Touch Me: Can you feel the Reiki energy?

In the latest episode, Claire and Mark discuss their love for Reiki and have a good old gossip about the joys of healing. 

Claire also gives Mark some reiki healing for his carpal tunnel syndrome. 

Claire is a massage therapist, reflexologist, reiki healer, sound bath fanatic and just all round passionate holistic therapist of almost ten years. She can be found at www.holistichandsoftaplow.co.uk 




Mark is a massage therapist, reflexologist, facialist, reiki master and lover of all things Archangels. He also teaches at CityLit in Covent Garden, London and runs his own training school, SURREY SCHOOL OF HOLISTIC THERAPY, offering CPD courses. He can be found at www.surreyschoolofholistictherapy.co.uk

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello. Hello. Welcome to our podcast.

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Can you send that to me?

SPEAKER_00 0:06

I'm Claire.

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And I'm Mark. I was going to say I'm Claire.

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You can do it if you want to. I nearly said and I'm Claire. You put that in the outtake, like last month's outtake.

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And today we are going to talk about.

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We're going to talk about predominantly Reiki, but maybe more just energy healing.

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And energy healing and auras and how much we love it.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Yeah. And different experiences we've had as well.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:32

So what is Reiki, first of all? What's a good definition that you tell your clients?

SPEAKER_00 0:38

It's just the way for me, I think we all work slightly differently as well, of working with energies in the body and sometimes picking up on different areas where energies might be out of kilter. Is that the right word? Yeah, no, I'm balanced, not out of kilter.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

Yeah, I thought I find it most effective on anyone that is having um especially an emotional wobble.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:03

But also it's it is very good for physical ailments.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

Yeah, I've had lots of um success with physical ailments. Um as well. Well, some of them I can't actually say. No, yeah, you can. We can talk about anything on this podcast. No, just um, I don't know, maybe a wrist problem. Someone's had a wrist problem, they've had some bit of carpal tunnel. I should try it on you, shouldn't I? Try it. And the next day it's totally fixed. Um doing it yourself.

SPEAKER_01 1:31

Yeah, because I do do it on yourself.

SPEAKER_00 1:33

Yeah, but I don't I quite often do it more on my body down here. I just place my hands on different parts of my body.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

Because it it part of your Reiki development is about self-healing as well, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 1:45

Yeah. So shall I do a bit on your hand then?

SPEAKER_01 1:47

Yeah, so because I've got a bad carpal tunnel now.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

Oh, something else I was gonna say first of all before we do that. Do you ever feel the energy between your hands? Oh, all the time. Yeah, do you ever do that? Rub your hands together. So people could do this at home if they want to, or yeah. What's so what do they do? Rub your hands together quite briskly. Um, for I don't know, probably enough. And then separate your hands, and then if you try and push your hands together, you'll feel there's a resistance.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Yeah, I can feel like I'm holding it.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Yeah, like a ball. That's what I feel like a ball, and I can actually feel it tingling in my fingertips as well.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

It makes me feel really relaxed as well.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

Yeah, and it just feels like you can't push your hands together even if you wanted to. You've paralysed me. Oh. Should I break the spell?

SPEAKER_01 2:30

It's it actually makes me feel really chilled.

SPEAKER_00 2:33

It's just a I think it's amazing. I think anyone can do it as well, can't they? We'll just hope you break it up.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Anyone can do it, and you can. I I lie on the sofa. I don't know how often I don't do it as often as I probably should.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

No, I think we tend to forget about ourselves, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

We do, but I do it at least I'd say once a week, I lie on the bed and I go through because there's seven chakras in the Reiki teaching, isn't there? Yeah, which is what are the seven? It's a always like crown, third eye, third eye, throat chakra, throat, heart, solar plexus, sacral, and bass.

SPEAKER_00 3:05

Yeah, root. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

Now base or root, yeah. Now that is the one I've got, I shouldn't I can't say too much because it's a client's confidentiality.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:13

But I've got someone who's had a lot of um domestic abuse, and when I do her bass, especially the first few times I had her as a client, she so much tears.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Yeah, she does. I think tears are probably the one of the most common things that I find that come out. You just sometimes start working with somebody, and then literally within 30 seconds, they tears just start flowing, which is good. It's always a safe space to cry anyway.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

And have you ever had it when you've been doing Reiki on someone and even you've had tears in your eyes sometimes?

SPEAKER_00 3:45

Yeah, or I quite often get a cough. I find it in my throat. I suddenly start coughing, which is quite embarrassing sometimes. But it happens because it's something to do with the clearing, apparently. You're sometimes carrying getting rid of their energy for them. Yeah. I think when I when you gave me Reiki last year, I think I got quite emotional, didn't I, at one point? Yeah, you did, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

I gave Claire some Reiki everywhere, yeah, and it really helped her, but she did get emotional.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

And you can't you can't explain why it's suddenly emotional, just suddenly the tears starting.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

I think it's just where you're clearing the energy field. Yeah, because really I describe Reiki as um balancing, it's like a massage for their emotional, spiritual side and mental.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

And Reiki comes out as well, I think, even in massage as well, doesn't it? It does for me and rope toxology.

SPEAKER_01 4:29

Have you been to Japan? No, I really want to go because I uh were you are you of the Macau Yusai lineage? Um you must I think you are because you trained where did you train OSEN with um. Oh, yeah, so you are, yeah, yeah, you are because there's certain um Macau Yusai is a big guy in the Reiki world from Japan, right? He's the originator really of the uh Reiki um therapy, and that's why I always want to go to Japan.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

You're a master as well, not a master.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

I'm a Reiki, I did my Reiki masters last summer, and it really it changed me, yeah. Like it made me much more balanced with in my life, yeah, more in tune. So people won't know about this unless you are a Reiki healer. When you start your Reiki, you get attuned by the Reiki master, don't you? Yes, so the attunement is then there's a process they do balancing your chakras, and there's stuff they blow on you, and um, and you can have a journey. Yeah, I had to do that. Now what was your journey?

SPEAKER_00 5:33

Um I remember going down into a cave, and there was a little bit of water in the cave, like a little sort of pond, and then going through it, going through the water, coming out the other side into like an opening. Everybody's gonna laugh now. I don't know why. Every time we talk, I want to laugh. And then um flying off into the sky. I don't know why the people sometimes, I can't help it. And looking down at everything below me, so what we're shorting, because I'm gonna laugh like no, but I love that, but I only laugh because I love you.

SPEAKER_01 6:11

I mean, just I think even just but I don't know if you get that with me. Sometimes even just hearing your voice, because it cheers me up, I laugh. And I don't know if you feel like that when you hear my voice. Never. Oh, she wants to cry when she Oh god, I laugh again. So that's why you don't answer your phone.

SPEAKER_00 6:29

I've told you what my nickname is, not your nickname you give to me. No, I can't tell you what I call her. No, my family nickname.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

No, what's a wizard? She's been wizard for that's making me think of a wizard's sleeve.

unknown 6:41

What is that?

SPEAKER_01 6:42

Say, oh my god, that's rude, isn't it? That's an innuendo. Yeah, yeah, we can't say that. We've gone down the pan already.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Well, how many minutes are we in there? Six we managed six minutes without having any innuendos. Now they've come out already. Um how did you get into Reiki? How did you discover?

SPEAKER_01 7:01

I got into Reiki because clients used to, when I was doing massage, were saying to me, Mark, you've got an energy in you, and this woman was really into her reiki. She went, Please go and train in Reiki.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

Were you quite unaware of that? Because I was unaware.

SPEAKER_01 7:15

Yeah, I still feel quite unaware of it. Oh, do you? Yeah. I feel much more aware of it now. I read people, but um, oh, we'll talk about always, but we'll talk about that in a minute. Um, but I got into it because of that. My client said, Please go and train. So I thought, do you know what? I might as well. So I went and did my level one, fell in love with the balancing. Yeah. So in my attunement, um it was carry on. Such a bitch.

SPEAKER_00 7:41

Carry on.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

Um, oh, pardon my French. Sunday as well. Um, yeah, I shouldn't swear on a Sunday, the holy day. Um, I had, I felt like um, because the my um Reiki master said, like, ground yourselves. And for me, I felt like I had disco balls under my feet. I know that sounds funny, but it was so true. Like there was disco balls that felt like they were elevating me. Wow. And then I saw um my nan. She was literally in the room. It was I'd never before that day and never since have I ever felt a spirit in the room so clearly. Yeah, I but that day I felt my nan and I cried. Yeah. Oh my god, it was so weird because I just saw her, I knew she was there. She walked behind one of the girls that I was doing the course with, and I was, and then I was like, oh my god, that's my nan. And I cried so bad. But it was a really beautiful experience.

SPEAKER_00 8:37

Um, when I before I learnt Reiki, I actually learnt Pranic Healing a long, long time ago.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

What the hell is pranic healing?

SPEAKER_00 8:44

I have heard of it, but yeah, so pranic healing, there's we work with more chakras. It's a long time ago, it's probably about 11, 12 years ago, I think. So there's more chakras in the 12, yeah. So there's 12 chakras, and there's even more than that. There's mini chakras as well. There's also chakras at the back of the body as well, and you work with um colours as well. So you can send cut, you can work with the white light, but you can also work with colours, so different there's protocols for all different ailments. Um, and then you work with different colours to different areas of the body. So, what's it called pranic? Pranic keeling. Let's look over there, Mark. Look, how is it out there?

SPEAKER_01 9:16

A N I C Pranic Keeling. Yeah, I heard of it, but I don't even know who it was that.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Oh, check my book camera, have a read. Let me show. Oh, it's bloody heavy. It's very heavy.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

My poor card. In case you're watching it, there's the book.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Which one have you picked up?

SPEAKER_01 9:31

I've picked up the miracles.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

I do need my glasses, I haven't.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

I can't take the mic because I've been still. Can I just tell you everyone what happened to me on Friday? I've got to have very focals. 43.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

Did you call them very focals? Oh, what are they then? Very focals. Oh, very focals.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

Very focals. Very focused. I've got very focals. And I'm only 42. I thought it was an old person thing. But I can't read up close anymore. Anything because I've got contact lenses in now. Yeah. So I can't, I I am quite going down a slippery slope now, aren't you? Well, I am 43 this year. Yeah. Well. Um, anyway, so panic he's accurate.

SPEAKER_00 10:13

So um I've just literally just opened the book, and the one that's come up here is is a stiff neck. Yes, stiff neck. Sorry, oh my god, I'm so crowded. Anyway, who can drink it?

SPEAKER_01 10:27

I did have a few glasses of wine last night.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

You're still on it, aren't you? So this is quite a quick one, actually. So basically, for for this, you would scan the throat. Scan the throat, so you you you put your hand like we were doing with the energy, but you you can feel the chakras by sort of and you hover over the well you sort of you might yeah, you sort of go like you push your hand in until you feel like a resistance like a feeling resistance there. That's good. Yeah, I can feel something, yeah. And then you can actually you can actually don't have all the chakras, you can you push your hand until you get a resistance. So you would scan the throat, um, the entire neck, the shoulders, and the armpits.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

Um what and that's to help the stiff neck, is it?

SPEAKER_00 11:08

That's just no, that's just scanning it to be built up there, and then you do some sweeping. So what's sweeping? Sweeping, I can't remember. Um I'm glad that you know.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

I would guess it's this, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 11:19

Well, we do one of the sweepings we do, which you sweep all the way down the bullet. So there's there's five five lines. You start off down the middle one and you get to the bottom, you pull the energy out and check it away, and then the next one. Yeah, I did. Do you flip the energy? Yeah, I do that. Yeah, I do that with reflexology just without really thinking. So I think I sort of do a little bit of a mixture of that and and and reiki, but it just yeah, it just automatically seemed to pull stuff out. And I've had when I've done with clients, I've slapped that again. Yeah, Jesus. You think you're a gambling, go for a ride. I've actually you can feel like you can sort of feel your withdrawing.

SPEAKER_01 11:54

It's cool, it's not I think it's alcohol sweats.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Yeah, you can you can feel the energy being drawn out. Do you ever find it? Oh, I do find it. I think I can make it. You can see it sometimes as well. I think you can see like a darkness sometimes, yeah. And the client can feel it too as well, can't they?

SPEAKER_01 12:08

Yeah, no, definitely. But I love yeah, Reiki, I find really powerful.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

No, I'm gonna have to get back into my pranic hood. Yeah, you can do some pranic because until today. You'd hadn't heard of it.

SPEAKER_01 12:17

And I've not heard that you did it.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

No, back chakra, back sorry, the back solar plexus.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Yeah, because in the uh the typical Reiki, like there's no, we're not talking of any chakras on the back.

SPEAKER_00 12:27

No, it's quite interesting. They're working with different colours as well.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

Who's that man in the back of the boat? That's the man who who um Grandmaster Chow Kotsu. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 12:36

He does a meditation as well, um, which is quite interesting. I do Reiki on my brother's dog. Did you? Yeah, have you ever done it on animals? No, but animals I think are very perspective, uh well not perspective, they're very um well cats pick up, they pick up on things. Like if you're upset, that's the word, yeah. If you're if you're upset, the cat will always won't come and sit on you if you're upset, we wouldn't give a damn about you. But if I was upset, fucking so your pussy would not come for me.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

No, sorry. Oh my god, we're going down a rabbit hole, is that the saying?

SPEAKER_00 13:17

I think so.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

Is it because it's really hot in here?

SPEAKER_00 13:20

Have you got the heating on?

SPEAKER_01 13:22

It's 20 degrees outside.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

Yeah, I think we'll have to get some ventilation.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

We need to when the budget gets higher, we will get some aircon.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

Do we claim that's an expense?

SPEAKER_01 13:31

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

Okay, we'll get some air con.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

Anyway, my brother's dog, she's quite quite wild. Um, she barks at aeroplanes, yeah. But the only time that she is calm, I go round. Um I love, oh that reminds me of are you being served, Mrs. Slocan. Oh, I love that show. Did you like are you being serious? I do love it. I know when I am such a baby. But she's anyway, she barks at aeroplanes, she barks at everything. If one any next door neighbour's door goes, she barks. Yeah, I go round, she's normally quite calm. And then as she comes and sits on me, and I normally place my hand on her head, like the crown chakra, um, she hardly moves. Like all my like my my brother and everyone are normally quite shocked because like she just sits there and lets me just hold her, so I have my hand on her head. Oh, I can really feel your crown chakra. I'm doing a demonstration of how I do it on my friends.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

Can you see my aura?

SPEAKER_01 14:30

Why you're even gonna talk about it?

SPEAKER_00 14:32

Yeah, we'll come back to that.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

Um, but anyways, so it's really good for the dog as well.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

But then also cats as well. My cat. You've done it on your cats, actually. No, um, they don't always like everyone that comes to the house, so they're fine with you, for instance. Someone came the other week, the gas man came and they're straight upstairs hiding.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Animals are really like because dogs always love me. That was always my problem before I got married.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

You said it.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Um now I've got a pedigree with my husband.

SPEAKER_00 15:06

Yeah, I was gonna, you've totally blown me away though. Sorry, right.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

What about the gas man? You had the gas man around to talk your pipes out.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

It was after that, though, because the cat had done a runner, but they they just basically just pick up on on senses, don't they? They pick up on emotions.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

Isn't there something they say about cats?

SPEAKER_00 15:24

Oh, but that's right. They see things, yeah, they feel energy, they see spirits and things. I think they see spirits as well.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

No, I think they do, yeah, because they can like be really wary of a certain room or they their hair stick up for something. Like, I don't know, because I don't, I'm not a cat, I'm more of a dog.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

When you were saying about making anyone, I had a couple of experiences in here where treatments are like and uh there was just suddenly a really cold draft came through the room. I just got a shiver. I thought I got chills. They went to play. Yeah, so just this total um chill came through the room, and then we stopped the treatment because the guy wanted to stop. We carried on the chill. Yeah, it was someone coming to visit him, someone that was um uh someone had passed away, but somebody else was very, very ill, and they came to give a message, and about three times this coldness came to the room, and I quite often get a coldness on that side of the room as well. Really? Maybe the rake is on that side, maybe that is why.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

I do love Reiki. Do you ever use crystals with it? I do. Occasionally, I just love my crystals. My husband has banned me from getting any crystals. You see my bowl out there. You've got massive crystals out there, but my um you've got massive crystals, darling. Um, but my my Finner said no more crystals. I've got them in the lounge in the kitchen.

SPEAKER_00 16:40

They're like a big sweetie bowl, aren't they? Sometimes I'll put them all in a big bowl.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

Um, but let's talk about auras actually, because I see colours, do you? On clients.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

Yeah. So I'm now looking. Oh, I guess yours is just blue.

unknown 16:53

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 16:54

Go back, go back. So I can only see it with certain she's staring at it. It's like a electric blue, so I can only see it with certain backgrounds. I can't see if you were the wrong. Yeah, it's like a like a turquoisey blue. If you were looking behind that wall, I wouldn't be able to see it, but turquoisey blue, I think, is like a healing colour, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Yeah, I'm not trained in colours, so I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

Yeah, I think from the pranic healing point, that's where I learnt about the orbers was from pranic healing.

SPEAKER_01 17:17

I might, I'm gonna Google that.

SPEAKER_00 17:19

And even looking round, if you in a if you look around the television, you can I can always see like a like uh a quite a wide edge around it where the electricity, where the aura is around the tissue. Everything's got energy, hasn't it? Whether it be a page everything.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

I can feel it in your bed even on the mass up, yeah. Yeah, I can I can there's an energy field around that.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

Is it good energy or bad energy? I feel like no, I can feel energy around things, yeah. Yeah, you'd have to, if it was a sunny day outside, I'd take you outside. That's the best time I've had weekends. And um I can see quite often around the trees, I can see an aura. You ever notice that? No, if you get a blue sky and look sort of beyond the tree, and you can see like the energy from the tree, and also the prana in the sky as well.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

Sometimes I see it just around people, maybe.

SPEAKER_00 18:04

Yeah, so can you see me at all?

SPEAKER_01 18:06

Yeah, I I yours is a m a blur today. Messy one, isn't it? Yeah, it's like you need help. Um, but now seriously, I can see it's merging like I'm getting yeah, it's getting yellow, but I'm also getting blue. But like I said, turquoise.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

Oh, good, because yours is turquoise. Is it?

SPEAKER_01 18:25

It's still turquoise, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

I thought you said it was an electric blue. Well, it's turquoise, it's more turquoise. Keep still. Oh, it's black now. Oh, lovely.

SPEAKER_01 18:34

No, it's like I've got no soul. I'm joking. Um, no, I can see turquoise.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

I'm I'll still clap. Sorry, that I thought I was in a I thought I was um in a cover. That was my clapperboard. Can I do an oracle card on you?

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Have you got like squares in front of your camera?

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Yeah. What is that?

SPEAKER_01 18:52

It's a grid so we can make sure we're oh I thought you had a cracked screen.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

Oh, so cracks in my screen, right?

SPEAKER_01 19:01

So what have you got here? I'm shuffling my cards. She's picked up something some cards. She always brings everything into these recordings. I've been quite good today. I thought I've got four books.

SPEAKER_00 19:12

Yeah, and you've even picked up one of my books, have you?

SPEAKER_01 19:14

I picked up the Pranic Healing, thank you. Oh right, so what are you shuffling?

SPEAKER_00 19:18

I'm shuffling my oracle cards, and I'm gonna read out what it says on there. So this is one well, actually, I'm gonna get you to pick one.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

Oh my god, as I'm picking up some I love my angel cards. I'll do anything.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

So these are by Rebecca Campbell.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

I've not heard of Rebecca Campbell. Oh, they love they're so pretty. So what they're called Work Your Light Oracle Cards Guidebook. Okay, there's a lot of words there. We won't bother reading all the words, right? Okay, right. So I pick a card. Do I so I'm gonna pick a card, everyone? That one's drawing to me by the case. Well, it's sticking out, I think so too.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

It's sticking out for a reason. Yeah, that's not always the case.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

So my card says Warrior Woman. Have you answered your deepest calling?

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Have you?

SPEAKER_01 19:59

Oh my god, what read it to what that means. Warrior woman. So I've picked out Warrior Woman.

SPEAKER_00 20:05

Oh, it's still warm in here, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 20:07

Um you fan me. Let me fan you. Here you go. You're like Cleopatra. She got fans.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

Warrior 56. 56.

SPEAKER_01 20:16

Right, tell me what this means. I'm on I'm on the edge of my seat. It's a lot. Oh no, it's not too bad.

SPEAKER_00 20:20

You are here for a reason. You are being called to bravely pave a path. To what? Oh, bravery. If you could fix my path while you're going down it. Have you answered your highest and deepest calling? Living a heart and soul-led life is not all fluffy and smooth sailing. Living heart. No, leaving a heart and soul-led require life requires courage to triumph over fear. So often our fears are the gatekeepers to our greatest gifts, yeah? And the more resistance we have towards answering a call, the more important it is to our soul's growth. Sometimes fear is an indication that we are facing the right way. Joan of Art was known for her courage. So I'm like Joan of Clark. I'm gonna start calling you Joan now. Alright, Joan?

SPEAKER_01 21:01

Joanie. I love Joan Collins.

SPEAKER_00 21:03

There you go. Um, I'm not afraid, I was born to do this, but the thing about courage is that it's not possible without fear. So if you are feeling afraid, what is needed is courage, and the courage comes from living from the heart. Have you answered your deepest calling? Do you know what?

SPEAKER_01 21:18

That is so relevant because even though I love what I do and I feel really confident. No, no, no, but I feel really confident. Sometimes I get bad imposter syndrome.

SPEAKER_00 21:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:30

Um, I think we all do that, don't we? Yeah, yeah. And with my teaching sometimes, especially.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

Oh, I did a course for you last week, didn't I?

SPEAKER_01 21:35

Yes, she did her manual emphatic training training.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

Excellent. Great turn out, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01 21:40

Thank you. I'll pay you later for saying that. Um, but no, so um, but it's actually this is this is I have answered this is my call in in life. I was put on this earth.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

I'll take a picture of that for you to take home. You can't take the cart home.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

No, but please take it. But I was put on this earth to um heal people, I think. Honestly, I know that sounds a bit wacky, but I actually truly Was put on this earth to heal people with massage, raking, reflexology, and now teaching as well. I was put here to help train the future generations as well.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

And I don't know if you've seen much in the press recently about more about complimentary therapies being accepted by the NHS.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

Yeah, I think they should be much more.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

Yeah, there was something last week about social prescribing about trying to get massage. I think so. What's social prescribing me? It's um from my understanding, it's when rather than people just going down the, like we said before, going down the medication route with certain things, it's going out the community doing things to things like gardening things in amongst outside to help themselves rather than just being on a prescribing route and also with touch as well. Touch is a healing thing as well, isn't it? Oh, so much.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

I have my massage every three.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Does that make you feel good?

SPEAKER_01 22:48

Just be touching those touch me.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

Touch you more.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

That reminds me of that song, touch me, and then just kiss me. No, I can't get no, not gonna no, no, no, no, no, you're not the right gender anyway. No, um, but no, I honestly believe, don't you think? I think if NHS put massage and other complimentary therapies as preventative, definitely, because I do you I because you have regular treatments as well, don't you? And do you notice the difference when you don't have it? Yeah, definitely, yeah. Because I've had to miss my massage for two months now, because I've just been so busy, yeah, and I've noticed the difference. My neck's a bit stiffer, my hips out of alignment again, whereas regular treatments keep me balanced.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

They um they do include it in sort of oncology, don't they?

SPEAKER_01 23:28

Yeah, it's in like hospices, canters, cancer centres.

SPEAKER_00 23:33

It's strange that they'll accept it in there, but they won't accept it just in normal everyday.

SPEAKER_01 23:38

Because you know what I said to some students yesterday because I was teaching No, I wasn't there. I know I'm psychic, but sarcastic today, aren't you? Um I was teaching gua shar body massage yesterday, and I said What's Gua Shar body massage? Gua shar is a special tool that they use to scrape um the skin. You can use it on your face, but also it's used on the body to help remove stagnation of blood, um, the qi that they call it, um, improve tension, chronic pain, inflammation sort of different information. But anyway, that's not um that's not what you talk about, are we? No, you always managed to put me on the.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:14

Why do you have to why does the NHS wait for someone just to get cancer to then give them that um treatment on the NHS? Like, I think it should be available much more widely to um help.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Because it doesn't make money, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

But medicines and we'll get very political. No, we won't discuss that. Let's not get too political.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

No, right, can you gonna pull a quick one for me?

SPEAKER_01 24:36

Yeah, I want to right, we're gonna pull a card for um shuffle them and see if one jumps out. Yeah, don't come.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

One of my clients calls me a witch, so it's not far from the truth. In a nice way to he on a nice way.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

You spelt it wrong. You miss it. No, right, bitch, pick a so kind.

SPEAKER_02 24:59

Right, bitch tits, pick it cards.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

Oh god, I used to call my sister that's her nickname when she was younger. She calls me Queenie. Well, at least that's yeah, right. Right, anyway, sorry, we're getting distracted. So she's picking an oracle card.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

Oh, that one.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

Is that the one that drew it out to you?

SPEAKER_00 25:21

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

What does it say?

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Am I reading it out? No, I'm gonna. Anna, grandmother of Jesus. Seeding the light, laying foundations, divine path. So there's a little index at the front.

SPEAKER_01 25:31

Right, so back.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

There we go. It might be on other page.

SPEAKER_01 25:36

Anna, grandma of grandmother of Jesus. What pages 86?

SPEAKER_00 25:40

I'm not 88.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Is that hard?

SPEAKER_00 25:42

They're pretty though, aren't they? I didn't show the card to anyone. Oh, yeah. Here's my card.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

They're pretty. So yours is so Anna was an ancient mystic who dedicated her life to laying the foundations for Christ consciousness to be woven all through her life. She is not widely known, but without her, Christ consciousness would not be rising as it is today. So for you, it represents the quiet dedication that is sometimes required to live a life of service. She represents the generations that came before that devoted their lives to dreaming a new world into being while knowing that they would not see the glorious end result. She represents the dutiful soldier, the unconditional mother. And the mystic I'm not your mother, though. No, but I just see the thread that is woven all through her life. So you need to take from this. Anna teaches you that you have a part to play in the divine plan. It doesn't have to be on the world stage to be significant.

unknown 26:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

One person's part is not worthier than another. One person's part may be to mother their children, another's maybe to gather women in a circle each month. I feel like this resonates for you as well. Like because it's for the mother's healing. Yeah. Because it's not just talking about mother as if you've got your own children, is it? Mother to, yeah, that's mother to child, to cats, to your clients.

SPEAKER_00 27:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Because my clients like look to me, even though they don't look to you as a mother, do they? No, because I'm not a mother, but they could look to me as a father. I was gonna say something. They could call me daddy. Oh god, um, but no, I think that um that's you get that, they're lovely.

SPEAKER_00 27:26

I've got three of these books. The three of the sets are lovely. Smack it again, real smacking with it.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

Smacky today. No, um, have you got any angel cards? No, because I love my angel cards, and I started doing angel readings now, I've got really good at it.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

Oh, you did a course on that, didn't you?

SPEAKER_01 27:40

Yeah, last year I did my angel practitioner training. Um, and now I do card readings as well.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

I was gonna say, I was gonna talk about this book, Hands of Life. Somebody gave this to me, somebody I used to work with. Who's it by? It's by um Barbara Ann Brennan. I've never seen that book, but I'm really drawn to it. Janice, if you're watching, it's your book. I love her book, but it's got lots of who did you just talk to? Medical Janice. Oh, is that who gave you the book? Yeah, I used to work with her, she's a reiki master. Oh, look, there's the chakras. Interesting picture.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

Well, that is an interesting picture.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:11

And look, oh look, the third eye chakra here is called the four heads.

SPEAKER_00 28:14

We call it the third eye, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 28:16

Third eye. That's that's moved on a bit then. Is that yours? Because she's got all post-it notes stuck throughout it.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

Yes, I think that was me at some point. Yeah, no, there may actually be what Janet had put in there.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

So, what do you think? I do like it.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

I like the colourful pictures.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

Yeah, it's very nice actually.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

That's an interesting picture, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 28:35

I love a book. That one if you can see that if you're watching. Somebody on a bed. I love books, especially about the industry therapy.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

No, that's good. That's a good book, that one.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Yeah, that's good. I've got a really good Reiki book, so I didn't bring any of them.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

You didn't bring any today to do, we're not organised.

SPEAKER_01 28:51

I wasn't organised because I had a drink last night.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

Just the one?

SPEAKER_01 28:54

No. I had a few, I had a few glasses or two, or two, or three, or four. That's why you're so maybe five. I know I've got the alcohol sweats.

SPEAKER_00 29:01

No, it's cooled down a bit now. Cooled down.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Um, but no, I've got some really good Reiki books and I love reading about it. Yeah, and it's so good for so many ailments. I know we talked about that already. Oh, you did you do my hand? You promised.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

I did it when you're out there, do you notice? I'll do it now.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Yeah, do it now. So she's giving me some Reiki round my carpal tunnel, round my wrist. Oh my god, can you feel that? Okay, yeah. Yeah. So when she's touching me, um I'm not touching you.

SPEAKER_00 29:26

Do you touch or do you hover?

SPEAKER_01 29:27

I touch. I was taught to touch.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

I don't want to touch you, that's where you've been.

SPEAKER_01 29:31

I was taught to um lay my hands. Not you don't put much pressure, you just lay the hand on my hands. Yeah, and I know some places do hover, but can you feel that's tingling in my fingers? So when she's holding her hand, tingling across my shoulders, across here.

SPEAKER_00 29:44

I don't know why I'm tingling. You're sending it back to me.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

God, I'm really tingling hard on my fingers. I need this Reiki, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 29:53

I'll bill you afterwards. Can you feel that? I feel the heat, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:58

So I am feeling um, for me, I'm feeling real tingling going on through my hand.

SPEAKER_00 30:04

I'm getting tingling across top of my shoulders across here.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

Are you feeling any energy from your hands?

SPEAKER_00 30:09

So much heat.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

I could go to sleep. My hand's shaking, don't I? I could go to sleep right now.

SPEAKER_00 30:15

Not night. I read your bedtime story.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

I'm going to sleep night.

SPEAKER_00 30:19

Night.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

I'm lying on her shoulder. Anyway, I think that's it from us today.

SPEAKER_00 30:24

I'm tired.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

I'm going to sleep now. She's giving me some rake.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

A cup of tea, glass of milk and bedtime.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Hot milk, please. Anyway, so we'll see you next time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:34

Where can we find you? Pop on the chair.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

You can find me on a chair once a month filming this podcast.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

Um, what's the name of your school, Mark?

SPEAKER_01 30:43

Surrey School of Holistic Therapy. And what is the name of your business?

SPEAKER_00 30:47

My business is called Holistic Hands and Taplo, Mark.

SPEAKER_01 30:50

Claire. Um, anyway, we'll see you again next time and look after yourselves.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

Bye.