Mom-ish After Dark

Gentle Parenting and Other Personal Attacks

Zorro Season 1 Episode 10

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A single song lyric can do more than make us emotional, it can make us realize how much we’ve been carrying since childhood. We start with our usual Momish chaos (pets judging us, husbands doing questionable things, and the kind of bathroom talk you only have with close friends), then we get real about the moment parenting shines a spotlight on your past. That feeling of becoming a mother before you ever felt fully mothered can be subtle, even when you had a “good childhood,” and it can still change how you see yourself.

We talk oldest daughter syndrome, parentification, and the strange pressure of being the responsible one early on. We also get into what it looks like when family dynamics are complicated: custody battles, blurred parent-child roles, and the long tail of generational parenting habits. Then we bring it to the present with toddler emotions, defiance, and the constant balancing act of validating big feelings while still teaching your kid how to handle them.

From there, we shift to marriage after kids and why we hate the social media narrative that your relationship is destined to suck for years. Yes, a baby changes the dynamic, but it doesn’t magically “get better” without effort. We share what’s helped us most, including venting vs fixing, simple communication check-ins, and staying on the same team when you’re both tired. If you care about gentle parenting, postpartum relationship advice, and breaking generational cycles without spiraling into perfectionism, this one will land.

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Welcome And Pet Chaos

SPEAKER_01

Hey guys, welcome to Momish, your weekly yap session. I'm Gabby. I'm Katie. I'm Taylor. Welcome back. Welcome back.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome.

SPEAKER_01

In the live. How are we gonna go live?

SPEAKER_00

It was great. Not bad. I'm on a big break from work. I'm like, I should probably keep this up and just not go back. Yeah. I think that's a good idea. Thank you. Yeah. I support it. I wish I could do that. Is that Ozzy right there? Uh-huh. Ozzie the cat. Yeah, Ozzy's our our guest star today. Last week we had Dylan's sister. This week we have Taylor's cat. Hopefully he'll give us a little something to get. He's already given me the side eye like three times. You know cats have opinions. Oh, for sure. They just are judging you. And it's not even like covert. It's very obvious. They're like fucking idiots. Yeah, they're like you ever. Everything you say is stupid. My dog, Otis, he is judgmental though. I love Otis. Like, don't cry in front of him because he just gets super uncomfortable. He'll like kind of freeze and then get up and walk out of the room. Like boxers growing up, they do that where they're like and then they're like very annoying and then gets up and walks away. Yeah. Yeah. Very annoying. I'm in his space. He's like, it's time for a nap.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. This is not the time. This is the whole experience. This whole thing right now is very exhausting. I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_01

Elsa's in that era of her life where she's like, I'm gonna go to bed, but she'll thickens.

SPEAKER_00

You don't mind the era that I'm in with my dog is she's so old that I had to look at make sure she her chest is rising because I think she's dead like four times a day. Have you shared with Gabe and Gabby your purchase this week for cupcake? I got cupcake a halo. It's like that's it's like a seeing eye, it's like a little harness that has the thing around the front. So it's Regina George. Yeah. Well, no, no, that no, it's like a it's a halo, but for like so she doesn't bump through the walls. It's a blind dog mechanism. Yeah, so she hits that instead of her face. And Taylor Dylan found it hilarious.

SPEAKER_01

Is she wearing it correctly? Yes, she is. We should put down it.

SPEAKER_00

I wonder if your other dogs are just like you dog. No, they're not what the hell are they putting you in now?

SPEAKER_01

I can do no.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Winston hates cupcake. Exactly. You know, he's talking shit when she's wearing her halo. He's like, this fucking idiot.

SPEAKER_01

He's a rubber from the easier.

SPEAKER_00

So stupid. Well, he was having like a full sexual encounter with his pink blanket before I came. So he was whimpering, and I was like, oh no, is someone like locked in a bathroom? Nope, just once and having sex with his toy dog.

SPEAKER_01

That dog has the most sex of anyone I know.

SPEAKER_00

I'm saying he is a busy boy. He's got a way better sex life than any of us do. I for I really second that. It's a blanket for my listeners. It's a blanket that has like a poodle head on it. It's like one of those blankets for kids that they can like wear.

SPEAKER_01

But he sees the girl poodle and he's like, What's up?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Name's Winnie. That's his girlfriend. And that thing looks like she has been road hard hung up wet. We have not gotten rid of it yet. Because I can't I don't have the heart to take him away from his let's his girlfriend. Yeah. Speaking of, I was thinking this week, what is it with men and touching their balls?

SPEAKER_01

I think it gets stuck down there.

SPEAKER_00

Why do they have no shame they gotta reach to just uh touch their crotch? I mean, I just watched Dylan do it and I'm like I don't just start itching myself. Yeah, I feel like I saw Dylan doing that the other day and I was like, shit I got you like, look away, look away. I was like, why did I see okay? Yeah, Gil is like I mean he's not terrible about it, but I do see him like kind of they always readjust and I maybe they're just like sitting on them a lot.

SPEAKER_01

I guess they're stuck to like their lips.

SPEAKER_00

That means you're getting old when your balls are getting to caught under your butt. That means you're old and your balls are sagging.

SPEAKER_01

Any man listeners, Adam, let me know. Yeah, let us know.

SPEAKER_00

Why do you touch your crotch that much? Yeah, is it no shame? Like, or just is it like a weird thing? You're just like, oh, gotta make sure it's still there, you know? Not sure. These are grown men we're talking about, our husbands. Then it's like, why are your hands always on your genitals? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. It's weird. I don't get it. Can't really. Well, I no, definitely can't relate. Weren't we talking about the other day? Oh, that's right, when you poop, everybody wipes and looks at it. Oh, yeah. And Taylor says she doesn't because hers is just a blank sheet of toilet paper because she's a fucking Greek god, apparently. It doesn't have to I mean I look after, but with each wipe, I'm not staring at it.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you gotta like see Have you seen the TikTok? I don't know. There's like a couple on it this topic where people are like, oh, you go around and wipe from front to back. All right, go ahead. Okay, so sorry. Did you burp? Yeah. Oh, that's we'll leave that in. I don't think she's probably burped and like Taylor has a one bodily function. But I am not a gassy person, guys.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Taylor doesn't fart. She doesn't have shit on the toilet paper when she wipes. She's a flawless human. We're all we are all just her. Thank you so much. We're unworthy of her of her presence. Thank you. Because when I shit, there is poop. And there's poop on the toilet paper for everybody.

SPEAKER_01

Well, this TikTok is basically questioning do you reach around and wipe? Or do you go from the front and wipe? What? That's disgusting. That's how you get a yeast. Because you reach around. Okay, but this girl or this guy was like, oh no, I can still wipe from front to back if I reached out to the back.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I guess guys can because there's not a risk of them getting a UTI. So you're saying they in that case they would do back to front.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. I just feel like that's sacrilegious. Of course you don't have to. I reach around.

SPEAKER_00

If you don't reach around, you're a sociopath and you probably have a stanky assistant. You probably have chronic UTIs. Yeah. I don't know about men because they don't have a hole down there. And their penis hole is so far. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But it was a funny TikTok if you That's wild.

SPEAKER_00

You gotta read the comments on that. It's hilarious. I would have laughs so I love reading the comment section. I love it. Also, Jen like, I'm such a bad person. So Noah was talking about the color purple yesterday. Kept saying purple. Purple. And it just meant there's this girl on Instagram that is. We're big fans. Oh, I'm a huge fan, but she is says the word purple really funny. Just look it up. Just just Google more purple. It's one of those things that now when you hear that word, that's you can't say it normally. You can not say it that way. And you can purple? You hear the word purple, that's what you think of. Right. So Noah. And if you didn't, now you will. You're welcome. Yeah. So you're welcome, everybody. Ruining your

A Song That Hits Motherhood Nerves

SPEAKER_00

day. So like I heard this song this week, Willing and Able by how do you say his name? Noah Khan. Noah Khan. Is it Khan? It said it sounds I thought it was Noah Kahan. That's so con. I've heard it's pronounced two ways. Well, there's no other silent letter that I feel like is used a lot. H makes a sound. Khan.

SPEAKER_02

It's what?

SPEAKER_00

Now this is why English language is so hard to learn because it makes no fucking sense. Anyway, let's go to Noah Khan.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00

So Noah Khan. So it's called Willing and Able. I think I mentioned that. But it's, I believe it's about like childhood experiences. I need to listen to it. Yeah, so it's go and listen, everybody, but it's listening to it and it kind of resonating in a certain way. And then I realized that saw like an Instagram reel. Shout out to whoever it was, don't remember your name. But it was a I was convinced this song was written for the daughters who became mothers before they were ever fully mothered themselves. And that like spoke volumes for me at least. That I felt like when I had my daughter, I felt like a lot of things from my yeah, came to light. And it was not like a very obvious. It wasn't like I had this terrible childhood and you know, you're I was all fucked up from it. Like I had a very great childhood. I have my parents are still married to this day. Like I had wonderful, I had a wonderful childhood. But there were certain things that I realized after having my own child that were more problematic for me, and not necessarily things that my parents did. It was, I think the generation, you know, generational things and the time, you know. Like, do you have an example? Would you share

Oldest Daughter Syndrome And Parentification

SPEAKER_00

an example? Just specifically, I felt like being the oldest daughter and also being the second child of, you know, I had this older sibling with had some things going on. We had a really fucked up birth order. You know how like you'll have like the oldest sibling is the perfect one, and then there's the glass-glass child that like nobody notices because they're fine. I don't really have a normal birth order because my brother obviously is not the perfect child. So I was the oldest sibling in a lot of ways, but then I was also that oldest daughter syndrome, which I feel like you're naturally parentified a little bit. Take on that motherly what you're the go-to. Like felt like I grew up earlier than I had should have. I I was dealing with a lot of adult things before my adult. Well, yeah, like my brain, I thought at the time I was old enough because you know, you as a teenager, you're like, oh, I'm you know, I know everybody's responsible. And now that I'm an adult, an actual adult, I realize I'm like, okay, these were not things that I should have been dealing with. For me, I felt like there were certain things that I was not, I didn't realize I was affected by until I had my own child, which was really powerful. I just want to like preface, like, I'm not saying that I had, you know, bad parents or things like that, but I felt like, you know, my mom was also an oldest daughter, and she was raised by a woman who was essentially a child when she had her. And so I feel like some of those things, they're just generational things that you don't know are problematic until it's too late. Right. So that, you know, I wanted to talk about and see how you what you guys' perspective was on it. No, it's interesting that you say that because Dylan and I were just talking about that now that we have two kids, just being so aware of not kind of making Charlie fall into that like oldest daughter type role. And I also, I mean, we know we want a third. So then I also hate the like narrative of like the middle child.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And basically I'm just saying, like giving them their full childhood, being aware, you know, I don't really care. Oh, you were born first, you're the middle kid, you're the youngest. Like, I mean, some of that is gonna come inevitably with like, you know, just where they are in life versus the other one, but just being aware of okay, we're not gonna put our issues and stressors and things on our kids just because they're the oldest and we're not gonna treat the middle one differently just because they're the middle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I feel like, and Gabby, I want to hear your perspective too, but like I'm sorry, I've been I haven't even thinking, like, just thinking, I have so much to say, and I haven't had an opening yet. I just don't even know like where to start with my childhood because it's very different. Like I had such I had a great childhood, I had great opportunities, but like my parents, it's very different, like went through custody battles. So I had that perspective of going through it and then feeling like maybe I don't know if parentified's the word by one parent, but feeling like I had I was growing up a little bit more, like I was the friend versus like a daughter. So it kind of grows, blares the lines of like, okay, sh can I can tell my mom something that's really important, and then also like okay, getting in trouble for it later on.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's in one of those things that's hard. And I I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, you know, being an only child and also being a child of young parents. You know, you're kind of like the sounding board and you're like that only person to hear from both sides from you know, mom and dad.

SPEAKER_01

Whereas like a lot of things that one parent would be like, Well, you know, you have a better house over here, and like tell the lawyer this and tell this. Um why didn't you say that? So that's just like the other one not saying anything. And gosh, it just like there's so many things I think about that comes back, and I'm like, oh, maybe that wasn't right. Like, I don't have to go through that, and like I'm happy that he has a healthy relationship to look up to as well, because I didn't have that. Yeah. No, you know, it was probably better they were separated.

SPEAKER_00

Sure, yeah, and that's you know, that's totally, you know, fine to to understand. I'm sure they probably agree with you. Yeah. Um but you know, it's hard, you know, being in a situation at the time and you're like, oh, I can totally handle this, like, you know, and you think you're older than you are when you're a teenager, regardless.

SPEAKER_01

As a kid, you're trying to figure out like what is right and wrong still, you know, you're seven or eight, like what's the right thing, what's not the right thing, but you don't want to go against your parents, you know.

SPEAKER_00

It's also conflicting feeling being having a childhood that's not bad. Like it's not like you're like going through where you're like, you don't know where your next meal is coming from, or you know, you had an abusive parent or whatever it is, but you like as an adult, you look back and you're like, damn, that was like not. It wasn't the best, not the greatest thing to put your child through. And it's you know, and like I said, my parents were great in a lot of ways, and they're still great, and they're wonderful grandparents. It's just, you know, we there are things now that I know that we know now, like just from like, you know, the evolution of time, not great to, you know, expose your child to those things. Or I mean a fuck, like processed food, we turn we realize it's terrible. Well that's what I was gonna say. I feel like it's like great childhood or not, regardless, when you reach, you know, when you become a parent, there's always gonna be things that you're like, oh, I'm gonna do that differently than how I was raised, or you know, even just generation makes other things brought to light. I guess when you become a parent where you're like, well, with that generation, my parents did things differently. Whereas our generation as parents bring up these new things that we're gonna do. Exactly. Good childhood or not. I mean, you always are gonna be hyper aware. Like they did a bad job. It's just one of those things where damn, like when you're in the face of a little baby girl, especially for me, with all these you or me, you know, 35 years ago now. And it's like, oh my God, like I don't want you to ever feel like you need to be smaller. Or and that's not something that necessarily my parents ever, you know, made me do, but it's just like in general, like be having a big personality, you know, it was always calm down or you know, make yourself quieter. Or and I just like those were things that in generationally when we were younger, right? It was like if you were a a girl and you had a strong personality, like you needed to like take up less space. I felt like that a lot, you know. That I feel like now we're kind of like confronting that and we're like more making or changing the narrative by being like, no, you're not too much. You are perfect, you are perfect you the way you are, and there are people out there that will love you regardless. And if they don't love that about you, then it's the wrong person to be in your life, and that's why you know my husband loves him so much, also will call me out on my shit, and that's annoying, but he is But that's what you needed. Well, I needed someone in the partner that like he literally is cracking. This is the conversation that requires alcohol. Um he is one of those people that like he's my biggest supporter, and he's always gonna say, like, you're not too much. And if he ever says I'm too much, I'm like, Well, you fucking married me, it was your choice. Right. You knew you knew you knew what you're doing. Buddy, I think overall, it just like the amount of pressure you feel as a parent when you look at this newborn child that you're like, I am responsible for how you turn up, like fuck you up. Exactly. I also want to be able to give you like every life experience that you could need, every life lesson, teach you, you know, everything to make you just a well-rounded, happy, successful individual. Right. And just taking on that pressure as a parent, number one, I mean, it proves that you're a good parent. If that's something that you're worried about, that itself, yeah, that alone. Yeah. But if you don't ever do anything about it, the fact that it crosses your mind makes you mild. That you're aware

Toddler Feelings And Parenting Pressure

SPEAKER_00

of, but then too, it's stressful. Especially when you have a toddler.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

I see TikToks about this all the time where you're like, oh, your toddler's in this phase, and we're in the just the defiant phase. Like everything is Charlie's, everything is mine, mine, mine. No. Or I don't want to. And it's so hard because you're like, okay, this is developmental, but then there is a piece of you where you're like, okay, I need to make sure I handle this correctly because I do not want to raise a like bratty child or a rude child, or someone that's gonna walk on. And also the toxic bitch in me wants to backhand the shit out of you when, like, at least for me, Noah, it's like looking in the mirror and it's honestly Shut up! It's a very rude awakening looking at a smaller version of yourself and then other people just like like just enjoying it, like when those interactions are crazy, isn't it? Yeah, Gil just like look, he just has like a smirk on his face every time. But it it's hard, you know. Being someone that has always been told my emotions can be a lot sometimes, and so her me allowing her to have those emotions also triggers me to like want to mush them down, but also I want her, you know, it's it's really weird. And I'm not even sure if I'm explaining constantly being like, okay, let me validate how you feel, but then also let me also give you the tools to deal with that. Yeah. And not in a way where it needs to be less, but just so like if that's the emotion you're feeling, this is now how to gear it into, you know, and being whatever it needs to be. I feel like the vocabulary just is not there for and that's half the battle, right? With the toddler. Yeah, it's just the emotion is there, it's a lot, it's big. And being a product of me, Katie Parson, she's got a lot of emotions in there, and she does not have the vocabulary to deal with it. So it turned comes out as like psycho sometimes where it's just like she wants, she's like, nobody she said this yesterday. I don't love crew, I don't love I nobody loves me. And I was like, what? Like it was so so many things in like a 20-second like conversation where I was like, what? I don't even know what to say to this right now. But she just turns out she just needed a fucking nap. And I feel that, yeah. She woke up and she was like totally better. I was just like, okay, I understand, like, we don't say things like that. And I said, I don't want you to ever feel like nobody loves you. And I was like trying to say all the like validating things and like you know, her emotions. And I said, Why don't you go upstairs for like, you know, 30 minutes and just hang out by yourself, collect yourself, play in your room. And I said, Do you think do you need a nap? And she's like, Yes. And she just went up there and like took like a 30, 45 minute power nap, came back, good as news. I feel that.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like that's me too. I don't know how to use my words. My mom used to say all the time as a kid, use your words. And I'd be like, Shut up. Apparently, that's not an effective thing to say. You're not supposed to say that. I'm supposed to say that. Add it to the list. Didn't help me because I was like, what the fuck does that mean as you know, a seven-year-old now as an adult? The words I'm using is what I got. But there are still times where I'm having a mental breakdown and Adam's like, what are you? What's going on? And I'm like, I just need to cry. I need to go in the room and cry, come back out.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like a lot of men don't get that where you just need a good cry.

SPEAKER_01

They're wired front where he's like, I just want to fix the issue. And I'm like, there literally isn't any issue. I just need to like emotionally like drain it out.

SPEAKER_00

Like feel that emotion and we can get out.

Do You Want Listening Or Fixing

SPEAKER_00

Being someone that's been married for almost eight years now.

SPEAKER_01

It's like, I don't know how long you're about to say. Mad long.

SPEAKER_00

Mad long. We've been together 12, almost 12. But Gil and I, we had a lot of growing pains in the beginning. And I know he will be like nodding his head yes when he listens to this. Things were tough. Especially, I feel like one of our biggest barriers was that I was, I'm a ventor. Sometimes I just need to like lay it all out. And I just want someone to be like, damn, that sucks. Not in maybe a little more response than that, but like a listen. And he would always be like, Well, you know, did you try this? We started going to couples therapy, you know, a couple years ago. And it was, it was so helpful to us for him to understand that I don't need you to fix my problems. And I think Adam and Gil, obviously, they're best friends, so I feel like they are very similar in that way. Where Adam is also, he fixes things really well.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

In his life, in his job, and for in his free time. Adam put my sink in, shout out. Sometimes you just need someone to fucking just shut up and listen. And I don't need you to fix my problems. These are some of these problems I'm bringing to you are not fixable for you to fix. Like they are not something that you are going to be able to do. And so Gil used to get frustrated, but I don't know what you want me to fucking say. I don't need you to say anything. I just need you to make it work. Right. And it would cause it then turn into an argument. And then him and I would be fighting. I'm like, great, on top of the fact that I'm going through all of these things, now my husband's mad at me. And it was just like the root cause. There's no and then you like think about it, you take a nap and you're like, I don't even really remember like what this fight is about. And so that's one of those things that, you know, with time and experience in our relationship, that Gil being like, he says to me now, if we're having a conversation or if I'm like starting off like I'm coming in hot, okay, do you need do you need me to listen or do you need me to fix advice or yeah, yeah. And I say this to my friend one of my friends who's like a crash out person. I'll be like, Do you need tough or fluff? Do you need tough love or do you need me to like talk you up right now? And so Gil and I, now that he is understands that about me, that is like eliminated like 50% of our argument.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like every time you've asked me if I need tougher fluff, I'm like, I need the fluff.

SPEAKER_00

I know fluff. That's why I say, I will give you fluff all day, baby. I will give you fluff. Yep. But like, do you want my tough you want tough love? And sometimes you feel like, okay, well, obviously you it sounds like you need to give me tough love. Right. Because I need to hear it. But like in the moment, sometimes it's really hard to hear. Right. And it's you're gonna be more receptive once you get that emission emotion out. And then you can come back and hear that tough love. Okay, that kind of reminds me of this topic that I wanted to talk to you guys about that I think you'll have good insight on.

The Truth About Relationships After Baby

SPEAKER_00

So I was on TikTok, of course. That's where I get half of my uh ideas from. So I was watching this TikTok, and it basically was one of those where it was a couple after they had a baby, and they were just talking about how like, don't worry, your relationship will come back. This is rough, but it's gonna come back. It honestly like made me a little angry because I was like, I hate the narrative that social media puts that like your relationship's basically gonna suck and it's gonna struggle because you just had a baby, but don't worry, like it's gonna get better. It doesn't have to be that though. So the fact that we think that that's just oh yeah, like it's stressful. You guys are just gonna hate each other for a couple of years and you'll figure it out or you won't. I hate that. I have a lot of problems with that whole statement. So I think, yes, having a child is going to change the dynamic of your relationship, regardless of if you have the most solid relationship or the most unstable relationship, it's going to fuck things up. Not badly. I'm just meaning like it's gonna turn things, it's gonna rock your world a little bit. And, you know, I think that that's the one thing. It's like it doesn't have to be a negative. It doesn't have, it's going to change the dynamic. It's gonna change your communication, it's going to change your quality time. It's going things are gonna have to be more intentional. You know, it used to be you could just go to dinner on a Tuesday night and make it and then we have sex and go to bed and then wake up at 3 p.m. the next day. You get now those things are not doable. You have to consider, like, okay, now he's fun a babysitter. Second of all, I think that also saying that it's gonna get better, that's blanket saving. Maybe it's just because it's from TikTok and you only have a limited amount of time. It won't get better unless you work on it. And so that's another thing is that Gil and I did, we had a, I will say as an example, we did have a really hard time in the initial phase because Gil and I both, we are very stubborn people, and that was a thing we had to get over in our relationship on its own. And then, you know, we both love our sleep. And these were things that were really challenging for us to change. And so we said a lot of things we didn't mean. I'm one of those people that like I will get mad about shit, but I won't say anything until I blow up. And he would rather me confront him in the moment instead of waiting until it's like, you know, a laundry list of shit that you suck at. And so these are things that I didn't realize were gonna be such a big part of our relationship. And we did dabble with, you know, are we gonna be able to like stick it out? And these are things that are really important for, you know, expectant mothers or people that want to be mothers and people that are going through the thick of it right now with their first child. It will get better, yes, but you have to put in the fucking work and you also have to change the way you communicate. So I had a couple thoughts on it because I feel like I'm on kind of the other side of it where I'm like, I don't like that people just automatically assume that it's a negative stressor onto your relationship. Right. Having a child's gonna bring in different, I don't even want to say stressors because sometimes it's not even that. It's like different things that you need to be aware of or like cognizant about. Yeah. But I mean, it also goes to say that babies aren't gonna fix a relationship. So if your relationship already sucks, it's not gonna get any better. That's literally the worst thing you could do. But I mean, my relationship was very solid before we had kids and then we had kids, and it kind of stayed that way. We didn't really have that issue, and so I hate when I see things that are like automatically it's gonna suck. Wow, you had a kid, like just gear yourself. And I'm like, it's not that's not always the case though. And I think, you know, and before you met Dylan, you were in a relationship that was very different. And I was I mean blessed to be able to have the first not for me, at least to see both, you know, you were in a relationship before and a relationship now, and I feel like that was the best thing that ever happened to you, and it was awful when it happened when you ended things with said person. But I feel like your life would be very different right now if a million times. And I think that's part of the why I feel so strongly about it, because I mean, I have a very healthy, very great relationship overall. But I think part of it is we just met at the right time in life. Yeah. We both had already had serious relationships and learned and grown through like separately from those relationships. So when we met each other, we already came in with like these are the things that are important to me, and this is the shit that I'm not gonna put up with. So if when everything else, you know, marriage, house, things fell into one baby very easily because we both were like you had a solid no bullshit. Yeah, like you already and you went through something traumatic at such a young age. I mean, you're what, four years younger than me? And I feel like you were wise beyond your years. Me at the age that you were when you were engaged to be married when we met, and I was like, damn, like I was still like, you know, it makes me think of Amy Schumer, where she's like, says on a she's like, I woke up with nacho cheese under my nails when I was 23, and you were engaged and had a house, and you had like a whole this whole life. Luckily, that didn't work out the way that it we had originally planned, but I think it taught you a lot of wonderful things that have made, you know, your relationship with Dylan thrive. And I love it's one of the one of the things that I love and that Gil and I have adopted is the like the dirty diaper thing makes me laugh. And it's one of those things like nobody likes to change a dirty diaper, and like Dylan and Taylor have made a game out of it where they will throw diapers at each other and it's and Thoreau is saying it nicely. Yeah, I mean pegs the shit out of each other when they like it's literally like heavy ass diaper, heavy like overnight diaper that's just like fucking drill it at someone's back, and like that kind of makes it like silly to say out loud. It's one of those things that makes the day-to-day of parenting like not so shitty. And it you know, it's sometimes it's those little things in a marriage that really make you feel shit matters. Yeah, Gabby, we've been talking for a while, so I want to hear what you have to say. Sorry to put you on the spot, but your turn's.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I was just thinking about kind of going back to what you said, Taylor. I mean, we had a lot of people actually when I was pregnant say to both of us, like your life's over.

SPEAKER_00

No, are you kidding me? Multiple people. Fuck those people. Okay, no, that makes me sick. I'm hoping you're not friends with them anymore.

SPEAKER_01

No, it was just like kind of random people that would say it to us, which is even worse. You don't even know me. Yeah. Just a little rude, and also like, why would you say that to someone? Like, especially with pregnant beginning, right? So I think that they're divorced. Yeah, I think so, actually. I think you know miserable. We had a solid relationship and we still have a solid relationship. We both very much love each other. We love Boe very much. Yeah. And I I do think that as much as coming home with a newborn baby like brought us so much love, it's definitely brought us a lot of challenges as well and learning how to like kind of re-communicate and not fall back in like my toxic behavior, bad habits. We all communication. And so, like, it's kind of taken us both to like self-reflect and be like, hold on, let's pause for a second. Like, we need to do better, like both of us, not just like putting the blame on you or me. Like, we both need to do better in our communication styles. He says it all the time, which I love. He's like, We are on the same team. Don't be mad at me over something, whatever. Yeah, I'm on your team, like, there's no need. I'm like, you're right.

SPEAKER_00

It's so funny. Gil says the same thing. Like, he's always like, We're we are on the same team. Like, don't try to fight against me. Like, I am on your in your corner, I will always be in your corner. And even in life, with somebody else, he's always, I'm gonna defend you in public, but I will fucking tell you that you are being a psycho once we get home. And I love that about him because he's always like, No, I will always have your back and I will fight to the death for you, but I will tell you you're being an idiot after we get home. And I'm like, Thank you. At least you won't like call me out in public 100%. Don't make me feel like that. Yeah, so that's some of those things kids they change things regardless. They challenge your relationship, but I feel like if you have a strong base in the beginning. Why it's you know imperative that you have a strong base before you have kids. And I know that there are mishaps that happen, and you, you know, you're you get pregnant before you're ready or whatever it is, and it things work out beautifully, and you know, you were meant to be with that person, and at least in our generation now, I feel like a lot more things like that happen where you know you have you get pregnant before you're ready or whatever, and it just you don't have a strong foundation with that person, and like it will fuck things up if there's not a strong solid, you know, communication or whatever. At least that's the friends that I've had that have had experiences like that is what I've witnessed, but it is my two cents on that.

Hobbies, Wine Disasters, And VR Dads

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I thought about this the other day when I was driving. I would like to circle back on last week's episode discussing my lack of hobbies. What's your hope? I would like to circle back and Taylor needs a redemption. Yes, I do have hobbies. She does. And I'm good fun. She's got a list, guys. No, no, no, I don't have that many. I like live music. Yes. You do like a fucking concert, I will say. This is a good thing. I love going to concerts. There's so many concerts. And traveling.

SPEAKER_01

And you like wine.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I do love wine. You do I feel like using alcohol as a hobby. But I can appreciate it. I appreciate wine. It's a wine taste. I feel like going to like uh let's taste the sound. What do they call it? Yeah, tasting a vineyard. Vineyards. Yes. Yeah. I I didn't list that one, but don't like wine. We'll add it. But I will drink it in a right setting.

SPEAKER_01

Speaking of wine, I dropped a whole bottle of wine on the ground and it shattered everywhere.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. If I was having a rough day, that's one of those things. That's the thing that'll make me crash out. It's your 13th reason. Yeah. Because you know you gotta get the vacuum out. You might have to get the mop out because that glass shattered everywhere. And now you're also, you don't have that wine. And then, kids, you gotta worry about your fucking kids. You gotta worry about your stupid ass dogs.

SPEAKER_01

And then, of course, your dog wants to walk over and be like, oh, let me come and pound on this wine glass. I was like, whoa.

SPEAKER_00

Gil and I went to Moonlight. That was that place is so wait, is that cute? We were gonna go there and we were like, nope, let's try this other spot. No, because immediately it's a cocktail car. It it's so cute. It has a giant moon. Yeah. And like on it, I just think it's a good, really cute place to go. And their drinks are really good. They're really good. Gil and I went after was that for my birthday that we went to the mall. Yeah. And I was like, oh, go here. Yeah, we went there. And then we got, I got, I think I got a spicy margarita or some type of margarita that I got at the library. At the library, and then I was like, I'm just gonna keep it going with the tequila. And I got some type of margarita there, and it was so good. And Gil got something manly, like with whiskey in it. We didn't go there. I was like for Gil's night.

SPEAKER_01

Because I went with the Adam and Out, but he was feeling the vibes. So we went to the bar next to Margaret.

SPEAKER_00

I was there in New Year's like a guy who would like be cool drinking outside in the dirt. Like literally just give him like a shovel and a beer and he's good. A lawn mower. Yeah. Just give him a shovel. He's like, I'm gonna fucking dig this hole. Like drink a beer. Drew manly. We love you, Adam. Like get through the phone. Adam, you should feel loved because I feel like one way or another you always end up being talked about in our episodes. He's a loyal listener. Yeah, he's a loyal listener, and that's why we we talk about him so much. Because he also just has great content presses. Yeah, Adam and I have a very complicated slash relationship. Demonstrous. That's a good word to use, but it could be exhaust and it's like a brother-sister relationship.

SPEAKER_01

And me and Gil just sit back and look at it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I know. I used to when Adam and I used to get like verbal screaming matches, and I would look at Gil be like, send me, and he'd be like, nah, you and Adam can figure this shit out on your own. This is stupid. As usual, you guys are arguing about something dumb. Reflecting back, yeah, that was probably stupid. My favorite video of Adam is him using the VR, the Oculus thing where he's like fist fighting the air.

SPEAKER_01

It's stupidest purchase of ever be on.

SPEAKER_00

I'm mad at Adam because he convinced Gil to buy it. And they used it both once, maybe? Maybe for three weeks. Yeah. Maybe for three weeks.

SPEAKER_01

I said you should sell it. He's like, no, but we we wouldn't get much because they've made newer ones.

SPEAKER_00

I know. That's only he literally begged me. Adam like came to me and was like, hey.

SPEAKER_01

Why'd you listen to him?

SPEAKER_00

I felt the pressure. He's like, hey, I just want you like to think about this, like, it's gonna be really fun. Like a little kid trying to be like, please be nerdy as fuck with our virtual reality on. And Adam's like, this is my workout. I'm like, you're punching the air.

SPEAKER_01

I have a video of him just punching the air.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. It's so funny. I feel like it's one of those things you have to do in private. Like, you can't be around other people with your virtual reality. Everybody's just sitting there judging, and you don't even Adam made the poor choice, and now Gil and I have uh so many videos of him doing some dumb shit. I would totally win in a fight with Adam. At least back then. Hopefully you learned a few skills that from your time with the air fighting because back then not great. Not great. The technique? Could you still work?

SPEAKER_01

Like, yeah, that's fucking funny.

SPEAKER_00

It's just like sound effects. Oh

Name Changes And Being Called Kathy

SPEAKER_00

yeah. Yeah, one of the things on my to-do list today is to try to find the life. I got married and it took me about two years to go to the DMV. You still change your last name. I got to be, I have changed my last name. So I changed it with Social Security because that was easy. You can make an appointment and go. Waiting in a room that I can't leave because I I have to be there is one of my worst times. So that's why it took me so long to go to the DMV. Made an appointment, got my new license, changed my last name. So now it's changed with the DMV and Social Security. So I guess that makes me essentially a bummer. But now I can't find that ID. What do you mean? The one you just got? Yeah, the one with my new last name. So now I need to like change my last name on everything else. Like I'm pretty sure that I have to because I still have well, like my credit card. So I guess I have my old license, so that still matches, but like I need to change my nursing license and like all my medical. I don't think you have to show your ID.

SPEAKER_01

I think you need to show you.

SPEAKER_00

There's a lot of things that are like marriage license. Oh my god. Yeah. I have to be it took me five years. I know. I remember texting you and being like, wait, how do I do this? How do I feel like this? I'm lucky because I got married right before COVID, but still waited two years to get my name changed at all. And then 2020 or 2021, I decided to change my name with Social Security and they weren't doing in-person appointments. So I could do it online. The thing is if you want to change your middle name to So I was gonna go Lara Caitlin Parson. They sent it back to me and they were like, nah, I guess you can't change your middle name from your last your maiden name to another name unless you like go in per I don't really know, but they totally disregarded that. But anyway, so no Katie at all. Yeah, what it's which I'm I'm gonna eventually probably change it, but I just me going to the DMV took five years to do it when I got married. And like most people were like, I'm so excited to change my name.

SPEAKER_01

That wouldn't be six months.

SPEAKER_00

No, it's so weird to me now because like when I make reservations or an appointment, I still say Taylor Egan, and I'm like, Taylor Baumgarner just isn't rolling off the tongue. Yeah, I say like it will. I kind of get imposter syndrome where I'm like, that's not my name.

SPEAKER_01

Whenever I have to say my phone now new name, Adam, I he's in the behind me and pan now.

SPEAKER_00

He's just smiling and so excited and like I also want to say that Gabby was excited to change her name because it's Polish, and she let one of her best friends in the whole world go years with mispronouncing it. She's so nice that she fucking did ever say anything to me. And then she left, what did you leave your debit card or your driver's license at that restaurant? She left her credit card at a restaurant, and then she they were like, Oh, what's your last name? And she said it. Yeah. And she said it, and I just whipped my head around and I said, The fuck, you've been letting me mispronounce your name for years. And she's like, Well, you were close. Yeah, I'm like, no, no, no, no. Because you don't really care at that point. It was changing. I will like straight up, I get so annoyed. Like yesterday went to Chick-fil-A, and this is a regular thing. Chick-fil-A with the name. They say Kathy in no fucking universe is my name have an H in it. Where do you get Kathy out of Katie? My mom's name is Lori, and Chick-fil-A put Gloria.

SPEAKER_02

It's like Gloria.

SPEAKER_00

Like, I'm literally I'm doing a mobile order. So, like, you're not like you're it's not like miscommunication. So, did give you put Kathy in?

SPEAKER_01

Who? No, it is Katie.

SPEAKER_00

I know this is it's a mobile order. Like, I have my name in there with my credit card information. They're just stupid. And they say Kathy, and it's not just Chick-fil-A, it is everywhere. Most of the time with Chick-fil-A, I'm just like, Oh yeah, I can totally picture it. You're like, it's Katie. Yeah. Katy Heron. It's pronounced like Katie. The other day I went to get my massage yesterday and they called me because naturally I was 10 minutes late. And they're like, Hi, is this Kathy? And I said, It's Katie. It's not. And I'm pulling in. I was so annoyed. Like, they literally set the tone of that conversation. It was like 20, not even 20 seconds. I'm like, you can't read there's no H. I just don't know. I wonder if they're like trying, they're like, oh, that must be a typo. She must have forgotten, forgotten the H because you spell Katie differently. Yeah, but there are more than I'm not the only person on the face of the earth that spells it K-A-T-Y. It just that boggers. Also, I'm not 60. Yeah, and also it's really important to me, hence why I was so annoyed with Gabby that she let me go years without with mispronouncing her name. Like, I don't want to tell call someone by an incorrect incorrect name. Because I feel like people, you know, they want to be called by their actual name.

SPEAKER_01

I just hate when people mispronounce my first name. Or they spell it wrong. I'm like, it's Gabriella. Well, Gil and I call you Gabriella. No, people are like on purpose. Gabriel. Gabriella. Gabriella. They're like Gabriel. I'm like, who? Gabriel.

SPEAKER_00

Am I a Hispanic man? I'm not a man. I'm a female. Like, I am a man's funny express.

SPEAKER_01

So Gabrielle.

SPEAKER_00

I said Gabriella. Yeah. There is a A on the end. Annunciate your vowels. People used to call me Jordan, my brother's name, and then him Taylor, because we both have names that could go either way. True. Yeah. I feel like it used to irritate Jordan. A couple things. For whatever reason, I was laying in bed the other night, not thinking about your brother that way, but just was thinking about Jordan. What is Jordan's middle name? What is it? It's Austin. Okay. Oh, okay. All right. I thought it was something else. And I was like, I hid I thought What did you think it is? I was like, no, I couldn't remember, but I was like, I remember thinking like it was another gender neutral name. And I was just like, what is it? And I just was like, fuck it, I'm just gonna have to say what I see her. Yep. He is Austin. Austin. Okay. It's a good middle name. It is. Jaw. J-A-A. Jaw. Ja. Yeah. So you're Gabriella G-L, now you're Gl. You're Gabriella Lee Linnick. L L. Did you drop the Derek? All the all the Okay. I figured you would. Didn't you get it tattooed? That's enough? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's enough. I didn't want that to be. So Jordan's family, but I didn't want that. Ja.

SPEAKER_00

And you're gonna and you're Tab. What am I? Whenever I find my license, I'm wool. This is not good content. People heard me like, and skip. Just talking about nonsense. But yeah, once I find my license, I don't know. It was one of those things where I was like, okay, I definitely switched it to my other wallet where maybe I like didn't bring my wallet and just put my card and ID in the purse. But no, no, even then, I searched on my it's gone.

SPEAKER_01

Just renew it online and get one back.

SPEAKER_00

I know, but it was $16. And I was like, let me just renew. But I was like, let me just actually put in some effort to find it. And if I really can't, then I'll order it. And then I can change my last name. I feel like things like that, like that are really important, you should they're like you should have like an air tag or like a chip into it where you can like find it. Like you can find your phone with your watch. For me, I feel like I only lose important things, which is really shitty. Oh yeah, I lost my marriage license. Taylor, you're one of the most responsible people I know, and you only lose really important documents or your phone. Yeah, Dylan holds the passports when we travel. Which that's crazy, but that's wild. It's better. I mean, my track history is not great. That Dylan would be trusted. I also never bring a phone charger, so Dylan brings the phone charger. Taylor's phone is always on 10%. Always. Which, like, that's one of the qualities of you that I envy is that I, if I cannot communicate with someone, because if I get in a situation I need to get out of, I need to have a fully charged phone. I thought twitched. Like, what if you like got roofied or something and you woke up in like an alley and then you had no idea where you were? What if you were in like Mexico and had no way to roofied? Why would I be down there by myself? No, I mean like if you got like brought across the board or something. Oh wow. Like like a well, they probably would take my phone. Well, they wouldn't need to because it'd be fucking dead. Like she would have done bed running.

SPEAKER_01

She could run the cartel.

SPEAKER_00

So that's fair. That's fair. She's really good with money. I feel like she'd be really good with drugs too. Hey. The two kind of go hand in hand. Yeah. They do. As we're doing this podcast, I'm like, what do I do with my hands?

Potty Training Bribes And Clogged Toilets

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'd just be doing a lot of weird shit. Oh, I forgot to mention I had a pee when we took a break. Definitely just sat on Charlie's bull potty. See, did it work? It did.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, okay. I've been taking it off because my fat ass would sit on there and break it.

SPEAKER_00

It wasn't like I just like didn't even think about it. And I'm like, wait, this isn't my house. I should probably move this, but it was too late. It was too late. Whatever. I just peed on it. Sorry, Charlie. We just started the potty training. How's it going? I mean, like, we haven't like fully invested in it yet. Did you do the MM's? No, no. Like, we haven't even like okay. We're just like slowly introducing it where she'll be like, oh, I want to use the potty, and then she'll sit there and just like get the whole roll of toilet paper and shove it in the toilet. So that's where we're at. Gil and I, that was, I mean, again, I don't know, talk to me after potty train crew because I've heard boys are harder. But with Noah, we never made it a thing. Like, there's these like books that's like potty train in three days and putting all this pressure on it. And Gil and I just started to like introduce it. We just did pull-ups and during the day. And then we would just do, hey, Noah, do you want to try to sell the potty? You can have some MMs. We'd be like, two MMs for a pee, or one MM for a pee, two MMs for a poop, whatever. And kids highly motivated with MMs. And she we were so ours will be gummies. Yeah. Noah goes, she used to go num num for the potty. And we're like, absolutely I'm for the potty. And that kid potty trained so quick because she was just like, absolutely, if I get to shit on this toilet, I can have MM's. And it worked. I mean, it took like it was just a few weeks of us just like putting pressure on it. Yeah. And that was kind of what we're doing. The best part was just like all these people are like potty train in three days. Don't leave your house. Put every plastic down so that you're gonna be cleaning messes. And I'm just like, no, like I get that. We're but like I don't have three days that I'm just gonna stay in this house. No, no, it wasn't. We actually thought about doing it this weekend because I'm like off for a big break, but no, I'm just gonna go. But like you could just like do it like you're doing it. That's what I'm saying. Like every 45 minutes, I'm like, hey, let's go sit on the toilet and bribe her with her favorite snack of choice. But she does think she has to get completely naked to use the toilet. So does my husband. I'm just kidding. Did I tell you guys that Noah's clogged the toilet like six times? Yeah, yeah. Yes. No, her reason for it is so funny. So I was thinking like she was just like using tons and tons of toilet paper. Not because she's got a massive heater that she just dropped. She's four, so her poops are normal size, I guess, but she was just putting tons and tons of toilet paper, and I'm like, girl, too much, too much toil paper. And she told me it was really stinky. And I was like, okay, I get that. That's it. That's great. So, but she like thought the more toilet paper that she could like cover the stink. She's like, it makes the whole house stink.

SPEAKER_01

And I was like, That's so cute.

SPEAKER_00

I know it was so cute. I like couldn't be mad at her. I was like, good thing we shop at Costco because otherwise we'd be fucked.

SPEAKER_01

Thank God it's not pandemic.

SPEAKER_00

Bankrupting us with toilet paper. I was like, I'm so sick of plunging turds out of my toilet. Noah, stop using. And she was like, Well, it's really smelly. I'm like, okay, well, we don't use toilet paper to mask scent. Yeah. Okay. Give us some pooprey. Yeah, we got spray. I got spray spray in the toilet. The go before you wait, poo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go before you, yeah. Spray before you go or some shit. Isn't that what poopree is? Yeah, the brand. Yeah, anyways.

SPEAKER_01

It does work. We've been running through diapers like it's no one's business. Because Boys just when you start an antibiotic, it just goes through. Yeah.

Medicine Drama And A Mezcal Rant

SPEAKER_01

It's not like I have to fight him on that. Is it bubbledum flavoring? It is. And he's like, wow, this is the best thing I've ever had. Which is gross to me.

SPEAKER_00

But yeah, so that's um it's poor, but I was not a good medicine taker. Were you guys good medicine takers? I don't know. Probably. My mom, as soon as I could swallow anything, like without choking to death, yeah, no, that was you need to just take pills because I used to like swallow the medicine and would vomit. Oh yep. So that happened to me, but I was like 11, way too old. But why are they still giving me liquid? It was I had pneumonia pretty bad. And so I had to take my antibiotics and it was like a whole thing twice a day, and it was thick and white and gross. And I remember sitting at my kitchen table being like, Yeah, it's like a whole thing.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, but when you take Acintane, did you take that? Because those pills holy fuck were gigantic. I don't remember them being like that thick. I wasn't a good pill taker of I can take it.

SPEAKER_00

I saw like 16 pills right now in my I mean. I'll take a pill over a liquid a hundred percent. I will take the largest pill you got. Those were I'll take a suppository like in my mouth. Like the the size, not like an actual suppository, but I mean the size of a suppository.

SPEAKER_01

I didn't think we were going with that one.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think you need it up your butt. No. I mean like the size a suppository is like a potassium pill. I would take that over the powder. Oh, yeah. That powder is.

SPEAKER_01

But that like that was how big the accutane pills were. And for me as a child-ish teenager, I was not good at taking pills.

SPEAKER_00

Gil's really bad at taking pills too. Like he takes his like centroid, which is like the tiniest size. It's literally the size of a crumb. And he like throws his neck back and like is like acts like he's gotta like yeet it to the back of his throat before he can swallow. I'm like, I literally just put them like into my tongue, throw it back, swallow. And it'll be like seven pills. And he's just like tiny little synthroid has to like throw his whole fucking head back. I'm like, get a glass of water, damn. I know. I did have this patient the other day, 17. I can't swallow pills. And I'm like, you realize this is almost 40 mls of Tylenol. And you did he rather have the liquid? Yeah. And I'm like, do you understand how many I have to open up in order to get four almost we have are five mls? They are, yep. So that's a lot. Stand in your room at 3 a.m. Like, your phones are hurting. Yeah, five kids. Yeah, my mom was like, as soon as you can figure out how to swallow a pill, we're done with this shit. She's like, I cannot mentally handle the the drama that comes with you taking medicine. Yeah. My brother would be like, which maybe he was a red flag that he was just like, I'm down for whatever. Whatever you give me, I'll just shoot it back. I was like, absolutely not. I'm not taking none of that shit. And to this day, like Gil used to drink those, my god, I'm gonna throw this thing about it, those greens. No. And the the powdered green. I'm super weird about superfoods. Like they were like the little container of like, and he most people who were not a psychopath will put it in like a smoothie or something. Yeah, that's what I used to do. Gil would just fucking mix water in it and shoot it. That's and he uh tried to get me to do it, and I like almost threw up everyone. He's like, You such a man. I'm like, it literally tastes like dirt. Dirt. And I'm sorry, I don't like dirt. I don't eat dirt. And he's just like, it sucks, but like it's not bad. I'm like, it sucks. He knows it's it's yeah, it tastes bad, but he's like, you should be able to do it. You're a grown woman. Like, nope, I know as a grown woman that I can't do it. So that's that's my boundary. I will not drink it. I don't do gross tasting. Yeah, no, I'm I'm super weird about liquids. Dylan can just like drink anything in 0.5 seconds. But he's like, you need to take emergency. You're starting to get a sniff on like no you're starting to get a sniff. No, no. Have you guys ever had Mezcal?

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So I was Giggly Squad was talking about that the other day, and it made me think of this time that I was when I was living in Miami. My travel partner and I were at this restaurant, I think it was called the Cuba Cuba Libre. It was really good. I've been to a Cuba, it was really good. And they she ordered margarita, but didn't realize it had was a mezcal margarita, and she which like she's from Florida. I feel like I don't know, I've never heard of Mezcal before this, but living in a you know a highly dense Latina population, maybe it's so it was a popular drink, apparently. And she ordered it and got it and was like, This, this is bad. She was convinced it was someone, something was wrong with it. Said to the waitress, was like, this is terrible. And I took a sip, it was the most disgusting thing I've ever had in my life. I was blown away. This is not drinkable. It's not, and it cannot be as bad as my spicy mark last night. I don't know. Mezcal literally tastes like smoke. It's it's smoky tequila, it's so disgusting, and it's not like an authentic, you know, like a genuine like smoke taste. Like when you eat like roast a marshmallow over a fire, it's got a little bit of a like smoky flavor. No, this tastes like artificial smoke, whichever, whatever that fucking tastes like, tastes like shit. And she was like, This is bad. I don't want this.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know who orders Mezcal, but like I don't know anyone that likes it.

SPEAKER_00

It's just they need to take it off the market. I feel like I've had it before, and I feel you don't even like I liked it. No, but I can't confirm that.

SPEAKER_02

We'll have to order it.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like and now I'm not gonna order it. I don't want to buy it because it's gross. And Taylor would take one sip of it and realize she hates it like the rest of the universe, and we just have a bottle of mezcal that we'd have to do. No, I would need it like in a good mixture. You could still it's the only thing you taste. I don't feel like you have had it if you don't remember. I feel like I have because I remember you telling me how bad it is, and then I don't know if it's a really good drink then, because I've never had a mezcal drink that actually tasted. Either or like it was like a watermelon or a spicy margarita, and it was like the only thing I tasted was mezcal. I was like, ugh. I can't get watermelon flavored. I hate watermelon flavors.

SPEAKER_02

As you're drinking.

SPEAKER_00

As I'm drinking a watermelon, heydad. Watermelon would be great, whatever. One of those flavors where they're super artificial. I love watermelon. Watermelon. Watermelon is the one fruit, an artificial fruit I will always eat. Do you remember Ghost?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I do like those. They had which one?

SPEAKER_00

Ghost is like the pre-workout. They had the like sour warhead pre-workout, and it was like super sour, and it was watermelon flavored, and oh my god. I can't handle sour. Oh, I like that. Like my taste buds are so sensitive to sour. I'll like freak out. No. It's like torturous for me to eat them. I'm like, I will eat it until my tongue is like bleeding. That's how Dylan is. And I'm like, I just need a few and

Final Laughs And Sign-Off

SPEAKER_00

I'm good. I was gonna say we could probably wrap it up for this week. This beautiful Sunday. I gotta make some meatballs. Meatballs. Albundigas? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I guess.

SPEAKER_00

Albundigas is meatballs in Spanish. Yes. I'm not a good Spanish. Meatballs of meat. Her mother is a full Puerto Rican woman and she doesn't speak Spanish.

SPEAKER_01

I can order.

SPEAKER_00

How am I telling you she can order McDonald's for me? I mean, to be fair, if you needed to know Spanish, meatball would be pretty far down on the list of would it? Words that would be. I eat a I'm eating more meatballs in my life. Mullah. Mullah. I love a good meatball. But yeah, Gabby did order me a sandwich and a coffee from McDonald's in Puerto Rico. To my surprise, in Puerto Rico, which you'd think, I mean it's US territory, it ain't like the US down there. Nobody, it's fucking McDonald's, the most American thing in the world. They don't speak English if you're trying to order it. And I'm just sitting there like deer in headlights, and Gabby's like, I got you, bitch. And Cafe Corleche. And what was it? So she knows Spanish when it counts. Yeah. She did give me we she did recommend the most wonderful food on the planet, which is Elma Song. Which is basically fast. It traveled to traveled from Puerto Rico to RDU. Because I was like, Gil, you have to have this sandwich. Well, thanks for listening, guys, and participating in our fucking run-on sentence of conversation. Run-on thought processes. Until next week. Like, subscribe. Follow while this shit, the things you're supposed to say. All the things you should do. Yeah. And remember, motherhood isn't perfect, neither are we. Laugh, swear, hug your kids, sip your drink. You're mammish, and that's enough. Bye for now.

SPEAKER_02

Bye, bitch.