#35 - Peppie Simpson: The Ocean as Medicine, Whale Song, and Remembering Who We Are

In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with Peppie Simpson about the ocean as medicine, whale song, and what nature helps us remember.

A pioneer of women’s surfing in Australia, Peppie brings decades across surfing, swimming, teaching, ocean guiding, and whale and dolphin work in Noosa. This is a wide, heartfelt conversation about deep connection to water, nature as intelligence, and the ways whales, dolphins, and the ocean can open people back into feeling, steadiness, and wonder.

This episode explores:

• the ocean as medicine for the nervous system, body, and mind
• a life shaped by surfing, swimming, and deep relationship with water
• Hawaii, Joan Ocean, and extraordinary experiences with dolphins and whales
• whale song, dolphins, and animal communication
• nature as intelligence, subtle signals, and remembering who we are
• songlines, migration, and listening more closely to the natural world
• grandmothering, guidance, and simple ways of living well
• Noosa waterways, the Everglades, and connection to place

Guest bio:

Peppie Simpson is an ocean guide, surfer, swimmer, teacher, and lifelong water woman based in Noosa.

A pioneer of women’s surfing in Australia, she founded the Victorian Women’s Surfing Association, which later became the Australian Women’s Surfing Association. She is a 2x Australian surf champion, a multiple state surfing champion, a 4x world champion in surf life saving ironwoman and swim events, and was recently recognised with both an Australia Day Award for services to surfing and the Noosa Festival of Surfing, and the Spirit of Longboarding Award at the Australian Titles.

Through Whalesong Noosa, Peppie takes people onto the water to experience whales, dolphins, songs, and deep connection to nature. Her work also draws on decades of swimming, surf coaching, teaching babies and children in the water, time spent in Hawaii with spinner dolphins, and contributions to whale research.

Guest links:

• Peppie Simpson: https://www.instagram.com/peppiesimpson/

• Whalesong Noosa: https://whalesongsnoosa.com.au/

• Whalesong Noosa Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whalesongsnoosa/

Conversation references:

• Peppie dives deep into dolphin research: https://noosatoday.com.au/news/13-01-2025/peppie-dives-deep-into-dolphin-research/

• Joan Ocean film: https://www.instagram.com/joanoceanfilm/

• Ocean Films: https://oceanfilms.vhx.tv/

• Pea Horsley: https://animalthoughts.com/

Books:

• Dolphin Connection - Joan Ocean

• Dolphins into the Future - Joan Ocean

• Whale Whisperer - Joan Ocean

• Heart to Heart - Pea Horsley

• Animal Communication Made Easy - Pea Horsley

Chapters:

00:54 Hawaii, Joan Ocean, and returning charged by the ocean

04:22 Dolphins, whales, and extraordinary moments

08:54 A life shaped by water, surfing, and Whalesong Noosa

11:44 The ocean as medicine

14:45 Dolphins, communication, and remembering who we are

20:50 Whale song, songlines, and nature’s intelligence

29:35 Grandmothering, guidance, and the Everglades

44:17 Love, focus, and being a dolphin in daily life

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Credits:

Hosted by Samantha Bell in Noosaville, 15 February, 2026 and Violet Town and Noosa, 1 April, 2026.

Produced at the Violet Town, Peregian Beach and Kiama offices, 15 February - 24 April, 2026.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Welcome to the Natural Genius Podcast. We're here to help you tap into your natural genius. Let's go. Peppy is one of these people that you can describe in many, many different ways. She's a surfer, an actor, a mum, a partner, a grandmother, a spokesperson for waterlife, a tour operator in Noosa, where she takes people out to meet the whales and the dolphins and enjoy that incredible area. I hope you enjoy listening to Peppy. It will be a many and varied conversation and quite possibly I'll be in constant awe. Enjoy listening to Peppy. Peppy, welcome to the Natural Genius Podcast. I am I'm so very much looking forward to this conversation. When last we caught up, you were headed to Hawaii.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

How did Hawaii go? Unbelievable, Sam. It was unbelievable. We spent every day in the ocean with the dolphins, the whales, monk seals, um pilot whales, oceanic white-tipped sharks, manta rays. It was just the ocean in Hawaii is just it completely does something to me. I'm still so charged, you know, a month later, um, it really, really deeply affects me. And um the there's you know, like incredible clarity and there's this incredible light in the water there. But of course, I caught up with my most incredible friend, Joan Ocean, and you know, she's in her mid-80s now, and um, you know, spending time with a person who is, and I can say this to you, is pretty much most of the time in 5D. She she's mastered shifting between the two.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

Sorry to interrupt, Pep, but just tell me, like for people who don't know what 5D is the reference, can you just give the layman's version of that?

SPEAKER_00 2:10

So, you know, we we live in this three-dimensional reality, which is really quite a dense energy a lot of the time, and there's a lot of negative forces, and there's a lot of fear. In 5D, none of that exists, it's just pure love. It's like spending time with the whales and dolphins on land. And this woman, Joan, she's in her mid-80s, and the love coming from her, and the vibration and the frequency is so beautiful. You cannot be in anything other than a state of bliss, just being in her presence. So we spent every night with her um doing incredible meditations and talking. There was over 30 um women from all over the world that were healers and um oh, just did all amazing things. So it was, you know, so you can imagine all morning in the ocean and then all evening with Joan Ocean. It was um I've really come back in a it's definitely shifted me again, which is what I was really hoping it would do. Because, you know, sometimes I get really affected by what's going on around me. I'm very much an empath, and especially people who treat people badly, it really affects me and and all the fear that's around. And being there in Hawaii is just really um, I guess, just charged me inwardly. So things that were affecting me before are not affecting me in the same way. And I did have a couple of probably three outstanding memories, if you'd like me to share them with you. Oh my god, I do.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

And I'm also I've got a I've got a split brain right now, Peppy. I want you to introduce you and to hear one of the earlier Peppy, but I'm also very conscious that the now and what's happening for you now is way is so important. So please tell us about those special experiences.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

Yeah, so um very interesting, Sam. You know, they've stopped, they've actually bought this rule in that you're not allowed to swim with dolphins anymore there, which is really sad. So every time we went out, the dolphins didn't appear. It was really amazing, and I've never seen this, but they kept saying, We're not gonna get you into trouble. So they didn't come around, but as soon as the seminar finished and we were able to go to a private beach, I had three hours with them in the water, and it was so magic, and they just brought their love. I had a dolphin swim up to me and gift to me a golden heart-shaped leaf, and I thought the dolphin wants to play the leaf game, and it just kept going past and just giving love, and I just got this very strong message. This is a gift from our heart to yours. Welcome back, because I hadn't been there for a few years, and the last time I was there, I had actually disappeared with the dolphins for a few hours in the bay. And um, where I went, I don't know. So that was that was one incredible moment. I've also been gifted a beautiful song from the Northern Canadian grandmothers that they've asked all the women in the world to sing to honor the waters, and it's the most beautiful song. So we were sitting out one day just on our little private boat, and we I started singing this water song to honor the waters, and this mum and calf humpback whale came right up and sat next to us in the boat, and they did this twice, and the calf was rolling, they were talking to each other because we had the GoPro underwater, filming them, we could hear them talking. It was like they knew this song, they knew the vibration of the words of this song because we're honoring the water, and of course, the water for them contains all the information and all the knowledge that they, you know, they are decoding the water all the time. So that was another incredible moment with this mum and calf. And then one evening we were sitting with Joan in our group, and she started talking about Atlantis, and I was in a great state of mind. I was like, and she started, she said these exact words. She said, In Atlantis, the priests were the dolphins, and I had this unbelievable experience in my body, and all I can say it felt like fireworks going off, and it was like this full body memory and recollection of this. And I burst into tears because there was so much energy going through my body, and then I went really cold and I was shaking like I went into shock. It was the most unbelievable experience. And Joan came up and she said she she held my head and she put her forehead on mine, and she said, We were there together, and it was just like everything became even clearer than it already was about my connection with these animals and the ocean and and everything. So, you know, these experiences don't happen very often in your life, and um so yeah, Hawaii's just next level for me, so it's charged me up ready for my new season.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

Your new season, Peppy! I must admit, we caught up a couple of months ago, and you've got even more vibrancy about you. When last we caught up, you were talking about your childhood. I do always have a bit of a curiosity about family and support structures around people that grow them into the adult and beyond. Peppy, it's so hard to like get all of your many accolades and your many chapters of life in. And isn't that life well lived? Like, isn't that something to be just so delighted by and proud of?

SPEAKER_00 8:54

It's very special. And you know, the older you get, the more you realize there's nothing that you ever do in life that's not connected with something you're doing now. Everything is connected, and it's like I've been in training my whole life for this, you know, and it feels very, very special to be able to talk, to be able to share this knowledge, to be able to go out on my boat and to speak with people. It really feels like a beautiful gift. And I guess the water, you know, I was nearly born in the water at the beach. My mum had to race to hospital and only just made it. And um, and then we moved to England for five years because my grandmother was dying. And do you know those five years, all I did was swim and train in the pool. And again, I had to be in the water, but this was something I I wasn't really aware of. It was just that I guess I was a good swimmer, and you know, people saw that in England. And so I was training with the Olympics cottage coach, and you know, my whole life was was the pool again. And then when I came back from England, that's when I just had to be at the ocean. That's where my whole surfing journey started. Um, when I saw those waves and all those guys out there, because there wasn't any girls then, um, out there riding those waves, and I thought, I've got to do this. So everything I've done connects with that. So, you know, surfing has and is still a really, really big part of my life. And um, you know, I was one of the early pioneers of women's surfing, and now I'm just encouraged encouraging women to surf and also encouraging the master women like myself to keep going. So I still compete um and still surf very regularly. So um, and then I had a swim school for 18 years. I actually still have it, where I was bringing the babies and the children to the water so that they could let go of their fear of the water. Everything has been connected to the water, everything, and it still is, and now, of course, we have our beautiful boat, Wa Song's Noosa, taking people to the ocean and other places actually. Um, we've been doing some beautiful trips up the Everglades here in Noosa, connecting with nature and the nature spirits and walking the land and things like that, which has been really special.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Peppy, let me interject with two extra bits to the conversation. Australia Day Award for Surfing contribution that I noticed in your Minneapolis, and also our dear friend Iris Ray Nunn, that you you're doing one of the everglate tours with.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Do you know the ocean? And I tell this to everybody now because I think it's really important we know the ocean is the greatest medicine on this planet. So even just being by the water, by the ocean, our brains and our nervous system listening to the waves coming in slowly, to the sound of the ocean, to the smell of the ocean. Even before we get in the water, there's this very calming effect. But then when we get into the water, as you go underneath, there's receptors under your eyes that send a message to your heart to slow down. There is so many things that happen when you go into the salt water, it actually charges all your nervous system electrically. We are swimming in salt, which is crystal. It also um boosts all your happy drugs, it increases circulation, so the composition of the minerals of the ocean is so similar to the minerals in our blood. So somewhere we have had this very, very deep connection to the waters. And I talk to the waters all the time, I sing to the water, I sing this grandmother's song, and it's incredible the results that I've been having. It it really, really is. And it's got to the point now where if there's a surf competition, the girls will say, Pat, will you just go down and sing to the waters? So we've got waves this weekend. You know, it's um, and as I say to everybody, you know, for me, the ocean is my very best friend. It is, it is my strength, it is my fitness, it is my health, physical and mental. Um, it is my joy, it is my passion, it's my sport, it's my creativity. It's it's like the best. How do you treat something like that in your life? You have to develop a relationship. So every time I enter the water, I tell the ocean how much I love it. I'm always grateful. Every time I finish my surf, I always turn and thank you and honor the water. I sing to the waters. When we go out on our boat, we actually gift the water, the ocean charge crystals from my water wheel. Um, it's it's you know, when you develop these relationships in nature, it's like the indigenous say, you look after the land, you look after the water, the land and the water will look after you. And it is so true. It is absolutely so true.

SPEAKER_01 14:35

When was the moment, the shift or the extra learning into the composition of water, energy, language, being able to communicate?

SPEAKER_00 14:45

I think, you know, so I've always followed my feeling, my heart, my feelings. And going to Hawaii for the first time was such a life-changing experience, and I have absolutely no doubt that it's my time spent in the water with the dolphins, sharing their knowledge, helping me to remember who I am, that this information comes in. And I know they download information, a lot of information, but what happens is it's released as you need it because it's too much for us to receive all at once. So things come to me all the time, and I know it's come from them, I know they're with me all the time. So I've been there many, many times.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

I've heard this sort of gating of knowledge in indigenous communities from elders as well.

SPEAKER_00 15:41

I I love speaking with the cabikavi. I I go to a meeting every month, and we just sit out in the bush around a fire and yarn. And I love it so much because you learn so much about all these things that I love, and they it really connects, it's so connected to what I've experienced with the dolphins. So I'm sure this knowledge and this understanding, um, which keeps coming, is coming from them and my time in the ocean. So it's not new information to us. We know this, we already know this, and this is what the dolphins and the whales they're like mirrors for us to help us to remember who we are. And this is really such a strong message from the whales, particularly. You know, they as they say to me all the time, we know how much you love us, and you think we are incredible. You are just as incredible. Don't ever forget it. You are just as majestic as us, and they use that word majesty and majestic a lot, they really do. So the whales are actually holding 70% of the high vibrational frequency of this planet. Their work here is absolutely phenomenal. So the whales and dolphins work together very, very closely. I say it's like the big cousins come up from down south. You see the dolphins um leading the way for the whales. When the dolphins and whales come together, they all disappear down. Down they all go for a long time. I'm sure they're scanning each other, they're um exchanging information. It's incredible to observe. And their role here on this planet is to help us to shift and help our planet shift. There's absolutely no doubt about this. And so the heart space, perhaps, like into the fifth dimension you talked about at the start of the call. We really, really needing to shift into that, letting go of the fear, letting go of the resistance, the judgment, um, all those things that are very, very dense energy. And as we shift back into that higher frequency, we feel like we're home because that's really us in our true essence. So, this is what I love on the boat. You know, I take the general public as well, of course. I don't have to say too much. Are you about to talk about some mischief there, Pippi? And and you know, we go out, and honestly, nearly every trip people are in either in tears, um, it doesn't matter how old, it doesn't matter what people believe, their values, their religion. As soon as they see these animals, there's this instant open of the heart joy. And it's so beautiful to observe, it's so powerful. And people say to me, Why am I crying? And I said, Because you are recognizing when you see them, you are seeing something in yourself because they're mirrors for us, and then with an open heart, I can talk. And it's so beautiful, you know. So, depending on who's on the boat, um, I you know, I'd like to talk about so many different things, and this is why I call it a whale or a dolphin experience. It's not just going out and watching them. Oh no, we're not just watching, we are feeling, we are experiencing, we are really deeply connecting with them and the ocean. Um, taking the cubby cubby out on our boat was very exciting. I took them to places where I observed the whales and the dolphins spending a lot of time. I knew it was a special area. I didn't say anything, and I just said, please tell me about this area straight away. Oh, this is a song line here. This is where the dolphins and whales come in. This is where they access the land. It's a portal, they are just as much a part of the land as we are of the ocean. So, very recently I met some elders from WA who actually have the whale blood lines, and they spend their whole time walking the whale lines and teaching the whale message, but it's not in the ocean, it's all land. It's fascinating, absolutely fascinating. So they access these points on land or which are connected with the ocean. Fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

Peppy, was that also because it used to be a water like in the center of Australia, there used to be a water body? What was the telling?

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Used to be oceans in there. So even like the pelican, why does the pelican go back to um the Lake Air region to have their babies? There's plenty of food here, there's no predator, you know, but every year they fly back to have their babies. And I asked the cubby this, why is this? And they said it's an ancient, ancient memory of when inland was all oceans. So this is information that's been passed down each generation, so they are still going back. Yeah, it's incredible. The whole animal migration thing is phenomenal. You know, those whales come up, you know, thousands of miles. There's no food up here. Those mums are producing up to 500 liters of milk a day for those calves to put on about 45 kilos a day, they put on. And there's nothing to eat for those mums. So by the time they go back, they are they're tired. They've really lost a lot of weight. Yeah. It's phenomenal what they go through to come up and give birth in these warm waters. And to bring their songs, of course. So the song's a fascinating thing. And you know, I work with different scientists that say, well, there's only one whale song, humpback whale song around the planet, and they all share this one song. Another one says that the um humpback whale song um is um, you know, there's a different song up one coast and then a different song up another coast. And you know, it's interesting when you talk to the indigenous cultures, and I've spoken with Aboriginal, Hawaiian, um, and Maori, they all said to me that they believe the whale song changes every year, depending on the consciousness of the people. I mean, get your head around that. So their song is matching our frequency of where we are.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

I wonder if people listening to this, that just touched their heart. It totally touched mine. That's so beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 23:22

Yep. So there's a scientist in New Zealand that actually has big computers in the forest recording the cowrie trees all communicating with each other. Now, when the whales come down the coast, the communication with the trees completely changes. And he's totally convinced that the trees are communicating with the whales, and it's all coming up on his computer. It's nature is so highly sophisticated and so highly intelligent.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

We have so much to learn from nature, all of nature, the whole animal kingdom, the whole plant kingdom, and so much to listen to, Pep, because I think the more that I feel more connected with animal water element, wind, plant, the more easeful I can carry myself in the world. Yeah. And feel like maybe that's the letting go of the disconnection that can come from many different aspects of the Western world. There's a increased ease that can come from connecting into the elements.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Absolutely. Nature is speaking with us all the time, and a lot of the time it's very subtle. And I'm I'm observing it all the time now, all the time, because it's always talking to you. And um, you know, when you feel that deep connection, when you see everything around you is this incredible, brilliant, highly sophisticated system of sharing and support. Um, the way everything does in nature, when you feel a part of that, well, you feel that you also are supported by that. You're part of that, you're protected by that. Um, it was really interesting. A few years ago, we had a big bushfire come near around our house, and it was nowhere. We actually went to the Gold Coast um for a presentation. We didn't know this fire was coming near our house. We got a phone call from a neighbor saying, you've got five minutes to evacuate. And you know what was so interesting? I went into shock because I thought of everything in my home and losing my home. But you know what my intuition was straight away was to talk to my big gum tree here straight away. I closed my eyes, I went straight to that gum tree and asked for protection. Now I've never done that. It was just in that moment, I just completely followed my instinct and asked that tree for protection. And the fire went straight past. And you know, I I just I I often sit and observe myself if I'm allowed to just do what feels natural without any questioning. It's really fascinating. It's really, really fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Oh, baby, and if people could get to that stage well before they're a beautiful grandmother like you, that would be pretty awesome. I'm so excited for the future as people become more and more confident and comfortable with being themselves.

SPEAKER_00 26:53

Interesting though, that I observe this with the younger ones. It's almost like that we've got to go through these different processes, and there's a certain time, like Rudolf Steiner talks about this a lot, these seven years, you know, there's times where um, you know, we're going through these deep emotional changes before we come back to the soul, before we come back to the spirit and the spiritual as we do as we get older. And you can't ask younger ones to think the same as because I I wasn't like that when I was younger at all. I mean, there's elements I definitely was, but I think um I was very much on my own growing up, very, very much on my own. I couldn't talk about all these things that I felt and I knew. And whereas now I don't hold back anymore. I've experienced too much, I've seen too much, and I've known I just know too much that, and I know that this is why I've been asked to speak and and do these things, because this is part of my contract, I guess. You know, it's like I've been in this university for so many years, and now I've got to share the knowledge, you know, and help us to reconnect, let go of the fear, connect with nature. Um, it's interesting speaking with uh quite a few carby elders from all around Australia. They all say the same thing that we're coming back to the time of the grandmothers. And it's very simple. It's a simple rule. You get out of bed, you make your bed, you you come out to your family with a smile, and if you're not happy, you go back to bed and get out the other side. You know, it's very, very simple rules. You be kind, you support each other. I I really love it. It is so simple, and yet it's very, very powerful because you know, children these days are forgetting these basic, these just these basic laws of life, I guess, to do no harm. That's the the car, that's the carbi carby lord, do no harm to anyone or anything. Starting from the smile at the start of the day, right from the beginning of the day, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

Yeah. Tell me what you love about being a grandma to your blood grandkids, but I think you're a grandmother to many.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

Oh, look, I've got six grandchildren, so I've got three granddaughters who actually live on the property here with me. And um they I I love sharing time with them. I love their their joys and their youthfulness. I love the fact they love so many things, the same as I do. So we're very, very close. Um, my oldest granddaughter is very involved now with acting, and that was, of course, a very big part of my life for a long time. Um, and she's just so involved, she just loves it so much. So, what I love is that I can help her, I can share things with her and um teach her things. Um, yeah, I think it's just the joy of the youth because at heart I'm still such a kid, I'm such a kid. And um, my mum was the same, she was always in even in her 90s, she said, I'm never gonna grow up. I'm always going to be childlike. And we're all in our family, all the females are very, very childlike. So I love spending time with these beautiful children. Um, I feel also after speaking with these beautiful carby grandmothers, that also it is my role to set boundaries and guidance for these young ones because there seems to be a little bit of a lack of that in this generation. And we need, you know, and and so much, even though these girls are not allowed to have very much media at all, and they don't have phones or TVs or anything like that, you know, really connecting with the important things in life. And um, you know, that's a really special gift to give them because I didn't know my grandmothers very well. I never spent much time with them. So I'm really grateful that I can share this knowledge and they've understand all this information completely. It's it's nothing for them to talk about the elemental kingdom or the animal communication, or they don't know it all. So the Everglades, you know, in Noosa here, there's only two Everglades in the whole planet, which I find incredible. One's in Florida, um, and there's a lot of grasslands in that waterway, um, and a lot of crocodiles, so you can't swim there. Um, so an Everglade system is where it all starts very fresh and then very slowly works its way down through the river system, becoming a little bit brackish, and then more and more salt water until eventually it makes its way out to the ocean, which is of course what our waterways does here. There are bull sharks there. In fact, we were surfing with them this morning at the river mouth, but you know, they've got plenty of fish. Um, they don't really worry anyone at all. But going up into those Everglades, there's an area that I call Elemental Alley, and it's very, very still, and the trees all overhang this very narrow part of the river, and the reflections are so incredible that you don't know whether you're looking up into the sky or down into the water. It's like a complete exact mirror of both sides, and I've taken so many photos there, and I look deeply into these photos, and the faces of the elementals up there is just next level. It is so so beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 33:09

Somebody's not heard the word referred to before.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

What do you mean by elementals? So the elemental kingdom is, you know, um, again, in that high frequency, they're not really living in the 3D like us, they're living in that more that fourth and fifth and higher dimensions. Um, you know, they we talk about the the fairy kingdom, we talk about um the gnomes and the pixies and all these, they all exist in this higher frequency. Some people do have the gift to see them. I have friends that have the gift of seeing them. Um, and they exist, they're all a part of nature, and um so when we're up there, uh the elemental kingdom feels very, very strong. And when I took a beautiful um Pitanjara elder from Uluru up there, she had to lie down on the boat, and I said, Are you okay? And she said, This land is so healing. I have to lie down, and I thought that was really, really interesting that she could feel the healing coming from this land. So we're so lucky that we have that just here. Noosa is a really very, very special area, it truly is. I think that's why I've always been drawn here since I was a child. So it always feels like home because it is healing, and it doesn't matter how many people, doesn't matter how many buildings and you know how many million-dollar homes and cars and all that, nothing can affect the deep essence of this place because it's an energy that you can't change. So, yeah, so I'm very well I say lucky to be here, but you know what, it's not luck. I chose it. You're lucky to be here. I said, No, I'm not. I chose it, I knew this is where my home was. So I I at a soul level I was always being fed, you know, and of course the ocean here is very, very special.

SPEAKER_01 35:21

That's one of the pleasures I have in these conversations, Peppy. I get to see people, some of their steps that have led them to be where they are. And it it is a delight to see that becoming clear for people as they notice different aspects of their life and how things have come together. Do you want to talk about the song at all that you were saying that the grandmothers gifted you at Hawaii?

SPEAKER_00 35:45

It's only a very short song, and of course, it's in their native tongue, and it's to honour the power of the water. They know the indigenous cultures have been honoring and singing to the waters for centuries, and it's beautiful that these grandmothers have gifted this song, particularly for all the women. So, what I do is I when I get on the boat, um, I sing to the east and then the south, and then the uh west and then the north, so the four directions. Um, and if I've depending on who's on the boat, we'll sing. Like the other day, um, had some some really good friends on, and we all sang the water song to the dolphins, and they came right up to the boat. They they just they love it when you sing, because when you sing it's from your heart, too. But when you're singing about what they live in, what is a vital part of their life and their information and everything, they love that we're honoring this water, and you know, so when we sing to the waters, we're also singing to the our own water within our bodies. We're actually 90% water by volume, and you know, there's a lot of incredible information coming out about water now, how it can be programmed and changed. So, depending on what is around water, you can actually structurally change the water. Now, if you can do that with a cup of water, you can do that with your own body.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

With the smile of the day, Peppy.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

Yes, yes, so almost every day I will say I activate my body of water to the frequency of it might be joy, healing, rest, gratitude, whatever. And that structurally changes all the water in my body. You know, it's it's and I can feel it when I say those words, I can actually feel that change in my body. It's very, very powerful. And again, I can't I can't say enough how extraordinarily intelligent um, you know, the water is. And and there's an incredible woman called Veda Austin doing a lot of work with the water, and she at the moment is working with non-verbal autistic children who are actually communicating with the water because of course they can't speak, and the information they're wanting to share is actually coming out, words are coming out in the water, and it again is just next level, just incredible.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

So cool, it is, and from what I've picked up through the telepathy tapes podcast, and also through a dear friend of a friend, Marcus, and his mum that speaks for him through her hands to have language come through, Peppy, when otherwise it would be quiet. Actually, and even recently I shared watching the movie Coda, which is just so sweet. I love how parts of that movie they stop the sound so that you can get a bit of a perspective of not having any sound coming into your mind. As you're talking about those words, language coming out of the water, it's so exciting. We just live in sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 39:20

It is. And that's when it will become just next level again, really. Um so I like to, I'm a kind of a little bit of a bridge between these extraordinary people that are working in this very different level, and then the science at the other extreme, and then as information comes through, um, you know, if I feel it's right, I will send information through to the scientists. So just to start sowing the seed in there, you know, um, of what might be possible in the future.

SPEAKER_01 40:21

I always admire that, Peppy, when I see people who already know the answers to certain things, and then they bring the scientists in uh in parallel to their work so that the rational statistics and the data can be there for others so that it can be more accessible. It's a clever way of doing things.

SPEAKER_00 40:41

Yeah, I feel very strongly that the science is really vital too. It's just you know, it's growing and growing all the time. You know, the work they do is very special, so it's lovely to see both sides of the story. And for me, I'm in the middle and I can put it all together, and it I find that really such a gift, such a gift, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

And Happy, as you say, there's many chapters to your life, and you can bring them all together so that you can talk to many different aspects of life and yeah, how how lucky people are to cross paths like you and I have been.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

You know, looking at life and timelines and things that have that come into your life, and we talked about this a lot in Hawaii. So important when something comes into your life and you feel very moved and passionate about it that you do something about it. Like back in the mid-90s, this book came to me from a lady, and this book was Joan Oceans, and I had such a reaction to this book. I actually put my flippers on and just swam up and down the pool because I didn't know what else to do. I just was so deeply affected by this book. I wrote to Joan, I wrote to Joan and I said, Look, your book has had such an impact on me, I have to come to Hawaii and meet you. And now when I look at just following and acknowledging in myself that I am having a very strong reaction to whatever it is in the bigger picture, but to follow those soul nudges, and it's really, really important to not question it.

SPEAKER_01 42:28

Peppy, that's such a beautiful sentiment because I know there's a couple of different ones that are coming to mind as we're as you said that the soul nudges, and they also come with having to have a bit of courage, too, don't they?

SPEAKER_00 42:43

Absolutely, absolutely, because I thought she's gonna think, who's this woman in Australia? You know, and anyway, as it turned out when I got there, we we're like sisters, we are so alike, we are so close, we have known each other for literally thousands of years. And about touching florists, and that's why it affected me so deeply. But I I wasn't to know that at the time, you know, I was only in my mid-30s.

SPEAKER_01 43:15

Happy to have that feeling of joy and bliss and to see the smile and the happiness on your face. It is just so lovely.

SPEAKER_00 43:24

Yeah, so I think that's a really important thing is to follow those when when the universe is really clearly letting you know something, to follow through with that, because um there's always a bigger picture, you know. So I will just keep continuing doing my trips and spending as much time with the whales and dolphins and sharing with people and exchanging knowledge, and and I'm always saying to the universe, put me wherever you wherever I need to be. I'm open to wherever I need to be. And just look at those little signposts that come up, show me where I have to be.

SPEAKER_01 44:08

You're talking to others that are asking questions like this. How do you help them to balance the need to chop wood, carry water?

SPEAKER_00 44:17

It is. And you know, that's also a really important part of our life because we've chosen to be here in this three-dimensional planet, but things are shifting now. And so we have these choices all the time. And I think even in the 3D, I'm always trying to move with love and understanding and non-judgment. Always trying to be in that space as much as I can. No matter what anyone else does, it doesn't really actually matter. And the more I can in the 3D be in that space, it's a bit like someone said to me, just be a dolphin. Just look at everything and smile and give it love. It's so true. If you I've done it so many times and it just shifts you straight away. Oh that allows you to stay more in that in that that high frequency and that much nicer vibration. But yeah, we're being tested all the time because this planet needs us to be strong. And there's there's no doubt about it. This is not a walk in the park. It's it's you know, it's definitely um, I was actually just talking to people yesterday about how we every day I try and stay focused on this, on my health, on my eating, on my words, on my thoughts, on things that really help create um the best version of me as I can, you know. And um, but being in the ocean is a really big part of that for me. If I don't get to be in, I call it my ocean. I start after like two days, I'm like, I gotta go, I've gotta go, go.

SPEAKER_01 46:04

Nobody getting Peppy's way. You know, I've been really thrilled that many people who are successful that I meet with talk to generosity, and part of their success is being generous and supportive towards others. And I really love that being reiterated, being like a dolphin. So cool, Peppy.

SPEAKER_00 46:28

Yeah, it really is. It's really you know it takes a little bit of practice sometimes because we do get really triggered, it's not always easy, but I'm trying to practice it all the time and getting better and better. When you practice something, you do you get you do get better. Peppy, thank you so very much.

SPEAKER_01 46:46

As I said, I was so looking for this conversation, and it has just been exciting for you.

SPEAKER_00 46:52

You are such a joy to talk to you, Samantha, and I just love what you're doing. I love the name of it, everything. It's just it's really, really special.

SPEAKER_01 47:03

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