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The Rufus and Craig Show
Storms, Stars & Big Business
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Join Craig and Rufus as they unpack the latest stories shaping culture, entertainment, sports, and business. This episode covers everything from Philadelphia's powerful storms and the latest celebrity headlines to music industry money moves, follow-up stories, and the conversations everyone is having.
Let's play. Shout out to our wonderful sponsors. Thank you so much for CR Tech Services LLC as well as Michi Builders LLC. We appreciate you all greatly. Let's get into the show today. Rufus, Rufus, Rufus. It is a Sunday. I'm happy to see you. It's time to play. Anyway, it's been a hell of a week. It's been a week. Good morning, by the way. That's right, that's right. Good morning to you. Shout out to Way. Welcome everyone to another episode of Rufus and Craig's show. And Rufus, you know, I did this last week and probably the week before that. What the fuck is going on with this weather?
SPEAKER_01Um, yeah, the weather is weathering because it's weather time. Summertime weather gets crazy sometimes. It's not always rainbows and sunshine. Sometimes it rained. Summertime storms kind of come out of nowhere. And, you know, that's just part of life.
SPEAKER_00I see. Here in Philadelphia in particular, it was like micro bursts of storms yesterday. So we had like down power lines, the streets are flooded, cars are floating down the street. Um, trees have fallen on top of cars, people have lost electricity, and um our mayor, well, the mayor, um Sherelle Parker.
SPEAKER_01You live there?
SPEAKER_00She is, yeah. She held a press conference last night, pretty much to like update people, and folks are going in, telling some, yeah, you spent those millions. I think it was like either 14 or 50, or was it 20 million dollars, whatever, on that 4th of July celebration. Why can't you prioritize this? Like, you know, these storms are no jokes. I see New Orleans is up underwater, New Jersey has been up underwater again. Um, after kind of recovering from that week, you know, prior of being underwater. So it's it's just a lot going on, Rufus. So we'll just send them white light and joy.
SPEAKER_01So let's be grateful that your power and utilities are still on and you're in a you know a well-kept building.
SPEAKER_00Yes, you're right. Well, it's not a building, it's a place, remember? That's what sucked me in three years ago. And really, three years today. If you think, yeah, I've been here three years.
SPEAKER_01Um your background is blurry, which I guess is cool.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. I was multitasking off of this MacBook Pro instead of um the other device I use. So yeah. Well, let's jump into our first story. We're gonna, you know, just ease on into it. And we definitely want to say rest in peace to Nola Wells.
SPEAKER_01Ease on down. Rest in peace, Nola.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. We know that's a difficult story um to begin today's show with. And so we're sending condolences to his family and loved ones. Um, and we recognize that the situation, of course, is extremely um sensitive. And shout out to Tyler Perry. I know we've kind of discussed him on the show.
SPEAKER_01And Kyler Kaepernick.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. They stepped up to support the family during this difficult time. And Rufus, you know, um, moments like this, they kind of remind us, you know, that it's important for people with influence to really show compassion.
SPEAKER_01Yes, I think it's important for all of us to show compassion and empathy, no matter if you're influenced or not.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01Just the human reality of it, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and you you think about it, you know, behind every headline. It's a grieving family sometimes, um, these types of headlines, and hopefully the family continues receiving support. And it just kind of takes me to before we got on here, I saw this. Um, there was a snippet where Angela Rye kind of stood in defense of Andrew Gilliam, who unfortunately um has, you know, okay, had a scandals, a big scandal, the more recent scandal that happened early. I think it was July 2nd, it was right before Essence, but you know, the clip that the Jasmine brand had posted was, you know, oh, you know, this is painful. You all have to realize, you know, when you go on social media and these blogs, write these posts up, that it's not Andrew. He's not looking at any of this, however, but his his wife and children are. And so, you know, we talked about family as it relates to even Nolan Wells, you know, seeing certain things on headlines, but just being kind of sensitive to that. But um, you know, again, best wishes to Nolan Wells' family, um, as well as, you know, since I've kind of spoken about Andrew Gilliam, you know, um, best wishes to him in that particular situation as well.
SPEAKER_01I agree, and this is why empathy is important because you never know what somebody's going through. Yeah. I'm sure he has some type of some kind of issues going on in his life. So, you know, well wishes to him and his family.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, absolutely. And it makes me think back to it was like 20, what was that, 2022 when Chris Brown had an incident or something and everybody went in on Kelly Rowland's T. Well, I forgot which one it was.
SPEAKER_01He probably had a shitload of issues.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was it was something happened. Whatever happened in 2022, but I remember Kelly Rowland saying, you know, everybody deserves grace. Absolutely. Um, and a lot of vloggers, bloggers bashed her about that by even having compassion, even for him. And I just sit and think, I'm like, well, we all have fucked up ass relatives, and some of us ourselves are fucked up.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_00Because we believe how dare us sit there, you know, in judgment of another person. So and and and speaking of that, let's just go on and slide into this next story. And I think this is like yeah, um, sports piece that we would have here. One thing that dominates the headlines, Rufus, that you heard me. I wasn't laughing, but it was like, wow, you know, um the Marcellus Wiley and Anne Marie story. I don't, you're not, you never watched Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, but I know she had a stint on there. I think maybe Garcell's second season, so this could have been 2021. Because I feel like Garcelle came on during COVID or something, somewhere around that time. But but the the former NFL player um in sports comment Taylor has pretty much uh he's got multiple uh felony and sexual assault charges, you know, that he's currently facing. Now he's pleaded not guilty and denies the allegations, but his wife and Marie continues, you know, she had publicly supported him, but it wasn't until recent that shit came down on her, and somehow I think TMZ reported that he held something like to her jaw, like the poker. We don't know if it was a knife, whatever the situation was. But um when you think about these spouses and how she defended him before, I think he had some rape allegations at some point. It could have been from college, not against her, but it was against him. Um and she defended him then going into that that show, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills or whatnot. But um, you know, I'm not married, you're not married, but where do you think the line is drawn as it relates to supporting your spouse publicly? And this is kind of even piggybacking off of um, you know, thinking about Andrew Gillam and and and Jay, his wife, who was at Essence Fest, still, you know, supporting him in light of what hadn't come to the public's eye of him being arrested in Alabama.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'll say this. I'm I'm not like you just said, I'm not married. So I think it's a personal choice. Whatever you decide to do in your marriage with your spouse, if y'all talk about it, agree on it, then the line is wherever y'all needed to be. I don't have any, you know, any input on that. So I I it's a personal choice. If you decide to support your husband who was abusive, or your wife who was abusive, or your spouse who was abusive, then that's your choice. And I don't have uh, you know, a dog in that fight.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Well, the public's opinion still, of course, is gonna remain divided. And of course, we with anything and all of these stories, well, these two and three at this particular point, um, you just want to let the legal process play out. And we know it does take time um as it relates to certain things. So all the best to everybody. Um, who deserves it, as Kelly Rowland was saying.
SPEAKER_01How do they deserve?
SPEAKER_00And we'll we'll follow up on those pieces. So that that touches, oh my god, we did what uh that's Mississippi. Um we've done Florida. Now let's go on and pivot our ass on up to New York. Woo! If you never thought about air travel, I've never, you're a world traveler. Um, I'm playing catch up with you. And so are you? You know, I'm playing catch-up, but I've I've been on small planes, but never a seaplane.
SPEAKER_01You've been on large planes too.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. I said I've never been on the well, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I know, but you said you've been on small planes. I'm agreeing you've been on large planes too, because you went to South Africa, which acquires a wide body, which is a large plane.
SPEAKER_00We got a number one show in South Africa. Anyway, thank you for.
SPEAKER_01You've also been to Spain. I sure have.
SPEAKER_00Shout out to Amichi. Um and and Cal. Yeah. So this seaplane took an emergency landing in New York City in the East River. And, you know, we definitely want to shout out the pilot for doing that safely. And everyone on board, they did survive, right? And the emergency crews were able to respond. Now, Rufus, you know, this could have ended much differently. You know, have you ever had an emergency landing situation? I know they say do this, do this, put your head down.
SPEAKER_01I have not, and I hope I never do, but I have had a situation, well, two situations I can talk about. I was landing in Barcelona, Spain years ago, and the plane got struck by lightning two times. That was that was interesting. Okay. Uh, but they just kept right on flying. But planes are designed to take lightning strikes. Another thing that happened is this happened to me twice as well. Uh, one time, I don't remember where I was landing there, but they had to do a go-around. Uh I don't remember why. And then a few years ago, we were landing in Egypt in Cairo, and the plane did a go-around as well. But that doesn't mean that there was uh something wrong. Well, maybe it does. Maybe not necessarily, but that happened. Um, I've never had an emergency landing, and I hope and well, I don't pray, but I hope and hope and hope that it never happens because I I don't want to experience that.
SPEAKER_00Right, right. No fun in there for sure. Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_01Have you experienced an emergency landing?
SPEAKER_00You know, it wasn't an emergency landing, it was an actual go-around, and it was it was in ATL. Don't know where the hell I was going, but at some point in my life, I figured well, everything when you live in the South for the most part, depending on which city you connect in Atlanta. And so I just remember we were descending, and then all of a sudden it was a nighttime flight, too. So, you know, at that point you can't see anything. We zip right back up, right? Yep. And the pilot comes all jovial, but yet this gruntle over the the um the system and says, Wow, yeah, air traffic control cleared us to land, but there was already a plane on the runway. Oh, so we had to go back up. Just imagine we just wasted half a million dollars of fuel. That's the part where I got pissed off because you're talking about fuel. Motherfucker, you almost killed us. Well, you saved us, but you almost, you know, it was just you're talking about fuel as if it comes out of your check.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Do you remember coming back from Mexico that one time?
SPEAKER_00Oh.
SPEAKER_01When we had to divert?
SPEAKER_00You're right. Had a diversion. Were we in Mexico City or Arizona? Where were we?
SPEAKER_01We diverted to um Monterey, Mexico, which is in northern Mexico. Because we were coming from Cancun. And I guess it was storms here in Dallas, and they said, Oh, the storms are too bad we can't land, so we gotta go back to Mexico. And our I'll never forget you talking about Whitney Houston was on that plane because Wendy Houston had just died. This is what, 2009 or 2009? Show how long I've been knowing you, which is a long motherfucking time. But yeah, that was funny. Well, it wasn't funny, but you shouldn't tell me that story. It wasn't it, I mean, I you I tell the truth.
SPEAKER_00I have a very um is what people may say.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Um you have the imagination of a five-year-old.
SPEAKER_00Wait a minute. I don't think you should have a few.
SPEAKER_01It's not a it's not an insult. It's just your imagination is just it's just wow. W-I-O-Y.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I understand. Um, yeah. Okay. But that was my story, that was yours. Winnie Houston wasn't on the plane, you all. She wasn't there. Um well, federal investigators, of course, are gonna determine what caused an emergency. So, and while we're in New York, what has dominated? I woke up with this. This was Saturday, it was Friday night or either early Saturday morning. Um Jay-Z and Beyonce. This is our economy section, too.
SPEAKER_01What about the power couple? They back working, so they're they're in New York.
SPEAKER_00So I woke up Saturday morning, and I think either it was on Instagram or either it was on Twitter, and I just see Beyonce singing the Mary J. Blige's part to I can't even remember the song. Um, but yeah, Jay-Z is performing three nights at Yankee Stadium. He's doing a residency there. I was, you know, read that it was sold out, and this is celebrating his 30th anniversary um of his Reasonable Doubt album. Reasonable doubt. Reasonable album. Yeah, yeah. That's the one that's on vinyl with Target. Um, and he's also celebrating the 25th anniversary of the blueprint. Now, I remember the blueprint.
SPEAKER_01Also a good album.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, I remember the blueprint. And so Beyonce surprised fans by joining him on stage. And so while it was a Jay-Z concert, man, everybody saw Beyonce. She was the headliner, and somehow I I guess she's in it's not a uh hairstylist now because she cut his hair in the stadium. Yeah, she cut his head. I guess so.
SPEAKER_01We see but was there ever any doubt that she was gonna come out? I mean, like, duh. Of course she was gonna be there, of course she was gonna do a little number. Of course she was.
SPEAKER_00That's her husband, and I think she told him, you know, shout out to my husband, you all. Shout out to my husband.
SPEAKER_01She did it and gave him a kiss on the lips.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, she did. And so, you know, we think about these concerts and and tourism and restaurants, you think about the economic impact, but they're back working. And it's interesting now because we've heard of potential money woes, specifically with Jay-Z, and New York City wanting to open up their casino. But I think Nas is the one that got approved for the bid. But they were saying how he Jay-Z he mortgaged or took out $50 million against their LA home. Um, so it it's a lot. We think about money, you know, we hear that they don't even live in the United States anymore, um, that they're over in in London. And so it's just a lot with them. And I think even Blue Ivy was on stage too. So everybody's working, the whole family. Yeah, the whole family is working, the whole family. And and speaking of Beyoncé, I don't know if you saw this, but this shit just took me out. A Ugandan general wants Beyonce.
SPEAKER_01I heard about this. This shit is crazy as fuck. He said, I think he said something, gimme gimme Beyoncé or something like that. Some shit, some wild ass shit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, social media just couldn't believe this one. Um, but his name is Mahuzi Kadengaba. Um, and he publicly said, excuse me, to Jay-Z, give him Beyonce. And so those comments just quickly went viral. And so a lot of people are joking and debating. And so only Jay-Z and Beyonce can become an international conversation to a regard.
SPEAKER_01They're the new Barack and Michelle.
SPEAKER_00I guess so, right?
SPEAKER_01Or maybe the old one, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, they weren't at the dedication of the um the Obama um presidential library in Chicago, but Kelly was there, and I think the mother was there, Solange was there, everybody was there, and I shout out Erica said.
SPEAKER_01They was busy planning the concert.
SPEAKER_00You're right, I guess this shit in order. I guess.
SPEAKER_01You just said they're going back to work, they had to get their shit in order. Yeah, they got to be able to do that. You know, Ms. Beyoncé is a perfectionist, so it can't be no nothing going wrong. It's even for her segment.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, even for her segment, man.
SPEAKER_01Especially for her segment.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, even even for her segment. So, yeah, um, shout out to everybody that enjoyed themselves. Um Homegirl Danny, I saw her up there with a few of her friends, so she flew in for that. And so it looks like it was a good time. Looks like it was a good time. So absolutely. And and while we're on the the the nose, the carter. Well, Beyonce's nose carter, but I don't know. You watch Outlaws by TS Madison? Is it the Outlaws podcast? You listen to that.
SPEAKER_01Well, you can watch it. I've seen I've seen some episodes, but I'm I wouldn't say that I'm like a avid watcher, but I've seen about three or four episodes. And I watched it on YouTube. I typically I listen to podcasts, but I've watched that one.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Well, her her dad, he did do a recent episode. Um, T.S.
SPEAKER_01Madison's dad?
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, Beyonce. Oh, Matthew's. We keep it in the family today. Yeah. So he sat down with with Maddie on the Outlaws podcast, and pretty much he addressed where people were saying, Hey, you know, you're only wealthy because of Beyonce. And Matthew said, fuck that. You know, he and Tina, his then wife, you know, were already millionaires before Beyonce even became famous. And excuse me, he said multi-millionaires. I'm not sure. Not the multi-millionaires. And he said, you know, they they already had successful careers in business as well before that. So, Rufus, you know, why do you think people assume successful parents only become successful because of their children?
SPEAKER_01Because we didn't know them before their their kids were famous. We didn't know Matthew Nose before Beyonce and Destiny's child. So people just naturally assume that, oh, he worked at wherever he worked at him. And then then people have a misconception that if you work a job, then you're not making money. I'm sure he was an I think he was an executive in some company. Which executives make Zero? I don't remember. I know executives, some executives make, especially if you're a C-level executive, they make boatloads of money. So, but you know, people just people just always assume shit, and they may or may not have the right facts or information to make a correct assumption. So that's why we shouldn't assume shit.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, shout out to Matthew Knowles. Of course, he's trying to change the narrative, and he's pretty much laying out that entrepreneurship did exist in that household long before Destiny Child. So shout out to him. And and and speaking of ownership and money, Jermaine Dupree. I was like, did we talk about Jermaine Dupree? No, we've never talked about that before. Yeah. Jermaine Dupree. He's suing Sony. So maybe we talked about that off the air. Yeah, you and I talked about that.
SPEAKER_01I've heard about, yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah, I've heard of it recently.
SPEAKER_00He's filed an $18 million lawsuit against Sony, and that lawsuit centers around royalties and ownership rights. So um another reminder that intellectual power property, excuse me, um, is a uh a big business. And so, Rufus, we've talked about athletes protecting their money. Artists have to protect their catalogs too.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Um I feel like the music industry is fucked up because everybody is always suing somebody in the music industry over royalties or or masters or something. I'm like, what's going on in the music industry? I feel like it's it's just it's a lot of shit going on over there. So I hope he gets his money from Sony because they got it to give. So give it to him.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So yeah. And music catalogs, we know they increase in value. So I'm thinking future sold his for um a few tens of millions. Um he sold his, but I think Anita Baker bought hers back. Lil Wayne helped her with that to buy hers back. We know Taylor Swift either she re-recorded or she couldn't buy hers back. I think Ariana Grande has gone through something like that. But um, yeah, yeah, very interesting. So when you think about publishing rights, you know, they remain one of the biggest, the industry's biggest um assets.
SPEAKER_01And I think that's I'm sorry, writers and producers make more money than the artists typically until they start touring. So yeah, publishing is you know, it's not as much as as lucrative as it used to be in like the early 90s and 80s, but yeah, that's where the money is in in the music world, along with touring.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Thank you for that. And Rufus wants to give a shout out to Candy Burris, you know, because people say, Well, how did she make her money?
SPEAKER_01I don't. She wrote a lot of songs and she owns the songs. That's how she made her.
SPEAKER_00Her and Tamika. Yeah, I think they co-wrote those songs.
SPEAKER_01They sure did, along with many other songs from many other artists.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so shout out to them, shout out to Jermaine. I hope they give you that money in the grand scheme of things. And so let's head to Hollywood. Let's head to Hollywood, let's pivot. Let's pivot. Will and Jada.
SPEAKER_01Now Oh, where are we going now? I just watched a YouTube video on Jada tonight, and it was pretty interesting.
SPEAKER_00Oh shit. Now, according to a source who spoke with People Magazine, Jada Pinkett Smith has reportedly moved back in with Will Smith about two years ago. And they say she quietly did this. And so they pretty much have been rebuilding their relationship, and neither of them have publicly confirmed this. Um now, Rufus, why do people stay so invested in Will and Jada?
SPEAKER_01Um, I this is what I think. I think there are you know, I hate that you maybe you don't know this, but I hate the term power couple. But I think people, specifically black people, look up to Jada and Will as a power couple. And that's why, just like um they the the Americans look up to the royals as, you know, whatever. So I think it's kind of along those same lines. Uh me personally, I don't give a fuck what Will and Jada do in their personal lives, to be honest, because it has nothing to do with me. But I think I think uh black people look up to them as a power couple, and they aspire to be like that because they've been together for like 30 some years. Yeah, and you know, I I for one don't think we need to know everything that's going on in their personal life. I don't know why this is in the news. Like she moved back with her husband, great, I don't care. Good for them, though. I think it uh, you know, I think it their people aspire to be like them, which is why I think they so embarrassing in them.
SPEAKER_00And fuck whoever went to people. Like, you can't be my friend and be running your ass to Okay, I'm gonna be like Beyonce.
SPEAKER_01Y'all better sign an NDA.
SPEAKER_00You can't be my friend unless you sign this goddamn NDA.
SPEAKER_01We never found out who who bit Beyonce on the face or whatever the fuck it was. We just we still don't know.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that was the one that supposedly uh Denzel Washington, allegedly Denzel Washington's mistress. Sonalytham, right? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I didn't know that was Denzel Washington's message.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes, allegedly that is his mistress, and that's why you've never seen her married or publicly dating anybody.
SPEAKER_01How long she's been his mistress for I don't know, she in her 50s now, he in his 70s. Allegedly. I don't know how old he is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00That's interesting. Will and Jada, if that's true, we know that they've chosen privacy over publicity. And so, you know, not every relationship has to play out publicly. And so yeah, relationship.
SPEAKER_01Between two or whoever's in a relationship, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_00Let's get up out of Hollywood. Let's head on back to our economy stories now. This involves Tang now, Mario, and Elec Eric Billinger. And if you think about it, you know, I always say, you know, I remember listening to this blog, and I think I actually have a book over there that talks about uh how to keep a black man working. It's on one of my bookshelves over there.
SPEAKER_01Who wrote that shit? Sister.
SPEAKER_00It's a black lady, but she was semi-homophobic. So, but I'm gonna find you will be some black lady, how to keep a black man. I think I watched one of her lectures on YouTube, but I actually bought the book. Um, I'll dig it up, I'll go through my bookshelf. It's over there. I know it's over there. Um, but anyway, um, you know, Chris Brown and Usher are on tour, and then that just Detroit stop, um, you know, that concert caught people's attention because Tank Mario and Elick Benager were singing background vocals. Yeah, I mean, had the whole outfits on. They were all set. And so, you know, while they're successful in their own rights, you know, I respect that. You know.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I love it too. I I think it's um, I think it's dope. Like, I I like Tank. I like I watch his podcast and I just like his personality and I like Mario as an artist as well. Eric Bellinger, I know some of his songs, he's pretty dope too. But I I think that's amazing. Like the fact that you are uh established artist on your own and you can still go seeing the background with somebody else, that just goes that you know that's that's that's pretty dope to me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So sometimes you're the headliner and sometimes you're cashing in another check.
SPEAKER_01So right, and they might be doing it for free. Who knows?
SPEAKER_00I'm a ride with them getting paid because they don't benefit being in the background. And I think Tank was even an opener at one of the shows. But you would I I don't think they're doing it for free. Now, I don't know. You're a big, big Duran Bernard fan. Does he work for Erica Baidu for free?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. He's never said that. That ain't my business, so I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01But like I'm sure if it's just a one-time thing, if you were an RB artist, I would sing background for you for free. Just like one time. I wouldn't be no uh I wouldn't be on there consistently, but if I'll just come saying one show up in wherever, whatever city I'm about to do.
SPEAKER_00That's because you're kind, but we know this is fucking money in town. They ass got booked. That was it was genius. Shout out to them for being friends, and it's nothing wrong with multiple streams of income. And you know, talent creates opportunity.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you should have multiple streams of income.
SPEAKER_00Yep. Shout out to them. It's no ego, you know, it's just business.
SPEAKER_01Now, the folks want to know if TJT gonna ever gonna go TGT gonna ever get back together.
SPEAKER_00Sing one of their songs was it genuine high on Good Morning America or the Today Show. What? I don't know. Remember, yeah, they got mad at him.
SPEAKER_01He was singing. I don't know anything about this. This is all alleged, though.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it was something was happening. Uh Tank was singing good. Tyrese was singing good, but genuine, so who was playing the piano? It was not good.
SPEAKER_01Probably Tank Tank plays the piano. Genuine is, in my opinion, he ain't really that much of a singer anyway. I love his music, but to be honest, he likes a candy. I love candy, but the girl can't say all right.
SPEAKER_00Okay, let's give we got a follow-up story, you know. Um, if you probably remember, do y'all remember the rat birth control story? You remember that, Rufus?
SPEAKER_01Uh, we talked about it on here, I think. All right, like one of our first episodes, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it sure was. So this was months ago, and one thing I do enjoy about our show um is that we we follow up. You know, we just don't stick and throw it out there. We we follow up with it now. Early reports suggested that it's actually working, and so those DC residents, they have seen a reduction in rolling activity. And so this is just using science and traditional um extermination methods. So, you know, Rufus, this might be the future of pest control.
SPEAKER_01Well, DC's up there by you, so I hope it works out for the best. I hope there are no side effects.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, I I passed over a smash rat in the street on my commute back home this morning from the gym. So this could be, you know, a model for other cities, and we'll continue watching the long-term results.
SPEAKER_01And we do have the universe go get them one way or the other, huh?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, that motherfucker was smashed. And so, one final follow-up uh before we wrap up today. Whoo! I I struggle with this word, and I know I struggled almost every episode that we mentioned it. Is it boobification? I think that's the word, right?
SPEAKER_01That's is that a real word?
SPEAKER_00I I don't know. It's a fetish, right? Okay. Isn't it the story boobification?
SPEAKER_01I don't know where we're going, but I'm I'm still.
SPEAKER_00We're talking about Christy Norm. So reports have indicated that Christy Norm is reportedly divorcing her husband following the recent controversy of him putting them fake titties on his chest. Um and we'll just continue watching for um official confirmation and and and you know, public scandals extend beyond politics. So, Rufus, you know, families often feel the impact just as much um as public officials. And, you know, we started the show with this, but you know what? With this bitch, you get no sympathy, bitch. You get no sympathy, you get no sympathy.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_00Yep. And we'll we'll follow up if there are any verified um details. Let's not follow it. We can drag this bitch. I know our South Africa um uh supporters, you know, were like, what the hell y'all got going on over there? So they appreciate a good dragon, and we we appreciate you all too. One day we'll make it to do an in-person show in Cape Town.
SPEAKER_01Um, we'll get there at this at the city winery.
SPEAKER_00You know what? They don't have those there. But we we're gonna find a nice spot there.
SPEAKER_01We'll not I know a place. I know a place. They got good food, too.
SPEAKER_00In Cape Town. Is this a blue song? All right, okay. That's our show today, everybody. See you later, Mr. Rufus.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Have a good day. Allergy.