Moving with Grace: The Physical Expression of Inner Composure

What does physical grace look like in everyday life? In this episode of The Ladylike Behavior Series, we explore how a woman's inner composure is reflected in the way she moves, carries herself, and interacts with the world around her.

Physical grace is more than elegance, it's the outward expression of confidence, self-respect, and feminine poise. From posture and body language to walking, sitting, and everyday gestures, we'll discuss practical ways to cultivate a presence that communicates calmness, dignity, and charm without saying a word.

Join us as we discover how delicate movement and refined habits can enhance your femininity, strengthen your self-confidence, and help you embody the timeless beauty of a gracious woman.

In this episode, you'll learn:
 • The correlation between inner confidence and outward grace
 • Common habits that diminish a polished appearance
 • Simple ways to improve movement, and poise
 • How graceful body language influences relationships and first impressions
 • Practical tips for developing elegance in everyday life

Whether you're beginning your femininity journey or seeking to refine your presence, this episode offers encouragement and practical insights to help you move through life with grace and purpose.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hello everyone and welcome to the official Fascinating Womanhood podcast where we explore timeless principles for developing true femininity, inspiring authentic masculinity, and building strong, loving, and lasting relationships. I'm Cherry Lynn and I'm here with my mom, Dixie Andalen Forsyth. Together we'll dive into the heart of what makes relationships thrive, offering practical wisdom and heartfelt conversations to help you live a more fulfilled and fascinating life.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Okay, so today we are talking about physical grace. This is the last episode of our five-part ladylike behavior series. If you haven't listened to our other episodes, we are going through sections of Dixie's book, Fascinating Womanhood for the Timeless Woman, and we are going through in very extensive depth of what it's like, what it means to be more ladylike. So what does that mean to you, physical grace? I think a lot of us might hear that and think of a lot of different things.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

Yeah, there's there's a number of things, and it it's the way you speak, how you move, the way you walk, the way you carry yourself, how you move your hands is kind of a big one. And smiling, one wouldn't think that had anything to do with physical grace. Smiling and and delicateness does not mean weak, it means fine, like delicate lace isn't fragile necessarily. And there's different versions of grace that that you can look to. A lot of people think that we just do this because men make us do it, but it's not that's not true. Physical grace is something that we're partly born with, but partly we cultivate because it helps us to feel better about ourselves and it helps us present well to others.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

That's really well said. I know for me personally, when I first started thinking about this years ago when we did our YouTube series on media behavior, I was looking this up on the internet and I wanted to know more about physical grace, and I kept seeing examples of ballerinas. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

I'm fascinated by them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

That's kind of struck me as a little bit odd because I thought to myself, well, okay, okay, of course, ballerinas are delicate and they're they're so graceful, but it's a dancer. How does that relate to us in our everyday lives? It's not like we're gonna be walking around and pirouetting and pointing our toes all the time. It's funny how when you look it up, you get things like that, but you don't really get everyday examples.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

What's interesting about ballerinas is that they're very strong. Uh to do what they do, they have to have and you know, you look at their muscular definition, it's incredible. I I really admire it. But they're the thing that comes out to me is their fluid motion, the way they move is very fluid, it's not choppy or chunky. And and we can we can uh do a version of that in our everyday lives, which includes, you know, the ballerina doesn't include the way you speak or or smiling and stuff like that, but delicateness, you could look at delicateness with a ballerina and also realize they're incredibly strong.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

That's true. What do you think about the women who think they just aren't graceful? I wasn't born that way, that's not me. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_02 3:26

I don't think I've ever seen a newborn that was particularly gracial. But you don't, you're not born being able to walk either. So I mean, there's a lot of things that you learn, but there's a lot of things innate in you. And you can tell, you can say, I wasn't born that way. When you actually practice it, you'll see how good it makes you feel, which is why we say kind of is innate in us if we develop that quality.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

But what about the ladies that say that they try it and they feel uncomfortable in it? Because I hear that all the time. They're like, oh, I'm trying to be more feminine and I'm trying to work on how I approach things, how I move, blah, blah, blah. And it just doesn't feel like me. And then they give up.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Yeah. And I would say you are kind of a fluid concept at a lot of stages of your life. Everybody has some fluidity to them. So and some of the things that we say it's not me, it's only because they've developed a habit, not because that's they can't do anything about it. I mean, I mean, when I was little, my I sucked my thumb and my parents worked really hard to get me to break that habit. But I wasn't born doing it. It was a habit, and and you can break a habit. And when I did, I was really glad I did. Now, of course, I was pretty little then, but it's the same kind of thing. You can develop a habit of being comfortable acting like your brothers, for example. Say you're an only girl and you act like your brothers. That doesn't just because it's a habit doesn't mean it's you exactly.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

Well, I think that's a good way to compare it to children, because children, as we all, many of us know, they have a lot of habits and they resist change. How many times have you had to remind for those of you out there that have kids, remind your kids to pick up their clothes or put the trash in the trash can. Well, it doesn't, it's not me.

SPEAKER_02 5:14

You could you could argue that yeah, parents would say, uh, yeah, get up. Yeah, that's not gonna fly around here.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

And those are just basic manner things, but I think you can work on some of these things, and not everyone is is going to be the same. We're gonna talk about a lot of points today about physical grace, and everyone's gonna have a different way to apply it to themselves. But I think that's a good point that you bring up is that you can resist that, well, this is just me, that comfortable kind of place that you maybe are used to. You can resist that and challenge it a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Well, here's the thing some people might say, oh, this is patriarchy that's put on us. And oh my gosh, I hear that all about that. Yeah, and they want us to do this. The reality of it is is I've experienced is it makes you feel better. It makes you feel more confident, it's more attractive to others, and you feel better about yourself when you do it. This is about improving yourself, not because some unnamed man 500 years ago said we have to do it. It's it's just like um the wearing of corsets. I hear women say, Oh, men make us wear corsets and stilettos. I disagree with that. Women like stilettos, and that's why they buy them because they like the way it makes them, they like the way they feel when they move in them.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

If women didn't like stilettos, they would be gone, they would go out of business because we wouldn't buy them.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

No, because they're uncomfortable. So so but but the way you move in them feels feels good. That part does.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

I think the whole thing about doing this for men, like I that never even entered my mind that you're doing this for men. I guess you are kind of doing some of this for men because especially for those of us that are dating and trying they want to, we all have goals and we maybe want to get married and start a family. We're thinking, oh, you know, I want to work on this because I want to attract a man. But the thing is, is that wouldn't last if you were just for fake. Like if you were just like, oh, I have to do this to get a man, and then I'm gonna go back to my sloppy self after I get a man, it's not gonna last. You know what I mean? It doesn't make any sense, it's not logical that you would be doing this only for a man.

SPEAKER_02 7:24

It's too uncomfortable. You there's other there's other uh positives you get out of it, and that's why women do it. And the same thing is true with physical grace, there's a lot of positives that you get out of it, and these are not uncomfortable. The things that we're talking about are not uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

So, how do you know if this is something you need to work on?

SPEAKER_02 7:44

You mean there's all these different aspects. You may speak really well, but not move really well. One of the things that that is a real simple thing is as you walk along, like say you're shopping and there's these uh store windows, watch the way you walk or move. You can see it for yourself. Look at yourself as you move.

SPEAKER_01 8:01

But what if someone is like, well, I have no idea. Well, how would I know if I need to work on this? What if there's the ladies out there listening and they're like, Well, maybe I'm good at it? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

How do they know? Well, I I guess it's different for everybody if it's your the way you move your hands. Look at people that you what I do is I've looked at people that I admire on film, uh, actresses, at least the characters they play and how they move in I and I try to be like them. A lot of us have kind of um what do you call it, like people that we admire, that we want to be like. And what about that person do you want to be like? And far as physical goes, do you want do you like the way they walk? Do you like the way they talk? Do you like the way they carry themselves? But you do it with yourself. I I know a lot of women, because because I was this way, I I got kind of role models that I've got up for myself as I watched movies. And we don't all pick the same person.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

I have kind of an uncomfortable point of view, I guess, and or not a very popular point of view to to this question about how do you know if you need to work on this. I think everyone does.

SPEAKER_02 9:10

You're probably right. Yeah, you're probably right to some degree.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

It may sound wrong of me when I'm saying that at in the beginning here as we're just getting started. But as we go through this list, I think you're gonna start nodding and agreeing. Okay, yeah, this is of course we can all work on some of these things because we have a really extensive list that we're gonna go through today. Yeah, I know this is a lot of this is a lot of things to be playing. And you say this all the time. I love that you say this all the time. I feel like we could have a t-shirt that says this. It's like you will you will never really arrive with some of these things that we talk about in Fascinating Womanhood. They're all going to be things that you will work on probably your whole life, and physical grace is absolutely included in that. And when we start diving into this list, like I said, I think you're gonna realize, oh yeah, we do we all need to work on these things.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

On some part of it. On some parts of it, and you may not every part, but some parts.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

Yeah. So today we are talking about two main aspects of physical grace and how to attain it. And I know that sounds really short, and most of our podcasts are long, and this one is probably going to be similar, but the two different parts are so important, and we're gonna go through them really in depth. The first one is appearance. Now, when people hear appearance, they're probably thinking, Well, what does that have to do with physical grace?

SPEAKER_02 10:34

Yeah, well, a part of it is how you dress, and we're not saying you gotta have some extensive wardrobe with designer clothes because you absolutely don't.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

One of the things what why why do you why is it about how you dress? What does have the way you dress have anything to do with how you move?

SPEAKER_02 10:49

Well, does it flatter your shape? Is it is it ill-fitting? Like, for example, pizza clothes. Pizza clothes do not flatter anybody when you're in pizza clothes. You don't tend to move or walk the way you would if you were in clothes that made you feel attractive. You just don't, you tend to be more slobby.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

Well, when you dress for your body, as you said, and for your shape, you're gonna have more confidence. But I also think you touched on something just there that was really important. When you wear certain things, you might change the way you move and not be aware of it. Perfect example for every woman out there, flip-flops. It's very difficult to be graceful and flip-flops. In fact, it's so difficult. I'm not even kidding you. I used to work in a clothing store and we banned them. They were banned for all the employees, even though we sold them. We weren't allowed to wear them because they went flip, flop, flip, flop. We're walking around the floor and it it gave a message to customers per home office of less polish. In a sense, no physical grace. And that that made our image look bad. So I think you're right when you say, well, what you're wearing affects how you move.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

And well, another another one is big, um, they're not as popular now, but they were for a long time. Those big clunky shoes and boots that women wear. They look like army boots, only less or more clunky. It's you can walk well in those, but it's harder to not clunk in those kind of shoes.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Well, same thing with tennis shoes. There's nothing wrong with tennis shoes, but some women tend to not be quite as graceful wearing tennis shoes. Some women are are incredibly graceful in tennis shoes. Oh, yeah. It just depends on your personality, and that's why we say dressing for your body and your shape. What can you get away with?

SPEAKER_02 12:50

Yeah, that's that's the way it is for a lot of us. What can I get away with?

SPEAKER_01 12:55

Well, and like for me, I'm I'm a little bit thicker legged, and when I wear something that like shows my legs, I feel self-conscious, and therefore that self-conscious kind of body language is not gonna, I'm not gonna be as graceful.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

You know, if you here's a here's what all of us I think experience probably often, maybe me more than some, but when you get dressed in the morning, have you ever put on something and just thought, I don't feel good in this today. I don't like the way I feel in this whatever, this top or these pants. And so when you when you put on something that makes you feel good, like I feel good in this. Now you may own a number of things, you may good feel good in that dress or that top a different day, but you don't today. It affects if you just ignore it and go ahead, you're not gonna feel as good about yourself the entire day. If when you put it on, you think I just feel I just feel kind of clunky in this uh today. And so take it off and get put something on that you feel good about yourself in that day.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Exactly. That's why we spend so much money on wedding dresses and so much time trying them on, because on our wedding day, we want to look the most beautiful that we can. You want to feel like a prisoner. Yeah, and and and that's just your wedding day, but uh, you can pair that into every day if you're going to a job or if you're going to meet with someone, going to a party, an event. You want to feel confident and you want to put something on that makes you feel attractive, and that is going to make the journey of being more graceful so much easier.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

Oh, yeah. Half the battle's right there. And another one is the fabrics we pick. And I know it sounds kind of like no big deal, but I think one of the reasons that people, not just women, like t-shirt fabric is because it's comfortable and soft. And you can wash it. And it doesn't wrinkle. Yeah. And you know, like, have you ever have you ever worn um the first thing that comes to my mind is an itchy wool sweater. Warn something and you wear it, and it's just kind of uncomfortable all day because it's itchy.

SPEAKER_01 15:05

Oh boy, that's the worst.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

Yeah, but we do sometimes buy clothes that are either kind of scratchy or kind of thick and kind of just rub against you wrong. And then the whole day you feel you don't really feel great. It's not like you feel sick. You you just it's just uncomfortable. And when you're uncomfortable in any way, you it affects your grace.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Yeah, I like to choose fabrics. At least this is just me personally. I like to choose fabrics that I think are just ridiculously soft if I can. Obviously, not everything is gonna fall under that category, and every event that you go to, is that gonna be appropriate? But I try to look for things that are soft because to me that makes me feel more graceful. And I think everyone's gonna have a different opinion on this. Maybe women don't go for the softness quite as much, and they go for the texture or they go for the washing, but but the point isn't all of those things, the point is how the fabric makes you feel, right? How do you feel when you're in it? And the same thing goes for colors. I think we need to bring back, we don't talk about this anymore. I don't know why. We it's not something that we are teaching our daughters what colors to pick that go well on us. Look good with your skin color.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

Why don't we talk about that anymore? I don't know. It was a bit it's it's like things have to be trendy to do it, and there's a trend of it, and then it goes away.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

I mean, I do hear people say, like, oh, I can't wear that because it washes me out, but that's really it. It's not, I don't really hear women say, Oh, you know, my skin is warm, and therefore these are the shades that look good. Like, we need to get more into that, and I think you can really look up a lot of that on YouTube, and there's so many experts that will go through it. I think you can like look at the veins on your arms, and there's all these, there's a science to how you can figure out all the shades that look perfect on you. Yeah, I think picking colors is just one more step of feeling more confident. Have you ever put something on and you walk in a room and people go, Oh my gosh, that color on you is amazing.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Yes. My mother took a course in that years ago, and she said, I remember her saying, turquoise is a color that looks good on everybody. And that's true. I never forgot that.

SPEAKER_01 17:25

That looks good on everybody, and and finding your shades is really not that difficult. And oh my gosh, does it make shopping a little bit easier?

SPEAKER_02 17:34

So why aren't there a lot so why aren't there clothes all over the place that are turquoise?

SPEAKER_01 17:38

I don't know. Good point. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 17:41

I don't know. Fashion industry hasn't got caught up to it.

SPEAKER_01 17:44

So we talked about colors and fabrics. What about the people that think that femininity has to do with, you know, bows and ruffles and flowers?

SPEAKER_02 17:54

Well, that's the most obvious, but it isn't all there is. What we talk about in Timeless is the different styles, and and what people probably are referring to here when they say they don't like that, they're probably more sporty. But when you're more sporty, you can still go with soft colors, soft fabrics. And it isn't just about bows, ruffles, and lace. And some people just aren't, it's just not their personality.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

I I'm not a fan of bows. I've never been a fan of bows, and I'm not a huge fan of ruffles, but I love a little touch of lace here and there, and I like floral prints. And I think if you all you need is just maybe one, and even then, you may not even need one because you have beautiful colors that look good on you and soft fabrics that feel amazing.

SPEAKER_02 18:37

You might have something in your hair, a headband, or something that is a touch of it. But even if you don't like that, the soft fabrics and colors of sporty clothes are very feminine.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Well, and pay attention to what you have on and how it how it changes you. I think that's a big part of this, is a lot of women will say, Well, my husband doesn't like me dressing up. I heard that all the time. He doesn't like me. He likes me in jeans and a t-shirt, which is fine. I'm sure he probably does. But have you ever considered that maybe he likes you in those casual clothes because you might move more gracefully in them and you're more comfortable in them?

SPEAKER_02 19:16

Yeah, and there's another part to that. It everyone isn't gonna fall into it. But I remember my mother telling me that my dad, when they were first married and she worked as secretary or something, he didn't like her, he thought she had really great legs and he didn't like her dressing up too much because he thought men would notice what great legs she had. He was a little insecure. So he he had her wear these really clunky shoes to think, and it was ridiculous, of course, but it was basically he some men maybe not like their wives dressing up because they're insecure about other men looking at them. And that that's that that's a possibility. It's not it's not true all the time, I'm sure, but and it also might make him feel a little bit more like a slob if he dresses, uh, doesn't dress up.

SPEAKER_01 20:04

I think that's a big one. I hear that a lot is that you know, oh, even sometimes my husband will say, What are you wearing tonight? And I'll show him what I'm wearing, and he'll be like, Oh, because he was gonna be a little bit more casual. And yeah, okay, it's okay for you to dress up and him be a little bit more casual. I wouldn't say go go wild with it, but it's if if that's what you need to feel good and confident, then go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 20:31

Uh Bob and I get it in the reverse because he, as a lot of you know, he dresses up every day. And I because I wear pants sometimes, that does sometimes doesn't seem like it's dressy compared to what he's wearing.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

Well, you guys are always really dressed up. I I don't I don't know who would be telling you that.

SPEAKER_02 20:48

I feel like you know, when he when he comes out in one of his, he has two or three jackets that are velveteen, he just likes wearing them sometimes with jeans. But it really dresses him up. And I'm wearing uh just well, I'm still kind of dressed up compared to some people. Sometimes it makes me feel like geez, do I need to do a little bit more bling? But he doesn't care.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

He doesn't even feel for the women out there that have the little kids. I mean, I have my kids are not as little anymore, but especially when they're really little, I'm in parks all the time. I'm running around, I'm getting things spilled on me, they're pulling at me, they're pulling. I mean, my daughter would lift my dress up when I would wear dresses. Yeah, you know, I've I I think that those are really challenging things, but you can do other things. You can do your hair, you can do your makeup, you can you can wear soft things that are casual and you can still throw them in the washing machine. I think they're little tiny things that you can do to feel more graceful. You could wear nail polish, just something simple like that. Well, now there's also when it comes to appearance, there's also the extreme people out there, the ladies that take it to the extreme. And by extreme, I'm mainly talking about modesty. Can you talk a little bit about that? For me, I'm I was thinking of showing really short skirts, really necklines, midriffs, just really tight clothes. I think there's a style right now to wear extremely tight things all the time. And there's a style that's been going on for a really long time. I don't know how many years now. It's been a long time with swimming bathing suits are. I mean, I just went shopping for a bathing suit not that long ago, and I had such a hard time finding something that completely covers the butt area because everything is like a thong or like showing the majority of your bottom. And I even said to my husband, I was like, we were at a pool, and I said, I feel like I'm the only woman here whose butt is covered. And he said, Yeah, and let's keep it that way. Like he was proud of me that I didn't like he doesn't, and it's not that he's ashamed or anything, it's just like there's that modesty level that everybody's different, and I we're not here to judge.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

I see what you mean. I see what you mean. Well, yeah, it it's um I never thought I've never believed that not leaving anything to the imagination was a good idea, you know. It just I think it's disrespectful to ourselves, and um and and it's not necessary to be attractive. It it's not part of being attractive, it's part of being a lot of people think that it is.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

There's this Kardashian culture out there with these ladies with these giant bums, and they have all the surgery and they're wearing these tight things and they're half naked, and a lot of people consider that to be attractive.

SPEAKER_02 23:46

Well, for one thing, statistically, not that many people look good in those things, which is probably a good deterrent for and those there's some people that wear them anyway, and you think, How did you think that you could get away with this? And it was attractive.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

Well, I think we're confusing, and this is kind of my take, this is my like two cents on it. I think that those women are potentially confusing physical grace with seduction. Yeah, and when we are trying to be seductive, yes, you are being probably quite graceful, but it's an undertone that is completely different than what we're talking about in this video or in the sending the wrong message. It's just a totally a message of I'm not a lady, and I don't I don't have these standards, and maybe that's what you want to go for, and that's who you are. But I think what we're trying to say is you want to send a more positive message, a more polished message by not showing too much.

SPEAKER_02 24:46

Well, for one thing, not everybody wants to see it, so it can be offensive to some people.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

Well, I mean, I was driving my kid to school the other day, and there were these high schoolers walking to school, and three or four girls in a row, they were wearing shorts that you could literally see the bottom of their butt cheeks hanging out of the shorts, and they're in high school. And you know, that's that's not graceful, that's not ladylike. No, it's sending a message to well, it's sending a lot of different messages, and it's it's gonna send a message to boys, it's sending a message to your to the parents, it's sending messages to the other girls that you could be interacting with.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

The messages are not positive. That's that's kind of what we're saying.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

They're they're not positive, and they're that also they may be shocked that some boys think I I I'm easy, easy or like your standards are in a different place, yeah. Like my son, who's turning 14 soon, he thinks that's gross when girls he's looking for someone that's a little bit more tasteful, yeah. And it doesn't mean you have to wear a like you know, floor-length maxi dress every day. It's I just think that's a turtleneck. I think that's why we call it extremes, like just thinking about your modesty, the more polished women are a little bit more covered.

SPEAKER_02 26:06

You know, if um and I'm not talking about Hollywood celebrities because they a lot of them dress like that, but let's just say uh political figures, they have to be careful how they dress. If political figures came out, women, of course, came out in some of those clothes, it would be all the subject of the news. They would use that and say, you know, look at look at what this person is wearing. And it wouldn't be positive.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

Well, I always think of those anchors on on the news and like new news media anchors, people that are interviewing for news shops. Can you imagine if you turn on the TV and they were wearing like a plunging neckline with their their cleavage hanging out? Like it would be inappropriate. Well, why is that inappropriate? Well, some might say, Oh, it's not professional, which is true, but it's also not ladylike.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

It's not ladylike. Well, can you imagine Kate Middleton dressing like that?

SPEAKER_01 27:01

It's not respectful. No, you can be respectful and still be attractive. I think you probably listening to this and saying, Oh, well, now I have to wear a turtleneck, it's like, no. I mean you can have that that balance, I guess, is what we're really striving now. Um, I mean, have you ever been next to somebody and and they're like their cleavage is just like everywhere, like hanging out right next to you, and you're almost kind of distracted by it because, like, woo, you know, yeah, and we're and we're women, not men. So can you imagine? Well, and there's only so much you can get away with. Like you and I both have a larger bust, and we both fully are what are fully aware that there's certain necklines that we have to be a little bit careful of.

SPEAKER_02 27:43

There's a lot of necklines when you're when you're big chested, there's a lot of necklines you have to be careful. Ones that well, uh one of my one of we one of your sisters doesn't have to worry about that. Yeah, just really have cleaving. She has and she can almost wear any neckline and it's appropriate.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

It's so funny because when we go shopping with dad, um, I love going shopping with dad.

SPEAKER_02 28:05

Yeah, he's fun.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

It's so fun to go shopping with him, but he'll constantly like show me things and I'll be like, Oh, I don't think that's gonna work on my chest.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

He does that to me too. He goes, Oh no, he doesn't know, and then he's like, Oh and I'll say, That's not gonna fit in the chester. And he'd say, Well, it looks it looks so big, but it's flat. On the hanger, it's a lot. Are you sure? Yeah, no, trust me, I know that's not gonna work. It's too low. I mean, you can wear a little something underneath there, but sometimes you just don't feel like it. Just go for something that works.

SPEAKER_01 28:44

That's what we said earlier. Dress for your shape. This is part of dressing for your shape. I also think with extremes, there's also extreme trends that people what do you think about that?

SPEAKER_02 28:57

You know, I get tired of trends because they get really old for me. Um, what is the trend now? You're younger. Sweatpants and pajamas. No, they're going for the pizza thing.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

It's just, you know, I'm I'm glad that we live in a society in a in a world right now where there are a lot of acceptable styles. I think that that's great. That you you're kind of any gene is kind of in, like you can pick where denim looks good on you and go with it. It doesn't matter. No one's gonna criticize you or make fun of you for wearing something outdated when it comes to jeans.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

Um actually any length, any length of skirt is considered okay. Yeah, any kind of pants are okay. So it's not like it used to be where mini skirts were in, and if you wore a skirt that was midi, uh you were completely out of style. I mean, you felt you felt really uncomfortable, but now there's so many options.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

Well, there's a trend, there's a trend right now, especially with younger kids, that trying to work on how you dress means that you're trying too hard and therefore you're snobby. Oh no, and that not caring as much about what you wear is cool, and not putting a lot of effort into what you're wearing is cool. I don't like that trend. Well, I guess I guess it just goes back to the whole you gotta do what's right for you. You need to wear what you feel good in. If you feel beautiful in a sweatsuit, then I guess go for it. But I think the majority of us are lying to ourselves when we say we feel beautiful in a sweatsuit. Maybe we feel comfortable and we feel okay, and that's fine, but every day you're probably not gonna feel comfortable. Well, you'll feel comfortable, but you're not gonna feel graceful and beautiful and confident in those workout clothes or that sweatsuit every single day.

SPEAKER_02 30:53

No, and and well, and to be fair, there's some really um beautiful sweatsuit outfits. There are they're expensive too. That's the problem, they're really expensive.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

They're beautiful, they're nice fabrics. But again, if you don't feel graceful and pretty and competent in them, then don't wear them. Who cares if it's a trend? Just wear what you feel good in, and that's where this whole trendy topic can kind of get you in trouble. Oh, this is cool to wear, but it does it look good on you though. Do you feel good in it?

SPEAKER_02 31:27

Okay, like like okay, it was the trend for a long time. Hip huggers, they don't look good on everybody. No, they absolutely don't, and and so if they if something like that is in style and it doesn't fit your body type or shape, don't wear them exactly.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

Well, and some women don't look good in the high-waisted pants, and those are really big, right? Or they have been big for a while, and some women just are short and they don't look as good in them, or in skinny pants, they don't look good in them. Yeah, I also think with cartoons, I don't know if you see this. I see it where I live, like women wearing like Bugs Bunny or something. Bugs bunny.

unknown 32:08

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

I did not that was not where my mind was. I don't see Betty Boop either. I I see more like Hello Kitty, or like I think there's a trend with the anime oh yeah, cartoon stuff, and you you go on popular clothing websites and you'll see like, oh, where are these t-shirts that have like goofy cartoon people on it? And you know, if you're going to Disney World, I think it's great. Wear your Disney stuff, yeah. I think it's wonderful and it's fun. But outside of Disney World or a kids' party, I feel like if you're wearing cartoon prints, I know you're laughing because you're like, I don't, this is not anywhere near what this is not something I would be interested in. You would never do this, but I'm telling you, I see that maybe people listening, if you had this, if you see this comment and send us a message because I see this all the time. I'm grown women wearing Hello Kitty stuff, and I get it. Like they love, you know, strawberry shortcake and they love that stuff from their past, but it's not the most poised, ladylike kind of approach to how you dress. Yeah, sending a message that you are child-ish, not childlike, but child-ish. Yeah, and just something to think about. I don't want to take away the joy that a lot of people have.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

Well, if it's a special occasion, you're going to a themed thing. That's completely different.

SPEAKER_01 33:36

I'm talking about like showing up to an event or whatever, and you've got like strawberry shortcake on your shirt. I don't know. I just not little unicorn. I don't want to sound like really judgy. And I think it's great women are like you know, getting in touch with their inner child. I think that's great, but I think there's other ways you can do that without wearing it, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

Um stay away from Porky Pig.

unknown 34:00

Porky.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

I love how you're bringing up all the ones that are like Bugs Bunny and Porky Pig.

SPEAKER_02 34:06

Like, I'm not actually thinking, those ones.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

No, I actually like those characters, but I can't imagine wearing them in a shirt. No, I can't either. Porky pig. And then the last one under appearance, last note that we have is self-care, which is so important. And I know it's such a a challenge for a lot of us to squeeze in our self-care time. But I think there's a difference between pampering and self-care. And that's not, we're not talking as much about pampering. Okay. Yeah, we're not doing it.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

We're not talking about having to go to the spa every week. Or I mean, it if you can afford to get manicures and pedicures, great. I think that's wonderful. But it we're not saying you have to do those things. Pampering, it isn't exactly I mean, you sometimes it's good to pamper yourself, it it's good to treat yourself, but not being a diva, like right.

SPEAKER_01 35:03

Like those I'm taking a long hour bubble bath with my glass of wine. Like that's not what we're talking about. I mean, it could be, I guess, again, yeah. But that has that doesn't have a lot to do with physical grace. That what we're talking about is taking care of yourself so that you can be more relaxed. Yeah. You slept well, like the the littlest things, like like sleeping well.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Sleeping, sleeping, and you know, sometimes when you're living through a very stressful time in your life, being conscious of that and being kind to yourself is part of self-care. Like I need to take a break, I need to sit down, I need to take a nap, or read a book, or do something different to take care of myself. That's that's also what we're talking about, not just not just pampering. And doing that isn't pampering yourself, it's taking care of yourself.

SPEAKER_01 36:00

Have you ever tried to go to an event or maybe a party or get together and you have had like an hour of sleep or maybe not sleep? Oh my gosh, yeah. How that affects your grace and your how you move. Yeah. Same thing as when you've had a wonderful night's sleep. Maybe you've had a manicure and you suddenly, and then you're wearing that beautiful dress or whatever it is that you feel pretty in, and your nails look great, and you just catch yourself. Have you ever has that ever happened to you? You kind of catch yourself. Like, I just feel so great in my skin right now. I feel so great, I feel myself, or I feel the best version of myself. We're just saying try to do those things because you it's difficult to be graceful when you are not taking care of yourself. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

It is, and you just even the way you sit is different if you're exhausted.

SPEAKER_01 36:56

Exactly. Yeah. Okay, the second part. So we just wrapped up appearance. The second part is mainly about our body language, is what we're going to be talking about. And I think this is what is more talked about when it comes to physical grace. We're going to talk about posture and poise, and all of these points, like I said, have to do with your body language.

SPEAKER_02 37:17

For example, kind of a typical one, we've talked about this before is the handshake. How you shake people's hands, how you shake people's hands. It may seem like a small thing, but if you've ever shaken hands with somebody that does one uh either the dead fish, a dead fish is really noticeable. Uh, and I don't know why people do that. I I don't, but anyway, the dead fish or just pumping pumping someone's hand and the up and down, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

The grip thing or the one squeezing their hand too tight. Really tight, yeah. Yeah. I think it depends on the person. If you're getting ready to shake the hand of a a woman at church or a woman at a school or something, or a teacher, versus shaking a man's hand that it you're he's about to do your taxes or something. I think you have a different you have a different like approach to how you're gonna shake their hand. I don't think enough people are aware of that or talking about that. You can practice your handshake all the time if you want to perfect it, but you might want to adjust it depending on who you're shaking hands with.

SPEAKER_02 38:25

Yeah, like if you were shaking hands with a celebrity, for example, how would you do it? You wouldn't want you wouldn't want any of that, you wouldn't want the dead fish, and you wouldn't want the aggressive squeeze either.

unknown 38:36

Right.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

Because it would be somebody that you don't really know, and yeah, you want a confident handshake, but I when I shake hands with certain types of men, I always have a slightly firmer handshake because I think men not only appreciate a slightly firmer one, but most men are just stronger, yeah, and they they are not gonna feel like that squeeze, I guess, quite as much as another woman. If you're shaking hands with another woman, maybe you're just a little bit more careful, but you don't ever want to squeeze anybody, like no, like you're bringing them to their knees, yeah. Never, and I disagree with the women that are like, Oh, I gotta have a power handshake to do well in my job. Like, no, you just have to have a confident handshake. Confident is different than power, exactly. I think it's just about reading the person, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:26

But then there's and if you're if it's somebody that you're trying to maybe express warmth, extra warmth to you as you shake their hand, you can take your other hand and put it over theirs.

SPEAKER_01 39:36

Yeah, you put your put your other hand on the other hand, yeah, or it's a very it's a very affectionate one, like yeah, trying to convey I'm empathetic with you, yeah. Or you can put your hand on their back or on their elbow or on their arm. Yeah, there's also when it comes to body language, a big one that I think a lot of us don't think about is sitting and how you sit down, and it we're not talking about a ballerina, you know, magically gliding into a chair. We're talking about sitting like a lady, and I I love the video that we did on the YouTube video. I don't know if you remember that YouTube video about this, and you very specifically said when you sit down, don't lead with your bum.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

Do you remember that? I do, and so many people do. We did a reel on it, we got a lot of criticism from some people, acted like men are making us do this, and it's I think we've done reels on every single point when it comes to body language, so you can look those up on our channel.

SPEAKER_01 40:38

But when it comes to sitting and leading with your bum, basically what we're talking about is sticking your bum out really far before you sit down. It's just not and leaning forward.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

Well, the other thing that I see all the time is when you just fall into the chair, it's like you pop. Yeah, you get poised over the seat and then you just let your body fall.

SPEAKER_01 41:00

I mean, we've all done it. Here's the thing is like I don't know about you, but when I have done this, I'm usually exhausted. Again, that's that's the part about the self-care, making sure we get sleep. But you know, you have those days where you don't have the sleep, and then where are you? So I've caught myself in mirrors and things like that and pictures plopping or sitting because I just am not aware of it, and then you look at it horrified, and you're like, Oh, why am I sitting like that? Why am I doing that? And then you don't feel as graceful, you don't feel as feminine.

SPEAKER_02 41:33

And how do you feel? Well, you if you just make yourself aware of how you feel when you sit a certain way, like sitting with your legs wide apart, or with one leg crossed over the other one kind of horizontally.

SPEAKER_01 41:47

Well, I think some women think that that's strong, they want to appear through their body language strong, and therefore, for some reason, they they kind of copy what we usually see men. That's how we usually see men sitting.

SPEAKER_02 42:01

Yeah, the problem is we we we can't approximate men because we're women, so it it doesn't emphasize our strength, which is femininity.

SPEAKER_01 42:11

I don't feel good about myself when I'm sitting with my legs open, I feel strange, like that means weird to me. Um, especially if you have a dress on. Oh, yeah, especially, especially if you have a short dress. Well, hopefully you're not with a short dress, but I just think uh pay attention to how it makes you feel, and then there comes walking, and I know you briefly mentioned that earlier.

SPEAKER_02 42:33

It's that that clunking versus stepping, like uh well, and also there's like a move like a locomotive with your arms chugging, you know. If you're in a real hurry, you may have to run. Uh, you know, it's almost like you're running, but you're walking.

SPEAKER_01 42:51

Well, it's almost the same with sitting, you want to be delicate, but you don't have to be a flower, you know. You want to sit into the chair gracefully, and it doesn't mean that you become a fashion model or you know, it doesn't mean you become a statue. You just want to try to aim for something that is soft, and same thing with walking, and it doesn't mean you want to walk like a pageant queen.

SPEAKER_02 43:18

Oh, the oh, that's yeah, that's performative. That's not really how people should walk, you know, the way uh the way models runway models walk, that nobody walks like that in real life.

SPEAKER_01 43:28

It's well, it's funny because I think a lot of women that are mocking femininity right now, they are comparing this topic to to just that. They're like, have you seen that movie Miss Congeniality? I'm sure you have. Yes, yeah, and how they the man in there is trying to teach Sandra Bullock how to walk like a lady, and it's absolutely ridiculous what he's trying to teach her. And they're like in the streets of New York City. If you haven't seen that scene, you should watch it. This man is trying to coach her on how to be a pageant uh contestant and And he's trying to teach her how to walk, and it's so ridiculous the way he's teaching her. I think a lot of women see that kind of joke, and they think, oh, if I'm going to improve the way I walk, instead of walking the way I do, I have to walk like a lady, and that's what walking like a lady looks like. It's not true. That's how pageant contestants walk, but you can just walk gracefully.

SPEAKER_02 44:23

Even models don't walk like that when they're not modeling.

SPEAKER_01 44:27

Well, even the whole idea of putting a book on your head is even maybe a little extreme. I think you don't have to go to that extreme to walk gracefully.

SPEAKER_02 44:36

I agree. Yeah. The goal here though is just not to walk heavy. Or loudly. Or loudly, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:44

Loudly. I think that's a big part. Sitting, not so much, that doesn't really apply, but with walking, if you're very like if you're extremely loud and you can hear yourself walking, especially if you're just wearing like even just like barefoot, you're barefoot or you're wearing socks and you're still loud, you might not be you might not be as graceful as you could be if you just sound like you're clumping around all the time.

SPEAKER_02 45:09

When you're in your house, if you're so heavy with your steps that you can hear all over the house. Yeah, like a dinosaur. Like a dinosaur, yeah. Yeah, I can but see, uh, I can hear Bob that way when I'm downstairs and he's upstairs, I know when it's him because of the way he walks, but I don't want to walk that way.

SPEAKER_01 45:31

Okay, the next one is smiling, which is I know very obvious. You're probably thinking, well, yeah, of course. But I do think that for those of us that are trying to be in a situation and they we want to have positive body language, and you're being you're gliding and you're working on your sitting and you're working on your walking, but then you're not smiling. It's kind of like the the thing that it's like the last step. And if you don't have the smiling, you can come across as maybe a little bit unapproachable, angry.

SPEAKER_02 46:06

Well, have you noticed that have you noticed that runway models they're supposed to look bored or angry? I don't I don't know where that trend is coming.

SPEAKER_01 46:15

Oh well, yeah, yeah. Supposed to look sultry and seductive.

SPEAKER_02 46:18

They look depressed.

SPEAKER_01 46:19

A lot of them look, yeah, they're like starving.

SPEAKER_02 46:22

Yeah, starving, depressed people. But I I've always um wished I had an unconscious smile. I don't. Some people have it even when they're just they're just feeling serious. But you have to either be you have to be born with that. And if you're not born with that, like I'm not, I have to I'm and you know, when I'm alone, it's not like I have to do it, but it's a really good idea to to get into the habit of smiling at people.

unknown 46:47

Right.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

Well, have you ever have you ever had someone show you a series of photos? Maybe you've been on vacation, or maybe you were at an event and like people were taking photos, and then you're in the background of some of those photos, and you look like like you want to leave, or you look really grumpy, and you're like, Oh no, I want to look like that. I didn't feel that way.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

Oh no, I look I look like I'm mad.

SPEAKER_01 47:12

Yes, exactly. And I I this happens to me all the time. It literally happened to me like last week. We had a few friends over, and there were some pictures of me, and in the background, I looked really like intense. I was like, Oh no, why did I look like that? I didn't feel that way. I have to remind myself to smile a little bit more because it it changes how people see you and it changes how you present to them.

SPEAKER_02 47:34

Yeah, yeah, and you can look just really tired or depressed, and sometimes maybe you are tired and depressed. But even if you are, when you're around other people, you can you can you know what we're doing here is we're helping you to to try and develop habits. When there are habits, you don't have to be conscious of it all the time. It'll just be it'll just be unconscious for you because you can you can develop all kinds of habits. You can develop the habit of always saying thank you. You can develop the habit of picking up after yourself. These are habits.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

Yeah, I agree. And and this may sound overwhelming to some ladies because they're like, oh my gosh, how am I gonna remember all these things? Well, that's why they're habits, and that's why you work on one at a time. You don't just like, oh my gosh, I have this overwhelming list of things I want to work on. But you see what I meant in the beginning, though, when I said everyone needs to work on this. How do you know if you need to work on physical grace?

SPEAKER_02 48:29

Well, everybody does, everybody does in some form, some aspects. So that's okay if you haven't polished all these things and it's not you're not all great at it because nobody is, so that's all right.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

Yeah, then there's hand movements. Now, hand movements uh can be absolutely magical. Um, those of you that have ever watched Marilyn Monroe, yeah, even if you haven't seen a movie, just Google her and watch how not only how she moves, how she walks and stuff, but watch her hand movements. It's actually mesmerizing. When we did this video, this YouTube video about physical grace, we actually used Lily James as a visual. And we actually, and actually, if you guys, if anybody listening to this wants more visuals, because this is a topic where you kind of need visuals. The YouTube video we did that's called Physical Grace, and it's on the Fascinating Woman Hut channel. We put so many visuals in that video. We used Amy Schumer as the kind of not as good example of physical grace, and then we used Lily James and we used walking clips, sitting clips, hand movement clips. We did handshake demonstration. So definitely watch that because it has more examples like what you're talking about. But hand movements are gonna change when your nails don't look good, and doesn't mean they have to be professionally beautiful all the time. I think it's just about them being clean and cared for. Yeah, and be and you know, and develop the habits of people that you admire. It's so hard to discuss this in a podcast because we can't show you, but I think it's about how you're carrying your hands, like what we were saying about walking, it's like being loud. Well, it's kind of about the heaviness of your hands. If you're doing really robotic kind of things with your hands, I think a good person to look up would be any female politician, pretty much. They all kind of point and dark. Why is that? Yeah, you know, like those things are not graceful, those are things I think that women think that that's powerful. I disagree. I think you're more powerful when you're more delicate.

SPEAKER_02 50:36

I agree. Because that because that's you're a woman. So don't try to be a man, you're you're gonna be a poor man if you try a poor version of a man if you try, because we we're not built that way. We're just it's just not our nature to be that way. So uh don't try to imitate a man because you won't be a good version of a man, exactly, just like a man is a poor version of a woman. Oh my gosh, yeah. Yeah, have you ever noticed men who try to be effeminate? We don't act like that, we don't do that.

SPEAKER_01 51:07

The next one, I'm anxious to hear you talk about this one because I think you're really good at talking about this. The next one is blushing.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

You either blush or you don't. What it is is allowing your own vulnerability to show instead of trying to cover it up.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

Yeah, are we talking about like literal pink cheeks? Like what does this mean?

SPEAKER_02 51:26

Well, it could be, but for a lot of us it isn't because I don't blush. But I have a brother who does and he hates it. He hates it because it makes him feel vulnerable. Because people can see it. But if you're a woman, if you're woman, it it's it's allowing yourself to be vulner showing your vulnerability is what is why does that make you more graceful? It doesn't necessarily, but it it showing your vulnerability but not hiding it is actually charming. It's charming and it's also humble, which is also attractive.

SPEAKER_01 52:00

I think too blushing is also in part of it's like part of the same conversation of kind of laughing at your mistakes and yeah, being able to see that you made a mistake and say it gracefully. Um I know this is under body language, so it's it's more like some of those cues that you have with your face and how you respond to kind of like uh misunderstandings or mistakes, like I said. And then the last one is tone of voice. Now, I I this is a huge topic, and I think we're actually gonna do an entire podcast on tone of voice because it's just such a big topic. Oh my goodness. We actually did a YouTube video about tone of voice as well that you can look up and because I just I don't want to skip over tone of voice, but if we go into it, we'll be on here another hour because it's a tiny but the the the main points about tone of voice within you know your posture poise and your body language is affecting it's it's affecting how you're graceful when you're talking about how loud you're being, how deep or high your tone is, whether you're speed talking or you're talking too much, or you're being really sarcastic, or you're using kind of foul language, all of that sarcasm and bad language is kind of a big one for a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 53:21

Yeah, we tend to be sarcastic when we don't want to be direct, and we get sarcastic. It's a habit that you develop.

SPEAKER_01 53:29

It is a habit. It's if you're not born sarcastic, you're not born with filth and foul coming out of your mouth. You you learn those things, you do, you learn them, and you learn them from others, usually. Same thing goes with yelling and being really loud. You you grow up in a house like that, you're gonna be that way, and but you can challenge it.

SPEAKER_02 53:47

Yeah, I mean, I don't really have the option of being loud because I don't have a loud voice, and it's a problem because people often tell me to talk louder. I just yeah, I can't hear you. Yeah, I just don't have a loud voice, but speed talkers sometimes people do that when they're nervous, and you can kind of watch yourself if you're speed talking.

SPEAKER_01 54:05

No, I get it. Like you get anxious or you get nervous, like you said, nervous, and this is something that is really difficult to break, and you can find yourself because if this is a habit that you have and you're trying to break it, it might take a long time for you to work on that. Yeah. But if you're in the habit of being a little anxious or stressed or nervous socially, and that's why you're doing some of these things, that's where the self-care part comes in. Maybe part of your self-care is working on your anxiety and your stress.

SPEAKER_02 54:35

Well, and being aware of oh, I speed talk or I'm talking too much, monopolizing maybe uh nervousness. And you can, when you're aware of it, you can do something about it. But sometimes you're just not aware of it. You think, oh my gosh, I'm monopolizing this whole conversation.

SPEAKER_01 54:51

Well, and in the tone of how you're saying things, I hate to say it, but it's kind of more of a masculine trait, is to be loud. And I think when we try to copy it, like we said earlier, it it doesn't look good. When women are really loud, it's even worse than when men are loud.

SPEAKER_02 55:10

Well, yeah, because it became well, for some, it can become shrill, especially in female politicians. Maybe it's because we see them more often.

SPEAKER_01 55:18

I I don't know, but uh, this is one of the reasons why I think Oprah was so successful for as long as she was. Uh, and I know she could get loud too, but when she's actually interviewing someone, I don't know if you used to watch her show. Yeah, yeah, I have watched her show, but she was so careful with her tone and how she talked to people, and they she was famous for kind of getting people to spill things and tell her things, and not all of that was her tone, but it reminds me what you said reminds me of her because she was so gifted and trained, I guess you could say, at all and she listened and she could talk and you felt comfortable around her. Yeah, um as I'm old.

SPEAKER_02 56:01

She I know she was sometimes kind of loud and and annoying, but well, well, but okay, another one is and I'm old, so I'm gonna go back to some of the past, but Barbara Walters, very famous journalist. Oh, yes, who was famous for being able to get on to get interviews with people that who never gave interviews, and it's because she was respectful and she wasn't poised. She was very poised, she even interviewed my mother, but she she interviewed what I read was Barbara Streisand never gave interviews, and she got one with her, so yeah, she was fair.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

You knew you felt safe in her presence, and part of that is is we don't talk about this enough, but that's ladylike, and it is being ladylike can make you very powerful, as it did with with those ladies that we just brought up, and successful, and successful and successful, yeah. It's not talked about enough. Whereas let's just go on the flip side of that, Rosie O'Donnell, who had a talk show for a very, very short time, and she she was very the opposite of these things that we're talking about, and I think she had her own charm and her own kind of way of making feel people feel comfortable, but it was not in the category of ladylike, and it was not in this what we're talking about in this podcast. Same thing with Ellen DeGeneres, she had a talk show and she used sarcasm all the time, and you know, mean kind of jabs at people to make people laugh. That's not ladylike. I mean, obviously, she doesn't want to be ladylike, we all know that. But yeah, if you're looking for kind of like a visual and how to compare it, and what actually ultimately happened to those ladies' careers, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 57:39

That's yeah, that's true. Yeah, what happens, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:42

But yeah, the tone of voice is so important, and I we will do a separate podcast on that one, um, because it's just it's such a big topic, it's so important. I think the for the ladies that are talking to their husbands, the way that you're speaking to your husband about whatever it is, your tone is half of the battle of that's true because and the problem is sometimes you're not aware of your tone.

SPEAKER_02 58:06

So if we can if if we can help you in some way to become more aware, you might be once you're aware of it, you'll correct it. You you you know what to do.

SPEAKER_01 58:14

Yeah, everything from settling a misunderstanding with him to asking for something from him, to sharing things with him, sharing your emotions and your feelings with him. Your tone is everything in there. I mean, that's just so it's just so important. So we'll do we'll cover that one on another time. Okay, well, that's our list. I hope you all enjoyed this conversation. I know I did. Thank you, mom, for all of your very valuable advice and yours as well. And for putting this in your book. I think this is such an important section in your book. For those of you that haven't read Dixie's book, Fascinating Woman for the Timeless Woman. It is available on Amazon as well as our website, which is fascinatingwomanhood.com. You can find everything about us on our website, our story, our whole book library, coaching opportunities. You can coach, uh, get book a coaching session with us or one of our teachers. You can buy Dixie's masterclass, which she sells online with so much more about being feminine and cultivating that in your life and developing your relationships. It's all on our website. And if this episode and the series resonated with you, feel free to share it with a friend that you think it would resonate with as well. And this is the end of our ladylike behavior series. Hope you enjoyed it. Please send us some fan mail. Let us know what else you want us to discuss and talk about in future podcasts. And we'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_02 59:49

And stay feminine.

SPEAKER_01 59:50

Bye.