Cody's Birthday: Demo Fails, Door Drills & Bid-Day Bedlam

Cody and Matthew reminisce about an all-you-can-eat birthday dinner, gripe about bidding chaos, and unpack what really happens behind the safety announcements — from safety demo auditions (Matt got the gig, Cody got the Super Bowl commercial!) to the realities of ditching. Listen to a candid, funny look at the human side of flight attendants keeping calm while everything else unravels.

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Welcome aboard. I'm Matthew. And I'm Cody. This is Breaking Sterile. A show about flight attendance at a major American international airline where professionalism is the baseline. And humanity is what actually gets us through the day.

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Okay.

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And this show is about the part of the job that lives just outside the announcements. The part where you're exhausted, proud, frustrated, grateful. Sometimes all on the same leg. Sterile exists just for safety. And this show exists for everything else.

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Break sterile break, pony.

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Hey. I'm in Denver. I know it's kind of nice outside. You're in a bad mood. You are in a bad mood. I'm just frustrated because of bidding. But it's fine. I'll find it. Why don't you explain to everybody why you're frustrated? No, I can't. Because then the company would be mad at you. Let's just say that when we bid every month, it is very challenging because we get our schedules and then we have this one day of the month where you can change Hunger Games. Hunger Games. It's very Hunger Games. Yeah. But then you know that it's all going to change anyway again, anyway. I know. I'm just it just seems very unfair because it seems like there's people who have ways of getting into those trips that you want way quicker than Yeah, I don't understand it. I've now I have had situations where I've been able to get the things I want, and I guess I've just been really lucky. Yeah, I don't I don't understand. Because yeah, I just don't, I don't, I don't get it. I don't understand, but it doesn't matter because I will fix it. I change my schedule every month. See, everybody, I told you he was mad. I will be totally fine. I took Cody out for his birthday. Oh yeah. My birthday's on Monday. Well, I mean, this I don't even know when this is gonna air, but it's on some sort of Monday during this month. Yes. And uh the we where did we go? Coche cacao? Fogo de Shao. Fogo de Shao. And for those of you who don't know, it's a Brazilian restaurant. Brazilian Steakhouse. Brazilian Steakhouse. And they have an all-you-can-eat option, which is very dangerous. And the salad bar is amazing. And then they come around with all the meats. And they never stop. And they never stop with all the meats. And I I had to stop eating because I'm still on my GLP one. So I had I know. I told him to pace himself. Did he no? I did pace myself. I was eating like a mouse. Your salad plate was full every single time. Because the salad was so good. I feel like it was the salad bar was made for me. Anyway. So, but then once the meat sweat started happening, I I thought, okay, man, maybe this is it's time for this to stop. But our waiter was very nice. Yes. And I said he should be a flight attendant at our airline. No, because then he would he would be miserable. Why? He's not miserable at our because he's making more money than I make in a three-day trip. He's making in one night. Right, but you get to go to glamorous Sioux Falls and Fargo. And and in the middle where Walmart is. Bentonville, Arkansas. Bentonville, yeah. He doesn't. But he can yes, but he can make enough money to go on a real vacation. Well, you will be able to soon. Hopefully. Hopefully. Anyways. We're not gonna we're not gonna get into that. We're not gonna get into it. We're not gonna we've to you know, we don't like to talk about these things. We like to stay positive here at Breaking Sterile. Yes, we do. Which is at breakingsterile.podcast we don't we don't have to. We don't have a we like our website. Breaking sterile podcast on Instagram. Yes. And then breaking sterile um on all of the different platforms. And you can reach us through there through Instagram. And we do have an email and I forget what it is. I think it's breaking sterile at breakingsterile.com. No. No. Remember? Because because there's a whole issue with the with the website. We need someone to help us. Yeah. I'm I'm asking someone to help figure it all out for us. Cuff, cuff, hawker. Who? Our friend Hawker. Oh Hawker. You have not come through for us. So it's funny because these microphones are on little like channel sticks. No, no, they're they're pens. Yes. It feels like like like we're Drew Carey and Bob Barker because because it's a microphone on the on the side. Are you the Drew Carey and I'm the Bob Barker? Because you're older. Yeah. Dude, Bob Barker was tall. He was tall. Drew Carey is not tall. Do you want a fun fact? Yeah. I saved Drew Carey's dog once. Oh, because you used to be neighbors with him. Yes. Yeah, yeah. And his dog, I didn't know it was his dog at the time, was running around our neighborhood. And so I got the dog and I had my my dog with us. And I was walking with my friend Monica. Hey Monica. Different Monica. Oh, just kidding. Still hey Monica. But um on the street, and we found this dog. And then I called the number, and the number was Drew Carey's house. Because I could tell it was his and I couldn't get him. And I wanted to go home and I didn't want to have this dog, you know, to do. So what did I I did something very Hollywood. I called his agent. Well, but I mean, you have some connections though. Yeah. And I said, I have Drew Carey's dog. I need you to call him. Because I can't get through to him and I can't hold on to the dog. So and there they were like, what's happening right now? You know, but it all worked out. And to Drew Carey's credit, he gave me a free dinner at anywhere I wanted to go. So we went to Steakhouse, fun oddly enough, since we're on the meat topic. Yeah. And then last night, Matt and I went to um a Denver staple. It's called Bojo's. Um, if you're in Denver, you know all about Bojo's. It's delicious. Um the crust is amazing, and then they give you a big thing of honey, and then you drizzle the honey on the crust, and then you eat the crust, and it is delicious. Did Matt do that? No, he did not. Because that's what normal people do. No one puts the honey on it. Bojo's you don't do that. But honey is the honey wasn't even that good. Yes, it was delicious. Because it it I don't it didn't work for me. Wow, it was delicious. Okay. And we told we bought a big pizza saying that we were that we weren't gonna eat it all. Eat it all and take it back to your place. Ate every ounce of it. And it was pepperoni, so now I woke up with like more meat sweats. No, and heartburn. And oh, Cody, I had CQ. Oh yeah, you sure did. Which for those who don't know is continuing qualifications. So at our company, we have to do it every certain amount of months or years. Every 18. Every 18 months, and then um you go through all the security stuff and how to open and close the doors, and people get very stressed out about it, but I've I chose not to be stressed. Cody's very chill about these things, which is very shocking. I know. So I chose not to be stressed about it, and I passed right away. And I was just, you just it was just a long day, but it was nice because I got to see people that I knew and other flight attendants that I've worked with, and um, you know, with such a big flight attendant population, like it's rare that you get to see people more than once. And here I was in in Denver seeing. Well, and it's funny too because I was telling Matt the other day before he went to recurrent, I said, I said, you know, back in the day when I used to have to do door drills, I used to scream scream our commands for door drills, and now I just go there and I'm just like I just talk them because we've got like 13 doors that we have to do, and I'm not I'm not doing all that. I'm not screaming 13 times. Yeah. Well, the funny thing is you get tested on the simulator, and last time I did it, I failed the initial one because it was on a 767. Oh yeah, and I've only flown that plane once, and this time it was on a 737, and I was like, I got this. So I passed, and she said, I could tell you practiced. I was like, I did, and I watched all the videos too. But what's also interesting, and I don't think people nobody will really care about this except for flight attendants, but they did change some of the commands, and you say they didn't since we were in training, but I know that they changed one of the commands. No, they didn't. What she said the command was is the same exact command that's always been. No, yes, it has. Cody, the instructor was like, I could tell what class you were in by the command that you were trying to do. Unless it was the same command as my previous airline, which is totally possible. Either way, because ours used to be leg body leg. Right, that's not there. No, it's never been there. Oh, you mean at Frontier? Yeah. Oh, this was step out of the window or something. We didn't do that, we never said that. I must we must have said that out of Velo. And I have Compass ex commands somewhere in my hand head as well. The main point is I will get you off the plane in under 90 seconds. Believe me. Oh, and then we had you out the window. We had you had to do it out the plane. Yeah. And I I just like took the bag and threw it away. And they look, they looked at me. I was like, no, you're not taking it. I've been kind of going over things in my head about like things that kind of just irritate me in the plane. Oh my god, there's like so many. Well, when you ever okay, whenever you call me, you're like constantly irritated after a trip. I don't know how you keep it together because I think you'd probably are just really nice on the plane, and then you just clock things and you store it in a bucket in your head.

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Yep.

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And then when you get off the plane, you just want to explode. And I call you because you're the one to. Because then you go, we're talking, and what whatever says something, your response is right. Uh huh. Right. Right. Uh-huh. Right. Well, that it's like good. I'm a good therapist. Yeah. Well, I know these things. Well, it's not that it's and it's not that I'm that I'm that I'm frustrated on the plane. It's just that like people do stupid things on the plane all the time. All the time. And I'm just like, what are you doing? I feel like that's like what I just don't understand. No, but that's what society has led us to, is that I feel like maybe the airplane is where stupid stuff happens now. Oh, 100%. Right. And so we're just the observers of that stupidity. Stupidity. Right. And the key to the success of the job is to not get triggered by it. I don't. No, you just call me afterwards. Well, no, I don't get triggered in the plane. No, you don't get triggered in the moment. Well, I'm uh that but no, you do we all get triggered in the moment. This the key to the success of it is if you're really bothered by it is to step away, go into the bathroom and cry. Or, you know, or laugh. I'm not gonna cry. But my the success, the success of me now as a flight attendant, rather whereas before when I was a flight attendant frontier, uh-huh, is I don't care. Right. When I was at Frontier, everything everything mattered. Everything mattered, everything still matters. Yeah. But now I just look at them with my subtitles and I and they kind of get it, and they they either stop or whatever. And I and but you know why and I also have a good time with it now. Yes, but also I think to the credit of our company, they do give us recovery tools for customers. So with in a way, in a way that Avello and Compass never had. Like I never had the ability to make things better for somebody who's having a moment, no matter how stupid that moment is. I can be like, hey, even if it's even if I'm not being genuine, I could put it, I can I'm gonna be like, oh my God, I totally understand. That's so awful that the reading light isn't working on your day flight. On your day flight, let me give you 5,000 points. Yeah, let me give you 5,000 points for your next trip or$25 certificate. You know, like that's what's so good about flying for who we work for, because we you can just make all that stuff go away, and it doesn't matter because the point is just to get them back on the plane to be customers. Sure. Whenever I do that and the person is just being kind of a poopy berry. Notice how we used number two, different number two. I said poopy berry and you said dingleberry. Or maybe I said poopy head and you said okay. So whenever someone's being a dingleberry, like I'll go up to them and I'll be like if they're if if it's something that warrants some kind of compensation, I'll I'll go up to them and and I'll be like, this is the least I could do for you. Oh here's a$15 credit to your flight. This is the least I can do for I I do apologize. This is the least I can do for you. Right. And I say it in a way that they go, thank you so much. Right. I'm like, you're so welcome. I'm usually I'm more of a oh my god, I totally understand. It it yes, you're right. It is so frustrating. I totally yes, uh-huh. I do a lot of uh which is which is which is the customer version of right. Right. But you know, you make it go away. And then and I have no problem but getting back to like what annoys you, what does like what annoys you that so if I'm working on the plane, right? Which I do all the day, and I'm walking to the galley and all of the little quarter turns, little things that keep everything in their place with carts are open. Yes. And it's in a position where like the plane typically flies nose up, right? Right. So there's a little bit of an angle. Yeah. Well, all of those things that are on the uh the high side of the plane, oh, in the event of an of turbulence or whatever, those are gonna come falling out. So that annoys you. Oh annoys the crap out of me when I come to the galley and like everything is open. Oh, because somebody didn't close them. Right. And usually it's the person who's working the galley, so you know who did it. Yeah, or it's someone who's who's like, like I just did a long haul flight and a long haul international flight, and I came back from and I came back from my break, yes, and all of them were open. And I was like, I looked at the flights and I was like, girl, what is going up on with this? And she's like, What? And I was like, I I can't, never mind. Just yeah, go go to sleep. I can't even handle your well that I mean that's the thing, is like I you know, you wouldn't think this. I mean, my husband will say, This is not true about me, but I I do like everything in its place. Shocking. Right. Have you seen your office? Well, my office is a little messy. No, your office has like everything. Well, and I'm the same. All the mess is in the same questions. No, everything is like very like there's there's nothing askew, it's all like very like right angle-ish. Yeah, I'm very right angle-ish. Yeah, same. I am mine too, I'm the same way. That's probably, you know, because we're gay. Yeah, probably. I don't know. And Steve is very Virgoian, so he likes everything in its proper place, but also out of sight, which drives me insane because then I can't find the can opener. Okay, that that makes more sense now to me whenever I come over to your place. I'm just like, what is it? Why is he putting it away? Yeah. Yes, it's very complicated. It's a very kind, you know. I don't know. Like, I'm a Leo, he's a Virgo. I don't know if that's supposed to technically work, but you're a Leo? Yes. How we get along so well. Right. I'm a Leo with Virgo rising. Oh yeah. I'm a Taurus with I don't know rising. That's probably why we get along so well. I don't know what I'm talking about, but Tauruses get along with Leos really well. Oh, that's cute. What else bothers you? Um when people don't close the lavatory door. Oh that is like my thing is is that is like so you had to close it, like actually close it when you went in there. Yes. What is the difference when you walk out of it? Nothing. Nothing. Or like or like the the the lavatory doors that that are that are sliders, you know, or shoulders, you know. Yes. People will like open it, they'll fold it open, they'll open it and then they'll leave it open when they leave. Yes. Why? Close the damn bathroom door. I know. And on our airline, in our first class, certain first class cabins, we have sprays. Like they may not be, there's like facial sprays or clothing, but you could spray to mask what what you're doing in there. Like you could theoretically, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. Like on a Hawaii flights, they have like sprays in there. That's just facial spray. I know, but that smells. No, there's another one in there, isn't there? Like for the coat, like for your wrinkled thing. Yeah, and that has a scent to it. Just spray it down a little bit. Okay, that's a good one. Um, what else? Since we're on a I'm just working through your issues right now. The episode, the Cody episode. Yeah. Because I last episode was all about me. It was. There was a lot of you in that last episode. I'm so sorry, everybody. I needed to get stuff out. Um also people that walk on the plane. I we've talked about this uh about this before. People walk on the plane like, oh, can I get a water for for a pill? Why? Yeah. We've already we've gone over that. It happens every time. Every time. I'm just like, yep. I have I have friends who if they're in the back alley, they'll put cups out with water that's and the sign that says pill water. I have to say that I really appreciate it, especially on like one of our bigger on our bigger plans when the back alley labels everything, because I'm so used to not being labeled and being like, hey, where's the water bottles or where's the so-and-so? But when they take out post-its and are labeling it all, I really I think that's so good so helpful. Because I'm still going back, going, where's the water? And it's he and someone points like right over there, it says water, you know. And I'm like, oh, I'm an idiot. You know, I'm so used to asking, I don't even look at that. They see, I don't use post-its. I have a chalk pen that I'll write on the everything with. Right. And then it wipes itself off. Yeah. Yeah. I wipe it off. Oh, that's good. Yeah. I once asked somebody, or we were back there and somebody had the chalk pen and I didn't know it was a chalk pen. So I was like, who would write on the metal containers? That's so rude. And then, you know, just like they're like, uh, that's okay. I did that. I I was in a Hawaii, I I went to Hawaii and I wrote on the chalk, I wrote on the cart with the chocolate, and I forgot to wipe it off next to the cart save carts again. I was like, I was like, these are the wrong carts. I didn't wipe it off. Right. Yeah. Um, what else irritates me? Just stupidity, just people's stupidity. I know. It's not so much, I mean, stupidity runs rampant in the aviation industry, both both employee-wise and customer-wise. But it's also the lack of like people understanding like they can't observe the world around them. They have no self-awareness. Yes, thank you. And it's just like this is going on. You're just like, but but what like what's going on? Like if there's a medical and they ask for a snack box. Right. I I I'm busy right now. Right. Like, I don't have time to hit to give you a snack box. Which was my scenario. Right. You know, and then or the safety demo's playing and Matt's on the on the demo. Oh, we haven't talked about that on this and on this. And people are are getting up, like have have having these restaurants, or or they're in the overhead vents. Sit down, right? Watch the stupid video. Are we gonna talk about that now since you've no, because this is about me.

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Okay.

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But I will say that Matt and I did audition for the demo together. Not together, but like for the same demo, and Matt got it and I didn't, which I fully understand because when I had my audition for with the director, I was it was so bad. Oh. So should we just get into that just briefly? Because I want to talk about it on another podcast because the new demo is gonna come out soon, and I'm gonna be in an emotional state of sadness. So basically You said that you hate that. I don't hate. I mean, I secretly love it. I just here's the thing. So I auditioned for the safety demo at our airline three years ago. We did, yes. Yes, and I got it. So I'm one of four flight attendants who speaks in the video, and I think I have the most script. You do, you're like the main character, right? And I've lost 50 pounds since doing that. Uh because I looked at it and I was like, who's that fat, pudgy person doing it? I was really and you're a different color. Um I I'm in different color. Yeah, you're tan in that. You're not tan anymore. Oh, that's probably the makeup and hair. And they gave me more hair, and they gave me and they made me look not older, but I have very gray hair in that. They grade it a lot. I have gray hair now, but I mean, not in the way that they grayed it there. And uh it was a really great experience to do it, and I'm really proud of it. And I know that some people like the video and some people don't like the video, whatever. But at the end of the day, it was very um affirming to get the the video because I had such terrible experiences at my last two airlines, and I felt like I was finally in a place that I loved and I felt like this it was just a sign that everything was going to be okay. And so, and it was a good merger of my previous life and this life. And even my sister said, if you don't get this, what's the point of your life? So Thanks, Julia. Anyway, um, so g you know, so it is on all the time and I try not to point it out to people like, oh, that's me, you know. Except when somebody says, Oh, I've met you before. Oh no. Now when when when when when do you make it a point to make sure that people know that you were in the demo? When I'm out and about? No. No. On the Hawaii flights, whenever you're purser. And you do the Oh, yes, only on the Lahue because that's the flight that has the screen. Because we because that trip is the um 7.5, and um I actually do the halfway to Hawaii if I'm purser on that. And one of my um tiebreaker questions is out of the flight attendants on the aircraft, who was the flight attendant who was in the safety video? And most people don't get it. Which then, you know, makes me sad. But you know, I like to think it's because I look different and cuter. Well, it's funny. So you so we both auditioned for that demo, and you got it and I didn't, which was fine. But then I got a call to go do a commercial. You did. And the commercial was a lot of fun, and one of the other girls from our class was also in that commercial. Yes. It was a very good year for our class. Yes. And also that commercial played at still plays, and it was on the Super Bowl both times. It was on it's been Super Bowl, it's been it's been in the World Series, the NBA Finals, College, College, um, M CAA Finals. Yeah, it plays all the time. I was at I was at a place here in Denver one night with me and a bunch of friends, and a commercial came out and I didn't even think twice in the commercial. And my friend goes, Oh my god, you just have the TV! And I was like, Oh yeah. Do you want to do wanna do you want an autograph? Yeah. Um, I just got a text message from crew scheduling. Oh no, what? Let's see what it says. Your planes too late. Uh text one to acknowledge your new departure time. Thanks. Hold on, hold on. I'll I'll look and see what it is real quick. Standby, folks. Oh no, does that can you look at my schedule? I'm looking. Standby. See, this is also in happening in real time. Of course, because I had plans. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. See, I got a notification that my trip was changed. Tonight. Before we talk about the trip change. Anyway, I just want to say that I was very grateful to do the video. Oh, 100%. And I had a great time. Um I do like when people recognize me. I will admit that. But I I I also want to say that when it first came out, uh huh, you had family members that were like, Did I just see you on the on the demo?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Or or I or I or uh you had friends that were that were like, I could have sworn I just saw someone that that looks just like you playing on on the on the demo on the Star Line. Oh it's okay. Yes. I but I I will say that I do enjoy hearing my my best friend on the on the demo every day. Cause there's days that that we don't talk 38 times a day. Right. And so this that's that that gives me that that makes it a little bit better. Right. I got it makes me feel but I also do know the demo now. So like whenever you're saying it, I I will say it just like your voice. Oh. And I'm just like um, anyways, back back to things that that irritate me. That that irritates me. Scheduling changes. But that you guys say told you now. Yes. Rather than when when you get to the airport, and they're like, your flight's delayed two hours. And you're just like, great. Uh huh. So glad I'm sitting here for two hours. It's only delayed like an hour. Well, I know. I'm just saying, but like I mean, I can now I don't have to stress. It's not that I was stressed all day of all I've been doing is sitting here all day. I know. You know, I do know. Okay. But that's Cody's way of saying, please get out of my apartment. The things that I get annoyed with other flight attendants is that we're all in this together. Yeah. And so just because you're in a certain cabin, yes, you're dealing with that cabin and all that stuff. But it's just nice for everybody to check in with each other and make sure everybody's good. And then if you need to take that break, you take that break. It does bother me. I can't help it. It's just my we said we were gonna talk about work ethic. I think it's my work ethic. Like that, I just if somebody needed something done and I felt like I was done, I would go get it done for them. Right. I don't think that's every what everybody does. No, and I also think, and I think we've touched on this on a previous podcast, is that work ethic from our generations to the current workforce generation, to the newer workforce generation, yeah, is completely different. Very different. There is a dramatic difference between maybe every generation says that Gen X and the millennial, elder millennial, Xennial people like myself, versus the ones after you can see. I just flew someone that told me that that I asked them about something and they went, I don't know what that is, and I asked them what what year they were born, and they said 2002. And I went, what? Well, imagine if you started flying here in 1970 and you're asking that question to new hires. You must imagine if you're flying, yeah, if you started here in 1967. Right. I understand why they get annoyed by people like me because even I'm young to them. Yeah, you are. Yeah. The constellation. The caravel. Oh god, the constellation. I can't even imagine that. Well, it's funny. Um, speaking of old planes, um, whenever you go to, I mean, this is they don't have them anymore, but whenever you go to um Anchorage, yeah. So when I was younger in the early 2000s, uh Revolution Airways used to fly Electra 118s, which were these old, like they still fly them. No, they don't. Um is not around anymore. It doesn't? No. Oh. Um there's these these, I mean, they were old planes. Yeah. And they were old four-prop drivers, and like you'd hear them take off and you would hear them for miles because they're so loud. Could you imagine like flying Eastern used to use those for their shuttles out of LaGuardia into DC and they would like like they just get just just barely get over the the the the tops of the buildings. No, and then um Everett's air cargo flies old DC three, uh DC sixes. Still? Still, still, yeah. I mean, I mean, they're they're some old planes, and you see some pretty interesting planes up there, because I mean, yeah, you know, they're flying to these remote places that have gravel dirt, gravel dirt. Well, the thing is, is the planes are probably like proven and used to it, you know. They're machines, they don't make those machines like that anymore. No, they don't. They're made up tissue note, yeah. Like sandpaper. Yeah. Well, everything's 3D printed. It's like you're you're like sitting in a 3D printed seat, you know, getting a 3D printed cup, you know, 3D printed earbuds. Yeah. Have you have you flown on Southwest recently? Yes. Have you they're not serving plastic anymore, are they? No, they do the paper. The paper, right? Yeah. So most airlines are going into that now. And I think our we're trying to get there. We are? Yeah. Oh. Because that's um, I went to when I was at my last airline, I was um manager or director of catering or whatever they whatever they called it. Um, and I went to um an in-flight services convention. And thrilling. It was great because they had all they had all the food there. Oh all the samples, candy, drinks, food. It was great. But it doesn't look like that on the plane. What? The food that they're presenting at the Well, no, I know that. I know that. Well, I mean it I mean, compared to the pictures and the and the menus that we see on all the planes on all the different airlines, right? Versus what you actually get on your on your oh, so it was for not just for RL and it was for everybody. It was for everyone. Oh fun. Yeah. But but um one of the the big pushes for all the carriers at that time were was the was getting rid of single-use plastics. Yes. Which is, you know, cups and things like that. We have single-use prospects. Lots of them. I know. I think we single-handedly keep um the petroleum business in business. Well that no, the the shrink wrap business in business. Oh because we use so much. We do. It's ridiculous. Yeah, it is a lot. But yeah, so you mean shrink wrap around like the cups, like no, like the food. Oh, well, it kind of has to, don't you think? No, there's ways to get rid of it. Well, they just well, the food, well, the the tr the food comes with the trays on top, the metal trays covering it. Not always. Oh, the salads are covered in shrink crops. Sometimes the desserts and some sometimes the food is like that. Like yeah, and it's just but just like do you think like Europe has different do you notice when you're flying internationally, because you do it way more than I do, Cody? That when you go to Narita, do they do it differently on the way back? Nope. Oh, okay. They utilize their resources better, right? So they're not using 37 pounds of shrink of saran wrap when it only needs two. Also, I I tend to like what comes out of Mexico. Oh, their food. Their food is so so good. But the desserts are no bueno. No. But the fruit is really good. Fruit's delicious. Always good. And they're the chicken, it has actual grummars on it. And shout out to the cleaners at every Mexican airport because they spotlessly clean our planes. Right. Every plane. When but but what is it, Frontier? Man, they were like they were great. I feel like we have layovers or stopovers in Mexico just so that they can clean the plane. Because I don't know how they do it differently than what everybody does it in the state, how they do it in the state. They don't use a vacuum cleaner. They don't? No, they use a uh a cloth mop. Oh, and so they're like cloth mopping the floors. Oh, bringing even the carpet floors. Oh, yeah, and that makes it cleaner somehow? Well, yeah, because they're able to get more off. I mean, those we've talked about it before, but those floors have absorbed stuff. Please again wear something on your feet. So I just came back from Munich and people in first class don't realize that the lavatory, even though we clean them consistently, because it's a 10-hour flight, yeah. The water in there is still not water. Correct. It is pee pee juice. It's pee pee. I walked in there the other day like uh after I got a break and I was and I was like, what is on the floor? And it's just like it just happened to be right where the sink was. So I'm sure people are like like are dripping their hands. Yes. But you don't know that that's what it is. No, you shouldn't do that anyway. No, like where if the airline that you're flying provides sandals, where the sandals are the sandals. If so if not just wear your stupid shoes. Yes. We were talking about this last night at dinner about how you know everyone part of our job is to is to help um in the event of an emergency landing, right?

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But also included in that is when we have to ditch into the ocean or the or or a body of water. Correct. And it's so funny to me because everyone thinks that it's gonna be like the miracle on the Hudson, where the plane landed perfectly in the ocean or the water, and everyone gets out and it's fine, and everyone gets on a little boat, and they ferry over to the over to the to the land and it's fine. Yeah. And then in reality, if you ever watch you know, air disasters, there's a there's an there's an Egypt air crash, and that's that's reality. Because because you're landing in an ocean that's not calm. Right. You know, and it's funny because everyone the five cents who have we have fun with who like we've when we've talked about ditching, there's other ones like, oh, like it's not it's not a big deal. And I'm like, no, it's a big deal. Oh yeah. Like you're not like this isn't you're only gonna have one arm to use, you realize that. Well while defending yourself against the great white shark that's trying to eat your leg. Yeah, and it's just it's just funny to me that that that I mean, even passengers think that, oh, it's just it's gonna be just fine. Well, because the car looks so calm. Right. And it's gonna, I mean, it it will be as fine as it can be. But just know that I'm pooping my pants if that's ever happening. If the captain ever calls me and tells me, hey, I have um uh information about what about an emergency landing, and he uses the word ditching, I'm gonna be on the microphone on the phone to him going, Are you fucking kidding me? Yes, pardon my language, but I was like, I'm just like and you have 35 minutes to prepare, do we? Do we? Right, right. I guess I'm gonna move that person out of the emergency exit now, you know. I'm gonna go sit there. Just kidding, I would do that. No. We're very well trained and very well. That's that's what that's what multiple decades in this industry will do to you. Yes, be cynical about everything. Be cynical and have a good time and know that you know, we talk about these things in a way that that is funny and is kind of it can sound a little like we're kind of discarding it, discounting it, but in reality we're not. No, we're not because it's always on our minds. It is always on my mind. Right now, you know, whenever I take off out of out of Hawaii, right, you take off off the runway and you're immediately of the ocean. But you're trained, you're trained to think like that. Like we're told we're told, you know, to that to be prepared for anything. So you're just prepared for anything, and that's part of the job. And we do take that very seriously, but you also have to have a sense of humor about things because if you didn't have a sense of humor about things, you would never be able to do the job. Right. And also, like in being having a having a a state of mind where you're always kind of prepared for stuff, whatever, yeah, I feel has made me more comforting to the passenger. Yes, of course. Because I I don't have crazy eyes, like, oh my god, you know, and I'm not like I'm not stressed out. No, I might be stressed out, but I'm not showing it externally because I don't want you to be stressed out. Right. Because if you're stressed out because of me, that's not gonna solve any problems. If I'm calm, as calm as I can be, and I'm trying to keep you calm because I'm like, it's totally fine. This happens all the time. Don't worry about it. It's no, it's not a big deal. It's it we're it's okay. Like everybody's watching us. Yes. You have to have that that air of calmness to you. Yes, don't. Yeah. Your chapter's gonna be screwed. Right. You have to be professional the whole time. Right. With a sense of humor. Even when you're not. Even when you're not. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, that was a good podcast. Yeah, we did a good job. Yeah. Thank you for letting me stay in your apartment when I'm waiting for a trip. Now I'm waiting longer. Till next time, Cody. Till next time.