Heavenly Bodies: A Trip Through the Cosmos with David Odyessey

You’re More Psychic Than You Think (Mediumship Explained)

Pride House Media Season 1 Episode 125

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In this week’s episode of Heavenly Bodies, I sit down with Kiko Soirée and we get into something I think a lot of people are curious about but don’t always have language for — the psychic layer of everyday life.

We’re not talking about crystal balls and neon auras. We’re talking about the subtle moments when your mind quiets and something smarter than your thinking brain starts to come online. That feeling when insight drops in out of nowhere. When you’re writing and the words feel like they’re writing you. When you suddenly know something without knowing how you know it.

Kiko and I explore the idea that channeling isn’t rare — it’s natural. The real question is: where are you already open? Because most of us are channeling all the time… we’re just usually tuned into noise instead of signal.

We also get into media — how it can fragment your psyche when you’re consuming unconsciously, but how it can become a powerful medium when you engage with intention. Books. Music. Art. Deep conversation. Even silence. Different doorways, same current.

And we talk about wonder — that almost childlike state where time drops away and you’re just present. That’s not immaturity. That’s nervous system regulation. That’s access. That’s when perception widens and intuition gets loud.

This one is really about learning to recognize your own psychic architecture. What makes you feel coherent instead of scattered? What makes time disappear? What feels alive in your body?

Because once you notice that current — you can follow it.

And that’s where things get interesting.


Email me at ask@heavenlybodiespodcast.com. I want your charts. I want your hot takes. I want your psychic projections.

Because astrology is a living language, and so are queer myths.

Write to me at Ask@Heavenlybodiespodcast.com 

To book a reading with, go to DavidOdyssey.com and Davidodyssey.substack.com




SPEAKER_01

Hello, Star Child. You've tuned into Heavenly Bodies, a trip through the Cosmos with David Odyssey. I'm David Odyssey, your personal astrologer and guide, cruising through the stars and down to Earth. Each week, we'll seek life's meaning in archetypes, old and new. And now, let's drop in. Welcome to my star children, daughters of the galaxy, and so on and so forth. Uh today. Okay, I'm not gonna cry during this introduction, but I want to say that I am joined by a dear friend whom I have known since 2017. Um a Ugh Kiko, I don't like, I really don't want to do any labels because I'm already like, no, that's reductive. Like, why are we limiting them? But I should say that this person is a performer, comedian, drag queen, um, an organizational mastermind on par with uh Martha Stewart. They have hosted and dominated um all manner of different forms of uh live performance, uh, many, many of which I have either attended or had the honor of being on the stage for, and they were pretty unforgettable. Um they are also they are the host of uh my favorite podcast, which I recently got to be on, Savior Complex, with our beloved friend Emily Olcott, and they are a channel. Um they offer one-on-one Akashic readings, which is a gag. Please welcome to the podcast, the singular Kiko Soire.

SPEAKER_00

Hello, David, and all heavenly bodies listening.

SPEAKER_01

Hello.

SPEAKER_00

Hi, I'm Kiko.

SPEAKER_01

I look, this is this is what I want to talk to you about, and this can go in a lot of directions. You and I, I think have shared an experience of kind of coming online to gifts that we didn't necessarily grow up thinking we were going. Like I you and I, I think have had these kind of awakenings into what can maybe be called psychic gifts, which even that I find really limiting and kind of basic. And I don't think this was something that either of us like was dreaming about in middle school. And we've both integrated it professionally, and we're on these kind of journeys of trying to bring it into our day-to-day lives and talk about it and integrate it, but I I wanted to talk with you about it because hello, you know. Um, so I'm first of all, can you just catch us up on where you are in this journey, even if it's where you are today?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, today I am calling you from Brooklyn, New York, first and foremost. Physically here, that's where I am on Earth. Um had two cups of tea already and an amazing bowl of beans. This is all just important to get myself grounded, to get ourselves grounded. Yes. In terms of um, I guess let's call them intuitive gifts or skills or that's much better. It is. Um it's the last it's not totally the last thing I thought I'd be doing. I think the last thing would probably be what, like mathematician. But um but it's it was it was pretty far-fetched um for me, but not totally it was not totally outside the realm of possibility. You know, if we talk about teenage dreams, it was be in an indie band and I don't know play at the Bowery Electric. That can be arranged. I know, it's still on my list. Yeah, you know, I was I was a very sensitive child, also known as um a young closeted child, and um, you know, grew up going to uh church and um being reared in religion every Sunday. My exposure to music in that realm, I think, was my first kind of solid memories of being like, oh, I'm like feeling very connected to whatever this all is spirituality, things like that. So I think that was always that channel was always active. And you know, I later I later as I got to college started to be like, oh, this is what I call art or being an artist. Yeah. But I think that was just the tip of the iceberg of so many things and so many layers of deconditioning. But that's where I'm starting, I guess, is my first answer.

SPEAKER_01

I I'm I I just have to I'm sorry, the guides pinged me already. You know, you on your podcast Savior Complex, you talked a lot about how coming out as someone with intuitive gifts or coming out as someone who kind of can travel or listen or change the the frequency is a lot like coming out as as gay. And I I I just have to ask you, like, you know, because I know you as someone who has really gone through a lot of different doors and awakenings when it comes to the gender journey, and of course, I know you as a drag legend who I've seen perform Kim Petrus about 15,000 times. So but to me, the guides were just pinging me about like, no, they did all of this drag work to access this sort of high priestess capability or to be able to go beyond these confines, and with that, all of these other doors opened. Is that making sense? What was that? There anything else?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, completely. I mean, we've talked about this a little bit, um, especially when we've talked about my natal chart. Metamorphosis, I think, and identity are are like inextricable to me. Um and I think just for me in this vessel that I happen to be in in this lifetime, what did I have like Pluto in Scorpio and also my ascendant in Scorpio? Um and so for me thinking about identity uh conceptually, but also like living it and feeling it very viscerally have been um parallel to my artistic or creative explorations. Um it's both something I've play I've played with and then also things that I've like seriously wrestled with in like a dire and dramatic way. And like a a poignant way or you know, a serious way, you know, such as coming out and thinking about whether or not like I should carry on with this life. Whether, you know, and then there's also you know, the reclamation of our femininity through drag. At least that was my exploration of drag, being like actually um all parts of myself are really fun, and you know, uh drag is fun in this way that you get to be a champion for these parts of yourselves that you like stuffed away. So you are spot on in that kind of playing with um and studying, I guess I will say, myself and the journey of um self-awareness. I have to laugh at myself a little bit, but yeah, the journey of awareness, right, or and mindfulness as it relates to the self and what that even means, um has definitely been s setting the stage for um channeling and entering into these intuitive gifts, and it's totally like coming out in that there is this uh persecution wound, and I was like um and I was, you know, of course, watching some girl on Instagram do just like public card readings, which I love. Um and her think her name is like Sarah Oracle, which I'm obsessed with. I I love her. This is free promo for her. Um, but she's talking about like, oh, you carry like a persecution wound, you have these gifts related to God and spirit, but um there's fear of being persecuted, like kind of like a witch, right? And I was like, yeah. I was like, oh right. That's why coming out, I was joking about it on Savior Complex, but like coming out as a quote, psychic, which is kind of what I use for shorthand, um, is like vulnerable, embarrassing, but also like empowering and also true because it's like I have a there's a sphere of persecution like you're crazy, or like now you've really done it, like this is too far, you know. But I think at this age, and then the reason why I think drag and um every other art form I've explored has set the stage for this, is that I'm at this place where it's like there's really nothing to question because you can't enter into this kind of stuff with doubt. And I think um we'll we'll probably talk about it later, but that's actually one of the cornerstones of what I have to access and remember when I start to channel.

SPEAKER_01

So let's start, let's go there because let's go there. This is actually this is probably the number one thing because I know a lot of people, and that includes a lot of people I've done readings for, where I'm like, girl, you're probably more of a powerful channel than I am. Like you are already there, but there's the thing of like doubt and permission. And I'll just give an example today. Today I was at a funeral, um, and the person who was buried kind of like made a joke to me. Uh just FYI, dead people usually, you know that a dead person's usually communicating to you because they usually have a very good sense of humor because they don't give a fuck anymore. Anyways, so she kind of made a joke to me, and she kind of made fun of me a little bit, and I and I caught it, and I and yeah, of course, there was a moment where I was like, oh, maybe I just made that up. No, no, no, and then I was like, you know what? We're gonna believe that this thing that I really just felt that I know came from somewhere else, came from me, and it doesn't matter. Like, I think there is this very internet-y culture of like, well, we need to prove, and you know that that thing is problematic. And I think with this sort of thing, I had to develop the skill to be like, it's okay. Like, if this thing is bullshit, I think it'll probably fade away or it won't matter, but I can trust that it's real.

SPEAKER_00

Like, I'm at that point. Completely, totally. Um, you know, in the Akashic Pathway Prayer, there is a segment of it um that goes uh protect oh Holy Spirit of God, protect me from all forms of self-centeredness and direct my attention to the work at hand. And something you say shorthand, well, when you do a reading for someone else, you say it silently to yourself. But whenever you are wondering if your mind is wandering, or if this is you, or if this is the work you're doing, just like simply repeat uh repeating that phrase, or I will say spell, is a way of recalibrating the frequency. Um and I think about um uh setting aside the the ego, correct? You know, ego can be helpful and is helpful sometimes, but not it it can cause confusion when you're trying to access an intuitive gift. And ego what it stands for, they say edging God out. So yeah, you can't have ego and also try to channel um because you need God. You you that's that's kind of the idea. I mean God in whatever form it as it relates to you, but the idea is that we are opening ourselves up to higher frequencies and higher powers and um and the forces of light, so they say.

SPEAKER_01

Kiko, can you just explain for our listeners what Akashic is and what the Akashic, like what that is for you and what that kind of looks like?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, totally. Um and before I I always start this explanation, I always give a shout out to um a friend and mentor, teacher, Kat Hunt, from whom I learned so much about the Akashic Records. She was the first person to read my Akashic Records.

SPEAKER_01

Same.

SPEAKER_00

We both did her ARC program. Um and that's kind of where a lot of these um gifts didn't come online, but they became clear as uh something that needed to be addressed. Um Akasha is the fifth element, um, and that's a Sanskrit word. The other elements are fire, earth, water, air. And akasha I think means sky, but it's also known as spirit. And it is the imprint, the akashic records are the imprint of all that has been and all that can be. I I believe it, I've also heard it as um kind of like the imprint for life, like the memory of life and and also the imprint for life. When I um before I start my readings with people, I um I say a way to understand the energy of the Akashic Records can be something like let's say you're not like a religious or spiritual person, you might say, ask yourself what makes a seed grow? Like we know seeds can grow, but like what actually makes them grow and why do they grow at all? Um what is the collective consciousness? Um, what is the quantum field? Right? These are all ways that we can start to talk about this unseen force that unites us and that kind of moves through all living and non-living things.

SPEAKER_01

The way I would describe it, I think, is you know, like I use tarot or astrology to kind of get into the library. Kiko can just, and I I can do it. I'm I'm not as specialized as Kiko and certainly as much as Kat, but what Kiko and Kat can do is just like kind of be librarians and just be like, okay, who do we need to talk to? And they can just go straight to the source and be like, what's the message? Great, got it, here it is. So, you know, you really are kind of like these direct messengers.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and and you know, I'll I always have to say I'm an ever I'm a uh lifelong student, so I'm always learning. But oh yeah, I think I there was a moment, especially when I was practicing and doing this, I really felt like um Hayden Christensen when he started to become a Jedi, and I was like, Oh, I was like, holy shit, like I actually am pretty good at this. Like, or I was like, I I I feel like I was built for this. Not even and not like in a super braggy way, but it's kind of like I imagine uh an athletic swimmer being like, wait, I'm actually really good at swimming.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it's interesting you say that, Kiko, because you and I, I think both came into this from the world of being artists, and being an artist is so riddled with insecurity, and it's you're kind of never like you never really know. You can be you can know you're good at something. It's not that. You can know you're good at your craft, and I think we both have that, but there is this sense of like, well, that just went out into the world. But with this, I think there's a lot of responsibility because when you're working with a client or when you are even channeling for a friend, you really want to make sure that you're doing it so honestly and making sure that the bases are covered and that you're it's it's considerate and compassionate, and that you know, if someone is asking you these really serious questions about their life, that you're not just like, yeah, girl, everything's gonna be amazing. So I I think that the responsibility aspect has the Jedi Knight quality to it, which is like you can't just pick up a lightsaber. You're going to really need to make sure that if you swing it, you know where it's going.

SPEAKER_00

Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I that is totally about what like understanding service, right? Like we want to be of service um to our highest good and the highest good of everyone connected to us, which is also part of the Akashic Pathway prayer. Uh so when I'm doing it, I am activating, I think it feels like I'm activating my whole consciousness and attuning to bringing this uh message these messages, transmitting these messages is what I'm trying to say. And sh then I actually try not to even live in this space of arguing on behalf of the skeptic anymore because truthfully, I don't really care. I think that's like so boring. Um but what I will say is that the fun thing about when you actually do this and and you are um opening yourself up as a channel um for your highest good and their highest good and the highest good of everyone connected to us, you m the way my channel works is I'm a clairvoyant and a clairsentient and uh claircognizant is kind of also there, which is uh seeing images and feeling um emotional transmissions. And it's my job as a channel to articulate those um sensations and messages as clearly as I can. Um and the cool thing about doing readings now, and I've uh in all the readings I've done is sometimes saying a message and saying an image that to me I'm just like, okay, this kind of s seems a little random, right? But then I also just say to myself, um Holy Spirit of God, protect me from all forgiveness self-centeredness, direct my attention to the work at hand. Just to check in. I mean like, okay, is this what you want me to say? And then I'll say it. Something that I think is pretty random. I'm look seeing you banging a vending machine, and I don't know, and there's like consternation, and I kind of go on and on, and then I talk a little bit, transmit more of the feeling, and then I check in and say, How is this all resonating? And they're like, I literally I work eight to ten hour days, and there's a vending machine on the first floor that I go down to sometimes in the middle of the day when I'm so tired, and I know it's like not great. I don't have this love-hate relationship with the vending machine. So then it's like, okay, this is cool. We start to get confirmation that the channel between us is open and that more is than wanting to come through. And I think that I uh I'm just have a I have have a high accuracy rate. I don't know, that sounds weird to say. Like I have a high batting average, but there are I I'm not questioning it anymore because it just is what it is, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Listen, you know, when I started doing readings, I made it very I said, you know, this is all like a Rorschach test and it's all about it's psychological and it's the unconscious, but then things started happening that really just like weren't common. Coming from me, and I knew they were coming from somewhere else, and then they really started registering as like, please, David did not come up with this shit. You know, we're way, you know, it was something more intelligent than me. And yeah, after some point, I was kind of like, Well, I am letting go. And I I don't need to question or break it down or explain it. I think it's different for a lot of people. One of the friends of the pod, uh, Emily Dacey, I'm I'm name-dropping her, she has a thing with birds, she gets messages from birds, birds are constantly telling her what's up. I know other people who have different things. You know, there's bit there's all sorts of ways that this sort of a thing can come online. And I think people have this idea that you get to some point, or you've always been this way, or you saw dead people when you were a child. And I'm just wondering, because for you and I, it was a bit more of um obviously there have been these lightning strikes, but I think it was a bit more of an opening. And I'm curious what you would say to someone who feels like things are coming online, but they have doubts and that they're telling themselves not to believe it, or they don't know what to do with it, or how should they treat this, or just how do you allow for that opening to happen?

SPEAKER_00

I I think well, I think first and foremost, you're completely right in that everyone has intuition. Um there's a bit of a deconditioning we have to do in our society because they just don't, it's just not prioritized in the way that your analytical skills are. Um but another boring conversation. But um uh so everyone has an intuition, and everyone intuition everyone's intuition functions a little different because intuition, by its very nature, comes in many ways. It can come in feeling, it can come in images, it can come in sounds, it can come through uh synchronicity, right? You know, Young, classic, Young's concept of synchronicity. Um it can come just through accidental meaning, like you know, p somet you look at something two random things happen, but they're only meaningful to you. And the way that things become meaningful to you, I think is um uh personal. And I would say for anyone who is starting to open up to their intuitive life, it is a magical process. And um sh sure, I guess I'm not gonna say don't be afraid because that's kind of a huge broad stroke, but get curious about what the fear is around trusting your intuition, I think is definitely a first step. Um and is that fear actually real or or what's the threat there? Um and there are little experiments that you can do, you know, with playing with your intuition and things like that, such as making art.

SPEAKER_01

So I think this is an ongoing dialogue that's really fascinating. Um but yeah, I do think it should always be dynamic. Like it it needs to evolve with you, it shouldn't feel static.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and and I think it you know, I I I can only speak to my experience and my practice, but in exploring this new stage of my life, I think everyone has a different kind of channel, like even in terms of its frequency or like or environment. Like I know um, you know, in my sessions with Kat it was revealed and it was explored that my uh I I'm when I make this connection, I'm from the it's something like the angelic or um crystalline or celestial realm. You know, it's I mean words kind of start to lose their meaning, but it's that frequency. And to be honest, that is the same frequency I felt within me as a child. I these were you Sailor Moon. Yeah, it's something like that, but I you know, I'm wow, I'm can I can feel the energy starting to well up in my eyes, but it's like I'm connecting with the stars and star light and s and as and water watery starlight as it relates also to the ocean and the ocean star and um you know all that is contained within that. And I felt that as a child. That is what I understood to be um pure to me. And I don't love the word pure because it has a lot of moral um stuff around it. But it did feel it does feel holy to me. Um I'm I'm connecting to my my holiness and finding the words that I need to connect to holy with holiness and to tie it back to what we were saying. I think that's when ritual can be impactful, when you remember what you're trying to do, which is connect to God, connect to something holy.

SPEAKER_01

You know, it's interesting because I always, you know, I always, always loved going out and dancing, and I always felt like when I was dancing, something was happening. But that was long before I had any of this stuff going on. And then once this began, I would start to go dancing, but I would set intentions and I would do sigil magic that got unleashed when I was in like a state of heightened rapture on the dance floor. And then so I'm bringing that up to say like uh we have a dear friend who is listening, who I'm not gonna say her name, but she, whenever she goes and gets her bikini wax done, for some reason when she is on her back and closes her eyes and is in this state, she goes places. So I'm bringing all this up to say, like, it doesn't mean that you need to like totally change your entire lifestyle and move to a swamp and then you're going to connect with Gaia. It's likely that you may already have something that you're doing that taps you in, and you might just need to go in with a little more intention or do the pre and the post ritual of saying, okay, I'm about to do my favorite thing. I'd like this to be a fully open gate when I do it. You know what I mean? Like, I I don't think anyone needs to go too far for their Jedi powers to unveil themselves.

SPEAKER_00

No, you should just go for a walk in a park or ne go sit by a tree for a second. And really just um do something without a purpose. Do an activity that has no purpose but brings you joy, that is not just locked into your screen or the TV or or something. Like get curious about what where when was the last time you felt wonder? When was the last time you felt timelessness? When was the last time you felt pure curiosity? You know. Um some people are are library wizards, you know? It's not like magic is only about the non-written form, too. I think it's about following that the current of your heart.

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It's true.

SPEAKER_01

Kiko, I feel like we were we're only just getting started, and obviously this is what I feel like is an ongoing lifelong conversation, and I I hope to record more of these. Thank you so much for all of this wisdom you've shared and all of your compassion and insight. Um, and and yeah, I'm just so grateful. Thank you for being here.

SPEAKER_00

I am so grateful. I'm so lucky. Thank you, everyone, for listening to us yap today and be blessed wherever you are.

SPEAKER_01

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