Ourselves & Everyone Else
Talking about nothing and everything
Ourselves & Everyone Else
Ep. 5
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Which sibling was harder to raise?, psychedelics, buying pot pre dispensaries, and songs that bring you back to simpler times
I don't know, daycare. It's um it's nice. It's a nice bur I know it sounds bad. It's a nice break though.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I mean, my favorite time, not my favorite, I love seeing her and picking her up when she's all smiley. And but I get an hour between when I get home and have to get her. It's really nice. I can take a shower, wipe my own ass, and I don't have to worry about someone crying. Someone crying.
SPEAKER_06Someone being fussy.
SPEAKER_03Someone asking for dinner. You know, I'm just completely alone.
SPEAKER_06Is that a dig to me? Someone asking for dinner? Are you shitting me? Look, let's get into that. Let's get into the breath. First up, I never ask for dinner. I don't come home.
SPEAKER_03No, but you expect dinner. And that's because I have set it up that way. Because I typically have dinner ready when you get home. I try to time it perfectly.
SPEAKER_06But I'm also understanding when you're like, dude, I'm I'm fucking tired. Gassed. Yeah. I don't, I'm like, yeah, you're fine. No one asked you to be superwoman.
SPEAKER_03I know, but then it's like, if I don't make dinner, then we're like, there's nothing to eat. And then we'll order food.
SPEAKER_06I know.
SPEAKER_03So I have to make dinner.
SPEAKER_06Oh my god. I tried to make dinner, you guys. Oh man. I just do you know what? I I can confidently say I am I'm good at a lot of things.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I I do my part at the house.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06But cooking ain't one of them. If if it's like if it's you you need an assist on cooking steak, cooking chicken, I'm the chicken master.
SPEAKER_03I'm getting better at chicken, actually.
SPEAKER_06You are. You are.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06You're finally trusting.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And you know when to pull that. You pull it 10 degrees before. Right. And you let it sit. And then it let it sit. It cooks. Yes. Because you and God bless your mother. Y'all fucking cook that chicken until it is dry. There's no juice left. It's like jerky. It's like all jerky. I'm just chicken jerky.
SPEAKER_03It's like that scene in uh every time I'm like Christmas vacation. When they cut the turkey. It's like I know we put it in the phone.
SPEAKER_06Dude, there are multiple times where I'm like, damn, baby, you you gotta, you're like, whoa, there's a little pink in there. I'm like a tiny pink, like a tiny shade of pink. I'm like, it's not supposed to be like I just get freaked out with chicken.
SPEAKER_03It just freaks me out. But I've gotten so much better.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, yeah. But I tried, I tried to make something, and it was so and again, you know, we were, you know, you were saying we don't really we we don't have something in the house, or it and I'm like, try to do what you do. Yeah, you make things out of nothing. I'm like, there's nothing in the house, and you just make like buttered noodles and whatever is left there, and it's awesome and it's amazing. I tried that. Uh fucking horrible. I tried to make something very simple in my mind.
SPEAKER_03Now I wish you would have told me what your thought process was because I would have told you like that kind of that type of space.
SPEAKER_06Well, let's tell them what I made. It was a chicken Alfredo.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but you use spaghetti noodles, chicken, and then you put this like lemon alfredo sauce from Trader Joe's. I understand. I wish you would have told me though, because we could have made a sauce. We could have made our own cheese sauce, and you wouldn't, you don't do spaghetti noodles.
SPEAKER_06That's all we had.
SPEAKER_03No, we had penne up up at the top. Yes, we did. And penne would have been better with the chicken. Spaghetti and chicken. Penne is spaghetti and chicken. It's those two things that they just unless you're having a full like chicken parmesan, you can put spaghetti noodles under. Yeah. That makes sense. But like chunks of chicken, you can't do a spaghetti.
SPEAKER_06You guys can't see me, but my head is like, I'm like sinking in this tear. I'm like, I just I just wish you would have told me that it's I will I didn't tell you because I didn't want you to have to get up and do something. I was trying to be nice. I know.
SPEAKER_03It was and I would have eaten it. It's just that no, I couldn't do it either. Like I was like, and so I ate a can of it.
SPEAKER_06I can see why we never used it. Yeah. I'll never I even looked at it, I'm like, well, that sounds weird, but okay.
SPEAKER_03I had some tin fish and a cracker.
SPEAKER_06I had one, like two bites of that.
SPEAKER_03And I'm like, I had like a scone, muffin, chipotle, but you know that thing goes right through you.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, chipotle goes right through you.
SPEAKER_03A yogurt. So you had breakfast, lunch, and snack. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Not my shrine.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_06No.
SPEAKER_03That's okay, because it's mine.
SPEAKER_06I know.
SPEAKER_03But it but I feel bad.
SPEAKER_06I do feel bad when you like come home. You work too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And then you gotta like do that, and I'm gassed from being like outside all day. I'm like, can I just get a minute? And you're like, Well, I gotta make dinner. I'm like, oh god, I feel bad. I feel bad, but you're so much better.
SPEAKER_03It is what it is.
SPEAKER_06But if it's just craft mac and cheese, I'll fuck it up. Yeah, let's go.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I enjoy cooking though, for the most part. I I do like it. It's different now. I used to have like my music on and candle lit and a glass of wine, and it was like a whole thing for me, and it was very calming. I like doing that. Now it's not feeling like that.
SPEAKER_06Fucking process.
SPEAKER_03But I did have Ireland up on the counter with me watching me chop up the stuff, and that was cute. She was very interested in cooking.
SPEAKER_06So yeah, when I do the uh when like I clean the kitchen or do the dishes or something, and I'm like, I I can't hold you right now. I have like washing those bottles is like a two thing.
SPEAKER_01Fucking god.
SPEAKER_06We can get into that in a minute, but um no, she does great in that little uh chair. I don't know what what are they called? Bumbo bum bumbos. Yeah, she loves it.
SPEAKER_03She loves it, she's like part of it, and she likes that, and I like that, and I can't wait until she's old enough to cook with me.
SPEAKER_06That'll be cool. Or like when she starts like baking.
SPEAKER_03Baking and yeah, I'm very excited about that.
SPEAKER_06That'll be cute. See, I mean, we'll get back to all that kind of stuff. Oh yeah, it's the first year. It's fucking and I know maybe we're just we'll go back and listen to this and go, how naive were we? But it's actually fucking worse. No, I don't know. No, I mean a lot of people say it's like, oh yeah, I mean, like, it gets more crazy because now they can tell you they can talk.
SPEAKER_03I think that when people are like, oh my god, like they start talking and walking and fucking terrible. I'm like, I just don't think that maybe you like being a parent that much.
SPEAKER_06I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I I I think people that complain about their kids all the time, like this stage sucks, that stage sucked, that was shit. I'm like, maybe you just don't like being a parent because you're not embracing, yes, it's fucking hard. We all know that there are shitty parts. Literally, she just shit up her back the other day. That was disgusting. That was horrible. We all know that there are parts and there there are times where you're like, fuck, this is really hard. Yeah. But you love it, right? I mean, at the end of the day, you love being a parent. I love watching her grow and learn. Do I get fucking irritated? Yeah. Am I gonna get fucking irritated when she's older? Yeah. But I'm gonna love it because I love being a mom. I love being a parent. And I feel like people that complain all the time and they're like, oh my god, it's just way worse. Like, buckle up, it gets worse. I'm like, I just feel like you don't love this. I feel like you don't like the journey of that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because you're not finding anything good about any of it. Maybe you just don't like it.
SPEAKER_06I think all of the stages are probably gonna have their, you know, there's always gonna be pros and cons. I know what's gonna irritate me already, but I'm I'm already anticipating. She's gonna get into fucking everything we have. All my all my like speaker wires and shit. I'm like already looking at the house.
SPEAKER_03There's stages of fucking my 20s that were terrible. I mean, like what's real? There's a stage of everything.
SPEAKER_06Your parents weren't having to be par Yeah.
SPEAKER_03My parents were still in my I was still living there when I was in college. In my twenties, still being an asshole.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I'd actually like my dad to be on this podcast so I could ask him who was the hardest to raise out of us? Who do who does he think would be I would imagine he would say Sid. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And not even like just because she was the first. Yeah. She was the first to go through everything. She was more rebellious. Well, and he had to learn everything with her. Just like I feel like the first one is probably always not always the hardest. You always have your own.
SPEAKER_03No, I think you're you're you were harder than Kelsey.
SPEAKER_04I feel like your parents would say, Bring your dad in here. Let me ask him. Bring your mom bring your mom in here.
SPEAKER_05Okay.
SPEAKER_03Okay. My question was we were talking about who who is harder to raise. And we were talking about the first kids usually the hardest. And I said, No, I think you were harder to raise than Kelsey. And so I said, Bring your mom down here because I'd like to know who is harder.
SPEAKER_00Well, they both were challenging for different reasons, right? So I think it was harder for us to dress to Kelsey when she was an infant because obviously it was the first one, right? Right. But yeah, he takes a cake. So I mean, he was harder. Oh, please, don't even don't even question that. Yeah. You were harder from the time you started school. So I would say from third or fourth grade you were hard.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I knew it. I knew she that you were gonna be harder than Kelsey.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You were harder. I mean, you know, you you struggled with attention issues and, you know, getting things done and that and that was just a struggle for all of us. We lost all of that struggle.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So in that way it was harder. Um, but then, you know, it kind of flip-flop because as Kelsey got into high school, there were different issue, girl issues there and friend issues and and bad girl and mean girl kind of stuff. And that that was hard to deal with. And and what was that website? Um it wasn't Facebook, but what MySpace. My space. Oh my god. We had to learn how to get techie.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00When we had no clue.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So that was really hard for us to adjust to and try to stay ahead of the technology. It was impossible.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So you know, so there were there were hard points along the way.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00But I think he probably overall took more of our energy than anyone.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah. Definitely.
SPEAKER_00But we're so pleased with the outcome. Yeah, look at you now. You know? Yeah. Yeah. See? Great. Wow.
SPEAKER_06I was harder to raise.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You just had different, I mean, you didn't respond to anything, Pate. You know that. You remember that. Oh, I remember. I mean, I taped freaking $50 bills on your bedroom wall to get you to take your homework in on time, and that just didn't even affect you. You had seriously.
SPEAKER_06No, I didn't care.
SPEAKER_00There was a 50 tape to his bedroom wall. If you can just return your homework on time, the homework was done. But it was gathering mold in his backpack. Oh my gosh. And those are the reasons that you know, those those were the things that were challenging. We just didn't know how to motivate him. Yeah. I just was it was rough.
SPEAKER_03$50 bills, and he said no. I didn't care.
SPEAKER_06It wasn't no. It wasn't even like a no defiant. It was just I can't hear you. It wasn't even uh It wasn't that I I said no to it. I wasn't defiant. I just didn't I had no motivation. I mean zero. I just didn't care. I truly did not care.
SPEAKER_04Interesting. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Maybe I'll try it now.
SPEAKER_00Tape a fifty to the back of our how and how do you I mean how do you get it? Hold on.
SPEAKER_06Hold on. What do you think I I don't do that you need to motivate me to?
SPEAKER_03I don't know, the deck or the or the storage unit. And I'll put a fifty bucks and if you can clean it out, I'll give it to you.
SPEAKER_06You're so wrong.
SPEAKER_03You know. You know about the storage unit. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna try it. I'll do a hundred. Maybe that'll be better.
SPEAKER_06This was a fun segment. Uh apparently I was the hardest. Great.
SPEAKER_00You set yourself up for that. You knew that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06No, I really do.
SPEAKER_03I'm like, I think Kelsey was a little He's like, no, the first one I'm like, no, not everything I've heard. It would be you.
unknownYeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You were the hardest. I mean, again, with Kelsey, I had to we had to adapt. And I I mean it it took away I say this negatively, but it really wasn't. But it takes away your freedom and your flexibility. Yeah. And you know, and that's that's a hard lesson to learn, even though you are you feel like you are so ready to be a parent. Oh yeah. You so want this baby so much. I mean and then you get them and and it's still wonderful, you know, all the beautiful things. But but you're not free anymore, and you don't have any money anymore. And you know, and you just you you're sleep deprived for days on end. And yeah, you know, and there's all kinds of other problems to figure out when the kids are sick, and who's gonna watch them when you have to go to work and yeah. So it was just, you know, a constant flow of problem solving. But you know, it doesn't make what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I mean you you rise up and you figure it out and you know it kind of prepares you for the for the tougher years to come.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You seem surprised, you seem shocked.
SPEAKER_06I'm a little surprised. I don't know. I just think I was just the sweet baby boy. I knew I had my issues, but okay. Sweet baby boy. Well, this was fun. Um, I guess we'll get back to I still think Sydney was probably the hardest. Oh yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_03I I would love to that's because I was like a recluse. I stayed in my room. I was like, I don't want anything to do with anything. So it was way harder for her because she was very rebellious and was doing all the stuff. And I was like, nah, I don't want any part of that.
SPEAKER_06So good girl. Good girl.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
unknownAll right.
SPEAKER_06Uh yeah, wow, okay.
SPEAKER_03I really want you to learn sign language with me. I'm doing so well. I I will hype myself up. I am I love it. It is so fun to learn. But I need you to learn so that we can sign when we're at things and we can talk to each other from across the room.
SPEAKER_06I'm down. Honestly, when you told me at first, I felt like I was just like, what? Yeah, yeah, like didn't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_04I was like, okay.
SPEAKER_06In that moment, I I didn't. I'm like, I don't, I'm so tired. I was so tired. I was kind of sick, still feel a little sick. And now, but now I got like decent sleep last night. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I've always wanted to do that. We've always wanted to do that with each other. I'm in. That sounds fun as hell. It's pretty fun. Yeah. I love it. I I love it too. I I love that you're doing it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06But yeah, when you first brought it, I'm like, what? No, I want to learn a language right now. Like, I'm so tired. I'm so done. I am curious. So I can set it up where we can Bluetooth your phone to this and we can hear uh call. You should call your dad and ask.
SPEAKER_04Who is harder to raise?
SPEAKER_06Yep. So our guess is I think he'll say Sid.
SPEAKER_03I think he'll say Sydney as well. Or he'll do the thing where he'll say Cam as well.
SPEAKER_06In your own ways.
SPEAKER_03No, he won't say Cam because I'm asking him specifically between me and Sydney.
SPEAKER_06Well, you should say out of all the kids, I already know it's gonna be Cameron because he's older and they're dealing with it. Yeah, but I already know.
SPEAKER_04I want to know between Sydney and I.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_04Well, it's gonna be Sydney. Anyway.
SPEAKER_06Um, yeah, I just all all the um stages are different. I know most like people are like, well, you know, gear up and I know your opinion on that, but uh it it does. There are going to be moments where I'm I fully anticipate just like the talking back, the getting through everything, like you gotta lock everything up, all the cabinets, they're walking around, they're fucking grabbing dog food. It's like I know, but I can I'm ready for that. I know it's gonna be first. I'm excited for it.
SPEAKER_03I'm worried about when she's in high school and middle school and there's mean girls. I how do you not cuss out a child? That's gonna be my hardest thing. How do you not go to those girls and be like, hey, what's up? You know, yeah, you're fucking ugly as shit. Look at your acne, and you're talking about my kid. Like, I'm gonna have a hard time.
SPEAKER_06Because it's a 13-year-old child.
SPEAKER_03Right. But I'm gonna have a hard time if they're harping on my girl, it's gonna be really hard for me to be mature, especially if their parents are dicks too. Like I go to their mom and I'm like, hey, your kid's being a fucking asshole. And they're like, Yeah, well, that's just and their mom's a mean girl. Oh, I'm getting in fights as a grown woman in front of the school.
SPEAKER_06I mean, you're already getting hyped up.
SPEAKER_03I'm just getting hyped thinking about it. Because I know girls are so nasty. I wasn't the nicest person.
SPEAKER_06So what is it gonna it's gonna break my heart if she's actually a bully?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Either one sucks. Yeah, but I can I can go, hey, you are you're an asshole. Why are you being a dick?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03In a nice way. But yeah, no, you're being an asshole. Why are you bullying? You think you're better than these people? You're not. Yeah. Like I can humble her real quick, but it's other kids that I'm like, ooh, I want to call you a Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_06All kinds of you can't. But you can't, because they're children.
SPEAKER_03Well, I can, but you have to do it strategically. I'll make my own fake profile. Oh my. Like that one mom. Like that one mom. But she bullied her own kid. That was fucking crazy. That was so weird. And then she was like, What what documentary was that?
SPEAKER_06What was that called?
SPEAKER_03Ugh, I don't know. But she was like talking to her boyfriend, he loves hooking up with me. I'm like, you're you're her mom.
SPEAKER_06But she how long did she she went to jail for Yeah.
SPEAKER_03She was doing it for years. She was literally bullying her child over the phone for years. She's out though. She might be out, yeah.
SPEAKER_06No, no, she's not. Because she was like staying in contact with their daughter evil.
SPEAKER_03We would I would never talk to my mom again. That'd be hard because No, pretty simple.
SPEAKER_06No, I it's I think it's simple if she's a kid. So it's simple as us being adults, and we go rationally, we go, You're you're you're evil, dude. Yeah, you're weird. And that's insane. You were talking to children in a sexual way. Yeah. Like wild weird that they didn't ask for.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, we're adults, we can think that way, but a child who like this is mom, you're like, Well, this is that was terrible, but it's still my mom. Like, I still I don't want to lose my mom. Yeah, it's a mind fuck for a child that's horrible. And watch out for that kid because that was now like she her brain is telling her, like, well, I guess that's kind of like normal. I know it's not normal, but it's normal to me. It's just bizarre, just bizarre.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_06So I don't know. That's what I'm worried about. I'm worried about 13 because they hate dads. They hate their dads.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. But you're gonna be I'm gonna be the one that she hates more. Because I'm gonna be the one that has to lay the hammer down. You're not gonna do that. You're gonna be the sweet dad. I'm the one that's gonna be the asshole that's like, you're grounded, give me your fucking phone for a month.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, but I'm gonna but I'm always gonna back you. I always have to back you.
SPEAKER_03No, I know, but it's gonna be my decision.
SPEAKER_06Even if I don't agree with you, I still have to back.
SPEAKER_03She's gonna hate me for a little bit there.
SPEAKER_06She's gonna hate us both.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Because if you take her phone away, and rightly so, or the world, you're ruining my life.
SPEAKER_03I can't wait. I cannot wait for the line you're ruining my life in a door slam.
SPEAKER_06I you can't wait. I can wait. I cannot I hope it never happens.
SPEAKER_03I'm taking the door off the hinges.
SPEAKER_06It's gonna suck.
SPEAKER_03Oh, you want to slam the door? All right.
SPEAKER_06Or the classic.
SPEAKER_03I wish I was never born. I know. I didn't actually be here. Shut the fuck up. Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. She's gonna listen to this one day and be like, fuck you guys. Be like, yeah, well, you did do that, actually. You did. Oh god.
SPEAKER_06God. 13.
SPEAKER_03They got the bear in the big blue house on.
SPEAKER_06Yep.
SPEAKER_03I heard you.
SPEAKER_06Did you heard my dad do it?
unknownThank you, bear.
SPEAKER_04Thank you, bear. Yeah, I know he doesn't he can't hit that high now. I know.
SPEAKER_06It's so like, what is that? Thank you, bear. Yeah, it's so funny. It's cute though. It is cute. She still laughs. She still gets a smile. Yeah. She loves it.
SPEAKER_03The sun is out. Oh my god. Can I just say I was driving home maybe a couple of weeks ago. It was like eight o'clock. Maybe 7 30 or 8, and the sun's setting, and the song Champagne Supernova comes on, and I felt rejuvenated. I was like, wow, the sun, beautiful. Like everything was so beautiful and not so much. I know it's one of my favorite songs. I know. And the song comes on, and I've cried to that song a few times.
SPEAKER_06How can you not?
SPEAKER_03So good. But I'm driving home and I'm like, wow, and I felt like it was like 2016 again. Windows down.
SPEAKER_06Really? It puts you in 2016.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Wow.
SPEAKER_03I mean, that's not the first time I heard it, but it just gave me a nostalgia. Like I was feeling nostalgic about like 2016 or 2015. No, it's 2016 summer. Just peak summer for me. I had such a great time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06It's the um screaming. Um Champagne Supernova. Wow. So six 2016 vibes.
SPEAKER_03Um, yeah, I'm driving home Champagne Supernova. And I was like, I just felt, I don't know, free. I just felt free, man. I don't know how to explain. So good.
SPEAKER_06The the fucking it however that producer, like the it there's certain songs that I feel like need to be studied on how they even just the the production, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06It's a beautiful song. The lyrics are perfect.
SPEAKER_03But the wave sounds in the beginning, the water.
SPEAKER_06And then like the guitar is tuned in a certain way. Oh, yeah, you have it all connected. Just that play that beginning, because then it's just it's so good. And it's not trying to be too much.
SPEAKER_03It's not trying to be anything.
SPEAKER_06But it's not too simple. It's right in the pocket. It's a different it's such a unique sound. God, they were so good. That fucking. Oh man, the acoustic. Everything about it. The acoustic with the electric guitar slightly in the back. So good.
SPEAKER_03So good. This is like one of those songs that's like almost perfect to me.
SPEAKER_06I agree.
SPEAKER_02When we would die.
SPEAKER_06What a perfect lyric.
SPEAKER_03I just, I just want everyone that's a good one.
SPEAKER_06You've listened to that whole album, right? No. You really should. I should.
SPEAKER_03What I was gonna say is I advise everyone when the sun is setting, go on a drive alone. Put your windows down or with someone you love or your best friend. Go, don't talk, put that song on, blast it. Sun is setting, windows down, or sun is rising, either one.
SPEAKER_05And just drive.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and just drive down the highway with that song. I'm telling you, it's gonna put you in this like head space.
SPEAKER_06It's like you're like, wow, it's gonna make everything okay. Life is good.
SPEAKER_03Give me that, give me a fucking hot dog with mustard. And my I feel like I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna do all right.
SPEAKER_06I've had so many, not well, not so many, but like I I have had a lot of those moments with Zach. He used to have this um this Ford truck, but he had an insane his sound system was worth more than the truck.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And he got so into like the sound and like all the dude, it was one of the best sounding sis sound systems I've ever heard. And he would probably still agree. But we had so many moments just around Clackamas, one in particular in Clackamas, we're driving around. It's a fucking gorgeous day. Yeah, we lit up a fucking J, which is wild. We're like smoking a joint in the truck, driving around, just asking to get fucking pulled over. But and playing loud music. We were playing, um damn, the no doubt, uh, underneath it all. Oh dude, dude, what a and and his bass in that fucking what a perfect, another perfect song.
SPEAKER_03That's a beautiful that's a fucking great perfect fucking song.
SPEAKER_06That's another one of my favorites. Yeah. So it was like that, and I just still I remember where we used to live in the um Caldera. Yeah, down that road. What is that road? Whatever, it doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're driving down there and we're playing that, and it's a like a perfect 80-degree day, everything's down, and I'm like, this is one of those moments where and you're in real time and you go, This is one of the best moments right now. Yeah, this like I'm in a this is a good era, yeah. And you just it's one of those things I think we all it's so intoxicating. Dude, you want to you want to bottle that, you want to just like bottle that up and I wish I could feel it. And you almost it's like chasing the dragon. You I want to have it.
SPEAKER_03But you can't, it's so organic. You can't recreate it. I know you could put the song on and be like, I love this song, it's a good day, but it's not gonna give you that that feeling, and everyone knows that feeling. It's hard to describe that feeling. I'm sure there's some crazy words. It's euphoria, but it's just like this is a good fucking day. This is a good moment. Yeah, perfect moment.
SPEAKER_06It's a perfect moment. We had no worries in life. Yeah, we were old enough to have you know people, you know, your parents trusted you know like you know, but no real responsibility. It was the perfect time. Yeah, and it was just one of those moments. You're like, man, there's no bullshit in my life right now. Or if there is, I don't even care.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on in my life, but that's during that moment, I was like, That's the beauty of that's the beauty of music.
SPEAKER_06That's it.
SPEAKER_03When's the last time you went on a late night? Like, I love like a late night drive. The windows down in the summer, music. Like, I could do that all the time. I love that. I like just driving around in music. Sometimes I take the long way home and I'll loop twice because I'm like, I want to put a song on. And um, our daughter's gonna have fucking fantastic music taste, I think, between between the two of us.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, she'll be all over.
SPEAKER_03She's gonna be playing these songs and people are like, What's this? I'm like, what? So we all know this. No, it was amazing.
SPEAKER_06It's funny. We only mentioned like two top 40 songs. I know.
SPEAKER_03I'm like, she's gonna be.
SPEAKER_06She's gonna be so in-depth with all these top 100 billboard songs.
SPEAKER_03No, dude. We have some deep cuts. We have some fucking deep cuts.
SPEAKER_06We do, but there is like that moment, and then I had another, I don't even remember the song, but yeah, it's those drives, like, um, do you know the the the the lookout point, the Vista? Yeah.
unknownWhat is it?
SPEAKER_06Vista House. Vista house. Yeah. Okay. Dude, you want to talk about a good drive? If you ever want to just have a day and you're like, I need to just go, dude, get out in that area, take off from my parents' house and drive to Vista from here, and you get into that Gresham and you're in the back road area, one of the best. What is she losing her mind?
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Do you want to try and rescue or uh oh, I hear her freaking out.
SPEAKER_03This is good though. We have this and all the stuff we talked about.
SPEAKER_06Well, let's let's go a little bit, let's go a little bit more.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I mean and I think that that's kind of ties into you always asked me, like, you know, we never got around to talking about why I want to do ayahuasca and all that. And you're always like, How do you why do you what are you trying to find? Like, what do you that okay?
SPEAKER_06I don't say it like that. I'm genuinely curious. Okay, she's fine. She's fine. I was genuinely curious because you always you always talked about it. Yeah. And I I've always heard about it, but I never really like asked you, well, what are you searching for? Nobody is searching for man.
SPEAKER_03It's like when I was doing shrooms one time and um I was having a really good time, and then the guy I was with, my buddy, we're literally literally giggling, and he looks at me and he goes, Why don't you ever let people in? And I'm like, Oh, come on. And I literally started like melting into the wall. Like I was like, holy fuck. And it just like completely changed my trip. I was like, this is terrible. I'm having a terrible time. I gotta go home. Because it was just like so funny, giggly. Why don't you let people in? I'm like, what? And I'm like fading into the wall. Anyway, the reason I want to do it, it's not like I'm I think I'm searching and like I've we've talked about this before. There, I think there's a part of everyone that they can't actually tap into because our brains can't comprehend it. It our brains can't, we we we just can't get there, um, unfortunately, without some kind of drug. And you can search for yourself and all these things and blah blah blah and find a lot, but I feel like there's this part of my soul that I need to really tap into and I can't comprehend it with my own brain. Does that make sense? Like a sober brain. Like I can't I can't search that deep because I don't want to, because I think my brain's like it.
SPEAKER_06Okay, I I understand that. So I guess your answer is I don't know what I'm searching for, but I am searching.
SPEAKER_03There's something you're not looking for something specific. No, but I just feel like there's something in me that I need to explore. Yes. Yeah. There's like a deeper part of my soul that I need to explore. And I think that when you go to like these retreats where you do a guided um shroom trip and things like that, like you see things that you wouldn't normally see because you're sober.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And I know people are gonna be like, well, you're on drugs. So and it's like, okay, yeah. But there is a potential and there's a part of our souls and our bodies that we need to tap into to reach a certain energy level that we can't tap into soberly because well, it's clouded with everything our daily. And so I don't think we're maximizing our potential and really finding that like happiness because we can't get there because there's always something blocking, and I think those things and those guided things, I'm not saying like doing drugs on the fucking street, I'm talking about a guided shroom trip with a shaman or an ayahuasca trip. Well, ayahuasca would be the ayahuasca's what I want to do, and that's just to purge your body, and I that's always been very enticing to me.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And so I just support you.
SPEAKER_06I mean, I've heard a lot of good things. I mean, you see people go like, oh, it was uh fucking insane, yeah. And I saw things that I didn't I didn't like, I didn't want to see. I my brain wouldn't allow me to realize this is the person I am, and it was very eye-opening.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_06And um, you know, and it's it's not a glamorous thing from everything I've heard. You're like shitting yourself, growing up, you're throwing up, like, and then and then you get to a point of like people have been said, you know, yeah, I it was terrifying and it was yeah, all this stuff, but I was able to see kind of who I was as a person, like what what what I represent and who I am to other people. You almost you're almost able to stand away outside of yourself, outside of your own body.
SPEAKER_03And I think that when you're trying to heal, like, and I'm always trying to heal, I think you need to, especially I think that you need to kind of step outside of yourself because you need to really tap into. I could sit here and go, why did I make that decision? Why did I do XYZ? Oh, well, because I was feeling this way, but there's something deeper of it. I want to know I want to see that and go, okay, this is the ugly side of me. I'd like to purge that. Or I want to figure out without a block what is that? What am I actually seeking? What am I actually feeling? And maybe I'll find that, maybe I won't, but I that's my main motivation. And it's not all negative things either. It's like, what makes me happy? Where's my peak radiation or or radiating happiness, not radiation? What where's my peak? Like, I'm radiating that happiness doing what? Like, I don't know. And maybe I maybe I'm making it out to be something that it's not actually gonna be, but that's you.
SPEAKER_06You are the type of person goes, but I won't know until I find out. So you know, and I don't want to live a life.
SPEAKER_03I don't want to live a life.
SPEAKER_06I never have God bless you for that. I don't just go in for it.
SPEAKER_03I always do. I just I never want to die and go, man, what it what would have happened if I would have just done it or said it or whatever.
SPEAKER_06Well, I mean, we're all gonna have those thoughts.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06We all imagine other, you know, alternative endings.
SPEAKER_03Right, but we think of things that we want to do and we're like, man, I wonder what that'd be like. And I'd like just do it. If you want to do an ayahuasca trip, do it. If you want to go skydiving, don't live your life going, that's really scary, but it could have been fun. Just try it. Maybe you hate it, but maybe you don't. Maybe you do it and you're like, and it is fun, by the way. It's very fun.
SPEAKER_06It's I was gonna say it's funny though, if someone were to judge, like, hey, who who here does like the shrooms and the tripping and the you know, I won't say just drugs, but yeah, but like that kind of stuff. I feel like people would honestly go, definitely Peyton. Definitely not the case. I don't do I I just I'm not I have no I I just do not. Yeah, isn't it is not my thing. Maybe I shouldn't even say it's not my thing. I I really haven't done any hallucinogens. I I just haven't. I it used to be because and it still is like the core is like I'm fucking scared to do it. Yeah truly. I I'm like I I don't even like not that I've done this recently, but when I was on Molly, yeah, I did I liked taking a tiny bit because you get kind of that, but you know, people would take enough and they were like rolling, right? Yeah, and dude, everyone, everyone's like, dude, it's the best. It's the best. Well, dude, I took that amount that other everyone else was doing, I was so uncomfortable. I was having anxiety. I'm like, I don't like, I don't like body highs. Yeah, I don't like that. I just it's different from everybody.
SPEAKER_03Everyone's got their own everybody's got their own journey.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I'm you know that's okay. And people have said, like, yeah, you should do some shrooms, and you know, like you, you're like, you should.
SPEAKER_03Okay, I'm not and I'm not doing shrooms all the time, by the way. No, no one's I don't think anyone thinks so saying I did it, I have done it. Yes.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I've had like what like a microdose with you, but that was basically just being high.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I mean, it wasn't anything like I was fucking tripping, dude.
SPEAKER_03And then we had that music that music. Remember I put the Native American Oh, and yeah. That was a great time.
SPEAKER_06Oh, yeah. That was a really like that was I started la sorry, all right guys. Well, we hooked up, but she played this like spiritual music.
SPEAKER_03I wanted to take him on a spiritual journey through sex because I think that there you to be truly connected to someone, right? You know, and there's a way to do it.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna let her do her side and then you guys then you hear it it's gonna end the same.
SPEAKER_03It's gonna end the same. So for me, spiritual guided sex is the difference, and it it's better. You're so connected with that person, and yes, it it entailed things where you have a blindfold because it's just about touch, and then you have your eyes were covered, mine were not.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_03Mine were not, because it's about just the sensation of touch, and then yes, there is like some Native American music.
SPEAKER_06So that's playing, and it was like the music was like it was it was like a Native American, but it was almost like synth, like it's like chanting, but there's also like an animal noises, and there's well there was that, but it was but it was like that lo-fi synth, like I don't know, like just a vibe.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Okay. So were we both? I guess I did like yeah, alright. Um she didn't you didn't like present it to me like that. It was just kind of a thing. You're like, I wanna let's do this. I'm like, okay, I'm like, you know, typical guy. I'm like, well, I guess I'm getting it later. So I guess I'll take what I can get.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06But you know, at first you hear this like Native American fucking stuff, and I typical me, and you do it too. I think you even kind of giggled a little bit. You were definitely more spiritually into it. Um but let me tell you, I don't know what that me. The music was I will never fucking dog that shit ever again. There is something about the Native American music, not just for sex, but just in general. It it's a very spiritual sound thing. It was just it it was I I felt like I was at a spa retreat at one moment. And then yeah, I think it was like one of the top best like sexual experiences between you and I. I mean, it was like whoa. I mean, we've I've never have felt that connected.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06It was it was something else. Yeah. Yeah. And like, you know, the first uh what like 10 minutes is like it's like kind of like I'm like, okay, like not not not trying to like make fun of it, because yeah, I wasn't, but I wasn't in it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06And then all of a sudden you're just like you're in this moment, and it was uh I know it sounds corny, but it it was beautiful. It was like, whoa, dude.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Because there's an art to it, and it's your intention starting to swell up over here.
SPEAKER_06No, I'm kidding. Just just like thinking about like, you know, and we'll be right back. Come back, we're both out of breath.
SPEAKER_03Hey, how are you guys doing? That's it.
SPEAKER_06It wasn't the same, but still pretty good.
SPEAKER_03Fat out of breath. Stop.
SPEAKER_06I'm bringing that up again. Um, yeah, I think no one would peg you to be the the spiritual true I you're spiritual. I know they would think that, but they I think they'd be like, definitely put. It's like, no, I'm a fucking I'm a I'm a bitch. I I get scared. I have no I don't not that I'm not searching for anything.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_06I think I'm always searching for something.
SPEAKER_03I think everybody's searching for something.
SPEAKER_06Always. I I am always internally searching, like, why is this make me this way? Why but I I as of right now, I I feel like I don't need something. I need to I for the most part I I know what brought this on, or if I don't, I can really sit down and think about it, or and and sometimes I'm not that curious. Um I don't know. I I'm not like sometimes I'm just not that curious, but I just I I also don't really want to know some of the things. You know, which I just I already get so uncomfortable having that body high, and I don't like not having dare I say control. Dare you say dare I say control. Um yeah, it's like with fucking let's go back to Molly. I didn't like that because I was it was like so like whoa, I don't this is so much, and I can't just like sober up or and it's when you're in it, you're fucking in it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Meanwhile, I'm like, I love everybody here, I love you, I love you.
SPEAKER_06I like the 20-minute drugs. Yeah. We won't get into what those are. No. Yeah, um, even like I like you know, smoking pots fine, but even there, I'm like, uh just a little bit, just a puff or two. I cannot get fucking blasted anymore. I don't know how we used to do that. I don't know. We would get so fucking not even because we have a child. No. Before that, we were like, dude, it's just so much. It's just not no and then you just sit there and you're so fucked up.
SPEAKER_03It used to be fun. When you were younger, it was fun. You'd get giggly and you're like I remember one time my friend Because you know you're doing
SPEAKER_06Like a bad alright, I'm here. Let's talk about some pot stories. This is fun.
SPEAKER_03Well, I remember one time it's like stupid now, but it's not stupid. We were we were high in she was doing she had a blanket and pretended it was a cape and she was singing on my stairs like the phantom of the opera. Hilarious. We were literally cackling. Like we thought it was the funniest thing we've ever seen in our lives. One time, you know, one of my good friends and I, we were waiting for the pizza guy, and we had hotboxed my car, and we were sitting in the car waiting for him. And then when he pulled up on the driveway, we opened the door, the smoke's like bellowing out, like, hey, thanks, man. He's like, Oh my god. And we just thought it was so just and then one time when I was working at the movie theater in high school, I took an edible from someone that we worked with, and they were like, Hey, this is really potent. And I was like, Oh, it's fine. So I ate it at work, and then I was on the cash register. I was working in the when back when the movie theater had the um god, what a gamble. The cafe, they don't have it anymore, but back when they did, oh my god. And I remember this guy was like, Can I get a milkshake? And I was like, Yep. And I could not get the consistency of like the liquid. It's like too soupy or too hot, too much. And I felt like no matter how much ice cream I put in it, it was still soupy. And finally I was like, it's fine. And I was like, okay, and then he paid me and I had to count his catch out. Oh my god. Dude, I fucking forgot how to count. I couldn't count.
SPEAKER_06I was like, Oh, you were fucked.
SPEAKER_03Fucked up. And I'm looking at this and I'm like, I have to give them change. And I was like, the dollars made sense, but as soon as I got to the coins, I was like, what? Like all the coins equal the same, but they're different sizes. So I was like, I know that they mean different numbers, but I was so fucking blasted I couldn't even like remember. I don't I probably gave him like way too much money. Our till was probably off. So I was just like, I don't fucking know, man. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_06What a fucking wild up until like what when was pot legalized here? Like 2015 or some shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, something like that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it's it's been like that. When we were buying pot and eating brownies that someone fucking what a gamble. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Do you ever think like how Yeah, but it wasn't like it is today. It w it wasn't. Like you're you'd be weed from like a buddy, you know.
SPEAKER_06No, what I'm saying is like you would get one from your buddy, yeah, and and he would go, you know, it's a trusted person. Right. And they go, hey man, this shit's strong. Just but you don't know what that does is like one corner gonna fucking annihilate you. Oh yeah, you just had to just go for it. Just go for it. Yeah, holy shit. Yeah, and we did. I I always did. Yeah. Even even fucking buying weed, we'd have to go in some guy's fucking apartment, or he'd be driving up to you in a fucking hatchback. It's a civic, always a civic hatchbag, and they always had a shitty, rattly fucking bass. Yep. They were always and they always and I know someone's done done like the a comedy bit on this, but it is the truth. Every time you buy fucking weed from one of these guys, you'd be like down to your last $20, and you're like, I'm gonna buy a dub. Yeah. Then you had to like smoke them out. He's like, You want to smoke? It's like, you're the one with all the pot, and you're like, load up your bowl, yeah, with your own weed, and you're like, come on, man. Yeah, you're not even like my fucking friend. I'm you're my drug dealer. Yeah, barely knew you. Barely fucking. It was what a weird fucking time. But it's so fun. Oh, yeah. Check out. How dangerous. Yeah. How fucking you're it's it goes against everything your parents always told you. Don't get in fucking cars with strangers and buy drugs.
SPEAKER_03Um, we're gonna do fucking both of them.
SPEAKER_06We're gonna say fuck you guys on that. This guy's not a stranger, he's a drug dealer.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. My buddy who knows his brother, who knows his.
SPEAKER_06Fucking weird.
SPEAKER_03My brother's best friends.
SPEAKER_06How irritating too. You would wait, I'd wake up, be like nine o'clock in the morning. You're like, man, we should get some fucking pot right now. Yeah. None of them ever woke up until fucking, they couldn't get back to you until one. Yeah. Like, oh my god, dude. Please, or they wouldn't answer you back, yeah, leave you hanging. You're like, oh my god, this is the worst. Yeah. This is the worst.
SPEAKER_03It's built a generation. Damn it.
SPEAKER_06Not just a generation, a whole, but multiple generations. It used to be fun. Like your sister's generation, your younger sister, she's like, she they never did that. They they always had fucking pots in it.
SPEAKER_03They don't have to do that because it's legal. They can just get their older sibling to get it for them.
SPEAKER_06Not that you do.
SPEAKER_03I wasn't saying me, I'm saying in general. Whereas us, we had to get creative. We had to, you know, meet someone in a frickin' park abandoned parking lot.
SPEAKER_06Meet them at Safeway Parking Lot by the sherries. Or outside their fucking apartment complex because they didn't want you in their apartment. Because they didn't fucking know.
SPEAKER_03Or in their apartment and they're just fucking disgusting in there. Yeah. You want to sit down and smoke? You're like, nope, I'm not gonna sit down.
SPEAKER_06But you almost feel like you're obligated to do it. Not me. I'm out.
SPEAKER_03See ya. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. Now no one has fun. Now we have cameras on every fucking door, and there's no house parties anymore. There's nothing.
SPEAKER_06Well, it's also the Gen Z. No, I know.
SPEAKER_03Their generation just Well Actually, I think it now isn't there a study out that people are drinking less.
SPEAKER_06Uh-huh. Like we are the the millennial generation. We set the fucking record for the most like we were the heaviest drinking fucking generation. You would think that that would be like in the s the 80s or the fucking 60s or whatever, because everyone was like we were the hardest fucking partying generation. Well, and of course we are, because Molly fucking exploded.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06What get what was one of the big songs? It was like Asheras college fucking songs. The whole fucking drink. Everything. Everything was like, it's a fucking party. And dude, what a time to be alive.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06We threw fucking house parties every weekend.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_06There were no ring cameras. Nope. As a parent. I mean, sorry, kiddo, but you're not going to be throwing it.
SPEAKER_03And it's like we don't want to encourage partying, but also like it's a fucking missing out. Because it was so great to network and meet people. Like outside of fucking high school. Outside of school, it was like, yo, we're all gonna be here. We're all gonna be standing in some random person's kitchen. We're gonna make friends. We're gonna do this. We're gonna make connections. Now kids don't have that. They don't have connections. It's like, I guess if you play sports, but if you're not a sports person, good luck making connections. Yeah. It's all over the internet, and that's why people are so fucking weird and they can't speak and they're not independent anymore. I'm not saying it all relates to partying, but that's a a big chunk.
SPEAKER_06It was fucking fun.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You blasting music, you're and you make some memories. Now there's no fucking memories. These kids aren't making any memories. They're just doing it for the gram. It sucks. It just sucks.
SPEAKER_06I'm so happy. I dude, some of the shit that we did. And it's not like we there wasn't Instagram when we were doing this.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we had Snap, but it wasn't like it is today where people aren't filming you constantly the whole day getting fucked up.
SPEAKER_06Constantly. Yeah. There was a lot of moments.
SPEAKER_03Photos, but it's like you kept it to yourself. You didn't have to worry about someone like posting it of you, or and then you're also just living in the moment. You're not doing things and then being like, oh, is someone's phone out? You're just having fun.
SPEAKER_06Still one of my favorite pictures. I think Shaley took it. It was me with a blow-up doll, and we were at a party. But that was like one of those moments. It's like take a shot of like, oh, he's got a fucking I'm like, or I would like grab the blow-up doll and probably I probably was like, take a photo of this. Yeah. But it wasn't like I'm gonna fucking record everything you did all night, and there's phones everywhere, and it's yeah, everyone's just sitting on their phone, like people were talking and having fun.
SPEAKER_03No one was like sitting in the corner on their phone the whole time, like snap, like I don't know. It just was different, it's just a lot different than that.
SPEAKER_06And everyone was trying to get fucked up. Yeah, everyone's taking Jaeger shots, and fireball shots.
SPEAKER_03At least my friends, we all kind of like looked out for each other too. So it was like, you're gonna get drunk, but I'm I'm here with you. I'm not gonna leave you. You're not gonna like I always if my if I had to drive, I wasn't drinking and driving.
SPEAKER_06Oh, I was taking my friends that wasn't my friend group.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I was taking my friends home if they needed no, it was always me. Like I would drink when I got there, I'd take a couple shots, and then by the end of the night, I'd be sobered up and I could take everyone home. And I didn't mind doing that. No, I was responsible. I would say I was responsible. Yeah, I never drilled drunk.
SPEAKER_06For the most part, what a fucking fun time. Yeah, it was so fun. The music was fun, the music was fun. And the music and the and just like pop culture was about partying. Yeah, Project X came out. Like that came out. EDM fucking popped off hard. Raves.
SPEAKER_03We're going to rave hookah lounges.
SPEAKER_06Oh, I never did. Well, I did like that once or twice.
SPEAKER_03We had a light up, we had a down downstairs. My dad set up like a hookah place, and it was all black light. And so we had all these tapestries up in our basement. That was cool. And it was black light, and so everyone came over and we'd all smoke hookah.
SPEAKER_06That's fun, man. You're like, ah, you guys are all fucking. I remember Zach had a hookah. It was no setup like that, but no, it was a whole thing.
SPEAKER_03Like it was the play, it was the spot to go when Cindy was in high school. And then little me, I'm like eighth grade. Oh, God. I'm like, me too, you guys.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna smoke down. And I did. Hookah was fun. Hookah was fun. I was I never really liked the hookah lounges. The only one I went to was in Gresham. Yeah. I think that was like the only one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's still there. Yeah, it's I hated it. It's not gonna be.
SPEAKER_06It fucking back then. I'm like, this place is fucking gross. Yeah. It's like I feel like this is where you buy fucking meth too. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's like wipe the seat before you sit down. You know, dude.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it was always that kind of joint is fucking grimy. But it was fun. It was fun. It was good times. Um oh, I well, this is what I was playing. I wasn't planning on ending it on this, but you were saying that so Champagne Supernova, we'll go back to that real quick. You thought that took you back to 2016? Or or that energy.
SPEAKER_03That energy.
SPEAKER_06I have a song, and I it I think the song came out way before like, yeah, way before 2016. Cue it up for me. Or unl let me see your phone real quick. Is it still connected?
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_06This is a song that reminds me of 2016 summer.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_06Not kids is great.
SPEAKER_02This is like a movie. This is like an ex like the exit song.
SPEAKER_06This puts me 2016. We're all getting ready to party tonight. We're in the car. Someone's got a bottle, someone's got a bag. We'll let this one play out, guys. Another podcast. Party. Party out. Little little. I love you.