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God’s Anointing Opens Doors No Man Can Shut

• Dr. Wendell Hutchins • Episode 99

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What happens when the anointing of God rests on your life?

In this powerful episode of the Courageous Faith Podcast, Pastor Wendell Hutchins returns to discuss how God's anointing opens doors, creates favor, and grants believers authority in every area of life.

The conversation explores:

• How the anointing produces supernatural opportunities
• Why grief often follows spiritual and personal victories
• How thanksgiving protects your mind from depression
• Why Christians must exercise biblical authority in government
• The importance of financial transparency in ministry
• The sacrifices leaders must make to avoid becoming stumbling blocks

Pastor Wendell also shares why believers must stop remaining silent and begin walking boldly in dominion, both spiritually and civically.

If you’ve ever wondered how to recognize God’s favor, navigate emotional highs and lows, or live with courageous faith in today’s world, this episode is for you.

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SPEAKER_02

Welcome to Courageous Faith Podcast. We are so excited to be here this morning, and I am back. I'm so thankful. Um, James and Rocky, you guys did an incredible job last week. That was such a uh an important topic and and lively discussion. I enjoyed every moment of it. And um I want to thank you guys for standing in and praying for me. And I had um been under the weather, so to speak, since Sunday. I was running a high degree of temperature for four or five days, and I had to work it out, pray it out, soak it out, and all that. But I'm glad to be back. I'm excited about what's going on in the earth. I'm excited about rededicating America to God. I am so thankful for the apparatuses of evil that have been constructed over, that have become very libelous for the church, that have been constructed over uh the atmosphere of and the and the providence of God's people in North America. I'm I'm glad the glass is shattering and the atmosphere is is being cleansed because millions of people were praying this past weekend. And so I'm just thankful for everything God's doing. And then I'm thankful for you guys. And I'm I'm so thankful for um in my prayer time, I was reflecting on what God is doing. And we want to get in that this today. We on this podcast, we want to talk about all the great things God is doing, and we want to talk about the people we're praying for and what God is is going to do in their life. So, welcome to the great courageous faith podcast.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I like that. Welcome, James. Glad to have you back. Pastor, glad to have you back on. We needed you. I'm glad you started off the episode, so people are probably still here. But no, God has been so good this past week. Yeah. Oh my goodness. Like I think for this past week, it's been a while since I've noticed, but I'm only thinking this past week I've I've had like tears, but also tears of joy, yeah, knowing how good God is.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I had a Bible study on Thursday. I even had testimony when I covered you on Thursday. Such good things, good things. And as I was driving to Bible study, it's like I was being attacked with grief and things like that. And I just put on worship music and I just gave it to God. I started praying, and I felt an instant just gone, covered, peace beyond any understanding. Just and then I was I got to go coast in the Bible study. It was like, and that kind of how the week ended as well. The week ended on the top, yes, well, on Sunday was amazing because I had friends come to church. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, two families here.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it was wow. Oh my goodness. And which was crazy. I think I invited the most people this past week to church than I ever have.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But I see that you see the return on the scene, though. Yeah, and that's casting that makes it worth it when they're like, This is where I'm coming back. I'm coming back. And it's like, oh, yeah, good.

SPEAKER_02

That's I had a man come up to me yesterday morning, precious family, uh, just very well appointed, look, you know, look sharp, ready to worship. They came up to after church and they said, We want, we want to meet you and we want to tell you. The man was almost teary-eyed, you know. He said, I want to tell you something. People don't preach this kind of word anymore. And he said, I want to thank you. And I want to, I want to let you know you've got a new member. Come on. Because he said, I've been looking for some preacher to tell the truth. So, isn't that something? And you know, it's it's the way God's moving. So it has nothing to do with me. God gets all the glory, but it's just people are hungry for authentic realities in worship. And they're they're absolutely craving a true, authentic word from God with without the um without the schema of men's opinions. You know, they're looking for something that is transparent, that is authentic, that is truth, unvarnished. And um, so yeah, that's that's that's what's happening, man.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's so true. I actually uh was in the real world, the the real world this past week, and I'm talking to this lady who I had never never met, never met her in my life. Yeah, talking to her, having a conversation with her, come to find out she saw you on Flashpoint, which was just like the day after, which was crazy. Tell about that. That was amazing. Yeah, tell about that. And she was telling me that man is anointed. You need to protect him. This and that. Um you gotta no no no no.

SPEAKER_01

You gotta tell because you are you called me to tell me everything, so you gotta you can't just give a taste.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I was telling you the other day, I'm done telling my testimony so many times. Well, you can tell this is good.

SPEAKER_02

It's uh it's it's the way you testify, exactly, and God uses that to open doors. So you went into a place of business to solicit business, yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and you know, usually when you go to solicit of business, they just here's a card and they tell you to walk away. Yeah. Well, this lady gave me a card and basically told me to walk away. I look down, there's no name, and there's a regular number to that I can find on Google. I'm not okay with that. I'm the how you doing, man. What you got going on today? I like your earrings. Just start talking to her.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And uh, and then she was like, Okay, I'm a bite. How long have you been doing this? Well, I've been doing this for my church for such and so for this long. She was like, What church do you go to? Like asking me, kind of like interviewing me. I was like, Well, I go to Church of Champions. I think I've heard of that place. I think I know someone who goes there. I was like, really? And we're talking, and I was like, Where do you go? She goes, I don't really have one right now, but I do tune into Gene Bailey, you know, Flashpoint. And that was it. The game was over. I was so excited because she didn't know the night before somebody was on Flashpoint. And so I was like, Did you watch it last night? I sure did. I was like, Did you like it? She goes, Oh, I loved it. That man was good. Man, I know that man. That's my pastor. Matter of fact, I'm on a podcast with him. You want to watch it, you want to see. So I get on my knees, I can get beside her. Look, this is us on YouTube. Oh my god. Can you send me that? So I send her our podcast. I have her personal number. I invited her to church. Like it was, and then she was like, That man, before I left, that man is annoying. You need to protect over him. You know what? I'm gonna make sure this car gets on the right desk. And I was like, there we go, covered.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you talk about that, you know, the dynamic of uh, and I don't know what you guys have on deck, but the dynamic of using, and I want to be careful how I say this because I don't want it to sound flagrant, but the anointing opens doors. So when you're under the mantle of an anointing, if you have uh if you're submitted to an anointing, um, a mantle, that that anointing has providential authority in the spirit world, and it will open doors for you and give you favor. And you see that throughout Hebraic scripture, you know, from Genesis is riddled with how God ordered the steps of his anointed and how doors open. And in fact, the the anointing is so strong in uh in that covenantal mantle, uh, and I use those elastic words to to try to draw a pictorial people can envision this, but the uh the anointing, uh Aaron said it's like oil that drips from the beard to the skirts of the uh of the ephod. So uh or the linen garment of the priest. So if you're if you think about the anointing that covers your life, if you're submitted to its authority, right, and you're walking in in sync, in rhythm with that anointing, it goes before you and opens doors. It follows behind you and protects you. Right? And you you just think about the the favor of the Lord. Abram went into a place where there were ill ill-conceived ideas and there were there were intemperate men, and they were callous toward uh their lust and they would act upon their desires. And he felt very threatened. And so he told his wife to lie about her identity. And she's m they're moving into the courts of the pagans, uh people who have given themselves to the worship of their own lust and called it idolatry, you know. But this is this is what enthuses them is to act out in sensuality any desire they have. They go to this place, the king gives them uh he gives them a medium in in which they can traffic through his kingdom. He houses them, he desires Sarah because she's beautiful, and uh he deigns to take her, he is going to take her and bed her. And the angel of the Lord that was in the government of Abraham's covenant troubled that man and said, Don't you touch her. And that man became, I believe his name was Abela, he became so upset because he he heard from God that that is Abram's wife, not his sister. And he said, Why hast thou troubled me? Why have you brought this curse upon me? Why didn't you tell me? I would have never touched her, I would have never even allowed my mind to want and desire her. Why didn't you tell me? Because the anointing on you is so powerful, I can't admit, I can't deal with it. That's the thing about the anointing of God, that's what you're talking about now. God giving you favor with a woman, little did you know she didn't have a church, but she's watching something, and you were able to make that connection, and suddenly it opened the door. I'll get this up to the right people. And that's something that's the way God, that's the way the kingdom of God worked. And what I love about that is you took your testimony, you went in for a job, you saw an opening, a crack form, and you stepped through it with a testimony. Not an appeal. Hey man, give me a chance. No, no, no. You you immediately leapt in with, I'm doing this for the work of God. Where do you go to church? Well, I go here. Where do you go? You see what I'm saying? The interaction of that? Yeah. I just think it's a phenomenal portrait of how God works. And that's what I'm so thankful for in this house is that people operate in that kind of kingdom love and testify of his goodness. So I I really am excited about that. I'm very thankful too, about for me, I'm thankful for the ladies who helped me serve uh my wife. And I'm thankful for the ladies and the men who are helping serve, you know, I love Brother Ray and Sister Shirley, and I miss them terribly. And they were traveling for a few weeks, from what I understand. And then she had a fall and uh was injured. And so for everyone who has loved them and checked on them and talked to them, there's no value that you can place upon that, right? And so uh people that step into those open doors of service and opportunity, I just think it's phenomenal. And what I was gonna point out is it's the main driver of all of that is it's about souls. It's all about souls. If we ever lose the idea that king the kingdom is not about souls, we might as well pack it up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

No, for sure.

SPEAKER_01

No, I mean, I think that's I love that you came in first of all and foremost with a a spirit of gratitude and thankfulness. Yeah, because uh it changes the the complete view of what what our world really is. I mean, there's plenty of things you I think you mentioned it a minute ago. You're like you were having a bad week, or there was all these things that were going wrong, or something like that. I forgot how you put it, but challenges. It was like grief, I think is what you said, right? There's this wave of grief, but then you reframed the thought process and became grateful and started thinking. And you just think about yesterday uh or Sunday rather, and you know, all week long you and I had been messaging back and forth, and you were talking about your friend. And I was like, Well, why don't you why don't you bring him over or whatever? Because you were talking about run coaching or something, right? Yep. And so he and I, we all sat down, him, he and I and Jordan, we all sat down for a while, yeah, like an hour and a half, two hours just talking, really, and then they stayed and worked out for a little bit. Um, and so, but we're just talking about life, talking about football, talking about you know what he wants to do, his dreams, and you know, just the relationships they've had. And you know, we cut up a little bit, and uh, and then Sunday he comes to church. Yep, walked in the door, and I saw him. I was going, I was going back to the back, someone was asking me for something. I saw him, I was like, dude, is that Jordan? I text him. Um, and then, you know, same thing, you know, uh a little later on, somebody walks up to me while we were closing, and uh after your after the altar call that you had called, and someone came up to me and said, Hey, so-and-so wants to get baptized. And uh I was like, Can she do that? And I was like, Well, yes. The answer is let's go. Come to one of those churches where you have to have a special son. No, you don't have to wait until next next the fourth Thursday of every other month, right?

SPEAKER_02

What hindereth thee? The water is ready.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So um, but that's that's what I mean is like having that that attitude and that mindset, there's so much to be thankful for because God is doing so many wonderful things in spite of all the challenges we see. God is still working.

SPEAKER_02

Well, he is working, and that's what's so exciting. But I I think you know that this conversation as it as it develops, uh, I can relate to what Rocky is saying. And I don't think people, as much as I've dealt with death and my family, the historical picture of my family has been touched dramatically by the the death angel. But um, I don't think people really understand what it is to lose a mother or a father. And then uh how those waves of grief come. And so often they come right on the heels of something fantastic happening in your life. And so in my study, you know, I'm I'm always trying to map the mind and think about things. But I have found in my lifetime, and you could touch on this through physiology, uh when when your body is going through something that is extremely uh back up and high, and you're you're you have all this release of endorphin and you've got some great victory. It it is just the frailty of our human psyche to as high as you can travel and and euphoria, you can descend to that depth and and not despair, but just down just be just losing it, just uh feeling ineffectual or or taking hold of some past grief. And if you're not guarding against that, if you don't mit if you don't know how to mitigate that, you'll allow that plum to fall all the way to the bottom. It's almost like fathoming the bottom. You know how when you were kids, you were ri riding in a rowboat, you'd stand up and you'd stick uh a a fishing rod or you'd fish stick some stick down to the bottom or the oar down to the bottom to see if you could touch the bottom of of the lake. We do that same thing spiritually. And um and you know, if we don't know what's happening spiritually, we'll it'll it'll become sociological because it will manifest in our life. But you you plumb the very depths of your soul, your psyche. So you mitigate that with the word. You cut that off. Oh no, soul. You will rejoice in the God of your salvation, and you leap to that good memory. I do it for my you know, my dad. I always try to jump to something that I I can hear him speak a word to me, or an instruction, or uh a little joke, you know, a little quip. Uh his humor was amazing. And so I'll leap to that and I'll start giving God praise for the kind of father that I had. And he and I were dramatically different, you know what I mean? He he his his personality was much like his mother. I was exactly like his father. And so uh we we were not the same in personality, but there was there's very few people in the world have had a father like that, you know? And so you jump on that bandwagon of praise and thanksgiving and say, Oh no, no, no, no, soul. And that's what David would do. He would say, I'm gonna encourage myself in the Lord. And your soul is your mind, will, and emotions. And so you have to take governance over that. He is plastered all over that gem over there. Change your mind, change your life. You know, do you you take dominion over that mind, same thing with your emotions, same thing with your will. And you submit it to God and you come under that the appropriation of that mantle. Thy will be done, Lord. And that's when that's when you walk into those places of business and say, I've come as an ambassador of Jesus Christ, and I'm coming submitted to his will. Now this door will be opened. That's where the people that know how to speak faith. And in the ecclesiastical world, it's it's commonly rebuffed as uh word of faith preachers. Well, I understand what people are trying to say and and their snide remarks that are made toward that. I understand the flamboyant extravagance that that can lead to. But if you back down to the premise, word of faith, please deliver me from a preacher that's not word of faith. Yeah. Yeah. You're you want me to submit to somebody that is going to speak a word to me that's not born out of faith. Yeah. The Bible says if it's not of faith, it's sin. So anyway, that's a bandwagon we won't get up for. But you understand what I'm saying? No, for sure. You live in that disposition of saying, I've come here blessed. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. My my temporary grief is bound to a loss, right? I I I grieve over that loss, but that has nothing to do with coloring or complecting the word of God or his goodness to me.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I mean, the when you're talking about the mind, will, and emotions, surrendering, that's it's the heart surrendered to God. I did a a study a while back, back when we uh were doing this thing called Coffee House, and um it was on the Shema.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And it was on the different elements of how that they broke down the Shema and what each part's about. And one of the things that uh I think yes, sir, was one of the most important, well, not important thing, but one of the things in the original Hebrew that the heart, they really had no concept for like what the heart really was. That's right. And so to them, it was what we call the soul, the heart, the mind, will, and emotions. Yeah. And so when it says, I will love the Lord my God with all my heart, so that's all of my being, everything that I have. So I'm literally surrendering my mind, my will, and my emotions. Right. And in that surrender, uh, you mentioned uh on Sunday, you talked about how that's how revival starts, is with a surrendered heart.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And so every revival, every new opportunity, every awakening has begun with a surrendered heart to God. So giving everything that you have over to Him. And then when you do that, then when you walk into an opportunity, for most people, it seems like the door is slammed in your face, or when you're dealing with grief or you're having a struggle, a new door opens, or your eyes are open, or a a new um joy can come because you're not operating from the same dimension that everybody else is operating. Because you've you started with surrender. You started with giving everything over to God, and He's handling everything for you. He's taking taking taking taking control of the things that you can't control yourself.

SPEAKER_02

This is this is one of the ways I look at it, and this is so uh so rich. The tenor of it and the texture of it is so absolutely rich to understanding maturity in in God. But I was when I was talking to uh Gene Bailey in that episode that we did uh last week, I mentioned to him the fact we were talking about revival, and I was talking about, you know, the predominant uh theme of most people's lives when they're pursuing revival is to pursue God's presence. Right. And so we're we're pursuant of his presence. We're wanting to entertain his presence. We're wanting to worship. And so most people think that awakening comes first with good worship music. Yeah. If I can get into his presence, there's fullness of joy. I sit at his right hand, I abide there forevermore. So we're very much um centered in the reality of presence. But few people understand the second pillar of revival is dependence. And so when I'm traveling or when I'm doing or when something hits me, or when a moment, you know, I've been I've had a great high, and then a moment comes, and that grief or that um weakness, right? Just that condescension of the spirit. And I've been up here, I've been in the heavens, I've been in glory. Look at Moses. He was captured in the presence of God 40 days and 40 nights. And he comes down and he's immediately smitten with grief because the people of God are covorting in their open sin and making a rival God out of their lust. And he's heartbroken. So he goes from the highest peak of revelation to condescend to the lowest depths of Hinnem, the the Hades of the soul. Right? And he's and his his emotions are all over the map. So when it when those things happen to me, what I like to do is immediately lead to Thanksgiving because I remember, and this is the way I mitigate it, is that I remember those things testify to me of my dependence upon God. You know what I mean? It's it's not Paul said it's not I, but Christ in me, the hope of glory. And so sometimes when we get high and we get elevated and we get excited and we've had a big win in our life, it's easy to start buying into the to the cultural uh vocabulary of look at what I did. Look what I have achieved. But those moments that pierce that veil are the things that are ennoble, those things that are grief-stricken, those things that are colored with pain, and they remind you, they touch the complexity of your soul and say, Let me remind you of your dependence on God. So I turn every moment of grief into a beautiful mirror that says you're totally dependent upon Him. And that's that's a good way to assassinate your ego.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. But by the grace of God.

SPEAKER_02

Right? Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's easy, especially in the James's business, where they're handing out medals every day and talking about how great people are and standing up on a podium and doing all this stuff, and they're up there, you know, flexing.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. I mean, that's description, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And so but think about that spiritually, think about that economically. You know, what what do men do when they have a uh midlife crisis? Buy a nice car, going buy cars or doing God knows what. Buying a car bet and doing stupid stuff, you know, and I'm just dying their hair. I'm being facetious. Yeah, right. So we do things because we don't want to lose, we don't want to lose the juice and the elixir of our youth, and we're we're conquering, we're doing these things, you know, and and when that thing fades, when that starts fading, and you start realizing your your age, and you're you're losing your dexterity, and you're not what you used to be in all, that can that can be a huge swing emotionally. And and the way you pierce all of that is with keeping God king and keeping your life under the mantle of his anointing and walking out his word in whatever stage your life of life you're in, first stage, second stage, or third stage.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. You know, you you bring up the analogy of you know, one of the things we experience in the you know, in the competitions and things that we do. And I deal with this all the time. I'm constantly having to mitigate people's highs and lows, right? Whether it's attaining their goal or losing, whatever it is, right? And I find there's a like the the parallels in life as well is that people are always reaching for something, always chasing something. So in my world, people are chasing personal records, they're chasing podiums, they're chasing world championships, whatever it may be. And when they attain it, when they get it, they get so excited and you know, they're amazing and they're so excited about the training and all the, you know, we've been doing all the right things, have the best coach ever. But if they miss it, yeah, they go into an event and they don't get their best race ever, or you know, they they don't qualify for some world champion. They they go the exact opposite and they go so deep. And it's like, I should have done more, I didn't do enough, I'm old, I'm there's there's all exactly, and they don't look and see them, and that's one of the things I'm always trying to to navigate is you need to see, it's not about this one particular event. It's not about this one particular goal. Do you see where you've been, where you've come? Do you see how far you've traversed and the the end goal, the race or the podium? That's like the celebration of all the days you've put in, getting up early and all the discipline you put in. Well, on the flip side of that, on the same thing, when God does something great for us, when he does something amazing, yes, it's a blessing, it's awesome. But what doors did he open? What did he teach me along the way to give me the opportunity to receive that blessing or to have that new opportunity? What growth have I achieved? And so what I'm learning on a daily basis is that those highs are great, but they pale in comparison to the journey that we take in the middle, in the middle of it. That's right. And what we learn in the maturity we get from it. And it's in that traversing of that journey, that's when the tough things happen. That's when you learn how to have peace that passes all understanding, how to have joy in the face of sadness and grief and all those different things. And so I think that when that door opens, you can celebrate it and you can get excited. But really, all that is, that was just that was just that extra little cherry on top for all the wonderful thing God's taught you and brought you through. And then, well, now we've we've leveled up. Now, guess what? We're gonna learn more, we're gonna grow more, and then there's gonna be another hilltop or another pyramid we're gonna get to climb to and we're gonna get to have that joy again. And so, you know, all these things to me are just it's it's wonderful to be able to see it. But uh to me, it's it's awesome to see how God is taking us on this journey of life. And the quicker we are to submit our will to him, submit our lives to him, um, the greater things he can do through us.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and that and the thing about it is is you you do recognize that one of the fastest ways, one of the one of the uh simplest and quickest ways to discern where people are. You know, it's often said that people who have been forgiven the most are sometimes the most difficult to live with. And the reason is is because those people have forgotten where they came from. And instead of staying humble, they've been they've been elevated and lifted up in their own mind and they've forgotten where God brought them from. You were going to the penitentiary if God didn't step in and save you. Or you were in the penitentiary. That's right. What do you mean by judging someone else for the wrong color shirt they're wearing? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm using elastic language, but you were you were standing on Haman's gallows. You were about to be lynched before the population and have your name forever besmirched with the sins of your life. And and you're going to be unkind to this darn. You see, our language has to be laced with the dimension of love we have received. And those people that live under covenant, they don't get haughty and they don't get lifted up. They allow the penetrating uh forces of life to remind them look where the Lord has brought me from. You know? Um it it will it will rid it will wash your mouth out with uh Thanksgiving will wash your mouth out with with resentment. You won't you won't have a resentful tongue? Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like whatever you go through, and I've gone through some things, and I'm going through some things. But I wake up every day reminded of the brilliant life that I have been given. Come on. And I'm going to give God thanks for what He has given me, not what I'm losing.

SPEAKER_03

It's all about what you're seeing. What do you see? If I see the bad, my mind's gonna be bad. I'm gonna be right.

SPEAKER_02

You see the present.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. Without the past, yeah, without the future, right?

SPEAKER_02

You're exactly right.

SPEAKER_03

I was telling James, like I think I've done some testimonies. Well, I'm like, I can't be because that's all I see every single week, every single day I have a new testimony, little things.

SPEAKER_05

That's right.

SPEAKER_03

That they sound big, but it's just an everyday occurrence because that's what I look. I look at what God's doing in my life. How he my daughter fell the other day off of my bed, which is like five feet high. To me, I put in my life every day get out of bed in the morning because I don't know if I'm breaking an egg or not, because I'm high in my bed. It's not that tall.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I used to have a bed like that, and I saw the legs off.

SPEAKER_03

I'm about to do that. I'm done with it, I'm about to put the thing on the floor. But my daughter fell off of it. Road fell off. Guess what? Not a single scratch. She she did a summer start, landed, and stuck it like she was a gymnastics. It was amazing. Just stuck it like she was. She hadn't done it again, she won't do it again, but she stuck it like she was a gymnastics. She was like, ah, and smiling. I was like, look at God. First thing I said is thank you, Jesus. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_02

First thing landed on her neck. Exactly. Yeah. But that's what that's a testament. That's part of that covering. It's part of that anointing, you know. Uh, and I was thanking God early this morning for my children. And I'm thinking about James and Leah, and I'm thinking about you know, how can I say this nicely? Sometimes when people want to attack you, they'll attack you through attacking your children. They don't have the um, they don't have the government. I'll be nice. They don't have the anatomical structure to attack you face to face, right? So they'll try to curse your children and just come out about your children. And so um when that happens, I just start praising God for my kids, every one of them. And I don't care what the devil says, right? But I started reflecting on that this morning about my natural children and all that God has done for them to bless them. Just how absolutely blessed they've been in their life. And I started praising God and loving God, and I started calculating a few things, started running through my mind, and I'm thinking about how blessed they are. And then I checked, and they're in the top 1% of the givers of this church. They support this church immaculately and miraculously. This church wouldn't exist without their passion to drive it, right? So I was just thinking about that, praying for that. And then, of course, you draw the dichotomy and say, look, over here, here's somebody that could be equally blessed, has the same potential, could do all of this, but their mouth is filled with complaint. They're a victim of everything. They have no vision for anything, and they're a victim of everything. What do they see? What are they looking at? Because my children are raised to understand and acknowledge and submit to a mantle, and out of that mantle is their door of favor. They're blessed because they're my kids. Well, you gotta speak that over your life. You gotta speak that over your these doors will be open. This this thing will happen. You see what I'm saying? And so you just have to walk in that kind of dimension and uh and it's called dominion. And people, you know, there are all kinds of people that believe things differently and don't believe in it. Uh I don't but they're the same kind of people that have no vision for life and no way to exercise any type of authority in their life. They're they're they're like they're like their their whole life is dangling on a string and it's blown about by every wind. Just whatever wherever the wind's blowing is they're getting blown that way. And it's because they have no anchor point in the dominion and power of God's word. And so when you wake up and you're enthused about life, I'm so excited of this past weekend. There was a public acknowledgement that we must rededicate this nation back to God. And most people are focused on the look and the name and the number and uh you you missed it. The word rededicate means that there was a former dedication.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And so we're bringing something back to God and acknowledging this belonged to you, not to Allah, not to Buddha, not to Krishna, right? Yeah, this belonged to Almighty God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And boy, I'm telling you, there's something that releases in the heavens, and there's a there's a proprietary power that is given to the children of that covenant, and we need to step into it. This is our moment. Come on. This is our moment. Early voting has begun this week, right? We need to go down there to that ballot box and look in that ballot box and say, What is your will, Lord? And we need to tell these politicians, I don't care if they're red or blue, we need to tell them. We need to judge them by the standard of the word. You're not doing what you said, you're out of job. That's what I that's what I'm proclaiming over John Corny right now. John, pack your bags, you're leaving Washington. 42 years. We're going, we're gonna send you home. You're retiring.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I even challenge the Flashpoint Army to go out into the parking lines and pray in the parking lots.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. And we, but our people have to get engaged with that kind of dominion. We're not to be timid and set on our heels. We're to stand up in the as the ambassadorial core of God's kingdom. And we're here to represent you, Lord. That means with integrity, that means with truth, that means with love, that means with kindness, but there should be a resolute steel in our conviction that we're not bending. We don't bend with the wind. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does.

SPEAKER_01

You know, I uh you know, you had mentioned the you know, you weren't here last week, and we were it was just the two of us.

SPEAKER_03

Just the two of us.

SPEAKER_01

And uh I I believe the the Courageous Faith podcast went up first, and then your the flashpoint episode you were on came up on Thursday or Friday.

SPEAKER_02

No, it was Wednesday night.

SPEAKER_01

Wednesday night? Was it the same night? Okay, but you had recorded it earlier than we had recorded ours, right? And you didn't send it to us before and you didn't we didn't know anything about it. No, the week before. Yeah, we didn't do nothing about it. And I found it very interesting that they were mirror images of each other, really, and that we were talking about pretty much the same things, right? We were, I mean, in different yeah, in different vocabulary, you know, yeah. Uh you know, ours is maybe a little more elementary. Uh but uh I just found it very interesting that before we even had the information, yeah, you guys were talking about things that we were talking about from a prophetic perspective.

SPEAKER_02

Um and well, you know, when they had booked me to come up there and sh and shoot that, they sent me some bullet points. Hey, we'd like to talk about this, we'd like to talk about this. And it was several weeks ago. So it was things about uh the disclosures and you know, this kind of thing. And they really wanted me to come and speak uninterrupted, you know, not not the regular show, but uh a a special setting. And they wanted me to speak uninterrupted about the lens of scripture, how we work the kingdom of God into culture. And so I I kind of had a mind, you know, uh prepared for I was in that frame of mind of okay, what's happening in the news and how we're gonna articulate it? What what are they gonna ask me? Because I had no, there was no nothing. No, they don't send you notes, you're not just show up. And there's nothing in front of you. There was no iPad around. No, I had my la my phone was sitting up under my leg, and I was sitting there. Uh, I did learn that I need to get longer socks or but I look like an old man. But anyway, I sat up there about 10 minutes before uh I was in there. Um, you know, they were prepping me and getting me ready, and they said, Oh, by the way, uh, you know, with this this big ruckus over aliens and everything, we just changed our mind. We're throwing all that out, we're gonna talk about something else. So I said that to say I I didn't even know what we were talking about. Right. And so the the strength and dexterity and the level of that anointing in this house is so strong that it carries you, whether you're in Fort Worth filming or you're in Houston filming. It's the same sound. See what I'm saying? And if a lot of people don't understand that and they won't submit to it, and they'll try to think out of their own mind. And so when you when you do that, you break. So I've I've taught you guys all of your life that the anointing is like a river. Yeah. Right? And preachers have the most difficult time picturing this and learning this. But the anointing is flowing like a river and it's following if you picture uh if you measure electricity and you want to see a pictograph of it, it you use a what they call the instrument, it's called an oscilloscope, and it shows you a bandwidth. So a 60 hertz cycle. It it has a certain, it's like a heartbeat, it has a certain rhythm. And you know that that is a certain amperage, that is a certain voltage, it represents power. Well, the the spirit is the same way. So if you picture it like a river, it's flowing in in the sink of patient. So every time, every service we have in this building, we're praying, show us the harmony of your spirit for this moment. Because every week is different. You can't sing the same song and hit the same place, right? Yeah, right. And so what you want to do is you want to get in that river of that of the spirit, you want to get in that anointing, and instead of trying to cross over, you want to get in it and ride it and flow with it. And so, what I've taught these my kids all of their life is you're not a successful uh navigator of the spirit if you if you go through it and get on the other side of it. That's when you run out of steam and you've you've run through the anointing. You want to get in it and write it. And that's what we do in Emmaus. We lead me, Lord, and I'll follow. Right? Lead us. Give us the words, show us where you're and that's the kind of template that that we were using last week. Simultaneously, Fort Worth and in here. Well, it wouldn't have been different days, but right my point is that's how strong and dramatic and clear you can see the work of the spirit. That makes sense, it does.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and I think that's also why the Bible in First Peter talks about how be prepared to give an answer. That's right. So your part can give at any point in time. And so that's that instant in season and out all the time you are ready to show yourself approved. So there's that dominion you talk about, there's a different level of boldness you can go in when you have that hidden in your that word hidden inside of your heart. And so I think that for a lot of people, they don't have the ability to do that, and they struggle with some of the things you were talking about as far as they're living life and they're struggling all the time. Yeah, because they're unable to surrender, they aren't able to live with that joy and that peace, because they don't have they're not rooted in the word of God. They're they're not they're not living their life surrendered fully and wholly unto God, they're not making connections with other believers, they're not living life together with a brother to be sharpened and to be struck um uh challenged, what have you. And so, you know, if we're gonna walk throughout this dominion, if we're gonna be able to have confidence. Going into the ballot booth, we gotta know what this guy represent. What is this person, what are their belief systems, what do they say that they're gonna do?

SPEAKER_02

That's right.

SPEAKER_01

Not not worried about the color that's on the ballot, but rather what are their beliefs, and not just what do they say they're gonna do, what have they done already?

SPEAKER_02

That's right, right?

SPEAKER_01

So what where have they where have they traversed in their life?

SPEAKER_02

And what do they even want them telling me things I want to hear?

SPEAKER_01

No, I want to know what have you done.

SPEAKER_02

That's right.

SPEAKER_01

What have you done with it, really? And what are the things you said you were gonna do, and how have you responded in that?

SPEAKER_03

That's right. And stop. I need another resume. Yeah, that's what you're saying. I need that clear resume.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. I mean, we are the this government was supposed to be for the people, but of the people, by the people. So we're supposed to be making choices and decisions.

SPEAKER_02

And what I'm excited about in this season is we're showing them. Because I'm telling you, even people, even conservative people, you know what I mean? Like they're very Christocentric. They're saying we're done. We are done with politics. We're gonna vote our righteousness, we're gonna vote our convictions. And and I'm telling you, man, they're they're primary people that thought they would never be out of office. And that's a good thing. You know, I think we need to clean the house. And I'm gonna start here in precinct four with uh with the constable. I want I wanna, if I have to run and take the job myself, I'm I'm gonna get him out of office. He's done. Uh, because he's treating people like he's it's a miscarriage of justice. You don't use the law to destroy people, you use the law to correct people and punish people, but you don't destroy their life, right? And so there's there's too many people that are feeling feeling hopeless. These little girls getting, you know, they shouldn't be drinking. Of course not. We believe God to deliver them from drinking. But if you get pulled over and you have alcohol in your breath, and you know, you you got a little secretary job, you've got a baby at home, you're doing the best you can, and you're stressed out, and you make a mistake, you should not be destroyed. Right? Yeah. And now you can't even be hired by anybody because they plastered you all over social media.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Right? Uh these these young men, they're profiling because they're of a certain ethnicity, ethnicity, or they dress a certain way. You know, they've they're automatically considered a thug and on a watch list. No, no, no, no. Uh-uh. No, it's innocent. Those young men, those that's exactly right. Habeas Corp. You need to teach those young men how to dress, not how to get prepared for the penitentiary.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because you're feeding a machine. So there's a lot of injustice we need to go right to the root of and call it what it is. And I don't care who backs it. You know what I mean? So we need to put the word out to the to the Republican Party and the Democratic Party, the church has awakened and we are your worst nightmare. You will change or we will change you. Come on. Is that too strong? No. That's life. That's the way it is. That's what happens when you're 66 and still in front of a microphone. I like it. I like it too. Uh I'm we're we're done. We're done with you telling us one thing during an election cycle, and as soon as you get in office, you're doing something else. We're not gonna have it. We're not gonna have it. We're gonna call you a liar. Yeah, we're gonna call you a hypocrite, we're gonna call you a cheat, we're gonna call you what you are and demand that you answer for your behavior. And so uh, I think to do that, you have to be standing in a place where you're submitted to the word. Right? And uh, and so that's what's exciting to me about the church finding her voice. Uh, we're gonna say things the wrong way. Yes, we're going to do that. We're gonna have to repent of that. But we need to not fear being offensive. What we need to fear is being quiet. Silent. Our silence cannot be um, our silence cannot cannot allow us to to let good to let good die and evil men to reign. You know what I mean? Yeah, sir.

SPEAKER_01

So I would I would kind of second that. You had mentioned earlier, you know, you were when Pastor started speaking, you were a little nervous. Yeah, I was because you had some guests in the room, right? But I I think that's a good reason to get nervous. It is, yeah. No, I'm always nervous whenever he gets on the microphone, just so you know. Uh, but I think that that boldness and that the ability to trust God that he ordains people's steps, right? And if he brings them to a place, there's all these like these these puzzle pieces, I feel like, that come together. And there's so many, so many intricate things that have to happen for something like say Sunday to happen. You know, you gotta they've gotta submit to the invite. Pastors gotta submit to the Holy Spirit to preach what God wants them to preach and and minister that word. Well, then they also have to submit to whatever that word is and they have to guard their heart and their spirit. So there's all these different elements that you have nothing to do with. Yep. So no matter what, as long as you're doing and submitting to the will of God, you just let God take care of the rest. And it may not be that one Sunday, it may be 18 months later.

SPEAKER_02

Well, you know, the beautiful thing about and Sunday, we did something that was extraordinarily different than normal, you know, uh, and I I understand that. But you have to do those things. Um but I basically I was preaching about um when a nation kneels again and um looking at the day that we were occupying when we were going to rededicate this nation to God and joining in with millions of people to pray for America, you know, and acknowledge Lord, we need you. Second Chronicles 7:14. If my people humble themselves and pray and seek my face, then I will hear from heaven and heal their land. You know, we've got this word given to us, and so we were we were involved in that. We wanted to be a part of that. Uh we Saturday we we were invested in a ministry that was saving children and had a big rescue going on in Mexico. Uh Friday we were invested in a mission that is in Iraq working underground, and 5,000 people received the baptism of the Holy Ghost last week uh that they know of. So we're doing these things worldwide, but we've got to bring it home and say, Lord, forgive us of our we have been such a blessed nation. Yeah, and we have forfeited our the airship of what you've given us because we've not recognized the King of Glory. And so, yeah, I wanted to be a part of that and I wanted to flow in that, but I brought all that up to say, even in that message, which was um very particular, very very pointed, there's people getting baptized. Yeah. Because it always ultimately comes back to the soul of a man or a woman and the goal of winning people to God.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yeah. One of my buddies, he was against church. Yeah. Who came.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then by the end of the day, he was like, I'm coming back. I like this man. He knows what he's talking about. The way he's talking, he's speaking like he with confidence. And that's what I was, that's what I see.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I walk, I know you have dominion. I seen, I told him, I was like, I've been coming here for so long. He hasn't had a step, he hasn't fumbled, he hasn't stuttered, nothing. It's been constant this entire time. That's why I'm here. That's why I keep coming here. That's why I serve here. God has me here.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's just like I, you know, I I see all these people on social media, and I mean, I'm I'm dealing with uh very large organizations that are constantly getting attacked over finances. You know, there's a there's this great movement going on that people think they ought to defund Christianity. It's okay to give your money to the bar down the street, to a strip joint, to anything else, Red Cross, whatever you want to do, but we should defund Christianity. And they're they're really working um in syncopation with the very um throne room of the Antichrist. So uh but I be that as it may, the thing that I can always almost relish in is the fact that all of our financial stuff is open, transparent. You can see what you gave yesterday. You know what I mean? You can get up in your own account, see how it was put in, and all that stuff. And then we're audited every month. We have a we have a complete, all of our books are kept by a CPA firm. And I don't have anything to do with it. So if people say, I gave you $20 last week and you didn't say anything because I don't know it. I don't keep that stuff in my spirit. I want to go up and I want every Sunday, you'll ask him if you notice I can count on one hand the times in my 44 years of ministry plus that I preached with my wallet in my back pocket. I won't even approach a pulpit. If I can help it, I will not, you know, sometimes at funerals and stuff, I can't help it. But I won't approach a pulpit with my pocket my pocket weighted by my own wallet because I don't want any reminder of what I'm carrying in my pocket. I don't want it to be tied to any monetary thing. I want to be able to say exactly what the Lord gave me, and I don't want in my spirit, I don't want to think about they gave this, they didn't give this, they didn't give it. I want to say exactly what thus saith the Lord and let the chips fall where they may. And that's the way I've tried to govern my life. And to do that, you have to be corrected first. So I don't know if that helps anybody or not, but that's just that's kind of the mentality behind the deal. And and saying, Okay, God, you're you're leading us and you're guiding us, and I'm trusting an administrative team to help me and tell me everything's okay, we're all everything, you know, and then they tell me when it's not. But I don't unless the Lord speaks to me. You know, if I'm if he awakens me to the reality somebody's in trouble and I check on them, you know, then I'm gonna see about them and I'm gonna I'm gonna go get we've got a team of people that goes and brings them food because obviously if they stop paying their tithes and they they're that they don't have any money and people they're going broke and hadn't been paid, we want to make sure they have something to eat. So we we take care of that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, I think going back to you had mentioned line upon line, precept upon precept, uh this whole like giving and the attack on the financial portion of the church has been it's been going on for it's not a new thing necessarily.

SPEAKER_02

2020, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Right. But uh it does seem to be amplifying significantly. And I think always transparency is key with with with pretty much everything. But the Bible does say don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing to an extent. And I I don't it's not like be secretive or anything like that, but you know, God's working all the time. And you know, some people haven't earned, I think, sometimes the the right to know certain things. And what I mean by that is not that you know you're special, so you get to know the inner workings. But what I mean by that is simply this is that I don't think people realize to the extent the sacrifices that most pastors make for their church. No, they don't, you know, and when I say for their church, for the church they're serving, the the ministry God has given them.

SPEAKER_02

They judge all of ministry on the the few flamboyant characters they see that are writing private jets. You know what's so I have to laugh. What is so hilarious about that is most of these guys that are riding private jets don't even own the jets.

SPEAKER_01

They are in like some kind of leasing program where they share it with other people.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's a fractional ownership or it's a lease, you know. And I get I get opportunities to do that all the time, you know. I do have a friend of mine that is very careful, and he travels by private jet, but he will never allow a photo of him near an airplane or anything like that. Well, it this kind of conversation is very apropos because it brings in the dynamic of reality, like we're doing a deal with Epic Dream Twirl, which is phenomenal. And I encourage everybody to get in it. But I would I bought some tickets just to support it. And then you think about okay, what happens if that law firm in New York draws my name? I'm gonna end up with a Lamborghini. That's right.

SPEAKER_01

I'm excited about it.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna be driving it up. Think about it immediately what happens.

SPEAKER_01

You have a Lamborghini.

SPEAKER_02

I have a Lamborghini. Yep. I drive it up here. He's going to the World Cup. I get a picture taken with a Lamborghini, right? And the World Cup. But nobody knows the backstory. They don't know that I bought it for 50 bucks.

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Right.

SPEAKER_02

You know? They just see the they just see the headline and then they immediately make a judgment about the entire global concept of ministry. Yeah. So as a steward, if I win that car, what should be my response? This is a great conversation. You give it to me. I'll take care of it for you.

SPEAKER_01

That's right. You need to bless me with it. No, you just serve the kingdom. I'll give people rides.

SPEAKER_02

No, what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to put you in a box and make you aware of the reality that even in our blessings, people want to judge. We have to submit that to what is best for the kingdom. Right. Right. Well, I don't have license, in other words, I don't have license and the freedom to do what others might do. Because the call on me is such that the holiness required out of me demands sacrifice. So, what do I do with the yellow Lamborghini?

SPEAKER_01

Do you want an answer? Or a rhetorical question, everybody. What I think you should do with the Lamborghini when you win it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'm pretty sure I would need to talk to the tax man because I'm sure there's gonna be some very hefty tax repercussions on it, correct? We're gonna get a 1099 ADC for that. That's right. So there's gonna be some sort of cost. So I'm assuming there's probably also some sort of deal in there where they don't give you you could maybe in lieu take a cash payment or something for those. So yeah, I really hope so. Because if not, the first thing you need to do is sell it and get rid of it so that you can actually afford something. Just do one sermon in it. You gotta at least drive it around in a circle, right? But I would, if it were me, right, and I was doing it, the first thing I would do, and I know you, is that that would not be a car you would be driving around. The first thing you would do is you would find a way to invest that back into the work of God, just knowing you. So whether you sold it, whether you tried to auction it off, or there'd be some way where it would be how can we draw people into the kingdom of God and how can we bless the kingdom of God with this? This wouldn't be something you would use personally for yourself.

SPEAKER_02

But my point, yeah, that's great. And I and I I want to flesh this out because this is I think this is a good conversation to have just for people to understand. So I've I'm thinking on multiple multi-levels. Uh if I'm if I'm seen in town driving a Lamborghini, which I have every right to drive a Lamborghini. Sure. If I'm if I've been blessed, yeah, if I've been successful according to the world standard, I should be able to drive a Lamborghini just like any lawyer or any doctor. Right. Right? Just on a straight across judgment. You make this much money, you are blessed in these ways, and you qualify, you can do this. Right? That should be equal for everybody. But it's not in the ministry. It's not, no. No. So my point to you is that because of our love for God and His kingdom, even though Paul says, even though it's permissible for me to do this, I do not do this because I don't want my freedoms or my liberty to become a stumbling block to the least of these. Yeah. So I have to take that Lamborghini and I have to judge it through the lens of a brand new believer or someone who may be standing in the shadows trying to judge whether the church is authentic and real or if it's just one of these commercial vending machines. Right? And so I I think that brings a sobriety to the way we live. You know, I don't have I have a Rolex watch, I have a Brightling watch, both of them given to me by my father. They're hanging on my wall with with his picture, it's under him. It's it's an honor, a rarium to him. But I just don't feel now some people don't have a problem with this. Other other guys evidently don't have a problem. But I just don't feel like it's appropriate for me to be flaunting you know, uh an expensive watch when we have people we cannot help. I don't I don't know how to I don't know how you balance that. Y'all, I'm I'm listening.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I don't know how you would balance it necessarily.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I do think that Do you do you think you understand what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I I wouldn't be able to either, right? But and I think that's been the biggest challenge with these types of situations is that it does appear that sometimes a very small group of people, it's not a lot, you mentioned it earlier, that they don't know how they don't, they're not worried about it. They're not worried about that unbeliever or that other person, and they just they will, I guess quote unquote, flaunt it.

SPEAKER_02

But like well, you're saying something that's very important. They don't worry about it. Yeah. Now, the flip side of that is so you have that pressure, then you have a group of people over here that they give begrudgingly, and they're looking for the first sign reason, right? So that they can be dismissed from their giving and and say, I told you so. Are they going to heaven?

SPEAKER_01

That's a great question. That's a great question. Because I mean that goes back to the heart once again.

SPEAKER_02

The Lordship.

SPEAKER_01

That's right. Who's in charge?

SPEAKER_02

Are they saved?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So they will know that you're my disciples by your love one and by the fruits that you possess. So do you have a are you a cheerful giver? It's a tremendous this it's a theater of uh provocation and thinking, you know what I mean? It's like uh there's some blessings that God can bless you with, and you can keep them and you can love them, and they're they're they're a blessing. And then there are other blessings that it would be perfectly fine for James to have, but I can't. And I have to be okay with that. I have to understand the reasons why. And I have to be uh uh I had I was in a place several years ago uh that uh I wouldn't recommend other people going to, but I I went up. I was invited to speak there. And uh so I was on the dais and there were several people there that were speaking uh through the week. It was a big conference. And I had a couple of those uh guys come up and they took my lapel of my suit and felt the linen, you know, and and and they said, Oh, well, you know, that that is not the thread count that I wear. And they were letting me know that they wore finer clothes. And I just laughed. Laughed right in their face. And they said, What do you what do you what do you find funny? And I said, I've already been through all of your thread counts. And I found out that I could preach just as anointed in Wrangler jeans as I can in a $5,000 suit. Back back in the day, would it would be like $10,000 today? And I said, I don't need an Oxford suit to tell anybody who I am. I need the Holy Ghost. They walked on over and got them some punch and left to talk to somebody. You see what I'm saying? Yes. And I'm uh I I don't want to what do the kids call it, shading, casting shade. I don't want to do all that. But we have to be authentic enough and transparent enough to say these are these are very much things that are going on in our culture, and these are things that people are using to denigrate the church. And so what we need to do is come out with a flamboyant praise and thanksgiving for the authentic Christ that we serve. And the only way to do that is to have testimonies like we're talking about.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Well, we had a conversation a while back about. Um, that's a long time ago, but I discussion probably isn't even the world, it was more like a disagreement to an extent. And we're just talking about you use the scriptural, you know, don't let your good be evil spoken of, right? And uh, you know, just going through the the dichotomy of having a heart that is willing to give, having a heart that is not easily offended, yeah, having a heart that is surrendered to God, but then also that prefers your brother.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And you're you're not you're you're not you're aware of what something may cause someone else to stumble. You're aware of what what might trip someone up because they don't have the maturity yet for it.

SPEAKER_02

We we teach that in our discipleship track.

SPEAKER_01

Right. We do. And so, you know, I mean, it's these are all this is a tough question, right? And everybody's gonna handle it different, and everybody, you know, may not understand why you would do that.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Why, why it's something that you focus on. But that also I think goes back to the level of understanding and maturity that the word of God brings and the Holy Spirit Spirit will convict you of if you are submitted to it. And it may be something as simple as there may be 10 people or 100 people that are not going to be bothered by it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That it's not going to be an issue for them. But there may be five people that are on the edge of having a relationship with God that they don't take that step or they don't take that leap because of that. And so, what's more important, the Lamborghini or those five souls?

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There, there you go.

SPEAKER_01

Right. And so, you know, I think we talk about it in in our connect groups, we talk about it in uh, you know, in our discipleship as well, that it's not about winning the argument, rather winning the person. Yes, and so the soul is the most important thing.

SPEAKER_02

The soul is the most important thing, right? So, whatever we do, we have to do it for the souls to be one. You know? And uh and that's how you crucify sacred cows. You don't have sacred cows because you'll crucify anything that stands in the way of someone's salvation. And people making a sacred cow. I've been in buildings where the pastor was held hostage because he couldn't move the piano three inches over the purpose. You know, the brother Larry said that there in 1932. And that's that's the only place it can sit, and it's special and it's anointed. I was I was in a church one time, I preached in a church that just had a split because the pastor, who was a new pastor, who was there a couple years, but he didn't realize that the brass handrail that was installed in 1942 at the dawn of World War II by Brother Hinkle's family was a was a special memorial to that family. And he had the thing replaced with, you know, some more modern hardware. And 35 or 40 people left that were akin to Brother Hinkle's family, the family tree. Because he didn't get permission from him to touch it. You see what I'm saying? That's how crazy stuff gets formed and fashioned in our mind about what's holy, what's sacred, what's special, what you can do, what you can't. And you you have to break all of those ceilings. You have to you have to be free to move with God. But at the same time, you have to have such self-governance that you too are equalized and you have an equilibrium in the reality. I'm not a free man. I'm bought with a price. Right. I'm under the Lordship and the commission of Jesus Christ. I am in his army and I'm not my own. Right. That makes sense, yeah. So that's how you bring equilibrium to that to that challenge. I'm not my own. Lord, you handle it. I'm yours. Today. You know, I'm blue. I'm feeling down. Yesterday I was high. Today I'm low. Lift me. Let me climb higher today. Can you talk to me like that?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, sir. Well, on that note, we are running low on time, Pastor. Okay, brother. Hate to cut you off. But May 29th. Doors open.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. What are we gonna do? We're gonna do some big stuff.

SPEAKER_03

The hundredth episode of the Courageous Faith Podcast. Friday night. Friday night will be live.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. And we're gonna have a special cake, some pageantry afterwards, or what?

SPEAKER_01

Are you looking at me?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He's in charge. I'm just a guest. Oh my goodness. I submit to James. I'm like, I've just been a guest. I've been, and then I want to say thank y'all for letting me be a part of the last like five to ten episodes.

SPEAKER_02

So thank you so much. He's gonna keep the Lamborghini.

SPEAKER_01

I'll paint it a different color.

SPEAKER_02

No, sir. That's part of the that's part of the winning. It's either gonna be live green or bright yellow.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that we got May 29th, we have the live episode. Yes. If you're tuning in, you gotta tune in live. Yeah, you gotta see it live. Yeah, it's gonna be great to go over all. We have some limited spots, right? Where they can be a live audience.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and we want to have we want everybody connect with Substack too and help push that. That's really getting some traction, and we need people to share it. And you've been putting out more. I'm trying to.

SPEAKER_01

I think you've got I feel like it's it's uh every day I get a new email. Yeah, I was like a new notification going up.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, it's wearing me out, but I'm trying. But it's it's great, it's relevant, and then it's also to me, it's I get a new word of the day. I think this should be a new segment. I was thinking of a new segment for the Courageous Faith Podcast after the 100th episode word of the day, word of the word of the day from from you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, from all of us. I like that. Yeah, because sometimes we have to Google it and like, was that a real word? Oh, you mean a literal word? Yeah, I thought you meant a scripture.

SPEAKER_01

No, that's what he meant too. I didn't know he was actually talking about a word.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Well, Bill O'Reilly used to do that. Really? Yeah, he used to do that. He would have a word of a day years ago. I remember because he would throw out some words, and people would uh be bombastic about it and say, no, that's not, and he would come back and define it. Last week, Larry from Omaha said that that word is not true. Here it is, and he showed the definition of it. That's awesome. Yeah, that's what we got to do.

SPEAKER_03

But also like and subscribe, comment on every all the what we got going on that helps us beat the algorithm. Um go to cham.org. James, you got anything?

SPEAKER_01

No, just make sure you're a part, make sure you're sharing, make sure you are on Pastor Substack. Um, and I would I would just encourage you, you know, as we're talking to this thing, every week, um, you know, we dive deeper into the word, we connect it with uh whatever's going on in the world. Um, and I pray it's effectual for you. But even more so than that, I would hope that you would learn that uh, you know, it's not just one thing. The Bible is such a beautiful tapestry, um, and God is trying to reveal things to us regularly. And so it is line upon line and precept upon precept, it all connects to it to together. Um, and it's meant to lift us up, it's meant to build us up, it's meant to sharpen us, um, it's meant to connect us. So if you're not connected at all, if you are, you know, we we're so thankful for everyone that watches and that uh those that comment. Um, but you've got to find that way to connect. If you're here in the Houston area, we would definitely invite you to come join us at the Church of Champions. We are a community that loves people. Um, back to the passion and the purpose of Jesus Christ. Um, and so we need that that sharpening of one another. We need you need to get into a group, you need to get around some other people that you can discuss the word with and challenge yourself, challenge your opinions, chance, challenge your mind so that you can grow closer to what God wants you to be.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and I would like to say too, before we leave, is everybody please support Epic Dreams World. And it the logo is right there. And if you can uh help us go there, purchase a ticket if you can. If you can't, share it with as many business people as you know. Everybody. And and we have a lot of advertising going on in Spanish. So a lot of uh Spanish speaking cultures are gonna be here for the they're they're all involved in the soccer, football, and they want to be a part of that. Um, and and so it's a big deal. So we need to get as many business owners, uh lawyers, doctors, mechanics, anybody that wants to uh to get involved. And so sh share it on your Facebook page, share it on your IG page, share it on your uh TikTok, whatever it is, and help us put out the word and get it. I'm I'm believing this is this is all being done as a fundraiser. And I'm believing God to use it to help us pay this place, this whole campus off. And if we can do that, it's over. We're we're we're running. We've got so many things. And I want to thank too, Doug for mowing part of our campus with a big tractor. Uh we have several acres. Yes, Doug did that, and I want to thank him. And somebody came out here and and uh put down some asphalt. I want to thank them for that. I don't even know who did it, but I'm I'm so grateful and uh I'm just humbled by their love for God.

SPEAKER_01

Well, once again, we thank you all for coming. Why don't we pray it out, Lord God? We thank you for this day. We give you honor and glory, Lord. I thank you for everyone that hears uh this podcast, Father, and I pray that you would root in their heart, Lord Jesus, a desire to serve you with everything that they have, Father, to be bold, to walk in dominion, Father, to not be afraid, Lord God, to vote the scripture, Lord God, to not be afraid to share, Lord Jesus, your word. Lord God, we lift you up today and we thank you for this opportunity once again. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.