Backyard Botox By Gabi

The conversation starts with a ridiculous headline worthy of a group chat “the bush is making a comeback” and somehow turns into a very real look at what it means to be a mom in your 30s trying to keep up with beauty trends, self-care, and the mental load. We talk laser hair removal, hair appointments, nail expectations, and why paying for a service sometimes means speaking up even when it’s awkward. Then we slide into the “treat yourself” pipeline: pedicures, budgeting for maintenance, and the not-so-hypothetical idea of Botox, including what can go wrong if you don’t respect anatomy. 

From there, we get honest about the thoughts that sneak in when you’re tired and you know too much especially health anxiety. We laugh about childhood fears like quicksand and tornadoes, but we also talk about the scary stuff that’s not funny when you’ve seen it up close in healthcare. It’s that exact Momish mix of humor and reality: we can be joking one minute and deeply reflective the next because that’s what modern motherhood feels like. 

The heart of the episode is the mom confessions and the parenting dilemmas nobody solves for you. Kids eating dog food, leaving the house with two kids, the gas station question, and how “just bring them” ignores the two-hour prep it takes to do anything. We also share the bittersweet emotions of watching babies grow up, navigating discipline and biting, and finally winding down with skincare in your 30s, hormonal acne, rebuilding your skin barrier, and the one thing we’ll always preach: daily SPF. If you laughed, cringed, or felt seen, subscribe, share the episode with a mom friend, and leave a review so more people can find us.

Transcript

Pubic Hair Trends And Laser Talk

SPEAKER_00 0:20

All right. Hey guys, welcome to Momish. I'm Gabby. I'm Katie. And I'm Kaylee. And this is your weekly yap session. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

Welcome back. Um. So I have recently learned some news. Apparently the bush is making a comeback. Were you guys aware of this?

SPEAKER_02 0:38

Like the vag bush? The vag bush. Okay. I mean, I get it.

SPEAKER_01 0:42

Why is it that pubic hair is like has trends of its own?

SPEAKER_02 0:46

Because it's, I don't know, it's just very like obvious. You're like, oh, whoa, you have a bush. Like it's like, you know what I'm saying? Like it condemns to be seen.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

You don't want to land in. Ours was like naked, like bald. Oh yeah. And now that it's like a bush. And then I feel like back in the 70s definitely was like a bush. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

Have you ever watched 70s porn? No. Full frontal. Like I'm a full bush. No. It's like, you know, porn stash, like Ron Jeremy, like vintage. Vintage can venture it. But yeah, it's I don't know. Yeah, just the I'm not really into the bush. I don't know. I can't get on board with it. I'm still alive. I have to know hard hard enough. Yeah. I know the kiddies is hairless. I can't do like landing strip. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

Some guys like that, but I'm like I know when I was doing laser, there were people that wanted you to laser them in like a triangle or like leave a strip. It's like a like I was actually surprised. Interest. Yeah. I feel like really you sure? Yes. You sure you want to do it? I mean, they can change their mind and get it all, but once it's lasered, it's I don't know what to go on. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 1:50

So like with laser, do you have to continue to get it like maintenance so it doesn't start to grow back?

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Yeah. I mean I guess it depends how well it t gets like it takes the laser. Because you have to have certain like hair color and texture that I don't know how to describe it. Like white, white, blonde hair perfect.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

So Taylor is like your ideal candidate. Like no other way. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:13

Oh, so if you have dark darkness hair that cannot grow back for the laser to take it, like to for it to really work, but you should go back and get HR. Being discriminated against. Yeah. That's the blonde community. Again. The blonde community. I've decided I do want to go back blonde. Oh. Lauren's gonna beat your ass. I know. But you know, I my hair's still not recovered all the way. So I gotta wait. She's probably not gonna do it. She's gonna be like, girl, no. I'm just like okay, whatever you say. She's not you know best.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

I love her because she's not one of those hairstylists that's gonna be like, oh yeah, whatever, like you want. I and then your hair will like be like burnt and well, I don't want to go full blonde.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

I can't do that.

SPEAKER_02 2:56

Just like some highlights. Well, yeah. She might, yeah. I mean, she might be able to, but I feel like all that at the bottom is gonna high your she's probably gonna want you to cut it off.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Yeah, she's good though. She'll be like, no. That's what you need in a hairstylist.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

So you need them to be like, I honestly just want her to tell me, like, just give me, tell me what to do. Just do my hair however you want. Yeah. I need to go see her.

SPEAKER_02 3:19

I wonder, she had I dad tell you she broke her hand, right? Yeah. So she had like when I went last, she had an apprentice with her who like spent for I was there for like four hours. So I spent an hour blow-drying my hair. And I'm like, I if I was on a time crunch, I'd be pissed, but like I have nothing to do today. So it's even not.

SPEAKER_01 3:36

That's my worst nightmare is sitting in a chair. That's why I don't get my nails done anymore. Because I physically can't sit still for that long.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

Well, Nancy is great, she can do my nails in like an hour. And it's it's a lot. Yeah, I don't know. I don't mind, but you know, I feel like you guys don't want to ever go with me anymore because of past issues.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Katie's nail experience. Yeah. Chronicles.

SPEAKER_02 4:01

I was talking to my coworkers about it, and this girl I work with, she was like, oh my god, I would hate getting my nails done with you guys. Because I was like, because I'm one of those people that will be like, you need to fix this. And she is like, oh my god, like I would literally just be like, it it could be fucking sideways, and I won't say anything. I'm like, soon that's insane to me. Like that if you could have a completely fucked up manicure, pay a hundred dollars, walk out and not say anything.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

And you're like, this is terrible.

SPEAKER_02 4:27

No, and I've always baby.

Hair Appointments And Nail Drama

SPEAKER_01 4:30

I do love a good press on. I can't. I can't. It will not stay on. Well, yeah. Ashley has that problem. Like, she'll do the exact same prep that I do. And mine will last two weeks, and like by the end of the day, like you got oily nails or something.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

Yeah. I mine will literally pop off. Pop off like within an hour.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

I don't know. That sucks.

SPEAKER_00 4:51

I just decided that I need something to treat myself once a month, and right now it's my nails, and I deserve it. Pedicure. Yeah. For sure. You deserve it. So right now the nail nail, like manicure is what it is. It might switch to a pedicure and it might switch to my hair, and eventually it's gonna switch to Botox.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

Why don't you see your nails and toes?

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Because I feel rushed. And it's like I always go at like 5 p.m. after work. Don't do that. Because it's just easy. It's right down the road. Yeah. But and it's not as busy as like a weekend. I don't have to really make an appointment.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

So I usually would I'll go like in the morning after I get off work.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

That's that used to be hard for me. I'd be like falling asleep. Being an NP, can you get Botox? I took a course. Yeah, yeah. I can. What do you mean? I can put it. Like if she knew how to do Botox, could she do our Botox?

SPEAKER_00 5:38

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

She just has to take the course.

SPEAKER_00 5:40

I have taken a Botox. You have. Oh, you have? I just need more price.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

Where would you get the Botox for?

SPEAKER_00 5:44

You can order it. Yeah. If you have a license. Yeah. I can order. Hello. I can order. Apparently I can order a lot of things for people. What the fuck are we doing? Yeah. I'm upset that you've been in MP for like years.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

I'm a little behind. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:00

Well, the fuck.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

We could be cashing out on your end. I'm over here like trying to f put it into my budget, and you're over here that we could just buy it. You could buy it and pay me like 30 bucks.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:11

Order for you. I mean, how does it- how much is it everybody?

unknown 6:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

I don't know. Let me figure it out and just take a refresher course, watch a couple YouTube videos. For what? The Botox? Yeah. Yeah. Obviously. Don't paralyze our face. Well, even if I I don't think I would do that. I just need to learn the anatomy a little better, and then I got you.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

Yeah, I prefer you to know the anatomy of my face. So you don't give me like a fucking lazy eye forever. Well because I don't know if our friendship would survive sterilizing my It's not gonna last. Like the stroke face forever. Like, have you guys seen Christmas with the Cranks? Oh yeah. When he's like the the peaches and he's like and he's just like throws it in the back of it to start you down.

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Speaking of like brought me to another place.

SPEAKER_02 6:53

I have seen that one. That's still nice. That's our favorite.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

That is my do you guys have like this is my worst nightmare things. Like one of the things I think about, obviously in healthcare, I think a lot, like, am I gonna get myastenia gravis or bell's palsy? I think about that a lot. Bell's palsy. That kind of freaks me out. And it might go away.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

It might not. Right. Yeah. Myastinia gravis, that one, it's more Guillaume Bray or Belgium. That scares me. Because like the way you remember it in school, it was like mine to ground or like mine to ground and then Guillain Bray is ground to brain. So you're literally slowly getting paralyzed. New fear unlocked. Like, and it's not one of those things it's like, oh, it's hereditary. It can just fucking happen.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

Like, no, like if you have a bad pole. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

Yeah. I don't know. I try not to think too deeply about those things.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

Yeah, that's why I'm on Lexa Pro now, because I think was, I don't know if you guys were like me, but I thought there's a couple things that I thought were gonna be bigger issues in my adult life when I was a kid. 100%. Number one, quicksand. Yes. Um I think about that a lot. I literally was like, this is a problem. Like I'm going to encounter this. It's like a sinkhole kind of thing. I didn't. I thought quicksand was tornadoes. Tornadoes? I thought tornadoes were sterier than hurricanes. Apparently, definitely not. Tornadoes are like, I mean, obviously we can lose our loss. It can be bad, but like could go to all. However, hurricanes, devastation. They don't make movies about hurricanes, though. Like way worse. Like Hurricane Katrina, hello, you're still recovering. I think about that. Yeah. Number two. Mad cow disease. So then I find out, oh, mad cow disease is silly. Like, just you don't don't eat the bad meat. Right. Like that's the only way you can get it. No, actually, it's called Kreuzfeld-Jacob syndrome. And it is that's the actual like medical name for mad cow. Because I guess cows are the only ones that could technically get mad cow. But the Kreutzfeld Jakob just can happen.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

I have two patients with that.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

And it's literally there, it's a death sentence. And the only way they can fully officially diagnose it is doing a like a brain biopsy after your death. I have heard about this. Yeah. So it can be autoimmune. It's really sad. And I have seen two cases at my job. Yeah. Wow. And dude, this man, it was literally the worst, one of the worst deaths I've witnessed. So anyway, not to make it sad, but like definitely something I was like, oh, that's scary. And then I realized not a big deal. And then now as an adult, you're like, nope, it is. It actually is a really big deal and it can happen. Not because you ate rancid meat or whatever, just for fucking no reason at all.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

That and the brain, I don't know what it's called, the worms in your brain from like pork. I think about this a lot.

SPEAKER_02 9:41

I don't really fuck with pork. I don't fuck with pork like that. Yeah. I'm about to stop. Like I I'll like eat a piece of bacon like here and there. Not. But no, I'm not. I don't stop.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

Fuck.

SPEAKER_00 9:55

I do love a hot dog though. I do love a hot dog. I see. I've started to slow down because it freaks me out.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

I'll say, you know, y'all. Slow down on your hot dogs. Yeah, maybe I should stop eating cold hot dogs. Oh, yeah. You

Botox Plans And Health Anxiety

SPEAKER_02 10:05

should just continue. I don't never do that. I don't anyway. It was it was one.

SPEAKER_01 10:10

It was one time. It it's cooked though. It is, but still it was a crazy thing to experience. It was.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

Just taking a hot dog out of the package and putting it on the bottom.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

Hogging it. Yeah. Literally, rolling it. Literally. Us seveners do weird shit.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

That is true. That is true. All right, mom confession of the week. Anyone?

SPEAKER_00 10:29

Um I have one from a while ago. Didn't save too much, but I was feeding the dogs, and you know, like I gotta feed them, and I have Bowie with me, and a piece must have fallen out. And I'm looking at Bowie, I'm like, why are you drooling all over the place? And I'm like smelling him. I'm like, you fucking ate this dog food.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

Oh my god. I didn't know what you were gonna do. And that that's when you give your kid away. But he literally was like jumping.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Oh yeah, no. It's like bruh. Disgusting. My kids eat dog food at least once a week. I was like, now your whole outfit smells like dog food. My kids have never eaten dog food. I've eaten dog food, but I was like seven and I wanted to try.

SPEAKER_02 11:07

But y'all have dogs that like take their time to eat their food and well, my dogs, it's gone within 14 seconds. Like yeah, if you like don't make sure CB doesn't he will eat all the other dogs too. Because he's so fast. But yeah, no, my kids, I also have the dog's food separated by behind a baby gate. Uh because that's how our cat food is. I ain't fucking with that. Oh shit, yeah. Not the bad cat litter. Cruz can't mess with that. Cruz found the dog water bowl. Oh, so that's Violet's favorite.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

So if he's crawling for her, then he's in there. Who else got one?

SPEAKER_01 11:42

I guess I do. Last night last night I went out for some drinks. Okay. And Dylan had to pick me up at 1 30 a.m. Which means he had to wake my kids up and put them in the car to come get me from far.

SPEAKER_02 11:58

That's actually I'm not I'm probably gonna get some hate for this one, but and I I'm just saying I'm just thinking it out loud. I probably would never do it. But could you just like if you're like gonna like run down the street to pick somebody up, like leave them at home? Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

I mean that's a little farther.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Yeah, no, this is far. This is downtown.

SPEAKER_02 12:15

Okay, yeah, like okay, I have a question, and then I'll go to my mom confession.

SPEAKER_00 12:19

I wonder if it's the same question I'm thinking of. It might be.

SPEAKER_02 12:22

One, two, three. Going into the gas station. Do you leave your kid in the car or do you take him in?

SPEAKER_01 12:27

No, I struggle with this, and so then it makes me avoid going into gas station.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

Going into the gas station.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

So, like, if you were gonna go like get an energy drink, like you're not like doing like a full scan of the store, like, oh, maybe I'll grab a piece of candy, maybe I'll get this, that. It's like I know what I'm getting, I get in and get out. And I've done it once, and I'm so afraid. Because obviously I'm gonna leave the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

No, Dylan doesn't. Dylan leaves them. Okay. So he leaves the car on. Yeah, because then you're able to lock the car.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

I did it the one time and it was at the gas station up the street, and and half the time. You're like sprinting through the gas. Like, ma'am, are you okay? I'm like, somebody's gonna see me and report me to like CPS. It's like, do I bring two children? Oh, girl. One in a in a fucking car seat, and then the other one that's in a like baby carrier, absolutely gas station to get one drink to get a drink. No, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

No, that's why there's been times where Dylan's been like, hey, can you stop and get a gallon of milk? And I'm like, no, I can't though. Yeah, because I have the children. You see.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

Yeah, it's just like it's not the thing is, and I this is what I want. The I feel like they don't understand. Oh, just bring the kids. Like, you don't get it. Right. First of all, do you realize the amount of prep? Like, I need I need two hours in advance. Like, don't just hit me up, like, hey, we're about to go do this. I need it, I need notice because one, I gotta make sure my kid has napped. If he has not, it's gonna be a rough time. Right. Number two, I gotta make make sure we got bottles. You gotta make sure we got this and that. Like, it's just you gotta make sure you got extra diapers. Snap. Blah, blah, blah. Snack.

SPEAKER_01 13:57

It's like a two-hour prep. And I will say that is one thing from one kid to two kids is one of the biggest changes ever. Yep. One kid's not that bad. It's not. It's really not that bad. I took it for granted, Gabby. A hundred percent. Appreciate that. Bringing two though, and it's not just the amount of stuff, it's having to coordinate two kids' schedules to do one thing. Right. So, like your nap time for nap, but like also like, are you both fed? Like, do I have food that you both will eat? Like, do I need a stroller for just you? And then whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

It's just so much. And so, like, just being able to like go get lunch with somebody. I'm like, I need like at least two business days. It's like you need to let me know because it's just it's a lot, and like I have to be in the right mindset, I have to be like well rested. Like, it's just because it's it's a lot. I mean, going to the berry patch literally took me out.

SPEAKER_03 14:55

Like, I was unwell.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

I will say I do a lot of stuff with the two of them. Yeah, but it's a lot, it's a lot.

SPEAKER_02 15:04

If my kid didn't weigh the size of a toddler, it would maybe make it a little bit easier. I mean, I love having a healthy, sizable kid, but Jesus Christ, he's so fucking heavy. Yeah. And that is an added layer of stress. Like, cause I thought bringing a stroller in the berry patch was a good idea, and then just like fucking off-roading it and the berry. I'm like, this, and so I'm trying to carry him. Yeah. And I'm sweating profusely.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

It was just, it was a lot. And so yeah. I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but I'm actually and I don't want to rush time away, but I am actually excited for them to start walking.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

Because it it honestly is nice to be like, come with me. Not like I'll have to pick you up and then we're gonna walk to the kitchen and then put you back down. It's like just come. Yeah. And I mean, my house is already like childproof, so like all that is done, yeah, done.

SPEAKER_02 15:54

Yeah, but yeah, Kim pretty much gets wherever he needs to go, like, even though he's not walking, but yeah, he like has now he does the walker and kid fucking flies, ran straight into my toe this morning. It's not like a cute little like love tap. He literally just like takes off and then like lifts his legs, so he like flies. Oh he has figured it out and he fucking drilled my toe this morning. And you know what I really hate? This is like an ADD thought, is when someone asks if you're okay when you're makes so much pain. Like, obviously, I'm not. Yeah, like you obviously screamed in pain, and I'm literally like the double dove, and you're like, You good? No, I'm obviously asked me a second time before I answer right to a 10. Like I am going to lose it. Do you think that I can talk right now?

Childhood Fears That Still Linger

SPEAKER_01 16:45

Like I just got drilled. Also, you want to hear a mouth of a sailor when I stub my toe. I will say every curse word under the sun.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

It's so bad. It's so bad. Yeah, I don't know. I do like the fact that like Noah's self-sufficient and some way. I mean, like now everything's I do it myself, even though it takes her like nine years to get ready to go somewhere. Like she could put her clothes on. Oh, yeah, she puts her clothes on, yeah. Even if they're backwards, she is one of those dudes. She gaslights me. Like, your shirt's on backward. No, it's not. She was like, This is best. Yeah. But no, I don't know. I want because I'm so scared that this is like my last baby. And because Gil is like, I he said you have to go find another job if you want another baby, which like I get. Like, I he's just like, he cannot handle a day. The night shift? The night shift is like he is But if you worked day shift, he still has the morning well, I think after I think it's more like he wants me to like be home, like work from home kind of thing, where I like and more present and like no goes to school. And I think just like him doing bedtime, I mean my house is like a disaster when I get home. He just and like he has a lot of wonderful qualities, but that's he's just yeah. And my my mom always says, She's like, Your dad was the exception to the rule, he was like really good at it. Like all three of us bathed before she would even leave for work on night shift. And I think for him, it's just like too much to be able to like navigate cooking dinner, diapers, bath, like putting and that's the thing when you're outnumbered, how do you put three kids to bed? I want to know.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

I need to ask my mom because I mean, I guess it would be the same way, like how Dylan has to do the two of them. You just have to time it up where like Isla goes first, so that's like the 15 minutes that Charlie gets to watch Bluey or whatever. Yeah, and so like he'll go up, put Isla to bed, yeah, come back down.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

Yeah, and that's what Gil does with Noah, but like he has now like she just sleeps with him, which I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_00 18:48

That was my walk roll with Adam. I was like, you gotta stop bringing him in the bed in the morning, like if it's 4 a.m. Because I do not want a child who's five years old or six years old still coming into our bed. This is our bed and this is our time as mom and dad together. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

And that was my I was like hardcore with that too. And like Gil completely broke it. I know we talked about this before, but it's like, you know, she's your bottles and just like Noah. When I'm home, we start her in her bed, but like I wake up in most mornings and she's in her bed. And I'm like, Does she crawl in? She's like, Come here. Yeah, yeah. And all and like Gil literally sleeps like a dead person, like doesn't hear anything. Yeah. So she wakes me up and like wants to have a full-blown conversation at 4 a.m. And I'm like, I just fell asleep. Yeah. So say ain't the time. Yeah. But yeah, anyway. Yeah, I don't know. I need to ask my mom, like, how do you do dead time? How do you coordinate all of that? But yeah, that would be ADHD storytelling.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

I do like legit, like you are like, I want another, I want a third baby. Like, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

So here are my thoughts. These are the inner, this is my inner thoughts. It's very complex, so buckle up. I don't want to be pregnant, but also I do. I also like wanna have like I don't want this phase of life to be over. There's just like I have more, got more life in me. Like, you know, I just like don't want to like I'm 35, but like I don't want to be like closing the door on that forever. Like it feels very final. I've been like putting clothes aside for Caitlin and Ashley, and I mean Noah's four. And I still like when I was like going through my girl clothes for Ashley, I was getting, I was, I can't get rid of this. Like, and there are obviously certain little outfits that I have like in a memory box, like whatever, and those are not negotiable, and yeah, they'll they'll be buried with me. I just can't bring myself to get rid of them, you know.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

It's so interesting because I've had this thought so many times where I'm like, I don't mind being pregnant. I also like enjoyed giving birth and then everything after that. But I like fear, I'm like, am I gonna get to a point where I'm like okay, not having babies anymore? And I've heard from people that they've said, you know, when you're done. You are you reach a point in your life where you're in that time where you're like, nope, like I'm all set. I'm not, yeah, I'm like good being done with being pregnant.

SPEAKER_02 21:06

Like you get.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

So maybe you just like really haven't I hope I hit that at three and not four. Maybe four.

SPEAKER_02 21:14

I feel like oh like my mom. Maybe six. I don't know. Like, I follow this fucking girl on Instagram, has 13 kids. That's that's insane. At all. No, that means 11. Okay, I exaggerate. There's 13 people in the family. There's 11 kids. That's two months. They're also like the most beautiful pregnant kids. I uh this is the logistics of that, I can't even She's like got a nice body. I'm like, how the fuck? Like, it takes me like nine years to like not have a gut and after being pregnant, and I've had 11

Mom Confessions And Dog Food Incidents

SPEAKER_02 21:45

children and you look good.

SPEAKER_01 21:47

Like, I feel like that's one of those things though, social media is yeah, social media. Yeah, but still 11 kids, just the logistics of having that many kids is so much to me. Like, what kind of car are you driving with 11 kids? A bus, a school bus. You have a transit van. Like there is no cute stylish. And I mean, she's an influencer, I guess, so she has a lot of money. But like my thing is like, however many kids I have, whether that's three, maybe four, I just always want to be able to like go on vacation and and like if they want to do swim lessons or if they want to do soccer, whatever sport they want to play, I want to be able to be like, yep, you can do that.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Like I I don't want a family vacation, it the the the down payment on like a boast. That's what I'm saying. Or the most of a of a house.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

I don't want to have another kid and it'd be like I can't now do extra things. Right. Like, you know, I can't we can't afford to do what we want to do back.

SPEAKER_02 22:38

Because like my mom said two to three was harder for her. Like obviously, like zero to one is hard, but then in like every every like time you add on an extra human being, it's gonna be challenging. But she felt two to three was the hardest for her because she's like, you're outnumbered. And I'm like, okay. And like that freaks me out a little bit. But like I'm one of three, Gil's one of three. Both of his sisters have three. This I feel like my in my heart and soul, like I feel like I want one more. And I but the thing is is my mom wanted if all three of us were like an accident. But like she like obviously welcomed it with open arms. Meredith was a my mom was on birth control and she got pregnant with Meredith. She was like, I want a four. Oh wow. But then she was told, like, she was told, you will die. If you want to be around to raise the kids you do have, you need to stop having babies. Yeah, and that's like I don't want, like, I feel like it's my body does not like being pregnant. What if I should be done and I, you know, need to be grateful for the babies that I do have. And you know, anything can happen, geriatric pregnancy, whatever. I don't want to have a fucking stroke. Y'all need to like make sure that if I were to have a stroke and I'm a vegetable, trip over the life support course.

SPEAKER_00 23:50

I'll just turn the body.

SPEAKER_02 23:51

Do not allow it. Do not allow him to keep me alive. I will like I cannot. So that's where you kind of battle back and forth. Yeah, because like I don't want something to happen because I do have complicated pregnancies. I have to be induced. Like, should I just be grateful for the babies that I do have? I have a like a little piece of me that like I feel like is not missing. I feel like I'm very grateful for the two I have.

SPEAKER_01 24:13

No, that makes sense because I know I'm I want a third. Yeah. So like I it's not that I'm not complete with the two that I have. But no, I get I get what you're saying. And I feel like when it comes to like two to three, the ages of those kids are gonna be a big part. Like if you have one that's about to be in like school, and then the second one can like maybe be in like the nature school or something, and then you have your baby.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

My mom and dad, good for them for being irresponsible, but like enough years apart that you didn't have like three under three, which that's crazy to me. Like my brother and Meredith, seven years apart. Yeah, and like Meredith and I are three years apart, Nick and I are two and a half, perfect age gap, you know, and then I battle back and forth, and I feel like there's some a part of me that's I'm not done. I don't, I don't want this phase to be over. This is a very long-winded answer to the original question, which was I don't even know.

SPEAKER_01 25:03

I don't know what I remember. But like we were talking about. Oh, gas station.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

We were talking about the gas station and went all the way. I told y'all to buckle up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:10

Oh no, I'm I'm with it. I feel you. Yeah, my thing was like you were saying you're ready for the kids to walk. And like I just feel like I it feels more emotional to me for crew to turn one, afraid that like this is it. Like the infant stage. I look at him when they're like, I don't want to cry. I look at him in the morning and I'm like, this is like such a precious age. Yeah, yeah. I want him to stay little forever. I don't want him to get big and I don't want this stage to be over. So I might cry on his birthday. So just so you know, I couldn't just it is.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

No, it I remember feeling that way with Charlie and I mean I feel like we were just pregnant like five seconds ago. I try to keep in mind though, like because I feel those emotions that you feel, but I try to keep in mind that just because that stage of him being this age, the baby part, but it opens up so many more stages because now Charlie's two, like seeing her little personality come out like a whole new stage. It's like getting to know a whole new kid. And it's like I do miss when I look at pictures of her being younger, but I also love the new stages too. Yeah, and I I I find myself like not again, not trying to wish time away because it already it already goes so fast, but I find myself being like, oh my gosh, I can't wait till like Isla starts speaking and like you know, her little personality really starts to come out.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

And you know, have you seen you guys watch ever watch Modern Family? I know exactly what you were gonna talk about that Jay says where he's like you have this little baby, and then you know, like you want to hold on to them forever, and

Gas Station Dilemmas With Kids

SPEAKER_02 26:40

then the next stage is that toddler, and they just have the best laugh. Yeah. And every time I hear it, I cry. It's and then he's like, and then the little kid replaces that toddler, and every stage you're meeting this new person, and it's like and it's amazing, and it's you're not you can't miss the the stage before because you have this wonderful new person that like this kid that asks the most amazing questions, and then and then the last part where he's like, and then when they grow up, then you watch all of those kids walk out the door all at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 27:12

Oh yeah, no, no. Oh my kids are always gonna live at my house. Yeah, I know. I've already said to doing like we're in a great area for colleges, they don't really need to go right there. You can I mean they can they can make the trip to NC State if they want to camel camels all the way back there.

SPEAKER_02 27:28

You're only allowed to go to in-state schools or you can be, you can be hammote. Yeah, yeah, like you, if you want to be a doctor, great medical school.

SPEAKER_01 27:36

Yeah, you're gonna be at and then I mean even UNCW, shit. I'll move to the beach.

SPEAKER_00 27:41

Are we going we're going to the beach? I was thinking about this the other day. I was like, there are so many state schools here. Oh no, there's I wish I lived in North Carolina when I was going to school because I would have been good instead of going out of state and paying a shit ton of money.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

No, I feel like I take for granted the fact that I'm from North Carolina. Yeah, it's a great place. It's a great state.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

It's a great place.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

I mean, obviously, you everybody moved to the street. We all moved here.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Except for you.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

You moved here. Um yeah. I guess like, you know, I'm I'm one of the lucky ones, but I don't know. I feel like I'm like, ugh, I just want to like live somewhere else. But like, uh, like No, you have everything you need right here. The beach, the mountain. The better the city, you know, we're in the medical, one of the medical capitals of the country. And anyway, but not to go on that tangent, but oh, I was supposed to send my mom confession. Yeah. I never thought. Oh, yeah. So I they're like kind of all in the same, but I feel like I know a I've had to start using like threats to make her fucking listen to me. And not like, oh, you're gonna go to time out. Cause she's just like, okay, cool. Like, and she really finds it, I don't know what it is. Like, I have this plant. Lydia, Gil's mom, gave me this like praying plant. I don't know, like she gave it to me and it was like her favorite plant, and I love it. It was like this big, beautiful, vibrant green plant. And Noah has made it her mission. If any leaf sprouts, she's gonna pull it off. And so this poor plant has just been like fighting. Trying to survive life every time. It's like put me somewhere else. I know. So I'm like literally Googling or on Amazon, like, how do I protect my poor plant from my children? Because they keep ripping the fucking leaves off.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

You have a baby gate around your eyes.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

No, I do. I have to put a baby gate up around this plant because now Crew has decided that that's a great fucking time. Yeah. So, but Noah did it because this plant was like, it was starting to thrive again. And then she's like, Oh, actually, you need to lose all this. All this new life, I don't like it. So she did it, and I was like, Noah, like and I which is whatever I was doing wasn't working. So I finally said, I'm going to set all of your dolls on fire. Jeez. Guess what? Digital is not fucking.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

I was gonna say, but if she touches that plant, you better get away. That's what they say, like the parenting 101 that if you say something, you gotta doll.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

Oh, I will.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

Because I need a season.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

But the thing is, is like, you know, there's like for me, like I probably could have stood to have like a couple of my toys set on fire. Like as a kid. Like, I just like the entitlement, you know, and there's certain things that like I don't know, are just off limits. You can't say that shit, but like he's like, we were like totally on the same page, and I was like, okay. He's like, Yep, I got a blowtorch.

SPEAKER_00 30:26

Yep. Okay, I should have a question for you guys because I feel like I'm at the stage of Bowie's life where he like I have to actually I don't want to say discipline him because he's only like 10, 11 months old. But it's almost like you tell him no and he looks at you, smiles, and keeps going.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

It's a reaction thing, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:48

Is that like I guess what age is it like to discipline? Yeah. You know what I mean? You got a while. Like now it's setting boundaries in a way, even though he doesn't understand it completely. But it's like, no, you cannot bite me with your little teeth. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02 31:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

Yo, that happened to me this morning too. And being hungover and being slapped in the face is real. There's nothing. And I'm done with today.

SPEAKER_02 31:15

I'm like so close to like that Karen wig that I wore for this party we had one time. Like, I'm so close to having like the mock Kate plus eight. Oh Britney Spears moment. The pulling of the hair just sends me into a rage. But, you know, and I'm like, no, no, no. Or, you know, and it's just like that's all you can say. But like, I feel like Noah, we like recorded her first like timeout. I think she was like a little over one, and like I made her like we always said that like or Gil's sister Elizabeth was like they sit and timeout for the age that they are for the minutes. So like if they're one, obviously, like one. It's like it's not gonna say it's more, yeah. But like Noah, obviously, like disciplining once they like understand like which I feel like is a while. Yeah, like good at the end. It's a while. Like, I mean, I feel like Charlie even is not old enough to really look at it.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

I I no, I was just gonna say, like, she's two and some change now, and I feel like we're just now really having to like discipline where she's like understanding, like, I can't, I feel like it's it's a while before because this one kid apparently, um's

Two Kids Logistics And Big Feelings

SPEAKER_01 32:20

like, I think this one kid at daycare is a bully.

SPEAKER_00 32:22

I heard that the teachers were like, he's he was biting a couple kids, and he's not that much older than Bowie. And I'm like, oh no, no, no, we are not gonna be a biter. So like he has started, you know, he thinks it's funny, he's teething, I get it. But at the same time, I'm like, I'm about to smack your little hand, buddy. Yeah, you can't bite.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

Have you heard even your mean talk is like, I'm gonna smack that little dolls. Fire. Yeah, he's like, He's only 11 months. I'm gonna hit back. It just is so much funny.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Have you heard that? I don't know what to even call it, but like if your kid bites to bite them back.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

Oh yeah, I thought about that.

SPEAKER_01 32:58

I hit crew back, but not like hard, but it's like to the biting, is like they don't realize that it causes pain. So I think the thought process is if you do it back to them, you could be like, hey, hey, look at that.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

And then I was like, well, I can't pretend that I'm eating his feet now, that it's all cute because he bombed is thinking, like, hmm, me biting is cute. I'm like, shoot, I can't eat his little feet now.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

Oh you know, he also crew's feet crew goes in the garage and stuff now, so I'm like, look at his feet now, like black on the bottom. I'm like, no more like toes in the mouth. You're like, you're in your face now or feet are dirty. Yeah. Like they oh baby toes.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

They're just so cute. I'm still on eat them.

SPEAKER_02 33:35

I just want to be eat them up.

SPEAKER_00 33:38

They're so cute.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

Yeah. We'll we'll code eat. We'll see them. I love them. Ugh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

Um it is crazy though that we are like sitting planning their first birthdays. It's so nuts.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

I know. It feels like I mean I still feel pregnant.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

No, so cliche, but damn. That went so long. But they do short.

SPEAKER_02 34:00

That is like one of my like that quote is just like so there's nothing more real. Yeah. That like when you're like in the thick of like the newborn trenches, you're just, oh my god, like I cannot wait to be able to like sleep or like getting through breastfeeding or pumping, and then you're like, oh, now they're eating solids. And it's just like you now you blink and always want like they're gonna be one.

SPEAKER_01 34:22

It's one of those things you have to keep in the forefront of your mind because like when you are frustrated or you're in a stage that is not it, you have to be like, look, this is gonna be over so fast.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

I know. And it's just like it's hard to like when you're you know in the thick of it, it's hard to like like think that way. Think that way where you're like, this is only temporary, because like when you're just exhausted and overstimulated and touched out, you're just like, I just want this fucking day to be over. But then now we're here and we're like and then it's over. It's over, and I'm over here looking at baby, you know, tar first birthday shit, and I'm like, I was thinking about this the other day.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

Actually, we took my dad out for Father's Day, like early dinner yesterday. And I was thinking when he left, I was like, you know, you see all these videos about people like you don't know the last time you're gonna hold your kid.

SPEAKER_02 35:10

Oh, that's the the the quote, the one I did the modern family quote. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

And so I was like, Oh hell no. Think I'll be holding my kids when they're 30. I'd be like, get on this lap. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:18

But it's on the squad. I wonder if our I'm sure they think about that, our parents, but I just it's just kind of sad because one day we're gonna be in our parents' shoes and we're gonna be grandparents and we're gonna be like, where did the time go? And I just think like he probably just pictures me as a baby.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

So yeah, like But uh my mom has said it's like such a beautiful stage of life for her too. Cause she's like, number one, it's so cool to now have a relationship with my kids.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

Like her grandkids. And she's like, but it's also so cool to like watch you as a parent. Isn't that wild? But then it's kind of full circle. Like my brother and I are friends with my mom. Like my brother and my mom went to a concert like last week, and she's like, That's cool. That's not something I did when you were younger. So she's like, Yeah, you miss parts, but it's still another back to what we said where it's like she's like, I'm getting to know my adult children, you know.

SPEAKER_00 36:12

I never would have thought it so cool that I'd be friends with my dad. Everyone, like being a teenager, like I hate my parents. And I'm like, What's up?

SPEAKER_02 36:21

Yeah, I love that. And we talked about like grandparents, and it's like they get to do parenting again with all that extra pressure of you know, all the like life stressors that we're all worried about when we, you know, they can really just take it for what it is. And that's like each time my dad and my mom text me, and they're like, I just want to come see my babies. And I'm like, I get it. Like they just mom, you don't have to call me a baby. I'm 35. My dad texted me the other day and was like, I need to come see the the kids. And I was like, Oh yeah, like, and you know, your your daughter, and he's like, You know, you're my favorite girl. And I was like, Oh, how fucking no? Like, I he's like, You're still my baby. I'm like, uh no, like don't I'm not I'm just I was mostly kidding, but you know, like my dad is I'm I'm his girl, but also I'm like, you know, my kids, he's like, it's because it's me and they're my baby. I mean, obviously, if my siblings had kids, he would love them all the same. But I think with for him, he's like, it's my my baby. Yeah, you know, so and obviously Noah is like the carbon copy of me, so it makes it even I think it's like for him, it feels like he gets another version of baby Katie.

SPEAKER_01 37:28

That's yeah. No, I definitely could see that. Yeah, but Charlie's newest thing is saying, You're not being nice to me, uh-huh. And I'm like, I like that she says that because I'm like, I hope she says that to kids that are really not being nice to her, but like I was just telling her not to jump off the back of the couch. Yep. Like, you're not being nice to me.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

Yeah, Noah goes, you're hurting my feelings. Oh, and I'm like, because I'm telling you to not do something, I'm hurt, like she'll be doing something like destructive, and she's like, You're hurting my feelings. I'm like, I appreciate that you're like you are speaking up and saying these things, but like but also a little misplaced, still can't do it. You're the one doing the bad thing, but okay, like you're like, I'm just trying to prevent you from hurting.

SPEAKER_01 38:10

Yeah, it's just so funny. The things that Charlie's saying now, I'm like, where did you get that from? Or like how did you put that together?

SPEAKER_00 38:17

Oh my god, they're so cool.

SPEAKER_01 38:19

It's so cool. I know, but yeah, it's so fun.

SPEAKER_00 38:22

Pretty wild being parents. I still feel like I'm 16.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

Oh, yeah. No, like I'm definitely a teen mom.

SPEAKER_02 38:28

And mentally, I am a teen mom, and I I don't ever feel like, you know, I always look at my parents and I'm like, you like you can just be like, okay, I can tell like you're 60 in your 60s, you know. Like, I just don't know if I it's not like that they like act old, but like, you know, I just always felt like my parents were older than they were. Uh-huh. And like I was the age that my mom was when she had me when I had Noah. And so I'm like, 31. When you look at your mom and you're like, picture of her 31, she just seemed older. That is so true. And like, and maybe because like the style of the 90s is just trash.

SPEAKER_01 39:02

Like it was aging in itself.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

Yeah, the makeup. Like, I'm just like, ew.

SPEAKER_01 39:07

Like what? The momos. Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

Love a good momo.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

Speaking of being old, so last night I told you I I went out with some youngins. And the one girl, her brother was there, and he's like, Oh, damn, I'm so unk. Like, I'm the oldest one here. Unk, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:24

I mean that in a minute.

SPEAKER_01 39:26

It means old.

unknown 39:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

How old is And I'm in a different conversation, and I hear the girl go, You think you're unk. How old do you think Taylor is? And I was like, first of all, bro. First off, I'm not even in the conversation. You're pulling me in. You were like, I'm just here to have fun. Yeah. She was like, no, because you look like you're 20.

SPEAKER_02 39:44

And I was like, okay, nice save that. Yeah. Yeah. Like all the time, they're always like, Oh yeah, like I'm so old. I'm like, first of all, fuck you. Because like I know you're 25. Right. Not better. Yeah. I know, like all the girls that I work with are like, I'm so old. And I'm just like, eat glass. Like, what do you mean you're old? Like, and I'm like, I don't have, like, I'm not old. I don't tell me that you're old. And they like fully mean it. And they're just like, oh, like, I'm so old. I'm like, I'm like, you have no idea. And honestly, it's just like how much back pain. My it's not even like the back pain and all that shit. It's like the lack of sleep and what it does to me now. Like, I used to be able to like 25 cent beer night, which like gag. Like, why was I thinking that was like a fun night out?

SPEAKER_00 40:38

That sounds like a great time for me right now.

SPEAKER_02 40:40

Yeah. Like there was a bar in Chapel Hill called East End. They had 25 cent beer night on Tuesday. Literally Tuesdays. I'm like, we're going out. And and like, you know, time and then um what's that place? The timeout. They have they're open to all 24 hours. Go at 4 a.m. get a chicken biscuit, eat it on the fucking sidewalk, and then I go to work at 9 a.m. And be like all fucking day. A little tired. Yeah. I'd go home, sleep for an hour and a half, two hours, wake up and be fine.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

I think I just really hate that like narrative that's like, oh, I'm I'm so old. I'm old. We are not old. I'm not gonna be old until I'm like 80, 85. Until I'm on my deathbed. Honestly, I don't feel

Discipline Debates And Wild Threats

SPEAKER_01 41:20

old. I don't say I'm old.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

I don't have old.

SPEAKER_01 41:24

I'm fine with it.

SPEAKER_02 41:25

My mom doesn't have gray hair and she's she's like, it's just you're as old as you at. I feel as old as you feel. I feel great. I'm loving being 30. Yeah, I just don't love my skin. But that's just that's something that hormones are Gabby's gonna start doing our botox. Right. So oh, and I also just got back on serno lactone. Oh I was like having a day. Oh my god, I'm surprised you haven't peed yet. I have to. I'm just holding it. I only own 50 milligrams.

SPEAKER_00 41:53

So you saying that makes me have to pee. Yeah. I'm not even on it, but I'm like, sympathetic. You have great skin. Sympathetic. Me? Yeah, you do. So yeah. Well, I am so inconsistent with my skin care. My skin is was not great back then.

SPEAKER_02 42:06

That's how I know you're not old because you are inconsistent with your skincare.

SPEAKER_01 42:11

I mean, I just it's poor life choices. It's I should be better.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

Like sleeping in your makeup is like I don't care if I am trashed vomiting on the floor. I will wake up and take off my makeup.

SPEAKER_01 42:25

No, I should have that mindset.

SPEAKER_02 42:26

And then the next day I'm very upset because I'm like I'll have like a full pimple Vesuvius.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

No, my skin would be so much better if I actually like you have your skin looks great. Thanks. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. If I actually committed to my great skincare routine that I've spent so much money on, I'm good like three days a week. I'm like solid about it. Let me say high. Not that I wash my face every day, but like my whole like my serums and my like exfoliating and all that.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

I have to put my shit on subscription because I am like every 30 days I run out of stuff. I am like so consistent. My goal is to be better.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

The Medicine is not it for me anymore. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:04

I'm done with the fucking viral bullshit. Yeah, it's that's a that's a topic we can talk about.

SPEAKER_00 43:10

Wait, why don't you like mention? It was, I think it was not making me break out, but I found a random video and it was giving me like kind of like or your eyes? Like pimples, like whiteheads almost, but people are like, that's not they're called comodones, closed comodones. Well, that's just like I have some right here. Yeah. Yeah, that but I don't know, like a rash almost. It was like a rash of pimples. Yeah, it's like that like a dermatitis.

SPEAKER_02 43:35

So I so would not not like Medicube's okay. Like I'll use certain products through Medicube. I'm not using the whole pads, the exfoliating pads anything. They suck, they're amazing. Yeah, some of them are too harsh, and it's like rips destroy your skin barrier, and then other ones are just way too hydrating, and I'm just like, I'm over here, like just dry skin, and then I got fucking zits. I'm like, this is bullshit. But but Dr. Malaxis. Have you seen that one? So it's like another like viral. It's so funny how difficult.

SPEAKER_00 44:04

You just said not to use viral product. Well, no, no. You said it's another viral product. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:09

So processing. I use this viral product and like everybody's like going off about it. And so I'm like, okay, because I'm like desperate. My skin is just like on another level of like just crazy. So then I'm like buying fucking shit on TikTok shop. And it's like, oh, this is literally like Botox and a like tube. It's like these like the under-eye sticks that like are supposed to get rid of like the the laugh lines and shit. So I'm using them and then I'm getting like zits like around my eye. And like you can't use acne products around your eye. No. And so then I'm like, what is this? And for whatever reason, took me wait far too long to figure out the new skincare I was using. And I'm like looking up videos and they're just like, oh yeah, like I'm getting zits around my eyes. Oh shit. I don't. So now like I have a hundred and something dollars worth of fucking bullshit that's unopened. I'm like, what do I don't want to have the heart to sell it on my marketplace?

SPEAKER_01 45:02

Someone will buy it.

unknown 45:02

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 45:03

That's just like that's the thing though. Like some skincare works really great for some people and then awful for others. I'm going back to the basics. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:12

Me too. Doing like a gentle cleanser, a toner, you know, and then doing like a serum for like anti-aging and hydration, and then doing like a gentle moisturizer, a heavier one at night, and then during the day, obviously SPF.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 45:26

That is one thing that I will 100% always advocate for. SPF, bitch.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

That's what I've been using. I I really do like Supergoop. I went on a short phase not using it, but now I've been using the Supergoop glow screen. The SPF?

SPEAKER_02 45:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:39

I love that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 45:41

Isn't that the one when it's pillows? Okay. I love that. That's just expensive though.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

It is, but it's been working for me, and I don't wear I don't like to wear heavy makeup during the summer anyway, because I just sweat and I just don't like it. So I just put that on. It's like a tinted,

Skincare Basics And SPF Loyalty

SPEAKER_00 45:55

like baby cream type thing for me.

SPEAKER_02 45:57

That's all I use. I've been using tinted moisturizer for part, and that's what I have on right now. And it's like, it's good. It's really and it's light and it you know and it's not heavy and gross. And that's been my thing is like my skin. I these like I have full coverage foundations, they're acne and new single. Yeah, it's such a double-edged sore. You're like, I need to cover this acne, but also that that's what's causing it. Right, right. Men have no idea what we go through.

SPEAKER_00 46:24

No, I thought it's a bottom skincare routine, which is not even washing. A bar as no. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:29

Like maybe that'll work for me. Layla told me, she's like, this is why like men don't have bad skins. Like, you need you're doing too much. And I was like, girl, shut up. Like, you don't know what it's like. Like, you have perfect skin. Get out of here. Like Curtis and I are over here fighting for our life. She's like, Y'all just do too much. I'm like, you know what? Right. You don't know. Love you, Layla, but no, it's a whole thing.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

And then after pregnancy, you have all the hormones that are just like fucking everything up.

SPEAKER_02 46:56

Mine's all hormonal. It's all my jawline. I got my facial, and my little 22-year-old fucking aesthetician's like, oh, like telling me what she uses. So I'm like, cool. Well, you're 22. Right. We got different skin. You just do what I'm paying you for. Right. But no, she she told me she recommended Bioma. I mean, so I got like one of their like oil cleansers and stuff. So I'm trying that and I really do like it.

SPEAKER_00 47:19

I'm just switched to prequel.

SPEAKER_01 47:21

I've got their oil cleanser. It's almost out of mind.

SPEAKER_00 47:25

So I do use the bioma toner and their eye cream. I do like their eye cream a lot. Yeah, I like bioma. And I like La Roche Possée.

SPEAKER_02 47:32

I do too. But it's expensive. It is a little pricey. It's a little pricey. Target. It's a little booty piece.

SPEAKER_01 47:36

Damn, I could go down a rabbit hole on skincare. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:39

We'll have to make a whole episode about that.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

That's its own.

SPEAKER_02 47:41

Yeah, that's its own topic in itself. Being in your 30s and navigating skincare. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:49

That's it. But I'm serious about the Botox though. Okay. Yeah. Like very serious. I just want my forehead.

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Well, if you do your forehead, you have to do it.

SPEAKER_02 47:57

Yeah, no, oh yeah, no. Full forehead. This is like this line right here. Mine or micro's feet. Micro's feet aren't even that bad. It's my forehead and this my like I I'm very expressive. Yeah, me too. I'll always get I so I don't know, but I'm about to fucking do something dressed.

unknown 48:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:15

Like what Gabby, do our Botox.

SPEAKER_02 48:17

Backyard Botox by Gabby. Well, I got a key. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:23

Next week will uh be interesting.

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SPEAKER_01 48:25

We're gonna have the guys on.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

So yes, so tune in next week. We have our husbands on for our Father's Day episode, and that's gonna be interesting because the three of them together, yeah. It's a treat. Yeah. So might be a two-hour long episode. Yeah, so listen to it on a road trip or something because it's gonna be fucking fun.

SPEAKER_01 48:43

And remember, motherhood isn't perfect, neither are we. Laugh, swear, hug your kids, sip your drink, your mammish, and that's enough. Bye for now.

SPEAKER_03 48:49

Bye. Babbage.