Hanukkah films - a Gentile perspective

Grab your coffee! Get ready for Hanukkah with our reviews of "Hanukkah on Rye" and "Hanukkah on the Rocks." Share your favorite Hanukkah movie in the comments.

The movie will be rated with numbers of candles versus number of stars. We will use the number of candles on the hanukkiah which is eight, eight being the highest rating.

Candle qualifications

🕯️ = Light the Hanukkah and say the blessings

🕯️ = Explains symbolism of lighting the candles

🕯️ = The reason behind eating fried food such as latkes or doughnuts

🕯️ = Tell the Hanukkah story

🕯️ = Give the meaning of the Dreidel  

🕯️ = Invite others (outside of family) to join celebrating Hanukkah

🕯️ = Be a part of a public gathering for Hanukkah

🕯️= Makes latkes

Hanukkah is all about foods prepared in oil. We will use the doughnuts to rate the sweetness. There is no limit on the doughnuts.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Coffee with Kaylee Marie. To increase in learning and obtain wise counsel. Insightful conversations with family and friends. Grab your coffee and let's get started. Hello, I'm Kaylee Marie, your host. Well, welcome everyone. I have two wonderful friends with me, Fanny and Holly. If you'll both introduce yourselves. Hi, I'm Hollywoods. And hi, I'm Fanny Scully. I'm so glad that you're both here. We're gonna talk about Hanukkah movies. It's exciting. Um so I have a question for both of you, and I'll start with you, Holly. What is the wisdom in watching Hanukkah movies?

SPEAKER_02 0:41

Um, for me, the wisdom in watching this as believers, okay, in uh Yeshua is the evangelical purpose of this. I think we don't often get uh the different side of this. We get to watch Christmas movies, you know, as believers, and we have that good time. And then when we move into um, you know, a different realm of this in a more Hebraic lens, looking at our Jewish neighbors and how what they're watching and what they're doing to try to find a connection point. And then, you know, and that's a way to evangelize, you know, talking to them about how I see what I do and what you're doing too, and so making those connections.

SPEAKER_01 1:26

Yeah. Awesome. I love that. Fanny, what about you?

SPEAKER_00 1:29

What is the wisdom in watching Hanukkah movies? I feel like I'm gonna be the sappy one that whole episode I'm like love and light and hop. I think um, well, this was the first time I watched Hanukkah movies, which thank you, Kaylee. Um, now I have a new genre. But I would say just from watching the movies, it just really made me feel so much hope. I think it talked a lot about hope in God and hope in the community, and I feel like for us as believers and messiah, of course, hope and messiah, um which I think Hanukkah has such a strong connection, surprisingly for us as believers in Jesus or Yeshua, um, to hope and just like the dedication of our lives to Yeshua. So I love the movies because he was so sweet and it was so like happy endings and stuff. Yeah, they get together yay. Yay! Yes!

SPEAKER_01 2:34

Alright, so we're gonna start off with the ratings. So the movie will be rating with numbers of candles versus numbers of stars. I'm using the number of candles on the Hana Kia, which is eight, eight being the highest rating. So kind of like your when you rate a restaurant, you have five stars, one being the lowest, five being the highest. Um, so we have eight candles, one being the lowest, and eight being the highest. Now I did make some qualifications to make sure we had a real Hanukkah movie or close to it. Um, and that is so one candle will count for light the Hanukkah and say Hanukkah and say the blessing. Explain symbolism of lighting the candles, the reason behind eating fried foods such as lakas and or donuts, tell the Hanukkah story, give the meeting of the dreidel, invite others outside of the family to join celebrating Hanukkah, be a part of a public gathering for Hanukkah, and make lakas. Now I listed several, those are eight reasons, they're not all one. Um, so I'll go ahead and start our first movie. Is Hanukkah on the Rye and Fanny, how many candles?

SPEAKER_00 3:56

I would say seven out of eight. Seven out of eight. Holly's like, what? But here's the thing. Here's the thing. I am a Hallmark lover and geek of Hallmark, so I love all things sweet. But I I would give it a seven out of eight. I I'm being gracious because there's like some parts where I would say, like, for example, where it explains the symbolism of lighting the candles. I actually would have really loved both movies, especially this one to kind of talk about more, I guess, more in depth about the miracle of the oil and why we light the candles. But they did light the candles together and they kind of alluded to the miracle. Um and then I didn't give it eight because even though the dreidel and like they even played with the dreidel, they don't really talk about the meaning of why playing with the dreidel instead of the historical component about that related to Hanukkah. So I would say seven out of eight.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

Alright, well, thank you, Fanny. Now, Holly.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Holly is like one.

SPEAKER_02 5:09

Now you have to you have to walk with me. I'm I'm a realist, I'm practical, rational, reasonable. I like documentaries. I tend to be very that's that's not based in reality um kind of person. And and and so I tend to be very direct. I gave it three candles, and here it here's why. Number one, they did a great job with the blessings. Um they they did do now. I will tell you something that I almost gave a half of a candle on this. I didn't know we were allowed to. I always like to do that, so it's a pre-lit candle, that's bad. Um, they I had the subtitles on my TV, and it kept saying that the prayers were in Yiddish, and I went, oh no, I'm sorry. That's not Yiddish. This is Hebrew, and I absolutely was horrified because I'm like, that's not Yiddish. So that was a good point. It was so funny. I went that's very true. Yiddish. However, they did do this, they did do the the prayers and stuff, and I did appreciate they skipped a couple nights, like um, they didn't do like the fourth night and the sixth night. They kind of skipped in that movie. But for for the purposes of the plot, they're just kind of moving you through. They're showing the majority of it, but they're per they're they're moving you through. Um, they did uh go and gather in a park, but they never invited anybody really. I mean, like they had these flyers to get people to come in and drum up business, but you never really know if they were already Jewish people that would have already been there, or if they're Gentiles who are just invited in. That's a good point. Um they do make they do make latkas at some point. So that was, you know, and the donuts and all the all the good foods and stuff. Um it was the more religious I felt of the movies because grandma kisses the Mezuza before entering. Uh he talks about uh in his letter why he believes let me tell you why I believe in God. And it was positive, and he explains things. Um, but other than that, it was like there was um they they mention kind of oil at some point. They talk about oil in the donut making class. He goes, Well, this is great, so that we can show people why we do what we do. Well, why do you do what you do? You never said why you do what you do, you're just making donuts. Um, the singer, she's the only person that ever mentions the story of Hanukkah, but then never tells the story of Hanukkah. Right. Um I I thought was very bad for him. Uh, the feminine hero of the story did not invite him to the park on the first night, knowing he was Jewish. She didn't even invite him to come, so that was a negative point. Point per end. Minus one candle. So I th I thought it was the best ending though, with the family story of the aspect. That I did not see that coming, and so because they they allude to this whole like you know, they had family that came and they really like snuck that in. And I'm pretty good with endings, going, Oh, this is gonna happen. Of course, they're gonna get together. It's a Hallmark movie. Which I was like, I don't know, you're too good for her, but anyway, so but the fact that the family had that beautiful story, that was that was my favorite ending of both. Um, and I felt that that really embodied the spirit of Hanukkah and the Jewish people in that just in that few minutes. Um, but unfortunately, with everything else, I could only three candles.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

That was cute. She was wise. I felt like she was really wise. She did hear those two bubbies and she was smart and stayed behind those closed doors.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

I was I was I was very impressed with the yet. I loved that they said Bubbies. Yes. I loved that. The the battle of the bubbies, yes, where she's like there were a lot of cute things.

SPEAKER_00 9:16

Yes, there were some cute aspects.

SPEAKER_02 9:18

Even the cold-heartedness of me. I was like, oh, then it it it melted away and then did and then it came back.

SPEAKER_01 9:24

Well, that leads into my next question. So Hanukkah is all about foods prepared in oil. So we'll use donuts to rate the sweetness. Yeah. Now I don't have a limit on these because this is a Hallmark movie. So, Fanny, um, you know, however many donuts you want. Holly, you don't have to have that many if you don't have that many. Uh, but what was the sweetness, Fanny, and this movie?

SPEAKER_00 9:51

I think it was super sweet. This movie, I loved the family component. I think that always touches my heart because I'm Hispanic. So family, I think, is really special. And I thought it was really sweet to see as well just the Jewish community portrayed in such a positive light, and just for the hardworking people that they are, for the resilient people that they are, so like with the story of the Bubbies at the end, you know, like finding out they had a connection. I don't want to share too many spoilers because other people watch the movie. Yeah, yeah. But just finding out that they had a connection and just friendship and resilience. I think that was really sweet, beyond the like romance part, right? Which is like, okay, it's a Hallmark movie, there like there's always that. But I thought that was really sweet. I felt like if the Bubbies had duped it out, they wouldn't have got together.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

Like I was like watching going, and it was like funny because when all come here and they all get together and they're happy and they're all like best friends, then she's like, I need to talk to you. And I'm thinking, if that if this had not gone well, this would not have happened. It would have been like we can never be together. And I was like, Well, thank god that the Bubbies have the same recipe, or this would all have been ruined. I mean, just you know, realism. I mean, I think my favorite part of the entire movie of the sweetness ready was the black lobby clerk guy who drinks his coffee. He's like, all he's really sweet. He was my favorite part of the movie because he's like, mm-hmm. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

I could see you doing that part, Colleen. Yeah. You could have played that part.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

He was my favorite because maybe because I see myself in him, because he was like, look at these dummies, look at these morons, like they don't even know. And and he he the whole time is just watching this as this benevolent like spirit, you know, like he's sitting there going, these idiots, like, they don't even know they're perfect for each other, you know, and and the whole time. One of the things that irritated me though was she never once invited him to come to the I would have wanted the clerk guy to come. Like you come with us, bring your coffee. Yeah, so I mean, I felt between the two movies, as far as the the family aspect, the c the the cuteness, the sweetness, the the comedy, um, some of the parts. I mean, I was dying laughing with the clerk guy. Every time he would, his eyes would be peeking over that coffee. He'd be like, without saying more than three words. Yeah, he never heard me talk the whole time, and I love that. He just he had a presence about him. I felt this was the sweeter of the two movies. Yes. So um, as far as a rating, I would, I would, I would give it like it gets three donuts for me. It gets three donuts. Three donuts. Three jelly-filled donuts. Wow. Wow, the jelly-filled donuts.

SPEAKER_00 12:49

What about you? How many donuts do you have? Um I would say all of them. I would say maybe like five. I don't know. I'm saying a random number. I would say like out of a 12-pack.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

I do have to bring out a point, and maybe this is a spoiler, but how do you feel about leftovers?

unknown 13:09

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

And the smoothie. The leftovers.

SPEAKER_02 13:11

Yes. Oh. Oh, like when they have the food and stuff?

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Mom sends leftovers home with her daughter.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

Yes, and like that little cute shape thing. Hmm, that's such a great question. Because I have so many questions about that. Like when I saw that, I was like, why do you do this? Why are you not eating your mom's leftovers?

SPEAKER_02 13:31

Yeah, like she's she's so is it too good for you? What? You know, you get you gotta turn into a cute Jewish mom all of a sudden. You gotta what is it? What you don't like it? You gotta starve yourself because that'll bring you in, right?

SPEAKER_00 13:43

I think that's probably why I love like Jewish culture so much because I think it's so similar to Hispanic culture, and that I mean, my mom gives me less leftovers. I have to eat my leftovers. She's gonna ask me about this leftovers tomorrow, right?

SPEAKER_02 13:58

How were they? Did you like? See, my mother doesn't do that for me.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

Did you taste the one cinnamon thing I put in?

SPEAKER_02 14:04

I put a penny in there, you didn't find it. If you found it, you would have told me. My mother gives my husband leftovers. She doesn't even care about me. My mother's a real Jewish mother. She's like, to heck with you, the son. He has to have the leftovers so that he gets big and strong to heck with you. You haven't given me any grandchildren. Yeah, I thought it was really funny.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

But I thought it was kind of a sweet way to give leftovers.

SPEAKER_02 14:26

Um, that was a lot of tin full of things made.

SPEAKER_01 14:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

Like my mother has old uh Chinese gingin, like that's all warped from the microwave in the dishwasher. She's like, hair.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

Well, we'll start with the next movie, and that is Hanukkah on the Rocks. So again, we have the candles. So, Holly, how many candles do we do we have full candles this time? Do we have full candles? Yes, we got some full candles. You will be shocked.

SPEAKER_02 14:59

You're gonna be shocked. I gave it five candles. It's in one of my favorite places in the world, in a bar. So I um I I felt this one, um, as far as the the prayers and stuff, it was um he calls it a menorah at some point, which technically I guess a Hanakia is a menorah, but not all menorahs are Hanakias. Somebody told me this once. And I was like, what? Anyway, but they do they do do the prayers. They do skip a couple nights, again, plot-wise, they kind of, you know, we can't do every single night. I mean, this movie would go on forever, kind of thing. Um, grandpa never mentions really the oil. There's really not the story of Hanukkah. Um he he kind of grandpa on the third night says some nice words about lighting a candle, how nice the lights, and but the but the story didn't really give us any of the Hebraicness of it, hardly at all, or any of the story of the Maccabees, really, other than the kids' uh storybook that the guy had to help the kids spell Maccabees. Um I was like, okay, that doesn't he's reading a book about the Maccabees for Hanukkah, and never is the story ever like given to us. It's just the one word that the kid can't even say, which I would like to think the kid, the kid's like 10. I think he can say Maccabees at this point. Anyway, so I was like, unrealistic, unless he's his mother's not homeschooling him, well. Um he I was really surprised with this one right at the end. They talk about the dreidel and why because they're going into why she's a miracle for their family. She was the miracle, and she's like, but you were my miracle. He gets all verklumped, which is Yiddish for like he's getting all choked up, he's getting all verklumped, and he's like, You were my the dreidel says the things, and you are the things, and and I was like, Okay, that's beautiful. Um, they do invite the bar people to engage in Hanukkah. To me, I felt like these people were force-fed. Here are these drunks who just want to be at a bar, and they're they kind of get force-fed a little bit. I mean, where else are you gonna go? You're at the bar. Um, they do do a community center thing at some point. They make the Laka's the lady who uh who is the food person for the bar. She she makes all kinds of cute little uh dishes there at the end because she's realizing that she can, you know, do the gourmet thing again. Um I was a little irritated at the beginning. I felt that there was some anti-Semitism. What's her name? She gets she gets fired and went, it's because she's Jewish. Fired because she's Jewish. Merger didn't bring in her. I couldn't, I was like convinced it's anti-Semitism in this movie. And that's the realist of me. I was like, let's, let's, let's get and the fact that she's sitting at the the breakfast place and the guys won't even come over and say hi to her. Hmm. Suspect. What is the real reason she got yes, injustice? This is injustice. Um, but otherwise, I felt like this one, as far as a as a Hanukkah movie, really hit more of the candles for me. Um, it wasn't the sweetest or the cutest of the two, but to me was actually the more realistic of the two things.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

That's probably why it has that many donuts.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

That many candles and that many donuts. It definitely didn't, there wasn't that family aspect as much, especially because uh Jay, the son, is trying to get grandpa to move back to Florida. So there is a there it's supposed to have a lack of family. There was a point to that in the in the plot. Um, her family obviously, you know, they're away on vacation. Her sister knows the situation, Bubby, her grandmother, is kind of in on some stuff, and of course, Bubby is the wise Bubby who knows things before she even tells her. So there was a little bit of family aspect, but it was not near as endearing as the other movie. It was honestly more realistic, like my family, where people are going, eh, whatever. So that was my my candles.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Alright. So, Fanny, how many candles?

SPEAKER_00 19:22

I actually give it six out of eight. So we're not too far, we're not too far from each other, Holly. Um, I feel like this one, I don't know, they were like gaps. There were some gaps. And maybe my expectations, maybe my expectations were too high with these two movies. Just I would have really loved to hear more about the Hanukkah story. Like what did actually happen? Yeah, what did the Maccabees actually do? Why is it important to celebrate Hanukkah? I guess from like a religious perspective, I think both movies were more of like cultural aspects of Hanukkah, um, which are connected obviously to the religious side of Hanukkah, but I would have liked a little bit more of that story of Hanukkah. Um but I feel like it was sweet too, and I actually like that this movie um maybe it's just like the meaning that I kind of got from it, but it just made me think about how as believers in Messiah we see this as an opportunity to sort of like a memorial to the fact that we can rededicate ourselves to our relationship with God and just acknowledge that He's a miraculous God and He's holy, and in like rededicating ourselves, there's always change and like aspects of God changing our lives. And I think with this movie, we we do see the main character kind of going through like a change in life.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

Yeah, and both of them, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Well, that's true on the first one too. But I would say for this one even more, we've got to be like with a female.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

Oh, yeah, because he's like, I don't want to leave Florida, I want to go back and do the thing because that's what I'm supposed to do.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

Yeah, but I feel like for her with the whole like career thing, and sort of at the end, kinda having this awareness of there are other things more important in life than just work. Right. Or like my personal success. Yes. Um, so I I feel like I kind of saw that as like, oh, that's sort of the underlying like theme of you know Hanukkah, which means means dedication, is like kind of realizing what is important in life, which is like family and your community and serving, and for us, obviously just showing. So I feel like that's what I kind of connected it to the next question, but just thinking about the sweetness of that of the movie is just seeing somebody have that realization. I guess that journey. Yeah. I really like that point.

SPEAKER_02 22:17

You could put yourself in their shoes. Yeah, yeah. I feel like that was relatable to me. It was a little more realistic. And I felt she got the better end of the deal because she's gonna get with him and get that whole building and the bar. Other girl, okay, so you open up a new, you know, deli. That's more money, that's more time. You know, I was thinking, oh, you got the you got the shaft on this one. And they didn't even get to name it after each other. They got name after grandmothers who aren't even alive anymore. I thought that was cute, too. It was slightly cute, but it was a bubby's deli. So yeah, like Bubbies with a you know, multiple Bubbies, you know.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

It's a family thing. I mean, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

Too much people are all about their family. That's true, yes. I just I did love that about yeah. I don't know. I liked both movies, but I think this one did really, really well in inviting people, even if it was like people at a bar, which is hilarious. I just thought it was so funny. Inviting people that are quote unquote like outsiders in the sense of this is not something that they traditionally or normally does. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

And then the gym where the people that work at the bar, which you know, I had totally pegged at some point. I think it was about halfway through the movie. I went, Grandpa owns the building. I just I just had this moment. The other movie I did not pick up on that the the the Bubbies would have had shared a recipe. Never in a million years was I ever gonna clock that, which I like a good twist when I can't when I can't peg it, because I'm usually always right. So this one, I already saw Grandpa owns the building. That's the end of the day. But um, I love that you know, grandpa spends all his time there because um, you know, that's where that's where family is. That's where his family is. He created his own family. The difference between um somebody recently told me the difference between being treated like family and being treated like a relative. Um family, being treated like family is different than being treated like a relative. And his family in Florida treats him like a relative. But the the family in the bar treats him like family. I mean, he gets eat all the cherries, gets kind of do whatever he wants, never mind.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:25

He's like the grandpa of the bar, and that they are they're in on it. Like they're using Yiddish and Hebrew terms, and they they're he has incorporated them in his life, and they've incorporated him the him and theirs enough that you know they're picking it. It's almost like when we first started walking in messianic Judaism, where we just start picking up the new words of calling things like brit ha Britkata Shah, you know, things like that that I think is just really magical about the movie is that they're inclusion, yeah. The inclusion that they have with him, that they just they they know all the terms and they, you know, and of course they get them wrong, and he says, No, it's like this, you know, the difference between saying mushugana and mishnika, you know, it's he he he gets them through that, and I think that's really cute. That was a cute aspect of it.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

Awesome. Well, I do want to point out something that I didn't talk about prior to this episode. So yes, my plot twist. What out of the two movies did you see that was inspiring that maybe you could take away and was a lesson?

SPEAKER_02 25:43

Well, I'd say, like, if I ever go to get married again, if my dear husband dies on me, um I will I will definitely go to a bar and hope that I find a guy that, you know, I'm just kidding. Um that that was interesting because my my my husband and I uh kind of met at a bar, believe it or not. We met at a gas station, but we used to we had our cheers. We had a place where we went just like he did. Although, I have to say this. Did anybody clock? I mean, you're the same age as me, you're a couple years younger than I am. Um, the guy that plays the grandpa in Hanukkah on the Rocks, do you know who he is? No, I do, but I forgot. He was on Nickelodeon had a show where it was like these kids were competing, and there was like the slime, the green slime, it's last name Summers. And I was like, oh my god, I thought he was dead. But he's not dead, clearly. So it was it was really funny because I was like, oh, I grew up watching him on TV in the 80s and 90s. So like it was really that part for me was like, oh my gosh, at least an actor, I I know who he is. All the other ones, I didn't nobody was was at least somebody that I've seen in another movie before that I would be able to tell. But um I I liked I really liked the the Hanukkah on the rocks. Again, to me, it was just a little bit more realistic. Again, I love love going out to get drinks, having fun with friends. It's just one of my my my favorite things to do. It's one of my favorite things about doing a rev Shabbat is that it's very you get together, you have a couple, glasses of wine, you just schmooze, and you have a really good time. All the while making sure that Yeshua and and Adani are first. And I feel like you get to you get to have fun with them, you know, uh on on Shabbat, you know. Um I liked the message of the reality of sometimes we can put things first. You know, we tend to push our career, or I've even seen, you know, like people with their children, you know, they they may not have the best relationship with their spouse, so they they attach themselves or kids more and they put something else forward that isn't what's probably most important. And they both recognize it at some point that they've done this and that there is a way to fix it. You can you can step away from it and and and fix it. Now they don't realize obviously Adonai is the most important aspect of their life, but um I feel like people dynamic we call these in in literature dynamic characters because they change. Stagnant characters are the ones that never change, they don't ever do anything in the story. I feel like the characters in Hanukkah on the Rye, while they kind of change, they're more stagnant characters because they don't ever really give up on whatever they're doing. They they just by the nature of it end up getting what they both want. Whereas in Hanukka on the Rocks, they they have to completely change. It completely changed everything about their life in order to move forward in the story. And that was really important to me because I know I tend to fixate on things. Like, what's more important? What do I gotta do? What's more important? First thing, you know, my husband thinks of when he wakes up in the morning is to do the the the 18, 19 standing prayers. My first thing is, what am I gonna be making for dinner today? You know, like sometimes that's what I tend to do, and I really struggle with that sitting down with Adonai every day. Now I do, but it's not the way that I I think it should look like, and I'm very hard on myself for that, but it it was, it was just more impactful to me because it felt more realistic. And again, the the lesson of oh good, meet a guy, he'll own the bar, he'll have the bar, you'll make money the rest of the life. I thought that right there, that's the good stuff.

SPEAKER_00 29:50

So funny. I don't know, I would say definitely the first movie, the Hanukkah and Ride, I feel like there were a couple of things that I th well the family thing, yeah, I really resonate with that lesson because to me in that movie there was a genuine desire to prioritize your family and like honor your elders in a positive way. I feel like that that was really highlighted. Um which I think sometimes in other films there we don't see that anymore. We don't see like honoring of your elders in that way anymore. So I really enjoyed that part.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:41

Um, and I also really enjoy that towards the end both main characters like apologize for basically being overreacting. Like overreacting, yeah, that's the word, like overreacting. And I thought, oh, that's refreshing. Emotional intelligence in a movie. I know.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

I'm like, why do we have to create problems?

SPEAKER_00 31:02

There's enough problems for the world. Why are you upset about this? All these, all these fake problems. Uh, but I actually thought that was refreshing to see in a movie because a lot of people don't show that in movies of oh, I did something wrong, I'm going to apologize. So go through the motions, yeah. Yes, actually go through the motions of apologizing and saying, you know what, that was bad. I felt like to do it.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

She was so overreacting in that one. When he when he revealed that he was David, he was the guy, I would have been overjoyed, like, oh my god, I don't have to make a decision. Yeah, because you are the guy, and she's just sitting there with her lip quivering and then she loves you. And she was upset. And I went, This this is a blessing. Why are you not what is wrong with you? Why are you not understanding? But it's like, listen, this is a Hellmark movie.

SPEAKER_03 31:49

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

A Hellmark movie must have some conflict that needs to be resolved before a happy ending. Absolutely. There's a Hallmark prescription.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

Yes, right?

SPEAKER_00 32:02

I suppose so.

SPEAKER_01 32:03

What is the sweetness in Hanukkah on the rocks, Fanny?

SPEAKER_00 32:10

I said like, I think I said five for the next one. I'll probably give it, I'll give it like three and a half. Yeah. Three and a half donuts. Yeah, I think we have a donut hole in there.

unknown 32:21

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

Yes, three donuts in a donut hole. Yeah, I'll give it three for the last one just because like I was trying to think of I had three points while it was sweet. This one I really struggle. It wasn't as much like, oh, as the other one was. So it was um, I'd give it like one and a half because just there was less of that familiness that um, you know, she's worried the entire time they're gonna find out that she's been fired. So there's just more tension. While the first one I felt had more unnecessary tension, this one actually had more realistic tension to me. Like, if I got fired from my job, I may not want to tell my mom, you know, because she's gonna be like freaking out. Um but it there was less I felt kindness in the entire thing. I think the bar family was nice because I can relate. I don't really have a big family, and I have my parents, and I have a brother who is not really existent in my life, and I never really had the big family growing up, growing up in the military. And so I like that the Hanukkah on the rocks, you made your own family because that's what I've had to do, especially in synagogue. Yeah, I've had to make my own family versus having a family already. Um, and the one that I've got is just not working out, so it's not a gently-filled donut. No, it is a dry, pasty, then under the sink donut with mold on it. That's what it is. So I but I while I almost liked Hanukkah on the Rocks more, it didn't really have all the sweet factors, which is probably why I like it more. Um, because I'm like, oh, this is more realistic. People are less.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

It's definitely more realistic. Yeah, yeah. Like more, yeah. It's not so much like the fairy tale hallmark. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 34:19

There was no, there's no gun to trying to get them together. They just naturally kind of like each other. Although I will say the whole candle scene where they go to the store to get the candles, I was like, she's like, he's like, well, as a gentleman, I'll give them to you. Well, as a feminist, I don't want him. And he goes, Okay, I would have been doing the same thing. You can't sit there. And then she follows him to the bar. I thought, she's gonna beat him up for no candles. That's what she was gonna do. Creepy, it was a little creepy. She like follows him to the bar. I mean, that's the first thing I think of when a guy steals candles for me. Follow him. Oh, and he went into a dark dive bar that they they specifically name as a dive bar in the movie. And I went, oh yes, that's my first thought. Going into the dive bar after this guy.

SPEAKER_00 35:04

And I didn't a Hallmark movie.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

I mean, I'm I was really struggling to remember the last time I'd ever seen a Hallmark movie. So I was like, okay, maybe I'm a little out of touch with what movies are like these days because I watch a lot of TV movies.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

Well, Hallmark is not like anything else out there. Yeah. I remember Lifetime.

SPEAKER_02 35:25

Lifetime movies. But usually that involves a woman getting slapped around and then she kills her husband. Those are the kind of movies I was thinking I was gonna be watching.

SPEAKER_00 35:35

Thank you, Kayleigh.

SPEAKER_01 35:39

Fantastic choices. Yes, that's fun. Um, if there are any writers listening that would like to write a Hanukkah movie, you now know what needs to go in the movie and what not to put in the movie if you want Holly to watch it. You know exactly what needs to go in the movie as well.

SPEAKER_00 35:58

And I will happily watch your movie for free.

SPEAKER_02 36:03

Maybe put a little bit more war scenes in it, maybe war time. It was a war. Yeah, maybe a nice take on it. Yeah, do a Maccabees history but with a love story in there. Somebody one of these Maccabees guys have to get a woman, right?

SPEAKER_01 36:18

I mean, yeah, I mean, well, and mean the friendship or story about Hannah and the story of the greater more of the meaning of that.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

I would love to see. So absolutely. If you're a writer, please write movies about Hanukkah. We want to watch them.

SPEAKER_02 36:37

If you're a messianic gentile or messianic Jew, please write a Hanukkah movie from our practice.

SPEAKER_00 36:44

Yes. And we will watch it. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

Well, thank you, ladies. I appreciate you both being here. This has been a lot of fun, and I look forward to maybe next year we'll have to do another Hanukkah movie episode. Yes, hopefully these writers will get on the call, right? Get on it and get it moved. Yes. Thank you, Kaylee. Thank you so much. Thank you. This year Hanukkah begins at sundown on December 14th, 2025. What is your favorite Hanukkah movie? Drop it in the comments. You have been listening to Coffee with Kaylee Marie. Thanks for listening. Happy Hanukkah, and until next time, shallow.