Sinister Lullabies

Some secrets don't stay buried; they just vibrate at a frequency we aren't meant to hear. 

This week, Brandon and Ashley are breaking down Undertone, a film that proves the most terrifying things are the ones left unsaid. Deep diving into the suffocating atmosphere, the distorted reality of children's lullabies and the spine-chilling final frames.  

Grab your headphones Committed Gang and listen closely - because once you hear the undertone, there's no turning back. 

Distribution: Buzzsprout

Editing and Production: Riverside.FM Studios

Music: "Good Things Take Time" by Otto.mp3 and Upbeat

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Um that's not crispy.

SPEAKER_03 0:05

No, that's sinister. That's what that is. Right. Right.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

Now that is quispy.

SPEAKER_03 0:18

So that sound? Not your crispy, but that audio is what important sounds like.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

I still live.

SPEAKER_03 0:27

So we're gonna talk about undertone today. Are you ready to talk about undertone?

SPEAKER_00 0:31

I have to fucking literally not.

SPEAKER_03 0:33

Ah, too bad. Okay, let's chat and yep about this committed gang. A recent movie that was screened at Sundance Film Festival picked up by A24 Phil Production and released to theaters earlier this year. Today we are recapping New Age Horror in Ian Tucson's feature debut undertone. Fair warning, there are spoilers and some uncomfortable descriptions coming. So please embrace yourselves. Alright, are you ready? Not really. Sure. You rewatch this film. How many times?

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Four times now.

SPEAKER_03 1:42

Christ.

SPEAKER_00 1:42

I'm probably gonna watch it again.

SPEAKER_03 1:44

That's better than my one. Okay, so before we jump into it, are you doing anything for Memorial Day weekend?

unknown 1:53

Drinking.

SPEAKER_03 1:56

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:58

Yeah, probably not shit. I'm probably gonna be playing No Man's Guys in my ass.

SPEAKER_03 2:03

Enjoy all the time on that.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

I had today off too, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:07

Yeah, I know. I was Snapchatting you and I was like, are you not at work? You're like, I called out, and I was like, I love that for you.

SPEAKER_00 2:17

If you're my manager, you're not listening, you didn't I didn't say that out loud.

SPEAKER_03 2:20

No, I said that out loud.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

I just giggled. I can neither confirm nor deny.

SPEAKER_03 2:29

Okay, let's jump into Undertone. This movie. Okay, so you remember when we were talking about horror, and I said that like bring her back gave me almost physically ill. Like so this movie did it almost make me physically ill. It just made me very uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Uncomfortable, unsettling very unsettling. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:55

And it's all like not how you would normally to me it would feel in a horror movie. Um it's like there's people who watch horror because it's like body horror, like a terrifier.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

Yeah, like gory.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

Gory, so body horror, uh, visual horror which ties into the body horror. But this was on a totally different level.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

It didn't like portrayed as like a like a regular horror movie.

SPEAKER_03 3:20

No, and it's all audio-based, which I think is the most unsettling part, is it really does depend on the score. So how the people score movies, um, scoring I mean by using like music and and stuff like that. So when you score movies, it's supposed to give you that extra feeling of whatever. This movie was nothing but a score, and it fucking rocked my shit. It is insane. So I think the best way to kind of jump into it is to do a little story background for people who may either one have seen it and just kind of tried to put it in the back of their minds, like maybe we did. Um or people who haven't seen it quite yet. It doesn't give away everything. Okay. Um so story background, our main character is Evie. She moves back home to take care of her dying mother. She's on hospice, she's pretty comatose. Um, her mother was pretty religious in a Catholic setting. Evie grew up that way. As an adult, she's not so much into religion anymore, which I feel like a lot of people I know who grew up in a super like sacro religious household kind of follow in that as they grow older. Yeah. Um so Evie and her friend Justin have a podcast called The Undertone, which I think is super country, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

Yeah, I saw that and I was like, okay, that's fun.

SPEAKER_03 4:43

Yeah, The Undertone. Ooh, that's fun. Um Justin does not live in the States. He's he's actually a um a voice-only in this movie, and he has a UK connection. Um, so they just kind of podcast. Uh I love how they do that. I'm not techie smart to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

When I saw how they did it, I was like, how the how the fuck are they doing that?

SPEAKER_03 5:07

How does that work? Brandon's like, damn, we need to try that so I don't have to come into the recording session every time.

SPEAKER_00 5:13

And these motherfuckers are like calling thousands of miles apart, you know? Literally the struggle. Anyway, I was I was gagged, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

For sure. We need to do a teaching one-on-one with Evie and Justin.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 5:27

Come teach us. So their podcast called The Undertone. It is a podcast that's like a lot of podcasts nowadays where it's horror or supernatural based and they tell stories, right? Um the thing that I like is that Evie is more of a skeptic. I think it kind of falls back onto her Catholic upbringing, maybe. Or the or the Catholic upbringing and then the rejection of the Catholic religion.

SPEAKER_00 5:53

She's more like a like a debunker almost. Yeah, yeah. And he's and Justin's more like a believer. Yeah. He was like, I'll believe anything. And then Evie just kind of like kills his vibe. You're dumb.

SPEAKER_03 6:05

So it's like us.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

Brandon, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 6:08

Justin is Brandon, and I am Evie. That's great.

SPEAKER_00 6:11

Slums the shit right all over me.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

I saw this thing earlier that said I would use my last dying breath to rage bait you, and I thought, yes.

SPEAKER_00 6:20

I'm pretty sure you've sent that to me. No, no. My my man sent that to me. I'm like, I hate her here. I'll get rage bait by my man and my fucking wife. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03 6:30

Hello. We're just building up a tough character, a tough noodle.

SPEAKER_00 6:34

I just want to throat punch both of you at the same time. And I say it with love.

SPEAKER_03 6:39

Sure. Yeah. I mean, we could both probably throat punch you at the same time because you have enough neck for both of us to hit.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

Alright. Let's simmer down forehead. Okay, 50. I'm sorry. Five head.

SPEAKER_03 6:52

Do we want to compare?

SPEAKER_00 6:53

I got a forehead girl.

SPEAKER_03 6:55

No, you don't.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

Give me.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

Forehead.

SPEAKER_03 6:57

I could fit my thumb.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Forehead.

SPEAKER_03 6:59

Anyways, we're off topic. Sorry. So they talk about horror, supernatural tells. Evie's a skeptic, Justin's a believer. They make a very interesting podcast because they offset each other. One day they are doing kind of like what Brandon and I do. We sit down and we write drafts before we go into a recording session, just to make sure we have everything down, right? Well, Justin gets a 10, like gets 10 audio files from a weird email. And he kind of is like, should we open it? Should we not? She's like, yeah, fuck it, open it. And so they agree to play these on the podcast and then evaluate each file as they as they go. So the files are about a couple named Mike and Jessa. Jessa who talks in her sleep, she sings London Bridge. And then when Justin plays it backwards, this is kind of where we're gonna get to in the podcast. He plays these lullabies backwards. He can hear her saying Mike kill all. Evie then researches her children's lullabies and discovers something very sinister. Have you ever researched like um lullabies to have any type of other meaning? Or was this the first time ever hearing about it?

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Um, I haven't personally, but when I obviously knew that we were gonna do this podcast about this movie, and I was like, it's kind of interesting. So I did look it up and I was like, what the fuck? These are for children.

SPEAKER_03 8:31

I know. It makes you never want to sing a children's lullaby to your niece ever again.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

Right, exactly. Which I will never be doing.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

Man, bad bunny all the way. Oh gotta raise them right.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Did you did you though?

SPEAKER_03 8:42

I did. Um, so obviously looking into the movie, I researched London Bridge again, Baba Black Sheep, and then uh I knew the story behind uh Ring Around the Rosie. I learned that in high school from my world history teacher. Shout out Mr. Pritchard, I know that he's passed on um now.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

Yeah, I can't believe I never knew that. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Yeah, I had to tell Brandon.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Yeah, because I've I mean I've never heard of it either.

SPEAKER_03 9:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:10

But it makes sense now.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

With the black plague. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 9:14

Just these like innocent children lullabies or sing alongs that just dying from Yeah, the black plague.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

Black plague. Popsies in their in their fucking pockets.

SPEAKER_03 9:24

Jumping off of fucking bridges, throwing kids off bridges, and um shaving the sheep until they kill them all. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Honestly, it's it's very vibey. I love it. I'm here for it.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

It's kind of cut, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:34

Yeah, it's cut too.

SPEAKER_03 9:35

Um, so that is the background to the story before giving everything kind of away. Uh there are character profiles, like I said. There's Evie, the skeptic, Justin, the believer, and then there's mother, the one that she's taking care of. She's a loomie, she's silent, she has a presence that is pretty comatosis in a medical bed upstairs. So while Evie records, she records downstairs in the dining room to connect with Justin, and then mom is always in the bed. Yeah. I've never seen her once leave the bed.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Sort of.

SPEAKER_03 10:05

You know, until even.

SPEAKER_00 10:06

I don't know if you caught any of those like random little parts when she was there in the room with her mother.

SPEAKER_03 10:11

You know, yeah. And I think that again, I was we're gonna get into like the cinematography side of things. I had this huge, like, I don't know, come to podcast Jesus moment where I was like, are horror fans smarter than like any other type of fan? Hear me out. Because in horror movies, especially in something like this, there is a something called a static camera, so a wide shot camera, and they use a lot of negative spaces. So they purposely they sure do.

SPEAKER_00 10:47

They sure fucking do.

SPEAKER_03 10:48

They purposely focus in on like let's say Evie, right, trying to do a recording session. But if they pull out that static camera and do a wide shot view, right, you're gonna get a whole bunch of negative spaces, and then you're like, why are they pulling out? It's because they want you to look at the bigger picture, always look at the bigger picture. And I feel like even when I don't watch horror movies, I'm always finding myself looking at the bigger picture because there's always something going on that they're not wanting you to see, or vice versa.

SPEAKER_02 11:15

Right.

SPEAKER_03 11:16

So that's my hot take. I think horror movie fans are a lot more, I hate I don't want to say it's like smarter, but I mean more self-aware, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

No, absolutely. I mean, I think like with the like you were saying, the static cameras like and the negative spaces. I never really pay attention to that until I watched this fucking movie, and I was like, these bitches think they're slick. Like, I know something's gonna pop out in the back.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

You say, wait a damn minute.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

But nothing ever does. I mean, they they do technically. Yeah, it's just very, it's very subtle.

SPEAKER_03 11:49

It's very subtle, and if you're not really paying attention, then like you're gonna have to like hit the reverse button.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

I don't know. I caught a couple. Yeah, for instance, spoiler go for it. Um, Evie was checking on her mother. I think she was giving her her meds or something like that, and she was like opening the bathroom mirror thing. Yes. And you can it so the mirror closes really quickly, but you can see if you pause it, you can see her mother standing right behind her in the mirror.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

And her mouth is fucking open, and I'm like, okay, I don't like that.

SPEAKER_03 12:23

It's like those little things that, like, if you weren't paying attention, you're like, Whoa, what the fuck was that? Yeah, you know. Uh Jim and I saw this in theaters at the Dolby Cinema. Every time we we have a movie that we really, really, really want to see, we tried to go opening weekend because here in good old Wichita, Kansas, at the AMC, I swear to God, they leave movies in the Dolby Cinema for like maybe a weekend if you're lucky. And they take it out and they replace it with something else. Um, so Jim was like, no, we're going. Because I know this is something that you wanted to see. And there were moments where I was like, wait, what was that? Or like Jim would catch something, he'd be like, Did you see that? And I'm like, what the fuck are you looking at? Because it's so subtle.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

Yeah, the background.

SPEAKER_03 13:04

Um, so I'm quite jealous that you got to like catch those moments.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

I'll give you my my uh Apple TV, you can watch it.

SPEAKER_03 13:10

How long do you did you rent it or did you buy it?

SPEAKER_00 13:12

I bought it.

SPEAKER_03 13:12

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

You bought it, girl. Twenty twenty dollars.

SPEAKER_03 13:15

Twenty dollars like you have it.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

Yeah. I'll give it to you. You can watch it if you want. If you don't, I understand.

SPEAKER_03 13:22

Man, there are just so many like things in this movie that like I said, it's just super uncomfy, it's super unsettling. Spoilers are talks of like miscarriage and um uh infant infant death. I mean, that's what this demon does and kind of goes with the mother and like exploits all the all the mother's worst fears, which is the death of their children. Right. Um that's why he hides himself within children's lullabies. So it's very, very, very um as a woman, I feel like very unsettling.

SPEAKER_00 13:55

As a man, yes, it's absolutely unsettling. And you're like, I don't even I can't even produce a child, so I mean you can. You know what I mean. I don't have I don't have a pussy. I do have a pussy, but I don't have a pussy.

SPEAKER_03 14:08

He has a budussy, a boy pussy. See, I just rage baited him again.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

Let's take a break.

SPEAKER_03 14:32

So into the movie. Um, this is where people who have seen the movie you're probably gonna know what we're talking about. If you haven't seen the movie and you're still sticking around, I love you so much, um, you may not get this. But then you might. I don't know. Maybe you've seen movies that kind of resemble something like this. I have a couple of deep cuts, deep dives into the undertone, one of which being how it mimics. And I don't think you catch that if you unless you're like really, really paying attention, or maybe you've seen the movie a couple times. Um talking about so Evie ends up finding out that she's six weeks pregnant when she's doing these audios with Justin. It comes to be revealed in these audios that Jessa is also pregnant and that that's kind of affecting Mike kind of makes excuses. Well, maybe it's because you know you're pregnant and you're like you're sleeping weird, and so you're talking in your sleep or whatever. She starts a sleepwalk, and then that gets super weird because she ends up in the nursery all the time, and you know, blah blah blah. So Evie is definitely one of those women that she know, like she's I say like she's around like her mid-20s, late 20s.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

I'd say late 20s, probably. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:47

Um, but she knows kind of like I'm not ready to do this. Um, I can tell that the man that she's with, she doesn't want to be with him. She's like with him, like out of obligation almost.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

She's definitely thinking about her options for sure.

SPEAKER_03 16:00

Yeah, and she ends up confessing this to her comatose mother that she feels like she's not ready to be a parent, she's unfit to be a parent, and so she's contemplating abortion, and she's struggling with that because of her Catholic upbringing, knowing that that is um very much against those quote-unquote rules that the Catholic Church has.

SPEAKER_02 16:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

So there's mimicry with that because also in those audio tapes, Jessa is like, I don't want to say she's battling to the point of like abortion, but she definitely has the same kind of mindset of, well, am I really gonna be a good mom? I feel like if you're if you're ever like a first-time mom or you're pregnant and like you're about to welcome in a baby, it's your first round or your first go-around. I feel like that's a very common like mindset. Um, am I gonna be good at this? Am I meant for this? Um, so I feel like that's a very normal mindset that that Jessa's in, and same thing with Evie. Uh so there's a lot of mimicry between Jessa and and Evie in that situation.

SPEAKER_00 17:01

See, and I never noticed it until you are saying it now, and I've seen this movie literally four times, and I'm like, oh yeah, like they're in the same like situation and and whatnot. I don't know if Jessa was also contemplating, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:16

So I think it was just the mindset. I think that's kind of what I got. I I think her and Mike were happy. I just think that she had that first-time mom doubt of am I gonna be good at this? This you know, is this something that I can do right now? Yeah, blah blah blah. Uh, there's also a location twist, too. So as you kind of hear these audios and you're listening, you're like, wow, that's weird because Mike in Jess's house is laid out just like Evie's house. Like it's literally the same house. And if you're watching it and you're catching that, you're like, these are red flags. Something's feeling a little off about this.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

See, this goes back to the mimicry. I didn't didn't even notice. I didn't even notice until you're bringing that up.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

So I'm like now you're learning something new. You're gonna go home and watch it again.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

I'm gonna rewatch it tonight. I have to.

SPEAKER_03 18:08

You feel like, god damn it, Ashley.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

Well, no, but because like you you notice like the little things, and I'm like looking at the big fucking thing. The big picture.

SPEAKER_03 18:17

See, we make a good team, you and I. Um, and of course, I keep bringing up like the Catholic religion and and how that that plays a lot. This movie is very religion-based. Um personally, you want a little facts about myself and even like Brandon. We did not grow up religious, I don't think.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

No.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

At least, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

I no, not at all.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

No, we never went to church growing up, it was never a thing in our household.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

I was forced as a child, but that was with um my aunt and her ex-husband. His parents always made us go because I was always with my cousins, so but I'm like put on your Sunday vest. What the fuck am I doing here?

SPEAKER_03 19:00

So who's the man on the fucking cross? Like that naked man on the cross.

SPEAKER_00 19:05

Why he got holes in his hand?

SPEAKER_03 19:08

Sorry, Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

My apologies.

SPEAKER_03 19:11

My apologies if you even exist. See, now that's a whole topic. That could get us cancelled. But you wonder what it might be worth talking about every once in a while. So speaking of the man with the holes in his hands, uh, crucifixes are used a lot. Prayer is used a lot in this movie. The only thing is that the undertone flips it, how crucifixes and prayers are supposed to be a source of comfort for people of religion. It is a source of dread as the movie goes on, I think. Would you agree with that?

SPEAKER_00 19:41

I could see that, yeah. And how it just turns into like this whole big It was it wasn't a thing, and they kind of made it into a thing.

SPEAKER_03 19:48

Yeah. There's also a lot. I mentioned some cinematography talk about those static cameras with the wide shots and the negative spaces. Um, there's also some spotlight versions of cinematography. They do this fucking amaz this guy, for this being his like debut film, is gonna be a genius in the horror movie genre.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 20:12

Um, he did this transition with noise canceling headphones to room sound. Fuck me. Every single time that she would put on the headphones, traumatic. I was about to have a nervous nervous breakdown.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

I was gonna say an aneurysm, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:26

And then taking off the headphones because she was it's like when you think you hear something. I think if anyone has noise cancelling headphones, especially if you're by yourself, you kind of like take them off every once in a while just to make sure things sound right. Right. Well, she did that, and every time she did that, I also wanted to die.

SPEAKER_00 20:44

That's because she thought she heard something upstairs, which she did.

SPEAKER_03 20:47

Which she did, and then she'd go check on Madre, and she's comatose in the bed, but was she really? No.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

No, absolutely not. That bitch was running around.

SPEAKER_03 20:58

Girl, she dancing, toe dancing, like you. You know what? Jimmy just came home not too long ago and showed Brandon a memory that Brandon forgot about with King Neptune and himself and some old friends of ours, and I have me just like breaking my ankle.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

Girl, I don't know what happened. You were trying to do the shuffle, you were trying to do the Miguel Miguel Uklon. You were doing good, and then you just girl, your your legs buckled.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

My big fat ass just went down for the count. I don't know, I had it been like super high or like I think you were super drunk.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

I think you were both.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

That would make sense.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

Because we were doing a lot of that back then. I don't know why my accent just changed, but all the way back to and yonder. All the way back to and yonder.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

Okay. Um, so there's that transition between taking headphones on and Off. That was crazy. We kind of talked about it a little bit the backward masking theory of reverting children's lullabies. And if anyone is ever curious, it is a thing, which is why I will never be singing children's lullabies to anybody. The only one I would feel comfortable with, and it's only because it's historical base, is Ring Around the Rosie. Uh, but if you ever want to go look at it, Brandon and I highly suggest that you prepare yourself before going to look up these nursery rhymes and reverting them backwards because they are very disturbing.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

Like I said earlier, I I didn't even know that until I watched the movie and I was like, I was curious, and I was doing like research and shit, and I was like, no.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

We're not gonna sing that to your niece. I don't want that.

SPEAKER_00 22:47

No, thank you. No thank you.

SPEAKER_03 22:50

No, thank you. So yeah, there is that factor too. They use a lot of labor breathing as well as percussion and persuasive elements to a score. Again, a score instead of photography is just sound. Um the labored breathing, real really towards the end of the movie. I was very uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

I see, I was like wanting to crawl out of my skin and just Are you talking about um like her mother doing the labor breathing? Oh, like the death rattle.

SPEAKER_03 23:19

Yeah, the death rattle. Yeah, um, and then kind of towards the end, which that um like the ending credit audio and a lot of that, um, very unsettling. Everyone in that theater, like I said, Big Jim and I, we went, saw it in Dolby, the guy sitting next to me literally looked over at me and said, Well, I guess I'm not sleeping tonight. The whole theater was very uncomfortable watching it in that type of aspect. I ha I can't even imagine for you because you said you watched it with headphones at home.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

I watched it with noise canceling headphones on Macs and the dark, no lights, right back to my room. And I kept hearing like some thumping, and I thought it was Baileying, but no, I don't know what the fuck it was. I had to turn off the noise cancelling, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 24:09

You're like, I can't fucking do it. It's like the have you seen those TikToks where like you watch something scary and the guy goes, ah, and then he turns his phone over and it's hot dog! That was me. Yeah, that's how I would have been if I had to watch it at home.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

Um so you guys should actually.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

I'm gonna give you my Apple TV. Yeah, if you bought it. Heck yeah. Jimmy Boyd, you too.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

You can watch it with headphones though. It's even more terrifying.

SPEAKER_03 24:37

I think he would shit his pants. I think I would shit my pants. Um there's also kind of going into like the climax of it. We talked again, religious, religious, religious. Evie, even though she didn't really believe in the religion her mom did, she knew her mom was a devoted Catholic, and so she prayed over her mother the whole time that she was there.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

Right.

SPEAKER_03 24:58

Until the very end. Um when things got kind of more intense for Evie with the pregnancy and the audios got worse, she just stopped praying for her mom. Well, that was the problem was you stop praying, you stop being quote unquote protected, and that veil falls. That happened. The final jump scare as well. I didn't mention a death rattle. If you don't know what that is, um, it's what people going into hospice do when they're dying. Towards the very, very end. Uh, spoiler alert, mom does die. Well, you know, as horror movies do.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Does she though?

SPEAKER_03 25:35

Does she really?

SPEAKER_00 25:36

Or maybe nobody knows. It was in the dark.

SPEAKER_03 25:43

He's so good at this.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

Did you think about that? I did. That was that was one of the questions. I actually never like showed it.

SPEAKER_03 25:48

You just hear her screaming and then and then you hit that fucking audio credit that made me want to jump out of the fucking theater.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

I took my headphones off.

SPEAKER_03 25:59

No shit. No. If I could have taken my ears off, I would have taken my ears off. That was ridiculous. That was so fucking good. The jump scare at the very end where a dead mommy is in the bathroom. And she goes up to the room and there's all like again, spoiler, very, very triggering, there's a whole bunch of dead infants on the wall and drawings of this demon. And then mom's in the bathroom, and she's supposed to be dead. And then it cuts to just darkness. Darkness and Evie screaming.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

Like I that's what I was saying. Like, was it her fucking mother that was dead, or did Evie actually die too? Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 26:34

Big ending. And I don't even know. I I I guess it that he really leaves it up to you. Like, what do you think? What what do you think? Brandon Scott.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

Uh I think the demon. Uh I think he possessed the mother and then he killed or she she killed Evie.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

So then you think they're both dead.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

Which is why I heard which is why I think that she was screaming because her mom was attacking her.

SPEAKER_03 27:03

So do you think that now she's in the audio?

SPEAKER_00 27:06

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 27:07

If it passes on, like if Mike and Jessa.

SPEAKER_02 27:09

I assume so, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:10

Because here's the other thing is like there were people calling in. You can call in to undertone. Uh Evie and Justin had call-in options for their fans. And there are people towards the end of the movie calling in saying, Well, what about the baby? Well, what about this? Are you home? Is your door locked? And of course, this is all happening around like the 3 a.m. uh time frame where it's like the demonic hour and whatever, whatever. So did they get added into that voice call? If she died, is she in that rotation?

SPEAKER_00 27:43

I mean, he's a demon, so I won't. So you think probably.

SPEAKER_03 27:46

I'm thinking probably.

SPEAKER_00 27:47

I mean, what do you think though?

SPEAKER_03 27:49

I think that's a really good analysis of the the ending to the movie. I think that she did die. I feel like she had no way out. She called the demon in herself. She was pregnant. This demon is the taker of infants and miscarriage and all the things.

SPEAKER_00 28:08

That's another thing. Why the fuck would you repeat what Jessa is saying?

SPEAKER_03 28:12

Over and over. Like, please.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

Backwards.

SPEAKER_03 28:14

Hello?

SPEAKER_00 28:17

It's just insane. I'm like, these fucking white people, I swear to God.

SPEAKER_03 28:22

These white people in this white people horror movie. Crazy.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

Crazy.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

So now that we are all traumatized all over again with this movie, what would you rate undertone? Would you do one through ten?

SPEAKER_00 28:36

Like what I'd give it, I'd give it like a solid nine for sure.

SPEAKER_03 28:40

Why do you say that?

SPEAKER_00 28:42

Girl, you have this wrote down. I have to think about it.

SPEAKER_03 28:46

Come on now. Why would you give this a nine out of ten in today's horror movie genre? What makes this so different than like anything else?

SPEAKER_00 28:55

Well, like I said earlier, it's just like it's a different kind of horror. Like it's not like your typical like jump scares or guy with a fucking knife, shit like that, you know. It's very like unsettling. Yeah. It's unsettling and the fucking cinematic shots and shit like that.

SPEAKER_03 29:11

It's very fresh. Yeah. It's very fresh. Something else that's very fresh that I really want to see that just came out that I've seen. So this the movie had a budget of uh $750,000, $750,000. Obsession.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

I'm going to see it tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

Are you really? Okay. So that's a movie I I'm very excited to go see. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 29:31

It looks fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_03 29:32

I heard got so many good reviews. It got over millions of dollars on the box office hit over the weekend. Um, that's new. That's fresh. I like that shit. Um, it's very different than what we're used to seeing.

SPEAKER_00 29:43

I'm excited. That bitch looks crazy.

SPEAKER_03 29:45

Yeah. Um, so I would agree with you. I definitely gave it a nine out of ten. I was very uncomfortable during most of that movie. It's it like I said, Rotten Tomatoes, fresh. I loved it.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

Very good movie. I loved it.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

Very good movie. It was to me, it was slow in the beginning, and that's the only reason why I give it the nine out of the ten.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

But it definitely was a buildup for sure.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

100% a buildup. Um, okay. We also haven't done this in a while. Uh, so we're gonna lighten the mood a little bit, okay? What current song is your favorite? What are you listening to?

SPEAKER_00 30:19

Um, right now I've been listening to a lot of Slater, specifically Beat Up Chanel's. Very good. Um, just bitches. Anyways. I know. Jimmy Boy is just creeping over there. It made me laugh. Anyways, uh, Beat Up Chanel's by Slater. Uh it's kind of like EDM, but also like rap, too. She's very good. You should listen to her.

SPEAKER_03 30:52

I will.

SPEAKER_00 30:53

What about you? What have you been listening to?

SPEAKER_03 30:54

Uh, I just heard this song over the weekend and I have been listening to it most of the day today. It's called She'll Come Around by Pretty Bleak. If you ever want some really good alternative rock, just take a ride with Big Jim in the car. Jim has the most um we talk about fresh, fresh music, under like ground artist, artists you've never heard about. These people, I got when you listen to them, they're not from here, you can tell. So they're like British or they're Australian. They look British. I don't know if that's stereotypical or not, but they look British. Okay. Um, very good, very alternative rock. It kind of they kind of sound like um the 1975.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

Okay, I love them.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

So definitely check them out. Um yeah, she'll come around's my favorite one right now.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

Hell yeah, brother. Welcome it again. Thanks for tuning in to this sinister episode. Until next week, I'm Brandon.

SPEAKER_03 31:52

And I'm Ashley, and this is Committed Technically. Okay, bye.