Do We Have Free Will? : Two Brahs Podcast Episode 14

The Brahs primarly discuss the concept of free will towards the end of the episode.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Like that. It's just a cube. Just a cube. It just follows her. It's just a cube, dude. They're back. They're not whack. They're too bright.

SPEAKER_01 0:18

Fuck dude. There's no point in doing anything. No progression, no advancements. Just in the same position for the last two months. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 0:29

Are we did we start or are you just talking about oh you're talking about the pod, yeah. Yeah. Should that be the start? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Alright, alright, that's the start. That's the start. Alright, fuck it.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, yeah, do your thing. Because you take drugs. Yeah. Yeah. No, man. Uh you know when I say welcome back, who am I saying welcome back to? I don't know. I don't know. I'm just letting you guys know whoever's listening today is gonna be a very depressed episode. Depressed episode. We're probably gonna talk about some philosophical thingies. Yeah. Because we we're sad. We're gonna we're just gonna be generally sad.

SPEAKER_02 1:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09

Yeah, because life isn't all all it's sucked up to be, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:14

Yeah, yeah, it fucking sucks.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

Sucks ass. Yeah. Especially today. It's grey gray outside.

SPEAKER_02 1:18

Yeah, I just wanna put that in there. When we we talked on the phone yesterday, and this guy just goes, Yeah, don't you just hate happy people? Don't you just fucking hate them? Going around, life is so good and shitty. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

But legit though. What's there to be so giddy about? Everything sucks.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Yeah, they're just they're just a good day, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

I don't know. What a beautiful day to be in. No, it's not. No, it's not. Even even the good moments, they last like two minutes. I'm just gonna kill myself.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

Dude, it's a matter of time. Yeah, and it's fucking scary how fast a good good time, how you can be in a good mood to being in a fucking horrible mood immediately. Yeah, yeah, for example, yeah. Today, first time I took public transport in a long time. I was like, okay, I can just sit on my phone and do my thing.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

By the way, he's not hard, he doesn't have a limousine or anything. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

He has a bike, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

Or first time I took public transport.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

Yeah, yeah, whatever, man. Yeah, it could have been walking, who knows? Yeah, I just no kidding. Uh where was I? Yeah, just ended work, you're immediately in a good mood, right? As soon as I step foot on the bus, yeah, life sucks. It just sucks. Yeah, I hate people like that. Because being around these people, my god.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Because uh excluding like youths younger than us, I'm saying like 16-15 year olds, everyone on the bus is depressed on their way to work or from uh back from work, uh life sucks. No, no, no future inside. Yeah, just yeah, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 2:52

Legit what whatever, man. You know, I was really stressed this period when I was moving out. Obviously, it wasn't that big a deal, but when you're moving out, you're immediately immediately more stressed, right? And I was just thinking, like, oh, I can't wait till next week when this is over, over, I'm gonna go back to living life, I'm not gonna have to worry about the landlord or the apartment or anything. And then I come back on the day after I moved and like, yeah, this just sucks too. Yes, yeah, it never ends. Yeah, never fucking ends. It's true though.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Yeah, it's true. It's like it's it's mmm. I feel it's this mmm, it's the same thing when you chase uh chase things in life. You know, you you go for something, and when you get that thing, it's like alright, yeah, I feel nothing.

SPEAKER_02 3:35

I feel nothing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:36

What's the next thing to do?

SPEAKER_02 3:37

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 3:38

So I think it's there's only thrill in the hunt. I think. I think perhaps.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

For me at least.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

Apparently, why rich people are depressed, yeah. And start like, come on.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

There are other things to do. Play tennis. You're playing tennis, come on.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Get into that shit.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Yeah, holy fuck.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

No, but uh shit, dude.

SPEAKER_00 3:59

It's just a shitty day, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 4:00

Yeah, it's honestly a shitty day. You know, when the universe is kind of fucking with you, right? It starts raining, it's cloudy, you're already having a bad day. Kill yourself the wind, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

It must have been the wind. Well, no, it was it was yeah, no, it was me. Kill yourself. Kill yourself, you look miserable. Fuck. Fuck, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:22

Piece of shit, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

Yeah, dude. Uh on on some brighter news, honestly. Okay, a period in our lives, joint lives. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

Not what I meant. Yeah, popped into my mind. Sure. Remember the the winter of 22? I say the winter of 22 like it was 50 years ago. But do you remember the winter of 22?

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Was it the God of War era? God of War era.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

When God of War dropped Rangnarok, and it was such a fuzz, yeah, and we all bought it, right? And we were every day we came and we were like, oh, did you do the puzzle thingy? How did you solve it? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 5:01

And you're all snowing out so it was fucking I remember that period. I was hyped to get home. I was hyped to continue playing that game. Yeah, holy fuck, it was such such a nice vibe to it, I guess. The fucking oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 5:14

The gameplay is super good, and the story is so compelling too. What does happen? Yeah, yeah. And but it was so hard not to get spoiled.

SPEAKER_02 5:22

Yeah, I got spoiled immediately, yeah. Me too, yeah. Fucking TikTok, yeah. Still funny. Still super funny. It was so good, it was so fucking nice.

SPEAKER_01 5:29

So on uh on that note, we have we have a new God of War game coming. Yeah, yeah. Lofie, right? Loofy, yeah. I think Lofie. Lofie uh is supposed to be a giant, right? I know she's a giant, but I I remember Laofi from God of War from uh Thor what's it called? The second movie. The second Thor movie, what the fuck is it called? Um Marvel Thor? Yeah, Marvel Thor. So the first one is Thor. Is it Dark World? Could it be Dark World? I have no clue about it. Either way, yeah. The second Thor movie, Laofi was in it, a giant, yeah, short. So I think yeah, her her name is Faye. Either way, that doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 6:05

You know how Atreus is like low-key, she might be Lafi, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

Either way, uh super thrilled to have a God of War game coming. Uh uh Triple A one, not like the like the the ones released on PS5, the 2D versions. Did you see that one? Sons of Sparta, I think. Oh, I didn't see that. It's uh it's a 2D one. Okay, so it's not like a God of War game, yeah. But yeah, super excited about a new God of War game. And then you go into the concept of the game, you're like, okay, what's the game about?

SPEAKER_02 6:37

Uh because I saw some I saw on the way here actually, I saw some like Asmangold talked about it, right? Like, who wants to play a 43-year-old mom in a video game?

SPEAKER_01 6:47

Alright, let me if she's hard, let me get into the concept behind it. It's about uh Kratos' wife who passed away and what happens after her death. Yeah, so uh what happens during the the course of the game is supposed to be parallel parallel with what happens in God of War and God of War Ryan, so it's not a prequel, but it's collapsing at the same rate as the other characters. Exactly, yeah. And people are like, okay, sure, uh the main character sucks, right? That's what I've heard here and there. Faye sucked, and and why, first of all.

SPEAKER_02 7:20

Yeah, why there's we don't know anything about her almost, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:24

I think she makes for a compelling character. Why did Kratos marry her? She did she had to be cool as shit. We heard stories about her duking it out with Thor. She had the Leviathan axe originally, but she duked it out with Thor, no one won. No one wanted to.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

Icy Lightning, she dueled with the.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

But also during the course of the game, you meet like ghosts and they tell you of the fight. Oh how it was a standstill, no one won. Oh damn. But Thor was drunk. But either way, cool as shit. I'm curious, and especially why the game is so compelling, in my humble opinion, it's take it takes place in the afterlife of the gods. Yeah, all mythological gods, not all of them, all of them, not only Norse, Egyptian, freaking uh what's it called, Greek. But that opens that that's has so much potential, it's insane. That's the right word, potential. The what I'm intrigued about is how they execute on that potential. I think I think it's a good layup. I'm intrigued by Faye. Yeah, I have no problem with Faye.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

I think she's a cool she's a cool character, there's a lots of lots of potential. She's a badass.

SPEAKER_02 8:27

Exactly. I don't know anything about it, so it's only potential. I hop in with an open mind. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

And the concept about the afterlife of the gods, sure, it diminishes a bit. For me, it diminishes what happened in the main games because sure, if you die and there's an afterlife afterwards, then what's the point of everything that happened in the main games? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:48

So for me. And how far does the rabbit hole go? If you die in the afterlife, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

And it's like, okay, Kratos killed all the Greek gods, the whole pantheon. He c he comes to Scandinavia, he does his thing. What's the point then? Yeah, exactly. If you're bound to rule another, yeah, exactly. So I don't know. I I feel there there are two layers to that for me. That part, yeah, and it's like also a curious layer, like shit, all the gods are there. Imagine Zeus, Odin, just chilling, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:20

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 9:22

And they all they showcase two two gods, an Egyptian god and another god, I don't know, from which mythology. You you haven't seen the showcases.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

No, I haven't.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

No, it's actually kinda cool.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

We should show you. I've seen like short snippets of like giants and stuff that she's fighting, but like not uh not anything really. It's a gods? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

And uh, and one thing um I have a question mark about. So listen, I just wanna uh uh encapsulate my opinion so far. Nothing against Faye. I'm curious as to how where they take her, very much curious. Yeah. Uh cool, I think so far what we know of her, she's a cool character. The idea of the gods and the afterlife is cool when you just think of it as it is. But as you when you start thinking about it more deeply, it's like but not then. You get what I'm saying? There's no point to all the things that happen in the main game.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

The thing that's kinda cool about that though, it's like obviously when humans die, they go to their death god or whatever, they go to their realm. But in the games, it's like Helheim and uh what's it called in games? Tartarus. Yeah. Uh those are actually places where gods uh rule, yeah, and then when they die, when gods die, obviously they're not gonna go to their own realm.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

Do you think they're gonna be like alright, but who who rules the afterlife of the gods? Oh yeah. They're like Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

If Jesus makes the cow, I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

I don't fucking know. Yeah, they did it in a show called uh Zack Snyder directed a north Norse mythology uh show called I don't remember what it's called, but at the end of it, yeah, as the gods are dying, they peer forward into the future and see if their religion is still alive and they see Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

What? Yeah, yeah, what the fuck. It's kinda weird, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

But yeah, uh so listen, there's a she has a she has a sidekick. She has a sidekick too. Yeah, it's a cube.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

A cube.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

It's a cube.

SPEAKER_02 11:19

Okay, it's just a cube.

SPEAKER_01 11:21

And remember, this is the afterlife of the gods.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

So that cube has to be a god.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, it's everything in this afterlife a god.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

A god, supposed to be a god.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

Because I've seen this scene where she you know she wakes up and there's just a little fucking cube? No, there's a little fucking like uh squirrel creature that just runs that's a god. Supposed to be a god, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

So this cue is voice acted by Jack Quaid.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Who's Jack Quaid?

SPEAKER_01 11:46

Huey Campbell.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Why the boy? Okay, what the fuck? Yeah. Cool. Yeah, that's pretty cool. That is pretty actually pretty cool. That's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 11:53

But it's like I feel like cube diminishes the coolness of the game.

SPEAKER_02 11:58

Where is this cube? What methodology is that you can do it? You gotta show me this cube. I I don't know. I can't imagine like uh uh a concept for what are you talking what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

I'm I'm gonna show you. Yeah, I'm gonna show you. Keep them entertained.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

Yeah, I was gonna share my opinion about it. I think it's cool, right? That they do a whole afterlife thing. I think I just wanna what from what I've seen, it's just an action-packed God of War type uh God of War styled fighting game, right? That's just awesome, that's just nice. I'd like to I would love to play some of that. If the story's good, that's cool too. Hopefully they don't fuck it up. But the only thing I thought of that I don't know, I don't know if I remember right, but Kratos died before. What? He died before and he went to the Greece.

SPEAKER_01 12:45

But he was a mortality.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

Okay, that's the thing I think I fucked up. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

And by the way, if you go too in-depth, you're gonna find many inconsistencies.

SPEAKER_02 12:53

I don't think it's I don't think it's that, yeah, it's not that deep. Just I hope it's a fucking uh a good story that uh I hope it's a good story, but I I I'm gonna play the game anyways. And if the fighting game, if the fighting mechanics and everything like that's the cube. Okay, it's just a cube. It's literally just a cube. It just follows around. It's just a cube, dude. I thought I thought you meant it was gonna be like a little flying companion. It's a cube! It's just following. Why does it have a oh it's it's a sword. I thought it had a ninja ninja head bigger.

SPEAKER_01 13:27

And by the way, big ass family and and friends to talk to whenever something goes bad. These people probably don't have shit like this. And sometimes even if you do have people around you, they wouldn't get something because they have a certain type of mindset. So I completely understand. But I feel like the I yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

I completely understand why it's happening. Yeah, I I understand the people doing it, but it's just yeah, exactly. It's sad, man. It's sad. It's I feel for the people too. It's just they don't have they don't have a way to go in life, they don't have a direction, they don't have a motive to do something. So they just ricked Rick, that's not an English word, right? Use the word direct they direct all their passion and feelings and everything onto whatever internet thing they're on.

SPEAKER_01 14:09

Yeah, and uh yeah, I don't know, dude. I I actually don't know. I I I feel bad for them and I and I and I think these people need guidance, that's what they need. Not saying I'm perfect, but yeah, exactly. Yeah, but uh there are yeah, I don't know. I don't know. You shouldn't. I just wanna I just want to clarify, I don't think you should put your entire being into a single person, a single show, a single