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INSIDE THE SHOP - SPOTLIGHT #1: GRETA’S GARDEN - Episode 50

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This is an awesome interview with my friend Chrissy, the owner of the Greta’s Garden Whatnot Shop. She’s been on for two months and has just been on for two months but already has 1200 followers and enough money to go on vacation. Check out this great interview with this amazing Vintage Seller! 

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SPEAKER_00

Hey there, Chrissy. How's it going?

SPEAKER_01

Hey Carrie, it's going good.

SPEAKER_00

How are you? I'm good. It's good. Good. This is gonna be fun. I'm excited about this.

SPEAKER_01

I'm very excited.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Well, we're just gonna pop into it. As you know, you've got some of the questions. So I've got the questions. I'm gonna hit you up with it. But what we're doing today is the whatnot uh why not whatnot spotlight interview. And this is a newbie conversation. And so we're gonna start with all about you and on all of that. So hit me with your your name and your whatnot seller name.

SPEAKER_01

All right, awesome. So my name is Chrissy, and my whatnot seller name is Greta's Garden. So it's G-R-E-T-A-S Garden. Uh Greta's Garden. My nickname is Greta. So wait, my real name is Chrissy.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's because your nickname is Greta, but your real name is how did that happen?

SPEAKER_01

So I have been um we live in the country, and I have over the past few years, if not a little bit more, just kept getting more into my garden and I mean flowers like crazy, growing all the things that I can. And then it's eventually went into like homesteading, doing sourdough bread and canning and making all the things. So um my uncle actually deemed me Greta quite a few years ago, and that's just stuck. So now we have Greta's garden on whatnot.

SPEAKER_00

I love that. I love that. Now you also do that with somebody else, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, with my mom, actually. Um, we decided we talked about it and talked about it, and I'm like, I just don't know if I really want to jump in on it. It's just a lot, I think, but maybe not. And then a few months went by, and then finally it just something clicked in January, and I was like, mom, okay, let's just try it. So sure enough, she was ready to go.

SPEAKER_00

And what's your mom's name?

SPEAKER_01

My mom's name is Heather.

SPEAKER_00

Heather. So Chrissy and Heather, and you're Greta's garden. Okay, and where are you? What city and state are you guys in?

SPEAKER_01

So we are near Lima, Ohio. Um, I live um east of Lima in a little um country town, but um, we are um Lima, Ohio, kind of like northwest Ohio, a little bit south of Toledo. Cool, north of Dayton. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Cool. So is your weather cold there still?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, we have had so we had 70 degrees on Saturday, which was amazing, and it was a little bit windy, but then we just got snow, and my son got canceled from school yesterday. So it's just up and down, up and down. I'm just ready for the warm.

SPEAKER_00

Bipolar weather is what we have. Oh, it's so bad. The other day it was like 83 here in Texas, and then that then we had two days where it was like 54. And I'm like, how does it? Yeah, yeah. So it's different, but um, anyways, well, that's awesome. So your mom is there in every show with you, or no?

SPEAKER_01

For the most part, yes. Um, which I think we'll get into my shows a little bit more, but most of my shows, we're doing them together. But there are a couple shows that um I do by myself, which is when I'm at my house, because I have a small little stock of things at my house, too.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so you're at her house or your house when you're doing this?

SPEAKER_01

Her house, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Why is that?

SPEAKER_01

Because okay, so we started off doing it at my house, and I don't have a very big house, but I have a spare room, which is my office as well. I work from home. So, um, anyways, uh we started off here in the spare room, and then I mean, just like within a couple of weeks, we just were overflowing with inventory.

SPEAKER_00

So mom had inventory in Ohio, right? Is that what absolutely, yes, there really is.

SPEAKER_01

We have, yeah, it's really we have we're really lucky with places to be able to go purchase things. Yeah, that matters for sure. Oh my gosh, yes, for sure. So yeah, so we uh started at my house and then we we transferred everything over to mom. She has this nice big uh closet in their garage and we made it into our shop up there.

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome. Yeah, because it's great that you can leave your house behind and go out. You know what I mean? Like, yes, you shut the door. I I think you know, mine is in my front room and it's open and there's no door to shut. And I just I think that matters. I think if I could change it, I would have a designated space with a door that the door can shut.

SPEAKER_01

So oh my gosh, I cannot agree with you more on that because I really do still have a lot of things at my house and they are looking at me every day that aren't listed. Or I mean, there are good, good things on whatnot, and they're the little monster things too, with having a lot of inventory and not having it listed or things like that.

SPEAKER_00

So, okay, you said you work from home. So, I mean, what's your normal? I mean, what's your life look like? What's your normal week? You work 40 hours a week. Tell me. I do.

SPEAKER_01

I'm a 40-hour work week. Um, I work from home usually 7 to 3:30. Um, pretty flexible though. So, like I'll do a morning show before work, usually on Friday mornings is what I try to do, and that's when I do them here at home. So I'll start at like 6 a.m. and and run for about an hour and then be done, you know, and then go to work or be at work, which is at home.

SPEAKER_00

You're consistently coming on Friday mornings at 5:30. I have I have been. Um, yes. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, consistency matters. That's good.

SPEAKER_01

We're yeah, I agree. And my Friday, actually, my Friday morning shows really seem to do really well as well. Um, we do Fridays and Sundays, and then sometimes I'll have a pop-up every once in a while, but we've only been doing it for two months, so it's been, you know, all learning.

SPEAKER_00

You're a newbie newbie, but you're not an average newbie, Chrissy, because I'm gonna say you have worked it, girl. Some people get on here and they think all they have to do is show the item and then that's it. And you have hustled. Do you well hold on before I get to that? Tell me a little bit more about because right now all I know is you live in Idaho with your mom. Ohio. I mean, Ohio. Ohio. There, you know, I think a lot of people do that to be quite honest. Um but uh tell me family, kids, pets, hobbies, all of that. What do you got?

SPEAKER_01

So um I am married to my husband, Ryan. We obviously live at home here, and then we have a little boy, Ryan Jr., who is eight years old. And then we also have a daughter, Michaela, who is 25 years old, and she is often married and lives in Florida with her husband who's in the Navy.

SPEAKER_00

And keep going, finish that.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, so um then Michaela, um, which yeah, obviously she's not living with us. So um, then we have a couple pets at home, a couple dogs, and then my hobbies, of course, are gardening, which I just also mentioned, um, you know, at the beginning. Right. And then um really thrifting. I love to thrift, so that's one of my big hobbies as well. That's where I have loved this.

SPEAKER_00

Um, what what category are you in?

SPEAKER_01

Uh usually vent vintage, uh vintage home, home goods and stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Have you tried anything else? Just vintage and home goods? Not really. Yeah, um, I don't have it, you know, why why why change it, right? Like absolutely okay. What I was alluding to is that her daughter, Michaela, who is 25, who also works in Florida, she also does shows. Plug her right now.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so Michaela's um is she's her store is called The Mickey Mart, M-I-C-K-E-Y, kind of like Mickey Mouse, but the Mickey Mart, M-A-R-T. So she's my yeah, so she started about a month after us, and she's done really well so far too. I mean, she's very involved and you know, just um I she does a really good job. I'm very proud of her.

SPEAKER_00

See, and what I really love about this story and why I chose you as a newbie to do this was because I think this is what success looks like on whatnot. You know, you hear so many people say, Oh, you know, I didn't, I can't get people in the room and I can't have a show, and it's not. And I think one of the reasons you're successful is number one, your personality and your inventory. I think that's it. Um, but also you've got help, you've got a system, you've got a schedule, you've got consistency, you're talking to people, and then it worked well with you and your mom, and so now your daughter's doing it. So it's a three-generation whatnot success story. And so I think that that is just amazing. So, okay, you've been doing it for two months, and Michaela's been doing it for a month. Tell us how many followers you have because I think this is amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh. So I just hit over a thousand followers a couple weeks ago. I think I'm at 1.2 now, 1.2,000 followers.

SPEAKER_00

So I know I was like, wow. Yeah, okay, we'll get into that here pretty soon. But um, how did you hear about whatnot? Who told you about it?

SPEAKER_01

Actually, um, my sister who lives down in Columbus, she actually told me about it first. Um, back at least in August, if not prior to that. And then my aunt as well. And I'm just like, what is this? I don't need another freaking app on my phone. I'm like, this is just snow. And then crazy enough, I um put one item in a in the buy it now. I signed up as a seller, and then I put one item in the buy it now, like in November. I didn't even know it was a dumb little toy that was like vintage, and I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna throw this on here. It sold in like a month, and I didn't even know it because I didn't check my email. And anyway, so that's how I heard about whatnot. And then after that sold, I was like, hmm, maybe we can really do this.

SPEAKER_00

That's that's awesome. Yeah, so now you're are you gonna get your sister involved in this and your aunt and have like everybody?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I know. So my actually my sister um keeps tossing around the ideas, and then she's just like, I'm just not ready, I'm too busy. She has two very active sports kids, so um, and they're in high school. Well, one's not in high school yet, but anyways, yeah, uh, she's just very busy, and I just don't think that she's ready, but she's a school nurse and she has the summers off. So what why wouldn't why wouldn't she?

SPEAKER_00

Why wouldn't I mean honestly, what a great deal to do. If even if she could just pick one night a week, just one night, you know.

SPEAKER_01

That that's really what it is, because at first it was so overwhelming. And I mean, uh, don't get me wrong, I get overwhelmed sometimes on it, but um, it's like if you can be consistent, my husband knows I do Sunday shows, and then also the Friday morning shows make no different to him because he's already leaving for work. I'm hopping on to do a show. So if you can just do the consistency and then also just know this day is for my whatnot day. And I mean, it's not just the show because you have a lot of other things to do prior and after.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, you've got you've got to factor in shipping and all that. Yeah, okay. So I got a quick question. How do you when you go on Friday? Wait, you go Friday mornings at 5 30. When are you going on Sundays?

SPEAKER_01

So honestly, Sundays have been afternoons, and I don't have a 100% consistent time. Um, I've been offered some um raid trains recently, so we've um gotten onto those raid trains, and then um I just yeah, I don't have a consistent time yet on Sunday.

SPEAKER_00

Um really to be on your Friday. Well, this is you know, me going off script on our stuff, which I think you can handle. Um, so how many items do you think about what that looks like and how many items you're selling each Friday? Do you go, okay, I'm going to be on for one hour. That's typically X amount, and the shipping's gonna take X amount of time because I, you know, I do that.

SPEAKER_01

I know you do, and I need to I need to do that. Um it's honestly uh my Friday shows are smaller than our Sunday shows because Friday I only have what fits in my room, and that's what I have listed for the most part. But um, I usually don't go over like 60-ish items, and then I always have things, you know, in the buy it now bin.

SPEAKER_00

So do people buy a lot of stuff out of your buy it now bin when you're not having an auction? Because that has not been the case with me at all. That's why when you said you put one item. I know that that's crazy because it was. That was luck. That's you know, people I've had people do consults with me and they're like, Can I just stick it in the buy at now and just call it a day? And I'm like, no, I really don't think you can because it's a live sale, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Agreed, yeah. I think so too. I think collectibles, maybe something super collectible would be good in the buy it now, but I think that the way to go is doing it through the auction. I mean the live, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So when you do your packing and stuff, is your mom helping you, your husband, or what everybody I haven't I haven't wrote my husband into helping me yet, but um like mom will help me on Fridays.

SPEAKER_01

She helps me both days, but um, on Fridays, she usually does most of the packing because I'll be working, so that's kind of a nice routine, and she's usually the runner as well, like take stuff to the post office or because she always wants me to be the face, so I have to be the face, and she's usually behind the camera or you know, helping that way.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I know splitting. I think I can ask you this. I think it's okay to ask if if it gets too personal, but you're splitting the money with your mom, right? That's how you guys decided to do it.

SPEAKER_01

So we just did like an initial, you know, investment. Like we pretty much bought out of pocket in the first, you know, just really the first month or so. And then we built up enough sales that we now aren't paying anything out of pocket to buy any inventory. It's it's actually I I'm like actually really shocked. I've never had like a real business myself until now, and it's working so and it's fun, and we get to go shopping with money that we're earning and go on vacation.

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so a couple it's just my play money.

SPEAKER_00

A f a couple follow-up questions, then because I know people are listening and I'm trying to talk to you thinking about the listeners in mind. And I think somebody's sitting there going, How much was that initial investment and what did she spend that money on? So you want to elaborate on that? Yeah, I can try.

SPEAKER_01

I I'm I you know, I'm not gonna give you able to give you concrete numbers, but um, to be quite honest, um, I've always have an ongoing um donation pile. So uh things that have gone through the house, like things I started first with things that I was getting rid of to sell, and that's where it started.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, a lot of things. It's so smart, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we're such over consumers, and I I mean, even in whatnot, I think you can be over-consuming, but you're not purchasing brand new things. Um, so at least in my category in the vintage stuff. But the same with mom. Um, she had um a ton of old China and things that just we don't have like that connection to anymore. Um, so that's really that was what we started with was a lot of our own stuff.

SPEAKER_00

And then um got rid of some of her like lifetime stuff.

SPEAKER_01

Yep, yep, because it was just literally either sitting in boxes and she when she pulled it out, like she would get it out and then she would send text messages to me, um, my sisters, and my daughter, Michaela, and ask if anybody wants anything. And then if nobody wanted, if it was a pass, then it was going in the sale. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00

So, okay, and let me let me ask this just so I got the numbers on this. How old is your mom? How old are you? And how old is your Michaela? I know Michaela's 25.

SPEAKER_01

Michaela's 25. I am 45, and my mom is 67.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, is she gonna kill me? Is she gonna be 67?

SPEAKER_00

No, but we don't even get to see it. She'll be fine. She'll she doesn't even know what a podcast is, right? She she listened, she listened sometimes. Yeah, but she'll listen to this episode. Okay. Oh, yeah, she wrote. So I was this cathartic for her to like get rid and release some of her stuff, or was she having that, you know, separation anxiety with pieces that were important to her?

SPEAKER_01

Well, because if there was anything that was truly important, she kept it.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so I mean, it was just um, there was just not that huge she just the wedge was overwhelmed with having so much. And like her her parents passed, um, I mean, quite a few years ago, which would be my grandparents, you know, and there were things that we wanted to keep and we did, and then we just like she got some um a bunch of things from an aunt, my great aunt from Canada, and it was just over the years, it was just sitting in a box, you know. So she I think she was happy to see it all and go through it, but then the emotional connection wasn't there, so it was it was okay to get rid of it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and I think, you know, really when you stop with any family, my family, your family, you know, any family, we all like if collaboratively, if we pulled stuff together, so like if one member of somebody's family was like, Hey, I want to get on whatnot, you can go and get stuff. I mean, I I was just thinking about my pastor's wife, she lost like 40 pounds and she was like, you know, Carrie, I have a bunch of old clothes from you know, when and you can just start collecting stuff from friends and family and say, Hey, I'm doing this. So instead of taking your stuff to you know, Goodwell or wherever your charity, donate it to me for my business. So I think that that's a really great idea for people, especially young people. I keep talking to so doing consults with young people, and uh they're figuring out where to get this stuff, and that's a perfect example of what you can do. Okay, so yeah, back to the questions. Do you remember having your first show and what that was like and what what was good and what was bad?

SPEAKER_01

And oh my gosh, yes, I do. And it was in January. And I, if you could hear nervous without a you my I had the most nervous voice. I and I'm not a nervous person, but I didn't know what I was doing.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, what do you mean, nervous voice? Like you were, I was really I was I yes, I truly was.

SPEAKER_01

I was nervous, I just didn't know. Like, I just guess I wasn't confident. And I watched shows for multiple weeks prior and um just trying to learn from everybody else. But then it's like when you go live, it's totally different. And I went live as like uh what's it called when you can go live by yourself, like a test run or something. The private showing, yeah. Um, I tried that, and I it's just different when you're in uh and then you have people asking questions your own echo chamber as opposed to in front of people.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. I I never actually did that. I just went live. I never even tried. Um, but did it go good? Did you make sales? Did you get followers? Tell me what that was.

SPEAKER_01

Both sales and followers, and then this one person stuck out to me. Her name is her name's Tasha, and she actually has a whatnot. She is um, oh my gosh, thrift thrifting girl mama. It's t-h r I f I n g-i-r-l m-a-m-a. So like thrifting girl mama. She actually just modded for me, and I didn't ask her, I didn't know her. She's from Oklahoma, and she was the biggest blessing. Wow, yes, and I mean she just did it out of the kindness of her heart, and we have been pretty much friends since. And she modded for me for a few more shows.

SPEAKER_00

And is she new or is she uh she is new, okay?

SPEAKER_01

Um yeah, she's new-ish. Um, she's she sold longer than I have, but yeah, she's new. She's still actually trying to hit her 1k as well.

SPEAKER_00

So do you remember how many items you sold or anything else that happened in that first show?

SPEAKER_01

I do remember about the dang UV lights, and somebody asked me if it was a 365 or a 395, and I'm like, I don't know what the heck that means. Like all those little things that you need to do.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And I knew I didn't have uranium, but I knew it was like Vaseline glass or something. And I just yeah, I didn't know about those light colors, and um, but yeah, it I don't remember how many items. I want to say we've sold like probably 30 items the first show or something.

SPEAKER_00

So amazing. Now, did you have other friends and family come to that show or did you do it without any advertising advertising?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no advertising, no, because I didn't know anybody and I didn't, I'm six. I did throw it on Facebook. Oh, you're okay. I'm dealing with the dogs here, y'all. This is live. Um, I did throw it on Facebook, so but I just don't even recall that I had anybody in there that I knew. Um, I was just like talking to people, strangers, and I was nervous.

SPEAKER_00

After your first show, were you totally overwhelmed with shipping afterwards?

SPEAKER_01

Um, kind of, but I am always I'm one that just will tackle a problem if I have it, and so I did. And and so that's just we we made it work.

SPEAKER_00

Figured it out.

SPEAKER_01

I did, yeah. And then of course I kept referring Tasha to she I she I got her phone number like that night, and she she texted me, and then she helped me with shipping as well. And then after about three or four shows, I finally think I've gotten shipping down, and then listening to your podcasts have have really helped with the shipping issues too.

SPEAKER_00

Good.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so what's your whole overall? Like, if somebody's never been to your show and they don't know, what's the vibe? What are you showing? Where what does it look like? You know, what's the feel? What is that?

SPEAKER_01

So we um I'm just like a happy go lucky person, so I try not to let a lot of things bother me, but we do um a lot of just I know it's I say vintage, but like, oh gosh, you think like Holly Hobby or we have Longenburger baskets, we have old crock pots, um, old rec.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, old crocs, like not croc pots, right? Croc pots, croc pots.

SPEAKER_01

Like from the 70s, not crocs.

SPEAKER_00

Really? Like you've sold an actual crock pot, the kind that plug in? Yes. Yeah, like from the 70s. Yes. I did not know this. I did not know that. Yeah. Wow.

SPEAKER_01

It's it's crazy. And you know, um, we got this beautiful China set, and that sold that wasn't the first show, but I mean, we do have a lot of China actually. My mom really loves it. So when she sees something, then you know, she'll get it.

SPEAKER_00

But so isn't that the biggest pain in the ass, though, to pack that? I had a guy from he was in like uh Canada, I think he was in Canada, and he bought$350 worth of China from me, and it was like 77 pieces, and it was a nightmare. It all made it all the way from Texas to Canada, but I can still remember the stress involved.

SPEAKER_01

I know that's so funny because we had a similar situation, and it was probably close to about 70 some pieces. And and we had this set, and this lady bought we were selling them as a setting, so it was like five-piece place setting, and she bought like three or four the first show, or not like the actual first show, but the first show we had them. And then like two weeks later, she came back and she bought the rest. And I mean, yes, when you ship it, it's like you're nervous. Like, and thankfully, all of those pieces made it without harm. They all made it.

SPEAKER_00

So now, just you know, are you using prior? How are you shipping? And are you using uh the fragile stickers?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. So we didn't use fragile stickers at first, and then we finally, I'm like, mom, we probably just really need to buy some of these um and throw them on our boxes. Honestly, do you think they help? Because I don't know if they do. Um, everything should be fragile when UPS handles it, but it's not.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right. Well, and my thing is a lot of people are like, if you put a fragile sticker on there, especially around Christmas season when they hire extra help, it's like a target. Like, hey, how far can we kick this? I don't believe that. I think I gotta do the best on my end because I can and leave it to God and the postal workers from there on because I I can do so much. So, but like this morning we did packing, and I'm crazy with my fragile stickers. There's people getting boxes in the next few days, and there's like six. I put a fragile sticker on every single side because I want to make sure I did my job.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, if there's something really fragile, I definitely put a lot of fragile stickers on.

SPEAKER_00

But um, do you now look for are you looking for you're out there looking for glass and China because you know people like it and it sells well? So you've done how many shows do you think? Um, probably let's see, two months, how how many do you think?

SPEAKER_01

Probably 30.

SPEAKER_00

30 30 shows, and in that 30 shows, you figured out what open-ended question there.

SPEAKER_01

Sure. Uh, I have figured out that shipping is a bear until you learn it. Um, and you have to pack your things so they don't move when you're selling when you're shipping them. Because I have only had thankfully one, had two, I think, uh, glass items that were broken. Thankfully, the buyer was completely okay with it, understanding, and I don't even think that it was a packing issue, it was just it got broken and shipping. Um, but otherwise, um, I know that I need to be more organized. That's what I've learned, and I'm not. I try to be as much as much.

SPEAKER_00

Well, in what way? Like with your shipping or your inventory. Inventory inventory, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Um, it's hard. It's it's it is it's hard. And I think that if whatnot had a better uh system with their applications, even on the computer, I feel like it would somehow make it easier. Or maybe I just don't know it well enough yet either.

SPEAKER_00

I'm curious to know what, yeah, like that could be if you think of something, I like the idea. I've already said multiple times in different podcasts, hey whatnot, you should consider this, or hey, whatnot, you can should consider that. And uh, I'd love to do an episode that's hey whatnot, here's all the list, you know, of all the things you should do. Not that anybody's listening, but hey, you never we can only hope. We can only hope, but yeah, so when you're doing it, like we've figured out now for us, we go left to right selling out of the one room, and then we put out the boxes and the table and everything, and I have my assistance, and then when we're packing, we move a different direction, so we've kind of got like a groove on the the flow, if you will. Do you have stuff like that for your organization?

SPEAKER_01

No, that's good. Um, the first couple shows I had zero flow and I had no clue what I was going to show live.

SPEAKER_00

And um, wait, did you number your stuff?

SPEAKER_01

Not until the second or the third show, probably the third or the fourth show. And then numbering helps tremendously. And who cares if you know what the number is, but if you type the number into your um, you know, into your whatnot, then you know exactly what the item is. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

So you don't have to label it if it's pictured, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

If you've got the picture there, yeah, and I am not a fan of putting up random items, like I like the pictures, and I know that you are very successful doing it with just the random.

SPEAKER_00

I know you do pictures too, but I like both. I I prefer, like, I've been listing a lot lately, yeah, and I prefer it because like today I had to send something in an 18 by 18 by 10 box. I don't know if you were in the show, you know that big, huge brass and copper camera. Somebody bought it last night.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh. I was on the show, I think, and she asked for it, and then I think I had to hop off for dinner or something.

SPEAKER_00

We went back and forth, you know. Um, she got it for 72 bucks because I was not willing to go any lower. But I had to I had to pack that today, and I there was a point to that, but um, it was it was crazy making sure that you have enough. It's it's crazy. You gotta have enough boxes, you gotta have enough storage, you gotta have a space. There was a point to that. I can't remember. Knowing what to run, I think maybe knowing what to oh, but what I was gonna say is I had to run that for$72 because I didn't have it listed. But oh yeah, I had to this that's where I was going. I had to separate, I had to separate that because it was not gonna fit in another box. It's this giant piece, you guys. It was huge. And um, so I had to unbundle the backs, and that had to go in one and the other things. So when you have the pictures there, when you have the numbers, it's so much easier to do the bundling or the separate. So, I mean, it just takes it just takes time, and you know that, especially with a full-time job. I can't imagine doing this with a full-time job. I just can't, it's it's a lot of work.

SPEAKER_01

It is, and you have the you know, the good podcast about the you know, being a woman or you know, you have to you have to take you have to take time for your family. And I have sometimes noticed it my for myself that whatnot needs to just stay to the wayside for a bit. And I I have to take my family time, but um, I have better systems now, I think, with um listing things and I take pictures, you know, with the weight, and then I can list it at another time. It's not that I have to list it instantly.

SPEAKER_00

So are you are you listing when you I'm I'm curious, like so are you buying this stuff and it goes straight to your mom's house and then it sits there and like it's on a table or something, and then you're listing like 10 at a time, or I mean, how far is your mom? I'm trying to figure out how to we're neighbors. Oh, okay. So that's helpful.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and no, I I bring stuff to my house too. It just depends on the day or what we have, or um, there's really not a rhyme or a reason to where we keep the unlisted inventory. Um, but because I keep some at my house because I want to be able to list if I can, but right, um, I like to be able to take the pictures on my phone rather than using the whatnot app because it's just doesn't take quality pictures, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00

Really? So I uh oh no.

SPEAKER_01

I upload the picture of the phone.

SPEAKER_00

What kind of phone do you have? What kind of phone do you have?

SPEAKER_01

I have an iPhone.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So so the pictures on my phone take well with my picture, like my regular picture phone app, but not on the whatnot app. I just upload them from my gallery.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I bet I'm I bet you get a system and that goes way faster.

SPEAKER_01

It really does. I'm I'm not kidding. It's like I and I used to actually just write them all down by like my hand, and then I would just take my computer in my room, I had my pictures because they're they're connected iPhone to Mac computer. Um, and then I would just sit in bed and I would list them at night, and then it would just be easy peasy. And so now I just go go ahead. That's okay. Now I just usually take the picture, upload it from my phone, but I still do upload it for my computer too. It just depends on the time of the day or what's how many are you loading now?

SPEAKER_00

Because you said you do what 60 on a Friday? And how many, how many are like if I went to your shop right now, how many are listed?

SPEAKER_01

Uh we have like over 200 items in our shop.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. Wow. Yeah, I mean, we really do have a lot of items. I really do.

SPEAKER_01

I've had some days I wonder if it's too much.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, I I once had 547 and I just was going through and numbering some new inventory, and I'm around 80 right now just because I've sold so much in the last few, you know, shows. And um, so I'm like, I don't know if I want to get that high. I see people that have inventory that high, but it's you got to try to find it and you got to keep up with it. So I mean that's the thing. Yeah, I feel like this is honestly after two years, kind of where I'm getting is figuring out that sweet spot because now my assistant Sarah and I were talking about this, and we were like, dude, we need an in incoming inventory place so I can go there first, then go through the process of being listed and checked and Googled and all that, priced and all that, and then find its place on the shelf. And what's what's happening now, honestly, is I have so much stuff. It comes in the house, I decorate with it and make it look cute on the display. And I love that. And then when I get time, I'll pull something, list it, put it back where it was.

SPEAKER_01

So we do have a process that it does not go on our shelf until it's listed. So that is a good process to have because then you'll just get it confused. And if you're pulling from that shelf and you're having a sale, you it has to be listed or you're gonna just mess up.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I said this the other day in a podcast. Like you are, because you are the boss, you are the owner, you have to do employee, you know, reviews, and you have to review what's working, what isn't working. And I know one of the things that I have done that works great in the moment, but isn't great afterwards, is I'll grab a random item and I'll say, even if it's listed or whatever, I'm not spending the time, I'll grab it and I'll go, okay, guys, I'm gonna run this for a dollar. Well, somebody came into the show the other day and they were like, we want this glass face. And I'm like, oh crap. I sold it for a dollar. That's gone. So I've got to at the end of my shows, one of the things I do, and I don't know if I've said this here, is I go to my seller hub, go to my inventory, and I delete all of my you know, inventory that's not there anymore, just so it doesn't block up the system, especially when you're selling, you know, 60 to 80 plus items, it just be overwhelming. So I just get it out of there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it is overwhelming. And it's just yeah, it's a to be organized is the best way to do it, but it's not even that even I think even if you're like super organized, it's still hard. Right.

SPEAKER_00

Right. No, I'm with you. Okay, so quick questions. Um, when you are you're you're getting ready with your time and routine and stuff, you know. I I know you're on, but like how many minutes or how how long does it take you? Like, let's say you're getting ready for a Friday show, how long does that take you to get ready? Because then you got to get ready for work, so you're already getting dressed and makeup. Yeah, like to get the computer, the phone, the music, the lights, what uh all how long do you think it's takes for you now that you've done 30 up, you know, shows?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, it it doesn't take that long. I mean, I if I needed to be done in crunch time and need 15 minutes, then I would be ready. Yeah, like if somebody said, Chrissy, you gotta have a show at seven o'clock tonight, then I could be ready in 15 minutes if I needed to. Um isn't that awesome?

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's it's good. And it, I mean, we have you know, stuff pretty much just set up, ready to go. Um, my morning, early morning shows, I get up, get ready for the day, and then the night before, I do have like my light set up, ready to be turned on, like my inventory is ready to rock and roll. Like I I do prep the night before for those super early morning shows. But um, the Sunday shows, though, too, are really the same. I mean, like I said, everything that's in our cap, like in our shelves that we sell is already ready to roll. So I mean, it's it's good to go.

SPEAKER_00

So now you did say that you're paying for a vacation with this. Where are you going with your vacation?

SPEAKER_01

I fly out Monday morning and I am headed to Key West. And are you really? Yep. I I fly into Key West, and then we actually are staying um for the week in Marathon, which is the Middle Key, if you're familiar or not. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

I actually went there for our 25th anniversary. Went to the key.

SPEAKER_01

Cool, that's fun. Yeah. Um, yeah. So we're we're doing that. It's actually um a girls' trip plus my son-in-law. So my daughter's actually gonna go, and then my mom and my one sister, and then um one of our really good uh longtime friends, like from high school, one of my friends, she's really just blessed us with the vacation, um, with the with the place to stay and everything. And she's gonna be down there too. So it's gonna be really fun.

SPEAKER_00

That is awesome. And how many days is this? Like five days? Yeah, I'm gonna go for five days. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_01

Mom, mom and Michaela get to go for two weeks. Wow, wow, I know.

SPEAKER_00

Do you think that you'll be sourcing when you're there or that you'll be looking for stuff to do?

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, Carrie, yes, I do.

SPEAKER_00

We're gonna have your suitcase.

SPEAKER_01

No, my sister and my mom are driving, they're driving down to pick up Michaela first, and then that's a 12-hour trip, and then another 12-hour trip down to the keys.

SPEAKER_00

So it's like a thrifting vacation, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Kind of. I'm not kidding. We already talked about having a show while we're on vacation, and then we're like, no, we're not doing it, we're not doing it. It's just let's just let it be. We're not doing it on the show.

SPEAKER_00

So are you thinking about maybe doing some more social media? I know um House of Coop is in that same category, I think vintage category, and they go to Florida and they did sourcing just recently, and I know because I followed them on Instagram. So you need to start getting like an Instagram page and set it up when you go on your trip, because then that way you can get more people and more you know, influence and show where you're going. I just look them up and go look up their you should follow them. You know who they are. House of Coop on Instagram. Go follow them, they're so cute. And um, I love seeing. Oh, we met these people and we went to this antique store, and here's what we got here. It's just fun, it's fun.

SPEAKER_01

People like, yeah, they're they seem like they're really good people, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So you should do that, I think.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'll follow you.

SPEAKER_00

Follow me.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, here's the thing. I work full time, don't forget.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, that's true. Well, you're off this next week, though. Well, next week I am, but yeah. But I mean, honestly, an Instagram post can be as little as 30 seconds. I mean, it's not like totally. I mean, it's that's not a whole if you can do all of this, you can do that. It's not like you have to be on every day. Um, you follow me though. Are you following me at Carrie Kennedy71? Yes, because I I only need like 20 more people to be able to get to record videos to a certain amount. You have to have to have a thousand. And I did not know that until just recently. There was another guy on whatnot, and he said, I gotta get to a thousand to do. And I I don't know past that.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't know that either. Yeah, and I'm looking at my Instagram right now, and I only have 651 followers. Well, that's that's not bad.

SPEAKER_00

So I think you can work it, girl. Um I'll I'll I'll help I'll try to share your page right from Instagram side. That would be great because, like I said, I need just 20 more. So um, but anyways, well, hey, what's the other thing I was gonna say? So toward you know, trying to wrap up here, what's your most like memorable, exciting, favorite thing so far about whatnot, or about a show, or any of that? Just give me something.

SPEAKER_01

Uh so this was I had a Friday morning show. Actually, it I think it was my first Friday morning show, and I had done a couple prior like weeks morning shows, but it wasn't on a Friday, and I don't know why Friday just seemed to be a good day. But I had literally sold out of every single item that day, except for about maybe five items. I think I sold like 65 items on a Friday morning, and I had people having bid wars and everything, and I just about didn't know what to do with myself. And I'm by myself because it's so early in the morning. I'm doing it before work, and mom's at home, and I'm like trying to make sure the dogs are outside and my boys getting ready for school. And I mean, things are just selling like flying off the wall like hotcakes. And I just was like so excited and overwhelmed. And I had a couple of moderators, Taco Cat Lady and four spees in a pod.

SPEAKER_00

They were both one of my favorites. I love it. Yes, I know. You know, she's a teacher too, so we had that little pond. And um, I love Taco Cat Lady.

SPEAKER_01

So she's so kind. They were both like met private, like you know, red boxing me or red chatting me, and where they're like, slow down, take a breath. And right. I mean, I was selling like these little lamps that were like going for like$70 that I paid like seven dollars for.

SPEAKER_00

And I'm like, What are they?

SPEAKER_01

They were um uh like those little Aladdin lamps, and one of them said uh Niagara Falls. And I'm like, that is that really cool. Like, oh I mean, I get things that I like, but um, yeah, I just something like that.

SPEAKER_00

I got a fairy lamp for 47 bucks last night, and I think I paid like 12.

SPEAKER_01

So wow, well that's somebody got a good deal, and you got a good deal too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I mean it's a win-win when that kind of thing happens, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Oh I have a funny quick story about a fairy lamp. Mom got a fairy lamp, and you know how you list items, and if you do it, sometimes it automatically goes to buy it now. If yeah, does that ever happen to you?

SPEAKER_00

I'm trying to figure out, I think what not. I I don't understand that. It's happened a lot. I don't either, I don't I'm so frustrating to do with the system and the algorithm.

SPEAKER_01

But it's well, we got the fairy lamp both, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01

My mom listed the fairy lamp and put it in buy it now, and it sold with in less than 12 hours. Like it was an accident. We didn't mean to put it in the buy it now, but it was she did list it for$40, and I think we paid like 12 or 10 for it, but it was we could have probably gotten a lot more money for that fairy lamp, but it just defaulted to that dang buy it now. So you guys have to be careful when you're um listing your items.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that is a good piece of advice. I actually it really is because it's happened a lot. I you know, I allow people to cancel if there's an issue, and I had three cancellations in one show the other day, and I was so sad because one of them was a blue flow china pit. You've seen it, I know you have. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And that I love that piece. She got up to$67. And she said her granddaughter was with her, she didn't mean to keep swiping. And I'm like, I don't know, maybe in a bidding word, like, but I think it was buyer's, you know, regret, whatever. But I let her cancel it, but it got up to$67, and now it's listed, I think, for$42 or$45 or something. But it's kind of like, dang it, you know. I wish that, you know, but it is what it is, and you win some and you lose some. I mean, last night I had something I didn't realize it was on uh what do you call it? The fast. It was on um, oh my gosh, carrying it. Oh, yeah, like um death uh sudden death. It was on sudden death, thank you. It was on sudden death. I didn't even realize it, and everybody couldn't get to it to swipe it fast enough. And I had something that was worth like 20 bucks sell for a dollar. Oh shoot. Yeah, but no, I mean, it's okay. Yeah, and that's what I told her. I said, you win some and you lose some, and that's you're exactly right the way you got to look at it because you can't get upset and stressed out about one bad item like that.

SPEAKER_01

Nope, you know, you can't, you cannot, and mistakes happen.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, okay. So back to advice and wrapping up then here. What is the hardest thing that you think you've had to learn, or a lesson that you've learned the hard way that you feel like you could give advice on, or advice that you would give to somebody preparing for this and and joining in? Honestly, give yourself enough time.

SPEAKER_01

I think timing is important and and just knowing you know, if you're gonna be consistent with the schedule, but just know that it's not just the show, it is more. You have to list your items and then shipping takes way, way longer than you would ever think, right?

SPEAKER_00

Even if you're only selling, I think it depends on what you sell. I mean, I I've sold marbles and records and jewelry, certain things are pretty easy. I mean, records, oh my gosh, you get a 14 by 14 by four and boom, done. Yeah, I mean, so I think it just depends. I think it's harder for you and me because we have fragile all this glass and all this china and all these breakables. Yes, that's we're choosing the hard life.

SPEAKER_01

You're right, you're right. We are choosing the hard life. The hard life didn't choose us. But but you have to make sure your weights are right. Though that's the thing. That was one of the things I ran into trouble with in the beginning was weighing items and knowing the right way after you're completed. Your I know you get like five a week of freebies, like for what not to fix it. But you just gotta make sure it's right because you're gonna go to the post office and you might have used the wrong box, and then you have to get mad because you use the wrong box because of the priority issues. And anyways, it's just do your research and listen. Like honestly, your podcast is very helpful with the shipping stuff.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I think so. So that's good. Okay, so moving ahead now, what goals do you have? Because I really do think you're a hustler. You've joined, you've met a lot of people, you've talked to a lot of people, you're very, very social, you've jumped on raid trains, you know. I think that I think that you just jump in. And I think that's one of the reasons that you're you've got this level of success and you get to go to Florida and all of that. And that Michaela wants, she sees your success, and now she wants to, you know, yes, jump on and and do good. And I think that is what we want to talk about on whatnot. Yes, not everybody is successful, but can I have this on our notes, but why do you think you're successful? What do you what can you trigger to and go? I can point to that, I can point to that. That has helped me. Tell me.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, I honestly think that you just have to keep going. And I mean, I was talking to the air a couple weeks ago and there was nobody in the shop. And if that happens, don't turn it off. Just keep going and just keep running your items. It's going to get better. And if it doesn't get better, it'll get better the next show. I mean, there's definitely different, you know, people come in and out of the shows and they just might not be the right one to buy what you have for sale that day. And it's just you just have to keep pushing forward because if you don't, then you really won't be successful. But um, if you just keep trying and switching up your items or you know, just just just keep going. Just don't, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I always think of the finding Nemo, you know, just keep swimming, just keep swimming. Yes. And you know, even pro basketball or baseball or football people, they don't always, you know, you know, you don't always get the shots, you don't always get the goal. You don't always, I mean, everybody doesn't even the big guys don't always have great, amazing shows. No, no two shows are alike, and so that I think that's good. So let me ask you this since you've already got the vacation and you've only been doing this for two months, are you having dollar goals or time goals or follower goals? What what are your goals going forward?

SPEAKER_01

Um, I really don't have any dollar goals. Um, I just don't want to go in the hole. That's the biggest thing. All right. Um, I I don't have to make a million dollars, it's just really for fun. Um, we're doing it for fun right now. So maybe ask me in a year and my my mind might change. Um, but really it's timing-wise, you know, I'm comfortable with the two shows a week. I have um noticed just getting a little bit overwhelmed with some of the raid trains that I'm getting into, and it's no fault of anybody having a raid train. It's I feel like, and it's not that it's taking away, I because I'm meeting so many fun, awesome, cool people. This community is amazing. I agree. But it's like on our days that we do raid trains, like say the 30-minute like slots on a Sunday, I still feel like I need to have a show after, and I have consistently for like two weeks, um, like an hour after my raid train slot was over, because I feel like, oh, we have so much inventory, I gotta keep selling. So um, I I don't know if I'll get in as many raid trains, and I love them, they're fun, but it's also let me ask you this though, because like I have two raid trains coming up right now.

SPEAKER_00

That's it, just two. But I get so excited. One is Texas, Texas versus Oklahoma, and man, bring me a competition. I am there, and so I haven't even started posting my stuff because of personal issues and all that, but I've been, you know, trying to get it. It's only freaking 30 minutes, and I'm I know I'm like, damn, the amount of mental energy time and trying to get all this together and get Texas stuff. In fact, today I have to go to this lady's house to pick up this thing and Texas, Texas, Texas, and then the other one isn't till Cinco de Mayo. And I don't know if you're on that one. I think we are on it both. We're both on that one. Um Taco Cat Lady Taco Cat lady, yeah. The Cinco de Mayo one, I'm like, I don't have anything, Cinco de May.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my gosh, I can't wait for this one. Michaela's been sourcing for me for that one too.

SPEAKER_00

I'm stressed about it because I can't seem to find anything. So honestly, I you know, I've had good feelings and bad feelings about rage drinks. I think that this Texas, Oklahoma one is gonna be one of my absolute favorites just because it's that's fun to everybody has to have a banger and have to put you have to run your banger for a dollar.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yes. I I'm in one that's like that too. I don't know yet what it's gonna be.

SPEAKER_00

So that's that's the thing, but it does. I think people who are new on here should definitely try try the raid trains, but also it takes time, it takes time to especially most of the raid trains are themed, you know, and it can be hard to do that. Have you ever been to a color raid train?

SPEAKER_01

No, but I'm um in a blue one in a month or so, so I'm excited about that.

SPEAKER_00

Everything blue for real?

SPEAKER_01

Blue, yes. Okay, so it's like the vintage blue vibes or something like that.

SPEAKER_00

I just had a show. I I had a show set up, and then I had my regular night show or whatever, and people were like, Oh, do you have anything blue and white? And I was like, guys, I have so much of an upcoming show. And then they talked me into selling almost everything, so I had to change that show. I did it. I was like, you know what? If you want it, I can make your dreams happen. So I sold like 90% of that's good thing. So it'll be an all-I'm for sure it'll be an awesome show. You'll you guys will do really good. People love that stuff.

SPEAKER_01

It yeah, it's fun. And I yeah, that's but to just to tell everybody that's listening, though, there are sellers out there that will help you um that do like help like myself, helping me get to a thousand and sales or a thousand items. I was in a raid train and it was called Sellers Helping Sellers, and we did every other seller was less than a thousand, over a thousand. So we had big writers, you know, come into little. So it was helpful, and that's how you get more followers, and that's how you meet people, and just be interactive. That is one good, that is one good tip I feel that I have done is been very interactive. Right. Even if I don't buy anything, you can't get that guilty feeling of not buying something every single time. Because in the beginning, I think I did, but go be interactive and show your name. That's what I think you need to do.

SPEAKER_00

You know, the other thing is I know some of these big sellers are like, you can't, you know, don't put your stuff down here. We're not gonna read it, we're not gonna publicize it. I don't, I I that that kind of frustrates me. I get that they have a lot of people there, but if somebody ever wants to drop off their information and their upcoming shows, I always I I welcome that. And I want I want to help support the community and these newbies because I love you newbies. I think it's it's great. Yeah, I remember when whatnot, this is like a year or two, everybody's like, Whatnot's getting too big, there's too much competition, I hate all these new people. And I was like, you know, that's not a really welcoming attitude. No, it's not. You know, I live um in Katy, Texas, and I've always been thrilled with all the new stores that we get, or the expansion, or the boardwalk, or this or that. It's exciting when we got the 7-Eleven because I like Slurpees, and I was like, Yay, we're getting the 7-Eleven. I've it never went, oh gosh, it's gonna be so horrible traffic. Right. I tried to see the positive. That's how I am too. I think having more people with great ideas, with great merchandise, how can it be wrong? You know, like yes, I'm totally with you. I know, and I love it. And so I think you've you like last night I had my show, and throughout the show, I was like, guys, look at my show notes. It says feel free to drop your show. Do that, you let people drop in your show Bradley's garden, too. Absolutely, yes. So, and then if someone that's how I was able to get, you know, get 1200 followers, 1200 people following me. Right, and I think that yeah, that's good. So be consistent, learn about shipping, just keep going, have goals, be excited. Any any other final uh words of advice or anything that I forgot to touch on?

SPEAKER_01

Just have fun and don't get stressed out about little things because it's just gonna be done and over with the next day. Just be a happy person and and and be nice to everybody and you will do well.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's I honestly, I think you just that hit the nail on the head. You know, just be nice and keep going and try your best and yeah, be authentic and kind, and you will go far. And if you yeah, because I'm the same person, yeah. If you get up to the city, that I'm talking you're talking to right now versus yeah, yeah, exactly. And that's all that's one of the reasons I like you because you're real like me, you're authentic, you shoot from the hip. We're we're keeping it honest, we're keeping it real, and so I appreciate that. Well, I am yeah so happy for your already good success after two months. I can't wait. Maybe we should do follow-ups after, you know, like uh an episode a year out, you know, like oh yeah, that would be fun. That would be so fun. I am going to send you a certificate, a why not what not certificate. It's gonna have you listed as the first newbie interview. I'm gonna figure out yet to get it together, but it's on my list, and then our our 3D printer is not up and running right this second. Oh no. But the second it's back in in progress, I I'm even thinking you're gonna get like a little, you know, Greta's garden trophy from whatnot. Thank you, Gary.

SPEAKER_01

So um, you've been a blessing to me too, really. You really have, and I've I'm so thankful I found your podcast just on accident and and it helped. Like I think after show two or something, and I'm like, oh my gosh, who is this lady? I gotta find her.

SPEAKER_00

That's awesome. Really? No, no joke. And I just I heard.

SPEAKER_01

I I listened to your podcast, and I'm like, gosh dang it. And I I think I already did you a five-star, but I I don't know. Maybe I can do you another one.

SPEAKER_00

But tell tell your mom to do the same. Tell Michaela to do the same. Get the word out. Absolutely. All right. Well, thank you so much for doing this with me. Yes, I really appreciate it. I'm gonna try to publish this tonight and we'll see how it goes. You guys can follow Chrissy at um Greta's Garden, is where it is. She's on Monday nights at 5:30, sometimes Sunday mornings. We're not gonna pigeonhole you in there. And then yeah, Kayla's is is it called the Mickey Mart? The the Mickey Mart. Yeah, the Mickey Mart, because she lives in Florida, guys. That's that's yeah, yeah, like Mickey Mount. She's a co she's a coastal cowgirl. Oh, okay, gotcha. But she tell us what she sells too. She's in the same category. I don't think we touched on that. She she is in the same category, but you know what?

SPEAKER_01

On her first show, she sold some clothes, like probably, I bet you 20 items, like right off the whip, and along with vintage items. She just shops and finds like thrifty deals and things she likes. So um that's good. Yeah, so she's she's being successful. I'm happy for her.

SPEAKER_00

Good. All right. Well, with that, we are gonna conclude. And I thank you so much and have a great vacation, man. I'm excited. Oh gosh, I will. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it, Carrie. All right, we'll talk to you later. Bye bye. Yep, see ya, bye.