The Mudcat Report Episode 18: Live from 9 Toes Brewing Company

The Mudcat Report Episode 18:  Live from 9 TOES Brewing Company

HOST:  Hunter Dawkins -  Owner/Publisher of the award-winning newspaper - The Gazebo Gazette, SuperTalk Mississippi News contributor, former Congressional Staffer, former Public Relations for the Attorney General's Office

PRODUCER:  Jeff Clark - Award-Winning Journalist, Multimedia/Podcast Host, Director for the Harrison County Senior Services

GUESTS:

• Tyler Kidd - Vice President of Operational Excellence at Senior Aerospace Group, owner of several holding companies, and co-owner of the 9 Toes Brewing Company in Pass Christian
• Kaitlyn Kidd - Co-Owner of Coast Casual
• James Sumpter - Master Brewer 9 TOES Brewing Company
• Tai Miskimen - Manager 9 TOES Brewing Company

Transcript

SPEAKER_10 0:07

Welcome to the Mudcat Report, community news, politics, and culture with a local twist. Here's your host, owner and publisher of the Gazebo Gazette, Hunter Dawkins.

SPEAKER_04 0:23

Good afternoon. My name is Hunter Dawkins, and I am the host of the Mudcat Report, the Mississippi Gulf Coast Community News Podcast. This is the 18th episode sponsored by the Gazebo Gazette, Harrison County's independent newspaper, the Beau Revage Resort and Casino in Biloxi, the Nine Toes Brewing Company in Pascrashan, who is our host today, and Joseph Kelly Attorney at Law, O'Doire Realty Agent, Stephanie Makowitz, Coast Casual, the Rotary Club of Paskerchans, Paddle the Bay Fundraiser, and we're always in the U.S. Marine Inc. Studio. I'm here live from the Nine Toes Brewery Company in Pasker's Chan with the wonderful producer of the show, my friend Jeff Clark. Jeff is a well-accomplished, award-winning journalist, director of the senior services. How are you, my friend?

SPEAKER_15 1:24

I'm well, Hunter. This is what what a great day. Glad to be here at Nine Toes Brewing Company, down in the bungalows area of Pass Christiane. You know, in uh in Alabama football, there's a term for people who are like diehard Alabama fans. They call them gumps, you know, from Forrest Gump, because Forrest Gump in the in the book and in the movie went to the University of Alabama. So I'm kind of a gump for Pass Christian. You know, like I live a couple of blocks away in downtown Pass. I love having this here. I love this whole area. You know, you're you got the great view. We're in the Golf Simulator Room uh recording this podcast, and you got the great view looking outside with all the kids playing and all the people having a good time. Uh it's a beautiful Sunday afternoon. So, you know, I I want to thank Caitlin and Tyler Kidd for having us letting us do this from here, but also for all of the investment, investment that they are putting into our community and just making it a better place.

SPEAKER_04 2:25

Absolutely. And we're gonna have both of them on here as guests because I really want to highlight this brewery and how it's really adding some great, great things to our to our area, and it's definitely not only economic development, it's really just helped driving the force of you know having families living here. And I think this brewery is a great thing. Everybody says, well, it's a brewery, you know, Hunter, you know, is this just a bunch of beer? Uh I don't really think so, Jeff. If you look outside, you can see at least 20 to 30 kids.

SPEAKER_15 3:02

Yeah, you know, I I think Tyler's been, both of them have been very open and you know, on point about this is a family place, you know. Um just in the few minutes we've been here, I've seen Ms. Church, you know, the the principal at Charlie School, my friend Stafford's here. There's kids playing everywhere. It's a it's a it's a great thing. And uh, you know, it improves our quality of life for those of us who live in Pass Christian or on the west coast uh of the Mississippi Gulf Coast, and for the for the whole Gulf Coast as an entirety, you know, we're grateful to have things like this, have these opportunities, and uh just an awesome day.

SPEAKER_04 3:41

Absolutely, Jeff. And I think we definitely are gonna keep we're gonna build that uh that foundation here with the discussions, and I really want to find out the intricacies of the brewery, and that's what we're gonna talk about today.

SPEAKER_15 3:54

Yeah, the only they got you and I they got us stinking it up here, right? Like that's the only only bad stuff. There's nothing bad happening here. Um certainly glad for this opportunity, and uh let's go ahead and get into our commercial break and we'll get right back with our guests.

SPEAKER_03 4:09

Grab your paddle and join the fun at paddle the bay, hosted by the Rotary Club of Pass Christian. Mark your calendar for Saturday, June 13th, from 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. at Hederson Point Park, right at the base of the Bay Bridge. Paddle the Bay or explore the bayou while enjoying a day filled with food, music, and community spirit. Celebrate more than 100 years of service and consider donating $100 or more to support a great cause. Plus, compete to win gold, silver, or bronze paddles and prizes by raising the most funds. For more information, go to the Rotary Club of Past Christianne's Facebook page. Don't miss paddle the bay, where fun meets purpose on the water.

SPEAKER_13 4:54

Looking for effortless style on the coast? Discover Coast Casual in the Pass, your locally owned men's and boys' boutique. Coast Casual offers a mix of coastal and southern-inspired clothing, accessories, and gifts, perfect for everything from laid back days to dressed-up nights. Known for quality and standout customer service, it's style made easy. Find Coast Casual at 100 West Scenic Drive in the Pass or visit CoastcasualMS.com. Coast Casual Relax Style starts here.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

9 Toes Brewing Company is a Gulf Coast destination for craft beer, great food, and interactive entertainment. Enjoy a rotating selection of small batch brews, a menu of comfort food favorites, and state-of-the-art golf simulators featuring world-famous courses. Whether you're meeting friends or just unwinding after work, 9 Toes delivers a laid-back atmosphere with something for everyone. Located at 110 West Scenic Drive in the Pass, Nine Toes is your spot for bold brews, big swings, and better nights. For more information, please go to 9oesbrewery.com.

SPEAKER_04 6:07

A man that I've in his establishment here, that it's something that I really enjoy, and I think a lot of you will enjoy the Nine Toes Brewing Company. Tyler Kidd, who's also the owner of several holding companies, but he's also a realtor, and uh that being a husband and a father, and he's got two degrees from Ole Miss, so I should say Hadi Toddy to you. Yeah, absolutely. We will walk in. Tyler, it's good to talk to you. How are you, my friend?

SPEAKER_08 6:34

Doing very well. It's a beautiful day. Uh out here on the patio with a bunch of kids playing and uh some parents and enjoying some coffee and some uh adult beverages. It's a beautiful day out here.

SPEAKER_04 6:46

And that's a segue. You know, I know you and Caitlin both talked to me about wanting this to be a family level place because when you hear the title brewery, especially around here, the first thing you think of, well, we go have some beers and things like that.

SPEAKER_08 7:02

Yes, you can, but yeah, yeah, we wanted uh an atmosphere where you didn't have to want to drink beer. Uh, you know, I've told people all along we can be your second, we can be your third choice, we can be your fourth, fourth choice. Uh stop in, grab some ice cream, uh, grab some good food in the neighborhood, do some shopping, and then you know, grab a beer while you're hanging out uh in the compound. So yeah, I think that uh I think that vision finally came together.

SPEAKER_04 7:30

And as we spoke about a few weeks ago in the small business stuff, what with that theme, what's is this the feeling that you want all the time, or do you want something as far as events coming around? Do you I know you have an event coming up and you can talk about that, the veterans uh fundraiser that you guys have had for the last few years. I remember you doing you guys really getting involved in that a few years ago. Just tell me about what exactly you're you're trying to bring back to the community.

SPEAKER_08 8:03

Yeah, so I I think there's a couple answers in there. Um yeah, we want to have some events here, so we do have live music every Friday and Saturday night. We are starting next week, starting live music on Sunday, uh, to again bring the moms and dads and the people that don't have kids something to come and enjoy our yard, our venue. Um we're starting to block the street off here a little more often, doing some more block parties down here. Uh so we've got some of those events planned. Uh, you know, we had a little horse race yesterday uh where the kids got on some uh stick ponies and we rolled some dice and kind of moved up uh like a game of chess, if you will. So yeah, try to do some fun events there. Uh, you know, maybe a hot dog eating contest at 4th of July, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 8:51

Did a female win? Because I know the female trainer was the first one to win there.

SPEAKER_08 8:56

Well, I don't I don't actually know who won. Uh yeah, and yeah, the flip female trainer won, and then yeah, Renegade fortunately got second, but anyway, that's a different story.

SPEAKER_04 9:05

That is a different one.

SPEAKER_08 9:06

Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, some fun events, uh trying to block the street off more often, doing some again, we've got a lot to bring uh to the community down here, and uh yeah, really accident and highlighting that.

SPEAKER_04 9:21

Talk to me too. Is is this your I mean, are there any other businesses that you're developing around the community? Maybe not in Pascrashan, maybe in Pascushan, something as such, because I've heard some some good rumors out there, but you know, me being a newsman, I never really like to lock my eyes on rumors.

SPEAKER_08 9:39

So yeah, we've got uh we've got some pretty fun stuff in queue for 2026. Some stuff that I have announced. Uh I think we're gonna talk about today. Uh the introduction of the female version of Coast Casual called Coast Chic. If you're fancy, if you're me, you just call it Coast Chick. Um both work, you know, as long as you're in there shopping. So yeah, Caitlin's in here now. She's gonna be uh talking about that and launching that probably in the next six weeks or so.

SPEAKER_04 10:08

Yeah, that's definitely something that I want to talk to her about too. Not only with that, but about Coast Casual, because it's very impressive the work that she's done and that y'all have. Obviously, you know, I kind of wish I'd had y'all on the sports show because we have so many different sports activities here with the golfing community and things and such. But just talk to me about what the the imagination of this idea of golf and TVs and things being involved with that.

SPEAKER_08 10:38

Yeah, so you know, when when Caitlin and I first started talking about Coast Casual, we wanted something that people felt comfortable. Um we wanted something that people could come in, relax. If they shopped, fine, if they didn't find. And so, yeah, when we would started designing Coach Casual, we wanted some couches, we wanted TVs, we wanted real coffee and adult coffee, um, be able to grab a beer and shop uh and drink a beer. So uh yeah, we wanted that, and then that that kind of bleeds into the vision here, right? Where it's family first, um, you know, it's it's very sports uh focused. Uh so in this building here, I think we've got 16 TVs or something like that. Uh so you can watch any game at any time. Uh so yeah, I think the vision for both are very, very similar.

SPEAKER_04 11:29

Also, too, talk to me about as far as the your relationship with uh with the local government. I know we spoke about that last time, but as far as not only uh getting your permits and all that, but as far as we're reaching out to them and having them involved in activities going on throughout the city.

SPEAKER_08 11:54

Yeah, they're super helpful. Uh you know, our local elected officials, uh, I would say the city of Pastor Christian is uh very business first. Uh they try to make things easy on us. Uh they try to support not only from uh a government perspective but just at a personal level. You know, I think uh the majority of the ottermen and otter women have been in here. Uh the mayor has been in here, they they support all of our local stuff. Uh so I appreciate that more than I appreciate any uh help politically just you know supporting us and um being a part of what we're trying to build here.

SPEAKER_04 12:30

Talk to me a little bit about your realty market. Where uh where are you going with that? What properties? Because I know people are probably not too familiar, they're probably more familiar with the Ellis as a whole. Yeah. But what uh what properties are you guys focused on mainly?

SPEAKER_08 12:48

Yeah, well, I mean I'm not gonna divulge that. I'm not gonna divulge that on air.

SPEAKER_04 12:52

Is it a buyer market or is it a seller? I mean, what what are you guys doing?

SPEAKER_08 12:54

I'm joking with the fire for the market. Uh yeah, I think um, you know, interest rates, uh everyone's still watching interest rates. Uh, you know, we've had a really high interest rate on the last couple years that is starting to level back out. Uh so it's turning more into uh a fair market, I would say, at this point. Uh you know, multifamily commercial is still a really big segment that I'm trying to grow and and I think uh will continue to grow on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. Um, you know, Ellis Ellis is a great brokerage. Uh we've got some fantastic agents there. We've got a fantastic broker, Ken Harshbarger, who runs that business uh very, very well. Uh so yeah, I think uh it's a really good time to invest on the Mississippi Gulf Coast from a real estate perspective.

SPEAKER_04 13:42

Awesome, awesome. Talk to me about the I've heard about a music fest happening here sometime soon. Do you mind sharing with me?

SPEAKER_08 13:50

Yeah, so every this will be our third annual uh fishing tournament that we've had. Yeah, uh so uh it's called Hook 'em for Heroes.

SPEAKER_04 14:00

Yeah, I was gonna say that's in version of the veterans, correct?

SPEAKER_08 14:03

That's correct. So yeah, so uh we're a 501c. Um every bit of the money that we've raised the last three years has gone back into the community. We give the city a fair amount of money, we give local veterans a fair amount of money, and a lot of organ organizations uh really, really big checks every year. So nothing against you know local charities, but a lot of times when we have those, you know, the board gets paid, members get paid, you know, there's advisory fees and all that. Um we started that we said absolutely not, we're not gonna take any money out, all the money's gonna go back, which has allowed us to do some pretty cool stuff in the community, uh, which is starting this year. Uh so we're we're actually going we're actually going to invest some of that money uh into some really big bands and bring JJ Gray and the Mofro brand in, uh Mark Broussard, Anders Osborne, uh Honey Island Swamp Band.

SPEAKER_04 15:05

These are guys I've heard from Jazz Fests.

SPEAKER_08 15:08

Yeah, yeah, so we're spending a lot, a lot of money this year on big name bands in hopes of doubling down and being able to raise even more money for the community. And so it's a free concert. So it's gonna be held right out here on the street. We're gonna block the street now. Uh we'll have food, we'll have obviously some alcohol, some really good nine-toast beer, uh, and then all the good food from around here. Uh, and that's just the headliners. Uh, we're we're thinking about having 11 or 12 artists uh over the culmination of Friday and Saturday. Uh so it will be a true free music fest for the residents of Mississippi Gulf Coast.

SPEAKER_04 15:45

I don't think you guys are gonna have that big of a problem with blocking it off since the police uh chiefs, you know, stores right next door. So Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 15:53

I I think uh yeah, I I've met before I really communicated, you know, I'm I wanted to meet with Darren and Diamond and make sure that you know we were doing everything exactly how they wanted to do. Uh you know, our main concern with having you know six or seven thousand people uh in this area right here is safety. Uh we wanted to make sure that we were double or triple barricading uh the roads, that we had no issues there. Uh so we kind of walked through that, made sure that we were we were crossing all the T's, dotting all the I's, if you will, for from a safety perspective.

SPEAKER_04 16:24

Well, Tyler, is there before before you leave, is there anything that you want to announce to going on that people just other than just coming out here and enjoying their time?

SPEAKER_08 16:34

Yeah, I think um uh stay tuned. I I would say follow us on Facebook, especially as it relates to nine toes. Uh we just launched uh new beer this Friday, uh a new IPA, uh something that's not quite so big, but still has a little bit of punch. Uh next Friday we've got another release. So we're uh releasing a jalapeno margarita uh ghost, uh, which has been really, really popular in the past. And so we'll be releasing that on Friday. And uh yeah, we got some fun stuff coming up, so I would say yeah, just continue to watch and see what we got going on.

SPEAKER_04 17:09

That's good because now I'm gonna have some more questions for the harbor master or the harbor brewer, uh, the master brewer, uh Jimmy. I'll have some good questions for him on that.

SPEAKER_08 17:19

Well, you need to ask him some really tough questions. I mean, he's got a really, you know, he's got a fun job making beer all day. You need to ask him some tough questions.

SPEAKER_04 17:25

Absolutely, my friend. Hey, we thank you very much. You take care of yourself.

SPEAKER_08 17:29

Thank you, sir.

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SPEAKER_04 19:10

On to the spouse of the better half of the last guest, I would think, Kaelin Kidd, the co-owner of Coast Casual. Caitlin, talk to me about being an owner of a men's clothing store and what is your goal to have a successful business model for others to look after.

SPEAKER_02 19:30

Sure. Um, so the men's clothing store came about one day because I went out to try and find Tyler's shirt, and I couldn't find any good variety anywhere near us. I didn't want to drive all the way over to Gulfport. I didn't uh want to drive into Slidell. So I we were driving over to New Orleans one evening for um like a date weekend, and I said, you know, I couldn't find a shirt for you. Like we should just open a men's clothing store and tell her I was like, all right, let's do it. And that was how this began. Um and you know, selfishly with my husband and then two boys, I you know, ha created a store to clothe them. Um so that that worked out. But the whole goal with Postcasual was bringing something to uh Pass Christian that was more accessible than going you feel like you when you have to go shop, you have to go to Gulfport or you have to go into Louisiana, and and wanted to make sure that we had something here with this community to be able to um to bring that here. Um and then just in terms of I grew up in Ocean Springs, so Pass Christian, I feel like is what Ocean Springs used to be like uh when I was growing up, which was amazing. And so I love living here, and I wanted something that was um really, really community friendly and really family friendly, and just that ease of um access for everybody.

SPEAKER_04 20:54

It's funny that you were saying that because there were a lot of people before the storm had probably interaction about to retire and that being said, um talk to me about what people and brands are you attempting to attract.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

Yeah, well, our our main brand is Properly Tied. So they're actually um based out of Oxford, Mississippi. Tyler and I both went to Ole Miss, so it it was nice to hear those stories exactly. Haddy totty. Um it was nice to hear those stories um of where these brands come from. So Properly Tied is our our biggest brand. We um we are the only store, I believe, on the coast that carries both men's and boys in theirs. Most of the stores carry one or the other. So we have both so that you're able to buy matching clothing um for like your husband and your son, or you know, for yourself and your son. It so that is our our biggest brand. We also have local boy outfitters, which is a really cool brand out of South Carolina. Um, Southern Tide, and then we have some smaller brands that. Like when you hear the stories, you that's why I that's why I like going to market, that's why I like working with some of these brands. So we have something like Cowboy Country Club, which is an Oxford brand, and that started from the owner doing it as his MBA school project. Um, and so he started that brand, it blew up on social media, and we ended up um finding them, and it's been a brand that everybody's really enjoyed. So these are just different um different brands that we don't typically have access to that we're trying to bring down here to um to showcase.

SPEAKER_04 22:30

That's one of the next questions. Well, it was actually a segue to was about the markets. Now, I've never really been to one of these big markets there in Atlanta, in Houston, other places like that, but I've heard they're pretty competitive, and uh, I guess you can just talk about that a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

Yeah, I I love going to market. Um it was very daunting at first when we when we first were going. We go to the Dallas market, um and we're we're for the women's store, we're looking at Atlanta.

SPEAKER_04 23:01

It was very, very competitive.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

Yes. Well the mark market's cool because a lot of these brands really protect their um protect their territory. So if you have ownership of the territory, they're going to make sure that they are protecting that from others entering territory.

SPEAKER_04 23:15

Talk to me about that because I'm I'm not completely familiar with it.

SPEAKER_02 23:19

Yeah, but so it it so I want to say like Burlebo has it set to where like you can't have someone else selling burlabo within 15 miles of you or something like that. And so um uh Southern Tide is really good about saying, like, okay, well, if someone's trying to enter the market that's in the town with you, we um we're gonna either notify you or we're gonna um we're gonna tell them that they're they're not able to move forward. And I I'm paraphrasing I you know from some of their policies, but so don't don't directly quote me on the phone.

SPEAKER_04 23:48

I want to know more about that than anybody else. Absolutely. So, but yeah, no, as far as that goes, but then the competition in the marketplace, is that just based on the territories and businesses?

SPEAKER_02 24:00

Yeah, yeah. I mean the market down here is different uh just because of how the coast is laid out. Um I will say, you know, it's all we we have some other great men's clothing stores around here.

SPEAKER_04 24:12

Um I mean from a re retail pers perspective, yeah. I've talked to Dorothy Roberts owned Robin's Nest, and I've talked to Paula Armbruster that owns you know with the C the fishing, uh the uh the uh fishing rods and things. They go through different markets, but it's literally in retail, it's not necessarily sure who's getting what and what's happening. So I'm just trying to find out, you know, and I'm sure the audience would like to know about that also.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Well, the brands are actually just great to work with. So a lot of the brands that we've just we've met with at market, they really help us build out those orders of what we're we're doing. So it's really I guess we're just lucky in the fact that it's not super competitive um to get them in. There have been times that we have brands that have said like we feel well represented, well represented between Mobile and New Orleans. We're we um don't need to like open in another store. So we've had that, but honestly, it's um all all the brands that we work with have been honestly like excellent uh to work with.

SPEAKER_04 25:15

Now, since you have been put in charge of the Coast Casual, you are the the the men's clothing. Now your husband left it on the table for you. Yes. Now you got Coast Chi.

SPEAKER_02 25:28

Yes, so Coast Chi. Talk to me about that. So literally from the first week we opened Coast Casual, we had women asking, when are you gonna open the women's version of this? Like, we want the women's version of Coast Casual. And so up until now we didn't really have a space to do that. So we um we ended up having a vacancy in um in a what what would I call that? A shopping center that we um plaza. Yeah, plaza, there we go. That we um that we own. And so that was just the perfect opportunity to say, hey, let's bring in the female side of a lot of these brands um that are not represented down here on the coast, um, especially in Pass Christian. And then the whole goal and vibe of Coast Chic is to I I say this a lot, but to sell clothing that you can chase your children in. And I'm I mean, selfishly, that's me wanting to be able to.

SPEAKER_04 26:23

I was just gonna say it wasn't put into the words in your mouth, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

I want those clothes, so I, you know, if we're mad at nine toes trying to run up the hill to chase two toddlers, then you know, I want something that like is fashionable but still tasteful. And so that that's really the goal there. I really want to lean into some aphleur clothing for women, um, so that you know, when you're out running errands, what can you throw on at the baseball field? What can you throw on? So that um that's really the goal for um Koshy.

SPEAKER_04 26:53

Well now, since we talked about the marketplace and retail, are they the same level or or the I would guess that the females is a lot more competitive, am I correct?

SPEAKER_02 27:03

Yes, a lot more competitive. Um I have we have not gone to market with um with women's yet. We have um a lot of our brand, our current brands for Coast Casual know we're gonna open the women's side and they've been super receptive to that. And so um really going to market would be to look at um new brands that maybe aren't represented down here, uh represented in past Christian because I love I love shopping in the boutiques down here at K Pavellini at Sarah Kate um Salty Kisses. I love going there and I just want to make sure that we're not overlapping the same clothing because I think it's just a respect thing for the women-owned small businesses here to support each other.

SPEAKER_04 27:42

Exactly, exactly. Now, of course, as I asked your husband before, but he's his facial expression was a little bit different than what I get on the internet, and I look for Google your name on there, first thing pops up is Ellis Realty, you being a realtor.

SPEAKER_12 27:59

I'm not even a realtor anymore. It's funny.

SPEAKER_04 28:02

But but that being said, I mean, with you guys being involved in that together, um, is there a a marketplace that you like to be that you and Tyler both really want to try to put out there?

SPEAKER_02 28:16

Honestly, so I'm not even I was a realtor for a hot minute, uh, did not do any kind of real estate. I got it when I was on maternity leave with Luke. So I've just really just been around it. I grew up around that with my mom is um a realtor in Ocean Springs. In Ocean Springs, yeah, with Liker. Um, but so I grew up around that. But uh no, I you know, I my main job is actually human resources. There you go. I'm a director for talent acquisition for Oshner, so that is my day job. Well, there you go.

SPEAKER_04 28:46

Well, that's something that definitely everybody wants to know now. You know, when we're going to facilitate or hospitals, we need to call Caitlin. So that being said, Caitlin, we appreciate you know, and of course, we want to know uh what's the best time, you know. Uh we can start looking for chic, and you know, you know, now the hours of Coast Casual and things as such.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

So Coast Casual were open six days a week. So um we are open Tuesday through Saturday, 10 to 7 p.m. So we're open late, we're open after work. You can always stop by and we have cocktails. Um the girls can offer you a beverage.

SPEAKER_04 29:24

Wow, what's what are we doing here?

SPEAKER_02 29:27

We've got great cocktail, um, great liquor provided by Pass uh Bottle Shop. So and then um on Sundays we are open from 10 to 4. Um and then Coast Chic, um Tyler said six weeks. We're targeting about six weeks to try and get that open. Um really uh just starting that that process now. So we're excited about it.

SPEAKER_04 29:48

Well, Caleb, we gratefully appreciate you and we appreciate you guys having us here.

SPEAKER_02 29:52

Thank you. Thank you all for coming.

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SPEAKER_07 31:17

Absolutely. So, uh, first off, thank y'all for having us today. I really appreciate talking to you.

SPEAKER_04 31:22

Thank you all for having us here.

SPEAKER_07 31:23

Absolutely, we're having a lot of fun. Um and also just going back to so I myself I'd never take on the title of brewmaster. Brewmaster is a very respectful term. I am not quite to that level yet, so I am head brewer, uh operations manager more than anything.

SPEAKER_04 31:38

But uh so sort of like a sojo, you know, you master yes.

SPEAKER_07 31:44

Honestly, it's weird. The uh the whole industry is really funny. Um there are multiple titles for brewers. There's elite brewers, there's shift brewers, there's head brewers, there's master brewers, there's brew masters. I mean, everybody makes up their own titles. Um, but again, I'm not gonna take on that back that type of a uh a role quite yet. That's um comes with a lot of experience, a lot of studying, and obviously nowhere uh close to where I'm at yet. With all that said, I have been um brewing professionally for about 14 years. Um I got my start at a beta brewing company. I had a chemistry background coming out of college. Um where did you go to school? So Spring Hill.

SPEAKER_04 32:19

Since we're in an all-miss environment here.

SPEAKER_07 32:21

Fair, fair, fair, fair, fair. Uh go tigers, by the way.

SPEAKER_04 32:26

There we go.

SPEAKER_07 32:27

Yeah, it's fair, fair, fair. I'm just gonna draw that line real quick. Um but no, I'm um I graduated Spring Hill in Mobile. Um and um believe it or not, I've actually been living the last seven years in Birm um Yeah, Birmingham, Alabama. So um my wife is from Birmingham, so I got an I got a uh an Auburn fan of my family. So we gotta I know House divided, let's just say that. Uh but I got my start coming out of college, um from Spring Hill, I had a chemistry background, um, and I had done some summer internships. I'm originally from Abita Springs, Covington area. Um, so I got in a um an opportunity out of college. I was looking for a lot of different jobs, and um I had an opportunity to be an apprentice at a Bita, and I was young, I was dumb, and I decided, hey, if I'm gonna make a weird life choice, now's my chance. Uh 14 years later, 15 years later, I'm still doing what I'm doing, and I love it. Um but working at a Bita taught me a lot. So I started as an apprentice, and then literally they threw me into uh everything where um I mean they wouldn't let me touch the brew house system for the first two years. Um I cleaned, I transferred beers, and that's all I did for two years was a grind. Is that a philosophy of Obida or is that not necessarily, but um you know I have a lot of um friends in the industry, a lot of guys that I met at Obida, a lot of guys that have gone on to do a lot of really good things in the industry, and we all say the same thing. Coming from big brewing, a lot of brewers start um with startup breweries and then they work their way up. My friend group started differently. We started big brewing and we worked our way down. So we started on a system where I jokingly, and it's not even a joke, in one 12-hour shift, we made more beer than I'll make in a year and a half here. Um so we were really hyper focused on quantity of um of product. Um when so so we learned how to clean. Avita taught us how to multitask, how to um really think on your toes, um, how to move mass product, and then you know, I've taken everything I learned there, and every brewery that I've been to since has been a little bit smaller, and that's where I want to be ultimately. Like, we love what we're doing, and every brewery wants to um make money, so we're in the industry of making money. So um, you know, the fun and the challenge and um everything that I have taken from a beta and have brought to uh nine toes has been all learning experiences, but also you know how to drive product, how to make a quality product, and then how to um take that quality product and also multiply that and make quantity.

SPEAKER_04 35:23

Walk me through, Jimmy, if you don't mind, who the company buys grains and hops from and what the process you do to develop that.

SPEAKER_07 35:32

Yeah, so um I work with multiple different um companies, um, but one company in particular is called Country Malt. Country Malt is a um they're kind of like your one-stop shop. So location? They are out of uh more northwest, so I want to say their headquarters is in Washington State, but don't quote me on that. Sure, sure. Um but they work with a lot of um a lot of uh farmers in that area, the Yakima Valley in particular is where you're gonna get all your beautiful uh United State hops. But they also work with farmers that are over um in Germany, um in Australia, um, you know, just multiple places for hops. Hops are grown everywhere, specific regions, and then grain, we get a lot of grain from Canada, a lot of grain from the United States. Um, so it just kind of depends on you know what grains we're looking for. But Country Malt is a uh company that's kind of a one-stop shop where I can go in, and um I know the regional sales manager very well. So I work with him on um getting the product that we need. Um we bring that in on kind of a timely basis, and I'm able to kind of take those ingredients, turn it around, and so I'm also using some other um some other companies though. So I use um White Labs for my yeasts, um, you know, it's a very again kind of industry standard. I get my fruit from a specific company called Organ Fruit. All of the fruit that we use is um all natural product, organ fruit's kind of the um industry standard. So um they supply I mean breweries all over the world. Um but they take fresh fruit, um, they pasteurize it, and they sanitarily package it for us to use. So I mean I I have multiple sources that I get my ingredients from, um a couple mainstays, but um I'm also not afraid to go out and talk to individual farmers, uh local suppliers, things like that to get local ingredients when we can. I love outsourcing local, um, but when we're talking about quantity, we're talking about mainly northwest kind of region more than anything to get a lot of our stuff.

SPEAKER_04 37:40

Do you have a set schedule when you're brewing, when you're creating a new craft?

SPEAKER_07 37:46

So a lot of what I do is we're we're kind of playing a mix between Tetris and chess. So um, you know, a lot of moving pieces, so I have to make sure that uh certain products are moving on draft well. I'm monitoring the number of kegs that we have in our cold room and then also the amount of product that we have in our tanks. So I'm playing Tetris, moving a lot of that stuff, but we're also playing chess where you know we're trying to stay ahead of the industry, we're trying to stay ahead of our competition, which I mean competition is a strong word, you know. For this area, yeah. For yeah, for this area. And you know, I've got a lot of love for all the brewers that I've met um, you know, in this stretch, and really, you know, a rising tide, you know, it's it's good for all ships. So um as long as the industry is growing, you know, I don't really they're not competition. They're more um, you know, again, we're we're all in this industry together. We're all in it to to really help craft beer in this area. But um, you know, I'm I'm monitoring what they're doing, I'm monitoring what um our locals are drinking um and what's selling really well. And we're gonna strategically kind of play around that. Um and I'm game planning accordingly. So I'll go based off of quantity of product left, and we'll decide if I want to re-brew that beer or come up with a new recipe and um you know kind of have some fun with something different.

SPEAKER_04 39:11

So Tyler mentioned uh earlier a few new brews on the platform, possibly a new uh jalapeno beer. Do you want to talk to me about that?

SPEAKER_07 39:21

Yeah, so um as we get a little bit more comfortable with our setup, um, my water profiling, um, my system, my process, uh we're gonna have um we're gonna start having a little bit more fun with a lot of our stuff. Pun intended uh for the grand opening. I did want to dip my toe in the water a little bit. Um I wanted to kind of see what past Christiane wanted to drink. I wanted to start off a little bit light, a little bit of approachable. Um, but we're gonna start having some fun. Um, and that's kind of really where the craft industry comes into play. Um, but I've got a um so I've got a very traditional um goza coming out. Um so I brewed it to be um intentionally tart. It is wheat-based, and it is a um German-style beer. Um, it is going to have some nice salinity to it, so we brewed it with sea salt. I also added a little bit of coriander in there as well. Um, but then to that base, we're going to be adding um pineapple, um, a little bit of citrus, so a little bit of tangerine, and then we're also adding jalapenos. So a little bit spice, um, but I don't want it to be necessarily spicy on the palate. I want um I want some nice like heat that builds on the palate, but I don't want it to be um very spicy up front, if that makes sense. Um I'd rather that heat kind of linger on the back of your palate more than anything.

SPEAKER_04 40:48

So how often do you put in new craft beers per per week or is it per day?

SPEAKER_07 40:54

It's going to um adjust as we again get more comfortable as we get rolling a little bit more. Um I would like to kind of switch things up as we get again a little bit further into this process. Um so I would want to say maybe maybe twice a month, maybe three times a month, I'd like to come up with something new.

SPEAKER_04 41:19

So just letting the audience know if they want to come to Nine Toes Brewery, other than all the time, you know, you want to come in and get a new beer, how much?

SPEAKER_07 41:27

Once I get rolling, uh my goal will be to have um two to three new recipes on tap every single month. Uh so if that's um every week, if that's every other week, uh my goal will be to rotate out beers very frequently. Um we're again we've got a lot to figure out. You know, we're we're only four weeks into this whole process. I only have 14 brews that I've done on this system. Uh, but once we get into a a good rhythm.

SPEAKER_04 41:59

You act like that's not very much, is that not very much?

SPEAKER_07 42:02

It's a it it's a it's a it's a good it's a good bit, and it's been a fun challenge. Um but it's gonna be something that um once I'm able to really tap into what we're doing, we're gonna have a lot of fun, we're gonna have new beers. You know, I want um our regulars to have a certain beer that they are familiar with. So we'll pick a couple beers that are selling well, we'll re-brew them. I'll make sure that every time I brew it, I brew it better. Um, and so we lock into a recipe. But I want uh some familiarity, so I want again some comfort. I want people to come in and say, hey, we came in last week, I had that beer that was killer, it's still on tap, right? So it'll be there. But then we also I want my um I want my bar staff to be able to say, Alright, well, you really like that beer. Well, let me let me introduce you to this beer, and we're gonna continue to kind of build our brand um around that model. And um, yeah, we're gonna like I said, we're gonna have some fun. I've got some real cool recipes that I've worked on, um, and I'm excited to share with the coast.

SPEAKER_04 43:06

So Jimmy, we thank you.

SPEAKER_07 43:08

Absolutely, thank you guys, really appreciate y'all.

SPEAKER_04 43:11

Would love to introduce our final guest, the Nine Toes Brewing Company manager, Ty Miskaman. Did I pronounce it right now?

SPEAKER_06 43:18

Yeah, you got that spot on. Good deal. Good deal.

SPEAKER_04 43:21

Ty, give me a background of yourself and why people should get to know you here at the brewery.

SPEAKER_06 43:27

Man, so I'm pretty new to the coast relatively, but as far as just this industry in general, I've done hospitality since I was 15 years old. I've worked in every aspect of restaurants, bar, pubs, everything like that. So what you kind of expect from me when you come in here is gonna be a good time. I'm a lively fella, I like having live music, I like having good times in here. So the same thing carries over to our brewery. You're gonna come in here, there's numerous, numerous different things to do from board games, golf, live music, great beer, all of it just speaks to me as a person, and it's I mean the perfect place to work. So

SPEAKER_04 44:00

On a side note, in the uh second game or I think a third game of the college football season, do you think you're gonna have to get some security, especially with the LSU, the Ole Miss game? Because uh that's a little bit of uh I mean we might interest going on here.

SPEAKER_06 44:15

We might just have to, but I mean if I need to outsource for that, I have some people that I think can keep the piece in here. Um, depending on the score, though, it I mean we might see you get a little contentious at times, but you it's it's gonna be a safe place, I promise you. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_04 44:26

I appreciate it. But good to know that. Good to know that. You know, what's the difficulty been for you, Ty, before the opening, getting to the opening, and now getting ahead started in the game?

SPEAKER_06 44:38

I mean, as far as difficulty goes, I wouldn't say anything absurd. I think it's more just getting your timing down and finding the balance between, you know, your personal life and then getting this thing going. But as far as getting this brewery going, we've been fortunate enough to have a pretty seamless uh startup, and that goes goes to the team we have in general, from the administrative side of things with uh SummerVan, who really got this thing off the ground, to Jimmy getting all these brews ready, and then the staff I have who has come in here and really come into their own, as far as we have over these past couple weeks. So this whole process has been shockingly very smooth to say the least, but it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_04 45:15

Well, and is that from a level of having your staff trying out beers because you want them to be able to talk with the customers, because obviously, if you're like me and you haven't really heard of any of these types or anything, you want them their recommendations absolutely to mean something.

SPEAKER_06 45:35

Yeah, one percent. And it's interesting down here, just with the lack of breweries there are. I mean, granted, we have a couple of very good breweries, but the the craft beer knowledge down here was pretty minimal when you think about it. And then the same thing goes with your bartenders. They came in and very few of them were familiar with these different brews, and so getting them up to speed on what everything was and getting them to try and know a flavor profile, uh the hot balance, everything like that, um, that was a process, and it's and it's an ongoing one, especially when you're introducing new things every other week or so. So just keeping them up to date on what we have and what the flavor profile is and letting them try it and know what they're talking about. Um it's it's interesting, especially when you know my bartenders aren't necessarily the biggest of beer fans, but we've made believers out of them. We've made believers out of a lot of people down here who thought they would stick with the Miller light and Coors lights and you know keep it simple. But just like our clientele, we've made believers out of our bar staff as well. Good deal.

SPEAKER_04 46:29

What what input do you and Tyler have together about setting up the music schedules and the event plannings and all that? As far as I mean, I know you guys uh probably talk about what's gonna happen at least.

SPEAKER_06 46:44

Well, yeah, I mean, so this was I mean planned from the get-go. Before these doors even opened, we knew we wanted live music on Fridays and Saturdays, we wanted events throughout the week. So from the jump, we were reaching out to local artists, specifically, you know, some of the better, bigger names, and even some up-and-comers. We've had a lot of new artists and a lot of uh prominent artists already. And when we've we're booked out through the end of July right now, like we have music every Friday and Saturday. We're gonna start adding Sundays as you guys have gotten able to see today. We have a pretty good crowd, and I think some live music in here would do good on a Sunday afternoon. So, but we got artists all the way from Carrie Lane to Drew Fulton to Caleb King. I mean, we got country alternatives, some folk rock. I mean, we have some very good artists that have come up here.

SPEAKER_04 47:26

What is in in your mind, being the manager here, what's the most attractive thing right now under your idea of like, okay, not necessarily something for a kid's age, but for like my age. Coming in can sit down, have a beer, watch TV, being involved in the golf simulator. Well, which what do you think is the most attractive part?

SPEAKER_06 47:47

I mean, it's exactly that, but I mean the most attractive part is gonna be I mean, the quality beer you're getting, and that's a testament to Jimmy himself. I mean, just the product that he's produced, and he's the biggest tickler of his own product. I'll go down that tap line, and there's not a single thing I don't like, and there'll be certain situations like I'm I don't feel comfortable putting this out there yet. So that's like for a guy like you and me, you can expect to come in here and have high quality beer, and it may taste like something you've had before, but you're gonna be impressed with it. I mean, we've been open three to four weeks, and we've had brewers from different breweries and sales rep from people in different places, they come down and they're shocked with how good our product is this early on. And I mean that's just a testament to what you're gonna have here. I mean, and besides the beer, like you said, you got the golf simulators, you can come in, shoot 27 over at Augusta and have a time of your life.

SPEAKER_04 48:31

That's right. That's right. That's the only time you can play Augusta in my mind. Exactly. But let the audience know about when is the best time to come into the brewery, other than all the time. When's the best time under your mind? Let's say if they have a family, if they have just want to come for a date night.

SPEAKER_06 48:49

Yeah, so uh there's three nights specifically that I think are a really good time. Wednesday, we do trivia. Um, we bounce between just regular general trivia and music trivia, both have been a blast. And then Fridays and Saturdays, we have live music up here. If you are a social butterfly like myself, you like talking to lots of people, having some quality beer, those are the nights to come up and make your rounds, talk to everyone, shake some hands, kiss some babies, listen to some great music and enjoy the best beer I think we have on the coast.

SPEAKER_04 49:14

Ty, we appreciate you having me on. If there's anything you want to say to the audience, just say, tell them to come on out. What are the hours of the uh the brewery?

SPEAKER_06 49:24

So we're open every day of the week. Uh Sunday through Tuesday is gonna be 12 to 9. Wednesday and Thursday is gonna be 11 to 10, and Friday and Saturday are 11 to 11. Um, I'd really love to get you guys to come out here, try it if you haven't yet. We're really, I mean, appreciative that we've been welcomed in the community with open arms and have had a lot of positive feedback. So it's just been a blessing and a really good time so far. So thanks for coming out and letting us hop on here with you guys.

SPEAKER_04 49:47

Well, Ty, we really appreciate you and Tyler and Jimmy and Kaelin all having us out here. It's uh it's been a testament of how great it is. Jeff and I really enjoy it out here, and we're no doubt gonna come back as much as possible.

SPEAKER_06 50:00

I appreciate it, fellas. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 50:02

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SPEAKER_04 50:13

And here we are talking about Realty again with our O'Doire Realtor Agent sponsor, Stephanie Mankowitz. Let's talk about the tips this week from Stephanie about what Realtors should be doing for you.

SPEAKER_09 50:29

Thank you, Hunter. As always, it's a pleasure to review realtor topics and uh hopefully it helps people, right? So, what should we do we should we be doing for you, the buyer or the seller? First thing I would say is, and it's in the actual disclosure everybody signs when they work with an agent, is ensure all parties are represented fairly and honestly. It's called fair and honest dealings. And if I'm helping you or anyone out, before I can even show you a house, you know, you sign that disclosure, and it's not even a contract, it protects you as a person, and I'm supposed to explain that for him to you and say, hey, before we do anything real estate, I am licensed, I am liable, I am here to help you, give you fair and honest dealings, get the most I can for your house, confidentiality. I'm not gonna, if you're a seller, I'm not gonna tell people your bottom line, that's a secret. So, um, so we'll start with that. The first thing is that we are fair, and sometimes realtors get a bad rap, and sometimes there's realtors that have caused that. But uh, I know I'm one of the realtors that considers myself pretty by the book and just trying to solve the problem. I just want to be part of the solution, right? So if you're selling a puppy or Avon, whatever it is, there's liabilities when you're selling a house times three times ten. Okay. Alright, well, I would say uh another thing we do, we we make sure that the people who maybe they were they've never sold a home before, or they've never bought a home before, we make sure that we weed through the shaky buyers for the sellers, buyers that maybe aren't a good idea to deal with. We can see problems coming before they start when a realtor's been doing this 10 years. And if it is a buyer, we're also looking for sellers that might be a problem. You know, if we're putting in a really healthy offer and it's like full price or near full price, and then we hear there's a multiple offer situation, it doesn't mean you panic. You know, sometimes you leave your offer right where it is, even though there's other offers. So we're making we're weeding through the shakiness and the things that come up that seem unpredictable. And one of the other unpredictable things, like for sellers, is you know, they get an offer and it's got 10 contingencies on it, and the price looks great, and they say they're cash, but there's all these contingencies, so um, you know, you're not you're not really aware how much we help you until you actually deal with a good realtor. That's one thing I would say, and we want to help them determine the value that's correct if they're selling.

SPEAKER_04 53:21

What are some of the things that determine the value?

SPEAKER_09 53:24

Oh, okay, that's a good one. Let's start with location. You know the old saying, location, location, location. All right. Uh let's start with what are things selling for around you? If you're in a nice neighborhood and and you think your house is a castle, we all kind of feel like that when we love our home. Does it mean it's worth three times what the market says? Uh so people will hear realtors say, Well, the market says your house is worth this. And some sellers don't want to accept that. No, no, it's it's got to be worth more. I've got a double granite countertop, I've got a fountain that shoots out gold in the backyard, and I've got three kittens with it. So I think I should get a hundred thousand more. And we have to rein people in and say, I love your kittens, I love your granite. In the last year, in your neighborhood, people have paid this amount, and though, and that's where we start thinking like an appraiser. So we're like, okay, wait, we can go out two miles and look at the last sales in the last year within two miles of this property, and we can see what people have been paying. And we also look at the square footage, and that's really important, Hunter, because if your house is 2,000 square feet and you saw one sell for a million and it had 3,000 square feet, and you're like, Well, mine's worth that too. You're a thousand square feet smaller, so I can't even count that house as a comparable sale, right? When we determine the value is the critical, probably the most critical thing we do as your listing agent, because that price is the first thing they see, just like the pictures. And if we priced you so high that you seem ridiculous, they're not coming. And then guess who you don't like? Me, the realtor. You don't like me anymore. So I'm kind of an upfront realtor, I think a lot of us are after we've been in a while. And we say, look, in all honesty, right now, this is what the market says your house is worth. Other things we're gonna help you with is um determining what is the inside of the house worth. Um, appraisals are gonna change next year uh across the country, and there will be different data inputs into determining what your house is worth. So we're gonna be on top of that. Um, and so if you're trying to sell on your own, you know, we can be really helpful and deal with all these unexpected things that happen when you try to uh sell on your own. Um you know, we've talked about sellers a lot, so okay, I'm just gonna put this out there. If you're thinking of selling on your own, that some of the things we're doing for you, the seller, to make it easier is photos, professional photos. We pay for those. A lot of our photographers have drones. We're taking the calls because it's our number on the sign. So if it's a looky loo, it's not an ideal buyer. We've got our radar out there, so we're taking that hassle, you know, out of it.

SPEAKER_04 56:39

If you are thinking about selling on your own, maybe ask Steph. If you would like to talk to Stephanie to help determine your next steps, call today at 228-563-0471, or call her at the office and ask for Steph at 228-452-4242. Steph has the latest information to help you get through the process with reasonable expectations. Again, that's 228-563-0471 to speak directly with Stephanie. First off, we all want to thank Tyler, Caitlin, and the whole staff for letting us host these two shows at this wonderful venue, Jeff. And I can see how successful this place is going to become.

SPEAKER_15 57:31

Yeah, it's amazing. It's uh again, it's as someone who lives two blocks away, it's amazing to have this in the neighborhood. It's great for the coast. I mean, it's just it's awesome. It's great for Past Christiane, for sure.

SPEAKER_04 57:44

We gratefully appreciate you listening to this podcast. And of course, Jeff, we always thank you for doing this. You're doing a great job. It was a great show, and I think it's only going to get better, which is kind of hard with this. It's going to be hard to top this, you know.

SPEAKER_15 57:57

This is kind of the peak, but that's that's good.

SPEAKER_04 58:00

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