Gundam I Review

War starts fast in the Universal Century, and Gundam I doesn’t let you look away for long. We finally sit down with the first Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 compilation film, starting at Side 7 and racing into the White Base escape, the RX-78-2 Gundam reveal, and a conflict that’s already eaten half the population. One of us watched a cleaner dub, the other suffered through a rougher one, so you’ll hear us compare how presentation changes the feel of the same story.

From there, we get honest about what lands and what doesn’t. The big themes are strong: war is brutal, civilians become collateral, and a kid like Amuro Ray gets pushed into decisions no teenager should have to make. But we also wrestle with the pacing and repetitive “battle of the week” rhythm, plus character beats that can feel brushed over. Along the way we shout out Fraw Bow for holding everyone together, break down Bright Noa’s trial-by-fire command style, and unpack why Char Aznable’s manipulation makes him instantly magnetic.

We also nerd out on classic mecha anime details: Zaku versus Gundam power scaling, the Gouf showing up like a problem the hero can’t brute-force, and the Universal Century idea that companies like Anaheim Electronics can profit while both sides bleed. Then we zoom out into animation era talk, music choices, and why later Gundam entries like Zeta Gundam tend to feel sharper and easier to watch.

If you’re a Gundam fan, a mecha anime newcomer, or just curious why Gundam 0079 still matters, come hang with us. Subscribe, share the show with a friend, and leave a review with your biggest Gundam hot take.

Transcript

Cold Open And Running Jokes

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome back.

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Welcome back. Welcome back. Hello, everybody. He's hello everybody. Yeah, that's that's my name.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

That's his new name he's taken up the mantle of.

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Pseudonym.

SPEAKER_01 0:13

Pseudo Udo.

SPEAKER_00 0:16

I hate that freak. I hate that Pokemon so much.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

And Bondo.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Yeah, I'm not a fan. Yeah. Worse Pokemon.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

Not at all. If I saw one, I'd dropkick it. Well, that would probably hurt. No hesitation, right? No, it's okay. I have steel toe boots.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Oh, that's true. Legs of steel. You do have steel boots.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Cured in the sun for a fortnight.

SPEAKER_00 0:37

Dude, if you cured your legs in the sun for a fortnight, you wouldn't have skin anymore.

SPEAKER_01 0:43

Well, they'd be cured, so.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

Dude, you you burn in the moonlight.

What Gundam I Covers

SPEAKER_01 0:48

I'd probably be glistening in the moonlight from radioactivity. Well, we finally got around to it. We're doing we're reviewing Gundam 1, the first movie that compiles the 0079 show.

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Um not to be confused with James Bond.

First Impressions And Pacing Problems

SPEAKER_01 1:07

Yeah, he's he's not in this one. He's in the next one. Don't get your hopes up right now, though. Um but yeah, the show is the original series. Um you watched it on Crunchyroll dubbed, and I rewatched it on YouTube in one of the worst dubs I've ever heard. Um so essentially I'll I'll go over some synopsis first. So like if you haven't watched this before and you don't want spoiled, please click away and watch it and then come back. Um it's episodes one through thirteen of the original series or the movie, and it compiles all that. So essentially, we start out on side seven, a space colony. Um Earth has gone to war with people who have gone off onto colonies to live. Uh they started uh Duchy of Xeon. Um this was formed after a disagreement with the Daikon family and the zombie family, and they have now decided they want to be the supreme ruling people of the universe for some reason, but they also just want their freedom from Earth, so they go to war with the Earth Federation the first eight months. They say 50% of the population of both sides was lost. And so on side seven, the Federation is secretly making a mobile suit. At this point, all the um zombie families' mobile suits are outranking anything that the Federation has. They're winning the war, but the Federation has a uh trick up their sleeve. They're building the RX-78 to Gundam. Um the main character's name is Amaru. His father created the Gundam and created White Base, which is the ship that all the refugees will be escaping Side 7 on when eventually Xeon invades and tries to steal or otherwise destroy the Ark 78. Um and on their journey, Amaru takes up the mantle of pilot for the Gundam. He goes with them to protect the white base as they try to get to Earth. They stop at Luna 2 on the way, they tell them, You gotta go to Earth, we can't help you here. Um and then once they're in Seattle, they get in another big fight. Um, we'll talk more about this later, but um the movie ends with them on their way to Europe. So, yeah. First impressions, thoughts? You haven't seen it, but I have. So curious what you think.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

Yeah, this was my first time watching. I had seen the first few minutes of the first episode one time, but other than that, uh, this was the first time I watched it. So my first impressions are it's kind of um a weird thing that I like my impression of it. It's like I don't I don't love it, but I definitely don't hate it. And so it's like I find myself just like kind of chilling with it on in like the background, which usually when I'm when I watch stuff, I either like don't care about it at all, or I'm like fully engrossed in it, and that's all I want to do is focus on what I'm watching. But with this, I'm like watching it and also kind of like doing other things or whatever. And so I I like it, I think it moves a little slow and um kind of drags some things out, and like pretty much every episode, especially there in the middle, feels like uh Amaro in charge is kind of playing space tag and Amaro just gutting these other Zaku pilots. But unceremonious. I mean Yeah, very unceremonious. Dude, if you're a Zaku pilot, you're getting your face melted and it's going to happen. But yeah, so overall, I would say it's it's a relatively positive, especially for it being. I generally don't love 70s, 80s cartoons animation.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

It's also very rough. As someone who likes the series, I was not a big fan of this when I watched it at first, and it it takes a lot to get into, and it's probably the weakest piece of media in the franchise, in my opinion, other than maybe some a couple other things. It's kind of a hot take, but the uh the pacing thing, the movie definitely fixes because it's like two hours for that entire grouping of episodes instead of 20, 25 minutes an episode for 13 episodes. But it's still I don't know. Like it's a rough like I I find myself, yeah. I I would have it.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

If we weren't reviewing it, I wouldn't have watched it. Right.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Yeah. I do not blame you for that.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

I will I mean there's definitely some things I like about it, but overall I would say not something I would I would typically watch.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

Right. It has the opposite um issue that Voltron has, where Voltron starts out way too fast.

SPEAKER_00 6:42

Yeah, they are they could have covered like that they could have done the 13 episodes in like four episodes, but I get they're trying to like develop some things and everything, but a lot of it really like drags and like like getting the um the refugees, that whole thing off the ship, and like I mean, that just goes on and on like every year.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

They use them as a plot device, yeah, most of the time. Like the only reason that they're there is to avoid fighting and to make the stakes higher. And it becomes a bit redundant, especially when they go to these drop-off points, and they're like, don't even ask us about the refugees, we do not want them.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Well, and yeah, I that's a good way to put it, a plot device. Like, I feel like some of the writing and stuff in it is pretty lazy. Yeah, and like not a lot happens in most of the episodes. And I mean, there's some character movement and growth development, stuff like that. But generally speaking, there's not even a whole lot of that. You're not really even getting to know the characters. Like, like when we were going down the character list before this, we're sitting there like, who even are half these people?

Amuro Frustrations And Frau’s Strength

SPEAKER_01 7:57

Like, this is something Zeta does a lot better. Like this show, kind of towards the end, you get a better character development thing going on. We're starting to see a turn in the characters around the time like Amaro meets his mom, and but he's just I don't think he's a very interesting character, to be honest. No. Um, he's full of himself. When he gets in any kind of danger, he just kind of freaks? Yeah, he freaks out and curls up in a ball, and I mean I can't say I wouldn't do the same, but like it's it's pretty redundant and it it gets kind of annoying um to deal with.

SPEAKER_00 8:42

I felt like the first episode and the last couple episodes were way better than the middle.

SPEAKER_01 8:48

I will crack it.

SPEAKER_00 8:49

And I totally agree with Omro. So they're obviously want you to like him and him be the protagonist and everything, but most of the sh the series movie, however you watch it, I'm really annoyed by Omro. Yeah and he, you know, is just so like whiny and like you said, arrogant and full of himself. And one of the interactions I really don't like, which seems to improve there at the very end, is him and Fraubo, like she is taking care of him, and she's a little bit nagggy and everything, but she's clearly like a really good friend to him and takes care of him and watches over him, and uh he wouldn't have even gotten evacuated if it hadn't been for her. And so she's really there for him throughout the whole thing, and yet a lot of times he's really cold to her, and like she just has her mother and grandfather die right in front of her as she's trying to help Omro. And instead of consoling her, he slaps her in the face. He slaps her in the face, which I get like get a grip, you gotta get out of here.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

But it was like left her to run away like by herself. It's like, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_00 10:03

Didn't you take care of her? And like, um, there's one time where she's trying to cheer him up and everything, and she's like, she's not going, oh, woe is me. My mom and grandfather got killed. Yeah, she's like serving everyone and helping everyone.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

She's helping the refugees to the ship, she's serving people food, she's helping with crying babies on the ship. Like it's it's constantly that she's helping people, and Amaro is like, Well, I'm the only one who read the manual and knows how to pilot this thing.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

So I guess he literally tells her you can't do it. And yeah, I was saying when I was watching it, I was like, Frau Bo should be the main character. I agree, she should be the protagonist because she's the nicest person. But yeah, so Amaro's super annoying to me. Yeah. But he's pretty bad. I I was telling you off the show, I wish I had kept a tally. Like one of the defining traits of this show to me is how many times an episode can they say Amaro? And it's usually Amaro, Amaro, like twice. And it's like everyone's obsessed with Amaro in the show, but yeah. So we're gonna see how many times we can say it on this podcast.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

Yeah, luckily it's again, Zeta, much better. The main character, Camille. Um someone someone like walks up to him and they're like, Camille, that's a girl's name. He starts like getting in a fist fight with them, so they don't usually say his name much. Um, but dude, Amro, so tired of this guy already. Like it's Yeah. He is very whiny. And like go ahead, sorry. No, I was I was just gonna say, like, I don't know if it stems from like, you know, his parents being away. You see that he's like ripped from his home on Earth where you know they're obviously they seem like they're pretty happy. He's quiet and content. And his dad brings him to space and kind of leaves him to himself while he's working on the the war machine for the Federation. So maybe that's part of it, but again, it's kind of brushed over, at least for now.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

Yes. That is what I would say. Like everything at this point in the show feels super just brushed over real quick.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:25

And you're not really learning, even though you've gone through 13 episodes, you're really not learning anything about anybody.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

Like, I wouldn't expect them to outright say things, but it's it's a little more subtle than subtle.

SPEAKER_00 12:39

Yeah. Well, and there's some situations where you're like, what is going on? Like, is Amuro ill? Is he is it some kind of thing with the Gundam connection? You know, he's just like laying in the bed and uh blanking out and all kinds of stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

When he was sitting down and his eyes were like, you could see the TV stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

And like, I'll say I agree with you. There is definitely an element of it, and this is part of the theme of the show, and we'll talk about that later, but is they're showing this is a kid plunged into a horrific war doing something he is not really qualified or old enough to be doing. But so obviously he is tired, he is a young kid, you know, he is acting out and being whiny and stuff, as any kid would be. But there's some situations where it just kind of like seems to go beyond like what is reasonable right here.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

It's usually when he's needed most, he becomes really like attention-seeking.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

Yes, what's in it for me? Well, I no, I'm not doing that. No, I'm not following orders. I don't care if everyone dies, I'm tired. Then, like the one episode where he said, Can you promise me I'll get to go to sleep after this? And I was like, Are you kidding me, dude? Like people's lives are at stake, and you're demanding a promise that you can take a nap. Like, just so Amaro is kind of a loser to me.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

But yeah, I I think he's second worst to me behind Kai. I don't like Kai either. Oh, dude, Kai is insufferable. Yeah, he actually has character development at some point, but right now, Kai is awful. He he's just very disrespectful to everyone. He's in the same boat as Amro, except he's like somehow even more pompous about it.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

His whole character exists to be pompous and sarcastic.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

And the meaning of others, like he's constantly like, oh, I'm better than you, and then he has no use. Like he Yes the first time he was piloting, um, was he in the gun tank or was he in the gun cannon? I forget. Wait, whichever one he was in, the first time he's in it, he's like faced with an enemy and he's like acting all macho before, and then he goes into battle and he freezes up and can't do anything. And it's one of the times when Amaro doesn't want to come out and help fight.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

So that was taking a nap.

SPEAKER_01 15:14

Yeah.

The Mom Reunion And Moral Whiplash

SPEAKER_00 15:16

I will say though, if if I had the mom that Amuro has, she gets introduced there at the end, dude. I understand why you would be a total loser because his mom is a straight up jerk.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Yeah, so let's let's go over that interaction. So he goes to see her because they land um on Earth eventually, and she's working at this refugee camp. He goes into his old home and it's overtaken by Federation soldiers who are drunk and being weird, and um basically he finally finds like um like one of the neighborhood moms that used to be there when he was growing up, and uh, she leads him into the direction where his mom is. Um he lands the core fighter there, and they're like, hey, you gotta get this out of the way, or the Xeon base that's like right beside us, they're gonna find us. So the Xeon find him, or they they're looking around because they saw that a a ship landed, and Omr's mom's like talking to him. He's like lying in bed trying to like hide because he's wearing Federation clothing, and then his his uh pager goes off, and they're like, hey, what's going on here? And he he just straight up like murders someone just unprompted, really. Um I don't know why he didn't change out of the Federation clothes when he got there or put his pager on the ship. I feel like that would have been probably I think he didn't have time.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

I think they were got there so fast that he had to just like hide real quick.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Gotcha. So he defends himself because they were around him probably going to maybe take him prisoner, but maybe they could have killed him, right? So he kills one of them, and his mom is like berating him about being a murderer, and then he is about to leave, um, and she continues to just be like, oh, I just if you're the son I have now, then I d I don't want you kind of thing. So he's pretty upset about this, because he didn't want to be in this war, but he's kind of like he has to pick a side now because he's on white base, and that's his current situation. Um and I feel like towards what is it, towards the end of the episode, um, she meets back up with him, and she's hoping that he'll stay there for some reason, but he decides to make the choice to go back to the white base and travel with them. And Bright Noah's like, um, yeah, he's doing a great job. We're really proud of him, and she's super upset about the whole situation.

SPEAKER_00 18:05

Yeah, I thought, okay, so first I feel like I have to address the fact that they show the flashback scene where she refuses to go with Omroe and his dad onto the white base. And like she just her whole reasoning is basically, I've always lived on Earth, I don't think I can live in space. And it's like, okay, so you're just gonna abandon your what looks to be a three to five-year-old child.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

Yeah, and we see what the side like side seven looks like Earth on the inside, like there is almost no difference.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

It's not like you're living in a tin can in space. And well, so she just well, I mean, like, it's not like crammed quarters in a like small ship before it gets attacked there. So she just any mother you would generally think would be like, it doesn't matter if she was living in a garbage truck, you know, she would go with her child, but she's just like, nah, I don't want to see ya. And so that's the first thing where it's like, okay, she's a terrible mom. But then yeah, he's in a situation where it's kind of it's them or it's Amaro. He has to make a decision. Is he going to let them either kill him or capture him, or is he gonna shoot him?

SPEAKER_01 19:27

And if they capture him, no one can pilot the Gundam, at least in his eyes.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

And they very well may, you know, capture the Gundam and use it for Xeon. And so it's just like he has to make a decision in war, and there's not really even a decision to be made. And so he does it, and she just flips on him and treats him like he's a homicidal maniac, and you know, this isn't the son I raised, you're so violent. Why are you so violent? And I'm ashamed of you, I'm ashamed to call you my son, and all this stuff. And it's like, girl, this is a war. He is a soldier, and he was going to be killed if he didn't do this. Maybe he wouldn't have become a soldier if you had gone to space with them. Exactly, exactly. And and then you could have had him evacuating earlier and all this stuff. But so, and then at the end, there's just kind of that weird thing where she's just like sobbing at everything, and it's like, what do you care? You obviously haven't cared about him the whole time. But and I kind of felt like that was a I don't know what's coming next, but it felt like a turning point because instead of like being a child, he's saying, I'm moving on, goodbye, mom. I'm going back and doing my duty as a soldier. And so I thought that was some character development. I also thought it was a pretty it was annoying, but it was a powerful scene when the drunken soldiers are in his house and are making fun of him about, you know, oh, do you miss your mommy and all this kind of stuff? And it's like, yeah, dude, what do you think? And so I thought that was a pretty good scene.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Yeah. Um so another pretty prominent character, Bright Noah, he's um he's brought onto the ship, and we see that the captain of the ship on white base gets injured pretty early on. Um and so he's unable to fulfill his duties, and so he essentially gives Bright authority over the ship, and he's super inexperienced. Has he I I don't think he's ever captained a ship before. He's not even a lieutenant yet until the end of what we've watched. Um so he's he's taking charge, but he's also just kinda not good at what he does. He's kind of condescending of the people around him, but he you know, he gets he gets enough done that they're surviving, and that's kinda what matters. And he also he he has a a knack for slapping people. I don't know why.

Bright Noah And Leadership Under Stress

SPEAKER_00 22:06

Yeah, that's just pretty much his defining characteristic. There is kind of just hauling off and slapping teenagers and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Yeah, he likes to do that.

SPEAKER_00 22:17

There's a lot of people getting slapped in the face in this this show.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

But I think overall he's a pretty good, like pretty good leader, and they should definitely be listening to him more instead of constantly arguing with him.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Yeah. At first he's very inexperienced, but as it goes, like he he takes charge and and does things pretty well. Um like he he's good at delegating. And at least, you know, at the beginning, he's very good at setting aside his differences with characters like Amro, who are being very unruly, and he's like, I'll still let you pilot this, because we need you, but you know, we need to make a compromise here. So I do like that about him. Um another character on the bridge of the ship, Marai. Um, she becomes more important later. She is supposedly from a famous family or something, and she she is a pilot. Um and I I have a feeling she's never piloted something like to the scale of that, but she's like pretty good at it. Like she was able to like land inside of a stadium in Seattle, like I don't know. I I feel like that's probably a pretty difficult thing. I'm not sure how that kind of ship works.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Not that it's a realistic thing to think of, but just thought that was that was an interesting Yeah, there's a lot of characters like having to step up and do things that they really don't weren't trained for, you know, but it's just the situation.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

Yep. Same thing with uh Hayatokai and Ryu. Um we we talked about Kai, he's kinda kinda not great. Ryu seemed like he was already fairly experienced and at least knew what was going on. He didn't know how to like man the guns in that first episode, but he seems to actually I I don't know if he has like military experience or something.

SPEAKER_00 24:21

I believe he was the one who said he was in like the pilot academy or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

That seems right. Yeah, he's he's kind of like the the more like built guy that's in that that group. And he I think he pilots the gun tank or gun cannon, one of the two. Sometimes he's in the core fighter. Um but yeah, these characters we don't we don't really see much of them yet, so we can we can talk about them more later. Umr's dad kinda we brushed on that a little bit. He was not present most of the time, and you saw like at the beginning, um whenever everyone's evacuating, he's like, dude, you gotta get to the white base. Like, why are you out here? And Amra doesn't listen to him. Eventually, the schematic falls in front of him after an explosion out of happenstance, and he's reading it. And while while Amr is like fighting, um, a hole gets torn inside seven, and we see Amro's dad fly out. So that was a little odd, but we we don't really see much of him.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

Can I pause on that? Yeah. So one of the things that seemed to be a recurring thing in the show, and something I definitely wanted to visit when we did this review, is that manual just magically explodes out of right in front of him in the transport thing. Everything else is blown up, the people are dead, everything's engulfed in flames, but the manual just flies out, lands directly open at his feet, completely unharmed. And then he just sits there amidst in the middle of the war reading a manual. And then this happens again later. He just sits there and is like reading something and just hanging out, and like and he could have shared this manual with anyone, like anyone can be cross-trained a piece of only me. And it's just like so strange to me that there's different scenes in the show where it's just like, let's have a reading break, and I'm just gonna read them. Oh, and there's like once where, oh, he's gonna burn up on re-entry, and he's just like, let me pull out the manual real quick. And it's so confused. Oh, look, I can put this film on and I my ship, my Gundam won't burn up. And it's like, would that even work once you were at that temperature? Do you think it would bring out it burn up?

SPEAKER_01 26:57

Wouldn't it like cook you like a hot pocket once the heat's already in there?

SPEAKER_00 27:02

I feel yeah, I feel like if you were going to use that, you would have had to have used it before you were engulfed in flames at thousands of degrees. 100%. But whatever, let's take a reading break. And the book is not burning up, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

But the magic. Yeah, so that was just something when I was watching it, I was just like laughing about how ridiculous it was.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

Yeah, that was uh that was one of the things I wanted to bring up too, because it's it's very noticeable. It it's it's not even like, oh yeah, he had it on his desk at home, or like he took it from his dad or something. No, it it just some random people in a car blew up and it landed out of a crate in front of him.

SPEAKER_00 27:45

Yeah, those people last like two seconds.

Char’s Manipulation And Garma’s Fall

SPEAKER_01 27:47

They're like, you gotta get back to safety protecting you, and then they just get murked immediately.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

It's definitely uh they they are trying to create a feeling of like destiny, yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

Well, that's the thing. This it at first this show is very grounded and very um realistic sci-fi, I guess you could say. But as we hear towards the end, as Matilda's talking about these new types, the show does take a turn, and the whole like franchise kind of turns towards maybe the idea of you know, some of these people are like Espers or have these like special abilities that help them pilot in space better than other people. So it's not completely unbelievable with it having this like weird mythos thing going on, but like it's still really funny if you're expecting nothing more than something super serious and grounded.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

Well, and it's a good and bad of you know they're showing you war. And so things like that would happen where you would say something to somebody and then they blow up right in front of you, you know. I mean, like that would happen.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

Yeah, they wouldn't make you feel uh immediately that people can just get obliterated.

SPEAKER_00 29:17

Yes. They are doing a really good job of making it feel like hey, this is a war. And like I think the clear theme, and I don't want to go out of order here, but like the clear theme of the the movie is saying war is awful, and they're doing a really good job at that and showing that everyone gets wrapped up in war, even the people who are just average everyday people, and so I think that's pretty well done.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

But even at the beginning, like you see Bright talking to Amara's dad on the ship, and he's like, Yeah, kids are guerrilla fighters in war. Like, uh is this true? And then his own son ends up being one of these. I think that's a good good callback and a bit of a bit of a bittersweet kind of irony, you know.

unknown 30:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

Like he made the weapon that turned him into a soldier.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

Yes. And, you know, one thing I find kind of interesting about this is you are kind of left with you're supposed to just assume that the Federation is good and Xeon is bad. And that that seems to be the case, judging by the morality of the the people. However, it never really clearly tells you, and and even Amro kind of is questioning this, you know, what exactly led to this? Who is good? Who is bad? And you know, what are the politics of this, not that you want them to really get into that? They will, they will. I figured this this seemed like it was going a little intergalactic politics type. But also, you know, so I'm I just want to go on record here. I'm a very big fan of black and white, good and bad, good characters, bad characters. I don't like all this. Oh, it needs to be more complicated and more gray than that. However, I do like in this, like, there's the scene where the two Sion uh scout patroller guys go and help that woman and her baby and give them supplies and stuff like that. And so it's like, well, not all of them are bad.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

Yeah, it's like in Star Wars, like these people are in the empire like still like supporting their families, but they were drafted to be stormtroopers against their will.

SPEAKER_00 31:54

And this is like, and don't want to make it too realistic, but like you you can take the Civil War even in America. Yeah. And the way we are taught that, and I don't want to get into it too much, is just like South, everyone's a horrible slave owner, North, everyone is a wonderful freedom fighter. And that isn't how it really was. I'm not I'm obviously not getting on here and like saying anything good about the Confederacy. I'm just saying that there were people who they didn't get involved in the war on the South because they were slave owners. They got in the war because they were more or less drafted or pushed into it. And there were a lot of people who didn't have anything to do with slavery, they were just representing their home, their state. And so, like, you had situations with a real civil war where it wasn't all good guys versus bad guys, and that's kind of the way that kind of makes it look, is maybe it's a little more complicated than just one good side and one bad side, but and like with that, I th I feel like this show has a really good parallelism with the American Revolution.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

Um, at least with some of the more granular details shown in the origin. We s before the shift to the zombie family, the Daikon family was had had these principles of like, hey, we should move out into space, have our freedom, shouldn't be controlled by the Federation on Earth. And so that's how this whole conflict kind of started before the zombie family had a hostile takeover. And I think that this kind of um I don't know, like having these historical parallels with it makes it more interesting. Um, because it's not it's not outright just like it, but you can tell that they are referencing some real events in that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 34:01

Yeah, there's definitely a backdrop of real war, real situations.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

A lot of American history-related stuff, too, I find interesting. I don't know. At least an observation of mine.

SPEAKER_00 34:16

It's definitely heavy for what seems like a kid's show. Yes. Like, you know, dealing with death and all kinds of stuff. No, I mean people are.

SPEAKER_01 34:27

You see Frau Beau's family die on screen in front of her.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

Yeah, in the first like the first and then it's like get up and quit being sad about your mom.

Old Anime Animation And Kid Tropes

SPEAKER_01 34:40

Yeah, and also the the individualism, even with some of these side characters, like at the beginning, the um the like the Xeon grunts that are supposed to be observing what's happening inside seven, and uh one of the two Slender decides he's gonna go off and do his own thing and go fight and try to get medal and recognition, but it it kind of leads to the whole conflict that we see in the series. Um, one guy like you you have these little moments where these unimportant characters have this like butterfly effect on the rest of the series, you know.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

And I mean that would yeah, it is realistic that that sort of thing does happen, some Yehoo, you know, does something stupid and then there's consequences for that.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

Interesting how I don't know how accepting Amro or not Amru, how how accepting Char is of those issues too. Like we see in that first episode, he's like, oh yeah, we'll we'll let them do that. It won't happen again. But then he sends people to their death sometimes, you know. A lot. A lot. You can you can already kind of see the ways he's manipulating people.

SPEAKER_00 35:57

Um yeah, and at the very beginning, they almost try to make it out like, oh, he really cares about his men or whatever, and then you find out really quickly, you're like, nah, dude, this guy is just everyone is cannon fodder to him. And just to clarify, he's the ace pilot for the Xeon.

SPEAKER_01 36:18

He's um, yes, he's not the highest in the ranks, but he's feared by many.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

And then he, I mean, you have the situation, you know, he really fakes being a friend.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

Yeah, it's super convincing, too. Like you I at least for me, I wouldn't have been able to tell that he had any ulterior motives against Garma.

SPEAKER_00 36:47

Yeah, he he's definitely controlled by that ambitions he has, his own motives, and you know, he does a really good job of hiding that. However, you know, like when he unplugs the comms thing, I would have been, which he was a little bit suspicious, but I would have been like, okay, yeah, like this guy does not is not my friend, but I don't think he learned that lesson quick enough.

SPEAKER_01 37:15

But yeah, and he he has too much of a villain laugh, you know. Yeah. They'll just start laughing, and it's like, maybe, maybe don't do that. It's a little suspicious. Yeah. Yeah. Hey Garma, blame this on the misfortune of your birth. It's a crazy line. We also see um a relationship with him and possibly um Sailor, one of the other members of the crew aboard the white base. There's some uh some illusion that maybe they're siblings. Um they don't really get into that much yet, but it's it's mentioned in passing, and it it definitely had a great effect on both characters. Um, or pr I should say profound effect.

SPEAKER_00 38:04

Yeah, that seems like something they're going to be revisiting later, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 38:11

So Garma, he was a good friend, but um gets absolutely murked.

SPEAKER_00 38:19

Um way too trusting, for sure. Yeah. Way too seeking glory.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Yeah. And he also really didn't want to be in the war, it seemed like, either. He wanted to just go away with the girl that he had. But was kind of he has he's the youngest in the zombie family and kind of has to show that valor. And I I th I think in getting caught up in that, it it really leads to his own downfall, whether it was a betrayal or not.

SPEAKER_00 38:52

Which that's part of the realism that we talked about. I mean, how many times do you think that's happened, you know, in different countries and different time periods? One person doesn't want to be in the military, one person doesn't want to go to war, and either they are forced to, or it's a family thing, or, you know, whatever. They they end up having terrible, you know, consequences because of something they didn't want to do. Or like we see politicians make decisions and who has to go fight that war, not you know, not them, uh 18-year-old kids or whatever. And so, you know, it's a kind of a good discussion, and then we see, you know, his fiancee tries to take revenge, and it ends up leading to her and a lot of other people's deaths, and you know, all of that heartbreak that really didn't have to happen, probably, but you know, everybody out for glory and honor and all that kind of stuff.

Mobile Suits Tech And War Profiteers

SPEAKER_01 39:59

Yeah. Super, super messy. Um, and of course, the other members of the zombie family, they kind of get into this. The uh Degwen is the old guy. He's like the leader of the zombie family. He's super evil. At least he looks to be. I I think he is very evil. Um he kind of brushed off Garma's death, his own own son. Um Girin, the guy that looked like Giovanni, is I think he's the eldest brother. Don't quote me on that though. He's taking charge against White Base now. He's like the next up in line to like try to take him down. Um, and then we have Dozel and Caysilia, the other siblings. Um, they seem more upset about the death of their brother than Girin does. And of course, Degwen doesn't really seem to be. There's kind of a a there's a speech at the end where Girin's trying to get public sway because of it, and then Degwen has kind of a little scene where they're he's he's like looking at a picture of Garma. But they seem very, very cold to the situation.

SPEAKER_00 41:13

Yeah, so there's one talk through with you, I can ask you maybe I've misinterpreted something. It felt like to me the king was not wanting to exploit Garma's death for you know a military-political purpose, and he wanted to actually grieve his son and not foment more violence. Whereas to me, it felt like the siblings and the younger people, I mean, I think they were legitimately angry about it, but they were also, we can use this to stir up war. And so instead of being grief stricken, they were angry. Whereas to me, it felt like the king was sorrowful and just wanted to grieve. And they were like, nah, we can, you know, make everybody want to fight the Federation because of this. And so they just used, you know, never let a crisis go to waste, that type of thing.

SPEAKER_01 42:14

And yeah, I think that's a really good way of looking at it. I did not I didn't even notice that. But now now that you're saying it, I do, I do see that.

SPEAKER_00 42:25

And I feel like that's another real I mean, people use funerals of public figures all the time to push whatever their agenda is rather than actually talk about the person or their family or grieve. They just use it as a club, you know, and it's like that's that is how people in that realm are.

SPEAKER_01 42:48

But yeah, and we'll we'll see more of the zombie family soon. Um, we can see that yeah, super nice guys. Char does not like them. Um, and there was at one point whenever it was when Garma died. He said something like, it doesn't matter who else sees it as long as the zombie family gets the message or something like that. Thought that was uh very experienced. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

There's a lot of family and backstabbing and you know honoring. Yeah, it's like you said, space opera for sure. Like feel like I'm you know watching Macbeth or something.

SPEAKER_01 43:34

Supposedly they're making a Hollywood movie again about this. I don't know how dude, I don't know how they will make a single movie about this. It seems pretty packed for one movie.

SPEAKER_00 43:49

But uh kind of like Voltron the straight to Amazon Prime movie. I I have Remember Henry Campbell. Oh, is that is that Still happening? Yeah, it's still happening. Dude, let's go. There was an update on it not very long ago, but uh we will be reviewing that. Oh, for sure. I'm hoping they don't ruin it and it's not horrible, but yeah. We'll see. It sounds like it's supposed to be kind of future from what some of the shows and stuff were, but okay. I don't think it's supposed to connect at all to the DreamWorks show. I think it's supposed to be based totally off the older shows.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

Yeah, I would assume so. I'm sure he's seen both though.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

Oh yeah. He's our he's our dude, man. He's that was one where after we watched the DreamWorks Voltron, we wanted to watch the 80s Voltron. Yeah, and it's it's rough. The first couple I I got through about two or three episodes and I was just like, wow, this is not good.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

It's like this. Except a little bit worse.

SPEAKER_00 45:02

I just don't like any cartoon animation stuff from the 80s.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

I just my I think my favorite era of animation is probably like probably 90s. Like anywhere from like 92, 94 to like 98, 99. Yeah, I totally agree. I I think cell shading just looks a lot prettier. Again, Zeta has that 90s kind of look to it, and it looks a lot prettier on the i2.

SPEAKER_00 45:29

Doesn't look as lobby. I think 90s animation. One, I think the shows were the best, but I also think the animation was the best and the prettiest. And you could say some of that for really early 2000s as well, but it started to get too too much into the 3D assisted animation. Totally agree. Yeah. It like we talked about this on the show before, but like there were some very palpable jarring transitions in Pokemon. One of them happens towards the end of the Johto arc, one of them happens towards the end of uh Ruby and Sapphire, there's other jarring animation shifts in the show, and it like that can that can be very alienating and make people not want to watch I I that's part of what I love so much about the original Pokemon series, is the just the character of the animation. But I agree with that. And that's one thing in this this is not like we said, this is 80s animation, this is not Erwell's 70s, 80s animation, it's not 90s, and there's some stuff in it that I find to be pretty good, especially for the time period, and then there's some stuff I find to be horrible. But I think like one for one, the the Gundam, the main Gundam looks really cool to me. I like that some of the background scenery stuff looks good, but a lot of the people and stuff just looks so bad.

SPEAKER_01 47:02

Or like when they run into the foreground or background, you get a lot of weird depth issues or like stretching of things that have been animated. I've always turned into exactly. And sometimes when sometimes you can actually see the cell that's over other cells. Like if it's in space, you can see a star or like um if there's a mistake on a cell, sometimes you can see a little like speck of paint where it's not supposed to be moving around. But that's just a nitpick. But it's something that I noticed quite a bit watching this.

SPEAKER_00 47:39

It's very clear who they were spending money on animating and who they weren't.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

It's like we gotta sell toys.

SPEAKER_00 47:47

Yeah. Char, I mean, they have way more detail, and then there's so many characters where it's like, uh, here's a dot for the eyes and nose and mouth, and that's it. And it's just like Yep. It's really funny.

SPEAKER_01 48:04

There's some really I I don't remember everything about it, but there's some really interesting stories about like the creation of the show. Um they uh Sun when Sunrise was making it, I could be completely wrong, but it seems like I remember someone talking about um there was this show called it's like I think it's Starship Yamato, it's like a like a navy ship in space. And the people who worked on that, they were trying to get them to work on this. Um and they were worried that it'd be too much like a toy sales thing. But when they pitched it, they were like, oh no, this has a lot of depth to it. Like this could be something good, so that's why they eventually picked it up. But again, that doesn't stop low budget from from like distorting things and making it a little cheap looking.

SPEAKER_00 49:02

Yeah, there's definitely some scenes where you're like, bro.

SPEAKER_01 49:05

Has that like early Transformers and G.I. Joe kind of vibe to it?

Worldbuilding Notes And Movie Theater Rant

SPEAKER_00 49:09

Yeah. Okay, so that's one while we're talking 80s animation. I've gotta say this. So when we were roommates, we we tried watching some of the 80s G.I. Joe. And it was one of the worst shows I've ever watched in my life. And I know a lot of people like it, but I was just like creeping.

SPEAKER_01 49:28

It's so funny too. Like they're just getting into these like situations. They aren't even conflicts, they're just situations they're getting into.

SPEAKER_00 49:38

And then I forced myself to watch the original 80s Transformers series when I was like 30 or 31, and the whole time I'm just like gritting my teeth, just suffering through it. I did probably skip some episodes. I was like, this is terrible, and I say that with I love Peter Cullen and Casey Kaysome voice uh Transformers in that. So obviously nothing about the quality of the voices and music, just the show writing, the animation, so bad. And I mean, obviously it's for kids, but it just was so bad. 80s cartoons really feel like they're for kids, whereas 90s cartoons felt like they f were for the kid to watch with their parent. And that's what they always said about Batman the Animated Series. They wanted to make a show that the dad would want to watch with the kid. And that's I feel like that's a big that's why I hate 80s cartoons is I'm like, wow, this is so childish, because I grew up with you know, 90s, early 2000s cartoons that were like, let's talk about death, you know. Yeah, but anyway.

SPEAKER_01 50:49

Well, no, that's the situation with this. Like in the this one came out um late 70s, right? And then the next series comes out 10 years later, and it's a 10-year jump in the actual show, and there's like crossover characters and stuff. And you immediately get that like gritty feeling that you get from like the 90s Spider-Man cartoon. Like it it feels like they've taken it up a notch, everyone's cooler, everyone has like I don't know, like their own things going on. It isn't as like whiny in tone, it's more like what can we do to make this more awesome? Um, and that's something with this. Like, you you just get this very just like there's serious things going on, but it comes across as very silly feeling a lot of the time.

SPEAKER_00 51:37

Very feeling speed racer a lot when I'm watching this. Precisely it's more like slaps.

SPEAKER_01 51:44

There's serious situations, but it's playing it off way too silly.

SPEAKER_00 51:50

Yeah. They I like I feel like they did not do humor well at all in the 80s, it's just annoying.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:58

And you know, like we've talked about how much we love the DreamWorks, Netflix, Voltron. Like, there were really serious situations, there were a lot of funny situations, and they knew when and how to do the funny. Whereas 80s cartoons are just like, hey, I'm an annoying kid character. Let me be super annoying and dumb the whole time.

SPEAKER_01 52:16

Yeah, like they have the kids on board white base, and they're only the only point of them is that like every episode or two, they'll show them for like 30 minutes, like screaming at each other. It's like, why is this here?

SPEAKER_00 52:28

I don't like it. I'm not a fan of the annoying kid trope. Like, okay, this is one that you're probably gonna disagree with me some on, and a lot of people would because everyone loves him, but Steven Spielberg drives me crazy with this trope in so many of his movies. The children, preteens, teenagers are insufferable. They are so stupid, they are so whiny, they, you know, just like, dude, how dumb and annoying and selfish can you be? And like I feel like he does that trope so much with some of his child characters that it makes it hard for me to even watch the movies.

SPEAKER_01 53:07

Well, I think that's just kind of a thing with a lot of his movies. I I I'm similar to you. Like, I I feel like he leans into the whimsy and he leans into the supernatural of things, but in doing so, he you can always tell it's him because there's this very campiness to it that doesn't it doesn't come across as like even when I was younger, I'd be like, this just doesn't seem funny. I d I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 53:37

This isn't how children actually exactly.

SPEAKER_01 53:40

It's not how yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 53:43

Like, here's a good example. So everyone talks about Stranger Things and the 80s influences and all that kind of stuff. So after I had watched the first season or two or whatever of Stranger Things, everyone was talking about, okay, well, what are the influences? You've got to watch this, you've got to watch this. And one of the primary ones was Goonies. And so I was like, okay, well, I'm gonna watch Goonies because everyone says it's it's what, you know, one of the main things that influenced Stranger Things. And my parents both were like, do not watch it, you're gonna hate it, it's so dumb. And I was like, no, I'm gonna watch it. I hated it. It was like so dumb to me. And I know people love Goonies, but I hated it, and it's just that same kind of feel of like, this is nothing like Stranger Things to me beyond just children getting into an 80s themed adventure. But have you watched Star Wars Skeleton Crew?

SPEAKER_01 54:34

Uh no. I feel like it's a good in-between where it actually feels like like it has a similar tone to Goonies, but it also doesn't do the whiny thing. I don't know. I I feel like it would be a good thing for us to review sometime. I I think that show's great. Um, and people overlooked it quite a bit.

SPEAKER_00 55:01

Obviously I have.

SPEAKER_01 55:02

Yeah. I I think it's cool. It's a good pirate adventure kind of thing. In the Star Wars universe.

SPEAKER_00 55:10

Hondo. Dude, Hondo.

SPEAKER_01 55:13

I wish he was.

SPEAKER_00 55:14

Man, they went to that well a lot.

SPEAKER_01 55:15

There's a Jedi pirate in this though.

SPEAKER_00 55:18

So Or maybe a Jedi pirate. Does it have a parrot?

SPEAKER_01 55:24

No, but he has a uh he has a droid that's like a like a pirate like crewmate. Dude, droids everywhere. Yeah, it's awesome. So back back back to Gundam. We have two more characters to talk about. Matilda, she's the um I don't know what rank she is, but she keeps coming to help like supply the ship and like give them a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

Is this the one that Amro has the crush on?

SPEAKER_01 55:51

Yeah, for some reason instead of Fraubo.

SPEAKER_00 55:54

They're like lying in there about the first time he ever noticed a woman was this woman. But she was like Fraubo.

SPEAKER_01 56:03

She's like, oh, I'm so proud of you, and then he's like in love for some reason.

SPEAKER_00 56:08

It's like He's a little old for you, dude.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

Dude, chill out. So she she she keeps showing up, um, getting like battle reports, and she's like, Yeah, you guys are testing really well, so we're not gonna change anything. It's this weird like Truman show thing where people are watching them fight, apparently, from the Federation side.

SPEAKER_00 56:27

But like And we're not gonna give you any more surprise, even though we said we were going to.

SPEAKER_01 56:31

Right. And she kind of leans into this a little bit. You hear her talking about the new types, we'll hear more about them later. But uh it's almost like she keeps wanting to hint it, like maybe someone on the crew is being looked out because of this. So it's an interesting takeaway. Um, then the last guy we see is Rumbarall. He is the pilot of the goof who was not messing around.

SPEAKER_00 56:59

He's checked the map, goof.

SPEAKER_01 57:01

He was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 57:03

Yeah, okay, so uh he's clearly supposed to be a bad guy, but me and Will are both like, yeah, he's at the bomb. He's cool. He's also not a bad guy in some of the other media. He's just got his wife up there watching him kick butt.

SPEAKER_01 57:21

Yeah. And they have their own like personal tank.

SPEAKER_00 57:26

Yeah, it's awesome. Pretty big fan there.

Music Choices And Dub Differences

SPEAKER_01 57:29

I'm a big, big rumberall fan.

SPEAKER_00 57:33

Definitely good with the goof.

SPEAKER_01 57:35

Yeah, I like I like that it has like oh like the whip and the shield and like all these crazy like accessories and acutre monts that the other Zakus don't have. So when he shows up and fights Omru, Amro just doesn't even know what to do because he can't adapt to any situations.

SPEAKER_00 57:52

Yeah, Amro panics hardcore. And the guy is clearly just like punking him.

SPEAKER_01 57:59

Yup. Yeah, that was that was pretty cool. Uh I hate Omro. Yeah, he's pretty annoying. So we see we see a fair share of mobile suits in this. We see the Gundam the Arc 78 2. Um so an interesting tidbit. There is this company in universe called Anaheim Electronics. They make all of the mobile suits. They had some investment in this one too, but they're basically just like cashing out on both sides. So yeah. At the beginning of the show, the Xeon Zaku is like the Zaku 2 is like the best in universe and the goof and all this stuff, right? Like they could defeat any Federation unit. Because they mentioned at one point the gun tank is like a super defective unit. Like they they don't even know why they're sending these out whenever Omro was like crying and didn't want to go out with the Gundam, and they had the gun tank on the field. So out of nowhere, they've developed this suit that's like ten times better than the Zaku. So Anaheim Electronics, they're you know losing money on this war if no one's fighting each other, so they're like, we gotta even the playing field and give them a better one to fight against the thousands and thousands of Zakus.

SPEAKER_00 59:24

So profiting off of extending the war.

SPEAKER_01 59:28

And and they don't really ever mention Anaheim. You just see their logos on everything as the show goes on. And I find that very interesting.

SPEAKER_00 59:37

Are they from Anaheim in in maybe they could be Los Angeles?

SPEAKER_01 59:42

Um, but it's it they play a huge part in like every Gundam series in the Universal Century. They're just constantly making suits for both sides, and no one is ever commenting on the fact that they're doing that in the show. Um Dude, everyone's just okay with it. They are okay with it. Because, you know, the normal person isn't like inspecting the manufacturer of each suit.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:07

Um And that is probably realistic. I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:12

Yeah, you have these like war companies just making things for both sides and just painting over them.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:18

You know, have you ever watched, um, which obviously it's from books, but have you ever watched the Robert Downey Jr. Sherlock Holmes movies?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:25

Yes, those are so good.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:27

It's like Moriarty's whole plan, you know. Yeah, yeah. Control all the bandages, all the bullets, everything, sell them to all the different countries, like ahead of its time, kind of, but yeah, I love those movies. I I want Robert Downey. I wish they would have made a quit doing all the other things he's doing and finish this. Because they've been talking about the next Sherlock Holmes movie for years.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:50

Yeah, since like before the first Avengers movie, they were talking about this.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:55

And he they still haven't done it. And it's like quit doing Marvel movies and do the Sherlock Holmes movies.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:02

But now they're obligated to do like a oh, he's all washed up and old now. Yeah. Um, but yeah, we have the RX 782 crazy unit. They can't even like destroy it, right? It's super powerful, nothing like they've ever seen. And then we have our Zakus, the chump units. Um, they have this like massive like Lewis Lewis gun with them.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:26

Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking when I saw it, Lewis gun.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:32

So that's one thing. So at first, which uh all shows and movies do this, but it's like, oh, look how tough and awesome these Zakus are. And then in like 10 minutes, he is just like ripping their atoms apart.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:46

Dude, he would he takes the beam saber and just like thrashes it through the cockpit.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:51

And they just like explode. I mean, into these metal. Well, they have nuclear reactors in them. That's their photo. So that's what okay, and so let me ask you about this. So all those the green regular Zakus have this thing, it almost looks like an oxygen hose on the front of it. And every time he'll like go and cut that, and then they'll like explode. So is that which I feel like in the first episode they didn't explode when he cut that, but what is that?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:23

Those are I think those are like pneumatics or hydraulics. They go through the legs, they go through the torso, and they go into the back and through the head. So, like whenever you're in space and that gets cut, it depressurizes and explodes.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:38

Oh, okay. Well, see, that makes sense then, because it didn't explode on the planet.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:44

And the Gundam doesn't have that. The Gundam has like some kind of like actuators or something.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:51

Okay, well, that's a very good detail then. So thank you for clearing that up for me.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:56

And also another thing, the red comet, they mentioned that it's three times faster. Char has like special like equipment on his that's different than the other ones. So he has like extra like rocket boosters and stuff. So he can actually go three times faster than the other Zakus.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:13

And then he's just sending all of them in with to fight and then bailing on them and being like, sorry, it was so funny whenever he was in the ship with Garma, he's like, oh yeah, no, I I have to go out before you.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:25

I'm I'm like your you know, second at command. I have to go first. And then he just abandons him and like lets him die. Yeah. He's very sneaky. Very clever. Um dude, the goof is like Azaku, but it's like so much better. So much better. Has more armor, it has uh the shield, the whip, all these crazy add-ons. Um as we can see, the Gundam at first has a really hard time stacking up against him. Um whether that continues or not, I don't remember. But for now, the goof is the most powerful Xeon unit that they've faced. And we talked about the gun the gun cannon's the one that was red. Goodness. I can't talk right now. The gun cannon's the one that's red with the um cannons on the shoulders. Um it's kind of a weakling unit. I think it's like slightly weaker than the the Zaku.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:31

Um I think they would have been well served to put a little more detail into the other.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:37

Yeah. And it can't fly either. The Zakus have jetpacks, but none of the other Federation units, except for like fighter jets, have um jetpacks.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:48

Yeah, and they're like sending these things into the air and then just like the one scene where they're on he lands on that ship and then he falls off, and uh Gundam and Amaro have to grab him. And it's like this was maybe not very well thought out to just have him hovering in the air on a ship when he can't fly. Like, and we'll see this like later.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:11

Like in Zeta, they the Federation still hasn't developed technology for this. So some some units will have jetpacks, but then other units that are similar and I don't know, priced to build like the gun cannon will have these like almost surfboard-like things that they fly around on when they're in the atmosphere. Um, and if those get blown out, there's no way for them to like recover. Or like they'll send some units in with parachutes.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:42

So what is the Federation's problem? Uh why are you so big a losers?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:49

I I think it's like a monetary thing, honestly. I I think they just don't have resources. I think it's the kind of situation where they've moved to space and They found like space resources not available on Earth and became super rich super quick. Federation's trying to like recoup that and like take control of it so they can get their people and their money back. And they're kind of, you know, after eight months of fighting, they've lost 50% of the population. Earth has been like hollowed out by missiles and satellites and whatnot.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:25

So like Dude, when you told me that was the kingdom, I was sad.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:30

Oh yeah. That was sad. I didn't know that either. Just made it up. Yeah, just on the spot. What an interesting thing for them to put in there though. Um White Base was also designed by Amar's dad.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:50

Um MIA still.

Themes That Land Despite Flaws

SPEAKER_01 1:06:52

MIA still, yeah. Um we haven't really gotten much about it other than like it's different than anything they've ever seen. I can't tell if it's strong or weak yet. Um I think its main thing, it it just has a good carrying capacity for units. I think they have like two gun cannons on board, a gun tank, gundam, and then a bunch of like spare parts. No, not at all. They were ill-equipped for this. Most of the weapons were destroyed because they were supposed to be loaded on the ship, but Slender destroyed them with the Zaka at the beginning of the show. So they should have had two no three gun tanks, three gun cannons, and gundam. And I think in the manga version, I think they were working on another RX 78. But it got destroyed. Um and in this show, they don't really upgrade the Gundam as they go, but in the manga, they do upgrade it as they go. So it eventually like gets all these like add-ons and stuff. Um so that's uh interesting thing. But yeah. Um what do you what do you think about the world of this? Like the setting and kind of where they are.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:15

So the Earth situation is interesting to me. I mean, man, pretty sad. Earth is just devastated. So I find that relatively intriguing. I like the concept of this giant spaceship with like Earth on it, basically.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:35

And there's there's dozens of those, by the way. Side seven is one of however.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:41

That's where all their money went. Yeah, for sure. But yeah, because the Federation built those. I find a lot of the rest of it like super forgettable. A lot of the space battles and different places they are and everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:56

Like, I feel like I'm just like watching the same thing over and over and one of these like I had to look up where they even were at some parts. Like uh they mentioned Luna 2, and then they're like, oh, we're going to Earth, and they don't say where they're at on Earth. So I I had to look that up. They went to Seattle. They were in North America before they go to Europe. And they just don't mention location enough.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:20

And then I saw thought it was a little strange. Uh 12th or 13th episode, probably, they start like describing the dimensions in intricate detail of the kilometers of this ship or whatever. And I'm like, they didn't do anything like that other in the show or give you any details within this. They're like spelling out the exact specifications.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:45

But like in case anyone wants to build their own.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:49

Got the blueprint that I can go to Home Depot and get buttons light. That Project Hail Mary movie, people were mad about that because there was a blueprint of the ship in the book, and apparently they changed it for the movie to be a just completely different design.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:06

Oh man. I I actually I haven't seen it yet.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:10

Dude, I it may have been one of the best movies that I've seen like in a year.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:16

That was one thing. I saw this the other day, uh, and I don't know if it's true. I just saw it on social media, so there's your caveat there. But um supposedly Ryan Gosling said it's not, he said to audiences, it's not your job to save movie theaters. Yeah, it's not your job to come to the movie and support us and all that kind of stuff. It's our job to make movies so good you want to come back to the movie theater. Yep, I saw that. And I thought that was awesome because I see this all the time of movie executives and all this stuff totally blaming everything on the consumer. The consumer's too stupid to watch this. Or I've literally seen them say, major movie executives say they're too racist or they're too sexist to come see this movie.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:05

Or uh maybe if you didn't spend$12 billion on the advertising for this, you'd make some money.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:11

Yeah, I mean, like, make a good movie, and they'll blame like, oh, they don't want to come to the movie. They want to do streaming. And it's like, you mean the streaming for your company that you put the thing on the street? That you're losing money on still. Yeah, it's and like every movie a lot of these companies do are just they're just taking a lot of things. This was an Amazon movie, too. And so I love that mindset of I'm the consumer. You are the one who has to earn my business. I don't owe that to you. And like I I can watch her do a bazillion things other than go to the movie theater and pay 30 bucks between a ticket and snacks. So I thought that was really cool. I do plan on watching it. I haven't decided if I'm going to go to the movie theater or if I'm going to watch it on streaming.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:02

I think either way you do it, it's worth watching. Um, and I think we should do a review on it.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:07

I I I do think it was a very good movie. The only preview I've seen, it looked fun. It was fun. You and me like fun movies.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:16

There's something towards the end I'm not too big on, but we can talk about that later. Um this is a different review, but I I I am very opinionated about something in that movie. But it was a great movie. Can't go wrong.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:33

Um, but music and art on Gundam.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:38

Yeah, we've talked about the art a lot.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:41

Yeah. Art some good, some bad, yeah for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:44

Mostly bad, probably. But you had some different music than I did in the movie. The movie had some really good music, like by specific like Japanese artists, but the show, you just got like the intro, the outro, and then you got that thing in the middle where it's like, shoo! Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:02

Well, okay, I have to at least make one comment about the ode to Amaro song at the end of credit. It's so weird. I feel like I am watching listening to an RB love song to Amaro.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:19

And it's like, bro, what is my friends and I crack up at that song. It's so stupid. There's also a char one, it's not in the show for some reason, but it's like a tropical sounding song where they just keep chanting char.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:36

That's so weird. It there's a lot of weirdness in this. And like I skip the first two and a half minutes of every episode, and I skipped probably the last two and a half minutes of every episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:50

But yeah, I wish that Rocky Roll or Netflix still had the movies because you would be watching that entire thing you watch in two hours with no intro, outro, filler.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:02

Yeah, that would be great.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:04

Yeah. You you got a lot of filler in yours. That's uh that's the only thing that I was straight up grinding to try to get this done before the if possible, if there is a way to find the dub of the other before the next one. Uh do yourself a favor because it is a slog to get through the show by itself. I I hated watching it in TV show form.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:32

I had to watch it in TV form. It's been work for sure. I actually kind of liked it a little bit better in a way, watching it on my phone on YouTube outside than sitting it by my TV and watching it. I it's one of those shows you cannot just sit and watch. You have to do safe wall that's on. It's just not intriguing enough for that. Like I was sitting there playing Fire Rid on my Switch at one point while I was watching.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:00

You're like, come on, I gotta watch this again. Yeah. And it's weird. It's like I said, I don't hate it.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:06

Yeah, that's I just don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:08

I could not find if we were not reviewing this or if I wasn't showing someone this, I would not be watching this either. Like, it is just not as good of a show as some of the later stuff is. It's just there. Yes, you know. They they just released a movie on Netflix recently about Bright Noah's son.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:29

Dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:30

And it's the theme song to it is Oh Sweet Child of Mine.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:38

Dude, that's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:40

Yeah, they couldn't even make a theme song for it. They had to do Sweet Child of Mine by Guns N' Roses. Um But yeah, that was uh the music uh the intro is not good, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:55

No, I hate the intro. It's really cringe. I don't need that recap every time.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:58

The outro is horrible. There's some weird like music things going on. Like when it's playing the it has the weird like computerized sounds, you know what I mean? There's like Yeah, there's some odd but then other things like the like the fight music where it's like doom doom doom do that one's awesome. I like that one. Any anytime a fight is going down in the show, the music is super hype. Yeah, we like hype. We like hype. But any any other time it's like kinda not great. Or or there's this like um you know like the late 80s, early 90s, like synth sound, like whenever they like sit someone down on uh full house and they're having a conversation with them about something important and it's playing this weird, like starry kind of synth music. They do that a lot too, I've noticed.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:52

Big fan of the synth.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:54

Yeah, I I do like that. So so hype music and synth music, I think, are good. I think all the other music is kind of weak in this show, personally.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:03

Yeah, it's very non-notable music.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:06

Yes. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:08

Um It's kind of like you've told me that which I haven't seen this and you have, but it's kind of like you told me we're really just watching this to get to the better series later.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:22

Yeah, you have you have the original series, you have Zeta, and those are both the same length practically. It's just three movies of each. And then there was a final one that closes it out called Char's Counterattack. And then optionally, there's also um The Origin, and it's about Char. And it's like I think it's like four episodes, and they're they're like 40 minutes long or something. And it's it's made in modern day, so it's it's a little bit easier on the eyes to watch. Good. Yeah. That so yeah, it could go one one of two directions. You could go back and watch The Origin, or you could watch Zeta as a optional route. Um yeah, the themes of this, we've talked about this already. War bad. Um Child Soldier.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:25

Nobody wants to. And it does. I I do when I see stuff like this, you know, it just makes me say, and I understand, like, I'm not trying to make a political, geopolitical statement. Like, there are times obviously where a country has to take military action. However, it just makes you feel like, man, like so many times in history and stuff, it's so pointless. Like it didn't have to, it didn't have to be that way. Somebody was just being so stubborn or so selfish or whatever that you know it leads to death and destruction and war that we didn't have to have. And there's so many times, especially as you get older, you're like just shaking your head like, you know, why does it have to be this way? Why do people have to be so stubborn? And, you know, so definitely when I'm watching it, I I feel that sometimes, and I'm just like And this is a it's a very politically charged show, but not in like a divisive kind of way.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:22

It's more of like this is something that most reasonable people could agree on. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:30

They're not preaching at you from a particular political position or whatever. They're just making a commentary on life and philosophy and very neutral stance.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:42

You you you're an observer of both sides, even though it does focus on one primarily.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:50

Yeah, it it I it I do like a lot of that type of thing. I think they've handled that well.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:57

Yeah. Well, what do you want to see next? Sorry. Give me just a second.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:07

He's laughing about war. The horrors of war.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:13

My throat got so dry that I could I couldn't talk. I'd take a drink of water.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:19

So time of year.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:20

The time of year that I have to drink water.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:23

Yeah, that once a year where you like a camel.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:27

Just like a camel.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:29

It's like my dog, okay. Side note about animals and dogs. I don't know if maybe anybody out there can tell me this. I've had several different dogs in my life, different uh what do you call it, breeds, mutts, all kinds of stuff. The I have had one golden retriever and one golden doodle. Both of them are have been extremely stubborn, especially the golden doodle, about drinking water. They will not drink it, no matter what, especially this golden doodle. And every now and then he'll just go and drink a ton of water. But like he could be like looking like he's about to die of thirst, and you can offer him water from a water bottle, you can offer him from the hose, from the sink, whatever, and he'll be like, I don't want your filthy water. And it's just like so funny to me that I don't know if that's a golden retriever thing or whatever. I definitely think doodles are weird. Yeah, doodles are super weird, yeah. And he's very anxious and everything.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:36

You can bring a dog to water, but you gotta put the bowl in a specific location with a specific temperature of water to make him drink.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:46

And then we have another dog who's a he's a Shizu Bishan mix, and he is not picky about it at all. He'll he'll drink out of anything, he'll drink, he'll look at our water bottle if he's thirsty and be like trying to get us to give him some water out of the water bottle, and he drinks all the time.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:00

How we wouldn't be picky about water, but he preferred when we would have it in like a cool whip bowl, and then sometimes he would kick his food into the water, and then he wouldn't want to drink the water through the feed in it because it's gross. I don't blame him.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:15

He just wouldn't think they would care what they do.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:19

But that's it's pretty funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:22

Yeah, my doodle's super picky about it. Also that doesn't sound like a real sentence, but it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:30

It is, truly is something.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:33

Yeah, so what should we expect next? I guess we should the next 13 episodes or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:38

Oh my gosh. Yeah. Good walk. So sorry to put you through this.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:47

So when are we planning on doing we're gonna have this out in the next few weeks, I believe. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:54

Yeah. We'll do we'll do Gundam one in the next few weeks. Or I guess every other week we'll do a review, you think?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:02

Um Yeah, and we were gonna do a discussion on Batman Universe. Yes, yes.

Games We Want To Stream

SPEAKER_01 1:23:09

Next week is Batman Universe discussion.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:13

If you're not familiar with Batman Universe, that was a limited short series comic run of Batman uh came out a few years ago, and Batman is just kind of going on some wild adventures through characters you wouldn't expect. Yeah, and it's a lot more like I mean, there's some intense stuff, but it's it's primarily more like lighthearted, whimsical. And Will and I are both huge fans of that series. I've only read through it once, but I loved it, and so we're gonna read through that again and talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:49

Any Batman comic that has dinosaurs in it, yeah, you know it's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:53

That one seals it for you as this this comic rocks.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:58

It's so good. Um, but yeah, we'll do a discussion. We're gonna separate comic stuff from our typical reviews. We'll have reviews like allocated for TV shows and movies. My thought at least, we do the rest of the original Gundam series every other week. So we'll do this one this upcoming Tuesday, then we'll have our Batman comic discussion on Batman Universe, then we'll have Gundam 2 following that. Um what was the topic that we were gonna? It was Pokemon related, right? It was our top five hot takes. Yeah, top five Pokemon hot takes, and then the following week will be Gundam II. Um we can I think we can make like some kind of like post about that on YouTube or something. Possibly have just like a tentative schedule.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:51

Um Will and I are both pretty new to some a lot of this stuff, so we're working out, figuring out our YouTube channel and all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:01

But yeah, if you have any suggestions too, let us know.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:04

Um we would appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:07

But I think we should split up any future Gundam stuff and do some other reviews in between. I want to do some reviews about games. I wouldn't mind if we did like uh you're doing Pokemon Fire Red right now, and so am I. I think that would be a great one to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:23

Uh maybe I could talk about Fire Red all day.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:27

Yeah, let's let's plan for that. Let's make that our next like upcoming review after we're done with Gundam.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:32

And then I'm honestly probably I'm playing through it right now, and then I'm probably going to go back soon and play through it again different. Dude. So I won't get into a lot because we I want to save it for the discussion, but the reason I'm saying this is for the first time ever, because I've like never had anybody to trade with or whatever, I decided this time I was going to use my old Switch and my Switch 2, and I was going to have Charmander, Squirtle, and Bulbasaur. Well, I didn't think through some things when I did that. And so it has kind of complicated my processes and my team, and I had actually forgotten about a few things in the game that are have made it not be as optimum as I wanted. So I'm going to play through like that, and then I plan on doing a separate playthrough where I say, I am just going to make what is my what I think the best possible team is, and I'm going to try to not lose, not have a single Pokemon. Double sprout. Yeah. I usually try to just play where I I don't I try not to have any of my Pokemon faint, but my primary thing is just trying not to lose the battle.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:43

I don't like Pokemon fainting, it makes me sad.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:45

Yes, I agree. I'm feel like I've let them down. Yeah. But I really want to get through the whole playthrough where not a single Pokemon faints. But so I'm gonna try to do that.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:56

But I want to try to get our Legends EA review on YouTube. I've been kind of lazy about that. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:03

Well, it's just really a complicated process for us.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:06

Yeah, it's on audio streams, but yeah, I I need to get that done.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:12

That was I think that was the first one we actually recorded, and we didn't have this all set up properly at the time, and so it's on MP3. Yep. Can't upload that to YouTube. So we're trying to get I I think we do have it posted on the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:28

Yeah, it's it's on the podcast platforms, but we need to I feel like it might do some numbers on YouTube. Um more than one, maybe, hopefully.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:40

Yeah, more yeah, Ryan. Let us know what we can do to get more than one.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:44

He's not watching this one. He doesn't he doesn't.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:48

Oh, that's true. Yeah, I thought about that earlier. I was like Ryan's.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:50

This is a very niche one.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:52

Yeah. Um maybe there's some Gundam fans out there named Ryan, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:56

I mean, yeah. Any Gundam fan named Ryan? Let us know. Help us out. Seven army of Orions replayed. Yeah. I think we should stream a game sometime too. I've been wanting to show you Alan Awake.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:14

Yeah. What game is we're doing this? I wanted to stream Okamon, but you were saying my laptop probably couldn't handle it. I don't know if there's a way I could record it and then upload it. I don't know if that would be easier or not.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:26

It might be kind of funky. We we could do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:30

Um or we could just stream cures.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:32

Yeah, if we just stream one and then like maybe we work together and pick things. There's an app that I can use that you could like take control of the screen too with a controller plugged in so we could like both have control over it. Um and I I can do like Emerald. We could do Emerald that way. If that sounds good.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:52

Yeah, we've been wanting to do some other Pokemon games like we had talked about Omega Ruby Alpha Sapphire or Ruby Sapphire Emerald, you know. I I'm always game to play a Pokemon game.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:02

You wanna you wanna stream some Emerald sometime?

SPEAKER_00 1:29:05

Yeah, I have never played Emerald. What?

SPEAKER_01 1:29:08

Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, I've seen it. Have some good stuff going on. We'll we'll come up with a schedule for that. Oh yeah, I still haven't played that yet either.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:22

I just haven't had time. I've been doing so many other things lately, I haven't really played any video games.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:28

That's how I've I I got into a game recently. You know how I was telling you I really like that Mafia game? I started playing Mafia 2, and it takes place in like the 40s and 50s, and it's pretty cool. Um I've gotten a good bit through that. I was playing it right before the podcast today. Um, and then I was I still haven't finished Persona 5. This game is the longest game I've ever played. It is like I'm almost at 200 hours in this game. It is getting annoying. Um I started Persona 4 on my Switch. I started Fire Red again on my Switch. I I'm playing Pukopia. I would like to do a review of Pocopia at some point. Yeah, I was gonna ask you what you thought about it. I haven't played it. Dude, you should try it. I I you know at first I was like, I don't know if it'd be the kind of game for him. I I think you might actually enjoy this. There's this very eerie feeling to the world where there's been some kind of like apocalypse, and people in Pokemon have just become disappeared from the planet for some reason, and you're sort of exploring those things, but you're also interacting with the Pokemon. It's very cute, very like friendship focused with that. It's not necessarily super build focused yet, but I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:42

That's the thing that worries me, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:44

Yeah, I'm a little worried about that too. It seems mostly like you're collecting resources sometimes and crafting things or buying things. But you're mostly just trying to make habitats that Pokemon like to live in. So I also I wouldn't mind streaming when Tomodachi Life comes out. We can create an island with uh characters and like make characters to go on that. I think that'd be fun. Batman. But yeah. We'll just we'll just see how this this all works out, get a schedule going. Yeah. Next week, Batman Universe, week after Gundam 2. What shall we expect next in Gundam?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:33

More space battles, more more Char and uh Omro chasing each other. Yes, yes, yes. That's what I guess.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:43

Alright. And any any other things?

SPEAKER_00 1:31:47

Over under, give me the overunder how many times they say the word omro uh in the in that in Gundam 2. I'm over under 100. Over under 250. 250. So you're going way over, yeah. I I mean they gotta say it at least five or yeah, no. They gotta say it at least five or twenty.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:15

Hey Jarvis, tell me how many times they say Armor.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:18

Somebody probably there's probably some AI out there that will say how many times.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:22

It it sounds like the Haru. We didn't even talk about the little robot, the Harrow that he has at a little robot. It's kind of cute. I don't like that it has arms and legs that pop out. That does bother me.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:33

It reminds me of something. Oh, I think it's uh Chingling or whatever, the little Pokemon that looks like Pac-Man.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:40

Yeah, uh the the one that turns into Chimeco.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:46

I didn't know that. I didn't realize that it evolved into Chimeco. I think so. Are you sure?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:55

I thought so. Maybe there maybe Chimeco is a single Pokemon, but it yeah, no, it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:00

Oh no. Okay, you're right. Yeah, because I recognized it from the face. Wow, how did I not know that? Probably because I never use these Pokemon.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:08

What are you? Some kind of new type?

SPEAKER_00 1:33:12

Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:14

You think we'll see any new types in the next episode?

SPEAKER_00 1:33:18

I don't know, man. I think so. Alright. I think we'll see Omro's dad. I think Omro's friends are about to get uh mobile suits. That'd be cool. Like Voltron, kinda.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:34

Yeah, except way less cool. Way less cool. They don't turn into lions, they turn into fighter jets.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:40

Lions with different powers. Yeah. Okay, uh before we get off here, give me your favorite lions in Voltron.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:51

Oh, my favorite oh, that's tough. The blue one is awesome. I'd say blue and pink. Black is pretty cool because it's like the largest lion, but I'd say blue and pink are my favorite. Blue is my red? Red, sorry. I forgot.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:10

Yeah, blue and red are my favorite too. Because she wears pink.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:14

Yeah, because she wears pink and then continues to pilot either one sometimes.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:19

Yeah, I thought it was really cool that they kept their armor, but then it also gets kind of weird. You're like, Lance is wearing blue and the red lion, and she's wearing pink and the blue lion, and Keith is wearing red in the black line.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:31

I do think in a way it would have made it more confusing if they had been wearing the color of the lion every time they switched. So I do appreciate the way they did it.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:42

Yeah, I'm actually glad they left it that way that they kept their armor. Dude, yeah, blue and red lions to me are the best.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:48

Did you ever hang up those uh New York Comic-Con posters?

SPEAKER_00 1:34:51

Yeah, I did. The only problem I have is for some reason I have this spot on the wall where nothing wants to stay on the wall. Is it like a temperature thing? Yeah, I don't know. We're working on it. I'm probably gonna use like nails or something and just hang it that way. Fingernails? But it's the only poster that will not stay up is the Lance poster, which is really frustrating for me because Lance is my guy. I love Lance. But those are so cool. Oh, they're awesome, dude. Would I join the coalition? You better believe I would join the coalition.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:25

Nah.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:27

Especially if Coran's in it, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:29

Dude, he's so cool. He's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:31

Did you know um Peter Cullen voiced Karan in the original series?

SPEAKER_01 1:35:35

No, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:36

Isn't that a change of tone?

Final Bits And Sign-Off

SPEAKER_01 1:35:38

That is a massive change of tone.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:41

Voltron transforming. I'm going to turn into a trick now. Park it up, bucket in. Alright, I guess we should probably close this episode out.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:55

Yeah. Alright. Well, thank you guys for watching. Please share. Please. I beg of you. Please. Please watch our show.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:12

We are relying on it. We have to feed our families.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:16

The network is not gonna like this. The ratings are down. We're starving. They're starving. I've been enlisted in the Federation.

SPEAKER_00 1:36:28

They would put us in one of those Zakus and send us out to get watered.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:33

Have you seen the the ball? Uh the Gundam ball. Dude, they would send us out in one of these. Oh, dude, we'd be toast, bro. No, I haven't seen that yet. Yeah. It's it's like a mechanical thing where they use it to fix the outside of ships. But it has a cannon mounted to the top for some reason.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:00

I mean, why not, dude? You might get attacked.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:04

Yeah. Yeah. It's like if you're piloting a Segway and they've strapped like a Warthog cannon to it because like they're like, oh, you might get attacked. Well, yeah, well now people are going to try to attack me because I have a mounted gun on my Segway. That's true. That's true. Makes it way scarier. So I don't know. Maybe we'll see one of those soon.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:32

But I bet we will. I bet we won't.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:36

I'm just kidding. I just want to be contrary. You would know. Yeah, I probably wouldn't. So many microplastics from putting together Gundams, I don't remember a thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:37:46

Early age dimensions. Yeah, you have to put your Gundams on here on the channel.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:50

Nah. We'll see. I uh maybe I maybe I do a time-lapse uh end review of my my perfect great unleashed um new Gundam. That'd be cool. Yeah, you need to do that. People people like that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:07

It's very hard to obtain, so we'll see what I'm not a model builder myself, so I'm I'm a model.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:16

Yeah, like Kramer in that one episode of Seinfeld.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:19

Yeah. Oh man. Kramer is the best. I'd love to. Yeah, I'm a big fan of Kramer and Newman. Dude, we gotta talk about Seinfeld sometime.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:34

Come in. Alright. Well, thanks for watching. Any any final words?

SPEAKER_00 1:38:41

Uh don't get in Azaku, whatever you do.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:46

Ryan, if you're seeing this, type one through ten backwards in the comment below.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:53

Yeah, Ryan, we need a special comment from you every episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:58

Alright.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:59

Ryan's our top fan right now.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:01

He is our top fan. Top one hundred. Top one.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:04

Top one for sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:09

Bye bye.