SPEAKER_02 41:05

So yeah, I probably would be too. Actually, you know what? No, I wouldn't, because I wouldn't say I do. No, you'd be like, fuck y'all, I'm out.

SPEAKER_01 41:12

Yeah, you'd be like, um, I remember like this one time, like your phone went off, and uh no.

SPEAKER_02 41:18

Yeah, have fun imaging.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

Literally, have fun with your lineage, not my lineage.

SPEAKER_02 41:23

Right, right. I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_01 41:24

Shut up. Okay, so to kind of wrap it up, I kind of asked you the question.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

What's that?

SPEAKER_01 41:36

So I'm gonna ask you, did you think that the characters were actual soulmates? Rachel and Nikki, I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_02 41:48

No. I didn't I didn't see it. But side note, um, did you see oh wait, no, it would give away the fucking ending.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

It would give away the ending.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

I want to talk about it though. It was so fucking cute. Do you know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_01 42:02

Which part? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Between Jules and I was like cute. So cute. I like that. I was like, oh, you I was gonna talk about that.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

Like, that was my one of my favorite parts, but then we were like, we weren't sure if we were going to uh reveal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:22

It just kind of shows that I guess we can kind of say that Jules and Nell were going through a rough patch and they contemplated divorce. And let's just say that them choosing to not divorce was the best decision they could have made for each other and for Jude.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

Yeah, absolutely. So it was so fucking cute. To go back to your question though, uh no, I do not think they were soulmates.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

Do you think they were?

SPEAKER_01 42:48

I think only because of the ending, which still confuses me. I think that they were soulmates, but not romantic. Like if we go back to those three categories, they were he was a karmic for her.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:01

And maybe that's why the ending happened the way it happened, because technically a soulmate is a soulmate, which then plays on to why I want to do the episode. Yeah. Because I was like, well, fuck. That's the only thing I could think of that had the ending in the way it did.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

That would actually make a lot more sense.

SPEAKER_01 43:17

Right.

SPEAKER_02 43:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

Which I I love that.

SPEAKER_02 43:21

I think we're gonna have to do a part two of this.

SPEAKER_01 43:24

I think you guys should should say we want part two so Brandon can get us part two and we can do it in time.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

I just want to talk about the ending. That's all.

SPEAKER_01 43:31

Just the ending of something bad. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

That'll be a very short part two.

SPEAKER_01 43:35

It will. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:37

Let us know what you think, and until next time, I'm Brandon.

SPEAKER_01 43:41

And I'm Ashley.

SPEAKER_02 43:42

And this is committed technically.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

Okay, bye.