Mild Inconveniences That Ruin Your Day : Two Brahs Podcast Ep: 13

The brahs dicuss the best shows intros and proceed to discuss how small things going wrong can push you over the edge.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

You're overstimulated and your fucking jacket just gets stuck on the code high uh uh on the fucking door handle two times.

SPEAKER_00 0:06

You start fucking the door They are a day late and a dollar short. Two bras. Yohoho. What the fuck? Yeah, let's not do that.

SPEAKER_02 0:22

What the fuck is Yahoo, my boy. Alright, welcome back guys.

SPEAKER_01 0:25

Yeah, welcome back.

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New episode of the Tube Bras. I know this is the fucking highlight of your week.

SPEAKER_00 0:30

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

You you dude, Mondays. Best day ever. Even presuming it's it comes out on a Monday, obviously. People wait, right?

SPEAKER_01 0:38

Yeah, they wait for it. Is there any podcast you wait for? No, actually, no. No podcast you actively wait for. No, the only one that I like listen to, it's Joe Rogan, and then I just scroll, find something interesting while I do my work.

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Yeah, but you don't wait for Joe Rogan. Exactly. No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

A new episode of the J R E podcast. No, I don't keep up with it.

SPEAKER_02 0:58

Okay. Just want to say when I was on the train today, just a quickie.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

This is so embarrassing. This happens to me too, but I don't say anything. So the you know when the train starts accelerating and you just you get jerked forward. He got jerked forward and hit himself on a chair in front of me. Like he hit his chest and audibly, oh fuck. And he was our age, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 1:24

With glasses, he was like, oh. You gotta firm that shit, man. You gotta it's happened to me. I've like you hit my shoulder, and someone's like, are you good? Shut the fuck up! He just died, died right now. I'm cool as shit. Yeah. Oh my god. I felt so bad for him. He just walked up.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Do you have it? When you you do the thing, you know, when you just the standard, do you just like stand up straight like fucking fixture hairs? And you obviously not kill your phone. Yeah, exactly. Oh my god. Yeah, it's good as fuck. I hate that shit, man. I didn't just shit my pants.

SPEAKER_02 1:58

But imagine, imagine, instead of stumbling in just imagine fucking feigning on a train. Oh my god, I would kill myself.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

What did you say? Faint. Yeah, feigning on train. I didn't do it on a train, man. I didn't do it. It was on the train station, alright? It was the plan above the platform. It was all good. Yeah, it was all good. I just fainted.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

Okay, I have a discussion thing here. Let's talk about the best show intros of all time.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

Show intros, okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:21

Yeah. Okay, let's not do that.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

Let's not do that. Because I obviously know what you're trying to do. But do you have any of the I just want to say we haven't watched every show on Earth, obviously?

SPEAKER_01 2:32

For sure, yeah, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 2:33

So yeah, but I think intros are so they set the tone of a show.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

Let me just have a take real quick. I don't think it's much of a take. You haven't watched a lot of animes, obviously, but animes, it's like a big thing that uh uh the intro is a big thing about it. I think that's a good thing. So they they change it throughout the show. A lot of a lot of intros, a lot of like Western media, western shows have the same same intro. Like breaking breaking bad, just a quick, yeah, everyone knows.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Well, that was that was such a new thing for me. Whenever you remember when I watched it, I was like, why is it there a new fucking intro every four episodes?

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Because that's something, yeah, it's like a big thing. That's a part of the show, like something fans hype. Yeah, fans hype up the intros, and I love it. I love that they have the Was that your hot take? No, no, it's just a take. I as I said, yeah. At take, okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

Uh no, I love it too. I really enjoy it when I saw it. Yeah, it makes it better. But I think uh what was I supposed to say? Yeah, intro set the tone for the show. It like hypes you up, calm you down, whatever the show tries to take. Exactly. It puts you in the mood, kind of with try to entertain you with action, whatever. The intro sets that up.

SPEAKER_01 3:36

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

So talking about intros, do you have any any particular one first of all in your mind? I can start us out with a few before.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

Let's go with uh then we go into our favorite ones, peacemaker, season one.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

I was gonna say peacemaker, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

Number one, the first one. So Do you really do you really want to taste it? And obviously.

SPEAKER_01 4:05

It's not also that the intro is it's awesome. I love it, but it's also how they set it up all the time.

SPEAKER_02 4:14

Yo, what is that?

SPEAKER_01 4:15

It's a pananan It's so good, I love it. Yeah. Peacemaker, yeah, and they have they I think they like worked off that. They saw the uh what they uh the love they received on the first intro, and they yeah, this is our thing now. We're just gonna do that, we're gonna make a new one, it's a fucking thing. And then that brings so much I think that brings in a lot more people to the show too. It's it brings what does it bring to the show? It brings I don't know what to say. It doesn't bring another feeling to the show, it just you up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:48

But I think listen, you uh an intro, what is indicative of a good intro is when you don't skip it, obviously. Exactly, yeah. Right? So my first intro I've always liked was the Friends intro.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

Okay, yeah, I know I know it. I haven't seen Friends, but I know it yet.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

And then bam. But I was very young.

SPEAKER_01 5:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

And I was a loser. Okay, yeah. Right? Then we got we got a simple one like Breaking Bad. It's just the B B side.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

Exactly. And they keep the same one throughout the show, but it's it's fine, right? It's just it's fucking there.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

No, it's B R B A, right? The elements.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:25

And it's just yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

It's fine.

SPEAKER_02 5:28

It's simple, right?

SPEAKER_01 5:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

Then we got fucking shows like Game of Thrones. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

That makes it because they kept the same tone throughout the whole show, right? They kept the same music, but that makes it iconic. That makes it fucking cool.

SPEAKER_02 5:44

Throughout the intro, it shows you the relevant geographical spots like King's Landing, fucking uh Winterfell, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

These are the places that we're currently in. This is what's happening. Yeah, exactly. That's not that's awesome, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

So I think I feel Game of Thrones is uh is a good one. Yeah, it is. No, it's actually listen, obviously, you you know what my favorite ones are. It's clear. It's clear, but I think beyond those ones, and I get get into those ones soon. I think this is my joint. Ah no, no, it's one of my favorite ones. I can't say it's my joint favorite. Because another one you haven't watched, I'm like 90% sure or sure is succession.

SPEAKER_01 6:21

Yeah, I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_02 6:22

Succession's intro is just hard. Okay. It's just w it just exudes wealth and power.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

Wealth and power. It doesn't have to say much, it just shows you.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

Okay, alright. Sick show. Another one, it's not an intro. I just realized it right now when I was thinking about intros. Invincible never had an intro. Just oh, that's why he's yeah, exactly. It's just a title card, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:45

Neither does the boys.

SPEAKER_01 6:46

Oh, yeah, also title card, yeah. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Yeah, weird with the boys. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta think about other ones except the two Apple TV shows. Number one, Severance. You have no watch Severance. Nope. Great show. That intro is good. Yeah, genuinely. That's a good intro. That's a good intro. I think Severance is low-key, kinda, outside of anime, my favorite one.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

Okay, alright. It's a good one.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

It's a good one. Pluribus is also Apple T one. It's so simple. That's why I like it.

SPEAKER_01 7:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

Yeah. So that's a good one too. And uh go ahead, you.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

I'm gonna say my favorite intro. You can do it. Go ahead, my boy. It's not what you think. It's not the one you think.

SPEAKER_02 7:27

I don't think I didn't think it was the one I thought. Or you think I thought.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

My favorite intro, yeah. Obviously it's gonna be an anime one. Unravel from Tokyo Ghoul, the first intro.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

You showed me it.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

Yeah, I did. Yeah. Masterpiece. It's a fucking masterpiece. It's so good. Yeah, but yeah, I have nostalgia. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 7:44

I don't think it's that I don't think I just think it's good because I haven't watched it. You know, even the ones I'm about to mention, I'm I get warmed up to it.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

Exactly. Yeah. The first time you were like, uh my favorite intros ever.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

The first time I watched them, I felt nothing. Yeah. But over time, yeah. Yeah, when you listen to them, yeah. So I think even if I watch your thing here, I'm gonna fall in love with it too. But that's your favorite one.

SPEAKER_01 8:06

That's my favorite one, for sure. Top three. Top three. Not one. Number one. Fuck, I gotta see if is there any one piece intro that beats? No, there's not. There's not. Number two, the rumbling, for sure. It's gotta be. It's fucking awesome. I think does Sasagio beat take the number three? I think so. I can't think of any other one that beats it out. Maybe some fucking no, no, no one piece intros, no fucking Naruto intros, nothing like that. No, no, Sasagio's number three. Shizual Sasagio. That's that's cool.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

That those are great ones. Yeah. Obviously, I'ma say something. I have only watched one anime. Yeah. And as you said, animes are famous or or or or yeah, they emphasize their intros. So I haven't watched, I probably missed out on a lot of intros. So I've only watched Attack on Titan. And I'll tell you, I think how many intros are there? I don't know. I think every one of them bar one on its own would be my favorite intro.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

Say again.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

Every Attack on Titan intro, excluding one, would be my favorite intro on its own.

SPEAKER_01 9:19

Oh shit. Oh yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah. It's fucking Yeah, I don't know what they fucking locked in because.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

The worst Attack on Titan intro is my favorite intro compared to all other shows.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

Because it's a trend with anime intros. It's obviously the first one's gonna be a banger, then the next one maybe it's good. Then after that they just get worse and worse, right? That's the usual the usual uh pattern. Yeah. Fucking attack on Titan. Four for five, I would say. Four for five. What what's the missing one? I don't like the which one is it? It's the fucking No, it's the one I like. Yeah, I don't like it. I really like it. Yeah, it's the season three, right? Yeah. Yeah, I don't like it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

It's the season three, the end of season three one.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

It doesn't hit the spot for me. It doesn't hit the spot. It doesn't hit the spot.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

It just feels it exudes a what's about to come.

SPEAKER_01 10:08

Fucking a one that's number four, alright? Number four. My war. No, actually, I think red I like red swan more than my war.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

Red Swan? Red Swan is so good. Like a fallen age. Is it that?

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Have you listened to the whole thing on Spotify? Yeah, yeah. Have you listened to the whole song on the Spotify?

SPEAKER_02 10:26

So not the TV cut, the entire thing. No, I haven't.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

It gets better. It gets better. They add shit. It gets worse than better. It's fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

I think Red Swan is my least favorite at that time.

SPEAKER_01 10:37

Really? No, but it switches up the flow in the middle of it. It's fucking cool, man.

SPEAKER_02 10:41

Take take out Red Swan. Compare it to any other show. It's my favorite one. But out of the Attack on Titan ones, nah.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

So I'ma say my top three favorite intros are all from Attack on Titan.

SPEAKER_01 10:52

They just did it so clean, man. Number one. They just did it so fucking clean. You know the number one. First impression of Attack on Titan.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

It's perfect. It's fucking perfect.

SPEAKER_02 11:03

My favorite intro is was Shinzo Wosagio. Now it's the rumbling. I just I just yeah, it's coming. Yeah. Legit. It's coming. It's coming. It's so sick.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

It's just hard.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

You know, he was obviously I had watched the whole show and then he was watching it and he was like telling me where he was. And yeah, I was trying to. We were watching some intros back, and he was like, Yeah, okay, maybe we should watch. I don't know if I uh was talking like oh we should watch the intros, but then I just looked at the last one. Yeah, the rumbling.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

Yeah. It's coming rumbling. Yeah, maybe not.

SPEAKER_02 11:39

You told me when you were like, okay, listen, the new entry intro for season four is gonna come. Don't listen. Don't interpret the sound. Just watch, okay? Rumbling!

SPEAKER_00 11:50

Rumbling! Oh yeah. So what's about to happen? Yeah, what's gonna happen? Yeah, sure. What an intro, dude.

SPEAKER_01 11:56

It is, it's fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Dude, I will never look away.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

It's all good. And that's you said you never you didn't like rock music, right? It's it's rock. Depends. Yeah, it's good. It's fucking good rock, too. It's fucking awesome. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

It's amazing. So number one, the rumbling. Number two, Shinzo Wosusagio, the season two intro. God damn, it was good. Oh my god. Number three, oh, it's either my war or the ending of season three, one. God. My war. Then the season three one. Dude, my war goes crazy. And it's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

You know, yeah, you know when you switch between the seasons and you switch to the case. What the fuck am I? What the fuck is this? Yeah. This is not attacking.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

But if I can throw in an outro, the season four outro of the attack on Titan would be my number one.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

Yeah, that was so good too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

When he just walks around as a kid in the cage, becomes an adult, just disappears at the end. Remember when he disappeared? I was like, oh, he's gonna die. Oh yeah. As soon as I saw it. Yeah. He gonna die. Damn, dude, what outro, man. Holy fuck, dude. I thought I got on Titan. Not only the intros, the the the the the the music in the show. Well, what the fuck is it called?

SPEAKER_01 13:14

O OST? Yeah. Yeah, OST. No, that's my favorite type of music. The most the I I never barely add any intros to like playlists or something. OSTs. I live for that shit. I live for a good OST in a fucking anime show, whatever. It's just when the music hits and matches the tempo of the fucking show, it's oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 13:36

Yeah, because dude, the the rumbling hypes you up for what's about to come.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

Every intro in Attack on Titan just hypes you up. Again, I got a glaze attack on Titan. I think the best OST moment I've ever seen. UC Big Girl. Reiner Reveal. You see Big Girl. It's so you know how many times I've re-watched that fucking scene. Have you rewatched the scene? Anything? No. I've rewatched it. You wanna rewatch it afterwards? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's fucking it's so good. It's so fucking good. Yeah. Okay. You don't know you're not thinking about my god. You can't think of any else. Anyone oh my god. I'm out of it today. I'm out of it. Yeah, I've been fucking I've been I've been struggling this week. No one listens to this shit either way. Yeah, I guess. You can say whatever you want. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I've been struggling this week. And that's what I I wanted to get in on that actually. If you're done. If you can't think of anything else.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

No, no, you can go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 14:35

Yeah. So we spoke about you you took up like a big thing where it is brought up. Yeah, small correct English.

SPEAKER_02 14:42

Say brought up.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

Yeah, brought up. Brought up.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Now wrap a song. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

Yeah, sure. Uh you brought up that small inconveniences for sure can break a man. Small inconvenience can fuck you up.

SPEAKER_00 15:00

Depending on the context of the day. The minor listen, you it could be the line between life and death. You could kill yourself.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

Yeah, no, I think the most sane person could actually.

SPEAKER_00 15:09

We just reacted to a guy throwing uh shit from a rooftop at the police. That he probably just stopped his home.

SPEAKER_01 15:15

Yeah, and I don't know, you yeah, you don't watch Bill Burr, right? You haven't watched his shit. But he actually brought up a good point. He when you're driving a car, right? Right here, you're just Bill. You're just 95 and nothing going on. He's the biggest, the biggest mass killing in the city. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

Yeah, that's true. So, yeah, holding holding the steering wheel. Yep. Slightly turning it. Biggest mass murderer ever. For sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

So easy. It's the yeah, it's so easy to just lose your shit.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

Oh, this is gonna look bad if I become a mass murderer. Oh, these are my origins.

SPEAKER_01 15:51

And I I would ask you to bring up, you brought up a prime example what happened to you, right? That's like the day today it fucks you up when you went uh grocery shopping, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:04

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

That's like the that's a prime example. I'm gonna get into my example, but just yeah, set the tone.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

Listen, it doesn't get worse than this. I've had a long ass day, a hundred things to do, overstimulate it. I gotta go shop, grocery shopping, because my fridge is empty, right? Yeah. Go buy my shit two large bags, right? Paper bags. Paper bags. Fucking paper bags because we care about the fucking environment, right? I hold them, and the fucking the fucking the thing you grip breaks.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

Horrible. Horrid. Horrid scenario. In the store, right? You're you're just walking out.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

I walked out, walking home, it breaks. A woman comes up. Do you need to back up? Back the f- Back up!

SPEAKER_01 16:48

Oh I will use leaf of force! Yeah, you know, yeah, I need my space. I need my fucking space! I need space. Can you back up? Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

And the thing is I had to do like fucking engineering work to make it work.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

It's like, yeah, get the fuck out of here. I don't need your hand. And you know, on the on the way back home, you know it's like a a minute walk. I was praying to God, please don't please please let it just hold. Please, please, please. The worst thing I can imagine is not that the ha the hand area, the thing you grip breaks, but like the bag combusts and all your groceries fall out.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:21

What the f what we we live alone? Yeah. What are we supposed to do? We can't leave leave our groceries. No, we can't.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

Because someone's gonna Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You you just gotta fucking it's fucking horrible. Yeah. Plastic. Fucking go with plastic. It's worth it.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

But that's also kind of shitty because if it's too much, it would bear too much and it would pop too.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

So you do something better.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Please, I need something else. Yeah. So similar thing happened to me, right? Like uh oh pretty much similar. I don't know if you noticed. A couple of days ago this was a rainstorm. Oh I think it was all over Sweden. In Stockholm it was bad. You know, you can you can hear the wind like smashing against the window. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

It was thundering too.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

Yeah. Yeah. So I'm for some context, I'm moving apartments right now. So I'm moving my stuff. I thought, okay, I'm gonna move it in the weekend. So I'm just gonna quickly grab a couple of stuff during the week after work. Just uh get it over. I take the train to my new place and I just halch it over one thing at a time, just so I can get as much done until the weekend when the actual move is. When you get clothes, you put them in a big fog, you know the black garbage bags, right? Big ones. So I get what uh I get two of those over the shoulder, take a suitcase, fill it with more clothes, and then one bag over my head. You know how fucking heavy that is. When you have you have you don't have free hands. I'm already getting angry. You don't have any free hands. I don't know why I decided to wear a jacket. I thought it was. Yeah, yeah, but it was raining outside too. But you know when you're just you get overstimulated, just existing, so you just get hot. Yeah. You just get sweaty by doing the least amount of movements. Anyways, yeah. I go down, I get I go out in the rain, right? Get to this train station, and you know when you gotta you gotta get through the doors and everything, I got two fucking bags over my thing, oh my god. Looking like a homeless person, for real. Like I ha like I have all my things on me. I get down to the train, obviously, it's the most packed rush hour of all rush hours. Because of course, because of course, I have literally all my clothes on my fucking on my body right now. All of them. So get on the train, fucking squished in, can't even sit down anywhere. I just gotta go two stations. It's fine, whatever. Get out, go down the station, and I just feel, you know, when you you feel a shift, you feel something shifting. Yeah, no. Yeah, it's like it's slipping somehow, but I'm I got grip, but it's slipping back. What the fuck? Okay, just throw it over. I get out of the train station when you come up from the train.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

And you faint. No, my boy fainted.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, before. Yeah, but I get up, I get up with the walls. Uh right to die and not. I get up to an open space, yeah, big ass wind fucking just punches me in the face. You don't think it's just a big part? No, it's just plastic bag rips all my clothes.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

Nah.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

All my clothes, it's raining. I know that's raining, yeah. It's fucking raining. My god, you don't understand. Oh just with fire. No, you know when I stood there, you know people are walking out through the train too. They just saw that shit. I'm holding the fucking handle of the plastic bag here. You know the have you seen the poster for Shawshank Redemption?

SPEAKER_02 20:47

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:50

You know, I just let out the biggest, the most valid f I've ever learned. You did that. No, no, I was legit screen. Did anyone be like, was anyone like no, I no perception of what's happening around me. I just let it out because I've I was already, you know how frustrated you are on the train when it's packed and you got fucking shit on you. Yeah, you genuinely, you're boiling, right?

SPEAKER_02 21:12

You know, you know, when I get that mad, I just walk off. I I genuinely think I will just leave my clothes for like 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

Yeah, no, I I was genuinely like, I don't need this. I don't I don't fucking need this. I I got other clothes, I'll buy new ones. You know, I was just genuinely, but then I was like, oh, but that's a nice shot.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

But you know, I know myself at the ripping point, I will just stand still.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Yeah, exactly. No, I legit felt the thing stop and I I was literally standing like this, just yeah, waiting for you, yeah. And then let loose, yeah. Holy fuck, and then I gotta get down. Fucking get you know when you get the bag, it's ripped, so you gotta like fucking Oh my god. So you gotta do the best of the fucking bag. I gotta fucking hold it like this, put it on my suitcase and like waddle back to the fucking new apartment.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

Get the And then your your your thoughts. Start fucking moving like I work tomorrow at my podcast.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

Everyone hates me, I'ma kill myself. Yeah, no, I was literally I just sat down. You know when you get when you just need to calm down. I get in, I just throw the shit on the floor, everything off. No, I need space. I need fucking space. I'm alone right now, but I need space. Just sit sit down on the couch and just you know when you stare into the wall for like 10 minutes, just accepting debriefing what just happened. Yeah, that that was me out there. It that just happened to me. But you know, the debriefing is like it's just why. Yeah, exactly. Why me? Yeah, why? Why it's so unnecessary. But what's the point? Yeah. Well, how what why? So fucking infuriating. Oh my god. Why is this part of God's plan? Exactly, yeah. What reason does this mean? You just start questioning shit. Yeah. Yeah, that was my I think that might be my I don't know if it's my only public freak out. Because it was a fucking freak out. I I you've never had you've never had you. I don't th I can't remember if I've had like a freak out where I'm screaming in public. No, no, no. When I was at and I genuinely like screamed like a lunatic.

SPEAKER_02 23:13

With isolated panic, I mean it's just you being mad at something, not someone. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

No, but you've had arguments with people in public.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, but isolated anger, that's all the time, yeah, for sure. But like genuinely just screaming in public for for it obviously I had a reason, but for no reason, right? You don't know what you know what I mean. Like just freaking out. Yeah. I would freak out too. Never never happened to me before, but it felt it's a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

But so much would intrude my mind. There's so many people around me. I mean, did you what do you legit?

SPEAKER_01 23:49

But you know when you I don't know if you other uh you know when you're really mad and you just let it out, you just scream, it feels so good though. Afterwards, it feels so good.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

I talked about this with one of my aunts. She was I was like, she was like, some no, I said sometimes it's just nice to be mad.

SPEAKER_01 24:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:05

Like you just wanna be mad. Yeah. You just want to be mad.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

You gotta you gotta let something out.

SPEAKER_02 24:09

You have you just wanna have something to be mad at.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

Yeah. It's normal. Yeah, because you need yeah, you can't just ball everything up. It's then you're gonna have a real freak out.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

So sometimes that's why you sometimes explode that minoring convenience. That this is not not a minor intervenus. That was a annoying as well. Yeah. But yeah, you just gotta let the anger out sometimes. But how do you let your anger out usually? Just screaming?

SPEAKER_01 24:33

No, I don't I don't think I I don't think I let my anger out like I get mad when I get mad and then I let it out. I don't ball it up. I don't never ball it up. You know when I'm the one time like day to day I get really mad. It's just it's for no reason. It's just when I'm on my bike going to work. Oh, this guy is a bit slow. It's like an old guy. He's just he's just having a nice day.

SPEAKER_02 24:55

Yeah, it's just cycling.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

But you know when I get illogically, illogically my mad, I just dismiss it.

SPEAKER_02 25:00

I don't I don't listen for my anger.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

For me, I gotta be like, I gotta let it out, like you slow piece of shit. Like in my head, like you fucking bitch. Yeah, come on, come on, go, go. But I then I then I calm down because I let it out in my mind. I like freaked out in my mind, I let it go.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

For me, what calms me down is just logic. Why am I there's no reason?

SPEAKER_01 25:18

Sometimes I do that. For me that way, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:20

But you know, I have a very short temperament, very, very short. So when I do things, just normal things, I have to consciously like hold myself together, yeah, not to explode. So sometimes I can just do something because everything's going on in your mind, right? And I don't know, I just freeze. I look I just freeze for like two minutes.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Because it's yeah, it's a rumbling, it's legit, I'm vibrating.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

Yeah, it's like like what you said when you had a long day, you're overstimulated, and your fucking jacket just gets stuck on the code high on the fucking door handle two times.

SPEAKER_00 25:53

You stop fucking the door. Remember what you said back in the day. Yeah, you're like, oh imagine you get mad, you just do the microjacks.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

But do you ever sometimes I do the it's yeah, it's the corny shit to do, but uh you know the you just get mad. Sometimes you gotta fuck it. Oh just calm down.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

Just I've done that. You know the legit I just ignore what I just did. Fully ignore it.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

Fuck that shit. No man, fucking small inconvenience. Yeah, could could be the pain, could be the deciding factor if I'm a murderer or not. Yeah, could be if I commit genocide. You know, genuinely, if somebody came up to I'm so glad nobody did. When I dropped my bag, if someone came, oh, oh, that looks so oh that looks bad. Oh for real, yeah, honestly. Honestly, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna beat your ass. Yeah, it's your fault.

SPEAKER_02 26:56

It's an old woman. Yeah, stop being kind, man.

SPEAKER_01 26:59

Yeah, my god.

SPEAKER_02 27:00

Yeah, do shit like that. But it's uh inevitable part of life, man. What about you? You just gotta learn to handle it. Yeah, exactly. But you don't want to handle it, you just wanna get back. That's it. You good? Yeah, dude. I just want to talk about money. Okay. You know, at the end of the month, you're sitting there on the calculator, obviously, 1000 plus 500 plus 200, that's and you start subtracting. Minus 800 rent. Minus 200 loans, minus 100 groceries. Yeah. And then you're like, please, can I can I just have a bit more than last month? So I can just have it a bit. Always the same result. Always the same. It's always the same result. I dream of a day. This is this is my Roman dream. I dream of a day where I need not calculation. Oh yeah. Oh my god. Where I can just Yeah, just live.

SPEAKER_01 27:49

Just live.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

Just live. Just take the money from my account. I still can do whatever. Do the calculation, you do it, obviously. Oh yeah. It's the worst thing ever because you're always disappointed.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

No, when you're not you're like, you don't want to spoil the rest of the rest of the results. You're like hopeful. You're like, okay, let's just wait. Yeah, that's okay. Let's just wait on subtracting rent. Yeah, maybe rent will be lower, lower this month. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 28:11

Yeah, because he said he he he he said he liked my turn.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

Yeah, you rationalize it. Yeah, just oh, but I actually bought a lot more frozen food last month, so maybe like there's some over yeah, no, yeah, yeah, it two fucking two buckets of cave seed.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

Yeah, but the best thing is when you unexpectedly unexpectedly for no reason, you just have a bit more money.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

Yeah, you know when you have uh extra extra yeah fifty dollars, like I'm living. I'm fucking living, yeah. But then you go and blow that shit right away. A hundred percent.

SPEAKER_02 28:43

You just go to the cinema. One day of cinema, dude. By the way, food twenty dollars nowadays, twenty dollars, ticket fifteen dollars, snacks ten dollars, twenty-five, forty-five dollars. Yeah, essentially fifty.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

For one day out, and sometimes sometimes the tickets, sometimes the tickets like more, I know essentially, but also not include including train tickets, which is money too.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

Yeah, so fifty dollars just for one day out.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Yeah, and you uh you it's what is it two, three hours? Okay, it's it's a pretty good deal still. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. You get food, you get food entertainment and an experience for three hours for $50. It's kind of fair.

SPEAKER_02 29:24

But thinking of it, comparing it to a ticket to Poland for $50.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

Yeah, for sure. I get what you mean.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

But I also see what you're saying. It's true, you get a whole lifetime for a day.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

Like, yeah, I yeah, as we said before, yeah, you don't go out drinking, but waking up after a day of drinking, because you don't you don't fucking you don't do the calculations when you're drunk. You just oh yeah, another one. Yeah another one. Oh, you want one? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

But don't you sometimes exc excluding you know drinking and whatnot, don't you just let me just have fun for the day? Let me just buy McDonald's for $30 and cut deal with the consequences, tomorrow, fuck tomorrow. If then tomorrow comes.

SPEAKER_01 30:00

Oh yeah, no, I don't have to pay for this. Tomorrow me's gotta pay for this shit, yeah. Fuck legit. Yep, but it's the worst.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

Another aspect on the money thingy, do you ever come up with new ways to save money so that you save money to a significant degree? So, example, I bought something on uh on uh with loans, right? I paid off it, now I get an extra $50 a month. So that's not being smart, but you just yeah, exactly. Then I obviously have a whoop, right? It's uh it's a fitness tracker, it costs $40 a month. Holy fuck.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

Holy fuck. Yes, we s we've been speaking about this. Subscriptions, my god, they're killing us, man.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

And it's because I committed to a plan early, which I regret obviously, but forty dollars a month, $30 a month, sorry, $30 a month, fucking crazy, and it's and it's forever. It's not you. So if I stop subscribing, this is just a brick.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Oh yeah, exactly. You can't use it.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

So Google came out with a Fitbit. Yeah, Google came out with a Fitbit, you just pay $100, flat fee, get the Fitbit, no subscription either. Oh my god. You can have it as an add-on, but you get all the functionalities you need.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

I think I think it's probably gonna be like, yeah, they do that to rake in a lot of the market, yes, and that then they can change it to the state.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Well, let's presume it stays as it is. Calculation. I buy I buy the watch, I go minus a hundred dollars, but I then it's plus thirty dollars first month, plus thirty dollars second month, plus and it compounds. I win thirty dollars a month.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

I win, so now I'm up what the loan is gone fifty dollars, yeah. 30, 80 dollars. I have now extra 80 dollars, yeah, an extra 80 dollars, and she goes, Well, you just gotta be smart sometimes. Yeah, what the fuck am I supposed to pay for $40?

SPEAKER_01 31:50

Fucking the thing, I'm I hate this about myself. I forget about my subscriptions, like for dumb shit. You know, Fortnite. I subscribed for a fucking us, I don't know what to get some V-Bucks crew. Yeah, I wanted to buy like a cool skin. Oh, I if I join the crew, I get this much money.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

By the way, his definition of a cool skin is Shaquille.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

Exactly, yeah. Need that shit.

SPEAKER_00 32:14

But uh and I was like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Okay, I can either pay the crew for fucking eight dollars or pay whatever for a little bit more for V-Bucks. Okay, I'm just doing the crew, forget about it. It's been going for four months.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

Well, I'm gonna be honest, I don't forget about shit.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

Yeah, I forget about shit. I know you, I know you forget about shit. Then I just like hop in hop on Fortnite with somebody like, oh yeah, let's just hop on Fortnite, see what's up, see what's new. It fucking explodes with like, oh yeah, you've unlocked the fucking You unlock God. Fuck that's like that's that's like five KCs of fucking Fortnite skins. Fuck Oh my god, I yeah, I hate being forgetful. And also like World of Warcraft subscription. I it's only games, I'm gonna be honest, it's only game subscriptions. Like, I haven't played World of Warcraft in fucking w one and a half years, maybe two years. Yeah, it's just there. It's just fucking taking every month, every month, taking fucking money out of my account.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

But goddamn, do these fucking subscriptions accumulate? Like you think you get one, you're like that's fine, but then you get another, and then you get another, and then you get another. I I don't know, it's two hundred dollars on the.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

It's disgusting when you actually do the calculation how much you're spending on something for like a year right now. Obviously, all of it for the editing and uh like the so Capcat Pro? Yeah, Capcat Pro. The Spotify Premium Crunchyroll. Half of YouTube Premium. Yep, half of YouTube Premium.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

Well the Warcraft.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

No, I can't, yeah, cancelled it. Uh fuck, I know I have more of them. What's some but what's some common ones that you need? I don't have streaming services. That's the one I'm saving on. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 34:02

I can do mine, you can maybe kick out some of mine.

SPEAKER_01 34:05

I think that might be it.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

Yeah. So I got Netflix. You didn't list prices, but short. Oh yeah. I got I got Netflix the the premium version. But I don't know why, dude. I'm gonna be honest. $20, Whoop, $30.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

What do you get with the sorry, the premium word? Like fucking 4k.

SPEAKER_02 34:20

Who cares, man? Yeah. So uh again, Netflix $20, Whoop $30, Spotify Premium $12.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:27

You need Spotify Premium, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

That's the one I'm I'm never never ending. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

So Spotify Premium, Buzz Sprout to pr uh uh publish our podcast, VPN, uh that's five, half of YouTube Premium review, six. Am I forgetting something? Gym membership.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

Oh yeah. Seven. Yeah, I ended mine. But no, because I went away.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

Um I think I have more.

SPEAKER_01 34:55

Yeah, you see, you for you fucking forget, you forget, and then you go into your bank and it's like it doesn't tell you. It doesn't like tell you.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

But okay, I also got a lot of like tiny ones for like 0.5 dollars. Yeah, like storage on fucking Google Drive. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

That doesn't like counting, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

But then yeah, but that's 0.5 dollars a month, oh boy.

SPEAKER_01 35:15

Yeah, it's insignificant. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

No, but I think that's essentially it. But it you you see, we can't even remember everything, you just forget.

SPEAKER_01 35:23

It's kind of true. Because everything's gonna fucking need everything's gonna need a fucking subscription service. That's the thing.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

You better believe we're gonna set up Patreon with a subscription service. Listen, we may hate on the uh hate on the uh business plan, business model, but we're gonna use it when we can. Need that shit 100%. Gonna need that. It's a very good system, it gives you passive income. Obviously, yeah. I 100% get why companies do it. But you as a consumer hate it. But you as a as a company, as the seller. Hey, fuck them. Fuck them.

SPEAKER_01 35:55

Yeah. Hate it. Actually, yeah. Are you are you done with the can you think of anything else like subscription-wise? What do you have?

SPEAKER_02 36:02

No, you can go ahead, my way.

SPEAKER_01 36:03

Because I was thinking about the podcast. Obviously, we're kind of famous right now. 23 subscribers, yeah, like it's it's a big following, right? We're kind of kind of on here, right? Doing our doing our thing, right? I thought about it, like you said before, like we talked about what's the most optimal level if if we ever get there. Like if we ever doesn't look right. The optimal what's the optimal level of fame?

SPEAKER_02 36:30

100k.

SPEAKER_01 36:31

100k? Between 50 and 100. Because I was thinking about it, we we took KSI as an example, but think about like Mr. Beast. He has channels that in every language no, not every language, but yeah, a lot a lot of major languages. So wherever he is in the world, he's gonna be recognized. He could go to fucking North Sentinel Island, and those they will fucking know, oh Mr. Beast, Mr. Beast. Everybody knows him wherever you go. Yeah, wherever he goes, his fucking is gonna get recognized. My god. Listen, you can never get recognized.

SPEAKER_02 37:07

It's very arrogant to say this, but the only downside of starting social media and getting traction is becoming somewhat recognizable, right? Yeah. So if we someday have like 50k, I'm gonna be paranoid.

SPEAKER_01 37:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

Even at 50k is nothing compared to others. I'll be so paranoid.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

Is he?

SPEAKER_01 37:30

Oh yeah, exactly. Yeah. Because yeah, I also thought about that, like, obviously, Mr. B, yeah, he can never go outside without some sort of security, right? But like I was I thought, like, oh yeah, being a faceless, like uh, you know, HO Delirious, like nobody knows who he is.

SPEAKER_02 37:45

Everyone everyone tries to expose you.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

Exactly, yeah, but still, nobody knows you can still go outside and everything, you can still do whatever. Yeah, but I think it still would be nice, like you said, 100k, because you then you get the recognition, you like people pull up to you in public, oh I fuck with George. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Clout and like, I don't know, and an image. I bet it I bet it fucking feels nice when like imagine like a kid come up, comes up to you and like imagine I want to take a picture with you.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

Imagine where you're out with your fam. Yeah, and someone comes out come up to you. No, no, this is cool, this is cool. I mean, you're like, oh my god, bro number two, this will never happen. Oh my god, bro, number two. You in front of you, you're like, yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, you get so much easy, you get inflated ego.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

Exactly, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

And that's cool, right? Yeah, but then it gets too much to a point, right? Yeah, and people are crazy about it.

SPEAKER_01 38:31

Oh my god, yeah. Like uh, I think I think the uh limit goes at a million.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

I think a million I think a million is too much.

SPEAKER_01 38:40

Yeah, no, I'm saying when you get to a million, that's when it's fucking oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

Maybe dude. Yeah, maybe dude. Because a million people shits and gigs have two million. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

Yeah, but exactly. They have two million subscribers. I'm not subscribed, I know who they are. If I saw them in public, I would fucking ask for a picture, probably. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:00

You would?

SPEAKER_01 39:01

Yeah, probably, yeah. I'm like, I'm not gonna fucking yeah. I probably at least talk to them. At least fucking go up to them and be like, yo, that's James. Yeah, that's James.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

You would?

SPEAKER_01 39:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:12

I don't think I would. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

Would you just be like, oh, we've talked about this before.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

I think we've talked about famous people. Yeah. I don't think I'd it's there's like two people I'd ever go up to. Okay. But do you know my reason? Why? I don't want to inflate their ego. Yeah, but they don't care. I know. They're they already have the biggest ego. But I'm like, you're from my point of view, you're just a human. You you argue cool. If I talk to you, what significance does our our conversation have to anything?

SPEAKER_01 39:39

No, nothing really. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

I'm just annoying you.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

Yeah, for me, it's just yeah, I met I met uh shits and gigs, for example. Yeah, it's just a conversation pizza for the future. Yeah, I met them.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

I'm just annoying you. Yeah, if I see The Rock, I have no affiliation to you. I you I've just watched your movies.

SPEAKER_01 39:53

I think don't you think it would be kind of cool to like speak to someone famous, like see how they are in real life? Like you speak to them.

SPEAKER_02 39:59

But no, but it's it's kind of it's okay, bro number two. You got two million subscribers, someone's like, oh brother broad number two. What do you think about yeah?

SPEAKER_01 40:07

No, no, no, I'm not meaning like that, right? Yeah, I'm just having a casual conversation. Like what you're doing today. No, but it just as uh oh, what's the word in English? As surface level as it gets, right? Yo, he's not, he's a dick, he's fucking weird, like just that. Just first impression, what I think about this person. Yeah, but uh my friends, for example, met a Swedish YouTuber. I don't watch him. I know who he is, but they met him, and he's they were like, Yeah, he's a fucking dick, he's a fucking asshole. Okay, he made he makes children c children's content, right? Like, yeah, we fucking hate him. Yeah, he was a fucking prick when we met him. Damn, okay, yeah, I kinda wanna meet him now. I kinda wanna test that shit out. I wanna I wanna see.

SPEAKER_02 40:50

Well I'm so like not a uh like I don't know. I don't I don't get drawn by uh wanting to meet people that much. Uh it's just a few people like uh say if I'm say if I study academics, I'm like I go into fucking research in whatever. Yeah. If I if I say no uh big researcher is having uh like a seminar, I'd go to it and try to talk to them because I we share a common interest. I wanna know, like I I genuinely am fond of your work, right?

SPEAKER_01 41:18

Exactly, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:19

I'm a fan of your work. Uh outside of that, like F1, I love F1, I binge F1. I I would not disturb it. I would just ask for a pick or autograph and then because that's why I'm here. Yeah, we're not gonna be friends.

SPEAKER_01 41:30

We're not you're you don't care about what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

Just I know, I know, but I'm not telling you, I'm telling people. Yeah, you're never gonna be friends with them. They don't give a sh sh listen, they care about your support, but they're not you're not bros. No, exactly. Uh we both know why I'm here. Sign it, thank you. I'm a big fan. That's it. That was legit the thing with Obi-Wan. He tried to make conversation because I'm I'm bro number one.

SPEAKER_01 41:51

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:52

No, he tried to make conversation because he probably has to he just wants to talk.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

You paid also, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:59

And I'm gonna be honest, I don't wanna feel I don't wanna call him out. He's a good dude. Yeah, but I think uh celebrities in general have a very big incentive to be kind because if they're not, their whole career can be gone from one from one type one report, right? Oh, yeah, sure. So he he wants to be kind so that just he good. So I but I know he was uninterested, obviously. But he's a good dude, genuinely. So I just walk, I'm like, oh yeah, so just sign it there. Yeah, I just I just want to honor the guardian.

SPEAKER_01 42:24

I like Obi-Wan, I don't gotta talk to you. Man, you brought up a point that I think think about a lot when I watch like certain certain influences, right? When they bring up uh the parasocial people they have to deal with, that's fucking weird, man. Like some people, because they watch somebody, all of their free time they spend watching somebody, they watch countless hours hours of them, they feel like they know somebody just from a screen. And then they yeah, they send messages. If it's a live streamer, for example, they send messages trying to be friends with someone. Like if you're if you're on fucking yeah, on our level, to be honest, and you're just supporting, having a conversation, it's fine, right? It's fine, who cares? But if you're trying to get like someone that has 10 million subscribers, what are we doing? What are we doing, man? They don't care about you, they're not your friend, they don't know you. Not because they're bad people, but it makes sense. It makes sense, they don't know you. They don't know you. Yeah, would you if somebody just came up to you, would you be their best friend? No.

SPEAKER_02 43:22

And especially when you're famous, because you know everyone tries to take advantage of it. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 43:25

That makes it even harder. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

Either way, I don't go up to people. If if I someday become somewhat recognizable, I don't mind it as long as you're responsible, right? Exactly, yeah. Yeah. Either way, I want to talk about uh controversy, new controversy you probably haven't heard about it because you're in you're not in that sphere, because you're a loser. So Ferrari introduced a new Ferrari. It's called the Ferrari Luce or Luce, I don't know how to pronounce it. But it's very controversial because people think it deviates from. What Ferrari is supposed to be.

SPEAKER_01 44:02

Okay. Oh, I think I have heard about it actually. Is it the I'll I'll go through it.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

So you've probably heard about it. It's a new all-electric Ferrari car, a family luxury car. Yeah. 100% electric. People don't like this because Ferrari is very much associated with engines like fucking DAs, V12s. That's a Ferrari. That's a Ferrari. So people, I I think people have the consensus that, dude, what's Ferrari doing? They're just trying to hop on trends instead of being exclusive and being Ferrari.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:34

On that note, I think it makes sense because it's business. We hop on trends, we know what people like, we sell more cars.

SPEAKER_01 44:40

Yeah. Yeah, if we can.

SPEAKER_02 44:42

But that was their that was their point of view, but now it's obviously fall falling flat on electricity.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

The view from them is if we make an electric car, are we gonna lose money or make money? We make money. We make money.

SPEAKER_02 44:52

But the thing is our reputation can get a hit, and thereby in the long run, people are not as inclined to buy cars.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

But I'm I'm curious about your opinion on it.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

But we'll continue. There's there's mentioning so it's the engine people very much associate Ferrari with as everyone does, right? Ferrari is their shit. Yeah. Then it deviates from the traditional Ferrari design of be looking angry, looking aggressive. You know, Ferrari cars, they look angry. They're so cool, but that's like all sports cars, right?

SPEAKER_01 45:22

Yeah, they look aggressive, and that's what Ferrari has the Ferrari style. They look fucking angry, right? They have the Ferrari style, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:28

So it's a very minimalistic design. You know how trendy minimalism is, and the designer is uh a dude called, I think, wait, Johnny Ive, and he's an Apple designer. Okay, and you know how Apple is minimalistic and it works for them, but he's tried to transition that to a Ferrari where integrated design is actually the most important thing, and minimalism isn't what you want, right? Yeah, because if it just looks like a fridge, why am I buying a Ferrari? Yeah, I'm buying a Ferrari for the fucking shape, the curve, for the state of the fucking airflow of it, my god engine. So people are disliking this and just essentially saying, not the engine, not looking like a Ferrari, they're just hopping on trends to make money. That argument I don't agree with because uh everyone tries to make money, so that's just a silly argument.

SPEAKER_01 46:16

If you were the CEO, you would also do that.

SPEAKER_02 46:19

But the thing about deviating from what a Ferrari is and losing their identity, I kind of agree with because it genuinely looks have you seen a pole star?

SPEAKER_01 46:27

A pole star? I I recognize what it's it's a describe it.

SPEAKER_02 46:32

It's just it just looks like a futuristic, no details, no, you know minimalism, it's just minimalistic. It's a minimalistic electric car, like a like similar to a Tesla, right? And Ferrari's hopping on this trend, obviously. Oh man, yeah. And Ferrari, I'm gonna be honest, it doesn't sue Ferrari. No, Ferrari, go electric, right? Go electric makes sense because even if you don't go electric, people are probably gonna hate on you because because you use fuel, you use fossil fuels, and that's oh yeah, obviously hurting the environment. So people's gonna hate either way, but keep the design, right? So it doesn't look like a Ferrari, it doesn't exude exactly.

SPEAKER_01 47:07

If you just make it look like a Ferrari, then it's probably fine. Yeah, I mean I haven't seen it. I wanted to bring it up.

SPEAKER_02 47:13

It doesn't, it doesn't, when you look at it, you don't think you don't think Ferrari And that's a problem.

SPEAKER_01 47:19

And that's a problem if you buy a Ferrari, you want you want you want it to be known, you got a Rari. You gotta fucking oh my that's a status symbol. Let me see.

SPEAKER_02 47:29

Let me just give me a second. I'm sorry. I'm sorry people.

SPEAKER_01 47:33

Okay, yeah, I don't think yeah, people hating on the company if you want to make money, that's that yeah, that doesn't make sense at all. But I get people hating on the design choice if it's that bad. If it's like a fucking you can't.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

Look away, look away, look away, look away, look away, I'm gonna kill you.

SPEAKER_01 47:50

I don't know why you're right sure.

SPEAKER_02 47:55

I'ma pop a picture up on the on the thingy.

SPEAKER_01 48:01

But dude, wow. Oh yeah, it's fucking it's ads, people. It's ads.

SPEAKER_02 48:05

Dude, oh my god, just show me the fucking car, man. Oh, they they play an ad. Okay, they're gonna be a good one. They play a whole ass ad on the weapon, dude. What? Dude, the ad revolution is it. What? It's still here.

SPEAKER_01 48:18

Like, do you gotta do you gotta? Yeah, there we go. Oh nah, yeah, nah, yeah nah. What the fuck? Why is it round? It's so round.

SPEAKER_02 48:25

It it has no details.

SPEAKER_01 48:26

Yeah, it's exactly it that has no details.

SPEAKER_02 48:28

This is not a Ferrari.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

No, you know, if you pulled up to me, I didn't know you, you were like, yeah, I gotta retain it. Read this, read this in English. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

600k for it dollars.

SPEAKER_01 48:38

Oh my god. You know, if you pulled up to me, I didn't know you, right? First impression, like, yeah, I got a Rari. Oh shit, for real. Which one? Show me.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

Yeah, I that's not a Rari, man. I'm sorry, that's not a fucking Rari. My opinion is this.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

I just want to get it out there. It deviates from what a Ferrari is supposed to be. It's supposed to be elegance personified in a car. It's supposed to be aggressive in a car.

SPEAKER_01 49:05

A status symbol.

SPEAKER_02 49:06

It's supposed to be a race car. Exactly. A work of aerodynamic genius.

SPEAKER_01 49:11

Fucking sports car. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

It's supposed to look like a jet fighter jet, right?

SPEAKER_01 49:17

Literally the symbol for sports cars. Like the fucking yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:20

I get Ferrari trying to make SUVs because it's and electric cars. Yeah. Make it in the Ferrari design. Yeah, man. Come on.

SPEAKER_01 49:27

Just I don't think I don't think it's impossible at all. I think it's very dual. The electric argument make it cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:34

The electric argument, going all electric, dude, everyone's going to transition.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

Eventually.

SPEAKER_02 49:40

Yeah. The making money and following trends, I can't hate on because it's a company that tries to make profit. But losing your identity and what Ferrari is supposed to be through design, I can't stand with that. I look at this and and no part of me thinks I'm looking at a Ferrari.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

You know, that's a sad thing with like the minimalistic uh revolution right now. Everything, you know, when they change Pringles. Why? Why? You're you're all you're hot take. You're already like the most recognizable, one of the most recognizable chips brands in the world. Just have it be have your character, have your originality. You don't need to simplify everything.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

My hot take is I fuck with minimalism when it's applied correctly.

SPEAKER_01 50:23

Correctly.

SPEAKER_02 50:24

Apple, kings of minimalism. Exactly. I love their seamless smooth designs. Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 50:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:31

But other people or other companies, there's no need.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

Yeah, like Ferrari. Don't lose your character. Don't lose your identity. Your identity, exactly. Just because you want. Does it make break? Does it actually bring in more sales when it's minimalistic? When I go to buy a car no, when I go to buy a car, I want it to look sleek and nice. Maybe if I'm going to buy a fucking Ferrari, if I'm buying a sports car, I need it to stack.

SPEAKER_02 50:55

I have to acknowledge this. There can be so there's probably a lot of variables I'm missing out on. Maybe the design is better for airflow somehow. Maybe it's better for downforce and whatever whatever they need. I I'm just not factoring that in. All I'm going off of is how it looks. Yeah. And what I associate. What is what look looks-wise I associate with a Ferrari.

SPEAKER_01 51:16

Uh do you know what it's supposed to be applied for? Is it an SUV? It's an SUV family car. A family car, okay. Yeah. So I get they going to luxury family car. Exactly. They're not going the sports car route for it with the design and everything. But I think it's just it's just too it's not Ferrari, man. It's just not Ferrari.

SPEAKER_02 51:34

Either way, I hope they I hope they don't keep this up. I hope they stick to who they are because their cars are beautiful. One dud doesn't define a company. You can always say, listen to me, Ferrari. Bro one has spoken. No, but that's the episode, right? Yeah. We're hungry as shit. Oh, yes. We're gonna go eat. Been a long week. Been a long day, even, right?

SPEAKER_01 51:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:00

So, as always, thank you for listening. As always, I've been bro number one. I've been bro number two. And we've been the two bros. Thank you. Yeah, thank you, guys.