We Revisit The Series That Raised Us

Some shows don’t just entertain us, they wire in our sense of humor, heroism, and what “good storytelling” feels like. We’re tracing the formative TV shows that built our brains, starting with the animated heavy hitters that never talked down to their audience.

We dig into the DC Animated Universe and why Batman: The Animated Series, Justice League, and Justice League Unlimited still set the bar for tone, music, and character. From there we jump to Teen Titans and the arcs that land because they actually take growth seriously. Then we pull back the curtain on the less-fun side of nostalgia: toy licensing and merchandising, how it can cancel great cartoons, and why the Optimus Prime era of Transformers still sparks real debate decades later.

The nostalgia tour keeps rolling through video store rentals, Nickelodeon classics, and the theme songs that refuse to leave your head, before Toonami opens the door to anime and later favorites like Evangelion. We also hit modern staples like Gravity Falls, Voltron: Legendary Defender, and Star Wars: The Clone Wars, plus a spicy Stranger Things season breakdown and a final detour into Power Rangers helmets and collector logic.

If you’ve ever go back and rewatch a “kids show,” this one is for you. Subscribe, share the episode with a friend who would argue with your top five, and leave a review. What are the five most formative TV shows of your life?

Transcript

Cold Open And Welcome Back

SPEAKER_01 0:01

And then I said that that's not a velociraptor. That's my wife.

SPEAKER_00 0:08

You didn't even invite me to the wedding.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

The wedding? I got married at the Las Vegas Taco Bell. You probably can do that. No, you can't. You can't do that. In case you ever wanted to know that.

SPEAKER_00 0:24

In case I ever wanted to get married at the Las Vegas Taco Bell. Never been to Las Vegas.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Yeah, I don't plan on it.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

Yeah, me either.

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Welcome back to episode six of Culture Credence. I'm Will.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

What's up, guys?

SPEAKER_01 0:44

I'm going to take a minimum of uh ten seconds between every voice line this episode too.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Oh, okay. Keep our engagement up. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

Keep them hanging on to every word.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

Speak very much.

SPEAKER_01 1:00

I'm actually gonna start speaking in tongues halfway through the podcast. I'm gonna start talking in Korean or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

Did you see that Babylon B headline and it was about how Pentecostal pastor wins every Scrabble game when he starts speaking in tongues? So it's like everything he comes up with is a word and no one can refute it. Man.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

That's pretty good. I should try that. I can't even use the names of cities without getting called out in Scrabble.

Board Games And Recording Tricks

SPEAKER_00 1:33

I have I don't honestly don't know if I've ever even played Scrabble. If I have, it's been like once.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

I only play real men's games, real thinking man's games like chess, like checkers, and Scrabble and dueling. With with uh flint logg pistols and spears.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:54

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:56

It's hard to play board games anymore because there aren't people to play board games with.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

True.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

We do.

SPEAKER_01 2:02

Hey, there's a board game app uh on Steam called uh I think it's like Tabletop Simulator, and it has like every game. You could try that sometime. I also like the golf with friends mini-game kind of stuff too. There's actually games in Discord. I don't know if you saw the start of an activity. Oh, I popped it up on the screen. But yeah, there's like a bunch of games that you can just play in Discord.

SPEAKER_00 2:27

All I'm seeing on your screen is a Google Drive. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:32

Well, you can't see the podcast recording, so L plus ratio. Actually, I should probably fix that. That way you can actually see what we're recording. I'll do that. There you go. How's that? Nice.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

Yeah, it was all a surprise to me when I was editing editing yesterday on our own.

SPEAKER_01 2:58

I try to swap back and forth between our perspectives to get it.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

Oh, you did an excellent job. Thank you. Did a very good job switching.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

Sometimes I would uh I would just forget to switch.

Legendary Pokemon Favorites Recap

SPEAKER_00 3:09

So but should we do a recap of what our top three legendary Pokemon were? If you want to, yeah. Not with one. Okay, yeah. Our our top three legendary and mythic Pokemon. Will you go first?

SPEAKER_01 3:30

Dude, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 3:32

Oh man, how are you gonna recap, bro?

SPEAKER_01 3:34

You don't I was hoping that I would ho I was hoping you'd stall long enough for me to think about it or like look it up. I have to look it up online. Could ask ChatGPT or whatever people do now. You remember my favorites one?

SPEAKER_00 3:48

You help me remember something. It's like no, I can't.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Um Genesect was my number three, and then Shaman Landform, and then Deoxys. Number one, dude. He's from space.

Gatorade Dreams And Pocari Sweat

SPEAKER_00 4:04

You and he's a little you and Deoxys, bro. Dude, you're bros. No, he's a freak. He's an alien. So my number three was Mew, OG, uh, number two was Zacian, and number one was Rico. So very different top three for sure from each other. But on this episode, we're not really talking Pokemon.

SPEAKER_01 4:32

We're talking about Gatorade again. Prepare for Gatorade.

SPEAKER_00 4:35

Yeah, yeah, we're trying to get us Gatorade sponsored it.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

Um you ever had a Picari sweat? What? It's a it's a Japanese hydration drink. No.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

Dude, if you're ever at like an Asian market, you gotta pick up a bottle of this stuff. Well, in my small Midwestern town, I'm not usually in an Asian market, but I'll hook you up. I'm not a world traveler like you.

SPEAKER_01 5:07

Dude, I went to I went to like I went to Boston one time. I don't fly to a different city every week. I might be going to Texas in April for a couple weekends. Dude. Yeah. That's unfortunate. Where are you at? Uh undisclosed location.

SPEAKER_00 5:24

It's a secret project. It's a secret. Yeah. That makes sense. Your work is pretty secretive.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

Yeah. Oh well. You'll never know.

SPEAKER_00 5:31

He was actually a defense contractor.

SPEAKER_01 5:33

I'm actually, yeah. My name is John Lockheed Martin. For legal reasons, this is a joke. Boeing. Not Boeing, Bo Wing. Yeah. It's a totally separate company. Did I tell you about the chainsaw man thing with the Lockheed Martin? The the war. There's this character and they're the war devil and on their face, on their cheek, the um this it looks I I I didn't catch it at first, but it's the Lockheed Martin logo, but it's missing one line on it. And I was like, that's a that's a really good reference. Like it was it was subtle enough to where I didn't catch it until someone mentioned it, but like if you knew it it's pretty obvious. I thought that was fun.

SPEAKER_00 6:28

Little jab at the military industrial complex.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

Well, there's also a scene in that manga where the uh the characters was like, oh, I don't love this. I love America, and they point their hand up, and then that they point their hand down, the Statue of Liberty's arm like swings down and shoots a laser.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

It was awesome. I mean, I wouldn't mind if the Statue of Liberty shot lasers. It it turned into a nasty credence.

SPEAKER_01 6:54

It would turn into like a monster.

Space Lasers And Railgun Logic

SPEAKER_00 6:57

It was kind of scary. Uh so supposedly, I didn't really look into this, but supposedly NASA did fire a space laser weapon recently. Laser. So uh part of me says that's awesome. Yeah. And part of me says, big problem.

SPEAKER_01 7:18

Uh what do you mean big problem? We have a laser.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Base-based weapons uh seem a little a little dangerous.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

I mean, we kind of already have those. You'll you'll see when you watch a Gundam that satellites can be used that way too. No, no, no more on that until until we get there.

SPEAKER_00 7:37

Yeah. Next we're gonna be shooting railguns.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Dude, if I'm I'm sorry, but if if the UNOC had like five more railguns, they could have beat the covenant.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Yeah, okay. That was such a strange.

SPEAKER_01 7:51

I remember when we dude, I hate it. I love Halo Reach, but come on. They're like, yeah, well, let's invest in these in these four-wheelers for ten-foot-tall people. What?

SPEAKER_00 8:04

Like, literally, if you just had like two rail guns.

SPEAKER_01 8:06

Yeah, they they hit one of the like capital class Covenant Corvettes and like one-shot it. Like, they easily could have, if they had those lined up around the planet, they could have easily done it. Or if their ships were more maneuverable, because the Pillar of Autumn, the Master Chief is on the beginning. I can't remember if it's equipped with one, but forward onto Dawn from Halo 4, 100% was equipped with one of these railguns. Like, these are like on ships. It's not like they couldn't use these things, it's that they weren't using them. Out of plot convenience. Yeah. Comment down below if you know why they didn't decide to build more than one rail gun.

SPEAKER_00 8:51

I'm sure there's some stated reason.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Um actually, um the the UNSC credit only has a purchasing power of five cents per kilowatt. They'd have to shut down everything to use the power.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

There's probably some economics involved. It's probably the power used in a railgun, to be honest. Yeah. And I mean, what what's powering a railgun? What what's being used to build a railgun?

SPEAKER_01 9:19

Dude, like, yeah, where are the factories for these pieces of equipment? We never see them, right? What is going on there? I know in that Avangelion show, they they had to shut down the power in all of Japan to shoot one laser out of this like sniper rifle for one of these things. So maybe it's just a power consumption issue. But they were like, dude, they were like happy draining.

SPEAKER_00 9:48

We had to drain all the power from a star to shoot this thing.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

It's like at that point, just get out of here. What are you doing?

Defining Formative TV Shows

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Why would you want to stay on Space Kansas? So what we are talking about today, since we're not talking Pokemon today, is TV shows that we would call formative. Some might say things that were impactful for us or some of our favorite shows, things like that. You got any of those you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_01 10:24

No movies, no snacks? Talk about a low budget flight. I'm out of here.

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Yeah, no movies today. Just TV shows.

SPEAKER_01 10:33

Well, uh, I probably have a few. But you get to go first this time since you uh I get to go first. Actually, I'll uh let's play a game with this. Okay. I haven't come up with the game yet. I'm just thinking of what Oh, on the spot. On the spot. Yeah, you put me on the spot here. You said I had to come up with a game. Yeah, it's called on the spot. It's a game where you have to um you have to roll um on the floor with a dice with dice with a die. And if you land on the die, then you you better get off of it. No, no, we're do we're we're done with that. I was just gonna see how long I could wait before anyone tossed. Just have nothing. Just haircut that no, no, no. Uh it it adds character. They're gonna be like, oh, is it broken? Fast forward. No, they just they just didn't say anything.

DC Animation And Batman Ideals

SPEAKER_00 11:34

So what would be one of my so we'll just say favorite slash formative TV shows? Uh I'm gonna start back at like a childhood show, if since since we'd said formative. Um, okay, so what did I watch the most as a kid? I watched Power Rangers and Pokemon and superhero shows the most out of everything. So, yeah, I mean, any of those. I'm gonna skip Pokemon because we talk about it so much. Uh as a kid, I remember Teen Titans being big for me, although that was kind of catching me at the tail end of childhood. Uh Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, which that kind of became big for me. I kind of rediscovered Justice League and Justice League Unlimited in college, and I would I would call that one for me. I mean, they're dealing with some pretty weighty topics, especially in Justice League Unlimited.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

Dude. Wasn't that the worthy the last episode and beyond was too?

SPEAKER_00 12:57

Okay, so yes.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

That was a really high episode.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

That was supposed to be the last episode of Justice League, not just Justice League Unlimited, but the entire DC animated universe. But then they made another season of Justice League Unlimited after that. Wow. So but and they're dealing with like government conspiracies and all kinds of stuff. It was it was awesome. So I would definitely say that, and in conjunction with that, Batman the Animated series to me is like everybody says, it's a masterpiece. I love it. It's huge for me, and I kind of feel like Kevin Conroy's depiction of Batman, which changes, it changes depending on what the series is, what time period it was, that those types of things. But I would say his depiction of Batman for me is has been and one of the most formative characters that I've watched in in anything. There was definitely a time period where I was like, dude, I want to be this version of Batman. And so definitely Batman the Animated Series, DC animated universe. Same with Teen Titans. I mean, there's a like I think the way Teen Titans handles a lot of the storylines is just really top tier. Like uh the season two with Tara and Slade. So good. And you know also I love the it's simple, but I love the never too late to change. And then she does change it.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

So but they turn her new actually no spoilers.

SPEAKER_00 14:57

Yeah, no spoilers.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Um I I also gotta say, Batman the animated series, Danny Elfman's score for that show is incredible. Incredible. He's uh also just most of the things that he did in the 90s scoring, like for uh what am I thinking? Um he all he did the Batman movie with Michael Keaton, uh that was 89. Um Nightmare Before Christmas. What else was it? He he did a lot of really good stuff. Oh yeah, he did the first Spider-Man movie, the um I guess that was 2002 though. But yeah, I I just I I think that really st it's it's so iconic to that that we're still using it today for Batman as like the main theme, you know? Yeah. It's very good. Yeah. So dude, and Batman Beyond was such a good like that that's one of my favorites. Um I I wasn't really into it at first. Uh I I always found that show kind of like I don't know if boring's the right word, but like it wasn't very action-packed. It's more of a noir. Um, and then later on I watched it again, and I'm like, dude, this is like this is awesome. Cause it it it's a bunch of callbacks to the original show. You see these characters who have um become old and kind of lost touch, and then you have this new generation with Terry McGuinness, and just I I don't know, like it's it's you know, Batman the animated series was kind of a I don't know if you'd call it a period piece, but it had like a mixture of old and newish kind of Yeah, they leaned really heavy into the kind of the film noir age. Yeah, and but there were like airships and stuff too.

SPEAKER_00 17:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

So it was like this this like very like future optimistic version of it, you know?

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Yeah, like the 90s and 40s or whatever, just meshed together.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

And then and then you see a future version of that. And of course it's very different than a lot of the futures that you see in other things, but it's very close to Blade Runner and stuff, and that's right up my alley. I l I like that kind of setting where it's future, but it also has kind of a twist where it's not exactly the same as everything else. I I feel like it was one of the first, like, really big I I don't know, like it dives into the cyberpunk kind of aesthetic um before a lot of shows did. I really like that. Uh Teen Titans also. That was one of my first like things I remember being super big in school where everyone was talking about it and everyone unanimously liked that show.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

So yeah, I mean all of those are just man.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

I recently heard that the reason it got cancelled was actually because of a toy licensing deal. Yeah, that's you heard about Teen Titans Go is the reason for it because they had to make a new show so the other licensor could get right.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

Toys sunk a lot of good cartoons and stuff back in the world.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

And we can all blame George Lucas.

SPEAKER_00 18:43

I mean, Transformers, and I I I'm not gonna I'm sorry if you haven't seen it at this point, spoiler alert, but like dude, what the heck? That's why they killed Optimus Prime in the original movie, and you just can hide and all these other just to sell new toys. And like they didn't care if the kids liked Optimus Prime or he was a good character or anything like that. It was literally just the whole point of the cartoon was to sell toys.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

Yeah, and the funny thing is, Transformers is comprised of three different toy brands that they just kind of took from Japan, like shoved together into one show. So you have like uh the big one's Takara Tommy. Um, but there were like other ones, and so you have this mixture of robots, and they're like, okay, well, we have all these robots, we need to make money off of some of these. And they've already built up I I guess Gin 1, so Gin 1 didn't last very long, even though it feels like it did. Like if you go back and watch it, it's a relatively short series, but like, you know, you're watching reruns of these and then you see your favorite characters just get murked out of nowhere. It's kind of uh that has to be really I wouldn't say stressful. Probably has to be like Dude, I don't I don't even know the word for it. Gut wrenchingly.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Yeah. Well, I mean, they recently facetiously apologized for the trauma they caused killing Optimus Prime.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

They also used like a mini-series of Transformer Studio Series uh figures that were like Transformers that had gotten killed.

SPEAKER_00 20:32

Well, and like what's so frustrating about that to me is I've listened to interviews with Peter Cullen and Frank Welker. And Peter Cullen, if you haven't heard it, listener, uh the Peter Cullen tells a story of when they were he and Frank Welker were good friends, and Frank Welker was voicing Megatron. Uh, they were reading the script for the movie, and Peter Cullen gets about 30 pages or whatever into the script and realizes they're killing his character off, they're killing Optimus Primo. And he said, you know, I thought the kids didn't like me because they didn't give them or tell them about all the fan mail they were getting. They were getting hordes of fan mail and nobody told them. So they didn't, this is the 80s, they didn't have any way to know whether kids really liked their character or not. And so Peter Cullen thought he was like a failure as Optimus Prime, and then come to find out that kids were so upset and so demanded Optimus Prime back that they bring him back, and he's been the leader and the most popular character throughout the franchise's history.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

And it's interesting because in Japan they really, really prefer um oh, what's his name? Ultra Ultra Magnus. Yeah, he's he's their Optimus Prime.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

And so it's like, you know, all they had to do was just tell him, but they just didn't care, you know. Yeah. But I wish we could have gotten more more times that Peter Cullen voiced it, because you kind of had him voice Optimus Prime in the 80s in Ironhide, and then kind of gone for a long time until the Michael Bay movies, and he voices Optimus Prime in several Michael Bay movies, does Transformers Prime. Uh, but then I mean, we've reached, you know, the tail end and now the end kind of his career. He's pretty well retired now. And so, like, I hate that we had, you know, 10, 20 years in there where we could have been having more Peter Cullen voicing Optimus Prime, and there just wasn't that much, yeah, that much Transformers media at the time.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

There was a lot of Transformers Media. Armada, Energon, the animated series. There were those were like some of my favorite pieces of Transformers Media.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

Yeah, but I don't feel like trans and I don't feel like until the Michael Bay movies was Transformers really super popular at the end of really at the forefront.

SPEAKER_01 23:13

Like dude, it was everywhere when I was younger around that time. I didn't know any kids who were into Transformers. That's interesting to me. Because before the Michael Bay movie, everyone I knew had Transformers and was like really into that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

Yeah, the only experience I had with Transformers really before the Michael Bay movies was them playing commercials on like Toonami and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

Yeah, like Energon and Armada had the like time slots around Teen Titans for me. So like I as a kid I was watching that all the time.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

But yeah, I I feel like uh Transformers Prime is another one, dude. I love that show. Yeah, that shows I don't love the I don't love the animation style, but I love the show.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

I only saw the first season because that was on that channel that has promated the hub. And it went I think it like went out, like it didn't last very long, and it had like some other game shows and stuff on it too, but that was like one of their biggest things was they're like, oh, we have Transformers Prime and like a My Little Pony show and stuff. And I never watched anything past season one because they just kept airing season one over and over again, then reruns of Gen 1 of Transformers and G.I. Joe. And dude, one one of my favorite movies to rent when I was younger was actually uh The Transformers of the movie. I think I rented that probably a dozen times. And this was yeah, this was well before the Michael Bay movie. I I actually didn't like the Michael Bay movie when I was younger.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

It's definitely different from the original. I didn't see the original series or the original movie until I was in like my probably like 30. 30 or 30 or something.

Video Store Rentals And Disney Films

SPEAKER_01 25:17

Yeah, everyone around me like at like daycare after school had seen the Transformers, the movie, and some of the original show, and was like super into like Armada and Energon. So that's it's interesting to see a different perspective on that, because like I I saw that as like a really big thriving point. Like the minicons were really popular and stuff. There were a lot of video games coming out. Um yeah, just really cool stuff. Also, I was I was kind of weird though, too. Like my favorite things to rent from Blockbuster were Speed Racer, the original series, and the Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon and Mario cartoon. So I was uh I was a little strange. I I feel like Speed Racer has to be one of my more formative shows growing up because I I'd watched the heck out of that show. I loved that show.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

See, and I didn't watch any of those as a kid. I I was like four years old asking to go get Speed Racer from Blockbuster. I watched um the 90s Marvel Comics Spider-Man cartoon.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Dude, I I love that show. I the are you talking about the original one or are you talking about Spider-Man and his uh friends?

SPEAKER_00 26:35

Uh I am talking about the one I'm talking about Shocker.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Uh I will chase you to the ends of the Fox one.

SPEAKER_00 26:45

Uh so that was one of my main shows for sure. Uh I watched when I was like renting stuff from the video store, I usually was renting either Pokemon or uh Spider-Man. Think of it.

SPEAKER_01 27:01

I was running Pokemon 2.

SPEAKER_00 27:03

I rented a lot um either Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles or the cartoon, not the movies. Or um I would rent like the knockoffs, Street Sharks, Extreme Dinosaurs. I rented all of us. I did not see that one. That show is crazy. But yeah, so stuff like that. A lot I was renting from the video store, and then like me and my sister would rent movies that we would watch like a hundred times and I'm sure drive our parents insane. Like uh me and my sister really liked this movie called Cats and Dogs. Dude, yeah, yeah. I know that. And they're like secret agents. Yep. Yeah, we thought that was hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

And the the villains like the white cat named Fluffy. Mr. Tinkle. Mr. Tinkle.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

Mr. Tinkle.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

That's what it was.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

I just thought about that movie again the other day, and I was like, dude.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

I watched that so much. Do you ever watch any of those like the Disney Channel original movies? Yes. Man, there's one called Xeon that I would watch a lot. I I was terrified when they would do like the Halloween thing and have the advertisements. They used to be really scary with the advertisements on Disney Channel for Halloween. And they do like a Halloween in the summer, and there was a Halloween town.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

I was oh yeah, I like that as a kid.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

I thought, okay, you know the movie theater from I think the first one. There's like an old movie theater and there's like a ghost in it or something in one scene. I thought that was the like abandoned theater downtown in our hometown.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Yeah. Because like I had never been there. Because I mean I was young. Yeah. Which they made like what, five of them?

SPEAKER_01 28:52

I should not have been watching.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

I what me and my sister really liked when we were little Halloween Disney movie was Underwraps, where it comes alive. But then, okay, so they made a new Underwraps like a few years ago. Why? And the old one has been like completely wiped from existence. Oh like it was like Which weird because they like have released the other Disney movies.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

You think they've lost the rights for it somehow?

SPEAKER_00 29:19

Yeah, I don't know. It's something weird like that because it is just like gone.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

I noticed that with like the House of Mouse show was not on Disney. Oh, yeah, I liked that show. I don't know if it's there now, but I I was looking for that and I couldn't find it anywhere. Weird stuff.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

I liked uh Jackie Chan Adventures. You gotta give Jackie Chan's office the talismans and all that.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

They they had those as a toy at Hardy's. You could get the talismans. And they actually worked.

SPEAKER_00 29:51

Yeah, you got the powers after you ate some Hardy.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Man, did you ever watch that American Dragon Jake Long? No, I never really watched that. I I watched it a little bit and it was I I don't know. Like it was it was one of those things that if it was on, I'd watch it. Most of the time, like what would be on was like that's o Raven and stuff. Lizzie McGuire, even Stevens. I'm like, I don't know if I want to watch any of these live action shows. Kind of boring. Fill of the future.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Uh man. I did watch um okay, so they made two of the like a continuation show that I did not watch, and that's what's more readily available now. But I watched Shaolin Showdown.

SPEAKER_01 30:39

I I I actually watched something about that the other day.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

I think they're putting it on Tubi.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

They changed the art style halfway through that show, I think, too.

SPEAKER_00 30:49

Well, they did like Shaolin Chronicles. That's what it was. Like right after that. And you can find that a lot easier. And I'm like, I don't want to watch that. I want to watch the original show.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

I um what else was there? I I remember anytime I'd have like a VHS uh at home, it would usually be like a Nickelodeon one, be like uh the orange ones. I'd have like uh rug rats or like uh wild thorn berries. Yeah. Um is Care Bear Care Bears is a movie, but I think we also had some of the TV shows. I I really like Care Bears when I was like one through four to six, you know?

SPEAKER_00 31:28

Like the old Care Bears. Um I don't remember I I remember watching that at like the nursery at church, but I don't remember it beyond it's a pretty pretty gnarly show.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

They uh you know if they all stand in a line, they can hit you with a rail gun gamma beam.

SPEAKER_00 31:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:49

Just if they if they decide that you're not being friendly enough.

SpongeBob Debates And Scooby-Doo Anthems

SPEAKER_00 31:54

Uh I definitely feel like if we're talking formative, SpongeBob and Fairly Odd Parents, I watched those all the time. Man, I'm a SpongeBob hater. I'm not as even my parents like Spongebob.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

I wasn't allowed to watch it.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

We were not allowed to watch it until my mom saw the episode where they call it karate instead of karate, and she thought it was so hilarious that she started letting us watch it after that.

SPEAKER_01 32:23

Awesome. But I hold resentment towards it. Why? I don't know. I think it's funny sometimes, but I think sometimes it's just like not funny.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

Well, really, I only like like the first three seasons of it, and then I pretty well hated everything after that.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

Yeah, the beginning of it's definitely much better. Um also Fairly Odd Parents was pretty good. I I watched Jimmy Neutron a lot. Um I had this PS2 game of the Attack of the Twonkies, Attack of the Twonkies episode. We watched it at the apartment. That was Yeah, I had the Game Boy game of that. Dude, the PS2 game was actually insane. Like it is a well-done game somehow. And it's based on an hour-long TV special for a random cartoon.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

They were doing specials for Jimmy Neutron and Fairly Odd Parents, like all the time. Yeah, and crossovers. Big hour-long f uh specials and yeah, crossover and stuff. It was wild. Back in the day, back before Avengers.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Back before Superhero Squad. Did you ever watch it? Have you seen the Superhero Squad show? No, I have not. Oh bad. The theme song is really good. If you haven't seen it, you should check that out. It was a horrible show.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

Niece and nephew really like the uh what's it called? Spidey and it's like little kid Spider-Man with Spider-Man Miles Morales and Gwen Stacy and Peter Parker. And they have they have a Fallout Boy theme song. What? And they love it. Yeah, they rock out to the theme song. Which, speaking of that, okay, how am I forgetting this? Scooby-Doo was enormous for me. And what's new Scooby-Doo with Simple Plan. I can't sing it. It's just rock. But you all know it. Don't don't act like you don't.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

Love that show. There's not very many episodes of that show either. It's very short. What's new Scooby-Doo?

SPEAKER_00 34:38

Yeah. But it had Well, they both are. The original Scooby-Doo Where Are You was really short.

SPEAKER_01 34:43

There's two Scooby-Doo original series. There's the Scooby-Doo Where Are You and was it? There's there's two of them.

SPEAKER_00 34:53

Well then they started making like all kinds of like spin off Scooby Doo. Scooby-Doo. They did the Scoob new Scooby-Doo movies and they did Scooby and Scrappy and all these kind of different things.

SPEAKER_01 35:06

I swear there was a second show that aired like for the same amount of time, like right after it. Yeah, they did. What the heck? Sorry, I'm I'm mildly dyslexic. Scooby-Doo Where Are You from 1969. And then the new Scooby-Doo movie. Yeah, that's not what I was thinking. Never mind. I I just completely f made this up. Did you ever watch um uh was it a pup named Scooby-Doo? Yeah, I watched that in a pretty good bit as a kid. I watched Looney Tunes a lot. I like baby looney tunes more than Looney Tunes when I was younger. Dude. I don't know why. I I bet it was a really annoying.

SPEAKER_00 35:55

Yeah, like as an adult now, I like I'm looking back at some of the stuff in Looney Tunes and I'm like, bro. Cliffnote for the Cyber Chase episode is going what am I trying to say?

SPEAKER_01 36:06

A Cliffnote. Um Scooby-Doo and the Cyber Chase. Yeah, that is like one of the best ones. Yeah, that was good. It has callbacks to the old, but it's like very modern, and it's also actually terrifying. Like they they made the digital age feel very scary.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

I watched Flintstones a pretty good bit as a kid.

Toonami Gateways And Anime Stigma

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Yeah. Um, a lot of stuff on WB on Saturday mornings. Oh yeah, that was a fan of Pokemon and they had so many good things. Um I was never into like Dichimon or anything like that, or Beyblade or Pokemon. That wasn't my thing. But Pokemon, come on, come on. I I also found myself so around the time I was watching cartoons like the I'll let's just like choosing my own cartoons would be like, you know, 2004 to maybe like 2010, 2009, somewhere around there. That's around the time that Cartoon Network started doing a lot more with the Toonami stuff. So I was introduced to a lot of like anime stuff that I probably wouldn't have been otherwise. I I just was like, yeah, this is just a cartoon, but weird, right? So like they had Naruto and stuff on there, and I I didn't particularly like it as much, but like I I just thought it was a normal cartoon. Um, and then later on, people are like, oh, it's anime, that's a the weird thing to watch. And now it's now it's not as bad, but yeah, there's definitely for a while people were like, this is a weird thing to watch. I'm very surprised how mainstream it's become.

SPEAKER_00 37:59

Yeah, me too. Uh like I didn't grow up with anime at all unless you want to count Pokemon. And so I didn't know like anything about it until I started getting older and saw it coming being advertised for like Toonami too.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

I'm very surprised how much I was spoon-fed of it through Toonami. Like, I watched most of the Ghibli or Ghibli Gibb, well, whatever you want to say. I watched those uh when I was younger, and my mom watched them with me. Like Kiki's delivery service, the one about the the witch. Like it's just a cute little movie.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

I've still haven't seen any of those.

SPEAKER_01 38:34

Dude, you gotta watch some of them. They're actually I just really haven't watched hardly anything anime. These Miyazaki considers them just movies at first. He doesn't really like when people call them anime. Um and I I feel like they're though like you could enjoy them separately from anime. They're he makes some really good stuff. Um we could do an episode sometime about that, like watch a couple Ghibli movies or something. Because there's some there's some really good ones. Uh Amon and Oke is awesome. Um Hal's Moving Castle. And a lot of these have like American actors who were like really wanting to be in it. Um like Hal's Moving Castle, uh Christian Bale plays Hal, or like who is it? I think Billy Crystal is in one of the movies, too. There's just like a lot of people in these movies. Uh, and then the newest one, um Robert Pattinson plays this bird. Yeah. Usually they're really good art-told stories with like a very prominent prominent message. Um but they're not as much TV shows. I know I'm getting off off track here.

SPEAKER_00 40:00

Yeah, I also like when I was really little, we watched a ton of Disney stuff. Like I will when I was little, dude, I was obsessed with Winnie the Pooh. Dude, yes. Many adventures of Winnie the Pooh.

SPEAKER_01 40:14

I loved Winnie the Pooh.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

The Mickey Mouse and Pluto cartoons and all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 40:20

My first book ever was a Winnie the Pooh book where he's like losing his balloon or something. And uh it was like he said something like Tut Tut sounds like rain. Yeah. Yeah. That was like my first book, and I have a Christmas ornament of him holding onto the balloon with a B on top of it.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

Yeah. Dude, that just original. Yeah, dude, we need the poo.

SPEAKER_01 40:46

Classic.

SPEAKER_00 40:47

Awesome.

SPEAKER_01 40:48

They took my eyes.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

It's such a good, such a good cartoon. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 40:57

Um I I really remember around uh what I would consider the new gen cartoons. Um I I was probably in like middle school. Um, and they started switching to like Adventure Time, Regular Show, Steven Universe, and that's when I was watching a lot of cartoons. Like I was really into it. I didn't watch regular show as much until later on. Um, but I feel like it's more entertaining watching it as an adult than it was as a kid. Um my sister and I really loved that Steven Universe show when it was coming out. It was it was one of the more unique things on, had a lot of colors and stuff, had it's like very, very well-made music every episode. But yeah, that was I don't really remember what was on Disney or anything around that time, but um that for sure was like one of the more formative shows for us. But man, I could quote like most episodes of regular show.

Gravity Falls, Voltron, And Growing Up

SPEAKER_00 42:04

Yeah, see, I think all of that was like after I think that's way after quit watching cartoons and stuff. Cause I really I actually quit watching cartoons before Teen Titans was even over, I think. I had to go back as I got older to finish Teen Titans. I'm I might have seen it, but there were definitely episodes that when I went back and watched it, I was like, I don't remember this, so I must have missed it or something. But so by you know, by 2005-2006, I was totally out of cartoons for a long time. And then went back, you know, as I was getting in college or whatever, and was like, dude, these are awesome. Like, why did I quit watching?

SPEAKER_01 42:49

Well, I I think they also they started pushing more cartoons that are adult-oriented, but also for kids later on in the 2010s, like uh Infinity Train and Gravity Falls and Voltron, of course, are you?

SPEAKER_00 43:08

Okay, so you introduced me when we were roommates to both Gravity Falls and Voltron. Yes, and they both became two of my favorite shows of all time, and I basically wanted you to sit there and just binge it like every day. And I think love those shows, they're so good.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

Yeah. Okay, Dreamworks nailed it. I I Avatar the Last Airbender, I was watching it as it came out when I was younger. Um, and I was like, oh, this is such a good show. And then they came out with The Voltron. Um, well, it was a movie at first. They put it in the theater, like the first few episodes, and it was the pacing was horrific. I don't know if you feel the same way. The first few episodes are way too fast. But man, the rest of the show, like, it just keeps getting better. Somehow they keep talking. And making it more awesome. I I'm really disappointed that it's not on streaming platforms or available to purchase anymore.

SPEAKER_00 44:08

No, I agree. I like the intro movie first few episodes thing, but the show gets way better a few episodes in.

SPEAKER_02 44:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:21

And it like, like you said, every season, it's just like top that, top that.

SPEAKER_01 44:27

And they do they manage to deliver every single time.

SPEAKER_00 44:31

Yeah, like most shows, like I talked about like SpongeBob. Okay, by season three, you're it's really declining, in my opinion. And I think a lot of people would agree with that. But Voltron, dude, oh, season three is better than season two. Just generally speaking. Season four, oh, it's even better. Season five, it's even so they crushed it. There were a few things there towards the end that we didn't really like. But overall, the show was so it's one of my favorite shows of all time, for sure. I've watched it like three or four times just since you introduced it to me.

SPEAKER_01 45:13

Yeah, and uh around the time I was watching it, that was probably mid to late high school. I started actually watching anime shows. So I I ended up watching like Alonarto, and then I started watching that My Hero Academia show when it came out. And I I was mostly watching like kind of just super hype kind of stuff until college. And then I got into like a really like I don't know, not not snobby, but I was like really into like film and movies and stuff, and I was like, oh, I have to watch them like 26 episode long, very serious talking about the condition of life and whatever. So I was watching like a lot of the shows that I I still like today are probably some of the stuff I watched around college, like Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, Gunda Mate them S Team, a lot of that kind of stuff. A lot of 90s anime. I I really like the uh like Black Lagoon. I like I like stuff that came out between like like 94 and 2007, kind of in that range. There's a lot of like 26 episode long shows, so it's not like a huge commitment, but it's also it doesn't overstay its welcome, you know. And most of them are directed like they were a movie.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

So I I really like Yeah. And that's the thing to me, like and I've probably talked about this on the show before, but like when I was hitting, you know, 10 to 12 in that range, I was like, oh, you have to stop watching cartoons now because that's childish or that's weird or whatever. And so I pretty well as far as just watching things, I pretty well just watched sports, and I did watch uh NCIS. I was really big into NCIS.

SPEAKER_01 47:20

We always used to watch stuff like that, like it would just be on the TV and house, like NCIS, MAF, How I Met Your Mother, stuff like Scrubs, um, Psyche, things like that. Psyche is so funny.

SPEAKER_00 47:34

Okay, that's another one. It's so funny. Okay, psych. I I had never seen Psyche until we were roommates. I was surprised. When we we were all gonna watch it together, and I was just home way more than you guys were, so I had way more time to watch it. I devoured Psyche. It is one of my favorite shows to ever exist.

SPEAKER_01 47:56

So good. I'm pretty excited. Um oh never mind. That's Scrubs. Oh, I thought Psych was coming back. Scrubs is coming back. Um, watched Scrubs. It's it's okay. That's where the default dance for Fortnite comes from. If you oh really, yeah. I didn't know that. We'll review the footage later.

SPEAKER_00 48:17

Because I'm definitely sound effect. Psyche again, but I don't know when. I'm trying to wait till I know it will be really good to me again instead of.

SPEAKER_01 48:28

Haven't they done movies?

SPEAKER_00 48:30

Yeah, they've done a few movies.

SPEAKER_01 48:31

Yeah, I I've I think I've seen some of those.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

Um yeah, they are to me, they're not as good, but they are still pretty good, especially the first one or two of them.

SPEAKER_01 48:42

I'll show I'll show you the original default dance. Try to mute it in time. I bet it shows an ad first. I'll have to flip. Oh no, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 48:52

Okay, we're good.

SPEAKER_01 48:59

Yeah, they basically just rotoscoped it. Like he's he's doing that's the exact dance. Yeah. Actually, here's a side by side. Well, maybe we'll get to see the side-by-side later. I know. I was just gonna play them both separate. Oh, there he goes. Yeah, they literally just rotoscoped it. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 49:27

That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

But yeah, that's uh oh, there's our write-ups.

SPEAKER_00 49:34

You can see our drive.

SPEAKER_01 49:35

Yeah.

Watching What You Like As Adults

SPEAKER_00 49:35

Oh, but what I was gonna say, and I got sidetracked, was like, and then as an adult, I came back and watched stuff that I liked when I was younger, or watched stuff like with you, like with Gravity Falls and Voltron and stuff, and it's like you don't have to watch a certain thing as an adult or a teenager. You don't have to be like changing a lot lately.

SPEAKER_01 50:00

Like it used to be frowned upon, but now it's it's it's like welcomed.

SPEAKER_00 50:05

Like I still watch a ridiculous amount of sports because I love sports, right? But I don't feel like that's all I can watch, or I'm a weirdo, you know. Like, I mean, it just I don't know. If you like a cartoon, watch it.

SPEAKER_01 50:21

Like I feel like I I I have I'm I'm obligated to say that things like The Office and Parks and Rec were also like very, very good.

SPEAKER_00 50:31

Yeah. Um when it was coming on. Like we watched The Office. I went back and watched Parks and Rick.

SPEAKER_01 50:43

I think Parks and Rec is a better show overall.

SPEAKER_00 50:46

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 50:47

Generally speaking, I like better good, but it doesn't stay good. I think I think Parks and Reck gets stronger as it goes.

SPEAKER_00 50:57

I think Parks and Rick is funnier. Yeah. Like like the office has moments in it that are probably better as a show than what Parks and Rick is. But Parks and Rick is just like every episode something hilarious happens.

SPEAKER_01 51:14

Yeah, and it can be a little annoying and too upbeat sometimes, but it's not as annoying as like what was that show with Andy Sandberg? Oh, I I can't even watch that show.

SPEAKER_00 51:27

Yeah, my sister, like said, I hate that joke. I just don't find him funny in the least. Sorry, Andy. But um The Office to me, there's just a little bit too much. I'm not huge into the awkward humor where like awkward situations are supposed to be funny and people being in awkward and saying awkward things are funny. I I don't feel that way. And so like if stuff is super awkward all the time, it's just kind of annoying to me. And so there were times in the office where I was like, okay, this isn't really funny to me, but there were definitely scenes.

SPEAKER_01 52:12

It it kind of when it becomes your only thing, it it's kind of I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 52:18

I love Jim and Dwight. Um the wigged. I thought their whole the pranks and all that was really funny. I saw the other day they referenced again the Asian Jim prank.

SPEAKER_01 52:33

Oh, yeah, I saw that. He said me uh whenever. What was it?

SPEAKER_00 52:39

So funny.

SPEAKER_01 52:39

What was it that he said and he was like uh pictures of me when I was younger and it was it was him. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:47

Do you want to movie?

SPEAKER_01 52:50

Are you talking about Threat Level Midnight?

SPEAKER_00 52:53

Uh Ryan Reynolds and John Krasinski did Asian.

SPEAKER_01 52:57

Oh, I thought you were I thought you were talking about Threat Level Midnight.

SPEAKER_00 53:00

I was like No, and on the on the press tour, they did a prank where John Krasinski was uh is his first name Randall, Randall Park? I don't know. Asian gym. And I thought that was really funny, but who, by the way, uh a show that I watched for a while that he was on, fresh off the boat, the first couple seasons of that I thought were hilarious. I love him and the Marvel cinematic universe. The guy's hilarious. He is so I want him to be in more stuff. Like he's so funny. But man. But yeah, yeah, we we couldn't do this show without mentioning the office in part.

Stranger Things Peaks And Drop-Offs

SPEAKER_01 53:43

There's also I I feel like Netflix has it's I I I don't think it's fallen off necessarily, but for a while they had some really good shows. Um Stranger Things, of course. Oh yeah, dude, how did we not mention Stranger Things? I I gotta say, Stranger Things, season one and two were probably some of the best things that they have put out ever. Three's okay. I didn't watch four or five.

SPEAKER_00 54:12

Um so we both kind of agree on this. You and me have talked about it off the show before. Like season one of Stranger Things, and really even season two to me, which for some reason people don't like season two, and I've seen season two is a perfect sequel to that show. I've seen the cast talk about this, and they all love season two and don't understand why people don't like season two. I feel the same way. So season one and season two are two of the best pieces of any show to ever exist. They are fantastic. Uh season three, I feel like it starts to dip a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 54:51

Instead of things are happening because of something else, they're just happening because they're happening, and then we're moving locations, and then things are moving because they're happening.

Netflix Deep Cuts And CW Heroes

SPEAKER_00 55:00

I think I think it starts to dip in three, but to me, it drops off a cliff in four. And four and five people are obsessed with four. I know, I don't get it. There there are things that are good in four and five, and it's still it's stranger things and everything, but like it has in four and five, there are so many problems with it, and it has just turned into a completely different show, and there's way too many characters, and it just wasn't the same show anymore after that. And like I said, there were things that were good in it. I watched them, but by and large, I just got to be for Molly. Four and five just are not the same show, but the first three seasons, magnifique, love stranger things very much.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

I uh you probably didn't watch it. I I thought Squid Game was pretty good too. Um made me very uncomfortable, though. I I don't like the gruesomeness of some of the shows. Um, but they they were also they were knocking out of the park with like animated stuff for a while. Like there's this show from Hong Kong called Scissor 7, and it's about this like um he's like an assassin, like the world's greatest assassin, but he loses his memory and washes up on this island um of chickens, and this talking chicken with like a cigar and sunglasses uh trains him uh up because he wants him to be an assassin, like make money for him, and but he's he's like a barber at a local like hair salon, the guy that lost his memory, and so he he has like this telekinetic power to like control scissors and like throw them around and stuff. But there's like this evil island of like assassins that are trying to find him, and there's also like an evil island of scientists that are trying to find them too. That's it's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_00 56:53

Dude, that's a crazy plot. Um uh by the way, I forgot about this. Uh if we're talking about formative shows, yeah. I was really into the first two seasons of The Flash. Dude. And my god. I liked Arrow a pretty good bit the first couple seasons too. But I I quit watching The Flash after season three, and I quit watching Arrow after like season four.

SPEAKER_01 57:22

The Flash after season three got really depressing, I remember.

SPEAKER_00 57:26

Yeah, like it was not enjoyable. Being a CW show, like it was all like super soap operay and oh Smallville. I know you hate Smallville, but I love Smallville. So I watched it some as a kid, which now I'm kind of like I shouldn't have been watching that. But I want to watch also like my advantage. I went back and watched it. Yeah, I've seen I don't I haven't seen that one. I I but yeah, Smallville is kind of what made me go back to being like because I had kind of reached this point in my life where it was like I don't really like Superman anymore. He's he's just too powerful and everything. And then so I started watching Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, and Smallville really kind of got me back into liking Superman.

Clone Wars, Rebels, And Heavy Endings

SPEAKER_01 58:16

But man. I I also I've I've been saving this one. Um Star Wars The Clone Wars was probably the most formative show of like my younger years. Um it came out um I I mean I had seen all the Star Wars movies at this point, and I was really into it already, but then it started adding all this extra stuff, and I get an episode every week of it, and so I don't know, like it was for a long time it was just this consistent drip of Star Wars, and I was I I I really enjoyed that show. Um, and then of course Netflix got it, put a season up after Cartoon Network lost it, and then for a long time we didn't get anything, and then Disney Plus gave us a last season of it. And man, that was I I really loved that show. I didn't like the movie um when it came out. I don't like the Twilight Ship from it and the whole thing with Road of the Hut, but like the show itself and like how it kind of like dives into like the lives of the clones and stuff and some of the other Jedi that were really cool in the background that you don't get to see much in the movies. That was super interesting to me.

SPEAKER_00 59:33

So Clone Wars was one, another one of these that you guys told me about because I didn't watch it growing up. I guess I was probably playing.

SPEAKER_01 59:42

It came out in like 2008. I'm wanted to say 2009.

SPEAKER_00 59:47

So I didn't watch it till like my mid to late twenties, and I agree. I don't really love the intro movie in the first couple episodes.

SPEAKER_01 59:57

No, the first two seasons I think are kind of like until the Mandalore arc way better, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:04

And the show is awesome, and it deals with some such like heavy stuff with the clones and some of the stuff with the Jedi and everything. Love it. And I so yeah, when they came out with the last season, which some of that I think was a little bit more than a lot of things. I think the first half was pretty disappointing, and the like I didn't need all that's been or I didn't need all that with Ahsoka and the the whatever they call junker people or whatever, but anyway, but like the emotions in that show, some of the sad endings, and then like if you connect that with rebels, some of that going on in there, which is another one I didn't watch until after Clone Wars, but like dude, so heavy.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:54

Like, how can you not there's some things where they leave off on like a heavy note, and then you just never see these characters again.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:03

Like, I yeah, there's some serious stuff going on in that show, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

I could not watch for it, took me like several years, several years to watch Rebels after it was over. People were like, Oh, watch the show. I'm like, no, I didn't like the first two seasons really, but the end of it, I was like, Yeah, this is really good. I think the art style just made it very visually unappealing. I agree. Kind of pushed me away from it, and it I don't know, like I think the energy of it was not in the best interest of the entire show.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:38

Yeah, I'm like you. There was a lot, especially early on in that show that I didn't like, and it was kind of a chore for me to get into Rebels.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:46

But then at first I was like, this just isn't for me. But then I realized, no, it is for me, it's just not at first, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:57

And like it's it's another one kind of like Clone Wars, but where at the end, yeah, it really opens up into something a lot better. And but yeah, I agree. Can't can't go the episode without talking about those two. I'm trying, I'm probably gonna go back and watch Clone Wars again soon, but if I can well, I don't have Disney Plus, but I'm gonna have to figure out I'm seriously considering because Oh man.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:26

Nathan, I got a show for you to watch. I don't know if you've seen it yet. It's on Disney Plus, so you probably haven't. The new Spider-Man cartoon. The art style looks abysmal at first, but it was so good.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:40

So I'm a little confused on the new Spider-Man cartoon because I've heard stuff about it and I watched a newer Spider-Man cartoon on Disney Plus in like 2020, 2021. Yeah. But I don't I've I feel like I've been hearing they came out with another Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:05

It came out last summer, I think.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:08

Okay, yeah, I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:09

It's called uh I think it's called Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. Dude, it is so there's gonna be a second season. It it combines new stuff with the old comic look. And at first the visuals don't look very nice to the eye, but as you watch it more, it it actually kind of does look good when you see what they were actually going for, because it is kind of like old comic style. Um and it's like not only does it take the new and the old, but it comes up with brand new ideas too for these characters. Um kind of in a way that the Batman uh animated series did, which also one of my favorites of all time. Um that got me into watching Batman. I I remember they had like marathons with that on Cartoon Network, and then they'd show Batman 1989. But dude, this this show, you gotta watch it. I I started re-watching it last night. Um, and it you know, it starts out okay, but like it gets really good. I think it's only like 10 episodes or something, too. It's a it's a pretty quick watch. It was so good that I watched it in like one sitting.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:22

Yeah, if I ever get Disney Plus again, I might because with Avengers of Doomsday coming out, like I definitely want to see that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:34

Oh, is it gonna go there? Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:38

Well, I mean, what I meant, no, they're not gonna put it straight on there. What I mean is like I want to go see it in theaters and I've missed a bunch of stuff, so I feel like I need to go back and that makes me able to see stuff. Although I probably could figure it out pretty quickly.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:51

Probably haven't missed as much as you thought you did. Have you seen The Thunderbolts?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:56

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:56

Oh, yeah. No, you probably should see that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:59

That one was Which that one looked really good to me.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:03

That might be like one of the best Marvel movies that's come out. I I actually this probably isn't a good example because there haven't been very many good ones since in-game. Yeah. It's probably up there in like the top ten total.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:17

I also like I don't know when the new Spider-Man movie's coming out, but next summer. Definitely want to see that. So Or the Wait, when is it coming out? Let's find out. Which, by the way, here's my bone to pick with that. We were told we were getting ground level Spider-Man, it's about Spider-Man, it's not it's not all these other heroes.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:37

July 30th next year. What?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:40

Dude. I'm sorry, continue. Oh, the Punisher's in it, oh, this guy's in it, oh, that guy's in it. It's like, yeah, guys, just let Spider-Man have his own movie. Like, he doesn't need an older hero in every movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:56

I I am okay if it is street level Daredevil Punisher. Iron fist kind of stuff. I would like to see Daredevil. Or like Black Cat. Black Cat makes sense for that. But yeah, I I or Kingpin. These are all characters that make sense for street level Spider-Man for me. But yeah, when you start adding Hulk and stuff like even Doctor Strange, you know, like I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

Yeah, we we had Iron Man and Where's Big Wheel? Nick Fury and where's Big Wheel at?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:35

Oh yeah, dude. Dude, if Big Wheel shows up in a Spider-Man movie, I'm I'm out of here. But buying all the buying all the big wheel merch.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:48

So yeah, uh pretty excited for I love Spider-Man.

Top Five Shows And Ranger Helmets

SPEAKER_01 1:06:53

So well we're at about an hour and ten. I think uh I think we should wrap it up. Oh my gosh, it's snowing again. There you go. It's like a like a fog of snow and it's like drifting across the parking lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:10

It's weird. So recap, give your as we're closing this out. Oh man. Give what you would call your five most formative shows.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:20

Dude, five most formative of my life? Yeah. Dude, okay. Star Wars the Clone Wars, uh, Neon Genesis Evangelion. Um dude. You're this is messed up. This is messed up.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:37

I can't ever figure this out when I try to think about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:40

You can't be doing this to me. I I that was for sure, you know. Um let's see. I'll let you think about it and start talking while I'm doing this.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:51

Because I I gotta think. I would say for me, Pokemon would have to be. Oh, yeah, Pokemon.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:57

I'll put Pokemon up there.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:59

Um I would say Batman the Animated Series would have to be one. I'm gonna cheat and put Justice League and Justice League Unlimited as one series.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:09

Yeah, no, dude, totally do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:12

That's gonna be in there too. Um I'm gonna put Teen Titans in there.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:19

Uh, this was great for me, but I don't know if it's I'd say the Batman, probably. And maybe like or no. Nope. I'm taking that out of there. I'm putting regular show and then I'm putting a controversial pick that I'm gonna get crap for. I'm gonna pick Steven Universe.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:42

I've never seen it, so I can't say it's a bit. It's very cute. So if I was gonna pick my last of those five, what would what is the last one I would pick?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:54

You love Rick and Morty.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:56

I've never seen Rick and Morty.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:58

Uh it's snowing so hard that I'm watching the the cars in real time start to get covered in snow. Bro. What is happening?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:12

Uh I mean, if this was like as a kid, I would say Power Rangers, but I didn't like it's not like a dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:18

You just bought a Power Rangers helmet. That is formative guy. That I would count that as formative. You could you talk about Power Rangers frequently.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:28

If we're if we're talking formative, it's probably Power Rangers. Yeah. If we're talking favorite, it's probably Voltron, but yeah. Yeah, I I'm currently looking at two Power Rangers helmets on my shelf. We'll have to get those on the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:44

I'm I'm jealous.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:45

The yellow is so good. Yeah. Okay, so I bought the red Hasbro Lightning Collection one, and I am so incredibly pleased with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:57

Dude, that's why I'm saying the Hasbro, like I get the Hasbro Black Series Star Wars helmets. Perfect.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:03

Oh yeah. I mean, I couldn't be happier with it. But so off of that, they didn't make a Hasbro Lightning Collection helmet for all of the power. They only made them for and they made them for red, pink, blue, green, white, and white tiger. Uh, and they made Lord Z. Well I see a green and a white one too. Yeah, but they did not do a lightning collection of yellow and black. And so you like can't find yellow and black.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:38

Wait, how recently did they do the others? Because maybe they haven't come out yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:42

It's been several years. They don't even make them anymore.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:45

Well, they they might. Uh Star Wars helmets do have like a very long kind of hiatus in between. Like they haven't done a phase one clone trooper yet or Django Fat, like basic things, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:01

But what I did, because there isn't a yellow or black right now. Yeah. I went to a an Etsy shop, and I'm that they are currently out of them, so I'm not gonna drop a name and all that. But there are a very wide array of quality levels when you're talking something like that. I found one that looked like it was gonna be really good. I ordered it from the Setsi shop, got here a few weeks later. It is incredible.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:34

I'm absolutely Is it this one that is$80, perhaps?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:39

No, it was actually more than that.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:41

I was looking at one, I was like, this looks really good.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:45

Yeah, some of them are really good. But this one is like what was so amazing to me about this one is I'm assuming they 3D printed it, but there are no there's no lines, there's no I can't see that it was 3D printed at all. It's not matte, it's very glossy like a power inches helmet should be. Got a good visor. I mean, it's it looks like the company made it, and I am just so incredibly impressed with it.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:13

Have you seen the uh have you seen the one uh the ones Bandai makes? Uh I don't know if they're any good, but Bandai actually has all of them. They have they have blue, pink, red, green, yellow, and black. They don't have white. And they have like matching stands, so you can sit them next to each other.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:36

I really want a white tiger one, but most places that I find one is like hundreds of dollars. Wow. That's that's kind of messed up. Yeah, they're really expensive, which is why I thought about buying one for a very long time before I bought one because I was like, I can't bring myself to spend this much money. And I finally was just like, no. I want one.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:04

Which is which series was it? Dino Thunder that had the Red Ranger where the the visor is like squiggly and it looks like the like the jaws of the T-Rex.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:14

Squiggly.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:15

Not squiggly, like uh like has zigzags for the visor. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah, yeah. That's totally right. I I like that design. Because like the the normal one, it does have the teeth on the visor for the T-Rex on the side of the helmet, but like I think that one looks cooler.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:36

Super impressive Mighty Morphin are my favorite helmets, but I also like I'm gonna take it back.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:42

The Mighty Morphin one is better.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:45

I really like in space helmets too. Those I want pretty dope. SPD. SPD was also really cool. That was a much ratio like some of the Zio ones. Really cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:00

Dude, Bandai released a um Gundam Chars helmet, like the space one that he wears with his normal suit. But they want$600 for it for some reason. Whoa. Like, dude, what? Bro, no, dude. Like the Star Wars ones are like maximum, like$130, right? This thing, there's no way it's anywhere near that quality. Yeah, I'm not I'm not paying$600 for what. Oh gosh, no. Yeah. I I hope they um I hope they wake up from whatever nightmare they're in.

unknown 1:14:40

Man.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:40

Yeah, I wish I could just buy like tons of helmets. So anyway, I've got one floating shelf that has a red helmet and a yellow helmet, and then I have a comic on each side of the show. It's just the beginning.

Comic Shop Plans And Goodbye

SPEAKER_01 1:14:54

Yeah, next time I I I'm coming back Thursday, I think. Uh, you wanna go to the comic shop? Yeah, I was gonna go and I got some stuff to pick up, so if they actually have it. They told me they had like 14 comics for me. So we'll see. If they didn't sell them all again. I hope those probably did. Yeah. Well I think that does it for this episode. You gonna do our review next episode, finally? Uh we can try. We we have been saying that for weeks. But we we have two more ideas for episodes if that doesn't work, so and then after that.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:40

We'll have an episode. We just don't know what it will be. Alright, well thanks for listening. Yes, thank you. Farewell. No. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:59

All right.