Pegging with Heather & Chad - Remastered

Because Kat & I are vacation over the next two weeks, I thought I would pull one of the CONSISTENTLY all-time Top 5 episodes out of the vault! I was very new to the podcasting world and I feel like it's a bit rough in places, but I love listening to how much I've grown into my role as a host!  

Heather invited me to watch her perform an erotic massage and pegging on Chad. Of course, for me, this was market research!  For Chad, he got two hot women in a room, and at one point I went over to his ear, as she started pegging him and whispered very naughty things into his ear.....you can imagine what happened. 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Welcome to the Vixen Chronicles Erotic Explorations and Unapologetic Talk. This week's episode is a remastered version of the pegging episode that I did early on with Heather and Chad. It has consistently been in our top five episodes, and I thought that it would be fun to go listen to it again and just update it a little bit. This is also a reminder to submit your questions and story ideas via email to info at the vixenchronicles.com. And again, that's a VXN. And please follow and share on iHeart, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts, and you'll get notified when we publish new episodes. This is your content warning. This shows about sex, every kind and flavor of sex. If you think any topic is not your thing, please don't listen to it. Also, if you're under 18, you better stop listening right now, or I'm calling your mom. My lawyer makes me say that. I'm here tonight with my favorite guest host, Heather. Hey, I'm back. And our special guest, Chad. Hello. Um, who's here to answer all of our burning questions about pegging or prostate massage, as it's sometimes called. And so I wanted to do a little setup on that because not everybody knows what pegging is a prostate massage. So the prostate gland is located in the man's ass, and it is an erogenous zone, big erogenous zone, and it's about two to three inches, about the size of a walnut, but it's about two to three inches in on the ass. But it leads to amazing sensations and from what I understand, very intense orgasms, which Chad will fill us in on tonight. And I think that maybe they're more intense than regular orgasms. Not sure yet. We'll get to that. And I've heard that men can come from just being pigged and no cock stimulation at all. Chad and Heather invited me to watch their session, and I'm just going to describe the beginning part of that, and then we'll just go into our normal discussion like we normally do. So I walk into her room, and Heather has on this super sexy fishnet bodysuit, and it was a large fishnet, so all the key parts were very visible. And Chad is laying on the table. And so she's giving him, she's going to give him a massage with her massage oil, both front and back. And then at some point she gets naked. But we'll leave that for the next part of our discussion. So let's talk a little bit about pegging. This is a bit of a role reversal, right? For men and women. Men are typically the person that's penetrating a woman.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

The more dominant one.

SPEAKER_02 2:59

Yeah, the more dominant one. So let's talk a little bit about one, Heather, how it makes you feel to peg a man. And then I want to know, Chad, from you, how it makes you feel watching her do it.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

It's just a very powerful experience. Um that's the best way to describe it. It just gives me like a powerful feeling, but also a pleasure feeling, not like sexually, but you know, just it's just a good feeling to be able to give the guy that much pleasure.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

Yeah, that much pleasure. You know, and I have to say, when you were doing it, the way you move your hips and legs is probably one of the most erotic things I've ever seen in my life. Truly, it's that slow hip roll motion.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

It's definitely supposed to be a slow sensual movement, not like a ramming sensation that you know people think like it's not like that. Like guys do to women. Exactly. Yeah, it's totally different. Totally different. Take notes, gentlemen. And I've been told from certain friends of mine that when I'm doing that or any other thing that I'm doing to please the guy, that I get like a shit-eating grin on my face. Oh, so interesting when I'm doing it.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

Okay. I I was too busy watching everything else going on, but truly erotic to watch. Yeah. And you know, the other thing that I thought was interesting about watching it was that because it was so slow and sensual, is that a lot of men could take a lot of notes from that, truly. It's not just, you know, sleeping.

SPEAKER_00 4:37

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of guys that like will not even consider, you know, the anal stimulation.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Well, no, I was talking about when they fuck women in the ass. Oh, yeah. No, they should just have some empathy here.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

But I mean, just like they like when you try to like, you know, talk to somebody about it, they're they're like totally against it right away because they they just have the wrong vision in their head. They picture like the girl like throwing them on the bed and getting them on all fours and getting behind them and just ramming. That's what they would do. And that's yeah, and that's totally not how this experience is. It's very erotic, very sensual, slow, you know, and the guy is on their back, so they can see the hot girl that's actually doing it to them. You know what I mean? Well, I'll let him tell you.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

Yeah. So sad. I want to know how what you experience as you watch her do it. So I mean, she's got you relaxed already. She does. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

And you know, I I picked this up a few years ago just as much as I travel for work, and I had bought myself a toy just because I spend so many nights in a hotel by myself. Yeah. And of course, by watching porn, and I thought, I'm gonna try this.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

And then had you done any research on it as far as like what it does to stimulate the prostate land for a guy?

SPEAKER_01 6:07

With with my previous profession, of course, I knew what you know, I know the human body and all that stuff, so then I, you know, I was I was watching some pegging learn and I thought, man, that really looks cool, you know, because I was basically in a hotel room and by myself.

SPEAKER_02 6:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

And and when I approached her, I'm like, you know, are you willing to do this? And and she's like, Yeah. So I went out and and bought the appropriate things. And I mean, God, have you seen her? I know beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

But I also want to go on record saying it makes me a little bit sad that you spend so many nights alone in a hotel because you're super attractive. Well, thanks. So that's don't it's by choice.

SPEAKER_00 7:07

It was by choice. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

But okay. So in in as far as, you know, to be able to watch her do that to me and to be able to look at her, yeah. Beautiful as she is. And she has the most beautiful tips. She's got a great body, period. She does.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

So I'm like and also knowing that I actually enjoy it. Because I don't think that it would be as hot for the guy if it was somebody doing it that didn't really want to do it.

SPEAKER_02 7:33

You know, I enjoy it. And like you said earlier, there's a trust factor, number one, infinitely. And you two are friends. I mean, you're close friends. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

So okay. And the uh as far as the the level of the orgasm, it is it's hard to explain. It's just on a totally different level. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:54

How does it compare when I do it versus when you were just using those toys that you bought when you were in a hotel by yourself? It is, I would say, times 10. Oh, wow. Only because he has you to look at. I know, but like obviously because we are visual.

SPEAKER_02 8:08

You're very visual. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

But obviously, when you started experimenting with those toys in the hotel, like you had to have enjoyed it some, or you wouldn't have wanted to take it to the next level of asking me to actually use the strap on.

SPEAKER_01 8:21

Absolutely, I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

And I was thinking, like, it's kind of like when a woman uses a dildo, it's like, yeah, it sounds its function, right? But it's not a human being. Yeah, it's not the same. Exactly. Totally.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

That that is a perfect way to describe it. Yeah, it really is. That is.

SPEAKER_02 8:35

That makes sense. So how does okay, I have so many questions, and I mean how does that orgasm compare to your regular orgasms, like when you're having sex with a woman or you're receiving, you know, a blowjob?

SPEAKER_01 8:50

It's it it's there you really can't compare it. They're just night and day. Yeah. Okay. And hey, it orgasms are like pizza. There's no such thing as a bad one.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

Fair enough.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

But just some are a lot better than others. Yeah, that's true. And and it is it's on a whole different level. Yeah. It it really is.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

And if you had your choice, would you pick the pegging orgasm every time, or you'd like the variety?

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Oh no, I I mean, I I don't want that to happen all the time. Right. But I mean, as far as the quality of the orgasm, the pegging is it's the best. Super intense.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

The funny thing is, like when I see him, he'll say, like, well, I didn't know what you wanted to do tonight or whatever. And but every time I'm like, you know what I want to do because I love doing it. Because I really enjoy how intense of an orgasm I know that's gonna make him have. You know what I mean? Like, so, but if he got tired of it or something, I would totally switch it up and do other things. But like, why would I want to give him a basic orgasm every time when I know I can give him this extreme one every time? Okay, so I have a question.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

When you uh this when you had the strap on on, when you're stroking him, is it rubbing against your clit? That's always been my number one question. Is it rubbing like can you feel the pressure against your clit at all while you're doing it?

SPEAKER_00 10:13

No, not really, but they do have some that have like a little pocket in them where you can add like a little bullet so that it would be stimulating my clit while I would totally be doing it.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

I need to try to find one of those.

SPEAKER_00 10:25

We can do that. But yeah, his that the one that we have right now doesn't have that. But I mean, I can I have bottoms that have it too. So I could just put a thong on that has a little pocket and then put the strap on on. So we can totally do that next time or whatever. But very so, but I don't it's never about like pleasing me in that way.

SPEAKER_02 10:45

It's always about just I get that, but for our listeners, they I mean as a woman, I was like, okay, what I would I would love doing it. I'm sure I would love doing it. But I also want to feel some I I I will get the pleasure from pleasing, I guess. Yeah, right. But I would want to feel I would want to feel something on my clit or either in my pussy, or like the guy has already taken care of you like before you do that or after or something, you know what I mean? Yeah. You have to know what's coming next, kind of thing. Okay. So how often do you do this with Heather?

SPEAKER_01 11:22

I I would say Once or twice a month. I I'd say a minimum of twice, if not three times a month.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Oh, okay. Cool.

SPEAKER_01 11:32

It just depends on work and I travel a lot.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

And do you have uh a relationship with another person, woman, whatever? Anybody? No, no, okay. Luckily, peacefully single, like me.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

Not like you, yeah. So that's why we're it's perfect.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

Yeah, it is perfect. And what let's talk about this. What about the the men who say, absolutely no way I'm not gay? I cannot tell you the number of times I've heard that this week.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

And uh, and I'm like, it has nothing at all to do with your masculinity. It has nothing to do with it, but some guys just can't get that out of their head, yeah. And I think a lot of it is because of this vision in their head that they think the woman's just gonna throw them on the bed and put them on all fours and ram them like doggy style.

SPEAKER_02 12:14

And I have to say, I mean, so what do you say to that? It's like don't knock it until you try it, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

Well the thing about it is, is this is gonna sound a little bit selfish. Okay, we can we're allowed to be selfish here. You you know what? I'm getting a level of pleasure that I've never experienced before. I love that. I don't care what other men think. Yeah. I I don't.

SPEAKER_00 12:40

But I feel like if they would just like open their minds up a little bit, ever there way more men could be having this same intense feeling that you're getting. Right. So they're selling themselves short, actually, you know?

SPEAKER_02 12:53

And they can they call it the male G spot. Yeah, exactly. Oh, spot on. Okay, yes.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

Yes, and it's like there are some guys that are just like, don't get near my butt no matter what. Not with a tongue, not with a finger, not with anything, right? But then there are some that are like fine with a tongue or they're trying with fine with a finger. But honestly, like the pegging thing is not that much different than a finger. It's not. And then actually, I was gonna say that.

SPEAKER_01 13:21

I was like, especially the size of mine, it's really not that big.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

Yeah, it's actually the size of you. Like it looks bigger than what it is because there has to be some room at all. Because there's gonna be a distance, obviously, since I don't have a penis attached to myself in real life. You know, you gotta have some like room to like maneuver.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

You don't both seen you naked, we know you do not have a penis.

SPEAKER_00 13:42

Right. So, like, if it's I don't know, how many inches long do you think it is? I think it's about six or seven.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

So it's a big it's a beginner kit that I bought, and it came with three of them. Yeah. That is the biggest one of the three. Oh, it is? Yeah, it's a beginner kit.

SPEAKER_00 13:57

But I'm not putting that whole thing in no that. Yeah, just like it's just the four and a half, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

It's no longer than five inches.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:07

Really?

SPEAKER_02 14:08

I mean, I it was small. I was shocked by how small it was.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

It's only half inch in diameter. Right, exactly. Yeah, that and that's the other thing. Matter of fact, matter of fact, I got the box out of my dresser the other day to throw it away because I don't need the box anymore. Yeah. And I was looking, because I've had it, I don't know, maybe four or five months. I thought then I I had the other two in the box, you know, the smaller ones, and I'm like, I never really looked at the measurements. Yeah. When I went to buy it, I was like, beginner's pegging kit.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Yeah, it sounds like sounds sounds good for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because people think that you're using like this huge one. Well, because guys always want to use big dildos on women. I mean, and like the one that I have, I have one that's a pegging size, and then I have one that's a dildo for if I want to peg, not peg, but you know, use it on a woman vaginally, which is gonna be it's way thicker, longer. It's just totally different. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 15:16

So one of the things that in my mind I had imagined that it was going to be much bigger because of what women use as a dildo or what you know you have toys when you're having sex. They're just bigger. And they're usually bigger than an average man for sure. Yeah. So I was shocked when you showed it to me the first time before Chad was ever there. You know, that was like a couple weeks before, and I was shocked at how small it was. So it really is the biggest beginner one, is about the size of what, like your middle finger. I would say index finger. Your index index finger.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Maybe a little bigger round, but about the length of your index finger.

SPEAKER_02 15:55

Yeah. I mean, it's not that much bigger round on that side. I swear to God, it didn't look any bigger than they're not. It's really not. Yeah. And so I was just shocked by that because I thought for sure it was going to be different. And I think that is why men can't get that out of their minds.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

Because they're thinking it's just some monster cock that the girl's gonna ram him with. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

And guys that watch porn. Right. That's what they're all fucking gigantic. Yeah, that's I mean, they are that's why when they're having always good, yeah, even when they're having anal sex, you're like, that's a lot of cock to take in your ass. Or pussy. Doesn't matter. Yeah. Very interesting. Okay. So when she was so let's describe, you know, exactly what you do, Heather. So you massage him from head to toe, both sides, with your massage oil. Then you flip him over, and then you get up on the table. You take it from there.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Well, I have to get situated. So sometimes I'll put a pillow down and put a towel on it, and then put that like under the hips just to kind of like raise them up a little bit. Yeah. And then I'm like up on my knees, and I try to scoot as close to him as I can to get in there. You know, that's why I said it has to be a little bit longer than what you actually want. Right. Because you're losing two or three inches anyway, just by women aren't really built the way, you know what I mean, to fit in there. So and then I just kind of like scoot my legs up on the sides of him, and then he can put his legs up or like kind of around my legs. Yeah. If he wants to like rest them on top of my legs, and then I make sure I have my oil and stuff so that I can, you know, stroke the balls and cock while I'm doing it. And usually I have to have him help guide me in at first. Right, with plenty of lube. Yes. Oh, yes, plenty of lube. You cannot do it without lube. You lube up the anus and you also lube up the toy. Yeah, but make sure, yep, both are all slippery. And then yeah, you just like he helps like guide it in, and then once I'm in, it usually is fine. And then it's just a slow, steady hip movement. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_02 18:01

Well, and the great thing about you know, you being a stripper was you have those moves down. Oh, yeah. My hips are like I'm more than a little jealous about your hip flexibility.

SPEAKER_00 18:13

My hips can do that all day, and then yeah, just like you know, light stroking of the balls and caul at the same time. And then I can tell, like, with my hand, like when it's building and when I know when to like speed it up or slow it down and when they're gonna get ready to to finish. And I swear, like, every time I do it for him, I feel like it's like more intense every single time. Every time I'm like, wow, that was really intense. I could feel your leg shaking, or I could feel you like you know, tensing up or whatever. And yeah, I just every time I I I think I feel like it's more intense.

SPEAKER_01 18:50

I love that. First time she did it, I literally my whole lower body was just shaking. I I I couldn't feel your legs. I don't think I even thought about getting up for a couple minutes.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:05

That's how many women do that. Like that reminds me of of of my orgasms if I have like a really good one. Yeah, or whatever, right? An intense one. But it's like I just need to lay there and let my legs work for I need I need blood flow back back to my body.

SPEAKER_01 19:21

Because I think I stood up once and I got I sit right back down because I got dizzy. Dizzy, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:25

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. So while you're stroking his cock and pegging him, we'll get here, but how did how long does that normally last? Do you edge him at all normally or not?

SPEAKER_00 19:40

Well, when you get like to know someone a little better, and you've done this a few times, like I feel like so when the when he's on his stomach, that part of the massage is mostly just like relaxing. But then once I turn him on his back, it starts to become like the teasing and the foreplay and all of that because I'm you know using my nails, I'm putting my boobs in his face, teasing a little bit here and there. So there's not a lot, like I don't really need to like edge a lot before we get there. I mean, I do like stroke the cock a little bit and get it woken up and ready to go before I do that. Yeah. How long it lasts? You can't really okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

The only reason I brought that up is because we all had a big laugh that you were doing it, and then I went up and whispered in his here, ear, and I started talking dirty to him. And I don't I don't know exactly how long it was, but it felt like as soon as I started talking dirty to you.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

It was over.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

It was over. Yeah, it was over. That definitely escalated the situation. Yeah, that definitely escalated the situation to where it was much shorter, but it's not ever like super long anyway. You know what I mean? Probably three, three, three to five minutes or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

And it could go up to 10 or you know, okay, like that was really fast.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

But it's not like 60 minutes of getting pounded in your button. No, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 21:06

And what was funny is I even said, if you're gonna do that, I'm not gonna last long. And lo and behold, I did not.

SPEAKER_02 21:11

You did warn us ahead of time. You did. Yeah. And I'm a filthy talker, and I wasn't even talking really dirty to you either. I was just like giving you the whole mental thing. But yeah, so that was it was uh basically as soon as I started whispering in his ear and talking dirty, you came. Yeah, probably within 30 seconds for sure. Probably. Okay. And was it the most intense one so far or not?

SPEAKER_01 21:38

I would say the second time we did it is when my legs just I think it was the second time we did it. Okay. I mean, trust me, it was great.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

We'll say it was a fascist one.

unknown 21:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:52

Fair enough. Because I think the first time it was a little bit, it was probably hard to relax completely because it was the first time and everything.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

And we were on the bed.

SPEAKER_00 22:01

Yeah, oh yeah. And we tried the bed and it was too soft. We sunk down and then we I couldn't get the right angle. And yeah, it was so then we the the second time we did on the table, which is firmer, so it gave me more like gave her leverage. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

It makes you wonder how men do it. Like, how do they do it? I mean, because if your bed's too soft, I mean, of course they'll flip you around anywhere they want. But yeah, okay, that was the other thing I was gonna ask you too about the position. Because in my mind, again, I'd never witnessed pegging before and I'd never done it. So I thought he would be on all fours and you would be behind him. Which is what most people think.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:42

And I was shocked.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

I mean, you can do it that way too. And then I could still reach around and stroke the penny. He can't see me, and I and I don't get to see his face. And like I want that too. Like, I want to be able to see the pleasure that I'm giving him on his face when his legs start shaking. You know what I mean? Yeah, and I want to see the cum shot too. Right.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

I'm not saying I never want to get on all fours, but if I have the ch choice to get on all fours, or the choice to lay on my back and look at her. Right, exactly. What the hell do you think I'm gonna do? I want to look at her.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

You know what I mean? Yeah, to where that can be open and relaxed in there. I feel like you're gonna be tense and more tightened up in your anus if you're all in all four on all fours, you know?

SPEAKER_02 23:32

I agree. And actually, when I was just doing a little bit of research on it, I didn't realize that we have two sphincters. Did you know this?

SPEAKER_00 23:38

No, I didn't know we had two sphincters either.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

So the first one is the easiest to get through, and it's the second one that's harder, but it's the one that gets you pleasure. So once you break through the second sphincter, that is when you really men or women get that's where you get the pleasure. It's not about the that I did not know. I didn't know any of that until I read this. Did and the only other thing I was thinking about the position was that you could actually bring your knees up higher or put your legs on her shoulders or something, and she would have even more access to your ass. That's coming. Oh, okay. I mean, but again, she moves so slowly, and the strokes are so erotic for lack of from my perspective, just watching you do that. But I was just thinking it would be so much more probably visually stimulating for you too if his legs were up higher. And then you can you you wouldn't even need him to guide you in. You would just do it slowly like you do.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

I mean, you still would though, because the the when you're when you have the strap on on the dildo, it's kind of flimsy. So yeah, it's kind of flimsy. So I still would need him to help guide it a little bit until I get in. Once I'm in, then it's usually okay. And then I don't know, you I don't know if you could tell, but like sometimes he'll grab a hold of the top of it and help me, like he'll pull it. Oh, it kind of helps me get it in there a little bit harder than what yeah, because it's not it's not a lot of pressure with that on. It's different, it's different than like when a man is doing it, you know what I mean? Yeah, because theirs is attached. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:17

And they're built for it, and we're not. Yes. That's amazing. Okay, so have you ever had anybody else do it? No, no, okay. I popped his cherry.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

You did, and apparently you kept it. I love it. I love popping people's cherry. So uh Did I pop your cherry on the milking table part too? The milking thing? I thought so. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:40

That's so cool. It really is. So what if you had, okay, now that I'm thinking through all the positions, what if you if someone was doing the milking table? I just added the pegging.

SPEAKER_01 25:53

So at the same time, we need to do we we're gonna touch on that.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

Okay, we need to do that one because I could totally be on the top of the table doing the pegging while the other girl was underneath doing that.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

But it and again, we've talked about this before. Even if they're under the table, you can still see them because of the way your head lays and stuff. And you actually get a great view of you know, their entire body through their through their legs, usually.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

That's I don't know. It's just like I was just thinking about that. How can you get more pleasure? And and usually for men, it's multiple women, right? Two, three, whatever the case may be.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

I mean, that would totally be a way to switch it up and oh yeah. If we can imagine what that would be, see if we can make it even more intense.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Because when you were pegging him and stroking his cock at the same time, I mean, I was I was just thinking, there's I don't know how any man could last. I just don't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

I mean, I was shaking.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:52

You were up by my head. I was shaking.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

You were shaking. You were definitely shaking. So when you're because you guys have this trust built up from doing it, is there anything about it that you like her being in the masculine role and your being submissive? Does that go through your head at all? You know, it it really doesn't. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

I I don't look at it as masculine. I look at it like dominating and being in control, but not masculine.

SPEAKER_01 27:24

I mean, of course, you you know, as much time as I spend on the road, I've I've watched dominatrix porn before. I don't think that's where we're at with this.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

That's not your candy.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

I'm not no, I'm not saying I'm close to it.

SPEAKER_03 27:41

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

But I just don't think that's where we're at with this right now. Okay. And but if it empowers her and she's being pleased, of course, we know I'm being pleased. Right. That makes me happy. But it's you know, if if we get more comfortable, then maybe we get into that that role play of the dominatrix and yeah, like I could cuff you where I'm feeling like even in more control, right?

SPEAKER_00 28:11

You know, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

So you're okay as your relationship evolves of being in a submissive role for role play.

SPEAKER_00 28:19

Yeah, for role play. And we have to try different things to be able to elevate to know the intensity every time. Yep, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

And you know what? You try it, you don't like it, then you do that again. Exactly. Yeah, you flip over and you set up that perfect.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Heather, for you, we talk about the power it gives you and watching him being pleased and the pleasure piece. Is there anything else there besides that, other than obviously you guys are close and you want to please him? Is there anything else there from that perspective for you? I'm not sure what you mean. Well, because we know now, because I've asked that question, there's no physical pleasure for you doing it yet.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

Yeah, but yet. But honestly, like sometimes, most of the time, the satisfaction that I get from the power is actually a stronger, intense feeling than an orgasm would be for me. And I don't know how to explain that. That's amazing. Because I would have never understood that or believed that until I actually started experiencing in my day job.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

I the person in power. And so I deal with that all day long. You know, I'm the person in power. But at night or when in my relationships, I love to give up that control because it's it's overwhelming to say the least.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

But so you I think I still like to be more dominant in my, you know, the rest of my life too. Interesting. I think I'm just a dominant person. I always I always think that I'm not, but all my friends tell me I am. I like to be in control for sure. Because like, even if we were having sex, yeah, like I would want to be on top, and I would be one, I would want to be controlling when and how I orgasm. Okay. Even using his, even using his tool to do it, you know?

SPEAKER_02 30:15

That's interesting. And a lot of women love, we're gonna digress here for a little bit, but a lot of women love being on top. I don't. Really?

SPEAKER_00 30:23

Yeah. I think it's because I'm so in tune with my body and the way with the hip movement and all that, like we talked about, like from the dancing and just everything. Like, I know exactly how I need to move my body to get it. Okay. And a guy isn't gonna know my body that well unless it's somebody I've been with for years and they know, you know what I mean? Right.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

Did do you ever get so turned on that from the power or whatever that you go home and masturbate to it? Oh, yeah, all the time. Do you really? Yeah, all the time. I wasn't expecting her to answer that way.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

All the time. Yeah. Okay, listen, I fucking love that. Yeah. And that, and that makes my orgasms more intense. Well, of course, yeah. Because I'm thinking about that power and the and the pleasure of the orgasm that I gave them.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

Chad, are you doing okay over there?

SPEAKER_01 31:16

Yeah, but guess what I'm doing when I get home?

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Listen.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Sorry. No, it's okay. It's more than okay. Guess what I'm doing when I get old. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:30

Sounds like we all are. And so I and I know that you've had other people that you've done this with. Have any of them ever come without touching their cock just by pegging? Because that fascinated me.

SPEAKER_00 31:47

No, I haven't done that yet. I had a guy that came from me just fondling and playing with his balls. Wow. And he did not want me to touch his dick at all. And he was able to come that way. And I couldn't believe that. That was a one and only time I've ever had that. And that was pretty cool. But I don't know if it was.

SPEAKER_02 32:08

It was not a premature ejaculation. It was really the stimulation from the balls.

SPEAKER_00 32:13

Yeah, he did not want his. I don't know if his dick was just sensitive. Some guys, their the head of their dick is very sensitive.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

So I don't know if it was that, but he did not want me to touch his dick at all. He just wanted me to caress his balls, and he was able to come like that.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00 32:31

So I believe it that you can come from just pegging and not touching.

SPEAKER_02 32:35

And one thing, the other, the other thing I read too was that like if a guy has erectile dysfunction, then this actually helps them achieve orgasm without any penis stimulation, you know?

SPEAKER_00 32:49

So I mean, I've I've seen where it definitely makes their dicks get harder if they're having an issue with that. Where if you weren't doing the anal stimulation, it would be like flimsier, it wouldn't get as hard all the way hard. Right. And then like you use a toy, a vibrator, or you know, me pegging or whatever, it makes their dick get harder for sure. And I I feel like it even makes more cum. Like there's more cum that comes.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

Oh, yeah. Well, that's because there's no doubt. I I also want to go on record that Chad has a great cock too. So I don't think I don't think I made that clear at the beginning. So not only is he attractive, but he has a great cock. But your dick was so hard. I mean I want to say like a 20-year-old. It was so hard. And she's using both hands to massage it. I don't know if you caught that or not. I'm sure you did. I always do. No, do you do that with previous people that you've done this with? Do you both hands? Okay. Interesting. Okay. I love to use both hands. Yeah. Well, I think it's important to use both hands, just generally. So, what do you want to do next with it?

SPEAKER_01 34:03

Well, I I I like the idea. I mean, so we've been seeing each other for what, four months? Maybe five months?

SPEAKER_02 34:17

Six months. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

Six months.

SPEAKER_02 34:19

Time flies when you're having fun.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:21

By the way, it seems much longer than that.

SPEAKER_00 34:23

It does. But it does very well, we instantly connect. Yeah. Like, you know, there's just some people in life you meet and you just instantly connect.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

I wanted her to feel safe. Yeah. And I have tons of respect for her. And you know, we'll keep growing. I I like the idea of possibly a forehand with being pegged and being milked. Oh yeah. And that idea I like. I might go toy shopping again and maybe get something a little bigger. Okay. I mean, not gigantic, but a a little bigger.

SPEAKER_00 35:04

I think that's that's important that you have to go like gradually. Right. Yeah. You know, with this. And I love that like we're both open-minded that we'll try different things, you know, like the restraints or or the two girls or whatever. And like how we're both like so cool about like, well, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Like, we just don't do it again. Yeah. You know what I mean? Exactly. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 35:25

And I have another toy that that before she did she pegged me, she did use my other toy on me.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

And what is it? It's it's like an anal bead wand. It's an anal bead wand. So they have anal beads that are on strings that are kind of flimsy, and you have to use your fingers to shove them in there, and it's just not used at that.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

Is my anal bead wand?

SPEAKER_00 35:48

I wondered how you did that because I'm like, you would have to have no the wand is like firmer, but then it still has the beads. Yes. Yeah, and they're they progressively they do, they're progressively bigger.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

Okay. And so that was our first introduction to anal play between her and I.

SPEAKER_02 36:05

How do those feel compared to the pegging?

SPEAKER_01 36:09

It's the sensation is the same. Oh, okay. But it's the visual to be able to look at her.

SPEAKER_02 36:16

Yeah, while she's pegging you for sure. Oh, God. Yeah. Oh. Because she, you're not moving if you're just using the anal beads.

SPEAKER_00 36:23

I mean, I'm still in the same position. Right, but she's just using around. Nothing in my hips, legs, right back and forth. And I don't know, can you feel my hips doing that? Absolutely. Up against you. Okay, okay. You can certainly see it.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

We're not moving.

SPEAKER_00 36:35

Well, yeah, but he can see what I'm doing with the wand, too. But like to be able to feel my hips too while he's looking at me.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

Let's yeah. You know what? It's it's body-to-body contact. True. Yeah. And her body's so friggin' phenomenal. It is.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

It is like beautiful, beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

I got this gorgeous woman doing this to me with this unbelievable body.

SPEAKER_02 36:57

I'm like, oh wow. Yeah, and and you trust her. And I mean, there's this all every dynamic is there to make it mind-blowing. Right. Yeah. And it is. Okay. My next question is Have you ever thought about using a vibrating butt plug or anything like that? Just uh have you ever experienced that?

SPEAKER_01 37:19

Well, my my anal bead wand does vibrate.

SPEAKER_00 37:24

Oh, it does? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:25

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

Okay. Yeah. But butt plugs are different because they come in all different sizes and shapes.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

Some of them you look at, you're like, what? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

So we should try a butt plug sometime.

SPEAKER_02 37:38

A vibrating butt plug and just see what and I was but here's the thing the visual of you doing it is part of the experience.

SPEAKER_00 37:45

It probably won't be as intense.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:47

I think we're not that I'm not willing to try it. We're gonna have a hard time trumping where we've already started. Yeah, you you peaked on day two. But I but I think that the forehand thing could be close. I do. Yeah. Because it's gonna be different, it's gonna be new. Yeah, I think that one's gonna be a good one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:07

Is there oh, anything else that we want to just educate people about that, you know, that we can talk about?

SPEAKER_01 38:14

I would encourage, I mean, anybody that wants to explore it, you know, I'm not gonna judge. If a dude doesn't want to do it, he doesn't want to do it. Exactly. But if you want to explore it, you gotta start out small.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

Yeah. You just do. You you well, and don't you think you would start out with like remming or something, you know, tongue, finger, just to get the the sensation.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

There's other guys that I've talked into this experience that not I wouldn't say they were totally against it, not like some of the guys are that are just like, no, that's gay, I'm not doing that. We won't even go near it. You know, I've had other guys that I talked to about it and they're like not really ready to go into the full on pegging. Yeah, but they were fine with me using like a small vibrator or something. And so the little bullet is like perfect for that. It's small. Can you keep it on the outside? Well, you can start on the outside with like teasing on the outside and then going in a little bit, but I mean that doesn't go in very fast.

SPEAKER_02 39:07

Yeah, it doesn't stimulate the prostate because it's two to three inches in. And the bullets are pretty small, aren't they?

SPEAKER_00 39:14

They might be a little three inches since I've had one. I don't know. Yeah, I love them. I mean, there's multiple uses with those little bullets. Yeah, and they're affordable. I mean, they're cheap. Yeah, you throw them away. Exactly. Throw it away and get a new one because when the batteries go dead, the batteries cost more to replace than just buying new batteries. They're like the little blocked batteries.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

And you spent you spent maybe dollars, six dollars all the bullets.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

You can totally just get a new bullet. Yeah, but that one is a good start, I feel like, because it's about the girth of a finger, too, and it's not long. I mean, it's perfect. That that's always gonna be my go-to. Start out with, you know, any kind of anal stimulation play, a bullet is definitely the first toy to get. And then you can progress into butt plugs or like the anal wand that he has, anal beads, yes.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

I had a friend who told me that it was female, and her and her husband would use anal beads during sex, and when she was getting ready to orgasm, he would pull them out, not not hard, but hard enough that it created a sensation. And she said she had mind-blowing orgasms from that. I've heard of that.

SPEAKER_01 40:28

I've heard of it.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:30

Well, we might have to try that too. Oh, you guys have just given me all kinds of fun new ideas. Love it. But that's what makes it fun and keeps it going. Like if we did the same thing every time, he was gonna eventually get bored with it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, it's just like regular sex. Exactly. And guys love varieties, and they do.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

I think we all love variety. Women do too. Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

Well, I've got to be. A lot more often, guys want a variety of another woman. Well, that's because that's instinct. Yeah, I mean, it truly is we're not anything wrong.

SPEAKER_02 41:15

I'm just saying we're not meant to be monogamous about exactly, but women can be culturally, but I I'm of the belief that men they have to fight it.

SPEAKER_00 41:25

I mean, oh, they do because they're made they're they were put here to procreate, exactly, you know. So, yeah, that's totally the nature of the beast.

SPEAKER_02 41:33

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

Anything else we want to cover on pegging? I think we got it all.

SPEAKER_02 41:37

We got it all. And the other thing I wanted to bring back around was this really has nothing to at all to do with your sexuality and what you're attracted to. It has to do with pleasure.

SPEAKER_03 41:47

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 41:48

And if it's pleasure for a man or for a woman, either either way, you're both getting pleasure from it. There's nothing wrong with it. As and I mean, who are we to judge, anyways? Um with that said, I'd like to thank my awesome guest host, Heather, because she's always here for me. She brings her fun and her energy. Thank you. I love you too. And then a special thanks to Chad for enlightening us about all the feelings around pegging.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

And thank you for having me. It was a it was a wonderful time with you lovely ladies.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

I can't thank you enough, seriously. And again, feel free to listen to us on Spotify or Apple. It's the Vixen Chronicles. And thank you all for listening.