Why We Love Star Wars: The Psychology Behind the Obsession

In this special episode of Once Upon a Session, Vanessa and Nareesa break down the emotional and psychological layers behind some of the most iconic characters in Star Wars. From complicated parent-child dynamics to identity, loss, and the pull between light and dark, nothing is off-limits.

Because let’s be honest… this isn’t just a space opera.

It’s trauma, attachment, and generational patterns in a cloak. Whether you’re a lifelong fan or just here for the chaos, this episode brings clinical insight, relatable moments, and just enough banter to keep things grounded.

Because even in a galaxy far, far away…the patterns still follow.

Disclaimer: We’re licensed therapists, but not your therapists. This podcast is for reflection and conversation, not a substitute for therapy.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:13

Why are people this obsessed with Star Wars?

SPEAKER_00 0:16

Like generations of people. People who have seen the same movies 20 times and still cry at the same scenes. Yeah. Because it's not just a story. It's emotional trauma in space. With lightsabers. And who just watched it 20 times?

SPEAKER_01 0:36

Like, I've seen it a million times.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Yeah. Yeah, right. The limit does not exist. Yeah. This is Once Upon a Session, where two therapists turn their TPR pile into treatment plans. And every story becomes a session. And today we're taking our session to a galaxy far, far away. Alright, just a quick note before we dive in. We're both licensed therapists, but we're not your therapist. Everything we share here is for conversation, reflection, and maybe a little inspiration.

SPEAKER_01 1:08

But it's not a substitute for therapy. If you're struggling, please reach out to a mental health professional who can give you the care and support you deserve.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Now that you're all checked in, have a seat on our couch. Oh my god, guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Oh my god, guys. We just spent like 10 minutes trying to just record our disclaimer because we couldn't stop laughing. And it was the greatest moment ever. And maybe one day in the future we'll have blooper reels or something. Yeah. Alright. It's our first special episode. Oh yeah. Episode. Special episode. Episode. Alright, so let's check in. What's going on? Yeah. Yeah, what's going on? I don't know. Here we are. Oh my god, we went to BookCon. Oh my god. Hello. Was that like two weeks ago already? I don't know. The last time we were like it's two weeks from now. Now it's yeah, it's been about two weeks. Yeah. BookCon was fun. I enjoyed it. That was my first time at BookCon. Yeah. Like, I don't know. Yeah, I enjoyed it too. I thought it was good. Like I was miserable walking around the first day, not gonna lie. But um, yeah, it was cool. It was just nice to be around our people. Yeah, yeah. I like seeing people dress up and saw a couple bat boys out there. Yeah, we did, we did.

SPEAKER_02 2:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

But yeah, and we went to a panel with Rachel Gillick.

SPEAKER_02 2:57

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Carissa Broadbent, I think. And there were a couple of other authors. Sorry, I forgot names. Yeah, I was really only listening to Rachel. Yeah, right. But that was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

Oh, but we got Carissa's signature.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

Oh yeah, your sister did it, of course. Her signature. Yeah. Yeah, that was cool. That was fun. That was nice. We were handing out our bookmarks.

SPEAKER_01 3:28

Oh, and someone out. Like, we have some people helping us. Like, they like were helping us hand out our stuff.

SPEAKER_00 3:37

Our merch bitches. Oh no, our merch bitches were Amy and Allison. You mean like Black Book Comp. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amy and Allison and Roche. Yeah. Okay. Thank you all. Thank you all. But Amy was still the best. Amy was the Roche. Oh no, Roche. Yeah, Roche and the Bach. It was a time.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

They came on different days. So they won each day. Roshay.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

I actually did like pick it up during the second portion of book. Okay, okay, good. Sorry, Roche. I redeemed myself. Um, yeah. What else is going on? That's pretty much pretty much it. Yeah. What are we reading? Oh, I'm Queen of Shadows now. We're both caught up. We're in the same book, yes. Uh, Era Fire was so good on a different level. I appreciated it on a different level this time. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

I appreciated reading Assassin's Blade wrong. You know, reading the order wrong, but like reading it there, it was beautiful that way. And now I'm gonna see like pick back up from kind of like where I left off when I because I read Air of Fire and then Assassin's Blade. So yeah, now I'm picking back up and it feels good and it feels closer, like the timeline is closer than I thought it was. Oh wow, okay because it's like this just happened for her, and like she's doing all this, like Sam literally just happened.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

Yeah, yeah. Actually, now that I'm looking at it, like picking it back up. It was just that year in Endovir. Yeah, that was it. So it was still it was just she left literally right after that, and yeah. Oh man, it's so good. Yeah, so good. Well, you know, on to more important things. This is our first special edition episode.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

Once upon a special.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

Yeah, Once Upon a Session special. And yeah, we're talking about Star Wars guys if you haven't heard that. So yeah, let's talk about it. When was your first time watching Star Wars?

SPEAKER_01 5:52

My first time watching Star Wars, like seriously, like taking it seriously and like actually sitting through an episode. Right. Um somewhere around like 2013. Okay. I think it was like, no, maybe 2014, whatever, sometime around 2014-ish.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

But yeah. Like taking it seriously, and I fell in love with it. Like, and the person that made me watch it, like, they're like, shout out to Bleep. Is that hey bleep? No, um, the person that made me watch it made sure I watched it in the order, like of one, two, three, right, and like that. So I didn't care too much about Luke, you know, because like whatever. Right, you know, but um I fell in love with it. I was like, I could have been watching this this whole time.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

I never gave it a chance because I thought it was like Star Trek, and I was like, I don't really like those things. Oh my god, remember last week, last week, whenever we were at BookCon, Roshea was like, These are people y'all be watching. Yeah, and I was like, Roshey, I'm gonna tell your sister to give you an Star Wars and Star Trek are not the same. That was so funny. It's okay, Roshay. Yeah, but yeah. Yeah, okay. I think I watched it for the first time maybe around like 2020, so like fairly recent. Um I also fell in love with it. Uh like I didn't know, like I knew characters, like I've heard of Vader and Luke and Leia and whatever, but I didn't know what role they played in the story. So as I'm watching it, like I'm really experiencing like plot twists and shocks. And like when Vader told Luke he was his dad. Sorry guys, we're spoiling honestly. If you don't even know what's travelers, I'm not even gonna entertain, just unfollow and log off. But yeah, even when he revealed he was his dad, I was I was shocked, like, and it sounds so stupid now, like saying it's like what order did you watch it in? Didn't I tell you to watch it in the corruption? Yeah, I watched episode one, two, three, and then four, five, six. Oh, okay. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, when I didn't know that Anakin had two babies and it was Luke and Leia, like you know what I mean? This was all new information to me, yeah. So I was like, wow, this isn't just some like sci-fi like there's a storyline, there's a backstory, there's all of that. So yeah, so your favorite character. Uh I don't have a favorite character. Oh my god, gun to your head. Gun to my head, I might be dead. Okay. Because like I love Qui-Gon, I love C3PO. Yeah, yeah. I love Vader. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

You know, like I love Obi-Wan. Like, I can't. I can't, and I won't. And you won't make me. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

What have I done? Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's fair. What about you? I like it would have to be Anakin, honestly, if I have to pick. Just because I love him. I just love him. I loved his whole story. From when he was a young lad all the way to his demise. Yeah. Yeah. No, I can't. Yeah. I know.

unknown 9:41

I know.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

I know. I I know you love Qui-Gon. Like like you just love all of them in a different way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. By the way, we have matching Star Wars tattoos. Like, I have R2D2, and she has C3 POs, so like best friends.

unknown 10:00

Doop doop doop doop doop doop.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

Okay. So today we're not breaking down one character. We're breaking down why this entire universe has such a hold on people. Because why are we emotionally attached to something set in space? And why does it still hit every time? Every single time. Also, just to say, we've seen all the movies and most of the spin-offs. But for today, we're keeping it to episode one through six with some honorable mentions from the spin-offs. Yeah, and don't hate us, but like we saw the last three movies, but we don't really care for them that much.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

Yeah, I don't like the new weird. Like, I'm not even gonna say weird. I don't like the new stuff. Like, I'm a classic six. Yeah. And then the Obi-Wan.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

Right. Because like he put that in the middle and it's like Chef's fucking kiss. Chef's kiss. I was actually watching that yesterday. And just oh my god, if you guys haven't seen the Obi-Wan, the series, please. Oh my god. Especially if you love Anakin and Thaider and Obi-Wan, that whole storyline. So yeah, check it out. Okay. Okay, so before we get into the chaos, we need to talk about why people are so emotionally attached to this story. Because it's not just about space, it's about human experiences, just dramatized. On the surface, Star Wars is very good versus evil. But what actually pulls people in is how close the two feel. Star Wars isn't just about heroes versus villains, it's about the internal battle between fear versus trust, anger versus control, love versus attachment. Because it's not really about I would never do that. It's I could see how someone gets there. Yeah, so some examples of that is like um Anakin struggling between love and fear and Revenge of the Sith. Yeah. Yeah. That was rough. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then Luke almost giving into anger. Mm-hmm. Return of the Jedi. Yeah. And then Vader hesitating before saving Luke too.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

Cause like what yeah. Just being torn, right? Yeah. And in real life, that kind of translates to like reacting emotionally versus intentionally. Um, and making decisions and moments of like feeling overwhelmed, which like we've all been there. We've all done that. Yeah. The line between who we are and who we could become is thinner than we think. Yeah. So Star Wars is big on destiny. Like you were meant for something. The chosen one idea taps into identity, pressure, meaning. Yeah. So like some examples of that is like Anakin being labeled the chosen one. You know, and like meanwhile, I'm watching it and I'm like, oh my god, he's gonna do like great things and save everyone and be a hero. And like, whatever, he's yeah, Vader, you know. But yeah, like uh that he wasn't him, yeah. Wait, I'm confused.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

So when you watched it, you watched the um when he was a baby first, right? Yeah, okay, okay. I'm just making sure.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

Yeah, when he was a little guy. I'm just saying, right? Yeah. They were saying he was the chosen one, yeah. And then like you find out he's not the chosen one because it's Luke, right? I don't know. You don't know. I feel like Anakin was the chosen one, right? But he I thought he wasn't actually the actual chosen one, because isn't the chosen one supposed to save the Jedi or whatever? Well, in a way he kind of did. How?

SPEAKER_01 14:02

He's fucking dirt.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

He gave birth to Luke, and Luke is the one who saved the Jedi. I mean, I guess you're right, because he also like could have killed Luke, but he didn't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was just trying to follow his heart. Yeah. Well, like, exactly, and that's the next point. Um, Luke wanting a life beyond Tatooine. Exactly. And then like expectations placed onto Anakin.

SPEAKER_01 14:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:36

Mm-hmm. Purpose chosen one. Yeah. I think everyone wants their life to mean something. Even if we don't say it out loud. Sometimes the pressure to be meant for something becomes the thing that breaks you. Okay, so redemption. This one, this is why people don't let Star Wars go. Because Darth Vader should not be redeemable.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

And yet, the story pushes that idea that no one is too far gone. Like Luke refusing to give up on Vader, Vader saving Luke, and Anakin returning at the end.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

Oh, yeah. Because people want to believe that about themselves.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

That even if you mess up, you're not done.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

Yeah, in real life, that's like regret, guilt, wanting to change. Yeah. We don't just love redemption stories. We need them. Yeah. Absolutely. And I love the redemption for everybody there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:37

Okay. So family and legacy. This entire saga is literally one big family situation.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

And it's messy. Yeah. Everything in Star Wars is shaped by family roles, expectations, generational impact. They are one big family. Yeah. And that was a shocker for me. Again. Yeah, but so, like you said, like the I am your father situation. I'm your father. Yeah. Anakin's choices affecting Luke. Yeah, and Luke confronting his father's legacy. Yeah. Family dynamics don't stay in the past. They show up in everything. In real life, inherited patterns, expectations, breaking cycles. You don't just inherit a name, you inherit patterns. Yeah, that's so true.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Okay. Belonging, found family. Outside of family, there's also chosen family.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

And that's what makes it feel safe. Star Wars shows connection through trust, shared experiences, and loyalty. And some examples of that are like Luke, Leia, and Han, which was like such an interesting uh combination. Yeah, Han was wild. Oh, I like him. Yeah, I just remembered how much I liked him. I like him. Yeah. The Rebel Alliance, and then Obi-Wan mentoring Luke. That was beautiful. Yeah. Old Ben. Yeah. Hold then. Everyone wants people who feel like home. And not everyone finds that in their actual family.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

Like in real life, you see that in friendships, community, and chosen support systems.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

Sometimes the people who save you aren't the ones you started with.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Yeah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

Okay. Then there's emotional control versus expression. This one is very therapist-coded.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Like this is literally emotional regulation. So the two extremes, like the Jedi who suppress emotions and the Sith who are consumed by emotions. Yeah. Um I'm definitely a Sith then. But it's interesting how like I'm definitely a Jedi. Yeah. Yeah. Wow, we're even the opposite there. Yeah, it's just interesting how like when I remember when like was it Yoda telling Anakin like don't like don't hold on to things that you care about, or whatever you guys know what I mean. Um being told to detach. Yeah, and I was like, what? That's crazy. Like what? Then what is your purpose? You know? So yeah, that was interesting.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

Um, and exactly, Anakin being told to detach, Yoda emphasizing control, and Anakin failing because he can't regulate fear. So yeah. Yeah. Most people live somewhere in between. And struggle to find that balance. And in real life, that comes out as battling emotions, emotional reactivity, and learning regulation. It's not about having no emotions, and it's not about letting them control you. So when you look at all of this, it makes sense why people are so attached. Because it's not just a story, it's human experiences just amplified. Yeah. Right, yeah. Now, why we see ourselves in it.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

Yeah. Okay, but I think the real reason this sticks is because we've experienced versions of this in real life.

SPEAKER_00 19:20

Yeah, so like loving someone who's changing. Watching Anakin become someone completely different. And still hoping they'll come back. Yeah. Oh my god. That was heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

So it's so easy for anyone watching it to see themselves in that because it's just, you know, relationships where someone changes, holding on to who they used to be. You're not grieving the person, you're grieving who they were.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

Yeah, that was just heartbreaking. I would have been so torn. Anyway, um, ignoring what you already know. Padme really said, I see it, but I don't see it. Yeah, and that's very real life. Yeah, like ignoring your gut, staying for potential. Yeah. Yeah. That's the worst. I'm the queen of that. I used to be the queen of that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, sometimes clarity is there. We just don't want it yet.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Avoiding hard conversations. Obi-Wan definitely sends something. But didn't fully confront it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Avoiding conflict, hoping things resolve themselves. Not addressing something doesn't stop it. It lets it grow.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Yeah. Making decisions from fear.

unknown 20:43

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 20:44

Anakin didn't fall because he was evil. He fell because he was afraid.

SPEAKER_02 20:49

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

That whole thing, like, talk about pain in the plot. Oh my god. Oh, we'll get to it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, control-based decisions, fear of loss. Fear makes you act fast, but not always wisely. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Then there's believing in someone's potential. Luke believed in Vader. Yeah, that was a dangerous one. Like thank you, Luke, for having faith because I don't know. Yeah, that would have turned out. Yeah. So yeah, again, staying for potential, confusing hope with safety. Believing in someone isn't the same as being safe with them. Well, yeah, that's so true. Trying to be who you're supposed to be. I think that's so easy for people to relate to. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Anakin trying to be what everyone expected. And losing himself in the process, of course. Yeah. And then the people can relate in real life by like people pleasing and identity shaped by expectations. And trying to be You're supposed to be can cost you who you are. Yeah. Yeah. So when you look at all that, it stops being about Star Wars. And starts being about people. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just so many things. Because like you think about like why people just watch it.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

Like people have different reasons for watching Star Wars.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:24

And I don't know. Like sometimes I like to watch it at Christmas or like you know, like if I'm sick or something like that. But I wonder why you know other people like to watch it.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

Yeah. Like if they resonate with certain parts. Yeah. Right. And then it also depends like what state of mind you're in. Like what you might notice something that you didn't notice last time. Yeah. You know. Um. And again, the storyline, it's so complex.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:55

And you know, you gotta really actually watch it quite a few times to get every to even understand like everything that's going on. Yeah. Yeah. As we watch it right now. It's in the background. Yeah. Um, so treatment team meeting. Yeah, we have a lot to say about this. So if they walked into our office. What are we clocking immediately? Oh my god. I would go crazy, first of all. Okay. Okay, Anakin. Attachment issues. Severe. Yeah, fear of loss and control for sure. And control and destruction. Yeah. Emotion regulation and grief work immediately. Yeah, that would be a great intervention. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Padme. Denial. Like advanced denial. Yeah. Seeing red flags and choosing hope anyway. God bless her though.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

Intervention. Reality testing and boundary setting.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

Yeah. That's a good one. Obi-Wan Kenobi. Avoidance. Emotional restraint to a fault. Yeah, he felt it, but he didn't address it again. Yeah. Um, intervention, direct communication, and emotional expression. Yeah. Speak up. Yeah. Yoda. Oh, suppression disguises wisdom. Oh, he's. Do not feel is not therapy. That's repression. Intervention, balanced emotional processing.

SPEAKER_02 24:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:38

Oh, Yoda. Alright, Luke. Hopefully but risky. I can save him energy. Yeah, for sure. For sure. And sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. Intervention, discernment between hope and self-protection. Yeah. That sounds about right. Darth Maul. Oh man. I think they recently came out with a show about him. But it's like animated, not live. Maybe I gotta check it out. Because I always wanted his backstory. But anyway, um pure trauma response. No regulation, just vibes. Intervention is everything. Just go start from the beginning. Yeah. Oh, C3PO. I would just be like, it's us, it's me, it's us. Anxiety. Alright. Chronic. Yeah. Catastrophizing everything. It's still showing up. Yeah, that's totally you. Yep. Intervention, anxiety management, and grounding techniques. Is that what you do? Yeah. In real life. Love that. Alright. Oh, it's R2D2. It's me, emotionally stable king. That's a lot. Loki, the most regulated one there. Handles everything, says nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Intervention. Honestly, he's the support system. Yeah. Oh. Oh my god. I don't think I can handle this one. Okay, you want me to do that? No. I mean, like if he walked in. Oh yeah. Qui-gon Jin. Oh- Qui-Gon is intuitive. Yeah, trusts himself over the system. But also political I know best energy. Yeah, because he does. Yeah, he does. You're right. He's the OG. Intervention, balancing intuition with collaboration.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:31

Yeah. Leia. Hyper independent. Carries everything. And doesn't ask for help. Intervention, letting herself receive support. Yeah, yeah. Agreed. Agreed. Oh, so low. He's avoidant. Emotionally unavailable at first. And definitely uses humor to deflect. Yeah. Intervention would be vulnerability work for sure. Yeah. Twaka. I wouldn't understand the word he was saying. But he is loyal to a fault. Yeah. Carries grief quietly. He does. Yeah. Emotional support, but who supports him? Yeah. Poor guy. Intervention, processing grief and emotional expression. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 27:16

Palpatine. Ugh. Manipulation. Control. Thrives on vulnerability clearly. Because you just preyed on that poor Anakin. Poor, poor Annie. Yeah, intervention. We're not even starting therapy. We're calling it.

SPEAKER_01 27:30

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 27:32

Get out of my face. Mm-hmm. The Jedi Council as a whole. Ugh. Rigid. Emotionally disconnected. Yeah, high control and low emotional support. Yeah, the way they kept telling Annie, like, no, yeah, you're not ready, or whatever the hell they were saying. Yeah. Like y'all drove him to that point. Because you can't keep rejecting somebody over and over. Like, I mean, get annoyed. I'm gonna talk about it now. You can't keep rejecting somebody over and over again and expect them to be like, la la la. Yeah, I don't have anybody in life, and y'all are all I have, and you keep rejecting me. So I'm gonna go over here with this man is using me. I don't care. Yeah. But he's promising me something that I y'all are not giving me. Exactly. And this is why I this is where I this is my passion about it. Okay. Did we give them an intervention? No, right. Well, it's flexibility and emotional awareness. I am in. I think, you know, yeah, I think that's that's it fits. Yeah. It's perfect. Agreed. Yeah. Absolutely. They gotta be aware of my emotions. Alright, so we're doing a pain in a plot, but we're doing one from each movie. Episode one to six, guys. Oh my god. Alright, yes. I don't think you saw these yet. No. You didn't? Okay. It's gonna be a surprise. And you know I forgot, so it's fine. Okay. Okay, so episode one. Go. You go. Alright. The moment.

SPEAKER_01 29:02

Qui-gon Jin insists Anakin be trained despite the council's hesitation. The pain. Strong intuition, belief in destiny, mistrust of rigid systems. I see something, others don't. The shift, he slows down, collaborates more with the council, explores support versus pushing forward.

SPEAKER_00 29:27

Yeah. Yeah, interesting. So the plot, Anakin's path may have been more supported.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

There would be less tension between him and the Jedi, and different foundation for this development. Um, he said, I have a feeling, and the council said, absolutely not. But I will say, like, I don't know that this is like this pain was worth the plot. I don't think so because I would have loved to see that happen, like where Anakin actually got the support.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

And you know, like they showed him like how life can be great, like in the forest and whatever.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

Right. Then Pad May would have had the twins and we would have seen them grow up, and then maybe a little war could have broke out some here and there, but not at this cost. Right. Yeah, you know, yeah, no, and I'm not saying I wouldn't have wanted Vader to be Vader, right? Right. You know, maybe he could do that on the weekends. Yeah, the villain needs to be a part of it. But like he can make a decision, he's still got his support here, but like he can go do what he gotta do. Nobody needs to know he got a mask on. Oh my god, yeah. But he would have never got burnt up, but he could have just worn it as a disguise. But how would he have known to okay? Now we're getting to the end two. That's okay. Okay, that's good. I agree with you though. Yes. So, what about episode two? Alright, so the moment in episode two is when Anakin and Padme choose to pursue a relationship despite clear complications. Yeah, also, like I thought it was weird how young, like I kept thinking about the first movie, how young. It's just that she was tall. Yeah, but like they were kids. Yeah, yeah. Okay. He's not really a tall guy.

unknown 31:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

I mean, he is an invader. Right, well, that's a costume. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay, so the pain, loneliness, emotional intensity, desire for connection, and secrecy. Yeah. Big secret. Um, the shift, they set boundaries, acknowledge the reality of the situation, slow down instead of diving in. And the plot would have been less secrecy, less emotional pressure on Anakin, potentially less fear-based attachment. They really said this is complicated, and then made it more complicated.

SPEAKER_02 31:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

Yeah. But I don't know, like, how well that would have gone if he was like, Yeah, so I'm dating Padme. But then, like, emotional, less emotional pressure, like he wouldn't have wanted to save her and maybe like joined the dark side. Like, you know what I mean? You don't think he would have wanted to save her if they were out? Like, I mean, yeah, but sometimes the secret makes things more intense. Hmm. Yeah. I don't know. No, I guess you're right. Because then yeah, yeah. No, I get it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. This is our favorite episode, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 32:26

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 32:27

Episode three, Revenge of the Sith. Yes. Alright. The moment.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

Anakin chooses Palpatine over the Jedi. Woof. Yeah. So the pain is the fear of losing Padme, need for control, distrust, isolation.

SPEAKER_00 32:47

Yeah, the shift. He seeks help, opens up instead of hiding, questions the source.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

And the plot, no immediate Darth Vader, different outcome for the Jedi, entire saga shifts.

SPEAKER_02 33:01

Which is like literally what we were just saying, you know, right before.

SPEAKER_01 33:06

Um, but he said, This man understands me, sir. That is the villain, you know. But whatever, like I would want to go with the person who understands what I'm going through. Right. Especially because I'm desperate in the moment we're you know, and then I have the history of them not fucking with me for real.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

Yeah, you know, like they're not helping me, right? And he actually like was trying to help him.

SPEAKER_01 33:32

It was that instant gratification thing, like yeah, they're looking more long term for him, they're looking out. But you know, he needs it right now, he needed a solution.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Exactly. Yeah, and again, sometimes that's the shit we do in real life. Like, we need that immediate gratification, we take whatever we get, and then it's not always the best thing.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

But if that's all you have, like what other choice do you have, you know? That's unfortunate. Alright, episode four, a new hope. The moment. Obi-Wan choosing to confront Vader alone instead of escaping with the group. Ugh, yeah. Yeah. The pain, unresolved guilt over Anakin, sense of responsibility, acceptance of past failure, emotional burden carried alone, belief that he has to be the one to face it. Oh my god. Yeah, and like you we see so much of that in the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, too. Like when he just realizes he's alive. Like, oh my god, yeah. Love it. Uh the shift he leaves with the group, allows the past to stay in the past, chooses survival over closure. It's a damn closure, y'all. You see what happens when y'all be out there chasing closure, you die. Yeah, just create it yourself again. All right. The plot Obi-Wan lives longer, continued mentorship for Luke, and different emotional trajectory for Luke's growth. He really said, This is my responsibility and handled it alone.

SPEAKER_02 35:13

Oh, Obi-Wan.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

Oh Ben. Yeah. O Ben. Yeah, but I don't think that pain. I mean, I think the pain was worth the plot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because I don't know. Did we say if episode three the pain was worth the plot? No, I don't think we didn't. We didn't. Do you think it was worth it? Um, I do. I do. Yeah. Damn I hate that I do. Yeah, me too. Because like it wouldn't have been what it was. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, sorry, we forgot. Okay, go. Okay. Ooh, this is the moment. Are we here already? We're on episode five. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

Okay, so episode five, the moment Darth Vader choosing to tell Luke Skywalker that he's his father.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Yeah. So the pain there is internal conflict, Anakin versus Vader, loneliness masked by power, desire for connection, need to be understood, control disguises vulnerability. Mm-hmm. Okay, so the shift would be he keeps the truth hidden, continues operating purely from control, avoids emotional exposure entirely. So then the plot would be Luke continues believing a simpler version of reality. I hate it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:47

Less identity disruption, weaker internal conflict going on in episode six. But like, would there even be an episode six then? You know what I mean? Like Vader remains more disconnected from his humanity. Yeah, I don't want that. This is boring now. Yeah. Like what whatever, right? This is hypothetical. But it's boring now. Yeah, no, the pain gotta be worth the plot. Yeah, like it would have survived two movies, three movies, and like cut it off. Because if Vader didn't choose to become Vader, Anakin didn't choose to become Vader, there's no story. Yeah. Yeah, period. If he wasn't good at building those little machines and then people come to see him. Oh my god. Or racing and his little, you know. That was cute. Yeah, look at him. Oh, this is the part. Oh my god, where they're gonna confront. We literally just said this. That's crazy. Isn't that what we're on right now? Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what we're on. That's so funny. Okay. Alright. And then Return of the Jedi. Alright. So the moment. Um, Luke nearly giving in to anger while fighting Vader. Yeah. Imagine. Oh well, you know, maybe. Okay, let me keep going. Intense emotional pressure. Sorry, the pain. Intense emotional pressure. Fear of losing loved ones, anger towards Vader, identity conflict. Like, am I becoming him? Um, desire to end the conflict quickly. The shift, he fully gives in, acts from anger instead of intention, chooses power over restraint. The plot, Luke turns to the dark side. Yes! That's why I was like, wait, let me finish. I would have loved this storyline. I think we should still have it. We should still have it. I think they should have given us both if you're listening. Yeah, like just give us both. Yeah. Yeah. And we choose to watch whichever one we want. Right. You can choose your ending. Exactly. Oh my god. That's brilliant. Someone make it happen. I love that. Okay. The pain was not worth it. Was it worth it here? Yeah, the pain was worth it. It was worth it, yeah. Okay, sorry. I didn't even finish. Luke turns to the dark side because that's where we got stuck. The cycle of father-son repeats, no redemption arc for Vader. Oh, yeah. See. Completely different ending for the saga. He was one decision away from becoming exactly who he was fighting, but like I won it.

SPEAKER_01 39:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:26

So baby bum. Make it happen.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:30

Alright. Honorable mentions.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 39:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Okay, quick honorable mention because we have to talk about it.

SPEAKER_00 39:38

Okay, so let's talk about some honorable mentions. Mandalorian loved it. Absolutely loved it. The movie's coming out on the 22nd, actually.

SPEAKER_02 39:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:47

And like, I don't know why every time I watched it, when like Grogu just made me cry. So he wasn't even doing any. Like, and he's not like a baby baby, right? But like But it just made me feel like, oh, that's baby Yoda. Yeah. Like that's what I thought. And I was just like, oh. He's just innocent a little like it. Oh my god. Okay. So for the Mandalorian, um, protect our identity, how caring for someone becomes who you are, unexpected attachment. Oh my god. Connecting in unlikely places. They were like an enemies to lovers. Sorry. But not like in that enemies to homies. Enemies to homies. Emotional softening. Oh, going from guarded to deeply invested. And purpose through connection. How relationships give life meaning. It's really about how love and responsibility can completely reshape your identity. And like I love watching like a man like Mandalorian just be soft and vulnerable. I love that in real life. Like I love when like manly men are like vulnerable. I think it's the most beautiful thing. Um I loved it. I just loved it. It was beautiful. It was beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:03

But Obi-Wan Kenobi was my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 41:06

Let's talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

Um, so unresolved guilt, carrying the weight of past decisions, grief and loss, mourning who someone was versus who they became.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

Avoidance versus healing. Running from the past versus facing it. Redemption and self-forgiveness. Learning to live with what you couldn't fix. Sam. Yeah. Learning to live with what you couldn't fix. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:33

Yeah. It's about what happens when you survive something but don't know how to move on from it.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:41

Man, that scene. You know the scene I'm talking about. When he cuts his mask in half, and then they just have that whole like back and forth. It was just so beautiful. It was so necessary. Yeah, it was.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

It I hate when people say like it filled the hole inside of me or whatever. But you know, but like whatever the same. Or whatever the same.

SPEAKER_00 42:02

That's our next segment, guys. No, I'm just kidding.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

But you know, like it really completed something inside of me. Yeah, me too. That I didn't even know. Like, I I wanted it, right? But I was like, ah, that's fine. Right. But then when I felt it whole, I was like, oh my god, no, this is what I needed. This is the closure.

SPEAKER_00 42:20

Yeah, our quest for no closure was closed. Yeah. No, I agree. I think we needed that. Yeah, hold the door. Okay, no, we're not gonna. Um, I think they needed to have that face-to-face conversation and like Anakin's face, yeah, not Vader's mask, like oh, that was so heartbreaking though. Because he was like, then I've lost my friend, or I've truly lost my friend, something. Oh my god, I hated it. Yeah, it was beautiful. I loved it. Okay, but let's talk about the part you really cried about, and that was at the end. Nope. When Qui-Gon came out riding in on his camel or whatever that thing they knew that we needed more Qui-Gon. Like they knew that I needed to know he was okay. Yeah, maybe we'll get a Qui-Gon show. Yeah. But even if we don't, like at least I know he's okay. What is it about him that you're just like there's something about him. He's just like so, he's just so big and strong. Oh, and well. I thought it was his wisdom. Yeah, that too.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

It's just something about like how long his hair is.

SPEAKER_00 43:37

I was just gonna see it was like a ponytail. I love it. Or that half up, half down. Something. And the way he held his lightsaber.

SPEAKER_01 43:46

No, he was everything.

SPEAKER_00 43:47

Like he was he was wise, and I appreciated that. Yeah. Oh my god, speaking of holding lightsabers, do you remember in the the Obi-Wan series when he was just like he moved the whole thing? Sam spacecraft with just his boy. It was so hot. That was hot. Mm-hmm. So even outside of episodes one through six, the emotional themes are still doing the same thing. Yeah. And we needed this closure. And Mandalorian was just a different dynamic, and I loved it.

SPEAKER_01 44:23

And you know what? Like, if we're talking about like why we love Star Wars and why people are connecting, and we just like I kind of feel like with this, um, with these with Obi-Wan, just for example, like the closure that I felt, like maybe it wasn't even for Star Wars.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:40

You know, or maybe it was for Star Wars, but like whatever I connected to with it, like in my life, right? Like, I attached those things together, and maybe the closure I got from there felt like it also closed whatever it is that I might have been missing from the other thing, too. If I associated it with that.

SPEAKER_00 44:59

I agree. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a lot of no no, absolutely. That makes a lot of sense. And then, like, even you know, with Mandalorian, like people just experiencing like what it's like to care for someone, or like, you know, yeah. And like you have no, you got a whole job to do, like you got a whole job, you know. Yeah, you got a whole job. Like, you gotta go fucking bouncy hunts people, you know? And now you gotta protect this thing and you don't want to do it, but the thing is like, oh, you know, so I need to. Yeah, anyway, whatever. Yeah. Okay, it's time for the chaos. Let's do our games. Okay. Alright, game one, the force test. Ooh. Okay, so what's actually driving you right now? Okay, so clearly everyone in Star Wars is being driven by something fear, love, control, denial. So we're gonna test it. This is the force test. Not to be confused with a skill. The force test. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Venmo. What's my session that stop because someone might have that and they might be? Oh shit, don't. I don't even have a Venmo. We don't have to do that. We're not collecting money. We're not collecting money yet. So funny, but you know what? That's a sign that we should begin. Yeah, yeah. Um, have you been here, Virginia? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 46:39

No, I think we scared away um Ashburn from Texas.

SPEAKER_00 46:44

Virginia.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

Oh, is it Virginia? Oh, I think we scared them away. Move my head. Oh no, I think we scared them away. Well, say I haven't moved back.

SPEAKER_00 46:58

Oh no, we didn't even get to know you. That's okay. Come back. You must love Star Wars. Yeah. Okay. Alright, so how it works.

SPEAKER_01 47:09

We're gonna read a scenario and each of us are gonna answer. Yeah either Jedi, Sith, or balance. So Jedi would be like suppression, control, logic. Sith would be emotion-driven, reactive, impulsive, and balanced would be regulated, aware, intentional.

SPEAKER_00 47:29

Okay, you guys play along too at home.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:32

Alright, so let's go through these.

SPEAKER_01 47:35

Okay, so relationships, attachment?

SPEAKER_00 47:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

Okay, someone doesn't text you back for hours. Oh. I think I would be balanced. Oh good. I would, you know, I wouldn't. Because, no, honestly, I think I'm leaning more towards Jedi because like I don't really care. Like, I would just be like, okay, they didn't text me back. Well, it depends on who. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:03

If you didn't text me back for hours, I would be total Jedi. Yeah. Yeah. But if like a guy I'm talking to didn't text me back for hours, I would be tight. I don't know. I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_01 48:18

I would notice it and I'll be like, oh, okay, well, whatever. But I'm not gonna be like, oh my god, I'm so upset. What's he doing? Like, well, just like, yeah, whatever. Okay. Because I do it.

SPEAKER_00 48:29

Yeah. You know? And I'm not doing anything. I'm just like vibing in my own. See, I'm the opposite. I respond. Yeah, no, I'm not doing that. So like I expect that in return. So yeah. So okay. That's fair. Opposite. Okay. Um, you feel like you're giving more than you're getting. Oh it would be the Sith again.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

I think I would start to go Sith on this one. Yeah. Alright. You start catching feelings and it scares you. Damn. I'm scared. And it scares me.

SPEAKER_00 49:10

Okay. But like if I'm catching feelings and it scares me, I might want to like make like have some control, some logic, or something like that too. I'm like a you know like a hybrid. Like but a Sith dominant hybrid. A sativa dominant hybrid? Sith dominant. Oh, okay. Just kidding. I would never do a Sativa dominant hybrid. Yeah. We know. Well, I know, but people don't know. Um okay. Okay, someone important to you is upset, but won't tell you why. You know, I would be balanced, honestly, because take your time until you're ready. Yeah. Yeah. Same. I might be a little more Jedi, but yeah, balanced.

unknown 50:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

It's like whatever. You don't want to talk. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:08

Like, if you don't want me to know why you're upset, then yeah, take your time, but but also why can't you tell me? Yeah. Okay. Actually, yeah. It's okay. Okay. You're angry, but don't want to ruin the relationship. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:28

I feel like if you're sick, then you're just ruining the relationship.

SPEAKER_00 50:32

Right.

SPEAKER_01 50:32

You're gonna ruin it because you're not gonna.

SPEAKER_00 50:36

I don't know. I don't know. That's a tricky one, too. Because it depends on like if I value the relationship or not, right? Why do we gotta think into everything? Because that's what we do for a living. Alright, I'm gonna force myself to pick one. Um, Jedi. Yeah. I would probably try to control or make logic of it somehow or something.

SPEAKER_01 51:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:02

Or justify.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

I mean, I like to say that if I'm not gonna ever talk to the person again, then whatever. Yeah. But if I'm upset with something, maybe that someone did, but like I'm not ready to end that relationship. Like if it's a friendship, I'm not gonna stop being friends with someone because of this. Yeah. Then you know, you get through it somehow. You just get past it. Yeah. Whatever it is.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

So it's like maybe, yeah, suppress because you feel someone pulling away from you emotionally. Ugh. I'm Jedi. But maybe I'm sick. Yeah, I'm a combination of those two, I would say, also. Yeah. Because I would want to react. And then I would yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:06

Okay. Alright, so like with conflict and communication, um, you wanna bring something up, but you know it might start an argument.

SPEAKER_00 52:20

Um I did this the other day. I mean, I would have to say what I gotta say. I'm sorry, I can't not. Yeah. So whatever, what's that? Sith. Sith. Okay. Yep. Well, that that that's me. Okay. Someone calls you out on something you didn't realize you were doing. Oh, I always feel like I'm being criticized, so I'm gonna react emotionally. Yeah. Even though, even if it could be like something positive, I still get like offended.

SPEAKER_01 52:57

Yeah, if it's something you didn't realize you were doing, it's like, you know, you have to like kind of just it's not like you're doing it on purpose then. If it's something you didn't realize you're doing, so it's just like you're okay. Yeah. You feel misunderstood in a conversation.

SPEAKER_00 53:15

That's frustrating.

SPEAKER_01 53:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:18

I'm probably Sith. God, I'm such a Sith.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

No.

SPEAKER_00 53:23

Like that, I feel like I just I would be Jedi in that. Like, whatever. This is what happened, and you know what? That's why I hang up. I know that sounds emotion driven, but like someone like I just yeah, I just I just can't. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:49

But I mean it is reactive and impulsive, so it seems very sith, but it's not always a hang up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:57

You know, but it's like that's just when I go over there to the sith, to the dark side for a minute. Yeah. You're hurt, but the other person doesn't seem to notice. I'm sorry, I'm emotionally reacting. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 54:19

Okay, so self-intern. Okay, you feel stuck, but you don't know how to change it. That is it.

SPEAKER_00 54:33

Like initially, like I'm just don't know how to change it. But I'm trying to like think of a scenario where I've been stuck and I don't know how to change it. Yeah, actually, yeah, that's it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's great. You compare yourself to someone and feel like you're behind.

unknown 54:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:53

Yeah, I think that's that might be balance. Yeah. Cause like I'll always make up something in my head to make myself feel better about a situation. I don't care what it is. I'll be like, oh yeah, like you know, on Friends how Phoebe's mom told her that that's how the movie ended. Oh. I will legit pretend this is how the movie ended. And be like, okay, yeah, that wasn't so bad. You know, because I can't.

SPEAKER_02 55:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 55:24

That's a whole other problem. That's totally fine. I would be upset. So once again, I'm a sin. I really am a sin. Well, thank God I chose what I chose. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 55:38

Yeah. You made a mistake you can't stop thinking about. That's literally me every day. Every decision is a mistake.

SPEAKER_00 55:48

I can't stop. It's never a mistake. Oh my god. So what? So what am I? I haven't been calm. You haven't. So like maybe you're maybe you are but I feel Jedi balance. Yeah. Yeah. You feel overwhelmed and don't know where to start. I that's a Sith for me. Because I can't manage being overwhelmed. Yeah. You feel like you're not living up to your potential. I mean, that's Sith.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

When I get in my feelings, I'm just in there.

SPEAKER_00 56:25

And those are in there. Yeah. Yeah, same. Same. Um, okay. You want something, but you know it might not be good for you. Well, story of my life. That's every morning. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess we're balanced in that way. Okay. Control, letting go. Something isn't going how you planned. Um brat, and I'm a Sith. Yeah, I'm a Sith. Exactly. You want to control the outcome, but you can't. Anxiety prize. Yeah. I'm a Sith. God, Sith. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:02

All day. You feel like everything depends on you. That's you every day. Yeah. Well, this morning, everything literally depended on me. Like, I don't know how they trusted me to bring the fucking work with us.

SPEAKER_00 57:18

Stop asking her to trust me to do shit. Because she doesn't like carrying shit. Not through the security. Barely makes it to work on top. Stop asking her to do shit. I was in charge of all the decorations. Like when I got there, I realized like if I just decided not to go to work today, there would be no decoration. It would be an ugly part. I'm sure it looks beautiful. It looks beautiful. Yeah. Happy retirement. Happy retirement. Howie Potter. Howie Potter. But if you're listening, honestly, don't give her shit to do. Don't give me nothing to do. Because yeah, she's not. I love when they be like, oh, we're gonna do potluck. No.

SPEAKER_01 57:57

Every time they say the potluck and they're like, we loved your air biscuits last year, but can you bring the sodas?

SPEAKER_00 58:03

And I didn't. No, you didn't, right? Mm-hmm. No, I'm never doing anything. I hate whatever. Anyway, this is a different episode. Um, okay. Some spicy fun ones, shall we? Yeah. Let's do it. All right. You want to text them, but you know you shouldn't. Oh lord. I just text you and say, should I text him and what should I say? That's true.

SPEAKER_02 58:29

So I guess I'm I'm balanced.

SPEAKER_01 58:32

Like I'm in there. I'm focused. I'm intentional.

SPEAKER_00 58:36

You shouldn't. Yeah. I know what I'm doing. I agree. Okay. Okay, you're tempted to check something you probably shouldn't. I've never been tempted to check anything.

SPEAKER_01 58:51

Um because I don't know if there's a reason I'd like to say like it's because, oh, be careful what you ask for. Like whatever the saying is. Like you go looking for something, you'll find it. Whatever the saying is.

SPEAKER_00 59:06

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 59:08

Um, but that's not really it.

SPEAKER_00 59:10

Like, I just don't want to go through anything. Yeah, I haven't really been tempted of leads to check anything because yeah, I don't need to. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 59:24

Um, you're jealous, but you don't want to admit it. I will admit when I'm jealous. Yes. Same. I'll admit when I'm balanced. Yeah. You want to prove a point. Oh, that's me all the time. Yeah. Sith.

SPEAKER_01 59:39

Yeah. But honestly, sometimes I just feel like it's not even worth it to prove a point. It's not worth it for me because then it's like I'm the only one that actually cares about this. Yeah. And it doesn't matter because it's not going to change what the person thinks anyway. So let them think what they want. Like, I don't even care.

SPEAKER_00 59:59

I think that's like the only child's part of me is like I need to prove a point. And also, like, I had to defend myself when I was younger a lot, and let have it just stuck with me.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:12

Like, because I feel like people are opposing or like disagreeing, or like they think that's okay because there's so many other opinions, and I think that's yeah, that's something you get when you grow up with siblings. Because like I used to think this, Raymond could think that, Rashe thinks this. It's like those are all true. Yeah, you know, we're all watching the same movie, they just have the different favorite part, you know. But if I was an only child, I wouldn't believe that. I would be like, look, this is my movie. I watched it, this is my favorite part, and and that's it. Yeah, but you learn to appreciate other people's opinions and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:48

We kind of do an only child episode because we did a sublime. Yeah, that's terrible to stuff. But love it. Yeah. Okay. Okay, game two. Who said it in therapy Star Wars Edition?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:04

Okay, so each of us are gonna read a line, the other has to guess the character that said this in session. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:14

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:15

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:18

I just feel like I have to handle everything myself. I feel like that's Leia.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:24

Yeah. She literally does.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:27

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:28

Cause nobody makes like people would just, I don't know what everybody else is doing. Leia's working hard. Okay. Alright. What have I done? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:40

I didn't mean for it to go that far. And again, literally.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:44

What have I done? Exactly. Right. Okay. I'm just trying to do the right thing. Lutes. Mm-hmm. I don't trust easily. I can hear him saying this. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We're getting a little harder here.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:02

Yeah. Okay. I saw the signs. I just thought it would be different with me.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:07

Pad May. Pad May ignoring the red flags. Oh. I could ignore them too. Me too. Me too. We're so toxic. We're so great. We're such great people. Okay. I had a feeling about this from the beginning. Oh, we won. That sounds like such like a logic thing. Yeah. Oh, Ben. Oh, Ben. Yeah. Okay. I don't get emotional. I stay focused. That's my Yoda energy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not worried. I've handled worse. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I didn't tell anyone because I thought I could fix it. Anakin. Yeah. Absolutely.

unknown 1:02:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:55

Okay. Okay. Um, if I lose them, I have nothing. Anakin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was his whole story. Exactly. He did. Yeah. And he lost them. He said. He has nothing. I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:27

I gave you everything, and you still don't trust me.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:35

That's Anakin again. Yeah. I feel like he would absolutely because like he's a little whiny, you know what I mean? So he would, yeah, that's episode two to Anakin. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I did what I had to do. That could be vaping. That could be Palpatine too. Oh yeah. And Anakin again. Yeah. Yeah. I suppose, yeah. You don't understand what I've sacrificed. The way you even just said it. What have I done? You don't understand what I've sacrificed. Anakin, yeah. Right. I don't need help. Oh my god. All of that. That's everybody. Yeah. Meanwhile, y'all all need help. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:24

I know how this ends. And I'm doing it anyway. That's Anakin. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, they'll come around eventually. Always with the hope. Luke. That's Luke. Yeah, I'm sure. Okay. I trusted the system. Oh no. That's Obi-Wan. By the books. Mr. By the Books. And the Jedi Council, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um. I just need a little more time. Oh, Annie. I think that's Obi-Wan too. Yeah. Yeah. Obi-Wan.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:10

Padme just needed a little more time with the babies.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:12

Anybody just needed a little more time.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:14

Try God needed a little more time too. With you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:21

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:22

Okay. Like, even though this is the end of the episode, but like I'm not done talking about Star Wars. Never. Because I just feel like so much goes on, but like, if you just catch Star Wars, like now I can see, like, if someone just walks in here, yes, we're we just happen to be on like on an action scene or whatever. So this might not make sense, but someone coming in that doesn't know the story, that doesn't know Annie from a baby, yeah, you know, yeah, or like a a little a little boy. Yeah. Like it's not gonna hit the same way. You're not gonna see, like, you're not gonna care about these characters. You're like, oh, okay, one guy has on a black suit, the other ones are running around in white.

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Yeah, you know, like you don't get it, right? And that's care. That's kind of also why, like, I like that I watch it with the backstory first. Because it yeah. I mean, I would have been interested, but like I just need a backstory. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's it for our Seth. That's it for now for Star Wars. Happy fourth, May the Fourth, May the Fourth, May the Sith, Happy Siths, Sith Day, Happy Sith Days that are coming up. Yeah, and clearly I have discovered that I'm way more a Sith than I thought I was. Yeah. So yeah. Well, I don't know why that surprises you because you're like Slytherin and Oh, that's true. I'm just an emotionally reactive person. Right. Alright, that might stem from some mommy issues. Well, the next session, we're talking about mommy issues. But not just in the way people think. We're talking about the full picture. The moms who loved us well. And the relationships that were more complicated. Because whether it was safe, messy, or somewhere in between, it shapes how we love, trust, and see ourselves. Yeah, this one's gonna slap. Yeah. Yeah. Right in time for Mother's Day. Right in time for Mother's Day, y'all. Okay, well, that's it for this session. See ya next time. We want you to be a part of this world with us. Send us your book recommendations, character obsessions, or topics you want us to cover. You can find us on Instagram and TikTok at once upon a session pod. Or email us at info at onceuponassessionpod.com if you want to share thoughts, suggestions, or just scream about a plot twist with us. Or tell us what the saying is. Yeah. Yeah. We don't know it. We don't know ever. Alright. Alright. So are we charging for this session? Emotionally. Wait, it was a special. Oh yeah, you're right. We're not emotionally. No, we're not always emotionally always for Star Wars, but the session is for free. Right. Right, see you next session. Same couch, same chaos.