Episode 6 Behind The Buckles w/ Jake Stanley

This week on Behind the Buckles, we’re catching up with Jake Stanley for a rodeo conversation full of stories, laughs, and a few good nuggets of cowboy wisdom. From the grind of team roping to the kind of moments that only happen in the rodeo world. 
We talk about the highs, the hiccups, the hard work, and the funny stuff that comes with life in the roping pen. Jake also shares a few lessons from the road, the arena, and about raising his family & what it is like transitioning from the cowboy to the driver for his barrel racers. 


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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

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SPEAKER_01 0:05

Okay, hi. We're here for the Idaho Girl Fraternity for Behind the Buckles. We have Jake Stanley as our guest, because we just, you know, jerked him in off of the parking area. I tried to get your wife to come because I said, so we're all gonna have to be like kind of cut cuddled in the trailer, and you might as well come too, and we can talk to you about it. And she says, No, you can just have him.

SPEAKER_00 0:26

She has too many rules anyway.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

She was like, just he can go.

SPEAKER_04 0:32

Because you know, for some of you that don't know, he's not a barrel racer. That's not what he's actually here for.

SPEAKER_01 0:37

Weird. Shocking. He's being a very good, supportive dad and husband. That's that's your new like role. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, it's awesome. Well, uh, so we're just gonna, like we said, we're just kind of going with this. So why don't you tell us a little bit about like growing up, how you got started. I have a couple of things, and then and then we'll just go into the rodeo and then dad mode.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Yeah, I've always lived in Hermerson, Oregon. Dad was a horse trainer, rode bareback horses. Uh I wasn't tough enough to ride bareback horses. So I was a team roper, rodeoed for 10, 12, 13 years, somewhere around there, and now I'm a cattle buyer. So and a father of two daughters and a barrel racer.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

And it's just how I thought it was gonna turn out.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you thought you were for sure gonna have two daughters, and I used to make fun of people for doing stuff like this, and now it's me.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

Yeah, full circle.

SPEAKER_04 1:35

Tell us about your rodeo career though, because it was a little more than just like, uh, this is just a team rover.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

Made the finals once. It was just good enough to win some pretty cool rodeos, but not good enough to make the finals every year. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:50

Favorite rodeo win?

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Pendleton.

SPEAKER_04 1:51

That's what I think.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Yeah, and you've done that a couple of times.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Twice.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

Yeah, yes. Yeah, yes, yeah. I the last time when you went with Buck, I was really disappointed in Buck's inability about to jump the fence. No, no try. No, that was weeks fast.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

Yeah, well, not too much.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

Yeah. Also, you are our first team rover, too. I know.

SPEAKER_04 2:14

It's really been roughly barrel racer. So, I mean, now we're cracking into the time events. I know. I mean, I guess you wanna be a pair back rider, though. Yeah, sounds it.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

I got a one bronch once because I had to.

SPEAKER_04 2:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:26

How did you uh go two-handed?

SPEAKER_01 2:30

Yeah, cheated. That's all for the point.

SPEAKER_02 2:33

I would have done the same thing, I think. Yeah, yeah. Did your dad force you into riding any bronx at the house?

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Zero. You said you're pansy. Uh no. No. No, no, this is not gonna be your forte.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

You weren't the test dummy when he was starting Colts?

SPEAKER_00 2:49

No, no, no, he was better at that than me. Yeah, he has no self-preservation, I do.

SPEAKER_04 2:54

Yeah, well, I mean he was taking like super young horses. I mean, does he still like he was riding horses?

SPEAKER_00 3:01

No, he finally quit. I don't know, it was three, four years ago he was riding one and hated, and he got off it and kicked it in the belly. Was it one of mine? Nope. Okay, it wasn't. I know who's it was, and it wasn't yours. And he he looked at me and goes, This will be the last outside horse that I ever ride. And I was like, you're a liar. And he hasn't taken it. And he hasn't done it. Yeah, hey, I'm impressed. That's good.

SPEAKER_01 3:26

That is good. Sticking to your guns. When they make it miserable, it's yeah, your life is miserable. Yeah, so yes. So, okay, so you went to the NFR, but when you when you went to the NFR, you got slit, correct?

SPEAKER_00 3:39

Okay, so how did that all Oh I started rolling with Marty Becker that year, and we did pretty good. And uh we split right here in the Napa parking lot, I think, is when uh we quit roping. Well, we didn't we got you're in it for a month, so we're up for another month, but it was between Napa and Salinas. And so then I roped with Caleb Twistleman. Caleb didn't make the finals, I did, and uh Marty ended up 16th, so I didn't have to didn't uh didn't rope with Finals. He didn't say it for real. I don't care.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

I'm not sure Marty listens to our podcast.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

He didn't make it, and uh Clay trying cut uh Walt Woodard at Dallas. Um and so I got Walt Woodard and Clay wrote for Cory Petskin, so it was great. Thanks, Clay. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

So that's pretty awesome. It was pretty awesome. That's kind of like pulling in off of the basement.

SPEAKER_00 4:34

Well, no, no, no, it was it was it was a draw pod. I was gonna get whoever the okay. I was the only odd man out. So I was gonna get whoever. I guess there was some more odd men out, but uh, but the way it split, I mean, uh uh Clay after Dallas decided to rub Corey Petska. Okay, and so it left Walt and I. Like it looked like I was gonna get Corey Petska, and Clay took that job over.

unknown 5:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:01

So I got Walt Wooder, which is awesome. That's a great job. I mean, pretty, pretty, pretty bad deal when you have to get uh Walt.

SPEAKER_04 5:08

Yeah, no joke. I will say, I feel like out of every single event in the PRCA, the most drama is team ropers and their it's like and their partners and tense, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Stupid. Like I was an only child too, and I think that's why I'm turning into a team roper. So then I turned into a team roper, and now you have to share your shit and and uh I always said something hilarious, but I'm gonna cut it out. You have to worry about other people's feelings, and yeah, I was an only child, you didn't have to worry about that.

SPEAKER_04 5:40

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_04 5:41

I feel like every time you see like on social media, it's like, yeah, kind of right around Nampa Selena's like so-and-so cut so-and-so, so-and-so's the like he's out of the ring, he's slashing some of his tires.

SPEAKER_05 5:53

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Yeah, yeah. I hate that guy's wife. This guy's girlfriend's horrible. That guy's horse sucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's usually not the roping. No, right, no, right. It's usually not the roping. It's outside factors, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

Yeah, yes. Well, and when you're spending that much time on the road together, there's bound to be some for sure things.

SPEAKER_00 6:12

Two guys' checkbooks, and they gotta align and nobody's nice when it starts costing your own money, so yeah, then it's right back to that is that is a good point. Yeah, I was just as bad as anybody. I I'm not gonna say it's the way it was, but when your checking count starts going down, down and you're like, Man, I do have a mortgage at the house, and I do have this, and we haven't won anything, and you know, Team Roper X is a good guy, but yeah, I can't catch for him or he can't catch for me. Let's try something else. Usually you're wrong, usually it's the wrong move, but but at that point you already made it.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

Yeah, yeah, something needed to change. It's like changing your rope, changing your exact glove, changing your partner.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

So when you got to the NFR, how many times had Walt been at that point?

SPEAKER_00 7:04

I mean, oh well, quite a few. I'm not the greatest stat person, but I mean, he'd won the world the year before.

SPEAKER_01 7:10

Okay, that's what I thought. I couldn't. Wow, and Clay was just like Yeah, Clay was like your out.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

He grew up with this younger guy.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

And uh um, I don't know. Um I don't know how many times Walt's made it.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

I don't actually either, but it was enough that when you got it.

SPEAKER_00 7:28

He was a veteran, I was not.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

Yeah, and do you think, I mean, did that make you feel more confident or did it put more pressure on you?

SPEAKER_00 7:35

Walt was awesome.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

He was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 7:37

Yeah, he was awesome. He called me up before, and uh um he's like, How do you want to rope this? And I'm like, I knew the answer. I mean, but I knew what he wanted me to say, so I said it and made it my idea. I mean, it I think it paid 17 or 16,000 then, which uh is crazy now that pays nearly 30,000. I know, I know, but at the time, oh wait, so at the time 17,000 was a lot of money. I mean, yeah. It felt like, yeah. Yes, I didn't have anything, it was 17,000 more than I had. Yeah, still a lot of money, still a lot of yeah, yeah, yeah. But uh uh, I was like, go fast and tell we get ourselves in the spot where we're gonna slow down and go for the average. That's great, he said, That's great. I was like, Okay, sounds good. Yeah, well, good, yeah, he was awesome.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

Did he have any good uh words of wisdom before he backed in the box the first night?

SPEAKER_00 8:29

He called me up and he goes, I've tried it all all the ways. We you can go sign autographs, you can go have a great time. He goes, I do better if I practice. He goes, I want to practice on the odd nights. So the first, third, fourth, seventh, and ninth. He goes, I want to practice those days. I was like, Yeah, I don't care. He goes, I've got an arena reserve, so we'd go over Charlie Orky's on those days and wrote. Well, the first day we go, Speed Williams and Albok were sitting there practicing. I'm like, they're pretty good. I'm gonna go watch them practice and see what they do before. Yeah, and so I've got my head poked over the fence looking at them, and uh Walt comes over and gets me by the shoulder and he goes, Come with me. I'm like, Yeah, he goes, You're not Speed Williams, and I'm not Al Bok. Let's not watch what they do. We don't give a shit what they're doing. He goes, We're Jake Stanley and Walt Woodard, we're not them. Yeah, don't try to rope like them today because it's a bad time to try to rope like them. Yeah, maybe do that a different day. So we don't even need to watch that.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

So this doesn't uh need to happen. Yeah. I love that. I always say that about people at the I'm like, don't like you think tune in on your horse in the warm-up van, you're not gonna train him at the barrel race.

SPEAKER_02 9:37

Like or like in time only is like you watch somebody go before and then do what they're doing, and they're doing the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:43

Yeah, and it's like, well, is that what you've been working on? Is that what your horse needs?

SPEAKER_00 9:47

Yeah, it was great advice because that's how I got good was just I was a copycat. I mean, if I was roping somewhere and somebody was better than me, whatever they did, if they whipped their horse over the head, I whip my horse over the head. If they threw their whole rope, I threw my whole rope. This is what we do. Well, I mean, they're better than me, so I'm gonna try what they're doing. And then when they leave, I'd be like, well, that didn't work very well. Or that worked great. But I just caught and I don't know, Walt was never around me enough to know that, but he must have seen me looking over and he's like, we're gonna nip this in the butt right here. He's like, We're already here. You don't have Speed Williams, you don't rope like Speed Williams.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Let's not try it. Yes, this is not the time.

SPEAKER_03 10:29

Yeah, yeah, that's hilarious. Let's try rope like Jake Stanley.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

Okay, sounds good. I'll do that. I love that though. I mean that was good advice. Yeah, yeah, yes. Yep. So then, so you went to NFR and then you you rodeoed real life for a couple years after you had some really big wins. So, and you wrote with Justin Davis.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

Yeah, I rope with a lot of people and a lot of good partners. Uh Justin, which is my wife's cousin. So we roped a bunch. Um, great partner, rope with Bucky, other great partner. Yeah, Bucky and I never we always rodeoed together, we always buddied, but we never went and tried to make the final.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

I know. See, in my brain, I had almost thought that you guys had, and then when I was going back through, I was like, Oh, you haven't. You just I mean, not just you tormented the Northwest. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

Yeah, Bucky always wrote with Funk. Yeah, Funk lives a mile down from my house, so we'd all get in the rig. We always buddied. So I was always in the rig with Buck or BJ, Matt Funk. That was my crew, yes, and then when uh I was done rodeo on, wanted to come home, sure as heck got probably the one of the better head horses I ever had, of course, when you're not gonna go rodeo. 100% can't get them when you're when you need them. And uh um Buck got a good horse. He was coming home. I think he just got done maybe with Dave Key. Oh, yeah. And he was broke and gonna come home, had kids, and so we circuit rodeoed and it was probably a waste. We won everything we went to. Literally, yeah. I'm like I mean, you know, going to Idaho City or Ontario, yeah, yeah. You know, winning$700.

SPEAKER_04 12:04

Having a good time though.

SPEAKER_00 12:05

Yeah, I mean, but it paid the bills.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

It was oh yeah. I mean, well, you guys didn't just win those sort of days, you also won like Kennewick and Pendleton, and I mean big ones, but yeah, I get what you're saying, but it was just a different because you guys were married, you guys had kids, like life changed that this is what was happening. Yeah, um that does kind of make me laugh though, because I was reading an article, I have like two parts to this in the Team Roper Journal, and the whole article was about like the wolves of the 80s and 90s and why they came up with the number system is because of these people, and one of them was Troy Perkins. Yeah, and so you you were in there talking about Troy, and I actually, when I lived in Pendleton, I kept my horses at Perk's house. Like he probably wouldn't like even remember me, but that guy probably taught me more about bits and fields. Oh, just he was great. He would literally ride a broke horse and make me get on a colt, and I would just follow him around in circles in the arena, and he'd just telling me, you know, all these things to do. But it made me laugh because they wouldn't let so you had to pick then. Like you were either going to the NFR or you're taking everybody's money because you couldn't go to the amateur rodeos, just like you're saying.

SPEAKER_04 13:10

I think they still do that in Canada.

SPEAKER_01 13:12

Oh, do they? Yeah, and it just it made me laugh. But you you'd bought a horse from Troy? Did you rope with Troy?

SPEAKER_00 13:19

I mean, like I I went to the college practices there in Pennsylvania. Oh, okay. When I turned 16, uh, as soon as I could drive, I went to every college practice they had until I was probably 26. I only had about 10 years span in the Blue Mountain community college. 10 years at community college. Yeah, now that Claire's 14, we're starting over and we go to college practices still.

SPEAKER_04 13:38

You're like, hey guys, I'm I'm alma mater of like 10 years. It's fine. So did you go to school at Blue Mountain? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

I did go to school at Blue Mountain.

SPEAKER_04 13:48

Uh two out of the 10 years he practiced there.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I went there a couple years. But uh no, Larry and Troy, Larry, Larry Patterson, Troy Perkins. Larry was a coach. Troy was just always there. Practice at his house. He should have been the coach. Um, Larry's the greatest human being on earth. Perk's not the greatest human being on earth. I love them both. So uh, but between those two, that's why I got good. Um, a lot of I mean, they're probably the most help I ever had. Uh, Larry was a good coach and be like, hey Jake, try this today. And that's the only thing. And then Perk would sit in his chair and make fun of me while I tried it. Come on, pro rodeo. You know, try this. And say the meanest shit you could possibly tell me. Completely mean. I mean, and just uh uh I still have a message on my phone, I will not delete it. And it's the only compliment Perks ever give me. Oh my gosh. Yeah, and I was I went to a Jack Putnam, I think I won two freedom one day. It was up at the track, and he called me up and he's like, Jake the snake, this is Perk the Jerk. Good stick in the day. Good job. And you're like, Did hell just freeze up? I thought I didn't even call him back. This is a trick, so I never even called him back.

SPEAKER_04 15:02

You're like, we're leaving it there. He said something nice.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Like, that's oh, but you know that like he like thought that you were just the biggest thing ever. No, he really wanted to make sure that you have you.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

He wasn't an asshole to anybody that he didn't like. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean he didn't waste his time if he didn't like you, it'd be a prick. Yeah. But but he was on me day in, day out. I couldn't break in my rope ride, I didn't ride my horse right, I didn't park right. Nothing I didn't know. From the ground up, he was gonna just let you go. Start to finish. You're a retard. Yeah. And about the time you thought you're good, Perk would explain to you how you weren't good. It was great, so like keeping you humble.

SPEAKER_01 15:41

You're gonna make it or you weren't. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. I did. I mean, he I mean, obviously you had your dad too, but I mean, yeah, I was always impressed with his horses. I mean, he made them toe the mark.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

Yeah. So Perk was good.

SPEAKER_05 15:55

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 15:56

Is was there anybody else? I mean, we were just talking outside before we were on the camera that uh, you know, Texas gets this big like all the accolades, and they and not that there aren't really great, phenomenal people and horses from Texas. There's just a ton of them. And in Northwest. Well, it's a huge state too. And that's a large state to draw from. Yes, and a lot of great horsepower. But yeah, like in our group up here, we are too. And just like in that article, they were talking about like the wolves were a whole group of people.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

There's great people everywhere, but in Texas, it's I mean, rodeo's what they do. I mean, it's it's their yes, it's it's their thing. And rodeos, you know, like right now, rodeo's cool everywhere. It's been cool in Texas.

SPEAKER_01 16:42

From the beginning. From the beginning. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

Being a cowboy is cool. People go to town and they wear their cowboy boots. That's true. They wear their cowboy boots. They they uh they encourage their their kids to to rodeo or be cowboys, and and uh so you have you have a the biggest state other than Alaska, um, you got you got the biggest landmass, and you have that type of ideology that that cowboys cool. Yeah, they thought about it. So when you show up somewhere, instead of two or three very talented people, and then 20, 30 that are recreation, you've got 30, 40 very talented people and another 70, 80 that are recreational. Yes, and so just the I mean, just the volume makes it to where, but the talent, I don't think I think I think the talent comes out of Texas because it's it's built towards it, but there's what there's way more, it's a bigger pool.

SPEAKER_04 17:48

Uh yeah, I also think people move to Texas from here, from all these other I mean you think yeah, I went to college down there, and everybody at my college, I mean maybe a couple Texans, but Canada, the Northwest, everybody, and then a lot of them stay and claim Texas.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

I always laughed. I I I would stay in Stevenville when I rode you down there, and uh I go, man, I love Stephenville. And someone goes, why? And I go, because there's not a Texan there. I mean I mean they were from just like you said, they're there it was the melting pot. And if you if you're good, you've got to go to Texas and figure out if you're great, yeah. And you will find out. Uh you'll find out what you know, and it might not be a Texan that whips your ass down there, but they're in Texas. Yeah, right. Exactly. Avery Jed isn't a Texan, and either Shelby. Yeah, yeah. They live in Texas, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 18:41

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Prime example, both people I went to college with, like, you know, badasses, but they now live there. And that's why we were giving Cade Bruno shit when he was on because he just bought a house in Haiko and we're like, I swear to God, if you ride behind that Texas flag at the end of the next year.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

I'm like, I will call your parents.

SPEAKER_04 19:03

They can't take another one from the Idaho. And then so he talked around it for about 20 minutes and then he said, I'll ride behind the Idaho flag.

SPEAKER_02 19:13

Like, okay, well, we have it on video, so you are not going back on that.

SPEAKER_04 19:17

But yeah, I think that's right. But then, yeah, because people do forget, I mean, the amazing just team ropers that have came out of Idaho, Oregon, Washington. Yeah, you know, it's it's it's and I think I think everything's trended.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Texas has always been great, but um, I think as the last 30 years progression, I mean, Bob A come from Goodyear, Idaho. Yeah. I mean, one of the greats, yeah. Um, you know, California used to be the spot for the team ropers, then it's used over to Arizona. Now it's tech, you know. I mean um, but but Texas deserves a lot of credit. There's been a lot of great. Oh, absolutely. But they're everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

100%.

SPEAKER_05 20:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 20:01

Yeah, California's another one that doesn't quite get the credit it deserves all the time. Because they're I mean, I I kind of put them in with us though, because it's a lot of you know, yeah, they're with us, and so I think that, but um, yeah, credit where credit's due. But if you put us all together, we're doing pretty good, yeah. You know, of here for sure. But so now do you still rope at the circuit rodeos, though? So I know my 15.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

Hopefully, only 15.

SPEAKER_04 20:28

Sometimes it takes 17 or 18, but you're like, I gotta go to Cashmere now and go back to the grand crew the other day just in case. Hey, you can like go to a shit ton of circuit rodeos now in the Columbia River if you wanted to.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

I mean, it it it honestly right now's in a good spot though. Um, but like Redmond paid$4,800 or something for the team rope in the other day. Yes. I mean crazy. Houston paid$5,000 when I wanted the average.

SPEAKER_05 21:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:05

Well, I won Houston 05. That was the first place I went. Um, I was in college at Blue Mountain and got a call from Kurt Jones, and he asked me to rope down there. He got cut by Travis Tryon. That's how I got my start. And I won Houston.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

The Tryon's just a really banking year.

SPEAKER_04 21:22

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, no.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

But uh, I started off with Kurt Jones, and uh we won Houston that first winter I went down there and paid$5,000 for average,$2,500 for the rounds. I won around and won the average, won$7,500. And I mean I was pretty I was pretty pumped. I was at$7,500. I yeah, my mom gave me a$3,000 credit card to go rodeoing on, and I'm like, shit, that's twice what my debt is on my credit card.

SPEAKER_04 21:49

Yeah, I'm great. But I'm not paying mom back. No, no, I had to pay her back.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

Yeah, yeah, I had to, yeah, yeah. But I bought it right back, it went past. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Crazy. I mean, that's really not that long ago as far as where it's gone from there to where it is now.

SPEAKER_00 22:05

Yeah. I mean, yeah. It was 05, I think, when I did that.

SPEAKER_04 22:08

So 20 years ago, and now Houston pays 65,000. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

Yeah, but but I called my dad and I was pretty excited about it after. And he goes, What'd you do? It was before the cowboy show. He couldn't watch every damn thing. Yeah. And I go, I won it. And I was high callback by like two seconds. So I should have won it. But if I didn't win it, it was something. Yeah. And uh I go, we won it. He goes, How much? I go, 7500. He goes, shit, I paid that back in the 70s when I rode bearbackers. I'm like, Rollies! You're like, well, it still pays it, and I'm pretty happy to have it. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

So here we are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:44

Speaking of, I uh my grandpa Bob A, so funny when we were talking before he passed away a few years ago. His biggest win was the Cow Palace. I can't remember. I think he won the Bronx Riding, the serial wrestling, and the bull riding, maybe. He won three events, won the all-around, and he won$3,200.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

And just beat himself.

SPEAKER_04 23:04

Yeah, I mean, and like beat the shit out of these guys. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 23:08

Yeah, Stetson Ryan would have won$22,000 at the Cow Palace. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 23:14

You don't have to even change. Yeah. So I think rodeo, you're right. It is in a good spot. And it has came, it's in a good spot, and it's came a long way, but it's still like leaps and bounds for it to go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:25

I mean, even some places still don't have equal added money in the team rope.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

Exactly. That okay. I'm gonna like gracefully go about this because we do have to have other people on here. That is something that I keep thinking. I'm a hundred percent for the breakway roping. We too we need it. It is important. Those like women are impressive, and it's been they've been impressive for years. For years, 100%. But sometimes I'm like, we gotta pump the brakes a little bit because the freaking team roping hasn't even had equal money until just recently. You gotta take it one step at a time.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

I've said that to three or four times. I try to be careful about it. Yeah, I know. I'm I'm happy. Me too. I want to be happy for the brake wares. I've got two daughters, and I'm sick of barrel racing, so I'm a really big promoter. Yeah, let's get this done. Let's learn how to catch a calf so we don't have to learn how to run around these three stupid barrels and ride these stupid horses.

SPEAKER_04 24:17

Let's I gotta see yesterday I was driving home, and I want you to not lose your thought, but I breakway roped forever. And yesterday I'm driving home, and I've it's been kind of shitty since you know, in the barrel racing for me. And I'm like, God, maybe I should start roping again so I can go to the pro rodeo.

unknown 24:34

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 24:35

I'm like having this thought. I'm like, maybe I just have to do it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

I told Claire that she's trying to get where she can break away, and she has days of greatness and days of not. Yeah. And uh, I'm like, hey, I make all right money, but I don't make retard money. And in order to keep you mounted, it might take retard money. A hundred percent. And uh, so you better learn how to catch a snake unless you want to get a job. Yeah, right. Yeah, like let's let's start. That's so real. Yeah, yeah. Like like when we accidentally have a good barrel horse, cool, cool, but it's an accident. It's an accident when you get one. It's a there's two sides of it. It's like winning the lottery.

SPEAKER_04 25:21

It truly is to have to have one that you can win on at the rodeos. It's now now even more so than ever. It is like if you're not spending 300,000 and then I'll guarantee you're gonna win. Exactly. Or more. Yeah, or more, and then I mean you make a good one, and you run a 17-4, and you're at Basin City, Washington, and they're like they clap, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

They're like, Good job, good.

SPEAKER_04 25:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

And you have a great horse. Exactly. It is a great horse, it's just and you could give sister to somebody else, and it might just be an average sum of a bit.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

So the horse has to get the right human and the absolutely right.

SPEAKER_01 25:59

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. It's not that you guys aren't capable of making, but you do have to find one of like a freak factor.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Yeah, I can go get on the top 10% of any of the team rough and horses and win. Yeah, yeah. Yep. I'm old and washed out, and if you give me the best horse, uh I can still win. Yeah, and the barrel racing, just because it's the best horse, doesn't mean it works for you. Exactly now, and the best head horse will work for me. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 26:29

That's that's how you know here we are advocating for the breakaway. Yeah, I see. I started out trying to be careful on the shaky ground, but absolutely like because when Jimmy Monroe was the president and talking to her about the history of what it took to get, she was like the spearhead of equal added money in the barrels or just getting barrels at the rodeos. Yeah, I mean, and so I'm like, they were fighting tooth and nail for years, and I understand the breakaway ropers have like have been for a little bit, but I don't think they realize how much ground they've gained in the short amount of time.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

Well, when it's coming, it's just not coming as fast. But I mean, yeah, it in I feel like comparison to like equal added money in the team roping, getting the barrels even in the rodeos, like it took a long time. Like 100% might take a little bit, but I think it's happening.

SPEAKER_04 27:14

It's on its way.

SPEAKER_00 27:15

Yeah, it'll happen, and you want it to happen overnight. Yeah, you you you understand breakaway puts the same amount of effort as a team rope or a calf roper or a bronzer. I mean, I mean, everybody puts a lot of effort out, everybody puts a lot of time to sacrifice a lot of things, but Rome wasn't built in the day, and either will breakaway roping. And it it you want it just to be able to snap your fingers and oh, it's gonna be in the Thomas and Mac. Oh, great. I can remember going to Thomas and Mac, that's probably like seventh or eighth grade, and my dad took me and we got tickets from David Moats, and I didn't even know what he was talking about. And he's like, you know, it would sure be nice if this rodeo had equal money in the team roping.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

Oh, at the freaking at the National Finals rodeo.

SPEAKER_04 27:55

Yeah, when my uncle D was there, I don't know. We never got equal in the team open.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

Because Dean was done, or D was done by the time I went there, yeah. And no, they didn't have equal money.

SPEAKER_05 28:05

Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

And when I rodeo, we're sitting at a at a PRCA meeting in Dallas during the tour finale, and the team rappers are asking, like, why don't we have equal money at this point? You gotta have it in your rodeo. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a mandatory event now, so why why don't we have this? And I don't know what Bronck Rider was there, and he looked like you guys don't have like they can add half the purse, and we're like, Yeah, well, he didn't even know. I mean, he I don't know, and it was a good bronck rider, and he wasn't a prick about you know, yeah, just you know, if you get to get to you know, like Canada, they hate team roping and the bronck writing. Um they say that, but team ropen's pretty big in Canada, yeah. I was like, yeah, there's a lot of Canadian in there, but there's there's a there's a small, small niche that that that doesn't, um and they don't care, but the the rest of I don't think I don't think anybody in the PRCA wants somebody competing for half the money, yeah. And I think everybody would sacrifice, and I think all the other events would sacrifice for the breakaway. But when the breakaway says, Hey, if you don't do this, we're not hey hey, that's a great way to have an event that doesn't have to be there. Like Clovis this year didn't have breakaway, yeah. Well, good job, girls. Yeah, I mean you put an ultimatum and you got your ultimatum back. I mean, I know you're doing it wrong. You need it, you need to vote it in where it's a mandatory event first, and then then you can start and then demanding the money. Demanding the money, but for sure. But when yeah, let's say I'm gonna put on rodeo and somewhere, I'm gonna do it for profit. Yeah, and if that's gonna cut into it. And uh cowboys will come. Yeah. I mean it sucks, but they will. It doesn't mean if if I'm gonna put on this rodeo and I'm gonna spend 250,000 to rent the Idaho Center and stock and rebuild stuff, um I'm gonna make money at it. And until you give me rules to make money, if I don't have to add eco money and all the top team ropers show up, or I don't have to add eco money and all the top requires show up.

SPEAKER_04 30:22

I'm gonna probably keep doing it.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

I mean, Sean Davis has done it forever. Yeah, I mean, and I want to cuss him for it. I mean, Idaho Falls is up 11,000 out in the rush stock, and we got over there and there's 5,500 in the tight events and 2,500, 2750 in the team rope in the team rope and we're all pissed about it as we're entering Idaho Falls. And I'm like, Yeah, you know, there's Sean Davis. He's not as stupid as he looks.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

Well, but it's also insane to me, too, how we get sucked into this because like now we do have rodeo fans, like you know, and so they see oh, you know, Stetson Wright, and and all the people, it's awesome, but also like the little Bronk riders, they get on a plane with a saddle and Mel Coleman rode the same saddle his whole career. Exactly, exactly, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

He went to FR 16 times severe saddle, I know.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

Executively he reminded me of the okay, you know what I'm saying? Like that was what he had.

SPEAKER_04 31:21

Yeah, I agree that the expenses are smaller. Okay, I'm you know, I'm married to a bull rider, so but that's that that that's that's not the rough everybody wants to be a good one. No, that's not their own.

SPEAKER_05 31:31

Everybody wants to know everybody for sure.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

And it's not my it's it's not it's not Mel Coleman was a bronck rider, and he picked an event that he could have a car and a$2,000 saddle and rodeo career out of. Yes. Well, I picked an event that I have to have an eighty thousand dollar truck now and a hundred thousand plus trailer with a horse if I don't make him 75 to 150. I picked that.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

I know, exactly. I mean gotta wish Mel was here right now. He would just be telling us how smart he is. Uh-huh. He is.

SPEAKER_05 32:04

Ask him.

SPEAKER_03 32:06

Ask Barry. Ask Mel about barrel racing. That's what it really gets into.

SPEAKER_00 32:13

That's where I get a lot of my bases from the barrel racing too. Mel and I, we sit over there and we talk our own language, and then we actually show up and we're like, yeah, it's great. You guys are doing that. You guys are doing something great.

SPEAKER_04 32:24

You guys know how to, you know, keep your relationship happy. You're like, we won't talk about so you now you're here. You're barrel racing dad.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

Yeah, it's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

So what do you think that you like have brought to the table, like helping your girls? I mean, there's lots you brought to the table, but I mean like mindset or I hope like like having a goal or uh uh I'm not a like write your goals down.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

I mean, you wake up and if you have to write your goal down, the goal isn't good. I mean I mean, but wanting to win something, wanting to um best thing rodeo did for me is what I liked it, so I'd get up and I'd work at something, you know. Yes, and I didn't have to be asked to go practice. I didn't have to say, hey, you should take care of your horse, or maybe you need a better horse. You know, I was the one that was like, this horse sucks. I want a better one. I mean, I mean, but it's what I got, so I'm gonna try to win on it until but um you know to say, you know, rodeo to help my kids in the you know, like business, that's that's kind of an oxymoron. I mean, it's a bad business. But um without rodeo, I I I would have had nothing. I mean, I I shouldn't say, but but my every dollar I've ever made because of rodeo, uh the friendships I have. Um but you'd you'd hope that they have something to work for, I guess, is the biggest thing.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

Like a reason to get to get up and do the things.

SPEAKER_00 33:58

Get up and do the things. And the the greatest thing about rodeo is you can take it as far as you want, and then you're never done. I mean um now rough stock, it's a different different yeah, but you can stay involved. You can you know how many people, Mal Coleman, Road Bronx, made a living red Bronx, and then now we're gonna team road. Yeah, and he's still involved, still loves rodeo, still and I think it's it's unique in that form where um you go play football and you kick their ass and you go to the top, but there's a day you're done with football. There's a day there's a day you're done with basketball, there's a day, you know, um where you might not be able to compete at the same level. And I think there's there's outs in those sports too, but but at least rodeo you can um be a part of it. Be a part of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

Yeah, absolutely. It's a great sport.

SPEAKER_04 34:54

I think that's yeah, like peop people that have done it, and then they I don't think you can have a bad thing to say that like you said, the people that you meet and the friendships, like how we all know each other, and just like we're sitting here at this barrel race.

SPEAKER_00 35:06

You know, three generations on our family knowing each other, and exactly probably wouldn't have rodeoed if it wasn't for your grandpa, because he's the one that hauled my dad around in Goodyear, Idaho. I know. I mean, and honestly, I mean Bob A. Robinson was my dad's idol. He was he's probably he's probably my dad's Troy Perkins. I'm not saying Troy maybe was my idol, but I mean, very similar, and and uh um it it it's great that way. Um and there's there's a lot of opportunities. There's the people are good in it.

SPEAKER_04 35:37

I mean truly, and like even though you're a couple years ago, like you and I didn't know like haven't known each other that well, and I'm like, I'm calling Jake and I'm staying in his house every time I'm in Hermiston, like I'm like, you got some stalls for me? He's like, Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

And I've done it so many times, it's like it's what's it's it's payback, and you might not be paid back the people that you stayed with, but it's it's yeah, right. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 35:59

I've seen my favorite thing is when like people are coming through and they want to stay at your place, and you're like when I have 54 Capri campers outside, I'm like, at least you know we're gonna have a good meal, and yeah, yeah. They're yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:11

So they're good people, like as as a whole, I mean, just good people. So yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:17

Well, seriously, thank you so much. This I feel like every podcast we do gets better and better. I'm just we can cut that part out, but that was awesome. You were absolutely amazing. So thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00 36:28

Spears coffee, really fucking good.