How a Clairvoyant Content Creator Approaches Haunted Dolls and Ghost Hunting w/ Kelsi Davies | Ghost City Podcast

She calls herself “the creepy girl with the dolls” online, but Kelsi Davies is far more than a viral paranormal creator. We sit down and trace the story from the beginning: a childhood filled with funerals, vivid dreams, and the unsettling feeling of knowing the dead were still present while everyone else insisted they were gone. That confusion turns into a mission as she builds a community for people who’ve had psychic, mediumship, or clairvoyant experiences and never knew who to tell. 

We go deep on haunted dolls, especially Lola, the doll Kelsi says carries an intelligent presence that responds through spirit boxes, REM pods, and other ghost hunting tools. Kelsi shares how she thinks “hauntings” work, from residual energy to spirits choosing objects as a kind of vessel, and why she believes consciousness can fragment rather than simply disappear. If you’ve ever wondered how a paranormal investigator separates vibe, imagination, and evidence, this conversation stays honest about uncertainty while still pushing for validation. 

Then the episode widens into bigger questions: why skepticism can be healthy, why intuition seems to show up more often in women, and what it’s like to investigate some of the most haunted locations in the US. We also talk about vivid nightmares, sleep paralysis, and the idea of involuntary astral projection, plus Kelsi's plant medicine experiences that reshaped her view of reality and purpose. Along the way, we connect the paranormal to consciousness, spirituality, and the modern pull of technology that leaves many people craving something deeper. 

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Transcript

Spiritual Lens And Introductions

Kelsi Davies 0:00

I believe every single person has the capability of tapping into what everything is, because we're all spirits having a human experience. And uh that's what I kind of try to I try to give comfort because if there was somewhere a community I could go to when I was younger online, I didn't grow up with everything being online, it was all very new. Um, and if I had somewhere to go where I felt seen and heard, I would have been less confused, less scared.

Tim Nealon 0:33

All right, guys, this is Tim, and I'm back with another episode of the Ghost City Podcast. And today I'm being joined by Kelsey Davies, who's out in Los Angeles. Um, we were chatting a little bit before we came on air. I know a little bit about Kelsey. I know that you're super popular online. I know that you have a cute little cat somewhere there around you. And I apparently we're gonna have a competition about who can drink the most caffeine throughout this podcast. But other than that, Kelsey, welcome to the podcast. And thank you for having me. Yeah, no problem. And uh I mean, let's start this off right. So there's gonna be some people out there that might not know who you are, Kelsey. Who are you? And why are we and why are we why are we even interviewing you?

Kelsi Davies 1:17

Uh my name is Kelsey Davies. I'm an actress, content creator, and a clairvoyant. So I see and speak to the dead, and I've had this since I was young, and I decided to start embracing it online and just sharing my journey, and it started resonating with a lot of people. Um, so I do like full-length paranormal investigations on my YouTube channel, and I think I have like 3.1 million subscribers on there now, and then my TikTok blew up because of my haunted dolls. So I'm I'm the creepy girl with the dolls, if I ever pop up on your for you page on TikTok. And uh I have I think I have 6.2 million people on there, which is crazy now. Um, but yeah, I got all the spooky people.

Tim Nealon 2:03

So you're gonna be really impressed with this. Um like I don't do TikTok or anything like that, but I have Instagram. Wanna guess how many followers I have on Instagram?

Kelsi Davies 2:12

Ooh, hmm. I'm getting 400,000.

Tim Nealon 2:16

Oh my god, uh absolutely fuck freaking not. Um, I have 16,000 followers.

Kelsi Davies 2:22

And uh like like Ghost City has 15,000 or 16,000?

Tim Nealon 2:26

16. Like, I am not advanced at all. No, come on.

Kelsi Davies 2:29

That's great though. No, that's that's imagine 16,000 people sitting in a room.

Tim Nealon 2:34

Yeah. Um that's crazy.

Kelsi Davies 2:36

That's that's great.

Tim Nealon 2:37

Well, well, see, I just put pictures of lizards and stuff online.

Kelsi Davies 2:41

Okay.

Tim Nealon 2:41

That's all I do. Yeah, I mean I saw your face. So, like, yeah, well, like here's the chameleon I found today. Uh, that's really all I am. But you are are your your focus is on the paranormal and and you know, the the exploration of the unknown, I guess you could say. And, you know, when I was reading a little bit about you before we jumped on the air, you know, I I found out, and and you kind of hinted to towards us a little bit, this is not a new thing for you, right? This idea of the paranormal being a part of your life. It sounds like it started pretty early.

Kelsi Davies 3:10

Yeah, it was always a thing growing up. And I just I thought everyone knew it was there. I didn't think that there was any controversy between if it was real or not, because I always just had these experiences. I was really terrified of it because I didn't understand it. Right. And my mom, she grew up like more Catholic. So she was kind of like ignorance is bliss, and she'd be like, Oh, it's just a dream, you know. Uh, like she'd kind of brush it off a little bit because she, I think she's more afraid of it.

Tim Nealon 3:41

Right.

Kelsi Davies 3:42

Um, and then my dad, my dad had quite a few experiences. He grew up in a haunted house and stuff, but he none of us never really shared any of that when I was growing up. Um, and then later on in life, I started like being more vocal about it. And then I found out some of my cousins have predicted deaths in their families and they've had all these experiences. And it runs on the Native American side of my family. My uh great grandma, grand or wait, my great-great grandma, great grandma, and um my grandpa's brother, they were all like psychics and mediums, and they had the native Sisitan Wapatin Sioux descent. Okay, and no one told me for years. I had to dive in and figure it out. So that took me, I was like, why didn't anyone tell me this? And then my sister started being more vocal about her experiences. And I was like, why were we all like so secretive about this thing, you know?

Tim Nealon 4:39

So it's been interesting. Well, growing up like that, like did it did you often feel like you like you, like you were kind of alone to handle all that thing, you know? And I don't even know what happened to you when you were a kid that that you know made you see these things. But did you often feel like you'd like you were just kind of like in a place where you didn't really have anybody to talk to and you were you were just trying to figure out what this all meant as a young child?

Funerals Growing Up With The Dead

Kelsi Davies 5:01

Yeah, I mean, uh we went to a I went to more funerals than weddings growing up. Like there was a lot of young deaths in in our family. Um, and so we would go to funerals all the time. And I just remember being at funerals and I knew the person was there at the funeral, but I was like, everyone's sobbing and saying they're gone. And I'm like, but they're not, they're not gone. Right. Like, so I remember just being really confused and just knowing that person was at there, because they usually attend their own funerals, you know. I would like to be like, all right, that girl I didn't like showed up, get her out of here, you know? But um I'd have things like that, and then I would have these insane dreams where I would be like in spiritual realms and I would go to different like dimensions of um where I would be around all of these people I knew were dead, and they knew I was living, and they would be confused as to why I was there. And I would dream of deceased family members and they would give me messages, and then I would dream of things before they would happen. And like it was just something that happened all the time that I was just confused about.

Tim Nealon 6:14

Um so for you it wasn't so for you it wasn't a feeling of like there's something wrong with me. It was almost like, and I'm and I'm just guessing here, it was almost like you viewed like other people as if there was something wrong with them, not there's something wrong with me. It's there's something wrong with them. Why can't they see it? Like that's kind of how Yeah.

Kelsi Davies 6:32

I just I thought it was just a normal, like I thought everyone had these things. So I didn't think it was anything super far out of the ordinary. Um, and then I would go to school and tell other kids about my experiences. Then they would say, like, oh, you're lying, blah, blah, blah, you know, they would just not believe me. So I just kind of was like, oh, okay, maybe this is maybe I'm just weird and like maybe I have maybe I should like figure this out, you know. And so I kind of kept it to myself for a long time. Um, and I think a lot of people out there feel the same way because there's like I believe every single person has the capability of tapping into what everything is, because we're all spirits having a human experience. And uh that's what I kind of try to I try to give comfort because if there was somewhere a community I could go to when I was younger online, you know, I didn't grow up with everything being online, it was all very new. Um, and if I had somewhere to go where I felt seen and heard, I would have been less confused, less scared. Um, you know, and so that's why I created this space for people.

Tim Nealon 7:40

You know, it you know, your story, it kind of sounds, you know, I I, you know, we talk to a lot of people here, not just on the podcast, but um, you know, your your your story sounds so similar to other stories that we've heard. So I'm willing to bet if you had those opportunities to realize there's other people out there and everything you were looking for, you probably wouldn't be who you are today. Because I really think that that shapes who you are. We were talking to uh, who was it, Paul? Elizabeth Saint. I don't know if you know Elizabeth Saint. But she she's a parental one investigator. She's been on a lot of those shows like Ghosts of Shepherd's Town, and you know, she's worked with Nick Groff and those guys quite a bit. And you know, as you're telling me her story, like I kept having flashbacks to her story, like this idea of like I was a kid growing up, you know, and uh you know, I didn't really have anybody to talk to, but I was experiencing these things and I didn't know how to process them. Like I like it and hers actually sounded a little bit more traumatic, like than than yours. I think you did you handled it way better than Elizabeth. Um but yeah, but funny enough, I mean it depends.

Kelsi Davies 8:42

Yeah, like it depends on the experience.

Tim Nealon 8:45

Well, it's it's funny because what she did is she grew up and and today she's a content creator. And and when I was asking her about it, she kept saying things like, Well, you know, this is me now finding my voice that I feel that I didn't have back then, you know, and maybe that's kind of what you're doing too. Like, you know, now that you have this platform and this voice and you feel comfortable expressing it, you know, you're making up for lost time in a sense, you know.

Kelsi Davies 9:09

Yeah, it's been a spiritual journey. Like it's just been, I mean, people have just followed me along on just my life journey of just discovering who I am and finding myself and and my spiritual journey on top of it, which goes hand in hand. So it's just really been a life-changing, crazy ride, and I'm just so grateful to be on it, you know.

Tim Nealon 9:32

Yeah, it's it's definitely a fun one. So, so when did this start to become serious for you? I mean, because now you're at the point where you're you're pretty damn well known um, you know, in this space for somebody who not only has an interest in the paranormal and ghosts and you know, uh mediumship, like all these things, but you're you're actually practicing, you know, so you're you're you're doing these things. So where did that happen? Or where did you decide uh you know, I've been talking to these things for a while. I think I'm gonna start making an effort. Uh yeah, like I don't know, like a relationship with them.

Kelsi Davies 10:08

Gosh, I'm trying to think because I I started like wanting to do social media itself and because I wanted to be an actress and a dancer, and um, that's you know, when I kind of started posting dancing videos and acting and just like silly things. And then like I don't know what happened. I think it was just this whole spiritual awakening I had.

Haunted Dolls Go Viral Online

Kelsi Davies 10:32

I wanted to get on a doll because I was having all these experiences I just didn't understand. I would love to ghost hunting, love going to these places, uh, wanted to just like embrace something that I was afraid of as a child. I couldn't watch paranormal activity, I couldn't watch any horror movies with ghosts as a kid because it freaked me out. Yeah, um, because I knew it was real, you know. So I kept going and like I wanted to get a haunted doll to just like explore it a little more and just see. And then that video just took off. And then I kept posting about her and like trying to understand her and having experiences with her, and um, people just loved it and resonated, and it was something that a lot of people weren't doing on social media at the time, like it was something so new. I mean, there was always like paranormal videos and things, and people who would talk about stories, but no one had like hair, you know, this whole journey of finding this haunted doll. This haunted doll's actually like a kind spirit asking questions, asking her about daily activities and things, or asking uh to help with my makeup, like just interacting in such an in-depth, intelligent way, but also kind of comedically.

Tim Nealon 11:53

So your doll, so so your doll was, and I don't mean this like an insulting way, I'm just making sure I understand, was offering to help you with your makeup.

Kelsi Davies 12:04

Yeah, so I literally I would really do these sessions.

Tim Nealon 12:09

Okay, because I was gonna say that sounds a little crazy. I'm not saying that you are, the doll is.

Kelsi Davies 12:13

Oh, it's it's insane, but it's like so it's funny. That's how like I think that's what captures people's attention, also is like this is insane, but she's actually getting these intelligent responses on the spirit box and the REM pods and you know, all my equipment, like it's undeniable, just intelligent responses, but it's like kind of silly, but it's you know, I mean, spirits are energy, everything's energy, and like joy is uh one of the highest frequencies, and laughter and just having fun. Spirits don't want to just dread around and be like I died because this happened. Like they're it's all energy. Oh, that that's you know, they want to have fun sometimes.

Tim Nealon 12:58

That's 100% the ghost I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be the ghost that just walks around like like ee or like woe is me. I'm dead. Nobody loves me. Um so those ghosts do exist, and if they don't, I'm gonna be the first. Um the the haunted doll thing. So so here's where I am on haunted dolls. Like I've been doing the paranormal investigation thing for about 20 years, so I have a pretty open mind. I think you have to have an open mind to be able to venture into the space, anyways. Right. But I've always I haven't doubted the ideas that dolls or objects can be haunted. I'm still very much on the fence. Um we actually bought two. Do you know uh Haley? What's Haley's name? Haley Michelle? She goes by like the paranormal princess. So we bought two of our haunted dolls. Okay. And we actually have them in the studio with us. So we bought these kind of as an experiment because I I was curious. Like, I I in on one hand, I'm like, you know, the idea of a haunted doll kind of sounds a little crazy to me, but I sound silly, yeah. But but I I I am one of those people I'm always happy to be wrong because I can have a thought, but at the same time also know that I I don't know everything. Like just because I haven't had an experience with a haunted doll doesn't mean that it can't be real. So we we talked to her and so we got two of them in, and Paul got me really excited before because before we started recording, I was like, hey, did does any like weird shit start happening in the podcast room? He's like, Yeah, like a lot. And then I I re instantly realized he was kidding. I was like, Paul, you're an ass. Because I was like, oh my god, like what is happening with uh with the haunted dolls? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like I like I want it to be true. Um, but you're you're haunted. So just so that I and the other audience understand, so you have a haunted doll and and there is a spirit attached to it, just like a singular spirit that you know is kind of like representative or of your doll, or like is it yeah, like so who do you know who this is?

Kelsi Davies 14:55

Yeah, yes. So I mean, most of these dolls behind me uh as we're doing this podcast are haunted. Um some of them I'm like, I've got some, and I'm like, I think there's more of just a residual energy. But if you think about it too, I I don't know everything, I don't claim to know everything. I'm still trying to understand things, you know, um, as we all are, and we might never understand, and that's okay.

Lola And How Spirits Attach

Kelsi Davies 15:20

But what from what I've collected is we're all a part of this collective divine consciousness, and like we're all fractals of it, basically. And so when the body dies, a fractal of your your consciousness is its energy. Energy can either be created or destroyed, so that energy will remain, but it can also like separate and be in multiple spots at once, those fractals of your consciousness, if that makes sense. And so I believe that sometimes like some of the consciousness remains with the doll or something that, you know, if the spirit's not ready to move on or a part of them is not ready to move on, like I don't know how it all works again. Uh, you know, I'm trying to comprehend. But if, you know, they see a doll that looked very similar to them in life and they're not ready to raise their frequencies, move on to, you know, a higher frequency out of the earth realm, which is a lower frequency. Um, if they're not ready to move on, like why not attach to a vessel that connects them to this realm in some way? And they picked and and she picked uh so this is Lola. She picked this doll because it looks a lot like her in life and it reminds her of her. And you know, maybe maybe she would have wanted a doll like that in life. And she died when she was 18 years old, uh, during like the Spanish flu pandemic. So it was she was born in 1901, died in 1919, and um she was just 18, so she was not ready to go yet. So she, you know, I think she maybe wanted to find some object to like remain with. And it's just been amazing the the responses I've gotten with her, and how many people have had experiences with her. I'll have people meet her and they feel like this this presence, or they'll have anxiety, and all of a sudden they feel so calm with her. It's just really fascinating. And I think also like it has a part of me with her too now, a part of my energy also. So it has like that to charge up in a way, because we're all like, God, I don't even know how to explain it sometimes. I'm just like, I sound insane, but if you know, you know. If you get it, you get it.

Tim Nealon 17:45

I mean, I've been in this whole paranormal game for 20 plus years, so I totally understand what it's like to talk to people about this and have the thought in my head, this person thinks I'm out of my mind. This person thinks I'm crazy. Um, like actually, right before we walked in here, we were talking about Bigfoot. We're getting ready to do something really cool with Bigfoot. And interesting. That's the one where people are like, Tim, like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, really, like you believe in Bigfoot and you're gonna go look for him. I'm like, yeah. Um, but so I can't Why not?

Kelsi Davies 18:16

Why wouldn't there be Bigfoot? Like, I think there's many, many multidimensional things going on, and maybe sometimes dimensions bleed into one another. Right. And oh my god, I could go into I could dive into all of that, but uh like for me with aliens, I think that they're they're around us all the time. We just aren't at the frequency to interact with them or see them.

Tim Nealon 18:41

So so to go back to to Lola, right? Lola? So I I know the audience is gonna want to know, you know, you just said, like, you know, she was born in 1901, you know, she lived to be 18, all these things. How do you know this? I know the audience is gonna be like, how does this woman know all this stuff? Did the doll come with a card?

Kelsi Davies 18:58

Um Right, yeah. I mean, so I ordered her off of like from someone who sold haunted dolls, and I I like it was so weird because I was looking through a couple, and some of them I was just like, eh, it just looks like a creepy doll, you know. And then her, she wasn't creepy looking at all, but I looked at her photo and I felt I don't even know how to explain it. I felt something right when I looked at her photo, and I just bought her. It was just this weird impulse.

Tim Nealon 19:29

Yeah, I was gonna say that's I was gonna say that's how I got my wife, but then you said you bought her, and I was okay. Yeah, I hope you didn't buy feeling and I saw a picture and I just felt something. I'm like, oh, she's the one. But then you had to come out with the I bought her, and I was like, I that doesn't work anymore.

Kelsi Davies 19:43

Yeah.

Tim Nealon 19:44

Um, anyways, yeah, so well, so I I imagine.

Kelsi Davies 19:49

Yeah, so I I bought her, and then um I try to think of like I didn't even read anything about her, and then I like after I brought her home, you know, got her, I looked at the um thing online and it just had like a brief little summary of like the spirit with the doll.

Tim Nealon 20:09

Right.

Kelsi Davies 20:10

And I was like, okay, and so I started asking, like, I was like, let's let's ask the spirit, because I don't know how they got this information, you know, and a lot of the information was validated through spirit boxes, through I mean, I did a Ouija board with her before. I kept seeing her in this like white night one with uh long curly hair as uh as well as another medium. And um, my boyfriend, who was a skeptic at the time, he was I wasn't super open about all my stuff yet because we were kind of new to the relationship, didn't want to be like, honey, right by the one by I talked to the dead walking by my room, and he looked and he saw her and he walks up to me and his face was like pale, and he was like, I I think I just saw Lola in your room, and I was like, What do you mean? Explain her to me because I hadn't explained exactly what she looked like to him, and he was like, Okay, she's like pretty tall and very slender, and I was like, Yeah, and she has a white nightgown and really long curly dark hair, and I was like, Yes, yeah, you saw her, and he was like, Yeah, he stuck around though, right?

Tim Nealon 21:31

Well, that's good. So you guys started out you know finding out this information about her through, you know, I'm assuming EVP sessions as well, probably, and spirit boxes, he said the Ouija board. Um, boyfriend sees her. Um so what he saw, I'm assuming, is is like a full bodied apparition, not like the doll. But he saw like the spirit that's being and that's Lola. So one The way you described him seemed pretty calm, first of all. Like, oh, I just saw this thing in the room.

Kelsi Davies 22:06

He was um kind of taken aback. Uh, but he, I mean, he knew it like it was on a doll. He knew like something was gonna happen. He knows, you know, I was starting to be more vocal about things at the time. Sure. And I don't think he was, he was just it caught him off guard, but it's not like she came crawling towards him and he like freaking, you know what I mean? Like she was just there. He just saw a glimpse of her and he was just trying to process it. But he was definitely pale in the face.

Tim Nealon 22:35

I would just I would I would assume so because I've I've only ever seen two full-body operations ever. Both times like like the one was fairly early in my career in this, if you want to call it that. That scared the shit out of me completely. Um, yeah, the second time I was a lot more composed. It was almost like a like a shock followed by cure like almost immediate curiosity. Like I wasn't afraid of it right away. Um like it was just like oh, you know, like that. But yeah, I mean that's pretty good, especially if I'm assuming he's not a skeptic anymore, right?

Kelsi Davies 23:10

No, no, he's a full believer. Yeah, when I think it was when his grandfather came to me that he never told me about, and I knew all these things about him. Uh, that's when he was like, Okay. Okay.

Tim Nealon 23:24

So when you you said you you brought all these things up that he didn't know that you knew or how you how you would know.

Kelsi Davies 23:31

So you mentioned he had never, yeah, he had never like mentioned this grandfather to me because it he died when he was like five years old. Right. Um, but like I was like, he has this big coat on, and he has there's something like with this heart. I think he had a pacemaker or something, and he keeps showing me all his medals from I think he was in the air force. Um, and then I'm like, it's grandpa, and it starts with an R. I couldn't get the rest of I was like, Grandpa R. It starts with an R. And then um he was like, That's my grandpa rice, and he had a pacemaker, he had that big coat, he would wear it all the time, and he was in the the Air Force, so he had all these medals at his house, and that was one of Drew's memories is all his all his medals.

Tim Nealon 24:17

Yeah. So he was a pilot in World War II, World War II, I'm assuming, or Vienna.

Kelsi Davies 24:23

Probably.

Tim Nealon 24:23

Yeah.

Kelsi Davies 24:24

Some something like that.

Tim Nealon 24:26

So so where did you get this information from? Because one of the other things that you mentioned earlier was the idea of like clairvoyance, and you know, you kind of hinted at like, you know, um medium ship. And I'm always careful to throw those words out there because I offended somebody one time. I called them medium, and they're like, sir, I'm a psychic. And I'm like, excuse me.

Kelsi Davies 24:44

Oh it all falls under the same umbrella, in my opinion.

Tim Nealon 24:49

But yeah, me too. Um, so how did is is that how you found out about his grandpa, or was it through BvPs and stuff?

Kelsi Davies 24:57

No, it was through just

Clairvoyance Explained With Examples

Kelsi Davies 24:59

me. Um, so I in my like I don't know how to explain things sometimes, but I will have these the best way I think I explained this before is almost like a daydream. If you've ever had a daydream, never, and it's like you haven't.

Tim Nealon 25:16

No, I totally have. I was just being circumcised. Oh, okay.

Kelsi Davies 25:19

Some people haven't. I don't know. I daydream all the time.

Tim Nealon 25:22

Like that daydreaming is the only way I make it through the day. Like right. Yeah, like yeah, like right now, my daydream is like I don't live in Louisiana anymore. Um, yeah, because I hate it here. All right, Paul, I did it again. Um, it's just it's just too hot. That really, that's really what it comes down to. So every day I have daydream, like I want to move to like the Pacific Northwest and like walking.

Kelsi Davies 25:43

Yeah, you're like envisioning, like you see it, you're envisioning yourself, you see it. Some people don't see things like in their brain, like that's an actual thing, which is interesting.

Tim Nealon 25:53

But um, yeah, I so not to go on a soul, so not to go on a tangent there, but I found this out a couple weeks ago myself for real. It's funny you brought this up because uh my wife and I were laying in bed and I don't even remember what I was doing, but I and Paul I asked you this too, remember? Yeah, and uh and I said something, and I was like, Can you picture it in your mind? And she's like, No. And I'm like, so like when you think of things, like you're not seeing them in your brain, and she's like, No, I just I just know what they are. I go, so like if I say the word frog right now, like a picture of a frog doesn't pop into your head, she's like, no, and like it blew my mind. Like I'm laying in bed, like, how is this possible? Like, how like and I'm not thinking that she's an idiot or something, I'm thinking like like like is this like a lower form of like brain activity? But then I actually like because like to me, I I did I didn't know any different. Like, I just thought like you like I can visualize anything I want, and I can like no, then what did I ask you next? I was like, Can you I was like, if you can you imagine the smell of basil right now? And she's like, No, but like if I think of basil, I know what basil smells like, you know what I mean? Yeah, so like I'm totally like hijacking what you said, but this literally just happened a few weeks ago with my wife.

Kelsi Davies 27:02

Right. Where I was like, just like it's a thing, it like blows my mind because I see things like clear as day. I'm just very I mean, I've always been very creative, very artsy. I think it has a lot. I mean, there's a lot there, but like some people just are more, I don't know. I don't I don't get it. It bugs me.

Tim Nealon 27:22

Well, to me, it's like, how do you like live your life? Like, and and like, like, for example, like if I'm waking up in the morning, just simple things, like what do I want to wear that day? Like, I can picture in my head like the clothes I'm gonna wear that day. Like, so if you don't do that, do you like go to your closet and have to like look at them and like like just simple stuff? Like, and then I asked her, I was like, How do you get to work? And she's like, Well, I just know where to go. And I'm like, but you don't like visualize like going down the road and making it right, and like the whole thing just blew my mind. Like the but but it but in her defense, I I did a little research and I've actually found out that most people do that. Most people can't put those visual pictures in their mind and stuff, which you know explains a lot. Um, but you know, anyways, I totally hijacked your story there, but oh no, you're good.

Kelsi Davies 28:11

Yeah, but yeah, no, that's that's how I all see things almost like a daydream.

Tim Nealon 28:16

Yeah.

Kelsi Davies 28:17

And a lot of the time spirits will show me, they'll show me what they look like, they'll show me certain items of clothing that someone would understand because they know like they understand how I'll interpret it to give it to you know the person, basically. It's not like they'll come up to me and be like, hey, my name's Paul. You know, uh like I won't hear it, but every once in a while I'll hear something and it freaks me out and I don't like that. Um, so I I see things more, which is why I say clairvoyance is my strongest thing that I have.

Tim Nealon 28:50

So um so there's a difference there. And actually, this this is gonna illustrate my ignorance on some of this stuff. So when you're saying clairvoyant, it's not that things are speaking to you, it's that you're actually seeing them, just just like visions popping into your head, and that's clairvoyance.

Kelsi Davies 29:04

Yes, yeah. I'll see things like I'll see glimpses of things in my immediate environment, but mainly I'll see things like a daydream, basically.

Tim Nealon 29:13

Yeah.

Kelsi Davies 29:14

Um, so if I see a glimpse of like someone walking by, I'll look and I'll like I'll see them in my environment. They caught my attention. And then I'll be like, okay, let me see what this was. And then it comes to me like a daydream. And I'm like, oh, this was this woman. Oh my God, she died. Okay, she's holding her heart. She has her hands crossed in front of her chest. She's showing me, okay, she died of she had heart problems. There's something wrong with one of her valves or, you know, something, just things like that. Um, and then she'll show me an image of her in the hospital with three people around her laying down. And I'll be like, okay, there were three people with her. And then I'll relay that and they'll be like, oh my God, yeah, there were three people around her. That's her one of her last memories. I held her hand, like just things, little tiny things like that that'll just resonate with people.

Tim Nealon 30:07

And they're like, So do you do you think it do you think it's that you're picking up on a certain type of energy, or do you think, and I'm sorry if this sounds stupid because I'm I think I know how to ask this, but I'm not sure. Like, is it that you're just picking up on something in the environment, or is it how or is it the spirit has kind of identified you and like like having a one-on-one like communication with you? Like I want you, Kelsey, to see these things, or is it just you're just absorbing energy in the environment?

Kelsi Davies 30:36

Like which which for yeah, for me, because I I don't practice it all the time. Um, I do like when I go to parent like locations and stuff, but it's not something I do. I don't do readings every day. I'm not constantly practicing it. If I did, I'm sure it would be like, okay, I know exactly what this is, what this is, this person. But for me, it's a little more sporadic. Sometimes I think I'm picking up on energy in the environment. And then like I'll know if it's someone directly because it's so clear to me and so like just I'm like, I know, I know.

Tim Nealon 31:13

Right.

Kelsi Davies 31:14

Um so, but I'm still trying to understand it myself. Uh, I'm like a I I'm like a baby psychic medium. I I'm still learning.

Tim Nealon 31:24

Yeah, you you have a lot of time. I notice most psychics and mediums, they're like old. Um, and you're I don't know how old you were, it's your business, not mine, but I imagine you have a lot of time to figure this all out before you're just like old lady psychics. Because they're all like old ladies, like there's nothing wrong with that.

Kelsi Davies 31:42

It's just a lot of them are older, which but I think it's cool because I'm like, where did when did you start? They were probably younger at one point and you know, came into it. How did they come into this?

Tim Nealon 31:56

I'm pretty sure they're younger. This gift, yeah. Um, yeah.

Intuition Skeptics And Being Believed

Tim Nealon 32:00

You know, the other thing, interesting thing, and and I think this is gonna be the last podcast I bring it up, but I am genuinely curious about this. But at some point the audience is gonna be like, Tim, quit asking the same damn question. So, one of the things I've noticed about people that are psychics, mediums, clairvoyants, most of them are women. Like almost every single person I interview about this subject, yeah, they're all women. Do you have any idea of why that might be?

Kelsi Davies 32:26

I believe women are more intuitive than most men. I just do. Um, which don't come after me, men. But I mean, I there's a lot to that that I'm like, I think because our brains also are wired so differently, we see the depths of things. Mother's intuition is such a strong real thing. Um, a women's intuition, like if they have a good intuition, you just know to listen to them because we just have it. And I don't know exactly why. I know there's a lot of different things with like the divine feminine and uh, you know, terms and stuff, but uh I don't know. Maybe it's the way we're wired, maybe it's a spiritual thing. Um, but men have a role, you know. There's women and men, we both have our roles. Maybe our role is more spiritual, and then men's are more grounded to this reality. You know what I mean?

Tim Nealon 33:26

I think maybe a little bit also is women tend to be a little bit more crazy than men. Yeah. Um I don't think so.

Kelsi Davies 33:36

Most of the men, men are can't handle their emotions a lot of some men, not all men, but a lot of them are the ones that go do chaos.

Tim Nealon 33:46

Who was I talking with this? You know, because I talked to Patty about this, and I'm sure you know Patty Nagri.

Kelsi Davies 33:50

Um I love Patty.

Tim Nealon 33:52

And you know, I was talking with her about it, and and her idea was kind of the same. Like the idea, and and by the way, I really don't think women are more crazy than men. That was just me being a no, I know, provoker in chief. Um, you know, no, I know. It's uh or or did I mean it? I don't know. I didn't mean it. Um But she she kind of had the same idea, you know, that men are I'm sorry, that women, just the idea of, you know, I I know that in some circles this is very controversial to say, but like women are or more like the caretakers, like they're more attuned to, you know, the environment and people's needs and and something along those lines where that just helps them be more receptive to to you know, that energy and those signals and stuff like that. That was that's kind of the idea everybody else has kind of arrived at too.

Kelsi Davies 34:38

We also, I mean, we also bring like men help bring life into this world, but we carry the life into this world and we're an open vessel for like a soul comes through us into a child and we birth it, like we bring it into this world. So there's also this open, this openness as well, um, with the divine. Like we're we're an in-between, like portal in a way. So, you know, if you think about that too, it's in it's really interesting.

Tim Nealon 35:12

I even thought about that before, but literally the spark of life happens inside a woman. I don't know. Maybe that's like I don't know. It's fun to think about. I don't really know where I'm going with that point, but yeah, it's interesting. It's fun to think about.

Kelsi Davies 35:26

And this is how babies are made, guys.

Tim Nealon 35:29

Right, exactly. Uh you need a man and a woman. Um so out out of, you know, you you talked a lot about Lola and everything like that, but have have you ever had uh a conversation or an interaction with one of these spirits that kind of meant more to you than than the other ones? Ones that really where you were kind of left like feeling like, like, holy crap, I can't believe that happened.

Kelsi Davies 35:55

Yeah, I mean, honestly, most of my like really in-depth ones have been with Lola. The other ones are more silly, like some of them give me nightmares or weird dreams. Um, with Lola, she like would show me memories of her life, memories of her family, her last moments before she died in her bed. Like things that are just really in depth. And you know, like I've like had tears brought to my eyes just from things that she's shown me. And I'm like, this is so beautiful. Like, I'm glad that I get to connect with your spirit, you know. Um, but yeah, the other dolls, uh they're they're questionable.

Tim Nealon 36:38

Uh they're hit or miss dolls.

Kelsi Davies 36:42

Yeah, very hit or miss. This one like is a clown doll. And oh my god, the nightmares I've had. Like I've had nightmares where I'm stuck in on a circus ride, and there was one with this like old Ringling Bros museum that I went into, and I mean, it was just right after I got this guy, right before I even opened the box. So I didn't even like see him or know anything, you know, it was just weird and interesting.

Tim Nealon 37:09

So you did not know it was a clown doll already, and you were having these circus type dreams before you knew it was a clown pipe.

Kelsi Davies 37:17

I knew it was a I knew it was a clown doll, but I didn't know like its story or anything like that. It would give people nightmares, and that you know, I didn't know like all the little facts about it, but and I hadn't like seen it in person, but it was literally like after we got the box, it just I didn't even open it yet. And I just started having these weird ass dreams. And then some of the other dolls too, I've had bizarre dreams after I bring them home.

Tim Nealon 37:45

I'm like, what is this? So, do you do you find that, you know, compared to other people around you, do you find that you dream more and that your dreams are more vivid?

Kelsi Davies 37:54

Yes, yes. Oh my god, yeah. Some of the dreams I'll wake up in a panic, like my heart beating out of my chest. Last night I went, it was so weird. I don't know why. I don't think I had anything to do with my dolls, but like I'll even go back to haunted locations or I'll go to haunted locations in my dream before I even go to them in real life. And I won't know the layout of any, like there's just little things that I won't know about the place until I have that dream, and then I'll like tell the owners and they're like, We actually don't have this release to the public, but you know, and then they'll tell me like certain things from my dream. I'm like, that's crazy.

Tim Nealon 38:34

So do you think it's like a form of like astral projection? Like where you're kind of like, you know how people can some people say they can do that. Do you think it's that? Like maybe yeah, like visiting these places before you go.

Kelsi Davies 38:46

It's like involuntary astral projection. Like that. I never asked, you know, sometimes I will. I'll be like, okay, I want to see something, you know, show me something. But sometimes I'm just thrown into it and I'm like, why am I here? What is this? I'll have sleep paralysis, I'll have just crazy. I mean, I would not explain half the half the things. It's right mind-blowing.

Tim Nealon 39:11

Yeah, I I've had them a couple of times. I I, you know, it seems like with you, you're somebody who's having these more on a consistent basis. But you know, a number of years ago, I I ran into a certain entity entity and I started having these bad, and they're always bad dreams, by the way. Like they're they were never good ones. But I I do remember waking up in like that panic sometimes, that panicked feeling. And because they were that's why I asked if they were more vivid than your other dreams. Because I just I can still remember those dreams, nightmares, whatever to this day. Like very vivid. Yeah. And uh it's not like a normal dream where you wake up and maybe you remember it when you wake up, but then 30 minutes later you're like, wait, what was that dream again? Like these ones stick with you.

Kelsi Davies 39:51

Uh these ones, yeah, they stick with you. You remember every single detail of it. You remember exactly how you felt. Like it's that's how I know, you know, like it's

Traveling For Paranormal Investigations

Kelsi Davies 40:03

wild.

Tim Nealon 40:03

So, so you're not just somebody that sits around collecting haunted dolls and making TikTok videos. You're actually, well, I mean, you you do those things, but you're going to these locations as well, these haunted locations. So you're based out of Los Angeles. So I'm assuming that most of your investigations are probably out there in the Southern California area, or do you travel and do no?

Kelsi Davies 40:26

Yeah, I'll travel all around the world. Uh, I still want to go to the UK. I've been to Asia, um, all around the US, just going to the most haunted places and meeting the most haunted dolls. And there's no place that I would not go to, honestly, unless it's unsafe physically, like with weird people there, you know.

Tim Nealon 40:47

Like you're probably not like going to Iran right now. Probably. It's probably not. Yeah. Probably not that one. Um, yeah. So what are some of the favorite places that you've been to?

Garnett House And Poltergeist Activity

Tim Nealon 41:00

Oh my god, that's a two-hour question.

Kelsi Davies 41:05

Oh god, there that's so hard. That's so hard. The Garnet House in Kansas is really fun.

Tim Nealon 41:12

Okay, so that's that's a location I've never heard of before. Uh the Garnet House in Kansas. So, what's the deal with uh the Garnet House in Kansas?

Kelsi Davies 41:23

There is, I mean, I've had dreams of things from that place. I've had uh insane poltergeist activity that is just mind-blowing.

Tim Nealon 41:34

Right.

Kelsi Davies 41:35

Like, oh my god. Yeah, there's so many things with that place.

Tim Nealon 41:41

Is it just the for anybody actually like me too, who who does not know what this is, is it literally just a house?

Kelsi Davies 41:48

Yes, it's a house. The locals know about it, the police know about it, the police have received calls from that house when nobody's home. The police have gone to that house because people have been cornered in the house thinking someone broke in and no one's there. Um, so we talked to like the local police when we went.

Tim Nealon 42:08

So do people live in this house right now?

Kelsi Davies 42:11

No, no one lives there. Uh it's it's owned by someone, but they're not there. They're only there like when people are coming to investigate the place and they'll rent it out to people to you know do investigations and stuff, but it's not a place where someone just lives. Um I mean, there's so many things with that house that is just mind-blowing. I have like full videos like plugging my YouTube, but we have it caught on camera, like objects falling, flying. I I started connecting with this woman that I believed was murdered, and then I caught on camera a book flying off of a bookshelf, and I went up to the book and it was called The Business of Murder, like the exact book that flew off the shelf. Just things that are just uh yeah, crazy.

Tim Nealon 43:01

Maybe she she was she was in the business of murder, maybe. It wasn't that she was in the murder. I mean as women killed a lot of people.

Kelsi Davies 43:10

Yeah, she uh she definitely died though. She was I think she was just trying to like validate like there's some you're on to something here, you know.

Tim Nealon 43:21

So you go to this house. Now, did you know that it was that that active before you went? Is that why you went there, or was it just like, hey, let's go uh check out this place in Kansas?

Kelsi Davies 43:30

Yeah, it was um word of mouth through like friends, and they were like, Oh, like let's go to this place, it's in Kansas, the haunted house. I didn't know anything before going, they didn't tell me. They like to test me too. Sometimes they'll just be like, let's just go here. And I'm like, okay, because I like testing like my what I pick up on and stuff. And so we went and it just oh my god. Yeah. I don't recommend going to that place until you look into it because. It's not for the faint of heart. I had a full panic attack. Uh, my boyfriend uh threw out his back because he got so scared of this doll. Like it rolled off of a chair, the rocking chair starts rocking by itself. He turned around, pulled his back out, right, and was in so much pain. He had to go sit in the car. So stretch before you go to that place.

Tim Nealon 44:23

Everything that you just described would make a normal person terrified, honestly, if they were in a room where that was happening. But even for a paranormal investigator to be able to be in a room while that is happening, and I'm kind of getting the impression you were were not like, okay, that's cool, but you weren't afraid of this stuff, is what I'm picking up on.

Kelsi Davies 44:44

I I think we create our own reality. And if you feed fear and you, you know, like you're gonna experience whatever you believe. And I think it's more exciting, but also surprising. I mean, I had a panic attack because it kept saying like it was gonna hurt my boyfriend. He was in the car like in so much pain, and I just started having a panic attack because I just never experienced that much energy at once and like things flying around. I was just not ready for it. But I would go in that house alone. Like I I'm not afraid, I don't let the fear just take over because then that's your reality, if that makes sense. Yeah.

Tim Nealon 45:24

Well, good on you because most people don't react that way. Um, I know not without repeated crazy, yeah, not without repeated exposure. Um, because I I I'm at that point now where like if that stuff started happening around me, I think I would be like, wow, this is really cool. I I I don't think I would be afraid anymore. But you know, the first thing I'm gonna do.

Kelsi Davies 45:44

Well, especially when you're you're going to look for proof and you get it, and you're like, Yeah, I got the proof, but holy crap.

Tim Nealon 45:52

Well, sometimes that's it literally that's what I do in my mind. I'd like if there were a moment where I was like, this does not feel comfortable, I would have to remind that's what I'd say to myself. I'm like, Tim, this is literally why you're here. Shut the fuck up and just like like just put your big boy pants on there and deal with it. But there are definitely moments where I was like, this does not feel right. So aside from that place, what what are what are some other places that have really left a mark on you that when you think back on, you're like, wow, that really had an impact on my journey as a paranormal investigator?

Kelsi Davies 46:25

Um, I want to say, let me think. Hmm. Oh my God. There's just I'm looking at my map because I have to.

Tim Nealon 46:34

I was gonna say there's a map behind me there.

Kelsi Davies 46:36

I'm like the map, I have like pins of where I've been. I'm like, which one? Oh my goodness. I mean, the Nevada State Prison is probably one of my favorites. I did that one by myself also one time, and that was so pretty crazy.

Tim Nealon 46:54

So when you say you did this by yourself, were you you were actually by yourself? And I'm not doubting you, I just want the audience to understand. Like there are people that are crazy enough out there, like you, like me. Actually, I know a bunch of other people too. We would actually go to these places by ourselves. But for most people, that's like, are you out of your mind? Like, I wouldn't even like so so when you're when you're going into these places, especially the ones that you're going into by yourself, like do you why are you doing it by yourself, first of all? Like, why is that important that you do it by yourself?

Kelsi Davies 47:28

Kind of like a challenge just seeing how long I can last without freaking out. Um, I think for me, like if I'm there by myself and I have a light on, I'm fine. Like, I'll I could do it. But if I'm in the dark, I have a fear of complete darkness because of the things I see. And like I I've had experiences where a face will show up in front of me and complete. I mean, I don't even know.

Tim Nealon 47:56

Like, yeah, yeah.

Kelsi Davies 47:59

Like uh just having uh like seeing things in darkness, and I don't know if it's like claustrophobia or what it is, but I start panicking if I'm in. So I've been lately doing an uh night vision challenge where I have a night vision camera and I'm walking around. The only light is from the little you know camera thing. Um, so that's been like I'm actually scared you can see it in my eyes. And uh yeah, that's crazy. But doing a whole prison alone with lights on, my camera, I'm fine.

Tim Nealon 48:35

Well, prison prisons are one of those haunted locations. They're not exactly known for being friendly to women, you know, the the servants there, there they tend to be in environments where women, you know, uh get harassed, get groped, like all kind of things that you'd expect from male prisoners, you know, all that kind of stuff. Um but but like okay, so I understand where you're coming from. You you're doing this because you like the challenge, you want to see how long you can last. But that that can't be the main reason you're doing this. Like, what is it that's driving you to find these haunted locations and say, I'm going to enter this by myself?

Ghost Hunting As A Mind Opener

Kelsi Davies 49:11

I mean, I don't go by myself a lot. I just did that person by myself.

Tim Nealon 49:15

Okay, so so so any of these locations, you know, it because at some point, you know, like there has to be something more than just I want to see what happens. Or like in and in your case, you've been very successful at this, but at some point it can't just be about I want to get the views and I want to get the subscribers to like like there's something in you that you're you're trying to figure out. That's all that's one of the things I'm always interested in parallel investigators, because everybody has their reason. Like, what is it that for me, yeah. What is it that you're trying to do? What hole are you trying to fill? What mystery are you trying to solve? Like whatever that is for you.

Kelsi Davies 49:52

For me, it's like personally, I think it's more for my own understanding of my gifts and the things I see and the things I feel, just like testing myself is a really big goal of mine, just seeing because I get so excited. I'm like, oh my God, like that's like just undeniable, you know, and it it brings me joy. And every investigation I'll have a goal. Like, I'll say the goal in the video. Our goal tonight is to find out exactly what's haunting this place, find out like I want to go into depth, not just okay, this place is haunted, but I want to go like we have a whole investigation board now where I will literally we'll print out photos, we'll make connections, we'll make psychic connections. Like I want people to understand how spirits communicate on a more in-depth level than anyone else can bring because of my my clairvoyance, you know. So that's something that I think is just really interesting and really fun to bring people along on that ride. And then also just to show people how in-depth it can be and to like, I don't know, just open people's minds because I like bringing skeptics on. I like bringing people you even think I'm full of shit. Like, like, okay, let's go on an investigation. I'm fine with that. Um, I think skepticism's healthy as long as you're open-minded to things. So I like just exploring that with people. And I think it's really it's cool because like usually psychics wouldn't want to bring someone who doesn't believe or thinks they're full of shit. And I know like half the people listening or half the people watching me, they're like, I don't know if I believe or she might be full of it. Yeah. But to have that validation from people who are like, okay, there's something, you know, there's something here that's interesting is really cool to me.

Tim Nealon 51:50

So is that what you're looking for? Is validation like for yourself?

Kelsi Davies 51:54

Like I used to. I think I used to a lot, but now it's more of for other people and it's for like I don't know. I'm just I just know I'm here to open people's minds, and that's all I ask of people. Um but so yeah.

Tim Nealon 52:14

So why does that and then this might sound like I'm being a dick when I ask this, but I promise you I'm not. Like, oh no, you're good, you know, you you just said like I I want to open people's minds and all this other stuff. Why do you care?

Kelsi Davies 52:30

I think because there's just so much to our universe and humanity itself, I believe, like we all need to rise as a collective consciousness and open up more to the unseen and open up more spiritually to start understanding like ourselves. And I think the paranormal will spark that in someone, like it's an interest thing, you know, and it's a creepy thing, but also it sparks that uh understanding that there is more than the eye can see. And then that sparks a journey within someone themselves to go on that journey of understanding things on a more in-depth level. And then it goes within them. Because I'm always like, your your reality starts with you, your experience starts with you, and everything, you know. I believe, you know, your experience, like if you want to experience darkness all the time or dark things, that's you have a choice to do that. But if you want to really understand something, go in with curiosity, don't go in with fear, right? Because a lot of the times they teach us it's demons, they're all demonic and blah blah blah. But I'm like, that's separating you from the reality of everything being a collective divine spiritual experience. Like that's separating you from that with fear. And I don't want, I don't want that to keep happening. Um, and I had like crazy spiritual experiences the past few years with plant medicine and things like that. And I just know I came, I literally came here to help open, just to open their minds, you know, like to help with the collective in some way. And a lot of people have come here. That's why I have a platform, that's why I'm here is to to help, which sounds crazy, but it's well, it it really doesn't.

Tim Nealon 54:31

You know, I I know that you know, we we kind of live in two different worlds, you know, like a like um I mean we're kinda in the same space, but you know, you're more on like the uh like I said, you know, the TikTok, the YouTube, all that stuff. Whereas, you know, Ghost City Tours, we're real, we're a business. Not implying you're not a I mean, you're kind of a business yourself. I mean, let's face it. But you know, for me, the the most important thing that we do, and and this is why I was curious. That's why I was like, why do you even care? Um because for us, what we try to do is use the ghosts and the paranormal as a way to opening people's eyes up, very much aligned with what you said. You know, for me as the owner of this company, like I said, we have 600,000, 700,000 people a year take these tours. That's a shit ton of people.

Kelsi Davies 55:13

That's amazing.

Tim Nealon 55:14

And, you know, for me, everybody's like, okay, well, well, that's success, right? Like, you know, you're you're the biggest in the world, all this other stuff. But what really matters to me is that when people leave these tours, that like we we opened up their mind to the idea of like there there's more out there than than you're aware of. And uh, you know, hopefully they'll go buy a book. Hopefully they'll they'll go home. And there's something that was set on a tour that that triggers something inside them to make them discover like that childlike curiosity about the world around them and want to explore more. For us, that's really what these tours are all about. I mean, plus I yeah, plus I love money. I mean, that's great too. But like, you know, like it, I mean, I'm not gonna deny that I love the business part of it too. But for for for like an old guy like me who's been doing this for a while, that's that's what makes me feel good anymore. You know, when you read reviews and people are like, hey, I I I took a ghost tour and I read about this story and I researched it, and now I'm doing this, and now I started a website, and now they have a podcast, you know, and now they're talking to like people just like this, all because they took a stupid little ghost tour in one of our cities. Um why do you think that that you're meant to do that though? The idea of like you said, I feel like I was put here to open people's eyes to this other experience that's all around us that every uh most people aren't aware of. Why do you feel that that's your responsibility?

Plant Medicine And Finding Purpose

Kelsi Davies 56:39

I had this is hard to explain, but I had I went to Costa Rica and I had a life-changing plant medicine experience where so you're talking about like ayahuasca?

Tim Nealon 56:51

I guess I asked that.

Kelsi Davies 56:52

Um yeah, uh it was like so. There's like DMT, which is in ayahuasca.

Tim Nealon 57:00

Okay.

Kelsi Davies 57:01

Um, so I had I've done that, which I've been open about. Um, and I you know, it's something that is if you're called to do it and ready, it's something that just changed my entire perspective on things. Like scientists call it the spirit molecule.

Tim Nealon 57:20

Right.

Kelsi Davies 57:20

And um, so I had just a I also had like um mushrooms, which I mean, I have a tattoo of mushrooms on me. I'm just very open because that just changed my entire life and perspective on things. And a lot of people don't understand it because people are like, oh my god, there are drugs and blah blah blah.

Tim Nealon 57:41

But it's like, no, there's I I I've said that I've said it on other podcasts. So I've done mushrooms twice in my life. Like I've I'm not a big drugie guy, like I've smoked pot every now and then or whatever, just like every person on the planet does, even though they don't want to admit it. Um but you know, I did try mushrooms twice. Actually, well, I won't tell the whole story because I don't want to get anybody in trouble. But for me, it was it was honestly one of the best experiences I've ever had in my life. Um, you know, it just was like the I I don't even know how to describe it, but since I did that, well, one, I'm in Louisiana, so I can't like legally do it, you know. So whatever cops are gonna come arrest me, I don't give a shit. Fuck you. I'll just say I made this whole story up and like whatever. But you know, everybody, every time this comes up, I always try to encourage people like if you have an opportunity to try that, you should. Like, actually, to me, even my own parents, like mom and dad. My mom and dad are like very straight-laced, you know, rule followers, you know, go to church, all that stuff. And I'm like, mom, you should try mushrooms. Uh, she's like, um, but but I I've never done anything beyond that. But the the the experience that you had in Costa Rica, you know, I just asked ayahuasca because as soon as you said like Central America and that, I'm like, oh, right, it's the first thing that comes to mind.

Kelsi Davies 58:54

Which I've heard great things about that too.

Tim Nealon 58:57

Um but it just but what I mean, I know I know you're never gonna be able to capture exactly what it did in words, but this transformation you're talking about, like like what did it feel like? Like, how did you even know that this was happening?

Kelsi Davies 59:12

Like there's truly no words to describe everything, but I I thought I was dead, um, and I was okay with it. And I don't even know how to go into an explanation of it. I I have a podcast episode where I explained it um from my old podcast that I did.

Tim Nealon 59:32

Right.

Kelsi Davies 59:33

But basically, I uh I achieved a state of enlightenment. I don't know how to explain it other than that. I was one with everything, I was everything. I what I mean, it was the most beautiful, terrifying, incredible, enlightening experience I've ever had my entire well, they they called that like the dissolving of your ego, like the idea that like yourself is gone, you know. I was gone. I thought I was dead. I was like, am I gonna go back to Earth soon? Like I thought I was, I really did, and I was okay with that. I was so like so okay with it, which is sounds morbid, but it's it really is a beautiful thing. A lot of people celebrate death in different cultures, and there's a reason to that. Um, of course, I want to live my life here and I have a mission, and you know, I want to be old in my bed when I pass. Like I'm don't worry, guys, I'm okay. Uh but I god, there's just no words to explain everything I experienced, but I remembered my life in ancient Egypt. I remembered all these lives that I've had. This is not my first rodeo on earth. I've come here many times and I volunteered to come back.

Tim Nealon 1:00:48

Right.

Kelsi Davies 1:00:48

And I start I start like trembling when I I talk about it because it truly changed my entire everything. Um, but I remembered, I was like, I volunteered to come here. I have a mission here, and a lot of people volunteered to come back here to help with the mass awakening of, and this is what a lot of people who have had the same experience say. Um and it sounds insane, but we're here to help open people's eyes. We're here to help with the awakening. So doing all the paranormal stuff is is one thing, but that's truly underneath it all. That's why I'm doing it. I mean, yeah, the God honest truth.

Tim Nealon 1:01:32

Um Well, I I think you know, on one hand, everything you're describing, like somebody could listen to that and sound and say that sounds absolutely insane. Yeah. Um yeah. On the other hand, what you're describing, so we all know the and a slight tangent here, but I'm I promise it's gonna circle back. Like we kind of see how the way the world's going right now. Like everything's becoming technology and AI and this and this and this. And I feel like as a human being, and I've actually felt this before, we're kind of being pulled away who we are from who we were actually meant to be. Like, I don't think human beings were meant to, you know, sit on screens all day and AI is taking over the world and like all these things. I I feel like somewhere in our soul, or whatever you want to call it, like there is like we know who we're supposed to be. And at some point, humans are gonna reach a point kind of going back to what you said, this idea of like like knowing like why you're here and and all these things. I think something's gonna break. And eventually people are gonna crave those experiences more and more, like that connection to the to the greater one, you know, like the I also, yeah.

Kelsi Davies 1:02:42

I also think too, because we're not meant to wake up and work all day until we die. Like we're not we're not meant to do that.

Tim Nealon 1:02:50

Are you sure? Like, because I feel like that's all I do for God's sakes.

Kelsi Davies 1:02:54

Like well, you get caught in this cycle of just waking up, going to work, going to a nine to five, paying your taxes, doing the like that's how I could get in. I could get into the freaking government, but they know they know how powerful our con human consciousness is. Fuck you, government. And they don't want um, like they don't want us to know, and they they do things to distract and control and divide us.

Tim Nealon 1:03:17

Well, they're they're they're you're absolutely right. I mean, you know, I I think that you know when when you go on those what is called plant-based journeys, um, you know, it kind of opens your mind. Like for me, what I experienced was this idea of like and this actually ties into ghosts and spirits and it it really just all ties together because when I did that, I was able to see everything. Like, like, and I know it sounds crazy, and if you've never done this before, maybe you don't know what I'm talking about, but like like you could just see how everything is just like you you describe it as like a oneness, like everything is the everything's the same, like we're all connected. And I remember that feeling, and I was just like, Oh my god, this is amazing. Like I I I mean it started off honestly, it started off with my Christmas tree dancing, and I was looking at my wife and I was like, Is the Christmas tree dancing? Um but then but then it turned into like this thing where like yeah, kind of like with you, it was just so hard to describe, but I I felt like like in that moment it was it was you start to realize what it actually means to be alive, and you start to realize that all this stuff we do is for nothing. Like you just said, like the idea of getting up and going to work every day. You know, I'm usually at my desk, no exaggeration, five minutes of waking up. And I'll and I'll be at that desk all fucking day until like dinner's ready or something, and it's miserable. Like it like there is no way that that is how we're supposed to live our lives as human beings, but somehow we've become that way, and now we have AI. And I really do think humanity is gonna reach that breaking point, you know, where it's just something in humanity just snaps because we're so far removed away from like that vision like that, like you had, and that vision like I had of us being connected. And yeah, like something's just gonna snap at some point, and we're gonna have to get back to where we're supposed to be.

Kelsi Davies 1:05:07

Right now, a lot of the dark things that were already here, as I two two two on my clock, um, all the dark things are being exposed. So there's a lot of darkness in the world right now, but it's all being exposed for a reason for us to see and to understand. And like people might think, oh my god, it's scary and fearful, but I'm like, no, this is a great thing because we are seeing it. This was just something that was already there. There's a lot of darkness in this world that people don't even know or realize. Um, and it's gonna be exposed, like things in Hollywood and thing, like there's so many things that are just going to come out because there needs to be a change. The system needs to crumble in order for us to to build a new, build a new I know we're we're we kind of

Angels Eyes And The Bigger Reality

Kelsi Davies 1:05:58

really got off.

Tim Nealon 1:05:58

I mean, not really off topic as the idea of you know ghosts and stuff.

Kelsi Davies 1:06:01

Sorry, I wanted to show you something real quick too.

Tim Nealon 1:06:04

Sure.

Kelsi Davies 1:06:06

Um this is something I saw during one of my my um journeys. Okay.

Tim Nealon 1:06:13

Right.

Kelsi Davies 1:06:15

Um so it's interesting because I used to draw eyes like if you see my I have eyes everywhere just random scattered eyes.

Tim Nealon 1:06:24

Right.

Kelsi Davies 1:06:24

So I used to draw eyes on all of my artwork when I was little just like scattered eyes all the time. And um when I was on my my thing I saw millions of angels that just made up the entire environment and it looked like this. And these are what angels looked like for me. And um I started sharing this with people and I'm not religious. Uh I you know I'm open to everything. I I believe there's truth to every every religion like whatever's true to you is true to you. You know what I mean? Yep. But I guess um this is how angels are depicted in in the Bible. Oh I didn't know which I didn't know and uh I saw these all over right and it it just fascinated me like it was just the most beautiful amazing thing and like I was in this tunnel of eyes like all these eyes and that's how I perceived God our source everything all that we are yeah um and so yeah that's uh that's why I have that's why I have eyes all over and on my logo and everything is eyes. So if anyone didn't know that.

Tim Nealon 1:07:40

Yeah eyes are all they're always watching you. I mean not not that I feel compelled necessarily to bring this back around to ghosts and stuff but you know I I also think that you know that that you know I I agree with what you said earlier this idea of like this the ghost thing like we're never gonna really gonna figure it out like we'll die and then we'll know how it all works. But until then we're all just guessing. But I really feel like you know when you approach this idea of paranormal investigating properly like you you almost get a glimpse into the the greater right like like this idea of like there's more to the world than us. Even if we can't see it it's there. You know and and I know there's always going to be skeptics you know ghosts can't exist or whatever but you know the experiences that you've had I I can speak the same thing. I know they're real. Like there is you will never convince me they're not real. So just in that in that self is telling you there's something else out there. Like there there's more to life than just this stupid podcast we're doing or you know not that it's stupid um rated number one or whatever you have to say we're not rated number one. Like and subscribe like and subscribe um you know like it the but the it there's just this is not it. Like this is not it. This is just a step among the stairs right like in oh yeah journey. And I think for me that's what really pulls me into the paranormal especially at this point. You know yeah it's cool when you get an EVP that answers a question and or or maybe it's somebody that you know like that that that that will always be exciting. But for me I I don't care about ghosts anymore the way that I did when I first started like I'm not doing it for like the thrill I'm doing it for like it's almost like this is my way of connecting to the to the greater to the a comprehensive yes yeah and it's a way for people to understand who haven't experienced what everything is for them to understand a small fragment of what's beneath it all.

Kelsi Davies 1:09:40

But it's a way you know it it sparks curiosity and it's like for me on my ghosts aren't what we think they are. I think there's so much more to it. I think they're fragments of consciousness I think you know I think there's so many underlying things um I really like like things with quantum physics and try just trying to understand things like that too. Yeah but it's just a way for us to perceive and understand them in this physical reality.

Tim Nealon 1:10:08

Yeah I have a whole theory on that but I'm not going to get into it because I do it every podcast. And like now we're getting the people now we're getting the point where people listen to multiple episodes and like I can't keep saying the same stuff every episode. But I think you're onto something I think you know you know there there's I I am not religious either. I think that you know a lot of people want to look at ghosts and spirits as uh like a religious artifact like something that happens because of religion. I think it just happens because we're in the universe and that's just how the universe works and we don't understand it. But that doesn't mean that Jesus has to be doing it. Um I I you know I know we usually keep these things about an hour. I always feel bad when I keep people way too longer because I could talk about this stuff forever.

Apps Merch Acting And Next Steps

Tim Nealon 1:10:52

I love I know this is why I'm here I like talking about whatever so well I mean you know uh but you've taken this even a step further like I know that you kind of like like I said this is almost like a business for you though isn't it like where it's like is is this how you make your money so to say like with the the social media and stuff and I know you got a couple other things too like I heard about this app that you have honestly I don't know what the app is.

Kelsi Davies 1:11:22

You might have to explain that one yes yeah so what's what's going on with that I mean for as far as business and stuff I we have like merchandise we have apps we have um I have sketchbooks for people to draw their visions or things that you know things like that. And then my YouTube I have a full paranormal in-depth investigations um on there which honest yeah it's it's a lot of work doing that it's a whole production it's like TV show quality and then I have um Kelsey Davies Haunt Escape and it's a really cool it's like an escape game but on an app and it's uh basically you're me and you have to help spirits to like find the spirits help them move on um get out of these like these tunnels in order to escape.

Tim Nealon 1:12:16

Right.

Kelsi Davies 1:12:17

And it's a really really awesome game developed by uh Aaron Hibbert with hippie games and it's it's free on the app store. We're working on level two still um but it's yeah it's a really really I love games if people didn't know that I love gaming and so um it's a really cool like fun little you mean like the Xbox like the Xbox and stuff like you do that. Oh yeah that's how old I am I just was just like do you do the Xbox like you do the thing yeah at PlayStation 5.

Tim Nealon 1:12:49

So I was never a PlayStation guy I was always Xbox so it's been so long so I what I'm I'm one of those douches now where like every time a new system comes out I'll buy it and I'll play it for three days and I just never play it again. But I that way I can save I have the new one. But I was always an Xbox guy but I haven't played a lot since like the original Halo was out. That's how long it's been since I was like a gamer. Wow. I just have too much to do now I wish I had more time to play video games.

Kelsi Davies 1:13:19

I have more time now because I I used to work from oh my God I would wake up work until like 3 a.m go to bed work like it was a problem uh and so like now I have more free time to to play games and I'm grateful. I'm so grateful for it.

Tim Nealon 1:13:39

I just totally spit on the table when I laughed um edit edit that yeah edit that out like I don't even know what that was part of my sub from earlier I'm just kidding. Um that was weird something has pulled on my jacket for real. That's why I look down like that I'm like what the hell is pulling on my jacket? How interesting it must be a hundred dollars that are over here. So so what comes next for you? Like you know you you you know uh you seem like a relatively young person who has like a a lot of time ahead of you um where does this journey take you and does this journey ever end? Like um where does it go next?

Kelsi Davies 1:14:18

Yeah yeah uh I'm I there's a lot in the works I'm not allowed to say what's in the works but it's definitely not there's something's happening which I'm really really beyond excited about um to go deeper into the paranormal journey. Uh but I also am an actress too so just going into I love acting uh with a passion it's a just something that I I know I'm meant to do as well. Um get into that Hollywood scene and but yeah any horror films and things like that I'm sure I'll get in get in there.

Tim Nealon 1:14:58

There's a couple things like yeah in the works but we've we've so we've talked about I mean I am not an actor at all I I could act about as well as I can sing which is which atrocious um so I can I can't I can't even imagine what it'd be like to try to enter that world. But we have been talking about doing more filmmaking um around here and I think one of them so Paul used to make horror movies right is that what you called them or were you calling them like uh and I know you can't see Paul but you can see him later on the podcast but yeah um he has nice hair you said horror right with an H?

Kelsi Davies 1:15:31

Yeah okay yeah just making sure yeah what the thought I misheard it I'm just checking no hoa horror movie um but no uh so you used to like did you make them I know you made at least one right yeah I've made seven of them seven feature films yeah why have I never heard of these horror movies Paul it's never come up we talk about Bigfoot and ghost dude oh that's true you need some help with your marketing I do but um so so what is it because of your your connection to the the paranormal and everything like that that kind of draws you into that genre or yeah I think so I've also had so many just experiences that are terrifying to a lot of people and so I think just channeling that into like my real experiences into acting right is I'm just so drawn to it rather than just like I like comedy but I'd rather be in a horror film screaming crying throwing up you know just like I want my leg blown off like in a horror movie or something.

Tim Nealon 1:16:38

So like I love just channeling I love channeling that and just get tapping into that for some reason I I don't know why but you know in that in that regard I actually think I might be good at acting like Paul if you ever need like a really angry man in your next film like I could probably do that by channeling like go full method Tim it'll be great. Like I'll be like well that's just me raging on set of like breaking stuff and I'm like it'll be like healing in a way um everybody'll be afraid I'm like that's a good word actually healing like I think exploring my own trauma and stuff and like using it for something is healing to me. All right that sounds less crazy than me like yeah yeah I'm noticing all these little things that you've said throughout the interview and I'm not quite piecing them all together yet but I'm like getting a better pit I swear to god that just fucking happened again. Something is pulled on my jacket like my sleeve I'm not I I have never made anything like this up in a anyways. All right maybe it's you it's you're sending your Lola over here and I know they're going over there maybe it's this guy he likes to do it the clown it's totally the fucking clown how did I know yeah he's a little mischievous little thing so so um you know are you planning on going to more haunted locations? I I know you said you can't talk about like the big thing um but like you know personally like are you are you still gonna be going out there finding new locations are you still going to be um doing your drawings and everything but what like what what's next that you can talk about yeah yeah I mean I'll be definitely doing a lot more paranormal stuff there's things with that so a lot more paranormal investigations um going in depth and uh drawing and you know doing all the things plus acting plus I God I'm trying to think we have new candles coming too so also selling uh really nice soy wax based candles which goes with the spooky vibe and are they black um the out of it yeah it'll be black and purple like my my colors I don't know a whole lot about the the candle world but I do know like in the paranormal world everybody's like get get the black candles and I was like why do you need black candles?

Kelsi Davies 1:19:06

And like I I think those are used for like protection and um like ridding of negative energy I I believe a lot of black candles.

Tim Nealon 1:19:15

Do you believe a candle could do that?

Kelsi Davies 1:19:17

Do you really think that like if I light a certain color candle it'll keep me safe from ghosts we create our reality and we're very powerful beings and I think that if you believe that candle is doing that then it is yeah so hot take.

Tim Nealon 1:19:32

So I'm gonna try this so I'm gonna and I'll check in with you in a few weeks and let you know how this goes so my reality is that I'm gonna be able to eat as much ice cream as I want and I'm gonna get abs. We're gonna test this out yeah you got to take some action though no I'm not no no I'm just gonna use my reality and I am going to have the best abs by eating as much ice cream as I can I am going to create my maybe in your brain like you'll have abs you know in your brain but in other people's reality they'll be like oof I need to go do some sit-ups. Yeah you left that part out where other people can create their own reality as well shit this isn't gonna work um actually if you put on a lot of weight your abs will get bigger you just won't be able to see them. That's true. True it's all perception how do you perceive it well I this has been a very fun conversation actually it kind of took a couple turns I wasn't expecting like the whole you know even though you said you're not a religious person like a lot of what you're talking about borderlines on to me it seems like a spirituality you know and uh I wasn't expecting that out of you. I thought you were just some actress girl from Hollywood who liked ghosts and had an app but um it's actually much deeper than that. Um oh yeah so much deeper well you know one of the things that I always do with people you know especially people who kind of think like you do you know for people who are thinking about you know dipping their toes in this paranormal field or whatever or maybe somebody who a better question might actually be for you you described yourself as the child who had all these things happening to you that you really couldn't explain or anything

Advice Links And Closing

Tim Nealon 1:21:16

like that. You know, for people who might have had a similar childhood to you but they're still struggling trying to make sense of it all and how to to bring those pieces together what what advice might you you be able to give them?

Kelsi Davies 1:21:28

Yeah just know you're not alone um always ground yourself because you know some people just not every little tiny thing is paranormal in the way that you think it is right so always ground yourself um and yeah just know you're not alone and that there's communities and places to kind of navigate and help on your journey and I mean there's a lot of people like you don't have to go watch me online but I feel like I give good advice online on uh how to navigate things like that. Um but there's a lot of other people and channels that you can you know you have a whole online thing which is really awesome. And um if you really want to be open to like your family members or someone close to you maybe start like just being vocal about it.

Tim Nealon 1:22:18

Yeah. Well I I think part of it, you know uh especially over the last like 15, 20 years, as much as I kind of crap on these ghost hunting shows sometimes even though like the people behind them I I really like the people but I think that they've done some bad things as well the shows but I think one of the best things they've done is really given people the idea like I'm not alone. Like there are other people out there that have experienced these things similar to you and you know and it makes people feel a little bit more comfortable talking about it. Because I remember even when I first got into it 20 something years ago you know when you were like four um you know like nobody like it was like taboo to to you know talk about these things even even that short of time ago and I'm glad that we are in a world now where you know you can talk about these things a little bit more openly and you know understand that you know yeah you might be crazy but you know not for those things that happen you're not alone yeah at least you're not alone in it.

Kelsi Davies 1:23:14

Yeah absolutely all right well Kelsey if people wanted to to learn more about you and what you have going on where can they find more uh about you at that was the stupidest way I've ever framed that framed that conversation let me try this again say uh I know what you meant hey Kelsey uh drop some links what's your links um like what what do the kids say I don't even know I the kids have to say it a certain way what's your deets do they do that what's your specs like the details I don't even know like I just say like tag yourself drop your drop your stuff I don't know all right well um drop your stuff Kelsey yeah or a shout out shout yourself I don't know like maybe I'm old I know there's a word I know there's a word for it like uh shameless plug is that what they call it shameless plug yeah yeah shameless plug all right um okay there you go you sounded really cool then so proud of you for that um that's the first time I've sound cool all week then uh and it's Thursday um so anyways yeah that's uh where can people find out more about you Kelsey yeah you can find me on my YouTube which is just Kelsey Davies K-E-L-S-I-D-A-B-I-E-S and then on uh TikTok Instagram all the platforms it's just Kelsey Davies with two I's and two S's you really do have the I's everywhere I do dun dun dun dun dun dun all right Kelsey well it was really fun having you on and talking uh with you I could probably keep talking to you for another hour but I'm sure you have things to do.

Tim Nealon 1:24:46

Paul's like Tim you asked me to have those videos edited by the end of the day and you're just gonna keep rambling for another hour. Um yeah so we'll call it a day but hey maybe we'll come back and uh talk again in the future you know once you have uh some big news or you know maybe you've been to some more haunted locations you want to share some really cool stuff maybe we'll uh no I'm trying to think like what kids would say I don't know um meet up in the future and uh have another discussion about the paranormal yeah sounds awesome very profess prof professional of me though all right Kelsey well uh you go enjoy the rest of the day and thanks for joining us thank you so much yep thank you this episode was brought to you by Ghost City Tours your guide to the haunted side of history in over 25 cities nationwide from restless spirits to unsolved mysteries our tours bring the dead back to life book now for a haunted city near you at ghostcitytours.com be sure to subscribe to the Ghost City Podcast on YouTube, Spotify, Apple and wherever you get your podcast and remember stay tuned