The Mudcat Report: Mississippi Gulf Coast Community News & Guests
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HOST: Hunter Dawkins - Owner/Publisher of the award-winning newspaper - The Gazebo Gazette, SuperTalk Mississippi News contributor, Congressional Staffer, Public Relations for the Attorney General's Office
The Mudcat Report: Mississippi Gulf Coast Community News & Guests
The Mudcat Report Episode 16: Small Business on the Coast
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The Mudcat Report Episode 16: Small Business on the Coast
HOST: Hunter Dawkins - Owner/Publisher of the award-winning newspaper - The Gazebo Gazette, SuperTalk Mississippi News contributor, former Congressional Staffer, former Public Relations for the Attorney General's Office
PRODUCER: Jeff Clark - Award-Winning Journalist, Multimedia/Podcast Host, Director for the Harrison County Senior Services
GUESTS:
- Tyler Kidd - Vice President of Operational Excellence at Senior Aerospace Group, owner of several holding companies, and co-owner of the 9 Toes Brewing Company in Pass Christian
- Barry Dreyfus - CEO of US Marine, Inc. in Gulfport, Ward 1 Alderman for city of Pass Christian.
Welcome to the Mudcat Report, community news, politics, and culture with a local twist. Here's your host, owner and publisher of the Gazebo Gazette, Hunter Dawkins.
SPEAKER_02Good afternoon. My name is Hunter Dawkins, and I am the host of the Mudcat Report, the Mississippi Gulf Coast Community News Podcast. This is the 16th episode sponsored by the Gazebo Gazette, the Harrison County Independent Newspaper, Motor Vaj Resort and Casino in Biloxi, Joseph Kelly, Attorney at Law, O'Duire, Realty Agent, Stephanie Magwitz, and we're always in the U.S. Marine Inc. Studio. I'm here with my wonderful producer of the show, Jeff Clark. Jeff is a well-accomplished award-winning journalist and the director of the Harrison County Senior Services. How are you, my friend?
SPEAKER_10Hunter, I'm well. That's what I thought, man. Yeah. Congrats. Uh congrats for being tenacious and committing to it and continuing to do it week after week.
SPEAKER_02So well, and I think it's an important theme that we have every week. And I really, you know, you and I talked about this, about really themes that we're involving on the Gulf Coast. And I've I've addressed this same topic with a lot of people, including my own child, you know, who's a 16-year-old who wanted to really start getting involved in podcasts. And I said, well, you need to have something that, you know, you're talking about. It's not just a show where you can just get on there and just chat, da-da-da-da. Well, you kind of run out of uh subject and content. So you having a purpose and having a theme, and especially this one this week, Jeff, you know, is very important with the small businesses on the coast.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, absolutely. I'm I'm excited that you have uh Tyler Kidd on, you know, Tyler's Kids and Charlie. We are all good at St. Vincent DePaul. Um, and as someone who lives on Davis Avenue, I love the fact that I love everything going on in the bungalows area. You know, we're we're fans of Coast Casual. We shop there. Um, I I went to Ninetast just for the outside. You know, Matt Crittenden's uh a good friend of mine, and uh Tyler carries Matt's bourbon at uh at the liquor store. So I went down there to meet Matt and Chelsea one night. And uh, you know, it it's great. I'm I'm all about development in the neighborhood, I'm all about options, people having things to do. And uh, you know, I'm certainly grateful to Tyler and Caitlin for uh for for bringing for having that. You know, it's I love Coast Casual, I love being able to shop there, you know, old miss people. I'm not an old miss person, my wife is. So, you know, it's all good. I'm I'm looking forward to it.
SPEAKER_02Jeff, you're a 662 person, and you know, that's that's something you stress. Don't hold that against early on.
SPEAKER_10I'm always proud, always honored to keep my 662 number. So look, man, uh Tyler's in the queue, so I'm gonna go ahead and let you guys get started, and uh, I'll be back at the end.
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SPEAKER_02Now I would like to introduce my first guest, who has a whole lot of titles. Vice president of the Operation Excellence and Senior Aerospace Group, owner of several holding companies, the co-owner of the Nine Toes Brewing Company, two degrees from Ole Miss, and I think the most important thing for Tyler is being a husband and a father to Tyler's kid. Tyler, how do you do, my friend? Doing very well. How are you, sir? Doing great, doing great. In relation to small business, which that's what we're talking about today. I know a part of your niche is giving back to the community. Tell me about how your businesses have done this so far.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I mean, I think um any anything that I do, um, obviously uh family first and then community second. Um, you know, try to figure out unique ways to integrate ourselves in the community um where we can give back and be a part of the community, continue to invest on the coast, uh, continue to provide jobs on the coast. Um, you know, it's something that I pride myself on. And so that's something that um I'm always thinking about.
SPEAKER_02What is your main objective to building a small business like yours and making sure that it's successful?
SPEAKER_08Well, I mean, it depends on the business, but uh I think uh, you know, obviously the main objective is to get some good guys and gals in there uh that are passionate about what they do, um, you know, passionate about the people that they serve and passionate, passionate about the intent that we're trying to go after. Um, you know, you you may not have ever heard this, but you know, when I talk to my guys and gals, talk to the team, you know, I focus on intent first. Um, and if we have the right intent, then good things come from right intent. Um, so making sure that we've got the right intent.
SPEAKER_02Well, now talk to me too, also about you being a little bit in the uh the realtor environment. Uh, with I believe you're with Ellis Group over there, am I correct?
SPEAKER_08Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_02Okay, yeah. Talk to me about that just because I know in the Gulf Coast area, Realty is always booming, at least back and forth every now and then.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. Um, well, we were fortunate enough to pick that up um uh from the Ellis family several, several years ago. Um, that's uh a great business. Um proud to be a part of that team. We've got uh a fantastic uh broker, Ken Harshbarker, uh some fantastic agents that care about the community, care about the coast. And so um, you know, it's good to be involved in real estate for a lot of different reasons. Um, but again, just being able to house that downtown Pass Christian. Um and then, you know, the guys and gals that work there are very uh they're very uh proudful to um be a part of Ellis Realty.
SPEAKER_02Talk to me a little about the the business venture that you have with your wife, Coast uh Coast Casual, at least. I know I keep missing the term on that, but that's okay.
SPEAKER_08I Hunter, I don't I don't care what you call it, I just you know stop in and shop from time to time.
SPEAKER_02That's right, absolutely, absolutely. And I've noticed that you guys really have done a great job of help building that up, that that uh retail market. Talk to me about that.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, so you know, we thought I don't know, it's been a couple years now, um, you know, trying to figure out what the past needed, um what what was uh an area that was underserved, what were somewhere that you know people wanted that they that that they currently didn't have. Um, and so you know, we decided on men's and boys' clothing. Um, you know, I feel like rightfully so, um, women get very represented in that uh category, but there's not a lot of places for you know guys and boys and little boys to go shop. And so um, you know, we want to do something a little different. Uh, there's some really good kids' stores and some really good men's stores, but there's not a lot of places where you can actually buy both. And um, so yeah, uh Coach Casual was created. Um we uh we started that. We had just celebrated our one-year anniversary. As crazy as that sounds, it seems like it's only been three or four months ago. Uh, and and that's been that's been a you know, the community's really got behind us on that. Um, they enjoy going in, hanging out. Uh, I wanted the environment there to be very family friendly, as you can see with a lot of my stuff. I want it family friendly. Um, I want I want everybody to feel welcome. I don't want it to be stiffy. Um, you know, I want I want I want them to have fun in there. So um that was that was something we we were really excited about, and it's been really good.
SPEAKER_02Talk to me now the last business uh thing that we're gonna talk about of your own personal business, but what uh talk to me about the nine toes factory. I know that I've put out some stuff, you know, along with your team, has really put together some great press releases and pictures and all this and that and the other. But talk to me about what your plan is with that new business as the brewing companies, it's a great, great project, at least in a business that I think the Pascus definitely needs.
SPEAKER_08Well, can I do a shameless plug before we get into that? Absolutely. We've actually uh we're actually opening coastal chic, uh, which is a fancy word for coastal chick. So we've got a lot of feedback that the the women want something, an at-leisure store that they can go in where they've got you know clothing for you know little middle-aged women, you know, you know, something that fits everyone, not just the traditional uh higher-end boutique. So we're actually opening that over uh in Hayden Square next to Walmart. I think we'll probably go live with that in the next 30 days or so. So it'll be all the same brands that you uh you know at Coast Casual, uh, but in women's style. So we're essentially going to do a copy paste. The majority of the brands that we carry will actually carry there. Um, you know, it's an at leisure store that that a lot of people are excited about.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. That sounds like a great project. I know there's some good business uh business groups over there with Derek Doodle designs and the liquor store and things as such.
SPEAKER_08So yeah, yeah, so we're excited about that. As far as Ninto's, uh, you know, we're super thrilled with Ninto's again. We wanted uh family first, we wanted something that everyone could enjoy. Uh that's something that you know Jordan and I talked about from the very beginning. We've we've talked about quite quite often. Um, you know, we want people to come to that area and not have a reason to leave. And the the thing that makes me the the most proud is, you know, I think I've been there a couple of times where I've seen three generations, you know, out on the front porch drinking beer, um having some fun, letting the kids play. Um, you know, dads are inside golfing, mom's at the salon next door. Um, you know, they're shopping right down the street, everyone's there, everyone doesn't have a reason to leave. Um, and we've also got some fantastic beer. Um I don't think I've gotten any negative feedback on the beer. Um, I hired one of the, well, the actual best brewer out of the state of Alabama. He's won multiple awards, actually, won Brewer of the Year. He's won Brewer of the Year in the state of Alabama multiple times, and so relocate, relocated him down here. Um he his he started back in December as we were putting the final touches on, and uh he makes a fantastic product that everybody enjoys, and so it really the whole thing really came together. We got a fantastic beer, fantastic product, um, an environment that everybody can enjoy and have fun. And so it's exactly what I wanted.
SPEAKER_02How does your relationship with local government officials matter to you in this little small business world?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I mean, I think uh local business, um, you know, they're the they're the heartbeat of small business. I mean, they um they help us, um, you know, they provide feedback when we need it, and when we need something done, um, you know, it goes in front of the board and goes in front of uh the mayor. And um, you know, you know, if we need something, you know, if it makes sense for the city, if it makes sense for um the constituents, it you know, that makes sense for all of us. So um not only government officials, but you know, local patrons. I I try to keep the same relationship with everyone.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely. Final question for you, my friend. Where do you see yourself and your businesses in five years?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I I think hopefully still continuing to contribute to the community, um, still making people happy, still providing value for the coast and the places that I invest outside of the coast. Um you know, you can't make everyone happy every time, but hopefully we're we're hitting the mark at some point and still providing some value to the people that support us and um continuing to adapt to our patrons, um, listening to feedback and changing when needed, and uh continue to make um the guys and gals that support us happy and and continue to support us.
SPEAKER_02How much do you have your career background in engineering? How much is that a little bit involved with your day-to-day life format?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, so I've got a couple engineering degrees. I haven't actually done engineering in probably 12 to 15 years. Um, the majority of my day job is multi-site management. Uh, so currently I think I manage 22, 23 sites across the globe. Um so I think the engineering aspect of it, probably not so much, maybe a little bit in regards to just being able to critically think through a problem. Um, but I think the being able to manage teams, being able to manage people, and you know, treating your guys and gals fairly, um, I think that plays a big part in how I run my businesses on the coast.
SPEAKER_02Well, my friend, tell everyone how they can get in touch with you if they want to reach out and uh find where to go, have uh either a uh a nice brew, a nice hangout, or just you know, just in general.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I think the uh the the best place to reach me is uh come into nine toes and and grab a beer, and I'm sure you'll see me in there at some point and would love to catch up and get your feedback and get to know you a little bit better. Um so I'd say, yeah, stop in and uh I'll be in and out of there for the most part. So stop in, grab a beer or uh a non-alcoholic beer, or you know, grab a cup of coffee from Darren next door, and uh we can catch up.
SPEAKER_02Thank you, my friend. You take care of yourself.
SPEAKER_08I appreciate it, Hunter.
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SPEAKER_02The Gazebo Gazette is Harrison County's only independent newspaper publishing news from the Gulf Port to Bay St. Louis every Friday. Hi, this is Hunter Dawkins, owner of the Gazebo Gazette. If you're looking for local news without the hassle of sorting through story after digital story, log on to thegazeboGazette.com. Add your name to the digital audience of 250,000 plus coastal residents who already know where to find the stories that matter to them. We welcome our final guest, the CEO of U.S. Marine Inc. in Gulfport and Pastor Jan Ward One Alderman, Barry Dreyfus. Barry, let me ask you a question. How does, and I know that you know there's probably tons of people that have asked you this question, but since we're going on the theme of small businesses on the coast, let me ask you this question. How do city business how does city business differ from your work in Gulfworth?
SPEAKER_09You have a couple of hours, Hunter? Thanks for uh bringing me on tonight, Hunter. It's interesting because it's two different cultures. You know, you've got politicians um who have been in place for a long while in the city, they know a lot, and I'm just catching up with that type of business. Whereas at USMI, I've been there almost 30 years, and we've got a culture of you know people that have to make a living, and you know, the different families that you can impact directly. So you know, I guess with city it's the big picture, and with business, it's a small picture at some time.
SPEAKER_02Do you use mechanisms for both? You know, is there serve something that you do in your business that you directly try you attempt at least to work with in a uh maybe it's the finances something is said for the city.
SPEAKER_09You know, the city's got a great team. You know, Mayor Torgenson is a breath of fresh air. Kenny is a true individual who has been in government for a long while. He knows a ton of history, but he's got a great heart. You know, marrying governor or city clerk, just unbelievably talented in finance. Um I I tell my friends all the time, if I'd have known that she was gonna get the city's finances back um in such a good way, I probably would have not run. Um the other alderman, everybody's been working hard for the city. And the thing is, it's I said at a couple of meetings, when we're giving money out or we're allowing people to use our facilities, we're not getting anything in return sometimes, tangible money. Where at USMI, a guy works an hour and we're getting paid for that work. Um, sometimes we obviously do investment in products for the future, but most of the time when we do something, we need to get paid, otherwise, we get out of business. So reconciling that has been my biggest challenge with the city. It's just you're you're giving something to the public. The Mardi Gras, New Orleans obviously does not get paid for by the parade fees, just like St. Paul's Carnival does not pay all of our expenses with the donation they give. But the intangibles, the sales tax, the goodness that it spreads in the community, how do you put a price on that? I can put a price on a boat, but I can't put a price on those type of things.
SPEAKER_02What's the ultimate model used that you would say if you're getting up and and giving like a uh a TED talk? What's the ultimate model used between owning a successful business and attempting to build a successful city?
SPEAKER_09Culture. I mean, US Matter values or family, integrity, quality. I think the values of the city right now is do the right thing for the residents. So the commonality there is do the right thing. And I think both can be very successful if you are unselfish and do the right thing for all the people. You know, God says you'll get your alms in heaven, not on this earth. So don't do it for credit, just do it for the right thing.
SPEAKER_02How important is education and vocational training, not only in your business, but that of the city as well?
SPEAKER_09Huge. Um for the vocational training at USMI, we've got a ton of kids coming out of school who don't go to college but are going to make a very good living over time. I think the schools are doing a great job teaching morals. And if you can get to work on time, pass a drug test, read and write, you'll be able to get a job. When you get a job, you'll be able to be a good citizen of the city. So I can't directly say Pass High Course X will get you a job in the city, but I can tell you Pass High produces great residence for the city of Pass Christiane. And it's up to us as a business to evaluate those people and to you know get them while he while we can. They're really, really good kids.
SPEAKER_02What's the major factor in building a successful small business for you?
SPEAKER_09Culture. I go back to culture. Culture beats strategy all the time in the big picture, in the macro picture. In the micro picture, though, I was a CFO of USMI for a long while, the chief financial officer. And my dad always said, When you make a dollar, you're looking at the pennies. When you make $10, you look at the pennies. When you make $100, you look at the pennies. Always know where the money's going. And with my accounting background and my passion for numbers, I think it's served me well and it served this business well. And that culture in the business has done a good job with all of us working together and the ability to communicate to everybody when we make a mistake. Number one, if we make a mistake, people die because we're a military contractor. But if we make a mistake, our product costs more money. When it costs more money, we may be beat by our competition. So we need to do it right the first time, because it takes a lot more money to do it two times. And we need to find innovative ways. At USMI, we have a program where we give out money for new ideas. And we just gave out a few hundred dollars last Thursday for some ideas. So, you know, to answer your question, it's culture, but then it's watching the money you spend and spend it wisely.
SPEAKER_02Final thing, uh Barry, when you talked about the culture and you you expressed uh you know, a if if possible, your business, if you make a mistake in the military, it's gonna cost money. Relate that to your city, the city business, the mistakes that are made in the city business, how is that affecting the residents of the community?
SPEAKER_09I don't want I don't want to say that's a tough question. It's it's hard to answer with without disparaging the previous administration. And I think Jimmy Rafferty has a good heart, but financially he crippled the city. Um that culture of keeping a surplus versus spending a surplus, and we spent over a million dollars, approximately a million dollars matching private investment in our city. I don't think we need to supplement anybody to invest in past Christianity. We're past Christianity. We don't we shouldn't do that. So that type of culture of paying people to invest in the city, that shouldn't be done.
SPEAKER_02Absolutely, absolutely. Thank you very much, uh Alderman or Barry or Alderman. Barry, Barry. But also to let everybody know how they can contact you and uh how if they have any questions about any of this information you got.
SPEAKER_09Yeah, I mean, they anybody can always reach me on my cell phone. If I'm around the city, please don't hesitate just to stop me. I mean, obviously, if I'm at dinner with my wife, there's sometimes that you know we'd like our private time, but I signed up for this, and that means that you know I'm in for the long haul and I serve people. My email is bdreyfus at pastchine.ms.gov.
SPEAKER_02We thank you very much, Alderman, Barry, Mr. Dreyfus, whatever you give. Absolutely. Take care of yourself.
SPEAKER_01Thank you very much, Hunter. Appreciate it. The following is a paid advertisement by O'Dwyer Realty Agent Stephanie Mankowitz. Call Stephanie today at 228-563-0471 for all your Realty needs.
SPEAKER_02And here we are talking about Realty again with our O'Doire Realtor Agent sponsor, Stephanie Mankowitz. Let's talk about the tips this week from Stephanie about what realtors should be doing for you.
SPEAKER_04Thank you, Hunter. As always, it's a pleasure to review realtor topics and uh hopefully it helps people, right? So, what should we do we should we be doing for you, the buyer or the seller? First thing I would say is, and it's in the actual disclosure everybody signs when they work with an agent, is ensure all parties are represented fairly and honestly. It's called fair and honest dealings. And if I'm helping you or anyone out before I can even show you a house, you know, you sign that disclosure, and it's not even a contract, it protects you as a person, and I'm supposed to explain that for him to you and say, hey, before we do anything real estate, I am licensed, I am liable, I am here to help you, give you fair and honest dealings, get the most I can for your house, confidentiality. I'm not gonna, if you're a seller, I'm not gonna tell people your bottom line, that's a secret. So, um, so we'll start with that. The first thing is that we are fair, and sometimes realtors get a bad rap, and sometimes there's realtors that have caused that. But uh, I know I'm one of the realtors that considers myself pretty by the book and just trying to solve the problem. I just want to be part of the solution, right? So if you're selling a puppy or Avon, whatever it is, there's liabilities when you're selling a house times three times ten. Okay. All right, well, I would say uh another thing we do, we we make sure that the people who maybe they were they've never sold a home before or they've never bought a home before, we make sure that we weed through the shaky buyers or the sellers, buyers that maybe aren't a good idea to deal with, we can see problems coming before they start when a realtor's been doing this 10 years. And if it is a buyer, we're also looking for sellers that might be a problem. You know, if we're putting in a really healthy offer and it's like full price or near full price, and then we hear there's a multiple offer situation, it doesn't mean you panic. You know, sometimes you leave your offer right where it is, even though there's other offers. So we're making we're weeding through the shakiness and the things that come up that seem unpredictable. And one of the other unpredictable things, like for sellers, is you know, they get an offer and it's got 10 contingencies on it, and the price looks great, and they say they're cash, but there's all these contingencies, so um, you know, you're not you're not really aware how much we help you until you actually deal with a good realtor. That's one thing I would say, and and we want to help them determine the value that's correct if they're selling.
SPEAKER_02What are some of the things that determine the value?
SPEAKER_04Oh, okay, that's a good one. Let's start with location, you know the old saying, location, location, location. All right. Uh, let's start with what are things selling for around you? If you're in a nice neighborhood and and you think your house is a castle, we all kind of feel like that when we love our home. Doesn't mean it's worth three times what the market says. Uh so people will hear realtors say, well, the market says your house is worth this. And some sellers don't want to accept that. No, no, it's it's got to be worth more. I've got a double granite countertop, I've got a fountain that shoots out gold in the backyard, and I've got three kittens with it. So I think I should get a hundred thousand more. And we have to rein people in and say, I love your kittens, I love your granite. In the last year in your neighborhood, people have paid this amount, and though, and that's where we start thinking like an appraiser. So we're like, okay, wait, we can go out two miles and look at the last sales in the last year within two miles of this property, and we can see what people have been paying. And we also look at the square footage, and that's really important, Hunter, because if your house is 2,000 square feet and you saw one sell for a million and it had 3,000 square feet, and you're like, Well, mine's worth that too. You're a thousand square feet smaller, so I can't even count that house as a comparable sale, right? When we determine the value, it is the critical, probably the most critical thing we do as your listing agent, because that price is the first thing they see, just like the pictures. And if we priced you so high that you seem ridiculous, they're not coming. And then guess who you don't like? Me, the realtor. You don't like me anymore. So I'm kind of an upfront realtor. I think a lot of us are after we've been in a while. And we say, look, in all honesty, right now, this is what the market says your house is worth. Other things we're gonna help you with is um determining what is the inside of the house worth. Um, appraisals are gonna change next year uh across the country, and there will be different data inputs into determining what your house is worth. So we're gonna be on top of that. Um, and so if you're trying to sell on your own, you know, we can be really helpful and deal with all these unexpected things that happen when you try to uh sell on your own. Um and you know, we've talked about sellers a lot, so okay, I'm just gonna put this out there. If you're thinking of selling on your own, the some of the things we're doing for you, the seller, to make it easier is photos, professional photos. We pay for those. A lot of our photographers have drones. We're taking the calls because it's our number on the sign. So if it's a looky loo, it's not an ideal buyer. We've got our radar out there, so we're taking that hassle, you know, out of it.
SPEAKER_02If you are thinking about selling on your own, maybe ask Steph. If you would like to talk to Stephanie to help determine your next steps, call today at 228-563-0471, or call her at the office and ask for Steph at 228-452-4242. Steph has the latest information to help you get through the process with reasonable expectations. Again, that's 228-563-0471 to speak directly with Stephanie. We gratefully appreciate you listening to this podcast, and we thank you again, Jeff. It was a great show, and I think it's only going to get it better. Great guests, really good subject. We talked about, and uh, you know.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, it was a great, great episode, great, great show tonight.
SPEAKER_02So absolutely, absolutely. And make sure to follow us on the gazeboazette.com, where the podcast will be posted sometime this week, as well as on facebook.com backslash the real gazeboette. Additionally, as Jeff often says, the Mudcat is on all podcasts: Apple, Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, under the tag the Mudcat Report. And we ask that you download, yeah, that's right, download so you can listen to it as much as possible, and also you can write us reviews. Hopefully, we'll get some good reviews. We thank you very much, Jeff, as always. And now you know the rest of the local story. Good night.