Mini Goats Are Not A Retirement Plan

The most dangerous thought is the one that sounds calm: “What if I just quit?” We go there, out loud, and we don’t pretend we’re above it. When work is heavy and life is loud, the brain starts shopping for an escape hatch, whether that’s a new career, a simpler routine, or a full-on fantasy where your biggest problem is naming a mini goat. 

We dig into what the quit feeling really is: burnout, boredom, stress, or growth showing up as friction. We talk about the difference between “this is hard” and “this is wrong,” and why giving yourself permission to imagine options can actually pull you back from the ledge. We also get honest about the unsexy part of change: the lifestyle math, the boundary problems that make everything feel 24/7, and the truth that independence is hard to give up once you’ve had it. 

Then we hit the part nobody warns you about in entrepreneurship and business ownership: identity. When a business is tied to your name, selling it or stepping away can feel like losing a piece of who you are, even if the deal is amazing. We talk through fight or flight, how to spot when quitting is the right decision, and why the people around you matter so much when you’re making big moves. 

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Transcript

Slightly Salty Welcome

Voice Over 0:02

Welcome to the Group Chat Goes Live, slightly salty edition, where your three favorite troublemakers turn the chaos of the group text into a full-blown weekly show. We're talking real life, real opinions, and just enough sass to keep things interesting. No filters, no perfection. Just three women with big personalities, bold stories, and a habit of saying the quiet parts out loud. So grab your drink, brace yourself, and join us. Because the group chat didn't just spill the tea, it went live.

Why We Want To Quit

Adrianne 0:33

All right, ladies, today's episode. I feel like every once in a while we all are in this phase of life where you think you want to quit your current career, uh, but you know you're not going to quit. Right. So how do you talk yourselves off the the fun ledge when you think you're just done?

The Mini Goat Escape Plan

Leanna 0:55

Well, yesterday I sent my husband your bills of yeah, of these little cute mini goats that jump. Oh, you guys are I love those mini goats. And I was willing to give it all up if I could have a farm with just one cow.

Kerri Ann 1:10

Can we just get the two of you off the farm thing? We can go pet them. We could pet the cows, we could pet the goats, we could do all those things. But the farm thing is not us. It is not you guys. No, with your matching jewelry and all of the stuff that goes on and the matching jewelry on the cow.

Adrianne 1:29

No, I would totally dress up a cow. We could have like color extensions in them. We could make so much.

Kerri Ann 1:35

Why don't we just find someone that has it and then you guys can go do all these crazy things and then there are these.

Adrianne 1:41

We could do a girl's trip to milk and honey. I know they keep showing. Would you go with us? We just scrolled off of the topic.

Kerri Ann 1:47

We really did. But just stop with the farm animals. Because you guys don't even like to be sweaty. Why would we be sweaty though? Just you don't like to be because you have to be outside. And if you have farm animals, you have to work. I feel like that's about the job. Okay, so now Terry and Jeff are farmhands. Okay. All right. Well, I know Brian's not gonna do it. He doesn't even want the dog that we have, let alone anything else. Okay. I know. Moving on to quitting. Quitting. Quit your ideas about farm animals and move on to the topic.

Turning Panic Into A Choice

Leanna 2:20

Go. I think it it helps when life is rough, even if it's good rough. I think we can all agree that if something is hard doesn't mean it's bad. Sometimes it's hard because you're growing. Sometimes it's hard because you're in new territory or you're exploring things. I think when things feel tough, for me, I like to imagine that I could live here goats. Right. But I know as crazy as that sounds, so your goat is my prosecco. Yes. All right. There. Now I understand. But that's what gets me back on track. And as lovely as it was that you just reminded me, I'm not a farm person. I'm also married to someone that's like, you don't like dirt. Just don't do that. And so, I mean, I know that that's not real, but sometimes it's nice to pretend that maybe. I think that part of it is the peacefulness.

Adrianne 3:17

I think it's so not so much about like farming.

Kerri Ann 3:20

Is this podcast about farming now? It's about quitting. Okay. Anybody that's listening wonders, what the hell are we talking about?

Routine Boredom And Lifestyle Math

Adrianne 3:31

This the peacefulness. Okay. Like when you're thinking about wanting to quit. I mean, I feel like for me, one, every 10 years of my life, I've changed careers because I get bored. And so I've been doing this now for a long time. And I feel then I feel like, okay, am I not challenging myself? Like, am I over this and I need to go do something else? And then that's why Chad and I have five other businesses in mind. But I think sometimes it's just like you get so it's so the same routine all the time that do I mentally am like, okay, what else do I need to do to challenge myself? You know, like could I add another like 20 veals shirt? But do I want to do that or do I want to go do something that seems a little more peaceful?

Kerri Ann 4:13

And I only really want to quit things when they're really tough and I really don't want to, but I just maybe don't see the way out at the time.

Leanna 4:27

Yeah. I think we live, all of us live very big lives. I think most people would say we're probably big personalities. I don't necessarily see it, but we're we live big, right? And I think in that bigness, there's a lot of weight that uh other people probably don't see or feel. And it's nice too, whether it is a farm, I won't talk about the farm. I'll just say whether it's that idea of like I'm going, I don't have to do this anymore. And allowing yourself that space to just make it feel like a choice. I am going to choose to continue to do the hard thing. I'm gonna continue to choose to grow, I'm gonna continue to choose whatever versus I have to. To me, when I stop and pretend that all of this can go away, it makes me feel empowered because I'm like, no, no, no. I could do that, but I don't want to because this really is more important. So I don't know. I think when I feel like I don't have a choice, I get panicky. So I need to mentally let myself feel like it's a choice. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, I definitely have to have the choices.

Adrianne 5:41

I mean, Terry keeps me reeled in of my choices because you who knows. We'd live in other states and who knows what I would probably have kids and who knows how many animals. Oh, yeah, I would take in everybody. And so Terry's like my keeping me on on trap on not, you know, quitting a thousand things. Yeah. But I also think our personality is like you say, we live big when I think about quitting, and then I'm like, but I do like my car, I do like my hair done, I like my nails, yeah, I like to eat out whenever I want. Like I that type of reality is like, okay, this is why I do this. Is that, you know, if you like the life I live and what you've created, yeah. So then I get back to the grain. Jeff goes down the budget as well.

Leanna 6:20

He's like, we can totally live, because I'm like, we're gonna live more simply. He's like, would you like to give up your hair, your nails, your appointments with Jeanette? Like, what your your trips, your girl trips, our cruises, like which of these do you want? And I was like, or I'm gonna go work harder. Thank you for that reality, Jeff.

Adrianne 6:39

Because I don't I can't terrize me that all the time. Yeah. He's like, you really like your time and what you do. And I agree, I do. And I also don't want someone else to tell me when I have to work. Like, I can't imagine someone telling me when I have to show up and stuff. So of course I'm not gonna quit. I'm gonna go do my own thing.

Kerri Ann 6:56

Yeah.

Adrianne 6:57

What about

Costco Dreams And Boundary Problems

Adrianne 6:58

you?

Kerri Ann 6:58

I've had those days where I walk in the house and and nothing against Costco. But we're saying, Well, listen, everybody, you have to say these things because then you people will get upset. But I will walk in the house sometimes and be like, I'm just gonna go work at Costco. Now I know that Costco is not an easy job, and I'm saying I don't, I'm sure that I don't want to upset anybody that works at Costco because when I go into Costco, I can't even sometimes imagine what they have to deal with. But it just feels like you just go in, you clock in or punch in or however you do it nowadays. Put your graph card in the clock, I don't know. And then you do your job, and you know, and then when your job's done, then you do your clock in or clock, I don't, you know, that machine. I don't know. And then you go home. And it's and that's it. Because it's literally 24-7. Because again, we've talked on every podcast about Carrie Ann and her boundaries, which I am working on. But those are the times where I feel like I want to quit because it's just constant. But the other side of that is that I think if someone came to me and said tomorrow you have a choice of the businesses being done and just doing whatever you want or not, I I would have a complete panic attack because I love what I do.

Selling A Business And Losing Identity

Leanna 8:30

No one prepared me for after selling the business. Yes. Right? Like everyone's like, oh wow, that's the dream. That's what everyone aspires to do. And yes, I was beyond blessed with, you know, kind of how everything fell into place. But the first day you wake up and you don't have a million decisions, or my emails and my texts weren't blowing up, I was like, Well, it was kind of an identity like crisis for because like, well, then who am I? And it's really easy to walk into a a room and people go like, oh, what do you do? And I'm like, Oh, I own I I'm just Liana, you know what I mean? And and obviously we're we're navigating those waters again with business ownership. But it is really you think that you want nothing, and then you get nothing, and you're like, what do I do with this? Which I think is also that simple life that we talk about, right? Like we think we want it, and if someone gave it to us, we would be like, but what do we do all day? Like what how do you feel your time?

Kerri Ann 9:33

Like what's gonna be. Because something was forcing you to change something within your business, and it was gonna be growth. And we had talked about the fact that you wanted to grow, but then when it got forced, you're like, I don't want to do it. We're like, wait a minute, that's what this whole thing has been leading to. Yeah. And you were you said out loud, I just gonna quit. Like, I can't do it that way. Yeah. Because the unknown was like the dream you had wanted. Yeah. But you did get past it. And look what happened because of that.

Leanna 10:18

Yeah. I had growth in that moment, and you guys were like, This is exactly what you said you wanted. Yes. Now go do it. And I said, No, thank you. And then you guys supported me and believed in me enough that I was brave enough to take that next step. And then when we got ready to sell, I won't ever forget. We got the offer. The offer came in and I called you, and I was like, I don't think I can do this. And you were like, Is it a bad offer? I was like, No, it's over asking. And you were like, But that's what you said you wanted. I was like, I know, but and then I talked to you, and both of you guys were like, This is exactly what like this is another growth moment. And again, both of you guys pushed me through it, and I'm so glad you did, because I think inherently, if it was just me, I would have stayed safe.

Kerri Ann 11:08

Well, a lot of it was like you said, your identity and what you had built. It was it it was your baby, yeah. It's got my name on it. Like it's not like a question, it's to who it belongs to.

Fight Or Flight And When To Walk

Kerri Ann 11:19

So, do we think, like, as we reflect, is the feeling of I want to quit just a signal of learning or gross that maybe just inherently we all just boil it down to this is hard, this is tough, or I'm frustrated, I just want to quit.

Adrianne 11:39

Yeah, I mean, I think it's honestly like a fight or flight type of response when you get stressed that you're either you know you're gonna stay and fight through it or you're gonna fly, you're done. And I think, I mean, I think all of our personalities are I mean, for a moment we're gonna think about flying, and then we're going to fight and do whether it's make changes or grow or whatever. And sometimes quitting is a good thing.

Leanna 12:01

Yeah, something that's not worth it.

Kerri Ann 12:03

If something doesn't fit any longer, yeah, like a relationship or business or a job or whatever. Sometimes the other side of the quit feeling is that that's what you really need to do.

Adrianne 12:14

Well, and I think sometimes the quit feeling makes it trigger that you have to make a decision. Like, is it worth it? Is it not? What's causing this you know, issue that I feel like I want to quit? And then maybe it is a person or client or a situation that makes us then reevaluate what are we doing to make sure. And I agree with you on identity. I mean, really, all three of us, our businesses are built on our names. It's us, it's like when it's gone, you know, it is an identity thing. Like, what are who are we next? What are we doing? Because even our community, we're all so involved in the community, and they only know us by the businesses, really. And when it's not there, then now what are we doing? You know, we're launching more businesses.

Leanna 12:58

Yeah. I think you know when when it's time to stop, I knew it was time to sell the business. Even when things were going good, yeah, I still wanted to be done. There wasn't a hard moment that I was trying to get through that I knew I had to push through. It was like, no, I have the team, I have the systems, I have the income. All of these boxes are checked, and I still want to be done. Like I was ready to be done. Like that's a totally different conversation.

Adrianne 13:27

Yeah. But I felt like you were very confident. You knew exactly what that's why when you called us, we were like, no, this is time. Like you knew, and it wasn't like you made a quick decision. No. Like you knew what you needed, where you needed it to be, what you wanted to do.

Friends Who Push You Forward

Leanna 13:42

And yeah. But I think it also comes into play. I mean, as we're talking about it, that's why your circle is so important. Oh, right. Because you're right. If it's a fight or flight moment, I'm with, I've surrounded myself. God has allowed me to be surrounded by fighters, right? When I'm like, I don't think I want to fight. You guys are like, no, that's who you are. Step into the uncomfortableness, right? Versus having people around me that are like, oh, you know what? You're right. This is hard. Let's just turn around and go home.

Kerri Ann 14:11

Or if we're in a position where we want to fight, then we look at each other and go, slow down, sister. You might want to sleep on that one. Yes.

Leanna 14:20

Yeah.

Kerri Ann 14:21

Very true. Yes.

Leanna 14:22

Very true. Coming from the person who's never been in a fight in my whole life.

Kerri Ann 14:27

That's why we lean into Adrienne. We'll push her in front. She's a tail pictor. She will take care of us of course. She's taking her jewelry off and taking her flip off.

Leanna 14:42

That's awesome. I think we've been in a ton of fights in in life. Never with my hand. I wouldn't even know. I might push you. And then be like, she's between her and Jeff, we're good.

Kerri Ann 14:59

I'm good. Yeah, Brian doesn't fight. Just that would be that's yeah. That's really oh no, no, he does fight. Oh, okay. I was gonna say he would fight. Yeah. Oh yeah. But now that he's older, he he knows that he doesn't want to hurt that. That's scary.

Adrianne 15:14

Terry was the thing. That would be the scary one. I know.

Kerri Ann 15:19

Yeah, but then the alternatives of how to fight get a little scary. Like, oh, what is he gonna do? Let's not get that far with that.

unknown 15:30

Yeah.

Kerri Ann 15:31

Impossible. All right, circling back to the question at hand. Last thoughts.

Adrianne 15:38

I don't know if I really have any last thoughts. I just feel like I want to like what you just said, like when you have your circle in the right circle, they tell you when, when it's right to fight, when it's right to fly. So I feel like that is probably one of the most important pieces.

Leanna 15:52

Very true. I'm just wondering, what is it gonna take to get you into our farm life with us?

Kerri Ann 15:57

I'm so not ready to give it away. I love animals. I would have so many animals all over the place. However, just the like when so Brian got me Luke when I was 50 years old. It was his wonderful thought of getting me a puppy at 50. It was, and I love him. But I think I need less things to take care of. And animals, you have to feed them all the time, and you can't just look at them and put little red braids in their hair. Like I someone's like do you guys realize that I've been with you in so many different kinds of scenarios and the sweaty, dirty doesn't work with the two of you. So I just can't square these animal things. Like go to yoga, the goat yoga, and you'll do it, and it's fine. Be done. It was probably another thing you guys did, but that was with Julia on that note. Thank you guys.

Closing Thoughts And How To Reach Us

Kerri Ann 16:56

No, the feeling of quit for sure. I feel like that feeling is a signal that something has to change. Yes. And I think we all go through it. And I think that if anybody says they've never felt that way about a relationship, a job, a career, a business, like their doctors giving them some great medications because that is just not real.

Leanna 17:19

And I think it's okay to allow yourself that fantasy or per second when you're whatever that is, right? That one thing that that brings us back to being okay. Yeah. That brings us back to either I am fine to make this choice, or it is time to move forward, or I am gonna grow past this. But giving ourselves a space just to be like, I don't have to do this.

Kerri Ann 17:44

And I'll just sit and sip my prosecco while you guys sit at the petting zoo and I'll watch you and take pictures. And that's how we'll deal with it. And then go home.

Adrianne 17:53

Okay, sweet. Tell us your thoughts. See you next time. Bye.

Kerri Ann 18:01

Now we are at goats. How did we get to goats with her goats? I do love a little goats though on the video.

Voice Over 18:08

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