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We discuss the Miami Mall incident in 2024 and the magnitude of the police response. Was it an alien? Was it paranormal? Was it teens?
Hi everybody, I'm Vera.
SPEAKER_03I'm Mia.
SPEAKER_02And we are Spectral Homicide. Um, our episode today, we are gonna talk about UFOs.
SPEAKER_03And the Miami Molep incident.
SPEAKER_02Aliens!
SPEAKER_03Aliens, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, but before we get into that, Mia is going to This is a very special.
SPEAKER_03Oh shit. Sorry, my mic.
SPEAKER_02Mia is gonna put her microphone on because we cannot hear her when she doesn't wear it. I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean you can put it a little lower if you want to. It's cute.
SPEAKER_03No, I'm gonna clip it directly on my areola. Okay. Yeah, I like it there.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_03Um we have a very special album of the day today, actually, because it is Blackened Nocturnal Wizardry by Coffin Moon, which is my boyfriend's band. What? Yep, he gave me the CD. That's his band? Yeah. Um, all right, Coffin Moon is an Alaska's Right. Right. It's Alastic. I guess. Sometimes we all need to stretch. It's an Alaskan symphonic and raw black metal band run by my boyfriend Bitus, or his stage name, King Vitasol Gotros. It was formed in 2021 in Kodiak, Alaska. And a term coined by a friend of the band and a collaborator is freezing Alaskan black metal, although the band's sound is that of traditional Norwegian black metal, inspired by Alaskan nature, Norse paganism, and of course other metal bands. Um he is like specifically inspired by like Merciful Fate, which fuck, I don't know if that's I I I'm getting it mixed up. I'm just like remembering the bands that he likes, but um there is um a second album in production currently, uh Cholkonga. I hope I fucking pronounced that right. I don't speak as much Norwegian as I'd like to. Um I don't speak any. It's okay, I got you. Um he has a few Dungeons songs as well. Um I'm really excited because I'm actually a fan of his music, and I don't have to pretend to like his music just because he's my boyfriend.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, we love him. Yeah, we do. Yeah, so last weekend we had a um why can't I remember the name? Rocky horror. Rocky horror night at our house, and her boyfriend was here for like four or five days, and it was so much fun. Um, I know he was nervous.
SPEAKER_03He was so nervous, but we had so much fun with him. It's okay. Before he got here, because we're long distance, I was pacing back and forth, and I was telling mom, I'm gonna fucking throw up. I'm gonna throw up. Ooh, I'm gonna puke everywhere. Like he came to the door with flowers and peach rings and in that cute, in that cute little leather trench coat, the motorhead trench coat. He was so adorable.
SPEAKER_02God, he's adorable. He's so adorable, and they're so cute together.
SPEAKER_03I actually hadn't seen him since we met at the Cradle of Filth show, like a month before this. So we've known each other for like a month. So And he fits. He does, he does very well. It feels like it's been years. Um we've literally only been together a week, but it literally has I don't know, it just feels like it's been a really long time. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's pretty exciting. I know we like him a lot too.
SPEAKER_03I'm really excited.
SPEAKER_02So okay. Um I'm sorry, did I interrupt you? Do you have more on your span?
SPEAKER_03I there's not much information, honestly. And I don't want to reveal too much.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's okay. It's okay. Because I because yeah. So some of the things we've been up to lately, and I know we say we're gonna lock in. One of these days we'll get our shit together and we'll do that. Um, but today I started playing with my embroidery and I'm just I'm I'm raw dogging embroidery, so um, raw dogging embroidery is gonna be the name of my new band.
SPEAKER_03Oh, period.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Metal grandmas. Metal grandmas. And Lana's the frontman.
unknownOoh, ooh!
SPEAKER_03Lana's like fucking 20. Yeah. She she'd be the frontman of a grandma themed metal band. But she kind of dresses like a little bit of a big thing. There is kind of a there is kind of a grandma metal band, not really. Um there's Welcome Home by King Diamond, but that's just a song. Ah. It starts with grandma! Oh my god. I know it's it's that's yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think I think King Diamond would endorse it, honestly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I think he'd love that.
SPEAKER_02No, it's summertime over here, and um, like I was I I gotta admit, like, I always say we need rain, but like the amount of rain that we're getting this summer is totally fucking up my vibe. I'm not even gonna lie. I'm loving it. I don't know what's wrong with her.
SPEAKER_01Um, I would like to enjoy my outdoor theater.
SPEAKER_03You can enjoy the outdoor theater with an umbrella. If you're watching Twilight and the projector gets and like the little screen gets rained on, hello, it adds to the vibe. Yeah. There's some movies that you can only watch in the rain.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. Yeah, I guess you're right. I mean, I do I guess I could put up an awning, but then when we get those thunderstorms and the windstorms, that would really in Kansas.
SPEAKER_03You'd have to fucking flex seal it to the fence.
SPEAKER_02I swear to God, but I will say after the storms that we had, oh, we had that one that was like 130 mile an hour winds, and we were gone, and I had you totally rebuild our backyard.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, and the hail that thunder cunted onto your car.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, it looked like a thousand micro penises were thrown at it. It was crazy. It was like that's literally $9,000 worth of fucking hail damage anymore.
SPEAKER_03I was like, it's gonna be like $3,500. No.
SPEAKER_02Nine thousand dollars. I do not, I I can't even fucking put it in words.
SPEAKER_03I understand like cosmetics and everything, you wouldn't want your car looking like that when you drive it around. But why the fuck? Why do people bother with hail damage? Like if it's not super severe. I really don't get it because who fucking cares? Well, as long as it gets you from point A to point B.
SPEAKER_02On newer cars, I could see the reason. Like that if it was like just a couple little spots, I would I would have been like something big.
SPEAKER_03Resale value, I understand. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Have you seen it? Have you seen it?
SPEAKER_03Oh, I've seen it. Oh my god. I've also seen Chris's truck. I can't but his hit nearly. My fucking I don't give a fuck if my Jeep gets hail damage. I really don't. Because like we've got bigger problems to worry about there.
SPEAKER_02Well, like my truck, I don't care if my truck, like if George gets hail damage, it's cool.
SPEAKER_03George being 60 years old.
SPEAKER_02Like yeah, he's he's supposed to be a little banged up, you know. He's cool.
SPEAKER_03If you don't understand, like got hail damage. But that's a cosmetic car.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, she's so beautiful.
SPEAKER_03She is. Um, I just don't understand other than like cosmetic reasons why people get hail damage repaired, because like it's really not that big of a deal.
SPEAKER_02I think if it's newer cars than it is, you know, why? Or if it's a sentimental vehicle. Well, I mean resale value.
SPEAKER_03Sentimental, like all that, I understand. Yeah. Like sentimental value, resale value, and uh cosmetics, that's like the only valid reasons I could think of. Because other than that, who fucking cares? I just a car is gonna get you from point A to point B.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, with my.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I know cyber truck owners are pissed. Yeah. Yeah. Because they're like, oh, this car is like indestructible. You can't even drive it through a fucking puddle. And there's a lot of puddles right now. Oh, there's so many puddles. But I almost fell in one when I was trying to walk after that deer. Just walk like slowly. I went on uh uh trail near our house today and I saw a deer and I was really excited. Um and then when I was uh walking over to it, it ran away, and I felt like oh okay, so I'll just like hang myself now. Oh my god, no, she's generational aura loss. Like that he didn't sense she didn't sense my whimsy in stay. She didn't sense my whimsy. I I need to like up it.
SPEAKER_02Maybe she was you know, maybe she just needed to get to know you a little better.
SPEAKER_03I know. Yeah, because like if you if she knew my whimsy, she wouldn't have run away. I think so. It's the same thing with birds, it makes me really sad when animals run from me because it's like I'm not gonna eat you. Can't you sense my whimsy? Don't you want to be friends? I want to be friends with you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think I saw the same deer that you're talking about yesterday when I was on the phone with your sister and I was driving up the road. Yeah, she was just kind of stand there, it's like she's so majestically perfect. Oh, she's gorgeous. But I do have to admit that I drove really slow because I was driving Papa's car. Yeah, and like if she would have run into that car, I was no coming back from that. I I wouldn't even know what to say.
SPEAKER_03That car I understand hail repair damage because like that sentimental and also cosmetics because it's so sleek. Oh, it's so sexy. Um but like with shit like my jeep, like yeah, I like that Fiona, my Jeep, um is cool and badass and tough looking. But I would not give a fuck if she got hail damage because like she just a lifted jeep.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. Your sister is roller skating upstairs. Oh, I can't. And you're you're and and Maddie's trying to get the baby to sleep.
SPEAKER_03I'm I'm going to have to mom. Freaking Vitus and I, when we were watching Twilight and the storm and it was raining outside, he was like, the thunder is so nice, and I had to turn and I fucking turn to him and I said, That's Taylor's footsteps. He was like so relaxed, too. He was like, and then I had to break it to him, and that's just my little sister putting all 90 of her pounds into her fucking feet. I was so mad at her.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I oh, I do have to admit, I don't know how they step so heavy.
SPEAKER_03I don't either, because like I've always been trained to like step lightly, but that's for a reason. Well, I I will say that when you were her age, you were pretty stompy too.
SPEAKER_02Well, yes. Yes, I don't get it, but it's okay. All right, so all right. Do you do you want to start off with your thing or do you want me to?
SPEAKER_03Um can you like read over it a bit so you can read it? Okay, I'll tell you.
SPEAKER_02Um I will so this is what uh all right. So this is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go into mine, and then you can tell me where we're gonna do that. We did the same thing. I don't think so. No, no, we didn't. Okay. All right, so first, you start. We're gonna lock in, we're gonna talk about the Miami Mall. Um so I did not know about this, honestly, until Mia's conspiracy party back in April. Oh, it's so fun.
SPEAKER_03But um now she pesters me with reels about shit that I've known about for like 10 years. Like, they killed Selena Gomez in 2017. No, they didn't. There's just so many things. I'm like, oh my god, no, they fucking what are these things doing? You know what happened to Selena Gomez in like 2017? She got a fucking kidney transplant, mom.
SPEAKER_02Actually, so the conspiracy along with that was that she and Justin Bieber had a baby and uh one of the Kardashians took it. There we go.
SPEAKER_03But I don't know. The Kardashians have enough fucking kids, they wouldn't take someone else's. I mean, I mean they're taking Alabama Barker, but that's because she's a mess and she fits in. I don't even know who that is. I don't know. Travis Barker, like the drummer from I think Belinquin 82. Oh, okay. That's a his his trashy little daughter. Oh she had a beef with you know Catch Me Outside Girl, Bad Baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She had a beef with her because um Bad Baby's baby daddy slept with Alabama Barker. Yeah. And then Alabama was like acting like he's some big catch. Mind you, Bad Baby had cancer at the time. She had just given birth. Like literal cancer. You're cheating on a cancer patient, and you're like, ah, ah, I fucked your man. She has cancer. Oh my god. What is your fucking problem?
SPEAKER_02You know what? I mean, honestly, like I wouldn't be surprised if that person just went and just started kicking dogs.
SPEAKER_03You know?
SPEAKER_02Alabama, yeah. It kind of sounds like just a shitty.
SPEAKER_03Their diss tracks against each other were so fucking well you showed them to me. They were pretty bad. Bad babies, Danielle's were good. They were good. They're good. Danielle's were good, but she's been in the game since she was fucking 14.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And I fucking I'm a huge fan of bad babies. Yeah, yeah. You showed me a little bit. Like, all the shit with Dr. Phil, I was there for all of it. Okay. I was not even like Cash Me Outside. I did watch that episode. I was like, what dude? The actual fucking supported her through all of it, and nobody can even refute that because I've always been a fan.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, you have.
SPEAKER_03I've I've her music was like a guilty pleasure for a while when I was trying to act like all hard and like, oh, I only listen to metal. Bitch, you listen to everything. Yeah, you really don't even lie. You were bumping bad baby, Johnny Cash, and fucking Belfagore in the same playlist. Come on now.
SPEAKER_02Um, and Edith P.
SPEAKER_03Oh, Edith PF, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I love Edith PF.
SPEAKER_02All right, but we digress. Um, so I have to admit, like, the conspiracies are really just like, wow, so hard for me right now.
SPEAKER_03Some of them are such bullshit, though.
SPEAKER_02Some of them are.
SPEAKER_03Like the way, like the wayfair thing. I fucking predicted that years ago.
SPEAKER_02I honestly will never look at it again.
SPEAKER_03They're doing it again with vintage. Vintage, like a second.
SPEAKER_02We'll talk about that. Okay. Okay. Yeah, that's um, there's a lot, like, oh my.
SPEAKER_03It's bad.
SPEAKER_02I have to admit, like, once we start talking about this shit, like, it is so easy to go down the rabbit hole for us.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's so bad. We'll never come back. I can't wait until I'm old enough to have a glass of wine with you, dude.
SPEAKER_03Because like the conversation will flow so well.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Well, I mean, this is more like it already does. This is more like grapefruit juice. I mean, I'm not grapefruit juice, but like grape juice. Fucking cute. It does taste, yeah. Your sister said it tasted like communion wine too. Maddie came home and she took a sip. She goes, It tastes like holy water. I was like, You mean communion wine?
SPEAKER_03She's still from the church again. Okay, for the record. I thought that the communion wafers were so good when I was a kid. I was like, Where can we buy these? It's it's unleavened bread. The only reason I kept going to church, well, one was because it made you happy, and two, it was because like they give you a little snack and a drink. And I'm feeling naughty.
SPEAKER_02So, um, so we're gonna talk about the Miami Mall um incident. Incident in uh 2024. So this is some crazy shit. I have to admit, I did not know what the hell this was until it like started popping up in my algorithm, and then all of a sudden I was like, what? This is insane. So for those of you that haven't heard about the Miami Mall incident, Mia, do you want to break it down real quick because you'll be better at that? Like kind of explaining it to them.
SPEAKER_03So in Miami, I think it was like New Year's.
SPEAKER_02It was New Year's Day, yeah.
SPEAKER_03It was New Year's Day. Um, a bunch of people were shopping, and a lot of people are saying like a portal opened up because these like super fucking big humanoid figures, like 12 feet tall and like pitch black, started coming out of somewhere and like lifting people off the ground and shit. And then afterwards, like there was like uh over 150 police cars at that mall, and then there was footage uncovered of the police like shooting at something that was fucking huge outside of the mall.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03And like afterwards, everybody's phones were confiscated and it was entirely blamed on teenagers. And then everybody started who was there was started was like, Hell no, it wasn't teenagers. Are you kidding?
SPEAKER_02If that's teenage, if that's teenagers, they get bigger every year. There's no way they could have confiscated everybody's phones.
SPEAKER_03Not everyone.
SPEAKER_02No, no, I'm sure they couldn't. No, New Year's Day, the mall is fucking packed. I mean, the mall's packed here in Kansas.
SPEAKER_03Like middle bum fuck nowhere.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like in Miami. Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_03Um in Miami, there is no way you could gaslight that many people and it not be like a heaven's gate situation.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So this is like that's a good, that's a really good way to fucking describe it. So I was going down the rabbit hole and I did a lot of research on it. And um, there are multiple resources that are sharing, like, you know, the same video of it's from like above.
SPEAKER_01Turn your fucking ringer off.
SPEAKER_02And uh, well, so it won't turn off when it's coming from you guys because um it's actually on do not disturb.
SPEAKER_03No, but hey, so I turned your phone on silent.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I know it doesn't matter. You guys are all on do not disturb. You guys are all like you guys get through no matter what. That's why when I text you guys at night, I'm like, just No, I know, I mean your ringer. Yeah, it won't matter, it'll still do it. Okay, yeah, I know. Um, so but I didn't know that when I did that, and now I'm like, fuck. So, all right, so this is what happened, right? So what happened in the so there's this video that's from like a drone, right? And in the video from the drone, it shows like all these cop core cars that are like an angle, and it's like the biggest one that it shows is like there's like an eight to twelve foot shadow, like there's shadows that are like between eight to twelve feet tall, right? Well, they're saying it's shadow, but it's actually not because the film is taken outside and it's and the shadow is gray, it's gray, yeah. Shadows are not gray, especially at nighttime. Okay, so the video's at night and it's from overhead because it's from a drone, and there's cop cars pointing in the direction of this being that's walking. You couldn't pay me enough to get out of that car. Nope. And it's I wouldn't have even gone. There, that and the thing is, it's like, so Officer Horta from Miami is one of the people that was one of the police officers that was there that was like, he did like an interview and everything on the whistleblower. Yeah, well, no, no, actually, he is saying that that wasn't an alien, that it was a shadow, um, and that from the angle that it was taken, it just made the shadow look larger. Bro, no, because the angle that the video is taken was from above directly above. And and so anybody that knows who has ever taken second grade science and you know gone over like shadows and how to make them larger, you know that you would have to be below to make it look taller.
SPEAKER_03Or anybody who's ever taken an art basics class.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So, anyways, so what he's saying, what happened was he's saying that there was a riot, that there was a group of 50 kids going in, setting off fireworks, setting up fireworks, and there was a riot, and they were looting and everything else, right? That's what he said. And they said that the officers couldn't get under control, so they called a citywide three. And a citywide three is a code that they call out to have all available units go to a certain location. I wouldn't need that for kids. I need you to look something up. Well, no, never mind, hang on.
SPEAKER_03You wouldn't need that for a bunch of teenagers. No, you wouldn't the second a teenager sees a police officer, they go fucking running. Yeah. And I know because I do that shit. Well, even if even if they didn't do anything.
SPEAKER_02Well, and that's the fucking bolt.
SPEAKER_03Well, it would have been there. How many entrances do you realistically think are in that mall? Not many.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_03You wouldn't you would need maybe six squad cars to deal with that effectively. Yeah. Well, not to hold all the kids if there was like say 50, you can hold you can hold like three people. It's like maybe like 20 cars. You wouldn't need 168.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, well, it's actually 186, is what they're saying. 186. So now just just to kind of give you like an idea of how severe of a response this was, on 9-11, 121 engine companies, 62 ladder companies, and dozens of specialized units responded to the twin towers. There was 200 um police there was 200 um police cars that responded to 9-11. And there was 186 cars that responded to the Miami Mall. Kind of give you like a scale of the magnitude of fucking response that this mall like a bunch of kids wouldn't have gotten that response. No. 186 cop cars showed up to the Miami Mall on January 1st, 2024. That is a very that's what I'm saying. Like, if we're comparing how serious this is, 200 cop cars, and and I mean, I mean, hundreds of other event for like the most catastrophic and horrible terrorist event on American soil. You know, I and this is and 186 cop cars came to a mall for kids fighting and lighting up fireworks. I don't fucking think so.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, no, and plus, if they were raiding, a bunch of the companies would have like a bunch of the employees of the companies would have come forward about like the financial losses and how they were expected to compensate for that. Yeah. And like put in overtime and shit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That didn't happen.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. None of that happened. I mean, best, but the thing is, it's like, I mean, when you look at this and everything, so this is the crazy thing. The only video surveillance that is available from inside the mall on that day. No, not so. Here's the deal none of the CCTV that they have on hand in that mall. This is 20 fucking 20s, dude. Hello. They have facial recognition shit everywhere. You're gonna fucking tell me that a mall in fucking Miami. Not to mention AI spyware for facial recognition. Exactly. You're gonna tell me that they don't have CCTV in that mall. Why are they not releasing any of that footage? Because it's bullshit.
SPEAKER_03And in such a densely populated area, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean fucking insane, right? To top it off, everybody who had cell phone videos, none of it was on their phones when they got home. Their phones were fucked. Wiped. Every single hundreds of people in that mall.
SPEAKER_03That actually that's a thing that I learned about recently in my uh computer concepts class with uh Klim or I want to say I don't know his fucking name. My professor, I don't know his name, but um if you're talking to like a phone company or if you're emailed like a worm or something, they can go into your computer and control it. Yeah. Uh if if you like enable some sort of thing. It was like a thing after the Y2K thing where everybody was like, yeah, you need to like enable. No, that's because if you leave your fucking phone or computer open, they can control it from that screen.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. Because you know what? Anytime I've had to call tech support? Tech support, they have to fucking jack your computer. They are ganking your shit. Well, that's the thing. Well, not tech support, but like not when I call them. They're actually fixing my shit. But no, I know. But like anybody who had cell phone footage, it was off their phones. They didn't have any record of it. But guess what? That's ganking. There is one video that is available from inside the mall. And it's not a good one. Probably on the ball. But it's gonna know. No, no, you know what it's on? A fucking VHS. It's on a VHS. And it wasn't had a VHS. One of the people that had a store. One of the people in the store, a store owner had a VHS camera, and it was their security camera that they had that that has footage. And the only thing that you see, yeah, you want to know what it fucking caught? That's what I'm saying. We are talking. Somebody didn't have the mall security. How paranoid do you have to be to be in a mall that has security and security cameras? And have a VHS camera. And have your very own VHS. That's some shit I would do. I'm not gonna lie, I do I don't hate on them for it because you know what? I'm glad they did it. Because do you know what that fucking camera showed? If I had a camcorder, yeah.
SPEAKER_03What? You could have used a camcorder. Why the fuck would you use a VHS?
SPEAKER_04Well, they if there's you could have all that shit around on their shoulders.
SPEAKER_02I gotta be honest, it was probably a very old person that owned this shop.
SPEAKER_03They're running, they're running, they're carrying this big ass bag, and that fucking portal opens, and they're like perfect, whip out their giant, hold it on their shoulder, wind that shit up, and they kind of didn't have to wind it. Oh my god, run around with this big ass thing on their shoulder.
SPEAKER_04Did you not? My parents had one of those. It's like pulling up to a skate park with a giant boom box. Hello, fellow kids.
SPEAKER_02So on this fucking video, and mind you, it's VHS, so it's not the best, you know. But what they caught was they caught three frames per sometimes.
SPEAKER_03Huh? Three frames per sometimes.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Well, so they got the they got the videos of the people running, right? And it's grainy. You can see the outline of the people. The people are like, they're like black figures, you know what I mean? Because this isn't inside their store. This is outside their windows. So outside the windows of their store, they're not gonna catch faces and stuff like that. That's how shitty VHS is. I'm not gonna lie. I know. Yeah, like all they can see is like the outlines of people running. But do you know what else you see?
SPEAKER_03The figures.
SPEAKER_02The figures. It's like and the portal. Yes, yes, it did show the portal. So, and this is the crazy part.
SPEAKER_03So you can't AI deep fake VHS, by the way. No, you cannot.
SPEAKER_02You cannot.
SPEAKER_03AI also cannot replicate how shitty VHS was. And also back in that era in 2024, that is when AI was in like its beta stages, and like deep fake technology was not really like a thing. And I understand that the government has had access to it since the 1950s and like MK Ultra and shit and all that fucking.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I came across an MK Ultra thing today, and I was like, I'm just gonna save this because I don't have time to dig into this.
SPEAKER_03MK Ultra was fucking insane.
SPEAKER_02We'll have to look into that, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Change. Um, because like if we want to talk about conspiracies, trust me, I'm I'm I'm your girl. Because like the hippies of the 60s and 70s and all that, and MK Ultra and the drugs, and Jim Morrison's father being a plant, um, Courtney Love's dad being a plant.
SPEAKER_02We're gonna I'm telling you, we're gonna keep going on this.
SPEAKER_03Write down Courtney Love's dad and the drugs in um what was it, Silicon Valley? Silicone Valley? I think some kind of valley, but um the hippie movement of the 60s.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um that I've been wanting to talk about for a while because I could talk about that shit for hours. It's also involved with Charles Mance and the anti-war movement and all that. Um and Ted Kaczynski because Ted Kaczynski was in M was a per person in MK Ultra, but um he was one of the patients, I believe. Yeah, which makes so much sense. But it does actually. Um you can't like back in 2024, that's when like generative and video AI was in its like beta features, and it was still like it was still like you would generate something and it would just like just be a bunch of colors. Yeah, you couldn't do something like that. And if it was generated by the government, they wouldn't have wanted that out. Yeah. So even if they could, because the government had access to this technology like a long time ago, like 50 years ago. But they don't have they wouldn't have outed that if it was the government.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's the thing.
SPEAKER_02So this is what that's so you couldn't that couldn't be a deep fake. No, well, and and you could tell because it's just it's and from the shittiness of the qual of the camera. Well, so here's the funny thing is the video that I found is actually it's VHS, so you can't play it on like a computer. They're playing it through a VHS player, and there's somebody recording it with a cell phone, like showing this video. So there's I mean, there's no sound on it. That's the only way to do it. Yeah, but then there's like the person who was there who took the video. So he'll tell you what that so I'll get into that. But this is what it shows. So it shows shadows, large and gray shadows. So when they measured it, there's somebody that went in with their software and they measured how tall these things were. The light gray. Yes, yes, because you know, when you're looking at the windows in a mall, like the high windows, yeah, you know, their heads were in the high windows.
SPEAKER_03Honestly, based on like the eyewitness account that I have, and from that alone, I don't think they were aliens. I think they were like sentient smoke creatures because every that's what everybody says, everybody who was there.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03They couldn't have been aliens. Like this had to be metaphysical, I think. Well, so I would I would say that aliens would make sense, but if it was like extraterrestrial, they would have been like they wouldn't have been smoke, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Well, they weren't so much smoke they're smoky looking. They're the they're gray. Yeah, they're literally gray. Like, so when you so the video outside from the drone, you can see a large gray figure.
SPEAKER_03They look more like apparitions though than aliens, which is what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but like on the video, the VHS video, it shows like gray disturbances, yeah, but that's because it's so grainy and it's so poor quality, which is why I'm thinking it's metaphysical. I would say that, but I'm gonna tell you why that's not it. And you're gonna fucking like, what the fuck? So another thing that it shows is there is this is where they think it came from. So they think that a teen had taken a device, a portal device that their friend had created, to a public place on the off-chance.
SPEAKER_03So basically the game portal.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like they're trying to like like somebody had made a device to open up a portal and they took it to a public place that way, just in case something happened, they'd have witnesses. However, another theory is so the coordinates of the Miami Mall are actually, if you reverse them on Google Earth, um, it's the coordinates in Antarctica where they had discovered the fucking, they said it was like an alien base in Antarctica. They had pyramids, this snow ice pyramids, the size of the ones in Giza, that like, and those are known to be antennas to cur to connect with extraterrestrial beings. And there was also a extremely large, I cannot remember the dimensions of it, I should have written that down, but there's a very large rectangular figure, it's a flat rectangular figure. Well, it's Captain America, but yeah, right. But the thing is, it's like it's the same. So if you take the coordinates for the mall in Miami and you flip it in reverse, it's those coordinates for the alien base in Antarctica. So the other theory that people have is that the extraterrestrial beings had put in the coordinates backwards and ended up in the mall rather than in Antarctica.
SPEAKER_03So believe that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, me too. So this is what they saw. So they heard this fucking sound, right? It sounded like a horn, like a very loud horn. But but it the way they couldn't describe the kind of horn that it was or the sound that it made. It just sounded like a horn of some sort, right? And then there's this huge bright orb of light that's appearing on the floor, like a very large cylinder, you know, and it's and it's getting huge, right? And all these people are like backing up. Like, what the fuck? And then like it starts, and then it then it kind of pops, and they're kind of looking forward, and then all these things start pouring out of it. These fucking creatures start pouring out of it. Now it doesn't show when the creatures pour out of it, but you can see that light from that film, like you can see this huge cylinder popping in to view and the people looking at it, and then all of a sudden, after it pops, they kind of get close, and then all of a sudden, they just fucking book it. Like people are fucking running for their lives. And we're talking people of all ages, like teenagers, elderly, like I mean, all nationalities, you know. I mean, it's like they are fucking everywhere, you know, and I mean like small children.
SPEAKER_03That's not even like white people's shit, you know.
SPEAKER_02No, no, like white people should have like, oh, I wonder what's on that hole right there, you know.
SPEAKER_03White people should take a look. White people's shit is jumping in.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. Exactly. Tie a rope around my waist, man. Let's see what's down there. I would I mean, like a girl. But the thing is, it's like, um, so people are like peering towards it, and then it bursts, and the next thing you know, they fucking they run, right? So this is the thing. Um, when you're looking at all of this shit, right? And and you take the coordinates in Antarctica and you flip it, and it's the mall, right? And and you take into account that anybody who had taken video, because you're gonna fucking tell me that these kids, and and and I'm sorry, I'm calling fucking bullshit. Because, first of all, they won't release the footage. Anytime there's any kind of looting, writing, fighting, anything like that, that's those videos are all over the fucking news. Oh, absolutely. All over the fucking news, right? Then there would have been so much footage that shit would have been on WorldStar. They would have fucking shown it all over in Fox News, they would have been like, well, and on this third, you know, like I'm just saying, all over the news channels, they would have fucking broadcast that CC TV that's inside that mall. But they're not releasing that. And on fucking top of that, fucking what's the first thing that a fucking fucking teenager does? Whip out the camera. Yeah, I know I do that shit. They're gonna do something stupid. Let's video like when there's a fucking fight in the cafeteria and kids are recording that. You're you're gonna fucking tell me. And I did. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_03Remember that 20-person brawl in my freshman year?
SPEAKER_02Yes, I remember. I sit on a table to record that shit. And that's what I'm saying. That is what kids do. You're gonna fucking tell me there's no video evidence of that. I call bullshit. Some people did get their phones confiscated. Well, I bet they did. So here's the thing: they arrested four people. Four. They didn't release the names because they're minors.
SPEAKER_03Why were why were they even arrested?
SPEAKER_02I don't know. They're not releasing the fucking reason. They are not releasing the details. There were four minors arrested. They were not releasing the details. Right. Okay, so let me get this straight. They're not releasing details. I mean, maybe they were really big kids. They were really big. They were like 12 feet tall. They must have been in middle school. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. And and that's the thing.
SPEAKER_03It's like teens get bigger every year.
SPEAKER_02They really fucking do. I have to admit, teaching second grade, I mean, there was a second grade that was taller than me this year.
SPEAKER_03Half of your students, I'm actually like, when I went to the book fair because I'm a loser and I still go to book fairs as an adult.
SPEAKER_02Um I mean, I still do.
SPEAKER_03Okay, look, we have the money now and like McDonald's money. Yeah, we have book fair money. Um look, I'm an adult and I'm gonna go to a book fair because there's fun stationery there and I wanna heal my inner child. I was like, that's not so wrong. I saw like that could like no couldn't have been older than like fifth grade. I thought he was my age. I was like, what are you doing here, brother? Oh, I kid you not. No, we had one. He was like, I I go to school here.
SPEAKER_02I s fucking. I swear some of them look 30. Like not even looking flying through TV. Some of them. That's why Maddie gets asked for a hall pass. Uh yeah, you expect them to pull up in their little Volkswagen? Mind you, she is 30. Yeah, not yet. She'll be 29, but yeah, close. So, anyways, um, so that's everything that I have, you know, right now. But I will say that um in Antarctica, they, you know, they were calling that an alien base, and they were saying that they were under ice, you know, same coordinates as them all if you reverse it. I mean, there's just there's so fucking much. So, but and that's what I have.
SPEAKER_03Alright, I have an eyewitness account that I got from Reddit. And a lot of people in the comments were like, I'm calling bullshit, nobody talks this fancy. They do though. They do, like and like God forbid, someone wants to be poetic about something that literally changed their fucking life.
SPEAKER_02It def something that changes your life will definitely change the way that you speak and look at things, period.
SPEAKER_03No, genuinely. And after something like that, dude, I'm um from a firsthand account I found on Reddit, I'm reading straight off my notes. Um, from a firsthand account that I found on Reddit, I found that it was like it was quote unquote like a sci-fi movie. The entities had purple orb-like eyes, smoke-like, shadowy creatures that were at least 12 feet tall. There was five of them. The op the original poster was picked up levitating almost off the ground, which apparently a lot of people were. Whoa. Which is why I think it's metaphysical.
SPEAKER_02I just gotta say, you and I didn't even fucking talk about the shit that we had, and yours says smoke-like figures, and I was saying they were gray. Yeah. That's fucking insane. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03Um, and all the cops there made it feel like they were preparing for war against the creatures. Phones were confiscated after the event, and the commotion was blamed on the teenagers, but the original poster was haunted by nightmares for weeks after and still is. Other sources say that there was a four-hour no-fly zone established above them all.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna look that up. Go ahead, Key.
SPEAKER_03Um, that's all my notes. Yeah. Um I really do believe that it was metaphysical because like a portal thing, if there was portal technology, we would have explored the rest of the universe by now. And we would have like if we had the technology to like create portals, we would have the technology to explore the bottom of the ocean. And like if it were aliens, the government wouldn't have exposed the fact that aliens are real to distract from the the the files. Yeah. Because like recently the government's been like, oh yeah, aliens are real, by the way. We know. Like, and like they've been having all these whistleblowers and shit, and like Area 51 ex employees and all that, and people who have seen aliens and and shit. Like, they've been like, Yeah, tell them, tell them, aliens are real, aliens are real. So we know it's a distraction from the Epstein files, of course it is.
SPEAKER_02The Einstein files. Okay, so I'm gonna tell you, I did look up the the four-hour fly zone. They said that there wasn't, but honestly, like they're they're denying everything. They're denying everything, they're saying that it was sensationalized by the media, but at the end of the day, 186 cop cars for kids fighting.
SPEAKER_03And like, no doubt thousands of people were there.
SPEAKER_02There, that's what I'm saying. It's like you can see on the video, like people were fucking running for their lives. Like, and they're saying, well, we were thought, you know, that people thought that there was a mall shooting. Okay, here's the deal. Okay, I'll buy that maybe people did think that there was a mall shooting. Okay, sure. Because the cops were shooting at them, yeah. And also it's Miami. And it's Miami. And it's Miami. I don't know. I don't know. I'll they won't fucking tell us if they did.
SPEAKER_03Um, I will say that uh so I'm The reason I think it's metaphysical is because of the levitation and all that, and plus like the government wouldn't have been denying that the shadowy figures were even there, and plus the cops saying that it was a shadow and not an alien. That's the reason I believe that it was metaphysical. Because like I don't know, if we had the technology to create portals and like I don't I don't know, it's just like they wouldn't be outing the fact that aliens are are real if they wanted to hide it so bad back then. Yeah. Because like it's them like outing the fact that aliens are real and shit, I'm like repeating myself, but I'm like trying to find my point. You know what I mean? Yeah. But them outing it now as a distraction from the Epstein files, of course, that makes sense. But then if it were aliens at the Miami Mall, they would have come out and said, Yeah, it was aliens there. Use it like to solidify their argument and that's the thing, and they're still fucking denying it. And that's so that's why I believe that it's metaphysic metaphysical. Yeah. Like people floating, the purple eyes, like, come on.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, and that's so here's the deal. Um, excuse me, I will say, oh, so nobody did die, nobody died that day, but it's like the fact that there's no photographic or video evidence, and no doubt that there is that they're fucking denying.
SPEAKER_03And even the therapist of the person whose like story that I found was telling them you hit you probably fell and hit your head, and you were like seeing something.
SPEAKER_02No, no, they knew what they saw. So I will say that um there is a sighting, a documented sighting of a UFO from the Navy, uh, and it occurred actually in 2004, and they released this the best part. So actually, before Baby Einstein was like talked about in like a huge thing, and they're trying to distract from the douchebag president that we have. I mean, our fearless leader, excuse me. Sorry, I'll keep my political opinions to myself. I won't. So, but here's the deal. So in 2017, they released a video of a um Isn't that after Epstein died? Quote unquote died. I don't know. You want to look that up real quick? So there was a a Navy, a Navy FA 18F Super Hornet, um that was that was like being flown from an aircraft carrier, the USS Nimitz. It's this is the most famous of the clips. It captures an oblong 2019. Okay. But that I'm pretty sure that was after his trial. Yeah, this happened, this happened before. They released the they released the video of this in 2017, and this occurred in 2004, and this is the Navy. So what happened was they captured this oblong white wingless object resembling a tic-tac breathman. What did they do in 2017 to distract from that though? I don't know. Um, so Commander Dave Fravor claimed that it accelerated and maneuvered in ways that defied known physics. So this came up out of the water. It was 40 feet long. 40 feet fucking long. And they have a video of it, okay? So the Navy UFO video refers to um the declassified footage captured by the United States Navy fighter jets. It was originally published by the New York Times in December 2017. Um, it forced the Pentagon to publicly acknowledge the existence of the secret UFO program. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03I think that it was um it was something involving Israel that that's why they announced the alien thing, because they tend to announce the alien thing once stuff about Israel comes out. Well, act so they've been doing this for a long time. Well, and then but not like Jerusalem established was established as the capital of Israel in twenty seventeen, which like escalated conflict in the ongoing Palestinian conflict.
SPEAKER_02Could be, but it also could be because this guy got out and he absolutely was not keeping his mouth shut. Now they Oh, they wouldn't either. They probably Could have killed them, I wouldn't doubt that somebody would have.
SPEAKER_03Well, they always kill whistles. But I think that there was so many fucking So sad that he died from suicide to three shots in the back. Yeah. It can happen. So sorry to hear about your funeral tomorrow.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I mean, honestly. So I but it was like, so then they said that um it triggered a massive wave of mainstream interest in unidentified aerial phenomena. UAPs.
SPEAKER_03So Ariola phenomena. Aeriola.
SPEAKER_02They called me an aerial because it's the tits. So, anyways, um, it's it highlighted um three specific Navy videos filmed by FA18 pilots. I always fuck this up. Uh, two of them were the actual focus of the initial 2017 New York Times article. Well, the third, they didn't release theirs until 2018. So it took them a while to finally like come out of their show. So um Ryan Graves, um, he is the he is one of the pilots that was there that day. And he talked about like what happened behind the um behind the UFOs with with the USO. He was there.
SPEAKER_03Okay, was it a whistleblower out into the thing with the aliens or was it the government? So he because the government tends to out things about aliens when they're hiding something big. No, he came here hiding something.
SPEAKER_02So it was a whistleblower. It was a whistleblower, so that doesn't count. So, but then what he says, he wasn't letting anybody like deny it, and even the commander backed him. Everybody on that ship, all the pilots, everything, they were like, No, dude, this shit fucking happened. Three of us saw it. The last one didn't come forward until 2018 because he was too scared, I'm sure. But like, even the commander was like, No, dude, like but like you get what I'm saying, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like yeah, if it was if it was the government, it was to distract from something bigger.
SPEAKER_02So basically, Ryan Graves, um, he was one of the pilots that was there that day, and now he has like this whole freaking thing. He's the one that started like this whole like investigation and stuff, and he started his own YouTube channel and stuff like that, and he's like, No, this shit happened. And he wasn't letting him deny it. And even his commander was like, No, no, man, this this fucking happened, right? And he's got a whole bunch of people on this project, like exposing shit. And so then the Pentagon was like, I mean, we really can't deny it because they all have footage and like you know, it showed like two ships. One of them was 40 feet long, one of them was 15 feet long. Um, and the smaller one looked like a disco ball, is what he was saying. And basically, the way that they moved, they came out of the water, which is wild because there's another guy that was talking about it like a while ago, how the aliens come out of the water.
SPEAKER_03I'm telling you guys, aliens are in the ocean. Yeah, and I fucking believe it because here's the deal NASA used to be about the ocean.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and I was talking to Chris about this the other day, and actually, I think I was talking to Maddie too, but it's like because Maddie said, you know, she doesn't understand why they'd come here. I was like, well, I don't either. It's a shithole. We're not hiding, and that's what it is. So when people explore all these other planets, it just looks like landscape, you know, like Mars, the red planet. You see that there might be there there was water, but you don't see life there.
SPEAKER_03I think there's a reason that aliens haven't come to our planet is because they see the shit that's going on. I think they're here. I think they're in the ocean, of course, but I don't the reason that there's not more extraterrestrials coming to Earth is because they're like, oh man, these guys have got some shit going on.
SPEAKER_02Well, and even on their planet, I'm pretty sure that they are living underground.
SPEAKER_03Because if they were so because if they were so like technologically advanced, they would have taken over us a long time ago. I think they just don't want us. No, they don't want us.
SPEAKER_01But they're probably they're probably studying. They're like, why are these people so stupid? They're like, these people fucking suck. Yeah, like we're little ants.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and that's the thing. It's it we're probably mice. We're probably like an ant farm to them. Exactly.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, honestly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because when we go to other planets, you know, do they want people seeing them? No, they probably live underground, and their planet is like the the base of their planet, the surface of their planet is probably like, you know, like a shield of some sort. Like, oh yeah, no, you're never gonna find a spitch. That's what I'm saying. It's like even in Antarctica, that that fucking alien base that they found and everything, like they're underground. Now, there has been sightings, like I know that I saw one when I was freaking 19. I know for a fact I did. Like, Mia's our Maddie's dad was there, and so was my cousin Josh, and we all saw it, and we were like, dude, like, I know what I fucking saw, you know, and it's like they were like, no, no, no. But the thing is, is so Dr. Mayam Bailick, I think Bailick. Um, he's what you know that name? Yes, I do. Okay, Tom. Sorry, go ahead. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, go ahead.
SPEAKER_03I forgot, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02No, no, Dr. Mayam Bailick.
SPEAKER_03I forgot. Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02So he's one of the people that's working with you know Ryan.
SPEAKER_03It just sounds really familiar.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so he's one of the ones that explains why, like the um the military like radar systems started like detecting all these different things, right? And they're like, oh, hang on a second, what's going on? Like, we're catching something. And so he's worked hand in hand with you know Ryan Graves to like expose this shit. And like the you know, the Pentagon's like, yeah, I mean, this shit did like legit happen, and they're not denying it now. Now, are they broadcasting and like, hey guys, guess what? We saw a fucking ship coming out of the ocean. No, they're not, but they are like they are confirming that it is an actual UFO sighting or a UAP, excuse me. So, but then so now we're gonna get into some really weird shit, right?
SPEAKER_03You know what's you know what starts, you know what UAP stands for? What Jeffrey Epstein.
SPEAKER_01I was like, wait, what? No, okay, so so here's the deal.
SPEAKER_03Why are they here? What what the hell do they want? So nothing we could we couldn't give them anything they don't already have.
SPEAKER_02Well, maybe they want to understand our psyche, is what I think.
SPEAKER_03Like the Annihilation Alien?
SPEAKER_02Kind of, yeah. Like the bear.
unknownOh the bear.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, the bear. So if you haven't seen Annihilation, um, it has this bear on there which absolutely terrifies Mia.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't terrify me, it terrifies Sam. I fucking love it. It's my absolute favorite horror creature of all time. So I absolutely recommend Annihilation, but I recommend you read the book. Did you read the book first? No, I have the book now. I'm going to read it, but um, I the movie's really good. It's just there's some things that it gets wrong, and there's four books. Really? Annihilation's just the first one. Well, I gotta be honest, that was a weird movie though. Well, it was supposed to be. Yeah, it was it just really puts cosmic horror like that really puts into perspective how small we are as humans in in the scale of everything.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, we're not alone. There's no way we're fucking alone. They just don't fucking want us. You want to hear some more weird shit? That connects to this. I'm gonna tell you right now. So three Portman's an alien. Sorry, go ahead. What? Portman's an alien. So three Japanese cargo ships um cargo beep beep that were that were sank in World War II Um turned up missing from fucking below the fucking on um January 31st, 2017. So in Usukon or Usicon. I don't know how it fucking how they say it. I'm sorry. Um, but they disappeared during exploration. The only thing that was left was large holes and depression in the sediment, but there was no ships. Studying these fucking shipwrecks. No, no, they happened everywhere. Here's another thing. So they were actively fucking like exploring these shipwrecks, you know, and studying them. And then one day they went back and they just weren't there. The fucking the people who were exploring, I can't remember what group it was, but then there was another one. Um, they were saying that ships may dissolve, but these three ships disappeared. There were no tremors, no current is strong enough to carry them or move them away.
SPEAKER_03And like erosion would not happen that fast.
SPEAKER_02No, even vents giving off gases from volcanoes that are underwater. Nope. Um, there have been several other shipwrecks that have disappeared from all over the world as well. They just fucking disappear.
SPEAKER_00Like when that happens.
SPEAKER_02So um the crazy thing that they all have in common is they were all sunk in World War II. All of them. Um, and so some people say, oh, you know, were they taken by human hands for valuable metals, brass or copper?
SPEAKER_03How? Really big hands.
SPEAKER_02They're saying right really big hands. They just come up and just grab these ships. I'm telling you, giants are real. Tens of thousands, you know, we should look into that too.
SPEAKER_03Apparently there's one hiding. They call them metal pirates. There's one under Fort Riley, I think, in Kansas.
SPEAKER_02We'll have to look it up.
SPEAKER_03Because there was this guy in Afghanistan who like it uh, I think a whistleblower, but um I'm honestly I'm just using that as a buzzword for someone who like comes out about things, but um, there was this guy who talked about like being in Afghanistan and then flying him to Kansas and like it was under Fort Riley or Fort Leavenworth. Um, and they had a dead giant. I'm gonna write this down.
SPEAKER_02So here's the crazy thing, right? The thing that's crazy is they say they call them metal pirates because they say that they're looking for they said that if it's if it's humans that are doing it, it's metal pirates that are looking for rare metal that's on these ships, pre-nuclear signal protected from radiation and low-grade metals. They use it for medical metal, science, and scientific equipment. But the problem is, how would they take an entire ship? They like it. Yeah, I guess. Um, and another thing that fucking sucks about these ships disappearing is there's these are literally war graves.
SPEAKER_03Bit by bit like ants. But they're taking the whole ship. I know.
SPEAKER_02Like they'd have to have a lot of them. But they're but they're literally these are war graves. Like the veterans that sank in these ships are disappearing with the ships.
SPEAKER_03Well, yes.
SPEAKER_02That's fucking insane, right?
SPEAKER_03Well, you just want them to leave them behind at the bottom of the ocean? Like, oh, that sounds terrible.
SPEAKER_02That's worse. I mean, I don't even I wouldn't even be able to gauge which one I I honestly it's I think leaving them behind would be worse. It's horrible all around. Yeah you know, I mean, but it's so the crazy.
SPEAKER_03So satellites. Imagine if they did that with crime scenes. You get murdered and someone sells the house and your dead bodies chill in there. Well, it's just Aunt Bertha in the closet. You can't move it. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. They used to do that with Victorians. The Victorians, they used to do that for weeks. Real used to dress them up, there is take family photos with the dead bodies.
SPEAKER_01They did, they did. They really Victorians were fucking weird.
SPEAKER_02They were, but you know what? There's also really cool. There are also houses that have cemeteries inside them. You couldn't pay me enough. Actually, you probably could.
SPEAKER_03I mean You could probably pay me enough to live in one of those.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. But um just for the plot. So the crazy thing is, so when they go back and they try to investigate when these things disappeared, they can't they can't see when it happened. They will literally look on the satellites, landsats that will literally show plumes from the disturbed water, but they don't show the actual ship being taken. Ghost ship.
SPEAKER_03I think it's the gay frogs under the water.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. So, anyways, um, but that's that's all I got, you know. So I I mean it's they're everywhere. The fucking aliens are everywhere. But I know that yeah.
SPEAKER_03I don't think it was aliens at the Miami Mall thing, so we can agree to disagree there. We can totally agree to disagree. I definitely think it was like a supernatural thing, but I don't think it was extraterrestrial. I don't know. Like the alien, like the corness thing, that totally makes sense, but what the fuck would they want here? What would they want here? There's nothing in Antarctica, there's nothing to do in Antarctica. That's their like base. I mean, maybe they went to Miami on purpose. They were trying to just see what all the high vacation like they were trying to see what the sales were after Christmas.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Why wouldn't why wouldn't they go to California?
SPEAKER_02That's the thing, like Oh man, I've always wanted to go to Miami though. I think it'd be fine. Maybe they figured it would be safe if they went inside the mall and not by the water.
SPEAKER_03And they were like, oh, there's not that many people here.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_02I do think that one of the things, because I keep thinking about that song where the guy sings about like turning the frogs gay.
SPEAKER_03It wasn't a song, it was a it was a clip of um what's his fucking name? Liberal, liberal, liberal. That guy, that guy, that guy. Alex Jones. Alex Jones. You know he has like probiotics and stuff. He has like a whole line of probiotics. I think we should that guy's such a character. He's so funny though.
SPEAKER_02But what I'm thinking is I think we should look into him because wasn't he talking about like pesticides as well? Fluoride.
SPEAKER_03Fluoride. Okay, so here's the thing. And he was right actually about the gay the frogs turning gay from the fluoride. Yeah. He was actually completely right, but I but everybody thought he was crazy. No, he's not. No, they were just making fun of him. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I don't like a putting chemicals in the water that turned the freaking frogs gay.
SPEAKER_02And they were though. Yeah, they were.
SPEAKER_03And he was just saying he didn't like it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. It's just, well, I don't like it either. Wasn't he a farmer though? But he's a naturalist because he creates his own, like I don't know. He's prebiotic. He's like a really bad person, is what I know. Really? We'll have to look into him.
SPEAKER_03I heard he's like a mega mega Trump supporter.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so what's it? Okay, so what's his name again? Alex Jones?
SPEAKER_03Alex Jones. He's a character though. He's really funny.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So, anyways, this is like gonna be a longer episode than we normally do. I I'm not even gonna lie, there was just so much to talk about. Um, on that note, um, I'm I'm making little towels with spectral homicide on it. And I gotta be honest, since I'm like raw dogging like my embroidery, none of these are straight. It's a little off with us. So um none of my none of my things are perfect, but he's not just a man, he's my wife.
SPEAKER_03I love him. Me too.
SPEAKER_02I love him. So on that note, um, thank you for joining us, and we are looking forward to you joining us next time. I actually think we're gonna have Maddie on here because she had a really good idea.
SPEAKER_03Fuck yeah. I think we should bring the baby on here too. He's got some points. The baby, the baby hunter, yeah, baby hunter.
SPEAKER_02He hunts babies for sport. He does, yeah. So on that note, thanks guys, T T Y L Toodle.
SPEAKER_01Bye.