The Traditional Catholic Couple

The Power of Suffering in the Catholic Faith

Martin and Tiffany Colindres

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This episode explores the Catholic perspective on suffering, focusing on the significance of the cross, the role of Our Lady of Sorrows, and how faith transforms pain into redemption. It offers deep insights into embracing suffering with trust in God's plan and the example set by Mary and Joseph.


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The Catholic understanding of suffering and its purpose.
The significance of Our Lady of Sorrows in Catholic devotion.
How Jesus' suffering and death offer a path to redemption.
The role of trust and surrender in facing suffering.
Practical ways to unite suffering with Christ and find grace.

Suffering is a mystery embraced by the Catholic faith as a path to salvation.
God understands our pain because He experienced it through Jesus Christ.
Suffering entered the world through sin but was transformed by Christ on the cross.
Our suffering can be united with Christ's to bring about spiritual growth and healing.
Mary’s sorrows teach us trust, surrender, and love in the face of pain.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Suffering and Faith
09:25 Understanding Suffering in the Context of Faith
17:27 Embracing Suffering and Trusting God
22:47 The Pain of Loss and Maternal Suffering
30:33 Forgiveness and Compassion in the Face of Hurt
33:41 The Heartbreak of Losing a Child

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SPEAKER_02

Hi, my name is Martin.

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And I'm Tiffany.

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And we are the traditional Catholic couple. We're gonna be talking today about suffering, the Catholic perspective of suffering. Suffering is one of the greatest mysteries of life. Every person experiencing some form pains, sickness, rejection, loneliness, failure, grief, or loss. No one can escape it. Many ask, why does God allow suffering? Where is God when I hurt? So the Catholic faith, it doesn't run from suffering. We embrace it. That's what we're called. We call to embrace suffering in the in the pain. Um, and we can discuss into this. I always like the part they talk about um it cannot be a good resurrection Sunday without a good Friday. Friday. Yeah, correct. So we need suffering, you know. The Friday, the crucifixion of our Lord, pretty much teaches how to suffer. The everything should go to the cross, go to Him, and everything will be fine. So we're gonna be talking about that. Um, we're gonna get a little bit about Orladio's sorrows. Uh that we have a section that we want to talk about about her sorrows. Pretty much is what is suffering? We're gonna do like a quick um talk about suffering. Um, and then we're gonna get into Orladio's sorrows, talk a bit a little bit about Lady O'Sorrows, why we go to her. Um from there, we're gonna do a series of videos related with suffering, and so much to cover in that part, and it's so important that we all understand the importance of suffering in our life. Um the Catholic faith does not ignore suffering, nor does it give shallow answers. Instead, it looks directly at suffering through the cross of Jesus Christ. 100% accurate. Number one, God understands our suffering. Christianity is a unique because God does not stay distant from human pain. In Jesus Christ, God became men. He felt hunger, tiredness, betrayal, rejection, sorrow, physical pain, and death. We wept at the tomb of Lazarus, or he wept at the tomb of Lazarus. He was mocked, scored, crowned with thorns, and crucified. So when we suffer, we do not pray to a God who doesn't understand. We pray to a God who has wounds. So that is so important, right? Or God understands our suffering because he lived on his own life, he gave his life for every single one of us to redeem humanity. He understands it. Number two, suffering entered through sin, but God redeemed it. God created the world good. Suffering was not part of his original design. Sin brought disorder into the world, brokenness, death, pain, injustice. Yet God, in his mercy, did something incredible. He took suffering and transformed it into a path of redemption, the cross. Once as a sign of shame, became the sign of salvation. This means suffering is painful, but it's not meaningless.

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Right. Number three, we can unite ourselves to Christ.

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One of the deepest Catholic teaching is that our suffering can be joined to the suffering of Jesus Christ. When we endure pain with faith, we can offer up for our conversion, our family, souls in need, healing in the world, reparation for sin. And this is something called offer it up. It doesn't mean pretending pain is easy. It means placing our pain into the hand of Christ so He can use it for grace. Number four, suffering can purify the heart. Many saints teach us that suffering can humble us, detach us from pride, and deeper our trust in God. When life is comfortable, we often rely on ourselves. When we suffer, we learn dependence on God. Saint Teresa Calcutta once showed that love can shine brightness in the darkness. St. John Paul II taught that suffering has power when united with Christ. Number five, we must help those who suffer. Catholic teaching never glorifies pain for its own sake. We're called to release suffering wherever possible.

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We should feed the hungry, visit the sick, comfort the grieving, defend the oppressed, support the lonely, pray for the hurting.

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Love is a Christian response to suffering. Suffering is not the end. The cross was not the end of the story. The resurrection followed. For followers, for believers, sorry, for believers, suffering does not have the final word. Dead does not have the final word. Christ does. Even when we cannot understand our pain now, we trust that God can bring resurrection from every cross.

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It's your suffering today. If you are suffering today, know that God sees you, God has not has not abandoned you.

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Your pain matters, your tears are known to Him. Your cross, care with Christ, can become holy. So let us pray, Lord Jesus Christ, teach us to create our cross with faith. Give us strength to those who suffer, hope to those who despair, and love to those who feel alone. May every sorrow united to you become a path of glory. In your name, Jesus Christ, O Lord and Savior. Amen. So I think so. This is so important, right? We kind of get us a little introduction about the suffering and understanding the suffering of our Lord. This is why we're gonna do kind of like the series about suffering, and we're gonna start with our lady of sorrows. Our Mother Mary is one of the perfect role models, all right? The Holy Family starting with Jesus, obviously, is our Lord or God, but following that path is go on Mother Mary. She was dying with him on the cross and Saint Joseph is such such important role, right? The Holy Family to teach us as a family how to embrace suffering and live it, right? Um, recently to this um Lent. Uh, one of my intentions or one of my prayers to our Lord, it was leaving this lent.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, make it the best land.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, correct. I asked him.

SPEAKER_00

Oh no, and then he also said, make this like no other land I've experienced before.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I asked him like that, like my wife said. I, you know, during prayer, I asked him, Lord, make this land like the land that I never experienced before. Make it uh, you know, every land I always pray for improvement, something that changed on me and my family. More graces, more virtues, right? And to walk away from sin or every single sin, the vino sin, everything. Um so we we I pray for that for myself and also for my family. Um, I prayed and I tell them, like, Lord, I I want to have a very unique experience, and boy, he delivered. Probably one of the best experiences that we ever have for suffering.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I was just thinking about how suffering in general. Uh recently I was even asking myself, uh, as we were just starting to join the ministry, they said that there's a great potential to uh experience some retaliation. And I understand that as Catholics, we're gonna experience retaliation, but I think this was just a completely different level, which we had to really take into discernment. But just even thinking that, like, God, we're gonna do something for your will, like, why would you cause this level of suffering? And so I really had to ask myself that. And while I was thinking that, I was like, well, of course, we're doing his will, and we expect some sort of protection, but then it's also how would he know if we're doing something for him for protection or for love? So I so if we're just doing it for love, then we're gonna be there no matter what, the retaliation, the protection, the good, the bad, the ugly, right? But if it's just for protection, then we're doing it for our needs versus if we love him. So at that point, we don't even know if we love him because we just know that, oh, God is safe, he's gonna provide us something for our own needs. So it's uh based it's going through that understanding that where God is, we're gonna experience some sort of suffering. And that's how we're really gonna reunite ourselves with him because he suffered on the cross.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely. I agree with you. You know, recently we are um discerning to join a ministry uh that is very close to us. You know, we've been uh working technically leaving it a spiritual warfare for some time, for some years.

SPEAKER_00

Um I think I think it's just more, but it's well yes, but it's more of being one-on-one, helping other families really figure out what areas that they really need to improve in their Catholic lives.

SPEAKER_01

Correct. So it's it's a very unique ministry, right? But at the same time, it's kind of like like my wife said, it's the worries can come to it, right? That's the way I see it. It's it's more like that. When I when I try to go on and be like that, I I see your point that it's beautiful to see it like that. Um about the suffering. Are we doing it for his love or are we doing it for protection? You know, kind of like that that department when you talk about that that ministry. Um for me it's it's very straightforward. Just you to being a Catholic and because you want to lead your faith, you're gonna have a target. So why not do it all the way? You know, why put any kind of any kind of safety belt for you to be like, oh no, you know what? I'm not gonna do this, and and and because I I don't want to get into that kind of trouble. It's kind of like the priests, right? The priests are they got the target because they're priests. But as soon as they get their hands, their hands uh knowing, knowing it is it's it's a prime target. That's it. You know, and then sometimes they ask and they say they want to become an exorcist, or they're gonna work into that kind of ministry, or you know, uh they they immediately kind of run away from that department. Oh no, no, no, no, I don't, I don't, you know, I don't want to touch that. Uh but you're a priest, you're a target no matter what. So that's exactly the same thing. Is if if we are working for the Lord and we're doing everything as a family, and and we want to do one million percent on our domestic church, you're gonna be a prime target. You're gonna be they're gonna try to take you out. So might as well fight the good fight, join that fight and and do it a million percent. Trust the Lord. So that's the part that uh we we starting with suffering, that that we want to discuss about suffering. This is why we picked this suffering, something that we just experience in a deeper level, and the guy gives us the graces and the virtues to move forward, but also to learn walking with him. That is it's possible, we can do it. So yes, we are going to get this uh started, we're gonna talk about Lady of Soros, and that's gonna be our first part uh that we're gonna discuss is of Lady of Soros and why do we pick Oladyosaurus? Gonna give a little bit of explanation on that part, right? Um as a as a couple with the experiences that we have for us as a family, one of the most important moments as a family in red software, I think so. It was marked by Old Lady of Soros. That was one of the most important parts of the recovery of the marriage. It was through Old Lady of Soros. So we want to talk about how our Lady of Soros helped with the suffering because she, as a mother, experienced the same thing on suffering right from the beginning, right? One of the first suffering, O Blessed Mother, through her deepest pain and faithful love to our Lord Jesus Christ, she never runs away from the suffering. She never, she always embraces and she trusts God at the most important part. So that's something that we are all of one called to it, and it's a trusting our lady and understanding what is going on, right? So those moments that they are key in our life, that we are kind of challenging, that there are difficulties. We need to do our lady, imitate our lady and ask her, they help us on that department, right? Then one of the sufferings that we can talk about it, right? And it is if we don't understand the pain. And some of those moments that we we don't know how to how do we even process it, is always go to her, go to Lady of Sorrows and asking her for Mama Mary. We need we need to be able to get this uh pain. I don't want to run from it, I want to be you be united with our Lord Jesus Christ. And we ask her to cover us with her mantle and to protect us and to actually lead us on that with her heart, with her love, um to be closer to it, right? In the first sorrow, say the Simon tells Mary that a sword will pierce her heart. From the beginning, Mary knew that loving Jesus will include sacrifice. Of course, it's her son. She loves her son like any mother loves her son. So her sorrow teaches us to trust God completely. This is one of the things that we will set on this, right? On the first sorrow. But also it helps us to know that we need to like totally understand that when the sufferer comes, we need to completely flick that coin and do it as she did. She doesn't want to see her son in pain. She never complained to God. She never said, God, you know, take this away from my son, or or don't don't allow the pain to go through. She completely surrendered to God and in silence, she united herself with Christ because she knew I was gonna die to redeem the war. So it's the same thing. That's all we need to do. We need to go in and put ourselves into a situation, right? That's what you can elaborate on that part.

SPEAKER_00

You pretty much summed it up, right? For that is how she knew from the beginning, she just really embraced the suffering versus having it take it away.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. On her second sorrow, we're gonna go through every single of the sorrows. Um, so we can kind of like break it down uh and see how the suffering is so crucial. On the second sorrow, Mary and Joseph flee to Egypt to protect Jesus. She becomes a mother on the road, carrying fear, danger, and uncertainty. Her sorrow reminds us to pray for families who suffer, especially those who feel unsafe and alone. This is so important, so important. Like as a family, we're called to always be praying for every single member in our church. As for our church, we always lift up the families that they need prayers. We always do it. We do it offering in the mass, but we actually do it on the daily prayers. Why? Because as a community and being part of the body of Christ, we are uniting ourselves into that, and we are pretty much going to our Lord, going to our lady and say, Help us, Mother, help us, Lord. We need you. We can do it without you. It's impossible. We need you. So this is so important, right? On the second sorrow. I also go a little bit deeper on that part, and it's understanding if I have to run to a place. I have to go to a place. Um I'm gonna say that again. The other part that I want to talk about on this, that it go deeper, is if I have to go in and run to a place that I don't know the language, I don't have no ways to take anything. And I abruptly in the middle of the night, I was waking up and I have to leave my wife. I'm talking about Joseph. I I have to leave my wife to a completely new place that we don't know what's gonna happen. I don't have time to pack any food, I don't have time to pack any clothes, I don't have time to buy anything that I use to go in and do my work. And how scary it would be that, right? The or least uh if we're gonna go in and see it for everybody. See, I try to go in and see a point of St. Joseph on my part. I would say that for me it was kind of scary because you know, I it's completely trusting God 1 million percent without no hesitation. So this is why, as a man, as a leader of the family, we always or role motor is the holy family, and we need to go in and get St. Joseph involved. Right now, actually doing the novena for San Joseph, but it's that is for going and helping us to go in and destroy all these demons because he did it, right? And imitating him and being so obedient to God. So, what else you can say as a mother? What would be your your experience? Yeah, going and be Tiffany, we have to leave and let's go. You don't have time to get on anything. What will be your experience on that? In pregnant, because you were actually pregnant at that point. The the or lady was pregnant, and we're talking about a lot of months. It was not like I see what's like at one month and she's little and anything. No, it's uh advance.

SPEAKER_00

I think it's like a lot of confusion. Like, why? Like, why do we have to leave now? But then also just trusting you in God, be like, okay, you know, I think um you're the protector of the family, so I have to also follow your lead and just know that God's also our protector, too. So just trusting in God as well.

SPEAKER_01

Correct. Yeah, I think so that you just nailed it on that. It was completely trusting, trusting God. It is so important for the families now that we're talking about the families and this sorrow, that is trusting God, trusting Him completely, right? Trusting everything, like the marriage in a family is what we're right, it's so important, it's so crucial. But we are called to imitate the Holy Family, we're called to go in and be like the leader in my case. I have a specific role as a as a husband. My wife has a specific role as a mom, right? As a wife. And then we vote on coming together in Christ. It's it's not a people, you know, a lot of people can get this wrong. The the marriage is not between two people, the marriage is between three. It's actually Christ in the center. It's Christ's center. Without him, we have nothing. We cannot do it. We will fail every single time miserable, right? So he is the one that is changing us with the graces and virtues, and our lady being part of it. So that's something that we can elaborate in that sorrow. I'm gonna move along to the third sorrow. In the third sorrow, Mary loses the child, Jesus, in the temple. Her heart is filled with worry as she searches for him. This sorrow teaches us to keep looking for Jesus wherever we feel far from him. So, but what else you can elaborate as the the as a mother and dad, right? I think so. This is very deep between a mother and their kids, and it's how the matriarchas this is a very big word, a matriarch at home. The wife is the heart of the home. What you can elaborate on that part.

SPEAKER_00

Um when she was for the uh when she lost Jesus for three days. I think that's hard because you know you have he has this big mission, but now you lost him. So you're like, oh my goodness, now he's not gonna be able to fulfill God's will for him. And it's it's very scary because like you could I there's one time where even why he lost Avery and the mall for like 10 minutes, and 10 minutes seems forever.

SPEAKER_01

So imagine three days, three days, yeah. Three days, like like I I mean personal, I nothing on this word can help me understand that. Like, like I will go crazy. I don't know how her lady and San Jose did it, but I I I will lose it completely.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think I don't even think that our lady even slept for three days because you how do you even go to sleep when you don't even have your child with you?

SPEAKER_01

Correct. And not just that, right here in the car, at least you can get the car and try to search around, whatever you gotta do. You gotta wait to move and try to track something with technology, so many stuff, right? You can go on. But we're talking about right here in back in time. It was no GPS, it was nothing like that. It was not air tax, it was nothing that they can help you with.

SPEAKER_00

And they were traveling, so it's not like okay, you know where home is.

SPEAKER_01

Correct.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so how does he know and you you might even be saying one place one night and another place the next night?

SPEAKER_01

So you don't know where you're living. Yeah, that's so scary. I don't know, that's sorrow. I imagine I I imagine her heart, how the sadness, the the the sorrow they go through that, right? Losing Jesus. This you know, how how can you even comprehend it? Right? So for me, that was something very, very unique, like for our lady, extremely unique. How how she enduring to that. So, and then obviously, on this is also the every single time that we are looking, that we we have to be looking for Jesus, especially when we feel apart and we feel separated from him. We need to look for him immediately, right? Always on the fourth sorrow, Mary meets Jesus carrying the cross. She sees her son suffering, yes, she remained near him. Her sorrow teaches us that love does not always remove pain, but stay present through it. So for the fourth sorrow, uh for me, this is very uh special, I would say. But it touched me in a very unique way. I think so touch uh everybody in a very unique way. Um as a son, the best comfort that you have when so when you got her as a kid, I put myself when I was a kid is your mother without hesitation. It's not that well, it doesn't mean that we're with that, we're not, but it's it's a completely different thing. It's mom, it's it's the arms, the kisses, the at the love that they have, a very unique love that they can give you. And especially that you feel safe. That's another thing. They wrap it with our arms, they wrap you around, and and and it's game is over. Every single thing disappears just because the love of mom. So on this, I can even imagine, imagine. And on top of that, first of all, she knows that he was completely innocent. There's nothing you can wrap around your head on that to thinking, an innocent man that the only help, that it only brings salvation to every single person, they only bring goodness to every single person they've got in contact. Because Jesus was like that, whatever he touched, he changed it completely. So for this is how can can you even as you know wrap it around your around your mind and said, hey, you know what? It's it's I can I can see him dying or whatever. It's impossible. Imagine the pain that she has, it was so strong, right?

SPEAKER_00

Avery, no more.

SPEAKER_02

Stop.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so can you elaborate? Okay, let's reset, because I don't know if I'm gonna be able to cut that. Can you elaborate on that as a mother? What's your point of view as a mother on that sort of?

SPEAKER_00

I think even when you're your kid is sick, like you don't want them to go through like any pain and suffering. So I think even when she saw him on the cross, it's like she wanted to take that pain away. But at the same time, she couldn't because that was God's plan. So it's it's knowing that, yeah, it's it's all it's surrender, that's surrendering that like I can't, you know, I can't do it away. And I do we just have to go through through the pain because there's no other way out of it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I think so. That is so so unique, right? It is so incredible. Um, you just mentioned something very important about that, it's the surrender completely. Imagine that, like you said, the normal reaction with a mother is to stop the pain. She would put herself in that moment to not see her son. But instead to complain, instead to say anything to the people that were spitting on him, or they were hitting him, or they were pushing him, or they were insulting him. She stayed completely quiet, just suffering with him at the moment. The whole entire time they they were going through a crucifixion.

SPEAKER_02

She was dying with him every step.

SPEAKER_01

In the fifth sorrow, Mary stands at the foot of the cross. She watches Jesus, gives his life for the world. Her show, her sorrow shows true faith, courage, and surrender. In the fifth sorrow, I would say that that for me is where I constantly ask our lady to meet her there and to teach me, at least for me as a man. I always, because everything that I do related when we're being oppressed or something is going on with the family, um, and and some very, very impactful moments in our life, challenging them, challenging um in our life. I always meet him at the foot of the cross. I always put it on the foot of the cross and said, you know, I want to be like as you, mama. You know, help me imitate that. And stay in silence and just offer that to her and to him, you know, I kind of like give it back to him and learn her not to be responsive. It's hard. That part for me is hard. I still is a work in progress. Um it's a work in progress to stay in silence, forget what somebody does to you, and pray for them, right? Like like Jesus prayed at the cross at that moment, right? He's praying to God and forgiving for forgiveness for everybody that was for the entire world. Um, so for me, that's that's what I can say and on the fifth sorrow, is is stand in a perfect state at the foot of the cross near Jesus and uniting myself completely to him, surrender to him. So, what about you on that sorrow?

SPEAKER_00

I think too, as uh Catholics, we often experience this right this. If one of um a brother or sister does something against us, you know, it it hurts, especially because they come from the same faith. And that's pretty much what what Jesus went through. So I think it is, it's um not giving them any sort of retaliation or bitterness, and it's really praying for the other person and praying through for their conversion as well, because there's something in their right life that is not right, so there's you know, there's a missing piece in that, and it's and it's the the right thing we do is just to show pray and love, correct?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, for sure. I agree with you. Yep. On the sixth sorrow, Mary receives the body of Jesus, she holds him in silence, trusting the father hearing heartbreak. Her sorrow teaches us to bring our grief to God.

SPEAKER_02

For me, in the sorrow is kinda hard. It's kinda hard.

SPEAKER_01

In many situations I think so we've been um close to Jesus in that, right? We meet him at those moments at the cross and we ask him to imitate in him versus retaliating to someone and so and and uh when we are in suffering or or something that it gives us suffering.

SPEAKER_02

Um but we need to come closer to to God, we need to come closer to to him and ask him to help us to carry that cross, to help us to to even die for them, like Christ died.

SPEAKER_01

Teaching our Lord, right? It's so hard. This is something for for I would say that by our own nature, it's almost impossible to do. You know, we cannot be as Christ, and when we are called to be as Christ, so we need to learn how to die in that cross, like he died for us. We gotta do a same thing, um, and and embrace it, embrace that cross. You know, God asks us to carry our cross and follow me. He doesn't ask us to be like, okay, you know what, this is gonna be a one-thing event and move on. No, he is very, very close to that. Um to say um carry your cross and carry it. What you can elaborate on that's sorrow to receiving your son death, you know.

SPEAKER_00

I uh it's I've actually seen quite uh some videos even this past week where um a mom is just holding their lifeless child, and that that hurts so much because as a parent, we we shouldn't be burying our kids, right? It's they should be burying us. So to have one of your own uh children pass away before you, it's it is so difficult because you have this whole life plan for them. You have fun to spend like have all these more memories with them, and their life is cut short, and that's nothing you you never want to hold, you know, your child's body that has no more life, has no more soul. So I think like that's probably the hardest.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, as a mom. That's something that you cannot you cannot um comprehend.

SPEAKER_02

And this is only talking about the you know, physical.

SPEAKER_01

What about spiritually? It it crush you, it will crush you, it's so hard, right?

SPEAKER_02

Um, you need to have God, you need to be very close to God. Um asking him to help you to carry that because other way uh it's very hard to to deal with it. The seventh sorrow. Mary lays Jesus in the tomb, everything seems lost, but hope is not dead.

SPEAKER_01

Her sorrow teaches us to wait with fate because God can bring life from what loot is looks impossible.

SPEAKER_02

Hundred percent right.

SPEAKER_01

Um like I said, it cannot be a good it cannot be a a good uh Sunday resurrection Sunday with a holy friday.

SPEAKER_00

We're gonna do prayer and I'm gonna we can do it later.

SPEAKER_01

We're later Mary or Mother Mary help us carry our crosses with love, teach us to stay close to Jesus in the suffering, to trust God in confusion in confusion. I'm gonna read it again. I'm mad reading. Mother Mary, help us to carry our cross with love. Teach us to stay close with to Jesus in suffering, to trust God in confusion, and to believe that resurrection always comes after the cross.

SPEAKER_02

Amen.

SPEAKER_01

So we're uh gonna do a bunch of series on suffering. We're gonna start with our lady of sorrow, that's what we did today. A kind of like a quick reflection about the sorrows, the seven sorrows of our lady, and how we can become closer to understanding suffering, going through every single of the stages, every single of the suffering she did. Um, we're gonna start producing with the grace of God and his protection back to normal schedule to do it every week. Um, we're back, and we're gonna start working on it. And please share it with your friends, family, subscribe to our channel, give us a like. Um, support us if you want to support us. We have a patron, right? Uh, you can help us to get the keep getting this message out. The family needs it more than ever. So fight for the truth, and God is alive, or lady, or ladies for protection.

SPEAKER_02

Ask for her to cover her cover you with her mantle and to keep you close to her heart. Right?

SPEAKER_00

What else you gotta tell them or uh if there's any other questions that you have about our lady of sorrows or anything that you want to cover c want us to cover about suffering, uh drop it in the comments below.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you, and God bless.