Chasing the W
Women’s basketball, rec-league energy, and real talk. Hosted by two hoop-obsessed friends who met in a PRIDE rec league, this podcast dives into everything happening in women’s sports — with women’s basketball at the center. We break down games, talk culture, share stories from the court, and celebrate the players and communities pushing the game forward. Come for the hoops, stay for the banter.
Chasing the W
Chasing a Win Streak
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On this week's episode, Amanda and Bon talk current standings and the biggest surprises there, the Liberty's win streak, A'ja's 6000th point (!!!) and finally accessibility around streaming games.
Welcome back to another episode of Chasing the W. I'm Amanda.
BonnieAnd I'm the Bonnie. Hello, listeners.
AmandaHow's it going, Bon?
BonnieGood. It's been a hectic week. I've been a single mom beating these cats by myself. A single mom.
AmandaThat's a great show. Yeah, I never watched it. Honestly, it was just one of those things that was like sometimes it was on TV.
BonnieWhat was it called again?
AmandaReba.
unknownOh.
AmandaAnd you know what? She did a re-record recently since it blew up again on TikTok. And honestly, incredible because she's like she's like the white Mary J. Blash. Like they got the same haircut. They're both that girl. Like, just think about it. I mean Yeah, I I can get down with that. Anyway, you were a single mom. Yeah, single mom.
BonnieThese cats need so much attention. Um my sister was in town last week. We had a great time. We did a lot. I feel like we did a lot. Um as one does when there are visitors in New York City. I took her to her first Liberty game. That's right. She loved it. I met her there. Yeah. I met the sisters. Yeah. Um I feel like that night Ellie wasn't her like she wasn't on her A game. And I was a little disappointed because I was hyping Ellie up so much, my sister.
AmandaNot enough booty clapping.
BonnieNot enough twerking. I was like, where are you? Like, you know how she usually is like on the floor walking around back and forth. I didn't see her at all, I feel like, until she came out for the like Welly Stop.
AmandaYeah, she was kind of like all over the place. Like in less visible, yeah. Yeah. Much less. She was definitely like more in the stands, but I would imagine it's because it was so much more full, maybe.
BonnieOh, yeah. I don't know. I forgot that was the fever game. It was. And TG, we beat their ass.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. We'll talk about it later.
BonnieYeah. Um, what do you do? What have you been up for? Well, I was also a single mom who works two jobs because Brenda was on a work trip. You're Mary J, I'm Reba.
AmandaIt's true. Um, and I think that's who we have to be for Halloween. Yeah. I don't know what Brenda and Eliza are gonna do, but that's what we're doing. Like the pixie cut. I think you might have to shave your head again. Okay, I'll do it for that.
BonnieI'm dead.
AmandaNo, I mean, I've just been busy being a girl. Um taking time for myself, yeah. A little reset for my mental health, and pouring myself into the things I love. So basketball, friendships, and more basketball, really. Basketball and friendships. That's what my life has been. Just being more intentional with how you spend your time, you know? Yeah. Especially now that the weather's nicer and stuff. And I don't know. I've been just been thinking like it's crazy that we're given two days of freedom to do everything that we need to take care of ourselves in life. And I've been taking like a week in change to just do stuff around the house that I've been wanting to do, which is like crazy because there's no time to do it otherwise. It's true, it's bullshit. I hate capitalism.
BonnieI really, really hope that one day we can have the four-day work week. I'm just waiting to become a sugar baby. I know. I'm hoping that I have like a distant aunt that I don't know about.
AmandaRight, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think I think it could be in your cards, maybe not mine, but it could be in yours. I think it could be in yours too. I don't know. Maybe it's in Eliza's. Maybe there's some kind of like weird connection to like British royalty since they still belong to the crown, don't they? Yes, that's tough. The Commonwealth, they're slaves, I guess. It's crazy. It's tough, it's tough for the Aussies. Um, yeah. I think they kind of love it though. Maybe one day we won't ever have to work again.
BonnieThat's my hope. That's my dream. The podcast will take off. The podcast will take off.
AmandaAnd this is not really working. I know. This is pouring ourselves into stuff we love best.
BonnieI mean, there is work, but it doesn't feel like work. It just feels like fun.
AmandaYeah, I agree. Well, I think we have a really good episode today. We're gonna talk about current standings, our thoughts on that, then we'll talk obviously see film spotlight. Let's focus on the girlies, and then of course we have overtime. And then we'll have another 24-second shot clock. The classic rundown. Classic. So let's get right into it.
BonnieWait, before we get right into it, should we talk about the MNBA really quick? Okay, yeah. Just for like 30 seconds, just quickly.
AmandaFirst of all, neither Bonnie nor I are from New York. No, but we are here in New York, and before game four of Knicks versus Spurs, we said we just hope it's a good game and people have fun. Right. Obviously, living in New York, we benefit from the Knicks winning, but we're not bandwagon fans. No. But we have friends who are Knicks fans, and we want our friends to be happy, and we support our friends. And you know what? I like the vibe it's creating. I do like the that's what I mean. We get to benefit from everyone else in New York being happy, and I just have to say, like, I didn't really have a stake in them. I mean, I guess I still don't have a stake in it, but I was like very fascinated by Wemby. I still am, like, we've talked about it, right? Like the guys just keep being born bigger and bigger, which is really fucking scary for women. But that's neither here nor there. One thing I I was not a fan of is he literally put Jalen Brunson, he did like the tombstone fucking pile driver. And nobody called it. And nobody called it. It was never upgraded to a flagrant even after the game. It's just like very strange. And also, like we were talking about that a lot last night. Well, Wemby wants to be, it seems, uh a villain. All last night to Mitchell Robinson, I'm in your head, I'm in your head. Only to blow a 30-point lead. Are you not fucking embarrassed? Yeah. That's tough. That is tough. Just because like I'm somebody who's very stitched. Yeah. And so, I mean, you remember that year that you came over for Eagles Chiefs? I swear this is not to rag on you, but like before quarter, we were cooking, and I was like, still not excited because I was like, anything can happen. I mean never knocked it.
BonnieThat game was over at halftime.
AmandaNo, I the Chiefs didn't even play that game. See, but my superstition did not allow me to celebrate until it was done.
BonnieBut literally last night I thought it was over. Like they were down 29 points in the third quarter, I think. And fucking just went on a run. Basketball is a game of runs.
AmandaIt's a game of runs. And you know what's crazy? I wasn't feeling well last night, and so I went to bed close to halftime. It's because my head was pounding. Yeah. And so I rest, I went to rest my little eyes, and Brenda was in bed reading a book, and I can't tell you what woke me up. I just opened my eyes and said, Did you say something? And she was like, What? No. And then I heard lots of yelling outside. And I my eyes got wider, and I said, The Knicks did it, didn't they? And I opened my eyes and there was a second left. They were up one. I was just like, What the fuck?
BonnieLike, that was some psychic shit, to be honest. I mean, I'm glad you saw the the very end of the expeditiously.
AmandaIt was so crazy. Brenda was like, Well, did they? And I was like, Don't you think they fucking did? They did start spreading the news. Um, anyway, great, great game. Shout out to the boys. I also love that they're like built like that was OG's game last night. Yeah. He deserved a game ball. He deserves, he might deserve finals MVP. Yeah. But I mean, we'll we'll see. I think the Knicks are built like an elementary class in the Bronx, and that's why they're gonna win the whole thing. Like they're so diverse. They got Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, black boys, white boys. Yep. It's crazy.
BonnieIt's fun. I know like we're not bandwagon fans, but it is kind of fun to be like watching.
AmandaYeah, it's fun. It's fun to watch really good basketball. Because I mean, underdog basketball is really great. And I feel like the Knicks are just very they're choke artists, they're very much like the Sixers. They they choke when it matters, and so they didn't, and so good for them.
BonnieKnicks and five, baby. Knicks and five. Okay, that's all we have to say.
AmandaOkay, now back to the real shit. Yeah, back to the real basketball. So current standings. Holy shit. The Lynx are sitting at the top thanks to number two overall pick Olivia Miles. She's fucking filthy. She's so good. She's so good. As a rookie, she's averaging 17.8 points per game, 5.2 rebounds per game, 6.3 assists per game, and one steal per game. Is that not insane? It is insane. They don't even need Nafisa. But that's what's scary. I know.
BonnieShe's gonna come back and but she's gonna she's gonna she's gonna be wobbly when she comes back, right? Probably.
AmandaI don't know. That's your girl. You tell me. I don't know. Isn't isn't Fee your girl, or is she Eliza's girl?
BonnieI think she's more Eliza's girl than mine. Well, I don't know. I do like her. I think she's annoying sometimes on the corner. Yeah. Tough. But tough. Um no, I only cheer for her during Unrivaled. But yeah, yeah. I mean, Olivia Miles is really that that girl.
AmandaIt's insane. And we've talked about this a little bit, but like I just didn't make I didn't think it made sense for Dallas to take Olivia, even if even if AZ wasn't in the draft, just because they already have Paige. Unless you want unless you want to move one of them to the two. Because you can't have Paige Beckers and Olivia Maz on the same team and have one of them on a bench. Yeah, no. That's just not how that's gonna work.
BonnieBut I feel like, did you watch that game against?
AmandaI did watch some of it. Well, I turned it on and it was a fucking blowout. And I was just like, oh, I gotta turn this on.
BonnieWhat the fuck is going on with Dallas?
AmandaLike, I feel like I'm not supposed to be watching it. That's how I thought I was just like, this feels like a personal moment that I'm not supposed to be having any insight into. But like they played the wings, and Olivia Miles, like, she got that shit on a fucking yo-yo. There's just one play where she she crossed, she crossed the ball over it. AZ was gone. Yeah. AZ was no longer in Minnesota. She was in fucking Wisconsin. She was gone. And then she hit a three-air face, and I was just like, that's tough because AZ's a good defender. I know. You gotta think about how long this rivalry has been going on because they played. But I don't think it's like a at least to me, like, I don't think it should be like, oh, the number one pick versus the number two pick, just because it's like a team sport. And also they do play different positions. Like AZ, AZ's also a different kind of player. She's a catch and shoot, shooting guard, she's a great defender. Olivia Miles is point god junior. Like she might surpass Chelsea Gray. She's got those specs on. Like, not right now, but it's possible. Give it some time. She's everything they thought Caitlin Clark was finna be. Let's be so for real. Let's be real. Like, it's just crazy because I just think about all the hype that came with her with Caitlin when she came into the league. And I remember thinking who who they want her to be is who Paige is. But then you think about all the other college hoops talent coming. When Juju gets into this league, it's gonna be crazy. You know what I mean?
BonnieYeah. When is Juju getting into the league? 2028? I don't think she'll go next year because she'll She wants to play.
AmandaI think she'll play the extra year, but who knows? Anything's possible. Anything's possible. Anything's possible.
BonnieI think she should play one more year. But um, yeah, shout out to Olivia, man. You're really killing it.
AmandaYeah, the Lynx only have two losses this year to Chicago and Atlanta, but to be fair, that's crazy that Chicago beat them. I think to be fair, it was maybe before they lost Rikia. Because you know Rikia was playing out of her fucking mind.
BonnieAlso, I haven't even seen Rikia on the bench. I hope you're okay, Rikia.
AmandaShe'd probably take some time away to rehab and do all that stuff. I I feel like it would be really hard for me to be on the bench. Like you having a monster season, and I don't know. It's tough. She's probably just rehabbing somewhere that's comfortable for her. You're right. And she's from Detroit, so she might be in Detroit at home with family and stuff. Um, okay. Shout out Detroit. Um Detroit.
BonnieNow that we're on the subject of Chicago, did you see the Skylar presser?
AmandaOf course I did. You have do you have thoughts? Bro, like, it's just really frustrating because Skylar Dickens did a postgame presser where she was talking about needing accountability and maturity from the coaching staff. And yeah, it's just annoying because what the fuck was Angel trying to say this whole time? And she got chewed alive, and then Skylar come out and say it, and they're like, Oh my god, she's such a competitor. And it's just like just because she said it differently, like, that's what Angel was trying to say. Yeah, and now look at like this is why it was like really annoying to see all these stars go to Chicago because Rachel or not Rachel, uh Angel Ben said it. Like she said it already. Yeah, so I mean that's what you get. They wanted to go to the public locker room, like that's crazy. That's crazy.
BonnieI can't believe that they're all there, to be honest. I do hope something changes though, because I feel like Skylar's in like a tough spot right now, and that she's not really being like utilized or able to play to her full potential.
SPEAKER_01It's because they got a bunch of fucking point guards out there. It's crazy. Why did they get so many guards? They got get uh Gabriela Jaquez, fucking Natasha Cloud, Skylar Diggins, they got Rachel Bannham. Like, what is happening?
BonnieI mean, Vandersu, if she ever plays again. Oh, I forgot about her. I literally forgot about it. If she ever plays again, no, it's they have DJ Carrington as well.
AmandaShe's still injured. Yeah, still injured, but she's a guard. I forgot she was injured and I still picked her up in fantasy. Like, what a dick.
BonnieI know. Well, I keep saying that she's gonna come back, but I don't know.
AmandaI'm getting screwed. You completely decimated me last week. Like there was one point where you were up 400 to 200 something, and I said, Yeah, I'm I'm calling it a calling it a day, bruh. What's crazy? That's so humble. You didn't even know you were beating the shit out of me. No, I think I did. Bonnie was so bad. I opened the app one day and I was like, okay, I'll just go fuck myself.
BonnieI had to I had to win that one because I came, I just came from losing.
AmandaI'm like one in three right now. And I only beat Brenda.
BonnieAnd that doesn't feel like it counts.
AmandaIt's your wife crowd. Yeah, wife on wife crowd.
BonnieYeah, everyone wins when you're playing your wife.
unknownYeah.
AmandaUm, so the aces are at number two right now.
BonnieYeah.
AmandaBut they've played less games than the Lynx, and they've also lost one more than the Lynx have. So they have three losses right now. I don't know. I just don't really understand how the scheduling works and how there could be at any point where teams haven't played right as many. Like I get it if it's just one, if it's like day to day, but it I think it was like two games, I think I just said. So I don't know. Very interesting, but that's to be expected. It's the Aces is a dynasty. The dream sit at number three. So, what does that tell us? It sounds like that was a good move for Angel. She's had eight double doubles in the first 11 games. Yeah. So that's scary because she's not even their top option. So you got Alicia Gray and Ryan Howard and Brianna Jones and Jordan Fucking Canada. They're stacked in Atlanta. Yeah.
BonnieYeah, that's what I'm saying. I think they're gonna definitely make it far this season. And we play them tonight. I know, I'm excited because they're number one in the East, we're number two.
AmandaYeah, we play them tonight. Battle for the East in Atlanta. So not a home game. But their their arena, I feel like, is no, it's actually really small, and it's by the airport, and I only know this because obviously Eliza and I are going to Atlanta. Are you guys going to game? We're gonna try to go to a game. Okay, cool. The day we get there, there's a home game, it's not the Liberty. What is kind of annoying though, because Atlanta is it's massive, and yeah, our hotel is like on the complete opposite side of the city, and so we have to leave the airport, go to the hotel, go back. But I think it'll be worth it. Wait, leave the airport. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, because we'll have all of our craft, they definitely won't let us in with that.
BonnieDo you think you know how some people have like bag checks? Oh. You could you should check, but whatever, just go home. Yeah, or just find the hotel.
AmandaBut I we're gonna try. And I was already looking at tickets and they seem over. Who are they playing? Sorry, you might have said that. I have no idea. Oh, I don't remember. I just know it's not the liberty. That would have been sick though. That would have been sick. But then I feel like I get to, you know, we get to go to the game and just exist and enjoy and not have a stake in it. Fair.
BonnieSo but I hope it's a good game. Like I don't want you to be playing Yeah, yeah, yeah.
AmandaAnd the arena's small though, so like any seat is a good seat. Yeah, that's how I know. Because I was just like, wow, this is like really teeny tiny. It reminded me of I mean, I can tell when I watched the city.
BonnieLike it looks like a baby arena.
AmandaYeah, the Chicago arena. I I mean I guess I'll report back. I don't know if it's gonna be worse than Chicago because that place was a rinky dank little arena. It was so bad.
BonnieYou know what? I also feel like the arena that Tempo plays in is so weird because you can clearly tell it's a hockey, like a hockey arena. It's so strange looking. Like the seats, the front or the courtside seats are so far away from the court. I don't know. There's a lot of space in between the court and the fans. Interesting. Which feels weird. I don't know. I'm so used to Barclays where we're just like right there.
AmandaI mean, let's be honest. The the only place that's probably gonna rival Barclays is Bahala. I know. I really want to go to Barkley. I want to go to Bajala, yeah. Maybe we can do it next summer. Let's do it. Let's do it. Chasing the W goes to Bajala. We're shaking hands. We shouldn't have to do it. Okay. Okay. So at number four, it's us. It's us, the girls, the Liberty. And we're on a win streak right now. Hell yeah, we are. More on that later. Um, then five, six, seven are wings, Valkyries, fever in that order, and then eight through fifteen are Tempo, Fire, Sparks, Mercury, Storm, and Sun. What's going on with the fucking Mercury? Really? So such a good question.
BonnieWhat is it?
AmandaWell, like literally, what is going on? Because they can't seem to find their footing, and it's it's like weird.
BonnieIt is because they have really good players, yeah, and they've all played together for so long. Like, it's not like a chemistry thing.
AmandaIt's very strange. It's very strange.
BonnieAnd they've had the same coach for a few years. So I'm like, what? I hate this.
AmandaIs it Donna Bonner? No, I mean, it probably is her. But should Tash have stayed there? Yeah, 100%. Like, why did she leave? Oh no, she got traded, didn't she? To us? To Connecticut. Oh. Do you remember? She was with Connecticut for like a day. I don't remember. But it was before the season E ever started. And so then she made her way from Connecticut to New York. But it sounds like they traded her, which I guess I wouldn't want to go back if I were her.
BonnieYeah. But I mean, is it always bad blood when you're traded?
AmandaI just feel like it's business. Yeah. Like, at least in sports. Like, you can't really. I mean, imagine you're at work, you're in the office, and they're like, hey, we've traded you to another company. I would be like, fuck. No, but I don't know what's going on with them. And then for the Sparks, for me, that's a little surprising, but I know Kelsey missed a couple games. Kelsey. But you kind of expect them to perform better since they have NECA. And Cam Brink is finally playing well. Yeah, Cam Brink. We also had a good night last year. Who? Cam uh Ray Borrell, Sweet Baby Ray. She's what? Didn't she get hurt a couple games ago?
BonnieShe played last night. Oh, so it was just exaggerated. Okay. Maybe she got sick or something.
AmandaNo, I feel like she went down during a game. Oh. And then she went to the locker room, but transparently I never followed up. So anyway, who had a good game? Cam or Nekka?
BonnieCam had a really good game last night. She got like 15 points. Oh my gosh. She's always blocking everybody's shit. Sure, defensive player of the year. Could be. But no, I was really proud of her because I feel like she struggled at the beginning of the year. I don't know if she really struggled, but it just took her a minute to get into her flow. And I feel like she's here. She's arrived. I do want to see them in the top eight. I would really like that.
AmandaYeah, I think.
BonnieLet's get fever out of the top eight.
AmandaYeah. Honestly, they suck.
BonnieThey suck.
AmandaBut we'll we'll get to that. We'll get to it.
SPEAKER_02Okay. Okay. So those are the standings. Yep. Let's talk about the lips. Talk about the lips. See, bye.
AmandaWow, we were almost in six. I know. Yeah, it was close. Okay. So, like I said, we're gonna win a streak five, I think.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Hopefully six after tonight.
AmandaTo be honest though, if it weren't for us beating ourselves, we'd be undefeated right now, if we're being so fucking honest. I feel like a handful of games where we were cooking and then we just decided we didn't want to play anymore. Yeah. We like wrapped it up. We were just like, uh, I just want to go home. Yeah. Tough. Really, really, really tough.
BonnieIt's taken us a minute to like fully gel. But Stewie has really been so consistent and such a leader in this on this team.
AmandaYeah, and honestly, like not trying to take away from these other teams that have beaten us so far. I just feel like like I said, we're not trying as hard as we could be sometimes. And it's like it's kind of like all over the place from defense and grabbing boards to just not really looking like we want to be there. Like I haven't been too happy with JJ.
BonnieI think I was gonna say I think you're talking about JJ.
AmandaYeah, yeah. I just haven't like what are we doing? Like, I just feel like I I do feel some of that NBA culture creeping in to the W in the sense of like the bigs now all shooting three-point shots. And I get it, like the game is headed towards like more volume shooters from three, but like we don't have to settle for the three every time you have the fucking ball. And respectfully, babe, you're center. Get in the paint. Yes, get that tall ass in the paint. Get in the paint. If I if I was as tall as JJ, I would be butting everybody out of the paint with my ass.
BonnieI would too. And you know what she also does every time she gets a rebound? She brings it down and like bounces it and then puts it back up. Yeah, for the yeah, the old one. And then she always gets stripped. She gets stripped every single time she brings it down. And I'm like, just keep it up, babe. Just keep it up.
AmandaAnd period. And period. But I don't want to dwell so much on the negatives. So I have one more negative to say.
BonnieOh, oh. Before we move on. Be negative, you know what I mean? Who the hell is Marine Fatou? I've literally never heard of her in my whole life. She stepped on the court last week and I was like, the female, right?
AmandaYeah. Dude, it was crazy because Megan came to that game with me. Shout out, Megan. Shout out. And she was like, oh, like Marine's in the game. And I said, that's not Marine. Who the fuck is that? Yeah. And she was like, no, that isn't. I was like, oh, the other.
BonnieThe other Marine.
AmandaI'm sorry. Also, I just noticed that you have like Frida Kahlo mugs. Yeah. Like just ran across from me. They're looking at you. They are looking at me. I just looked up and there are two sets of Frida Kahlo staring at me. Um, yeah, I don't know who she is. Four eyes, two eyebrows.
BonnieWas that a Two Girls One Cup reference? Yeah.
AmandaI hope some of these listeners are way too young for Two Girls One Cup because My allergies are really kicking in right now. No, they're really bad. Like I've been holding in a cough for like the last 20 minutes.
BonnieYou can mute and cough if you want. That's I'm okay.
AmandaIt's okay. I'm trying not to. Yeah, okay.
BonnieIt's just the allergy method enough. Yeah. You know what I mean? I feel like the I feel like the allergens are evolving to be.
AmandaThey know, they literally are. Because what do you mean I'm not supposed to take more than one Zertec in 2020? Yeah, sorry, I gotta take stop working, bro.
BonnieLike, I gotta OD on Zertec.
AmandaNo, literally, like I was looking it up to see like, can I take Zertec and Allegra? Can I take Allegra and Claritin? And it was just like, well, it does the same thing, so it'll just increase the chances for side effects. I was like, what do you mean if I put more of the same thing in my system, it's not gonna work harder? Like, that doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Like last night. Buddy, last night I took a Zertec, a thousand milligrams of Tylenol, and I also took Robotussin. It was bad. And Robotocin's disgusting. Robotussin is disgusting.
BonnieI don't think I remember the last time I took it.
AmandaI've been like free drinking from the fucking bottle because I can't stop coughing. It's so gross. Um, anyway. Anyway. Back from that, back from that detour. The last negative thing is who the fuck is Martin Fatou? I don't know. Get the fuck off of my team. Yeah.
BonnieGet the fuck out of here. She went in on the court, and like everyone in our section was like, Who was that? And can we please never put her back in again? It was bad. It was bad, bad, bad. She needs to be a development player. She's got some developing teams.
AmandaShe gives more time than Annalie Maley, who is reckless, yes, but she be on that shit on defense. If we gotta sacrifice five fouls because Annalie needs to get in there and rile shit up, she's at least looking at the shot clock.
BonnieMaureen, like fucking dribbled out. I was like, girl, you gotta sit down or I'm I'm gonna come in. Yeah, I mean, they need you out there.
AmandaThey did. Yeah. Okay, positives, positives. We got Bet Nija back from her personal reason of being away from the team. She's not starting, which it's like kind of like a positive and a negative because Christopher, what the fuck are we doing? But Nija should be starting. She is our defensive identity. Without her, we are nothing. I know, I know. And it's pissing me off. And her her man was at the game. He wasn't even paying attention. He was on his phone again. Yeah, I'm just like, if you don't put that phone away and looking kidding, the most beautiful woman on a fucking basketball court right now. It's crazy. It's crazy.
BonnieNot even watching his That's crazy. They're not married, are they? Oh, they are married. She's Lainey Hamilton. That's right.
AmandaI just want him to appear more supportive. Because she's also appear more, I guess. Well, he plays overseas. I know, but all year round? I don't know. I don't know how that works over there for those mid-tier players. I mean, she's in the real shit. She's in the real show. I don't know what the fuck he got.
BonnieThat was a very low-key diss.
AmandaI mean, he is a man. So, you know, just just calling it like it is. I just want him to like seem more present. Like, yeah, she should be out there killing it. She's cooking. She's been frying people, dropping stuff, breaking in.
BonnieAnd if she looks over at you and you're looking at your goddamn phone. Period. And period. I'm gonna tell him next time. Seriously, where did you see him? Where was he seeing him?
AmandaHe sits in the section across from me behind the bench.
BonnieOkay. Cause we always see Martha.
AmandaHave you seen and this is a positive all of the content coming out when she's when she like Stewie gets mic'd up?
BonnieOh. And that too.
AmandaAnd mic'd up content. I'm just like, wow, do I love you? Yeah. She's really cute. She's so sweet. Like seeing her dynamic with Stewie is also really sweet.
BonnieIt makes me like like Stewie more. Like her personality really comes out.
AmandaYeah, because I feel like I don't I guess I didn't feel like I was seeing a ton of Stewie, and granted, I don't watch her podcast, which maybe I will. Yeah, maybe we should. But I don't know. I love that they have Marta on it and how they were doing the who's more this? Yeah who's more that and Stu. I don't know. It's just like it's very interesting to see people with their person because obviously the energy is very different. And you could just tell, like, Stewie just seems like so gentle with her, and it's really sweet.
BonnieHave you watched have you seen the clip where they're talking about like how they met or when who made the first move?
AmandaYeah. She's that's see, like, and that's really sweet. That's usually how I tell my story with with Brenda.
BonnieYeah.
AmandaThat she said no to me a million times because she hated me. So and she's not here to deny it.
BonnieSo sorry, Brenda. Yeah, sorry, Brenda.
AmandaYou have to leave it in the comments. Yeah. That's that's it. Just leave it, drop it in the comments. Um, but yeah, they're really sweet. Um, we also have Leo back. Leo. Um sorry, Leo. Hello. No, it is definitely Leo. Okay. Like, because she's European, she's she's not an American, it's not Leo, it's fine. She's back. Our defensive identity has been restored now that she and B are back. Love it. Even Maureen was playing defense.
BonnieI know. She really stepped up in the last two couple of weeks.
AmandaShe's been trying so hard, and I just want her to succeed.
BonnieShe's not doing the SWAT. No, but you know what?
AmandaI'll tell you what, though, if she can follow somebody and she knows that they're gonna go to the line, you might as well get your fucking money's worth. Smack away. Yeah, smack. Smack away, Maureen.
BonnieThat's her theory, I think. It's like and you know what? It's mine too.
AmandaIt's no easy bet, it's no easy buckets. I will literally chew your ankle off before I let you score on me. I don't think so. But I really appreciate that from her because I feel like she is trying. She's not the world's best defender, but she's trying.
BonnieUm, also, you know who started last game? Hanchu.
AmandaHonestly, just incredible.
BonnieI love Hanchu. She's been doing so well. She's so sweet.
AmandaShe's so sweet. You can just tell that she's also trying and she's also working at it. Like seeing her do her little post moves, and I'm just like, babe, like you're looking around like you're gonna make eye contact with somebody else up there. It's just you up there. Just put the ball up. It's just you and the ball up there, you the ball on the rim.
BonnieLike, just put it in the rim, dunk it, Han.
AmandaShe's so cute. She could dunk it.
BonnieShe could.
AmandaShe's not that. Oh my god, is she next generation's Yao Ming?
BonnieMaybe. When I was watching the Knicks game last night, I was like, you know, Wimby's only like five inches taller than Han.
AmandaWhich is crazy. Which is crazy. He's a he's a giant, ain't he? He's a giant. I'm scared. Well, they're gonna keep grow. They're all gonna start coming out. No, no, no.
BonnieThey're not gonna be all that big.
AmandaOkay, okay. I hope that's it's not possible. No, I'm scared. Imagine you're walking around outside and suddenly all of the men, average height, are seven feet tall. No, no, no. That can't be true. No, no, no. We'll have to start biting ankles for sure.
BonnieI'll have to we're gonna have that, you know that surgery where they extend the yeah, and then we can never play basketball again. We'll have the opposite surgery. Oh, for them.
AmandaYeah, for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's uh take an axe to the shins. Yeah.
BonnieAnd then sew it back.
AmandaOkay, so Han Shu had a great game in Connecticut.
BonnieI think they scored 14 points.
AmandaThey also retired JJ's jersey that game. Yeah. Which, sure. I mean, I'm not saying she didn't deserve it, but like I I don't think I'm super familiar with her career in Connecticut. Did she win something with them?
BonnieI think they won. Oh, they did? Yeah, when Seth White was there. I think they won a championship.
AmandaThat is something I did not know.
BonnieI'm pretty sure. I'm not are you verifying? I'm gonna verify it.
AmandaYeah. They have not won. Oh. They've made finals appearances as recently as 2022.
BonnieI was gonna say, because we played them in the finals and they beat us.
AmandaYeah.
BonnieI think. Or did we beat them? No.
AmandaWe beat Minnesota.
BonnieWell, yeah, in the case. But I meant the year the year 2022.
AmandaBecause we played them. I remember that the city. The sun defeated the Chicago Sky in the semis, but fell 3-1 to the Aces. That was during the Aces dynasty. I'm saying during as if we're not still in it. The sun defeated the sky in the semis and then fell 3-1 to Aces. Okay. That was during the Aces dynasty, as if we're not still in it. Yeah, we're still in it. Yeah. So annoy. Yeah, I don't Do you see what I mean though? Like, why did they retire her jersey? I don't know. I think she won MVP well with them, but like respectfully, that's it. I feel like it takes a lot to retire jerseys.
BonnieThat might have been it. Like, am I crazy? Like, no shade, JJ. No shade. No shade, but I'm really not sure. I'm not familiar with uh her career at the sun.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
BonnieInteresting. Well um, but honestly, maybe they just need good vibes right now. Yeah. Because they're so bad.
AmandaI just like I'm not saying that they shouldn't have, but like right now.
BonnieLike Yeah, it's also like that she hasn't played there in like years.
AmandaAnd she is yeah, but that's what I mean. Like, and she's still actively playing. So I would get like if she retired and she got put into the Hall of Fame and they were like, we're retiring her number. Of course, of course, you have to retire her number. Right. It just felt yeah, it feels like such a choice to do it now. I don't know. Whatever. Whatever. Good for you, JJ. Yeah, good for you. Also, what we have to talk about is nasty A. Nasty A. And let's be clear, Bonnie and Eliza coined that before Stewie said it on the mic. Some people were not mad at you. Yeah. Stewie heard that and was like, Yeah, she heard the podcast. Yeah. She's a listener. Thanks, Stewie. She'd be downloading it. I know it. She does. She's she's cooking, and it's not really even like just one game. She plays like a vet, and she feels like our first true point guard in a while. No disrespect to Natasha Cloud, but you had the worst plus minus.
BonnieYeah, no, she's like a true, true point guard.
AmandaShe's good. Like she knows when to pass it and she knows when to take the shot.
BonnieLike she drives to the bucket, she shoots threes. Yeah. She's got it all.
AmandaNo, she does, and she's an incredible defender. And I think that the reps are bullshit calling all these fouls on her because half the time she's not even fouling.
BonnieI know.
AmandaIt's like so crazy. She's like a nice French girl. She is a nice French girl. She would never foul. And I specifically like I want to talk about how her performance impacted us when we beat the Confederacy in Brooklyn last week when your sister was at the game. Yep. Bro, the boos for once were so loud that I couldn't even hear them announcing the other players.
BonnieIt's so good. We missed that part, but I am so glad.
AmandaOh no, it was like I was heckling and booing so loud so much that I needed a water at halftime. Like the throat was dry. Yeah. It was there were still like I think too many cheers for Indiana, but not nearly as loud as it's been in the past. And it's getting to a point where it seems like all the teams have instructed their players to absolutely fucking cook together to Kate. Like, if she's guarding them, it's no longer we're not running a play. We're not running a pick and roll. It's ISO ball. Yeah, because you can't defend barbecue chicken. Which I was also yelling at her most of the game. I was just like, go get her nasty ate that's barbecue chicken. And then also when Caitlin had the ball, I was yelling, She's wicked, get her. And people in my section really like that. I like that. It was good because you know, I'm like, I'm not trying to be like fucking mean or like yell like hateful stuff.
BonnieI was yelling turnover every time she turned over.
AmandaYeah, I was like, turnover, dammy.
BonnieI was waiting for it to get quiet so she could hear me say, She's wicked, get her. You know what? I think she felt it. I think she felt oh, she was pissed. She was sad, I think.
AmandaBro, like she You know what?
BonnieGood, you're good.
AmandaYeah. I mean, here's the thing like I don't wish for anyone to like be in their feelings or be upset. It's just like you gotta draw the line somewhere when like someone is like promoting and representing such hateful things. Yeah, like and the crazy thing is, is that the other side of this, like, I feel like people who are on the same page with us, like, people aren't even saying hateful stuff. No, like, even though we don't like her, we're not saying hateful stuff, we're speaking in fact, right? Like, which is crazy, like it's such a crazy thing. Yes, it's like nauseating. But shout out to I want to say shout out to Natalie Nakase of the Golden State Valkyries because it was she, she is the one, she's the way, the truth, the light, as some people say about Jesus Christ. What did she say? She was the one who started the barbecued chicken ISO. Oh, really? The all of the Valkyries, as soon as Caitlin was guarding them. It's like they said, no, no, no, everybody get out. Yeah, everybody got the way. I got it. And Nasti A was also cooking, yeah. Like there were two possessions in a row where bro, I was just like, come on, Pauline, give it to her. She's like, didn't she do a euro? Yeah, it was nasty, it was the biggest Euros thing. Like, I was just like, I love when the Europeans do the Euros thing.
BonnieI know it's like it's in their blood or something.
AmandaYeah, it's like poetry. It's like she just knew right then and there, I need to take two, one, two. Yeah. Like she she cooked.
BonnieShe did. Um, that was a really that was really fun to watch.
AmandaIt was. And I think that game, Stewie got really pissed in the huddle because there was one point we were down 12 in the third, and I remember when we went into the when we went into halftime, I was like, I hope Stewie gets in their ass. Like, yeah, what the fuck are we doing?
BonnieThat's what that's what I mean. I feel like Stewie's such a good leader, like she knows the right times to be like, we better win this fucking game, and I know we can, and like everyone get their shit fucking together.
AmandaWell, it has to be so frustrating when you feel like you're playing well, and even when Stewie's not playing well, it's like why why she always gotta be the person to put the team on the back.
BonnieShe always does, always does it.
AmandaLike, can somebody do something? Also, like I'm very curious about what Christopher's doing over there because why the fuck was Marine on the bench for most of the second half? Put her in the game. Yeah, yeah. To be clear, we're talking about Marine Johannes.
BonnieNot Marine Fatu.
AmandaYeah, I don't know her. I don't know. I don't know her. I don't want to know her. Yeah, like I'm all I'm all set. So I don't know what he's doing. I do think that maybe he could be experimenting with the lineups, which brings me to my last point in the C foam spot. Like, when the fuck is Sabrina coming back? Seriously, girl. Is she okay? I guess her back hurts. She looked cute at the game though. I'm not gonna lie. She got the foot off. She looks really cute. But I was just like, girl, if you don't get in that locker room and put your fucking uniform on.
BonnieWe I actually want to see her. What the fuck? My computer just died. Yeah, I don't know why she's not fucking playing. It's kind of crazy. Last time we saw her was a preseason game. And and first it was her ankle, she twisted it, whatever. And then now it's her back, apparently.
AmandaI don't know, man. It's really weird. Alright, I hope she's okay. I hope she comes back soon and then really we'll be on top of the world. Oh, actually, one more thing. What I want to apologize personally to Satu Saboli because I'm not sure I'm ready to apologize yet. I'm apologizing because I still think she could be better, but she has been getting better from game to game. And the one the reason why I have to apologize to her is because it was one play during that Confederacy game. Yeah. You know, during the Civil War. Liberty versus Confederacy. Yeah. Wow, that's kind of poetic. That is. Um, she went up for a lay. Yeah. Made it, got fouled by Sophie Cunningham, and the way she turned around and looked at Sophie Cunningham on the floor and said, fuck you. I said, I was not familiar with your game. I was not familiar. I was just like, please, please inject it into my veins. Fuck you. Yeah. I was like, wow, Satu, tell her, tell her, tell her. Satu can get mad. I like I like I like when the girls get mad. Like, so I'll be telling people how you know that people like Natasha, or not Natasha Cloud, um, like Kalia Copper and Bet Nija. You know them girls are from Philly because before the game even starts, they look pissed. They look like they're on the verge of a crash out because they mean fucking business. Like that game against the fever, B had her hair, I'm pretty sure, in a messy bun.
BonnieYeah.
AmandaOne. And I said, Oh, she got the messy bun, she mad already. She mad already. And then she checked into the game and she already was scowling. And I said, Go get him. Go get him, baby. Fuck him up. Go get him. But yeah, that was the last thing I wanted to say on C Foam Spotlight. I don't know.
BonnieYeah, I am. I will say that Satu has done better the last couple games. Um, but there's still room.
AmandaThere's definitely room for improvement. There's definitely room for improvement, but I I have to I have to tell you that did I I I had some forgiveness in my heart for her after I saw her say fuck you to Sophie. Say yeah, tell her.
BonnieI'm glad she said that, and I hope so Sophie felt that in her fucking bones.
AmandaAnd I think she did. Good. Like, how do you as a player like imagine imagine somebody scores on you and you're on the floor and then you would say fuck you?
SPEAKER_05Like, what do you do in that situation? Like, how do you keep it together?
BonnieI would cry. Like, I'm too weak to play basketball.
AmandaI don't think that's true.
BonnieYou're just you're just so I'm emotionally kind. Yeah, so then I would cry.
AmandaHonestly, like, okay, really, really last thing. Okay.
BonnieOn C Fo spotlight, but like it doesn't have to be the last thing.
AmandaNo, I know, but I'm just like, that was really all I had. I just keep remembering stuff. Like the officiating again was fucking terrible.
SPEAKER_05There was a point where the ref you suck chant was so loud, and I was like, this is what I came for.
AmandaIt's like, I don't know, I just felt so good with like no fever fans in our section, and all of us like it seemed like they were in one section.
BonnieYeah, didn't I feel like that? I was glad. I was like, go be each other.
AmandaI was saying boo um right after they were cheering. They would all get loud for a second, or boom, boo, boo! Just quick ones because I had to conserve, you know. But anyway, I think it's time for overtime.
BonnieFor overtime. Ooh, overtime, overtime, overtime. Alright. I like that one. Let's talk about what happened Monday night in Las Vegas because Asia Wilson just rewrote the record books again. Clock it. Again, again. On Monday night at the Mikkel of Ultra Arena. Asia became the fastest player in the W uh in the history of the W to reach 6,000 career points. She did it in just 278 games. And she didn't just sneak past the finish line, she did it in classic Asia fashion. Um she shot 10 of 19 from the field, made 11 of 13 free throws, and finished with 34 points, 12 rebounds, a career high 9 assists, and 3 blocks. Um 9 assists, which is crazy in a game where she's also dropping 34 and 12.
AmandaThat's damn near triple double.
BonnieI know. There was one point where they were trying to get her one more assist and at the end of the game, but you know, I think fucking Dueloid fucked it up.
AmandaOf course she did.
BonnieShe needs to retire, but that's it. That's a different we'll talk about that on a different podcast. She hit this milestone midway through the fourth quarter, stepping into an uncontested mid range jumper to push Las Vegas ahead eighty six to seventy five. She followed it seven sixty seven seconds later with her third triple of the night to make it ninety two eighty one. The building erupted both times. So now let's talk about the record she broke because this. Is important context. The previous record belonged to Diana Tarasi, who hit the mark in 291 games. Diana is the all-time W leading scorer or scoring leader, as we know. Um, she finished her career with 10,646 points. Um, Wilson beat her by 13 games, and Brianna Stewart Stewart hit 6,293. So Wilson beat both of them by a wide margin.
AmandaThat that's actually crazy. That's actually crazy. They were witnessing greatness.
BonnieI know. Like what's crazier is that like now Asia has 6,04 career points with years of prime basketball still ahead of her. So like Tarasi needed an entire career to get to 10,600, and Wilson's already like more than halfway there, and she's only 29.
AmandaAnd she's just gonna continue to get better.
BonnieYeah, she's not even 30 yet. My god, isn't that crazy?
AmandaShe is literally that fucking girl. She is. It's so like it is so crazy. Like, we are actually witnessing greatness. Imagine, imagine being an Aces fan. Like, imagine that being your hometown, too. And you got the best fucking player in women's basketball. That's that's the best thing about Vegas. No, it's it a hundred percent is. And you know what? Every time I talk to anyone from Vegas, like, even the men, they're like Asia Wilson. Yeah, yeah.
BonnieYeah, I love it. Yeah, that girl. Her coach, Becky Hammond, said it best. She said it feels like she's breaking a record every day, so you almost lose track of them. Nothing surprises me anymore. Tonight she had nine assists. She continues to get better and better. And Wilson herself said, I'm just grateful to be able to do what I do with the people I love. I've seen so many different defenses, different schemes. Yeah, we still show up every single day, ready to work and ready to be great. She's so humble.
AmandaShe is so humble. She's very much team, team, team, team. Never me. Never me. I love that about her. She just seems to be such a great leader. I remember seeing a clip. Um, K Martin was talking about the impact that Asia had on her as a leader, and she was just like, That's cute. Even when we had like a game where she was the only one performing well, it was still we, we need to do this, we need to do that. And she really like took all of that feedback in. Like, and she was like, This is still a team thing, even though I played like out of my fucking mind. Right. Which is like really sick and really sweet because Kate Martin was the team captain of Iowa when she played there. And so yeah, she was a team captain, and so it's really I don't know, it's really interesting to hear her perspective as already being a leader, and then being asked, like, what did you learn from Asia that you're gonna take into like leadership roles moving forward? Which is like really sick. Like accountability is a huge deal, so yeah, agree.
BonnieSo, bottom line is that Asia isn't just the best player in the W right now, she's building a case as the greatest ever.
AmandaAnd she really might already be the greatest ever. And she's not done though. No, so she's the greatest to ever do it. It's just like at this point, just give her the fucking MVP again.
BonnieAlready, like halfway through the season, not even halfway through the season.
Amanda50% of her time in the W, she's been an MVP.
BonnieThat's amazing.
AmandaIsn't that crazy? Yeah, it's actually insane.
BonnieThat's a crazy stat.
AmandaIt is a crazy stat. Wow, that was a great overtime.
BonnieThank you.
unknownOkay.
BonnieAre you ready for 24? I'm ready for 24. Okay, let me get the clock pulled up. Okay, prepare yourself.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
AmandaI think I need to see the time too.
BonnieSo I can't. Yeah, okay. Thanks. Okay, ready? Are you ready? Yeah. Okay. 24 seconds on the clock starting now.
AmandaWhy is it so fucking impossible to watch WNBA games? Why do I have League Pass if I can't even use it to stream shit? Why can I not just watch it on TV? I feel like I have to do fucking math equations just to watch the game. And when I finally get on, the quality is shit. Why does the Mystics camera angle look like it's hanging in fucking oblivion? It's like shooting from fucking Mars. These are million dollar babies, and we need to treat them with respect. Give the fans easy access to watch a stream and make sure that it is in four fucking kid.
BonnieI mean, I totally agree with you.
AmandaOh, it's sickening.
BonnieIt's sick. It's gross. When I turn on ion, when I turn when I turn on ion, the next shit isn't 2G. When I'm looking at Mummy Nun, when I'm watching my nun.
AmandaMy nine actually might be worse than my nine. It's bad. It's really bad. My nine, like, I I like don't even know what to say about it. It's so bad.
BonnieI mean, you know what's better? That's Samsung Galaxy View. Drive off.
AmandaOh my god, it's so, it so is. It's just really frustrating because I'm just like, why am I watching like a game in the 90s? It's so true. It's the 30th season, I get it, but we don't need to go back to the cool.
BonnieYeah, we don't need to like use old camera.
SPEAKER_05No, it's so bad. It's so bad. I think the thing that really the thing that really, really drives me crazy is the Mystics camera.
BonnieYeah.
SPEAKER_05Because why the fuck is the camera in the sky?
BonnieIt is crazy. And they don't even change different angles.
AmandaIt's so bad. Sometimes ESPN or even WMBA, like the app will have like a weird camera angle where it's like it's like the view from like the shot clock. Right. On the stanchion. And I'm just like, on what fucking planet do I need to see this angle?
BonnieYeah, no, I don't. It's so bad. Unless someone's gonna be dunking. It just like literally that's not it, and it doesn't happen. Right.
AmandaI just feel like this is what we talked about before. Scheduling, shit. Planning, shit. Kathy, babe. What are we doing? I know. She needs some help. All those TV deals, and for what? Because I can't even see the shit on TV.
BonnieLike, there's too many deals. I feel like everyone's got a little like five games here, five games there.
AmandaIt's like the NBA, it's like the NBA where they like essentially have made the league pass obsolete because you gotta have Prime, right? You gotta have Peacock, you gotta have ESPN.
BonnieLike, please bring back cable, y'all. I'm so sick of it.
AmandaYeah, get get fucking up and drill into my wall. Yep. Like, let me get the old shit. I'm tired of streaming.
BonnieI have yeah, I agree. I feel like that is where things will eventually end up because it's just like it's unsustainable to have all these fucking different packs.
AmandaOh my god, it's so terrible. That's why you gotta share with friends. That's you've got to. People people gotta have you gotta have one friend that has Paramount, one friend that has Peacock. Maybe you have live TV. Right. Somebody else has WNBA League Pad.
BonnieLike, it's bad. It's bad. And yeah, it's bad. The other day I was watching, yeah, it was the Dallas Lynx game. And I could barely stand it because the announcer or the commentators were so much louder. You know how like you can usually hear the inside of the ring. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, why are they so loud? I can't hear anything else. I looked at Brenda, I was like, Am I crazy? Or is it like muffled? And then did you hear the beep? Yeah. Then it just started going, beep.
AmandaNo, I looked at her and I was just like, Am I imagining this? Like, what the fuck is going on? And she muted the TV and I was just like, that was crazy. That was crazy. It sounded like an Amber alert. This is not going on.
BonnieLike it should not be happening. This is a professional sport. Let's go. They are million-dollar babies. They are million-dollar babies, and they need to and the fucking quality of the game needs to be matched up.
AmandaSo well, that's really all we have for our episode today because Bonnie and I are about to go hoop. We're about to go hoop in real life, because we're also trying to be million dollar babies.
BonnieYep. One day we're gonna be million dollar babies. We will mark mark our words? Mark them.
AmandaOkay. And that has been another episode of Chasing the Wheel