Lola's Backstory From Catholic School Good Girl to Pornstar

Lola spills the tea on her journey from sheltered Catholic to full-blown nympho VXN! Starting with girl-on-girl fun at 14, popping her cherry at 16 with a random older dude, and graduating to threesomes at 17 and getting low-key pimped out by a shady boyfriend at 19. 

Fast-forward through baby daddies, road-trip disasters, and "horngry" pregnancy horniness, to meeting Devon and diving headfirst into the lifestyle—complete with glory holes, gangbangs, pregnant adventures, and a very recent DP debut ("He went for the ass... and I said yes!"). 

Bonus laughs: Catholic school anal loopholes, sketchy hookup apps, social media listening to your dirty thoughts, and why grandparents make the best babysitters. Zero childhood trauma, 100% "I just really fucking love sex." 

Raw, hilarious, and zero fucks given—classic VXN Chronicles! 🔥

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to the Vixen Chronicles, Erotic Explorations and Unapologetic Tike. Tonight we're going to hear Lola's background story. You may remember that she and her husband Devon are into the lifestyle, very into it, and she's into everything from glory holes to gangbangs, even pregnant gangbangs, and recently went to LA to perform in her own video with wifey.com, and that is a Vixen media production that is not associated with us here at the Vixen Chronicles. And I think it's going to be just an amazing conversation to understand how she got to this point in her life and you know what shaped her. This is your content warning. This show is about sex, every kind and flavor of sex. And if you think any topic is not your thing, please don't listen to it. If you're under 18, you better stop listening right now. I'm calling your mom. My lawyer makes me say that. As a reminder, please submit your feedback and story ideas or questions to info at thevixonchronicles.com, and that's a VXN. And then also listen to us on iHeart, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts, and you'll get notified when we publish new episodes. But make sure you follow us. That's important to us. How Vixen Hood. Hello. And our show mascot, Jolene, is running around and she'll show up at the most inconvenient times.

SPEAKER_04 1:48

Okay. So what'd you guys do last night? We went to a club that we've not, well, a house party, I would say it's a house party that we've not visited before. So we went, it was like a two, three story house added on, a bunch of stuff added on to it. Around here. Yeah. In Columbus suburbs. New Carlisle.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. About an hour away from here. Yeah, that's not near here. I didn't realize it was near here when we got here. Unlike you guys, you're so used to you, you think driving in hours like driving 30 minutes for the rest of us. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I would never do that in one night. An hour away. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:32

Did you have fun? We did. We had a lot of fun. Um more or less after the party, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

What was the what was the highlight of the night?

SPEAKER_04 2:43

Honestly, seeing some old friends that we hadn't seen in years. Beautiful. And those this was their first time going to the there also on their anniversary, but we haven't seen them in five years. Wow. So you were able to reconnect and just hang out, and that's very cool. And ended up Candy and Mino knew them too.

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Oh, did they make it there? Oh, good. Well, that was her surprise for the night. So and it was a weed night, she said. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 3:10

Okay. It didn't seem like very many people smuggling weed. I was rolling up and nobody else was.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Well, maybe it was more bring your own weed, but maybe they were doing vapes or gummies. Yeah. You know, with weed anymore, it's hard to tell, right? Right. That's true. So I'm glad you had a good time. Yeah, it was a good time. Good. We'll definitely be back. Good. Well, we're gonna talk a little bit about your backstory. And we're gonna give everybody a heads up that Lola has blocked out some of it and just doesn't remember. So we're gonna be all over the place, and that's okay. We're all good with that. So tell me about your early life with you know, family, mom and dad. Were they was it normal? Was it, you know?

SPEAKER_04 3:53

I wouldn't say it was normal, but it was better than most people's situations. My parents were still together. My dad, although he was a drinker at the time, he couldn't keep jobs, but him and mom still worked it out together. They had separated for a year, didn't even know that they were separated, and they got back together. Of course, they were fine. And now it's it's they still have a great relationship. But that's amazing. They're still together. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

Okay, they are. Is he is he sober now?

SPEAKER_00 4:26

Yeah. Good for him.

SPEAKER_04 4:27

He's been sober for a couple years now.

SPEAKER_01 4:29

And did they hold, I mean, once he got through his, you know, alcoholism or whatever, did he hold a normal job and did your mom too?

SPEAKER_04 4:37

Cool. My dad actually now he does voiceovers on the radio. What? He he used to be a DJ long time ago. DJ Bob West. You can probably look him up, Kat. But he was in Beckley. No, this was in Lama, Ohio. Yeah. Llama.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

Okay. Well, that that seems normal. How many brothers and sisters did you have?

SPEAKER_04 4:58

I have one brother and one sister. I have an older sister and a younger brother. And are they are you close with them? Now, yes. I we had our ups and downs with my past. Yeah. And but now we're really close.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

I'm glad to hear that. Really glad to hear it. Did talk to me about your teenage years. How old were you when you lost your progenity? And it may be before teenage. I'm just using that as an example.

SPEAKER_04 5:25

I was 16. Okay. Well, that's a very normal insert vagina. Yeah. Kind of, you know. But I started messing around with girls when I was 14. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

Good.

SPEAKER_04 5:40

So Okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

So that and that's fine. So you got with your first guy at 16 and had sex. Yeah. And how was that? It was not great.

SPEAKER_04 5:49

I mean, I didn't really know what to expect, but it wasn't that. Yeah. Well, I get that. And yeah. It was like maybe five minutes.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

Well, here's the thing. Yeah. 16. Yeah, there's still, you know, there's a lot of hormones going on there. I'm actually shocked it was five minutes, but you never know. Did so when you how old were you when you had your first baby? I was 21. Yeah, 21. Yeah, okay. I'm good with all this so far. It's very normal. I mean, what was unusual about your background? Just your dad's drinking. Was that it?

SPEAKER_04 6:30

Um, up until eighth grade, yeah. Okay. Because I was Catholic school all the way up till seventh or eighth grade. I was in gymnastics for quite a few years. That basically was what kept me busy. Mm-hmm. Was that constantly. And when I stopped that is when things started to I started to find find the world. So you're a classic middle child, right? Yeah, for sure. For sure.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

Me too. Me too. We're all classic, we're all classic middle children. Well, that's interesting. So your parents stayed together. You had your first baby at 22, you said? 21. 21. And then how long how many kids do you have total? Well, we have three out of three out of my body. Three out of your body. That's what I needed in it. And what are their ages?

SPEAKER_04 7:23

11, 7, and 3.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

And like when you guys travel, who watches your kids?

SPEAKER_04 7:30

So it's either between my mom or his mom. So his mom usually comes to our house, or my my kids like to go stay the night with Nene all the time. So they get to go to Nene's house, and that's that's a whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Well, I in my personal opinion, I don't think there's anything better than grandparents as your babysitters. So what let's talk about where you think your life took a turn for the wildly sexual side of you.

SPEAKER_04 8:03

I would say it it really started in eighth grade when I had switched from a Catholic school to a public school. And I got to see some more things that I was not seeing in a private school.

SPEAKER_01 8:17

And so it yeah, it basically started at in eighth grade. And what happened? What was the thing that triggered that? I mean, other than being in a public school after being in a small private school.

SPEAKER_04 8:29

Well, I was I had a friend at the time, well, a girlfriend at the time, and we were really close, and she she did a little more things. She was a little older than I was. She wasn't older than me, but she lived a little, you know, more than me so far. And she had already lost her virginity and all that stuff. And I was like, you know what? Let's that sounds like fun. Let's just play, let's just mess around. And so we mess around, and that's when I really, really knew I liked girls.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

And yeah, so that's that's where it started. And so parents, of course, don't think anything about two girls spending the night because that's very common. Yeah. So were you guys full on like in eighth grade actually having oral sex with each other, kissing, making out the whole nine yards? We were like off and on all of it.

SPEAKER_04 9:22

But and there would be Jolene acting up. But uh as far as what started it was we we played not spin the bottle, but we played some game. Some game, yeah, some kind of game that got things. Seven minutes in heaven. Yeah, something like that. To get it all started.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

And yeah. And and you you think that girl definitely had an effect on well, like you said, it made you realize you were into girls. So what made you well, probably just curiosity more than anything. And you know, as a woman, you want to experience a man. So tell us about your first guy. And we met him in school, I assume. How old was he? He was probably 18 or 19. Okay. Enough to get in trouble.

SPEAKER_04 10:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

I didn't care at the time. Right, of course. You you wouldn't be going to jail. Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 10:23

I would be fine.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

So tell us about him. How do you did you meet him? Where'd you meet him? Okay, so I met him that day. Oh my God. Now we know where her instant gratification issues come from.

SPEAKER_04 10:38

So we met, we met that day. Sh my friend had another boyfriend or whatever he was at the time who had a friend. And of course, I was I was her friend, so I get to hang out with him. Yeah. And we were we just kind of talked and we drank some that night, and I was I was just all in for it already. Were you were you attracted to him? Uh yes and no. I mean, honestly, I can't remember what the guy looks like now, but and that's okay. You know? I mean, obviously I just think he was some kind of an attractive to be with him.

SPEAKER_01 11:14

Yeah, but that could also be the alcohol. It could be too, also. Did you see did you see him after that? No. No? So it was just a one and done. Yeah. Did he know he took your virginity?

SPEAKER_04 11:24

I don't know. I really don't know. I know one of my one of our friends, one of our guy friends that used to stay the night all the time. This was just actual guy friend. He he knew it before I told him. He was like, you lost your virginity.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

I was like, Yeah. You know, women, or I mean, I should say girls, tend to fall in love with the first person that takes their virginity. So that's interesting. Not only did you give well, it is a once-in-a-lifetime thing, but the fact that you did not become emotionally attached like most girls do, yeah, is interesting in itself. I'm not like that in general. You're not? No. It's just been part of your part of your being.

SPEAKER_04 12:09

You're not either. I mean, I do have to be attracted or in some kind of attraction with somebody, but also I can completely just like it's sex.

SPEAKER_01 12:23

Yeah. That's fine. That's wild. Okay, so after him, who was the next guy? I'm pretty sure it was our one of our other friends. And how how soon afterwards do you think? Uh it was probably like a month or so after. Okay. So how many guys did you have sex with before you graduated approximately?

SPEAKER_02 12:48

Doesn't it have to be the exact before I graduated? Oh, I don't know. Wait, we're talking graduated high school?

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Yeah. So you so you became promiscuous. Yeah. So you went from the cat good Catholic girl to public schools to let this be a warning to parents right there.

SPEAKER_04 13:04

Look, I don't know, because the Catholic thing is starting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

Well, true, true. But and the Catholic girls for some reason think you know, anal is better than regular because they can't get pregnant. That doesn't make any sense. I I agree completely. But somehow. Right. I mean, Kat, did you go to a Catholic school? Oh, you did you go to a Catholic school? I think I thought you did.

SPEAKER_03 13:28

No, but my child does.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

Oh, that's right. Well, he's gonna be in the anal soon, just so you know.

SPEAKER_03 13:36

Oh gosh. I did not go to Catholic school, but my older sister did. They tried it out with her first, yeah, and then realized, so then they put my younger sister and I in public. Yeah, they're like this shit, this thing isn't working for me.

SPEAKER_01 13:53

And it's expensive, exactly. Not now. It's not expensive now.

SPEAKER_03 13:59

No, not with like the state stuff that they like give you money to go to private schooling. Oh especially where I'm at. Wow. Well, yeah, so I don't really pay much at all.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

That's interesting that that Catholic schools are not expensive now. But I I mean my kids went to private schools for a little bit through grade school, and then we switched them to public, which it was obviously a higher-end public schools. It's not like it was inner city public schools, but because that's a whole different thing. So, but my God, I think we were paying 20 grand a year just for three kids to go to, you know, a private school kind of thing. It is so you became promiscuous. Anything anything stand out in that period of time for you? Anything that, you know, did you do threesomes, anal, whatever? Your first gangbang.

SPEAKER_04 14:52

No, I know that, not yet. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

Well I would say I just completely blanked on the question. What was it? That's okay. Did anything stand out during that time from you know, when you lost your virginity to, you know, 18?

SPEAKER_04 15:13

I noticed that I didn't hang out with people in school. I was always hanging out with an older crowd outside of school. And that's probably what made me promiscuous and start getting into things because I just need you to talk louder, that's all.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

You're so quiet and demure, and I'm not. I know. Okay, so you were hanging out with an older crowd, girls and boys, or just boys? Girls and guys, yeah. Okay. So was it were you just partying a lot, or you guys went and did things, and then you know, the sex was all natural at that point?

SPEAKER_04 15:53

Yeah, the sex just kind of came when when it happened, it was natural. It wasn't like planned or anything, but I I was a little horn dog back then, so yeah, horn dog now.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Yeah, but I would say uh you might be the definition of a nymphomaniac, but I'm not a hundred percent sure. So, but because I think you just enjoy all kinds of sex, yeah, right? Yes. And then I mean it's what and I mean, outside of your kids, obviously, and your husband, it is what you look forward to. Right. And it's very it's clearly in your lifestyle.

SPEAKER_05 16:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Okay. So where did who did you get with that made you want to do crazy things and crazy comport compared to vanilla people like me?

SPEAKER_04 16:42

Well, I mean, I'd still say it originally started with the girl friend I had. Yeah. That got me into everything. But then also I would say at another point, there was a couple that I had actually met and played with once. And that was totally a new experience for me. Oh, obviously it was new, but how how old were you when that happened?

SPEAKER_01 17:08

17. Wow. And how were how old were they, do you think? I think they were like early 20s. Okay. Did they and how did you meet them? Great question.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

I haven't thanked you. Also through my friend who was she okay, so she was in like foster care and she had been moved all around places. So she was already in and out of what she was doing, and I just kind of fought along with her, and it was it was more fun for me than anything.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

So you had this first experience at did you say 17? And how did that go for you? Guess it went well.

SPEAKER_04 17:48

I mean, we had fun. You did? Did you spend the night with them? Uh no. So I went over there and played. We m I messed with her first and played with him and then both together. And then once I was done, I just went home.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

That's every guy's dream, just so you know. Did you continue did you continue that relationship with them? Like just go have sex whenever they felt like it or you felt a couple times, but then they disappeared, and I wonder where they were now. Huh interesting. Did did your parents know that you were that promiscuous or not?

SPEAKER_04 18:24

No. Well, my I knew my mom knew something because I was out here with 20-something year olds. Of course I was doing something. Right. But she obviously didn't want to, you know. Yeah, address it.

SPEAKER_01 18:36

Uh believe me, sometimes it's just easier as a parent.

SPEAKER_04 18:38

They definitely did not know I was promiscuous. Did your siblings know? My sister had an idea, but we also were very close. And then I I used her ID all the time to get into clubs with her. So she was she was a young sister.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:57

Right. So you you had your th first threesome at 17. You did it a few more times and then they were gone. And what happens next? Did you continue the threesome thing, or do did you just go back to one-on-one stuff, or I mean, have a girl and a guy at different times, that kind of thing?

SPEAKER_04 19:18

It just honestly depended on what I wanted at the time, because there was some of the people that I was hanging out with oh this eight eighteen, nineteen or something like that. I started dating this guy who he in quotes thought I was his his prostitute, basically. Oh, interesting. Yeah. And he would have me, well, he would have me fuck him and then go fuck his friend, go from his friend back to him and tell him how good it was or whatever. But not in the same room, so you went to two different locations? Two different rooms.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

And it it was a weird. How old were you at this time? Nineteen. Nineteen. Okay. Did they uh the guy that basically felt like he owned you? Let's just use it that way. Did he make money off of you? Oh, he did.

SPEAKER_04 20:11

He did, yeah. And now I'm I'm smart now. I would have been like, fuck, that's my money. Yeah. But I was stupid back then.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

And and that look, you were young.

SPEAKER_04 20:19

I was gonna go and he was older and how old was he? I think he was like 20 something. Too old.

SPEAKER_03 20:27

Okay, wait, so he was friend. His friend was paying him to have sex with you.

SPEAKER_04 20:34

Well, yes. So his friend was, and then his friend's dad was also. Like how much? Yeah, do you even know? I don't even know now. Honestly, I I know what I've I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

She I mean, she's so young, Kat, is still and fairly naive. I mean, sexually more maturing.

SPEAKER_04 20:56

Very naive.

SPEAKER_01 20:56

Yeah, naive about the world. How long were you with him?

SPEAKER_04 21:00

It only lasted like a couple months, but it was it was a lot during that couple months.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:06

So he would basically pimp you out to anybody.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

Were they people that he didn't know? No, it was people he knew, so that was that was alright.

SPEAKER_04 21:14

How did you get out of that relationship? Luckily, he went back with his ex. So I had to drive. Well, not I. I rode with him all the way down to Mississippi. I can't remember for what reason, but his baby mama or something was down there, and we rode back and he was with her. I was like, oh How did you get back home? How did you get back home? Well, we rode home. I got I got back home.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

Yeah. Did how did she take him bringing you there?

SPEAKER_00 21:48

I mean, was she I wasn't anybody to be like, Who is this bitch coming over here?

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Well, wait a minute But he took you to her house or wherever she was staying, apartment, whatever. And she Did she even acknowledge you? Oh, that's so fun. She said no, by the way. She shook her head. That's so fucked up. That's so fucked up that a woman would not react one way or another. Right. You know, like, I don't give a fuck about him. I don't give a fuck about him.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

But also that makes me think like, how many times has he done this to her? Yeah, she's numb to it. Right. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

So yeah, cat, she's not like you and I.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

Yeah, I know. I'm over here like, get the sugar.

SPEAKER_01 22:30

Get the super glue. Or super glue and when shield wipers down.

SPEAKER_05 22:36

Oh Lord.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

You know, don't fuck with us. We are we are vindictive bitches.

SPEAKER_03 22:46

I'm trying to quit.

SPEAKER_01 22:47

No, we're not. No, we're not. We'll never quit. Okay. That's just an interesting thing, though. That like you said, maybe she was numb to it. So you two rode back to whatever state again. And then what happened? Did you stay with him for a while or not? No. No, I went back to my mom's. You did? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:10

And that that was all good? Yeah. That was until I met my baby daddy. And how did you meet him? He was sitting in the side of his passenger's front. What was that song? Oh yeah. Scrubs'.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

No, Scrubs is the name of the song. Sitting in the front passenger side and whatever.

SPEAKER_04 23:30

That's exactly what it was. He was sitting in the front of his best friend's ride, and so was I. So you were parked somewhere, or you guys were well, we were we were at parked at a a park, a basketball park, basically, where they have basketball courts. And that's where you just hung out and met with people.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

So and and how did you two start talking? Did he approach you?

SPEAKER_04 23:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

I mean, you're so beautiful now. I can't even imagine what you looked like at 20, 21, 19. I mean, you know what I mean? Yeah. Do you think you look the same?

SPEAKER_04 24:04

No. I mean, I think I a little bit, but no. At the same time, I don't.

unknown 24:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:09

Because I I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

So what happened with the baby daddy? You you obviously were into him.

SPEAKER_04 24:15

Yes. I was very much into him.

SPEAKER_01 24:16

Were you in love with him at some point?

SPEAKER_04 24:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

I was. And how long did that last?

unknown 24:21

God damn it.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

Seven.

SPEAKER_00 24:27

No.

SPEAKER_04 24:29

Hell, I can't remember now, but not that long.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

Oh, so months, not years.

SPEAKER_04 24:33

Well, no, it it was I see I say not that long, but yes, years. Years? Seven six, seven years is a long time. Well, no, he he's my longest relationship. But yeah, I don't it was a little year, maybe two years.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

Because I yeah, because I got pregnant with So you got pregnant and you left him when you found out you were pregnant?

SPEAKER_04 24:55

Well, I had we had our daughter first, and then I found out I was pregnant. While we were okay, check this. We were driving from Kentucky to go to California because their family convinced me that we can move to California. So we up and drive to California. We get to Colorado and they got in a wreck. So we had to move to one vehicle. Oh goodness. Then I don't remember what happened to the other one, but we had three vehicles, two rentals that had one was again done, and then the other one we had to turn back in. But we ended up being in Colorado for a month or so because we couldn't get to California. But also my birthday came and we were in a hotel and I got sick in the morning. Like, why am I getting sick right now? I haven't even had anything to drink or anything. Right, yeah. I was like, oh yeah, you know, you've had that feeling before. And I had to go to the dollar store, give me a little dollar pregnancy test. I was like, oh happy fucking birthday. Oh my god. And and all while my car was being towed, and we again we were in Colorado. Yeah. So I call my parents, get my car out of the tow place, and get me to come home, please. And that's when I knew I was done with my baby daddy.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

I would think. So how many, like his whole family decided they were going to go to California? How many people are we talking about in three cars that got down to one?

SPEAKER_04 26:32

I think maybe 10. Oh my god. Almost 10. I don't know. Look, it was it was a time.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

It was a shit show, is what it sounds like.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Shit show. Okay, so you find out you're pregnant, and do you immediately call your and oh yeah? Good for you.

SPEAKER_02 26:47

Oh yeah. I'm mom, I'm pregnant. I'm stuck out here. I can't get home.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

So that baby daddy, he's the baby daddy for two of your babies. Now, you so you left him. Do you ever hear from him again?

SPEAKER_04 27:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

He's in and out right now. How long did he when did you tell him you're pregnant with the second kid?

SPEAKER_04 27:09

Well, when we when I found out I was pregnant and then I really left him, left him when we went to Florida. We my family and I took a trip to Florida and I was like, I don't need this shit at home. Yeah. I don't need him. Yeah, not at all.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

You have a safe place to go to. Yeah. And so that ended.

SPEAKER_04 27:34

Yeah. He was crazy enough to leave his leave the keys inside the house, right? Shut the doors. Forgot something. So he broke into my mom's door.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Yeah. Did she call the police?

SPEAKER_04 27:48

No. Oh. My dad. My dad usually wanted to fuck somebody up, but he did not. He did not.

SPEAKER_01 27:57

Good. So you're pregnant with your second child and you're living with your mom and parents slash parents. Did uh how did all that go over? I mean, I mean, I know they're your safe space, but you know, as parents, and you probably know this too now, we get a little pissed at our kids when they you're like, okay, what are you doing with your life at this point? So what did what did they say to you?

SPEAKER_04 28:21

Well I would always get told, like, of course, you're going down the wrong path, or whenever things got bad, but there were times when I myself was bringing around some money that they didn't know where was coming from. And I would just bring it to them, like, here, here's some or whatever you need, groceries or whatever. Were you prostituting in Colorado while you were there?

SPEAKER_01 28:47

No. No, I did not.

SPEAKER_04 28:49

Uh look, I could have, but I know.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

Well, that's what I was thinking. There's 10 people. What are they doing for money at that point? So I assume they just got short-term jobs of some sort. So when you're back with your mom, you're bringing around money to give to your parents, and they're like, mm-hmm, where's this coming from?

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Right. But they never, I mean, they wouldn't ask. They wouldn't. I'm just thinking as a mom.

SPEAKER_04 29:15

I know. I and you're as well. But at the same time, like, I don't I don't want to know. Really? Yeah. If it's that, I don't want to know. Just because I know how I was. Yeah. And I don't, I don't want that for my kid.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

Yeah. Do you think you would be stricter with your child and be more vocal about it? Yes. Yeah, I know. I know I would. I know Kat would for sure. For sure. Yeah. And she may joke a lot about her son, and he is just adorable, but and she does fuck with him constantly. But it's all out of love. Right, right. And making me have a stronger character.

SPEAKER_04 29:51

Yeah. Stronger backbone.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

So had you already had the baby or were you prostituting while you were pregnant?

SPEAKER_04 30:02

I did it before I got with my baby daddy. And then I'd say kinda like here and there I was doing it, but I had a full-time job also. So I would it was just Yeah, it's just extra money.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

Absolutely. We just interviewed an escort Monday night, I think. And uh she she still works a full-time job. Yeah. Like she said, that's my base money, and anything extra is just extra money. And my God love you, you know, take what you can get, kind of thing. And I will say this, God knows I've given it away for free my whole life.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

So many pounds for free. It's been paid.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

I was so mad when she said that she charges $50 a picture, and I'm like, I'd have been a millionaire by now. Man, literally. So you were bringing them home money. You were you pregnant, or was this after you delivered the second baby?

SPEAKER_04 31:03

No, yeah. So after we after I had him, yeah, I was about after that. I started dabbling in with it again.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

But did you hold on a minute? I need to go on hold just for a second, you guys. Okay, I'm back after my coughing fit. So where did I just leave off? Do you guys remember? Oh, it was after, so you dabbled in it after your second baby. And then what so you were you just dating people in between, you know, second baby and Devon?

SPEAKER_04 31:38

I wasn't dating. I was fucking Okay. I wasn't a der, I was not looking for nothing, didn't need nothing.

SPEAKER_01 31:47

You are again, you're every young man's dream at that point. You you just are. They don't they don't want to be emotionally attached, they just want to fuck.

SPEAKER_00 31:55

And then you get those ones that do. That do want to get emotionally engaged. So what did you think?

SPEAKER_03 32:01

It's always the ones that you don't want to get attached to.

SPEAKER_00 32:05

Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_04 32:06

Well, then the one that is attached.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

So that's fine. Did did you so I mean just you're just out fucking and how many times a week do you think?

SPEAKER_04 32:19

This is where a couple times a week?

SPEAKER_01 32:20

This is where the nymphomaniac part diagnosis might come in in here.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

A couple times a week.

SPEAKER_04 32:25

A couple times a week a week. And you were getting paid for this or no? No, not always. Okay, sometimes but most of it for my fun.

SPEAKER_01 32:36

And when when did you first have animal sex?

SPEAKER_04 32:44

I don't know. I wanna say I wanna say it was with my baby daddy, but we didn't have sex that much, so I can't remember.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

Interesting.

SPEAKER_04 32:54

But I think it was that I think it was him.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

You think it was him, and then as you're out fucking, did any other guy want to do that? Oh yeah. And did you just tell him no? I know you've told me it's a hard no. Hard no. Which is so funny. I mean, you are the tiniest little thing. You are but so is Kat. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I I'm trying to figure out how some people are into it and some people are not. Well, I'm into it. Oh, I I love it.

SPEAKER_04 33:23

But not with other, not with many other people. Like we don't the first time I did DP was the other night.

SPEAKER_01 33:29

What?

SPEAKER_04 33:30

I I do D VP all the time, but I've never done DP, and that was the first time I did it the other night. Well, please let's go into that. Yeah, wait, explain. DP, like one in the front, one in the back. Yes, so one in the pussy and one in the ass.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:44

So you had I had one in the okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 33:47

I'm following.

SPEAKER_01 33:48

Yeah, one in her pussy, one in her ass. Nobody in your mouth, you weren't airtight?

SPEAKER_04 33:51

No, not that time.

SPEAKER_01 33:53

Well, obviously. I haven't been airtight yet. Yes, there's goals, but so you I'm sorry, I'm gonna need to just rewind for a second here. And I like this because we're we're going back and forth, and you are sharing that because before when we've talked, you're like, nope, nope, not doing it with these guys, blah.

SPEAKER_00 34:13

So well, it was a no until the other night, and I was like, he's he's going for my ask. Yes, okay. And did it hurt first? That's my first question. I mean, yeah, but to some degree. I like pain. You like pain? And I like that kind of hurt sometimes. I'm taking notes now. Excuse me.

SPEAKER_01 34:39

So what made you decide the other day? Oh, you were you were not planning on it, it just kind of happened. Yeah, it just happened.

SPEAKER_04 34:44

We were playing with somebody and he would just tickling my bottle. And I was like, oh, he he's trying to go in there. Is it okay? Yes, yes, that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Okay. I assume he fingered it first.

SPEAKER_04 34:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:59

Okay, and you were on top of somebody. Was it Devon?

SPEAKER_04 35:02

Yeah, I was on top of him. And he was in my pussy.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

That's wild.

SPEAKER_03 35:08

And was that Devon was in the front? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

Yeah. Yeah. He was in he was in her pussy, and then the other person was in her ass. But he fingered you, played around with you, got you a little looser first.

SPEAKER_04 35:20

Yeah. And we had a bunch of baby old.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

Yeah, that's it's just so important to do that. And especially to make that sphincter muscle relax and get used to it, because the minute anybody tries to go in without, you know, massaging it, it's gonna hurt. So you have to you have to get it stretched out a little bit. Did and that was a couple weeks ago, you said? No, it was the other day. The other day? Two days ago. Two nights ago? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:45

And where were you at a club or were you just at home? Where were you? We had gone out and it was just some random guy that we we have apps and stuff that we find people. What kind of tell me, tell us. Well, I'm trying to remember what it's called. Sniffers or snuffers?

SPEAKER_01 36:03

Well, I hope it's not I hope it's not snuffers because that those are death videos, snuff films.

SPEAKER_04 36:09

Okay, but it was, I don't know, it was something. Yeah. But they had they have people that are just on apps and they can like check in different places, like say here I'm at the park or here at a hotel or somewhere, and you can literally come and fuck them if you want. That's like the goal of these apps is to find people to fuck.

SPEAKER_01 36:30

Kat, did you know about these apps? Because I've never heard of these apps, but it doesn't surprise me. I have no idea. I could give you all, we could give you all the links. I I think we're gonna have to get with Devon after this episode, and I need a list of the apps.

SPEAKER_02 36:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

Kat, don't don't let us forget that. We're gonna need the list of the apps. Okay. So let's go back to one thing that you just said earlier, is that you like pain. And when you say that, tell me what you mean by that.

SPEAKER_04 37:00

I mean I like being bitten and scratched and hard. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

And what do you think what do you think got you into that? The the very f like did someone just do it?

SPEAKER_04 37:13

Yeah, I think so. Again, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

You gotta get closer to that microphone for me.

SPEAKER_04 37:18

I really can't remember that, but and that's okay. I assume that that's just what happened.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

And when did you realize you really started liking that and worked it into your sex?

SPEAKER_04 37:29

When I got with Devon.

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Oh. Interesting.

SPEAKER_04 37:33

I didn't really I mean, I knew I was a lifestyle and I knew I was a freak, but I didn't know everything about it and everything I liked. Well, obviously, I'm still learning everything I liked. Yeah. But that was something that I'd never ever explored before.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

And when I got with him, we explored everything and so one of the things that Candy is very open about is that she loves pain and she likes to be hit like as hard as she can by a man across her face or whatever, and then she had a like a dislocated jaw or certainly close to it for probably a month, and it was very sore for her. But but for her, she associates that pain with some kind of love. Do you do that too? I think so, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 38:19

I don't really think about it like that, but I mean because I mean I don't let uh not everybody does that. He I only let him smack me and stuff. Okay, that's good. Oh god, no, he would kill somebody if they even tried.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

I would think that would kill somebody too.

SPEAKER_01 38:36

How does how did how does he feel about doing it?

SPEAKER_04 38:40

He he only likes it like when I'm when we're really into it and he's into it, but otherwise he's I mean, he's such a yeah, he's so chill, yeah, and he's such a kind soul.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

I mean, he is, and that's the same thing with Curtis. I'm like, I cannot imagine either one of these men ever truly ever hitting a woman in anger or anything, you know? So for them to do it recreationally, well, I I have to ask. I have to make him do it. Well, she does too, she does too, and like she'll tell him yeah, she gets pretty aggressive. Yeah, but that's her personality. You're so chill. Do you get aggressive in those times? Like fucking hit me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:27

Or just aggressive with sex, period.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

Well, let's talk about that a little bit more. What does that mean?

SPEAKER_04 39:33

Like if we don't if I don't get sex or something dick right then and there, I'm I'm pouty your little baby.

SPEAKER_01 39:44

I I I think I throw temporal tantrums.

SPEAKER_03 39:47

As a matter of fact, I call it the horngree. I get horn gri. I do a lot. That's a that's a good word, Kat.

SPEAKER_04 39:54

Even though I don't mean to.

SPEAKER_01 39:57

But we do it. Yeah. Do you and and Kat weigh in on this too? I feel like that I get horngree, and I feel like I'm not in control if I don't get sex when I want it. So is that a thing for you, yeah, Mola? Yeah. Kat, is it a thing for you?

SPEAKER_03 40:18

I think so, because my man always says, like, I'll be picking fights or I'll be just be bitching and bickering about nothing, and then I won't even be in the mood, and he'll like not force me to do it, but we end up having sex and he'll be like, You just need fucked, didn't you? Like, I knew it. Like, yes, is an unbiased. Yeah, I guess so. The the answer is yes.

SPEAKER_01 40:36

We're so were you I know I was extremely horny while I was pregnant. Were you extremely horny? Oh my god, yes. Isn't it crazy?

SPEAKER_04 40:45

I loved sex when I was pregnant. And it's we really I guess I had fucking yes, I had threesomes and gangbangs. It was great.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

I stuck with my husband. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:58

Well, that's my third pregnancy that happened. So what were you saying, Kat? I don't think I wanted to be touched. I think parts of me remember being super horny, especially in the beginning, maybe, but I was so sick all day, every day that like yeah, I didn't want to be touched then, and then like I hated my baby dad, so I was just like, no, I do remember using my vibrator at one point in the very beginning, like multiple, multiple times a day.

SPEAKER_04 41:25

I use a lot of my machines because he was on the road working, so I had my machines going.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:33

Yeah. I even though I was truly vomiting and nauseous all day, every day with all three pregnancies, I wanted to have sex with my husband as much as possible when when he was either in town or whatever. But it was just one of those things I could not get enough sex and I didn't care. And I only got sick when I ate food. So I wasn't sick when I wasn't eating.

SPEAKER_04 41:55

So the only time for my my third pregnancy, the only time I was sick was with COVID. My me and my son had COVID really bad. Yeah, I'll cut that out by the way.

unknown 42:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 42:04

When we had COVID really bad when I was pregnant, and it was just me and him in the house because the other ones went to my mom's because it was it was bad. And he uh got up to about 104 degree fever.

SPEAKER_01 42:18

Oh my god, and how pregnant were you? I was seven months pregnant. Oh my god, lol. Yeah, seriously. That's did you didn't go to the emergency room?

SPEAKER_04 42:27

No. I mean, oh well, they weren't they weren't taken, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

They weren't taking anybody either. They would have taken a pregnant woman for sure.

SPEAKER_04 42:33

Not my hospital. Our hospital was shit.

SPEAKER_01 42:36

Welcome to Kentucky. Right.

SPEAKER_04 42:37

No, for real.

SPEAKER_03 42:39

So So okay, walk us through then after that. You said you were still doing all those gangbangs and stuff during pregnancy. How are you meeting these people? Same thing, apps and yeah, same in our lifestyle group.

SPEAKER_01 42:53

That makes well yeah, it makes sense. I mean, and during the COVID thing really didn't bother you guys because they were either people you knew or the apps or whatever. Did and I know we've talked about you uh doing the gangbang while you were pregnant. Well, you gave birth three days later. And you were trying to have the baby, right? Because it had been uh you were were you overdue?

SPEAKER_04 43:15

No, it was just gonna be a c-section, and oh it would have been my third. I was trying to do it not C-section, yeah, but it was already planned, so I was trying to go into labor beforehand, didn't work.

SPEAKER_01 43:28

So after you have her, you can't obviously have sex for well, you can, because you had c-sections.

SPEAKER_04 43:34

No, you still have to wait six weeks, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:36

Well, thank God.

SPEAKER_04 43:38

Hell, I would have gotten pregnant right away. Oh my god, can you imagine? No, no, you would kill me.

SPEAKER_01 43:45

Okay, so you weren't having sex, and like my ex husband always used to say, he'd be like, you know, your mouth still works.

SPEAKER_04 43:50

Oh yeah, my mouth worked just fine.

SPEAKER_03 43:55

That's my favorite when you're like, Oh, I don't want to have sex. I'm on my period, I'm bleeding. Like, well, you're mouth. Your butt's not bleeding. Your butt's not bleeding.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

Well, that's how it was after the hysterectomy I had.

SPEAKER_04 44:06

We um I was supposed to wait, but we did anal first.

SPEAKER_00 44:09

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:10

Oh my god, that's great.

SPEAKER_00 44:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

So when you always told me that anal was a hard no, I always thought you meant completely. I didn't realize you were having anal at Devon.

SPEAKER_00 44:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

And actually that even might make more sense because he can go in a lot further because of his size, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:28

So okay. Can you somebody explain that to me? Like you're explaining it to a five, not maybe not a five-year-old, but like how what? You can go deeper into the ass than Yeah, by far.

SPEAKER_01 44:39

Because you don't have you don't have walls.

SPEAKER_03 44:41

Right.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

You don't have your they're not hitting their cervix. There's nothing because your cervix stops a penis.

SPEAKER_03 44:48

I just feel like you go into the ass at a certain point, like you're just gonna like explode and you will, you will rupture. Well amazing. Yeah. He will. I think I was scarred. I think like there used to be this video that went around when I saw his little called Mr. Hands, and it's this guy. I can't remember if he was fucking the horse or getting fucked by the horse. What? He ended up dying. I swear.

SPEAKER_04 45:09

Oh, I think I said he was fucked by the horse and he died.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

Yes. Okay, well, every ass has some limitation. Of course, is not it.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

Have you seen those dildos by people even in their mouths?

SPEAKER_01 45:21

No. Look, I I don't know. And because of nothing wrong with that, and because of candy and because of Cora, now I get fucking videos about shitting in people's pants, big dicks in people's ass, porn dicks in people's asses, and uh candy. I can't even remember what hers was. But but thank you all for that. Social listening is real, people. Let me just tell you, it is. And my porn feed is really weird right now. Thank you all.

SPEAKER_03 45:49

That is so funny because my partner says that same exact thing. He's like, My phone's always listening to me. And he said that because I was telling him about the cora story, and he was like, I've heard enough, I've heard enough. And he's like, Stop, my phone's gonna be like soliciting me to people like that were just taking their mouth. And I was like, just send them my way. And then he came in and I was like, Let's test this theory. And he like came in and I was holding this little lip gloss in bed, and he's like, What are you doing? Because he was talking to me, I was like staring at the lip gloss and not like even acknowledging him. He's like, Hello, did you hear me? And I was like, Hold on. And he's like, What are you doing? And I was like, I'm trying to like see if my phone's listening to my brain too. And then he's like, What? Because if I wake up tomorrow, yeah, I was like, I'm just sitting here thinking about how I need to order more of this lip gloss. And I was like, But if I say it out loud, my phone will probably hear me. I was like, So now I was like, I'm chasing your series. He's always like, I don't even have to be think talking about it. I just have to be like thinking about it, you know, and it's on my phone. I swear to God I didn't wake up to lip gloss stuff, but he he was like, I gotta watch my ads because they're gonna be, it's nothing but people talking about scat porn and yeah, yeah, no kidding.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

I I literally laugh too because I think about or look at super cute dresses or something online, and then my whole Facebook feed is filled with it. I'm like, oh my god, it just drives me nuts.

SPEAKER_03 47:19

So, yes, social listening is good though, because then you like get the ads and it's cheaper elsewhere. Like, I'll be viewing like that's what I do to get my whole like shopping addiction out of the way. I go and I'll like fill my cart online. Something about like filling it, but not checking out and purchasing it, just like forgetting about it and moving on is satisfying to me. But then later I come back and I touch my phone and it's like, oh, here, let's send you a coupon to finish checking out, and then it's all the ads of master.

SPEAKER_01 47:46

Yeah, yeah, that's a trick I learned. Totally does it. Yeah. Well, let's get us back on track because I do I love our side conversations. So you have the baby the third baby, and then were were you and Devon in the lifestyle in between baby two and baby three?

SPEAKER_04 48:06

Well, I met him when my son was turning two.

SPEAKER_01 48:11

Oh, wait a minute.

SPEAKER_03 48:14

Wait, I thought you guys you and Devon only have the one baby. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 48:17

Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, I was all confused. Never mind. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 48:21

We only I need to I need to backtrack for a second because you you lost me for a second when you were saying you were with original you only have the two baby daddies, correct? Yes. So after you found out you're pregnant when you were all in Colorado and you went home, so did baby daddy number one did he stay out in California for a bit, or did he follow you home and come home with you? Because obviously baby number two was made in between there. So I think we skipped that part about where y'all continued to see each other after you left him and his family.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

She got pregnant in Colorado, so that was baby number two, right?

SPEAKER_03 48:59

Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I thought that was baby number one. Okay, baby number two. I got you now.

SPEAKER_01 49:03

Yeah. Okay. So so yeah, he's still in her life, but I don't think she's happy about it.

SPEAKER_04 49:08

So yeah, I was not.

SPEAKER_01 49:10

So there's that. Okay. So her and Devon have baby number three.

SPEAKER_04 49:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 49:14

Yes, okay.

SPEAKER_04 49:16

And we met when my son was turning two.

SPEAKER_01 49:18

Got it. And then when you guys met, and I know it was like love at first sight kind of thing, or something like that, because you you were immediately together at that point, right?

SPEAKER_03 49:30

Wait, you didn't you go to uh you had to do the drive, right? The drive?

SPEAKER_01 49:35

Yeah, because he was at a distance, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:38

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So no, he didn't get a hotel the first night.

SPEAKER_04 49:42

Well, he did, so he did have a hotel, but that was like it was maybe the second night that we well. Because he was still living with somebody, right? Well, he was still with his wife.

SPEAKER_03 49:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 49:55

And that's right, separated from his wife.

SPEAKER_03 49:57

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 49:59

We've all been there.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:01

Or we're all there.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

Yes, yes, we are. So it from the moment you met him, your son's two, you and just to clarify, you could you guys have been together seven years. Is that what it's six years? Okay. I uh it's that it can't be this.

SPEAKER_03 50:18

Didn't you guys after like one of the first weekends or the it was the trip, maybe it was one of the first trips you guys went on. You guys drove separately, but then you ended up towing your car back so you could drive back together.

SPEAKER_04 50:28

Yes, that was that was our actual like first vacation meet, honestly, because that was he had invited like a bunch of other friends, and I was one of his friends that was invited, and I was the only one that actually said they were gonna come, and that's when I packed up the kids and went on down to Gatlinburg. And and yeah, drove back.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

Is that where he lived at the time? No, no, he wasn't he's still in Frankfurt. What was in Gatlinburg? Just Gatlinburg. But what made you go there?

SPEAKER_04 51:02

There were a party. Oh, a party. No, no, no. So this was a good thing. The first time I was just with our kids, with the kids.

SPEAKER_01 51:10

Oh, so it was just a vacation. Oh, yeah. A real vacation. Yeah. Good grief. Dear Lord, help me. Sorry. I know we got a lot. No, it's it's not. It's not a lot. I'm just not processing right this morning. So at that point you two are together. And he's separated from his wife. And do you guys move in together?

SPEAKER_04 51:32

Well, no. We didn't say move in because he, I mean, he was staying over my place a lot more.

SPEAKER_01 51:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:40

Because he didn't have a place at the time. But we didn't move in together till August. August of 21.

SPEAKER_01 51:54

Yeah. Okay. Did you so w but at that point are you you guys are going to swingers parties? He introduced you more to the lifestyle, right?

SPEAKER_04 52:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

And the one thing that I remember him saying when we've spoken before was that, you know, you were already into the lifestyle, but you just didn't recognize it as that. You were into threesomes, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 52:18

But I've done everything that was involved in the lifestyle, just didn't know there was a term for it.

SPEAKER_01 52:23

Or a place or parties or anything. What was what was it like the first time you went to a party or a club? What was what was the situation?

SPEAKER_04 52:32

Well, our very first party. It went we went into it with a you know, great thought that it was gonna be a good time, and it was. We got greeted by the at the at the door by the host at the time, really good friends now, but and he instantly was like, Oh, this is gonna be a great, a great place, just because he came out to the car and grabbed my bags and stuff for us. Oh, nice. So that was pretty nice, and then gave us a tour of the house. But following that, I got sick.

SPEAKER_01 53:01

Wait, was that one of the first videos you guys made?

SPEAKER_04 53:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:05

That is so weird because I've seen that one. I I think Devon sent it to me, and he was in the middle of just talking and interviewing people and stuff, and you were there and then you were gone, and then he said Lola got sick, you know.

SPEAKER_04 53:18

So we'll oh no, that was a podcast.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

Oh, that's what I was thinking. Was the podcast? Okay, never mind. So you got sick while you were there? The party, yeah. The party. Okay, and then what happened?

SPEAKER_04 53:32

Well, we stayed, ended up staying the whole night, but I was still sick, and we were chatting with somebody else, one of the other guys there that he was a he's a nerd, talking about computers and stuff. Now I was talking about computers with him because I worked for a stocks and bonds company, so I was talking about stocks and bonds while I was sucking his Devon's dick. But the first time at a party in front of people, and did it bother you at all?

SPEAKER_01 53:59

No, no. How do you you you are super chill? I just think that's part of your personality. But how do you think? Well, I guess it wouldn't be any different that if you were, you know, fucking a couple and one of them's watching, it would just be more people, right? So do you think that that influenced your mindset at all, or do you think you were already there? I just don't give a shit. I'm enjoying myself.

SPEAKER_04 54:23

That but I enjoy myself, I don't care what what it looks like.

SPEAKER_01 54:28

And so funny, you're not a narcissist at all either. You're not, you're not, but you don't, you don't want to in my mind, you're not the center of attention because you're very I don't want to be, but yeah, but you become it because of your sex, quite frankly.

SPEAKER_04 54:44

And I also think it's who I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 54:47

He's a very outgoing and oh she's saying Devon's very outgoing. Yeah. So yeah. Oh yeah. You don't really have to. What were you gonna say, Kat?

SPEAKER_03 54:56

I was gonna say I find it interesting with Lola's story because you know, like with your past, there was no sexual assault, no abuse, nothing of that. Well, not with my parents, but not not with your family. No, not until after. But it's like a lot of these other people we've talked to and stuff, you know, they're that kind of stuff has happened to them at a younger age, and that's kind of like where that has stemmed from. But for you, it's like almost like you were sheltered, the Catholic schooling and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_04 55:30

So it's like and I was just released and I've seen seen everything.

SPEAKER_03 55:35

Yeah, I want that. Yeah. So it's like it doesn't really matter which way like you you come from, you know, like it's just in her soul. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 55:45

Yeah. And and and the fact that you are extremely normal. I mean, truly, you are, other than sex, and I and I'm not saying that you're you're different, but you are a little bit different because you love sex. You want to have it, you want to feel it, you want to explore, you want it, you know what you want. I don't think most people I most people probably never even get there to fulfill their fantasies. You don't really give a shit. You fulfill them or you've developed them, whatever it is. And it's not in a selfish or narcissistic way at all. And I think that makes you very unique. And like Kat said, you didn't have any childhood trauma at all. Yes. So, or at least I don't think you did.

SPEAKER_04 56:28

Not I wouldn't say childhood trauma. I mean it was probably it was probably third to eighth grade, but what happened? Well, I my I guess I called him my boyfriend at the time.

SPEAKER_01 56:45

Yeah, you gotta get a little bit closer, baby.

SPEAKER_04 56:48

I think well he I think he was my boyfriend at the time. He might have just been in eighth grade, you don't really know. Right. But we had we had started to have sex and I didn't want any more. I told him no, and it just went from not a no to I'm just gonna continue doing this and you're just gonna sit there.

SPEAKER_01 57:08

And how old was this person? Uh 18 or 19. Oh, well what was he doing?

SPEAKER_04 57:17

We were talking.

SPEAKER_01 57:19

Wait, no, honey, you told me you were 16 when you had right. He was 19. Yeah, but which you oh I I thought you just said you were in eighth grade when you when you had some trauma.

SPEAKER_03 57:32

Yeah. I think she was saying like the sexual stuff started in eighth grade, right? Yeah. But he Okay, with girls. And then it moved on to that guy.

SPEAKER_04 57:40

Well, the the issues was with the guy.

SPEAKER_01 57:43

Right. Yeah. But so you didn't l you did you lose your virginity at 16 or 8th grade?

SPEAKER_04 57:51

No, it was it was 16.

SPEAKER_01 57:53

Okay. So but you just said this guy was fucking you in eighth grade. I'm just trying to figure out.

SPEAKER_00 57:57

You're right.

SPEAKER_04 57:58

I was still 16.

SPEAKER_01 58:00

In eighth grade. There we go. No. Right. No. She's very smart, I promise you. She was not 16 in eighth grade. No, I'm not dumb. But the guy, whomever it was, what just kept on going and you tell told him no, you didn't want to as a virgin. Got it. Was there any other sexual trauma in your life? I mean, what not necessarily as a child and Jolene is barking again, um, that has affected you. And and you and I spoke beforehand, and you're like, I've forgotten other things, I blocked them, whatever. So I don't want to trigger any of that. But is there anything that you remember that was traumatizing to you that you didn't want to have happen and it did?

SPEAKER_04 58:47

Well, definitely being with the guy who's pimping me out. Yeah. That was I I wanted it at first, and then I realized what he was doing. Yeah. And then I didn't want any more.

SPEAKER_03 58:58

But how did you know that he was getting like money for it? Like, was he just very open about it? Like, oh, hey, you're gonna go and fuck this guy for me and bring back or else what's gonna happen? Yeah, yep, basically.

SPEAKER_01 59:11

Did did he have the guys give you the money, or did he get it directly?

SPEAKER_04 59:14

Yeah, the money. Wow, I'm smarter now. Yeah, I get the money.

SPEAKER_03 59:19

But so was he like physically abusive about it, or like what? No, he wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 59:25

You just thought at that age, like, okay, this is normal type of thing, like this is what I think I honestly, I think even at 19 or whatever, you're still so naive about the real world.

SPEAKER_04 59:37

Yeah, I still was, and he was taking me in, he was an older guy, and I was like, Oh, he's gonna show me all this and that, and this is how I should live. No, that's not how I should live.

SPEAKER_01 59:49

Yeah, and they take advantage of you being ignorant about not knowing what's going on in the world. Uh, just a couple last questions though. But you said I've learned my lesson and I take money now. So let's talk about that. You were in Indianapolis, what was it, last weekend? Did were you there to as a sex worker or were you there to no?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:12

I was actually just there working at the Indy 500 race. That's amazing. What did you do there? I was being um a brand ambassador for Firestone.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:21

Oh, so fires? Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:24

So I've got some I was running a simulator for the cars. Actually, it was really, really cool. Yeah. But it was so loud and so it was it was crazy loud there. Yeah. But it was the best time. Like it was such an adrenaline rush.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:41

It is. It's crazy. Definitely. Now, did that simulator is it for people to pay to come in and do it?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:47

You know, so it's just like it was for everybody to come through the the line and just try that as part of the things that went on through the booth or through the Firestone tent.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:57

That's pretty amazing. Do you think you'll get more work from them?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:01

I hope so. I hope so too.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:03

Whoever your contact is, make sure you stay in contact with them. Because number one, it's just a fun time. And two, it there's just a lot of money there. Yes. You know, people always mistake that, that there's so much money in any kind of racing, whether it be cars, boats, airplanes, there's it's all money. All of it. Did but you know, with your I'm assuming when you say you take money, do you take well, we've talked about this before. You do take money for sex. Okay, so how often does that happen? Are we allowed to talk about that? I don't know. Are we? Well, we are because we never use your real name.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:42

No, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:43

So um I said how often do you take money for sex? Oh I mean, is it weekly? Is it and we've talked about the whole sugar daddy thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:54

Yeah, you know, that's it honestly depends on the week and the the people because it could be one time, it could be three guys that week, could be none. It just all depends on the the week.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:07

And does that in and that doesn't bother you in any way because you're in control? Yeah. I like that. Okay. I don't think I I don't think I have any more questions. Do you, Kat? I don't think so. I mean, I think we've touched on your background, and you know what, Lola? I thought it was gonna be very traumatic. I was going into this being like I had the tissues out over there, I have the paper towels here. I've got this. Paper towels. Well, for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:39

Yeah, mine's not a crazy, crazy story.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:42

It's just I chose to I I love do the things I chose. Yeah. And you know what? Your sexual being is who it is. And when I look about when I look when I think about averages, there's always people on the high end and people on the low end. You're clearly on the high end of any average, right? But it's your choice, and that makes me feel a hundred times better. Because if you were this way because of any childhood trauma, I would be pissed. Right. You know, just like with Candy, just like with Cora the other day. I mean, it's just her story, her story alone. I haven't even posted it yet, but her story is crazy and traumatizing for me for sure. As a mother, you're just like, oh my God. I mean, one of the things is her her mom and dad relinqu relinquished their parental rights to her at nine and put her in what I would call female juvenile detention center.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:42

What?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:43

I mean, just because she acted out, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:45

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:46

And and I I can't stop thinking about that interview, Kat.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:51

Which one?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:52

Cora's.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:53

Oh God, I know. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:55

Is there anything else you wanted to talk about that I didn't ask you about? No. No, I don't think so. Okay. Well, we've covered a lot. And if you remember other things, you're like, uh, I want to go on, or no, I don't want to go on. We can go from there. So, with that said, thank you for coming again today. Thank you for having me. Oh, you're amazing, truly. And thank you, Kat, as always. You're the best. Thank you. And lastly, drop any feedback, comments, questions to info at the vixenchronicles.com, and it's a VXN. And follow us on iHeart, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. Say goodbye, everybody. Bye. Bye.