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TPT Ep8- 1 Corinthians 1:10 True Unity
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In this episode, Travis and Rick cover true biblical unity, and how we get there:
1 We speak the same thing by using the same Bible.
2 We have the same mind and judgement by rightfully dividing the King James Bible.
3 We meet at the Bible, let it be our first place we go for truth, and our final authority.
Not only that, but also being saved and having the same Spirit living within us.
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SPEAKER_08Thank you again, guys, for joining us today on the uh Plain Truth Podcast. I'm Brother Travis, and this is Brother Rick again, and uh it's been a while since we've been with you guys, but we want to jump right back into the word today in 1 Corinthians chapter number one. Uh last time we went over how God is faithful. This time we're gonna be getting into verse 10 and talking about real biblical unity and the unity God desires. And the reason we say God desires is because the Holy Ghost is the one that inspired Paul to write 1 Corinthians, and that's why we have it in the Word of God, and obviously, so we're gonna be talking about that as well today, the Word of God and how we have to have something to unify us. Obviously, the Holy Ghost is the one that lives in each and every believer that truly that unifies us. Right. What unifies us is that we've believed on the Lord Jesus Christ to save us, and uh we believe you know his doctrine, we believe the commandments of the Bible, you know. Um, but also we have to have something that is, I guess, our standard, our final authority.
SPEAKER_02Final authority, that's it.
SPEAKER_08We have to have the final authority, we have to have something, a baseline truth. I've talked to someone about this before, and they said, you know, as long as you find a church that fits what you believe, and kind of like going along with like everyone can believe whatever, kind of like the truth thing, everyone's got their own truth. Right. But the problem with that is yeah, relativity. But the problem with that is when we come together and we we're trying to make decisions or we're trying to say, you know, trying to know more about Jesus. Where do you find Jesus at? Where you know, what where did God, I mean, yeah, he spoke, and Peter says he spoke audibly in those days, but where do we find today, you know, information or about Jesus Christ, about doctrine, about what what the church should do, we find it in the Word of God. Right. And that's that's how we've the Word of God is where we heard the gospel from, where we get the gospel from. Uh if we were waiting on everyone to get a quote unquote revelation that people get today, still they say, Yeah. If we were waiting on that, you know, like imagine having no Bible, having no real central thing we can put our faith in, or you know, like go to for uh information, stuff like that, or for doctrine, and we were just waiting on somebody else to tell us what it is, we'd be the Catholic Church. We wouldn't be the hood, we wouldn't be like individual believers, like you know, we wouldn't have individual liberty, wouldn't have none of that. We'd have to wait for someone else to tell us, but God's given us the full Bible.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_08And so we want to get into that a little bit um here today. But in verse 10 is where I'm gonna be reading first Corinthians 1, verse 10. Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. For hath it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you. Now this I say that every one of you saith, I am of Paul, and I am of Apollos, and I am of Cephas, or I have Cephas, and I of Christ. Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you, or were you baptized in the name of Paul? So that's what's going on in this church. They're dealing with division, and obviously it's division. People are some people are saying, I'm I'm of Apollos, you know, I'm a Paul of Cephas, I'm of Christ. And the one that was saying, I'm of Christ is wrong too, because he should, you know, he's got guys, he should be the one saying, We're all of Christ. The reason we're here is because of Jesus Christ. Yeah. The reason there's the church is because of Jesus Christ. Amen. But uh Paul, he's telling them that's what perfect unity is, is what he says in verse 10, that you speak the same thing, there be no divisions among you, no division, and that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. How can we have the same mind, the same judgment, if we don't have the mind of Christ, which we have? Amen. Right. Which Paul talks about. Which is found in this book. Yeah, which Paul talks about in chapter two. He said, we have the mind of Christ, right? And I know that you know you you can look at that in a spiritual way, but I'm talking about with our Bible, how can we all have unity and have the same judgment and all those things? Because as men, you can see politically, religiously, men have different thoughts. Man, I mean, we all have, you know, absolutely. Lost men all have the same kind of you know, mindset and thought process, it just sounds different, but you know, some people think this, some people think this. Well, what's the truth? We can find that in the in the King James Bible, I believe. And that's something you have to say too. Saying I go to a Bible-believing church is kind of like a broad statement, like saying I'm a Christian, you know, okay, I go to a King James Bible-believing church. And we it's not that we're like all about, you know, like I guess saying cliche things, it's that we want people to know this is the Bible we absolutely have put our stock in. Yeah. Because, and I've I've heard it said this way too. It's like, if you don't believe it's a perfect Bible, and if you don't believe you can trust, you know, everything in it, then you can't really trust anything in it, can you?
SPEAKER_02Right. Well, and here's the thing, I've uh you know, we talk about cliche things, but I've never heard anybody say Bibles believer. Yeah, you know, we're a Bibles believing church, yeah. Uh, but yet there are some, you know, and and you get these these preachers standing in pulpits saying the the Bible is God's word. Well, which Bible? Yeah. You know, you you've got like I forget now, 900 versions right now, something like that, 900 different versions on the market, which is like crazy. And and here's the problem. We say the Bible should be our final authority in all matters of faith and practice. In other words, in in everything we believe and everything we do. But if you've got 17 Bibles on the table, which is a very minor selection of all that's available, and you like John 3.16 out of this one, and and Matthew 8.11 out of that one, and and Acts 8.37 out of this other one over here, now you no longer have a final authority. You are your final authority now.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And and our final authority is pathetic and useless, and God's is what we need.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And and like we talked about before we got started. If if I I have more respect for a guy that says the NIV is the perfect Bible without error and nothing else is, than somebody who stands up there with 18 different versions and tries to tell you, this is what I like out of this one, this is what I like out of that one, this is what I I I you put too many eyes in that stuff and you're in trouble.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, and you've said it before, it causes confusion. Like you've said, you went to when you've done these um going around teaching the King James, you've had certain people stand on one side of the church with all these different Bibles, and then certain people stand on this side of the church with nothing King James Bibles. Right. And that over there sounds like craziness just straight up. Yeah, chickens clung and all that. But then over here with the King James, it's like, you know, it's good to hear, and like it's truly how it is. But we also know that the fact that we have one true standard is something that like when you see that, you know that's of God because that's how God is. That's kind of like one of his characteristics and everything. Right. He doesn't give us two ways to get to heaven. Nope. He gives us one way through Jesus Christ. And the fact that he shed his blood to make you justified and to give you his righteousness. He shed his blood for that so that you could have eternal life. And if you'll put your faith in him, you can be saved. That's the way God gave us. It's and like he's given us that one way right now in this dispensation, everything. He's given us one way to be saved.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_08And so that it's how God works. And like, you know, there's one truth. He doesn't give us like here's the truth, and here's another truth.
SPEAKER_01I have right here, somewhere really close. Right here, exactly. Thank you, Lord. Here's how we learn.
SPEAKER_02John uh, first John 2.27, but the anointing which you have received of him abideth in you. That's the Holy Ghost, and you need not that any man teach you, but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, you shall abide in him. Jesus said in John 6.63, it's the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, they are life. It's the words of Jesus Christ that we need. And and the problem is we're trying to learn it by man's wisdom.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, if if you need 87 versions to figure out what God said in 1 Corinthians chapter 1, verse 10, uh, somewhere God went wrong because he didn't give you what you needed in the first one. Yeah, you know, God is responsible to preserve his word. It's not our job, it's God's job. And and when he did that, he did that, I believe, with the King James Bible, because no one's ever found or approved an error in the King James Bible. Now, I'm not a very educated man, I'm not what you might consider a genius, uh, but I can take any version of the Bible you've got that's not the King James, and I can show you a proved error in your Bible.
SPEAKER_07Exactly.
SPEAKER_02And if I can do that, then you got a pitiful Bible.
SPEAKER_08And we're gonna get into that too in this episode, going over like a couple of a couple versions that people were, you know, predominantly using.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_08Um uh I want to say another verse that it's in Galatians where Paul says it, but it's it's not said this way throughout you know all the New Testament. It's said in many different ways, but one thing I like that Paul always goes back to is the scriptures.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_08And to people, you know, some people think that reading is boring, or they think reading the scriptures is not, you know, a spirit, some spiritual thing, but it's literally the word of God on earth that you can put your hands on and hold and you can take home and you can read in your house, but it's not chained to a pulpit anymore and stuff. You can, you know what I mean? Like you have full access to this word. But Paul always says, and this is what we should get to, this is the point we should get to as a church, as believers. He said, For what saith the scripture?
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_08Concerning salvation, I believe he was reading he was writing about, and I think Galatians 4. Concerning something as important as uh salvation, it might have been Romans 4, but uh it's something as important as salvation, Paul said, for what saith the scripture?
SPEAKER_02Well, uh the gospel is according to the scriptures.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, he said how Christ died according to the scriptures, yeah, rose again.
SPEAKER_02Let me just read it. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, and that he was buried, and then he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. If you got you got so many different Bibles out there that are the so-called Bibles, they call themselves the Scriptures, but they don't agree. See, the problem is they don't agree, and that's it's like John 3.16, and my wife will be happy that I brought this up because this is one of her pet beeves. Uh, John 3.16, for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. When you take out begotten and you make it God's one and only son, that's what the NIV does. That's what several of them do. Uh but you say God loved the world so much he gave his only son. Okay, well, if you read this book like a book and you start in the beginning, you don't get in past Genesis 6 till you find sons of God. You know, the sons of God came down to to see the daughters of men that they were beautiful and fair, and they took to themselves wives of all which they chose. That's angels cohabitating with men's wives, with women.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So they're sons of God. You read that, you come on down through, and you find that Israel is God's firstborn, the Bible says. And you keep you keep going and you run across sons of God over and over and over and over, and then you get to John 3, and God gave his one and only son. Well, which is it? Did he have sons or does he have a one son? Well, he has one only begotten son. Exactly. And the word begotten means born of a woman, just like you and I were born. Every other son of God, we're sons of God now, but we're sons of God by the new birth.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02See, we were not sons of God when we were born. We were sons of the devil. Uh, we were children of the devil when we were born. We were born bad, we were born wrong, that's why we needed to be born again. So just one single word. That the greatest thing you can think of, if you have a perfect Bible right here on the table in front of you, it's absolutely perfect. Uh say it's the NIV, say it's the New King James, say it's the New American Standard or the Revised Standard or the New World Translation or the Holman Christian Standard or any of these stupid things that take in all these Bibles these days. Say it's any of them, and it's a perfect Bible. Take one word and change it, it's no pop, it's not perfect anymore.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02See? One word takes perfect to imperfect. And if it's imperfect, it's not God's word. Exactly. God's word is perfect.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And because we serve a perfect Savior and a perfect God, the perfect Holy Ghost, we have a perfect Bible. And again, I have way more respect for somebody who says, Well, this is the perfect Bible and nothing else is, no matter what version they call it, you know. But if I can prove you're wrong, if I can prove your Bible's not perfect, would you change your mind? So many people, you you've the first thing people say when you say, Well, your Bible's got errors in it, well, you think I'm stupid. Yeah. No, that's not the thing. I have at my house, I have my own NIV that I thought was as good a Bible as anybody could ever own. Uh, as a matter of fact, my very first pastor bought it, gave over $100 for it, a nice NIV Bible, and gave it to me thinking he was giving me something that was good for me. But later on, I found out there's so much wrong with that crazy thing. 64,000 words. 64,000 words are taken out of the NIV. Uh, you know, that that should be in the text of the Bible.
SPEAKER_08And a lot of it's like Lord, hell.
SPEAKER_02Oh gosh, it's way more than that.
SPEAKER_08I know it's like I'm trying to think of the big ones. I know Lord is taken out a lot, Jesus, yeah, Jesus' name is Lord, hell is taken out, is it not?
SPEAKER_02That's out of the New King James.
SPEAKER_08Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they they removed that. Now, they do take that out a lot. Do you know what's funny to me? The the NIV had a an open sodomite as the head of the translating committee for the Old Testament. It had a a uh lesbian, was a stylist on the NIV committee who who made the thing supposedly more readable. She would take large uh uh parts of scripture that had been translated and go over it and change words from what they had, the translators had translated. She would change words that she didn't like in it to make it more readable. But it's funny to me that you have a a sodomite as the head of the Old Testament translating committee, and the word sodomite doesn't appear in the NIV anywhere.
SPEAKER_07No, they say temple prostitutes. But there was no temple whenever the word sodomite was originally.
SPEAKER_02Right. So you got all these problems, and and i it it's kind of crazy how you could imagine that. Let me let me let me look at this. I want to read something to you that is kind of shocking, and I hope it is anyway, to to everybody that's listening. You have 64,000 words removed from the NIV. Now, this is the first time I ever heard this that blew me out of the water, and I can't remember the pastor's name. Um, is a is a guy that I I was associated with at one point in time, and he's very good on the King James. Um but listen to this 64,000 words is equivalent to the following books of the Bible. Not not that they remove these books of the Bible, I'm not saying that, but 64,000 words are equivalent to these following books of the Bible: Obadiah, Jonah, Haggai, Romans, 1st and 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1st and 2 Thessalonians, 1st and 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon, Hebrews, James, 1st and 2 Peter, 1 2nd, 3 John, and Jude. That's about the equivalent of 64,000 words. But yet they say we don't change any of the major Bible doctrines. Well, I don't think that's possible. Uh in fact, I know it's not possible. When you take out 1 John 5, 7, uh, you've changed a major Bible doctrine because the Trinity out. You know, these three are one, you know, and and so you've got all this stuff going on, and the NIV is the easy one to pick on.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it's so super easy to pick on. You can just rip it to shreds, you can find so much problem in it. Uh, me and you discussed this is my personal testimony, what brought me to see the differences. Uh Isaiah 14, 12.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I didn't know that's just what you just did, but yeah, in Isaiah 14, 12, how thou how's thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning? And the NIV says, How you have fallen from heaven, oh morning star.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Revelation 22, 16, Jesus Christ said, I, Jesus, have sent mine angel to testify these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David and the bright morning star. So if you've got an NIV, you've got a Bible that says Jesus Christ fell from heaven in Isaiah 14, 12.
SPEAKER_06That's what it says, yeah.
SPEAKER_02And that is impossible to comprehend in your mind. But you take that and you go from a perspective of a bunch of people who believe that Jesus Christ and the devil were brothers, that doesn't, that's not a real hard stretch to figure out how that got there.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, and and then again, you got an open sodomite translating the Old Testament, and and you know, just lesbian in the front, yeah, you're running away with things.
SPEAKER_08And uh in Isaiah 14, 12, I believe it's the ESV that says it this way. And I was telling somebody downstairs, one of our youth, because he was at we were talking about um, you know, if you don't really know this stuff, like you can't really argue it with people, you know what I mean. But um this one for me, like we've talked about, like you said, this is for me, this is the it, like this is it. That's where I don't have to go and look at all these other things, which I have studied, like you said, I've studied the NIV and so. But that for me, that verse is so right in your face, you can't deny that. Right. Because in the ESV it says day star.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_08And then if you go to Second Peter 1, to the day star rise in your heart. So you're telling me that Satan's gonna rise in my heart after he fell, right? And like you're or you're saying Jesus fell and now he's gonna rise in my heart. Either way. You're saying that either way, and then and to be clear, Isaiah 14 is talking about someone that said, I will ascend above you know the stars of heaven, all those things. Yeah. What did Jesus do when he came to earth? Jesus was humble, he made himself of no reputation, right? Being found in the form of a servant. Yeah, he like completely abased himself, completely lowered himself as low as he can get, and did that for us. And then after that, God set him on the right hand, exalted him, gave him a name above. And that's how it works. God, when you abase yourself, then God, the Bible says, will exalt you in his own way, not exalting you like Jesus, but he will exalt you in his own way. But the devil is trying to do it himself, just like everybody else is always, I want to be, you know, top of the world. I want to be like that's a say it's satanic saying, you know, I want to be above everybody. That's they say to an easy.
SPEAKER_02Well, see, and here's another thing, I want to get this in because this really meant a lot to me when it happened. God showed me something that I'd never ever thought of at the time, and and I debated with the Hebrew and Greek professor from a local Bible college here, uh, and I didn't know that's what I was doing. I was I had a trap set for me because this guy was going to show me how dumb I was and didn't know my Bible. And we talked about this verse in Isaiah 14, 12. And the guy he had every kind of question you can think of, and I just answered every question he had with no problems. God gave me the right thought train, you know, gave me everything I needed. Every time I needed something, the word came back to me, just like God'll do. And and so I debated this guy and I beat him up real bad. And and and I'm believe me, I'm not a I'm not a Hebrew Greek professor. I don't know the I I barely speak English halfway decent, you know. But this guy. I said, let me ask you one single question. And if you can answer my question, then I will switch and come to your side and start fighting for your version, whatever you want that to be. I said, if you can just answer me one question. And when you get to Lucifer, the people who defend all these new perversions, they'll say, Well, Lucifer means morning star. That's why we translate, we we took the name Lucifer and translated it as the meaning and made it morning star. Well, it doesn't mean morning star, it means brightness. Okay. The word is is light bearer or brightness as in a morning star, but it's not morning star. So the you know the language is descriptive. I said, so here's what I want to ask you. I said, Isaac means laughter. Ishmael means God will hear or God has heard. Uh, you know, uh uh uh Jehovah saves is uh uh Joshua means Jehovah saves, Jesus means Jehovah saves. So all of those words, all Hebrew words have a meaning. They have a name, every name has a meaning. Wonder why the one name that they took out of there and translated as its so-called meaning was the name of the devil and not any other. They didn't translate Isaac as laughter anywhere, nowhere. The one time they changed any name, the one time they made any name supposedly as its meaning was the devil himself. Now, who wouldn't want that name in there?
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's just like Acts 8.37. You know, in the NIV they they remove Acts chapter 8, verse 37, where the eunuch said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Why would that be gone from a Bible?
SPEAKER_04Exactly.
SPEAKER_02Why who would want that? Think about it just for a second, think logical. Who would want the name of the devil taken out of the Bible, or who would not want, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God left in the Bible? That's a pretty simple answer.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And when I hit that guy with that question, he sat there, he said, I don't have an answer for that. And I said, Of course you don't. I said, you need to pray about that.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And and I think that's good advice. I think you need to pray about that.
SPEAKER_08I do too. And like all this is pointing back to the fact that, like we said, they all Paul told them to speak the same thing. Right. How can we speak the same thing if you and I have a different Bible word? Say we're starting a church right now. Right. Say we felt, you know, led to start a church and everything, and we're starting this church, and we uh we're saying, okay, like what is our doctrine gonna be? You know, like because people decide their doctrine however they want, I guess, sometimes. But say we're saying this is back in the day, we're like, you know, what what do we need to do? How does this church need to be led, and everything? You find that in the word of God. If we're making decisions as a church, where are we gonna find out? Okay, like we want to do this, we pray about it, but where do we seek the answer from? Yeah, the word of God. Right, absolutely. The word of God is supposed to give authority, it is, it gives you comfort, the word of God will change your life, the word of God you know leads you to salvation. Second Timothy, he said the holy scriptures which are able to uh make thee wise into salvation. And uh, oh, that's another place I turned a minute ago is in 2 Timothy. What he always says is, or what they call it is you know, scripture, but it says uh Jesus would say, you know, search the scriptures. For in them you think you have eternal life, you know what I mean? For what saith the scripture, right? And like they're always Paul, Jesus, Jesus being the most important, they're always pointing back to the scriptures. Paul would always reference, and then Peter and them would reference Psalm, you know, uh Jesus referenced Deuteronomy, Isaiah, and all these books, and like they're referencing the scriptures for a reason.
SPEAKER_02Right. Well, it's the only way to grow. Yeah. Uh uh 1 Peter 2, 2, as newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word that you may grow thereby. The only way to grow the way God wants you to grow, the only way to know what God wants you to know is get his scriptures. Exactly, yeah. And you have to have it's a final authority thing. Um it has to be. I mean, it just absolutely has to be. There's no getting around that. Um, we were talking about what's the worst, and and in my personal opinion, the new King James is probably one of the worst. Because over and over I've talked to I don't know how many old people, you know, grandparents or grandson got saved, and they went to the Bible store to buy them a Bible and they picked up what they thought was a King James, but they didn't notice that subdued N above that. They saw KJV. Yeah, you know, it's like uh I've got one right here, and you see that the way that that end is kind of subdued, and I don't know if the camera can pick that up, but I'll put it up there anyway. And and you see that, and there it is. It's they accidentally bought a King James Bible that didn't happen to be a King James Bible. I say that N stands for not King James, but that's you know, that's just my way of looking at that.
SPEAKER_08That's usually what I say too. And I've heard people say, you know, well, it's got a it's got a lot of similarities, but that's the subtlety of the devil. And I think I think we've talked, we've talked about that before about how you know your opinion is that you know he got the he used the ESV, the NIV, uh the CSB, things like that. That was way too much out there. Yep. And he kind of came, he kind of like toned it back. And but if you look at those though, for one, you know, the all uh what is it, um, 1 Corinthians 1 18 in the New King James says, to you which are being saved. Yeah. And then for us in the King James Bible says to you which are saved. Now, if you read uh 1 Corinthians 1.18 in context, you'll see why you know they try to do that, but to you which are to us which are saved is not it's not hard to figure out what he's saying. So it's not he's not saying just Paul and this church. He's talking about it doesn't mean always, but anyway, like so that's one of the big discrepancies. But another one for me is if you look at it, it's in the in the notes all throughout the Bible, it's saying, and I I'll be honest with you, I've got a King James at the house that I started noticing that um in the uh what is this called again, the marginal notes, I guess. In the margins, it'll say, or this, you know, or this. And you gotta be careful of that stuff too, like because like and that's my biggest thing with like I said, I don't have a problem if you try to use the Hebrew and the Greek, you know, if you try to get, I guess, draw more out of the definitions and stuff like that, and maybe bring some extra side things in. I don't necessarily have a problem with that. I know some people do, yeah. But if you use the context and you use your Bible, you can get it. It might take you a little longer, but it's worth the you know, the worth weight. And it's also it's just when you start using that to say this word is better, or I like this definition better, I'm like, nope, nope.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, well, and there's another there's another good thing you brought up. Look at Zechariah 13. Um, you you find a very clear passage uh talking about Jesus Christ. And it's it's very easy to figure out what are these wounds in thine hands? Those these are they which I was wounded in the house of my friend. So you take that. Well, if you got a new King James, it doesn't say that anymore. So listen to what it does say. It says, What are these wounds between your arms? Now how do you take hands and get between your arms? Between your arms is your chest. You know, uh so you take what are these wounds and on hands? Hands and between your arms doesn't even get close. Um you you got that, but here's the thing in different uh uh editions or different revisions of the New King James, they've got different things. And they don't tell you they've made changes, they just make the changes and keep pushing out the Bible. They keep pushing it out. So, in like a 1999 version of the New King James, you'll have between your hands or between your arms, and and in some of the 82 versions, you've got what are these wounds in your hands, which is right and accurate, but then you may have. I've got an 82, this is an 82 version right here that says between your arms.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So you got 182 that says hands and 182 that says between your arms. You've got no consistency at all.
SPEAKER_08See, that's that's my issue, is like no uniformity, no consistency. I'm not trying to make it about like a chance.
SPEAKER_02I receive you, brethren, that you speak the same thing. Yeah, you know, how are you speaking the same thing if you don't have the same thing in your Bible?
SPEAKER_08Exactly, yeah. And I know um people will say, you know, back then they didn't have the scriptures and stuff like that, or whatever the case is. He told Timothy, the holy scriptures that you have. Did Timothy have the originals, or did Timothy have a copy? He had copies of the originals. He had copies, right? Amen. And so, like, they had the ability back then, and like you said, I do believe you either believe, like, that's where you gotta come to, or it's where I had to come to. That's where everybody's gotta come to. You either believe God can preserve his word, or you don't. Or you don't. And like you either believe that you know he has a perfect word or he doesn't. And if you don't believe it's a perfect word, you believe there's errors. Right. I mean, that's the only two options, right?
SPEAKER_02And if there's errors, then God made mistakes. Yeah, or he wasn't able to preserve it. He wasn't strong enough or able. Yeah, it's like uh pastor was preaching last night. Uh, what can God not do? You know, what can't God do? Uh to say God can't is a hard sentence to finish.
SPEAKER_08Yeah. I mean the Bible only says it a couple times. It says what um God cannot lie.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_08And then there's a couple other ones I can't remember now. I'll talk about it.
SPEAKER_02I'll tell you one thing he can't do, he can't save you apart from his son.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, exactly. Because he said he would. And but like, so yeah, getting back to the scripture, he says that he speaks the same thing, and not only you know, the King James versus other Bibles, but other Bibles within your church, say you've got one pastor uses you know an ESV, one pastor, it'd say, you know, some churches have multiple, like not preachers, but multiple literal pastors. Right, yeah, they do. And um, it'll say, you know, one's got an NIV, one's got an ESV, well, this pastor preaches out of this one. It's gonna it's gonna lead to division. I mean, no matter how you but not only that, and not only like, you know, with these other Bibles, but with our own Bible, with our with the King James, if you and I don't know it, and that's one of the things I wrote a couple of things down, if it's impossible to have real unity if you have different Bibles and different authority, you don't know your Bible. Yeah, you mean you don't seek it first and last, and you don't use it right. Right. So if A, I don't know my Bible, it's gonna be really hard, or if we don't know our Bible, it's gonna be really hard to have, you know, any kind of unity. Right. Because a lot of like just using them as an example, but unfortunately a lot of small, like more, you know, I guess I'll say it this way and just say how it is, country churches that I've been in sometimes that don't know their Bible, they'll go based off, like I'll I'm gonna put this uh I've heard this before, I saw use it. The saying in John 10, when he says, No man is able to pluck me out of the, you know, or no man is able to pluck you out of my hand, or and all those things he's talking about, not being able to be plucked out of the father's hands. He says, No man, people will say, You are no man. Right. No. Where do you get that from? And I thought, you know, you I I've I'm guessing they've got that from Psalm 22, where he says, I'm a worm and no man. But you know what I'm saying? Like people will take things completely out of context and they'll say things like that, or they'll use say Philippians 2, what is it, 2.11. Let me find the verse real quick. Philippians 2.11 and 12. They'll use these and they'll say, well, it's the one that talks about working out your own salvation. Fear and trembling. Which which verse is that?
SPEAKER_02That's a good, I'm glad you brought that up. I I got something on that soon as you get where you're going with that.
SPEAKER_08But I'm trying to find the verse, but anyway, the the verse where Paul says, you know, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. But in the next verse he says, for it is God which worketh in you both. Right.
SPEAKER_01Will and to will of his good pleasure.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, so what he's saying is God is working in you.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_08So work out what God is working in you. It doesn't mean, well, buddy, just work out your own pleasure. That's yourself, yeah. That ain't it. But that's what I'm saying is if we're out of context, we're gonna have so many different doctrines. We're gonna have so many different things. And you'll find that in a lot of churches that don't either take, usually that don't take the Bible literally at all. It's a lot of spiritual stuff. Yep. That's where you'll find a lot of that, and like, and I've got the Bible wrong before. I have said stupid stuff from the pulpit and I regret it, and I look back and I'm like, oh, I was so stupid for saying that. And hopefully one day I get to go back to that church and you know fix those things. Yeah, but like I've said stupid stuff before too, and I've got notes. I threw a whole book of notes away because I messed a bunch of stuff up and looked back and I was like, Oh, I messed the whole thing, so I gotta throw those notes away. There's no point in keeping them, you know. Right. But like I've done that before, but what they'll do is like, for one, we lift preachers up way too high, and then we'll say, Okay, well, he's you know, they'll be like, Well, my preacher told me this and stuff, my papa told me this. Like, what does the Bible say about it?
SPEAKER_02You know, for what say the scripture? I heard somebody say that one time. Well, my papa, my papa, my papa, you know, over and over and over. I said, Well, what if your papa was wrong?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, what if he didn't know what he was talking about? Uh, you know, you got but the thing about that that work out your own salvation, I've heard I've heard so many people butcher that in in so many ways. Uh I have a uh a friend of mine who pastors a church up in Russellville, Kentucky, and and I was listening to him the other day mowing my yard, and he came across this and I loved it. Work out your own salvation. You go to the gym and you work out. Well, do you do muscles pop up that weren't there before? No, they do not. You're working out what you already have.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02You're working out the muscles that are already there. That's a good one. So when you work out your own salvation, it's the salvation that's already there. And it's like you said in the second verse, they miss that, for it is God that worketh in you, both to will and to do of his good pleasure. In other words, he's going to give you the will to do his good pleasure. And you're working out, you've all it's an outpouring of what's inside.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's all that is. That's all that comes out to be. And it's not trying to work out your way to heaven. He didn't say work your way to heaven. No. You know?
SPEAKER_08No, and that's something I've been dealing with right now in the study that I'm I'm preaching this weekend is dealing with righteousness and stuff and you know, being saved, but not only being saved, but about basically doing good things after you're saved. It's not a bad thing to do good things. Absolutely. It's a bad thing to do good things for the wrong reason. Right. So if you're always doing it thinking in mind, okay, when I get to the judgment day, what I'm doing right now is going to determine whether or not I enter into heaven and have eternal life. What determines whether or not you have eternal life is when Jesus died on the cross and shed his blood for you and shed his blood for the entire world, when you put your faith in him and you receive the atonement, there you go, then you're completely clean. Right. And now, since your sins are gone, blessed is the man whose sins are covered. Now that your sins are gone, you are given eternal life. You have no, you know, you're no longer in God's eyes. John 10, 28. Yeah. So yeah, you're you're secure. And the reason you're secure is the blood of Jesus Christ washes away all your sins.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, takes away the Lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the Lord.
SPEAKER_08And so you're you're given eternal life. It's not, and that's I think where we talked, remember I talked to that guy. I think I missed what he was saying. I think now I realize he was saying that um he when he said, you know, I'm getting there when it comes to salvation. I thought he meant he was trying to figure out what it all means. But now I realize I think he means, you know, whenever I get there, I'll get it. And they think that, you know, I've talked to Church of God people, I've talked to Church of God people think, you know, when I get there, then I'll be in his hand. Right. Which no, you get eternal life right now. But anyway, so that we come to that conclusion though, because we have the Bible. When I'm saying all this stuff, you're thinking this verse, this verse.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you're eating me up with the Bible right now because I'm going over like you're taught uh uh the works, you know, uh outpouring of works. He said in Titus 3, 5, not by works of righteousness, which we have done, but according to his mercy hath he saved us. But but he also said in Ephesians 2, 8 and 9, he said, for we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus unto good works. So in other words, we're not supposed to say, Well, I'm you know, I'm saved by grace through faith plus nothing, so I don't have to do anything, I'm just gonna sit here and wait. That's not the whole, that's not the whole picture either. We're supposed to be busy doing good works, but that's not what saves us.
SPEAKER_05No.
SPEAKER_02He said when he said uh also in Titus, let ours also uh uh be be put in mind to to keep up good works. But these things are good and profitable unto men. They're not uh they're not profitable to God, they're profitable to you.
SPEAKER_08He saved us to be a peculiar people, right? Uh jealous of good works.
SPEAKER_02Right. So we ought to work for one another. We're working for each other.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh we're not working to earn favor with God or earn. We're we're working to help one another.
SPEAKER_08And in 2 Corinthians 5, we're already accepted in the beloved, but he says that he wanted to be accepted if when he be found and be accepted. He's not talking about being accepted as in like being accepted to be saved. He's talking about you've been given a job. Now go do that, which we talked about that in this during this podcast. We've talked about being sanctified and all those things. You've been given a job, go do that job. Or on judgment day, yeah. Yeah, I don't believe it's gonna be a great day for you.
SPEAKER_02Paul said, I beseech you that you walk worthy of the vocation wherewith you're called. A vocation's a job.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02We were called to a job, you know, we're called to do, we're called to come in there and and and do. I mean, we're not we're not called to sit back. Yeah, exactly. Um, you know, and that like I said, but that's not what saves you either.
SPEAKER_08No, but that's what we've come to that conclusion, bringing this back to the topic is like we've come to that conclusion based on the fact we both have the same Bible, we both are able to have the same standard. And then uh what he says in the second part, he said that you speak the same things we've covered, you know, having the right Bible. If you don't have a King James Bible, authorized King James Bible, not a revised, not a what is it, 1769, or is it yeah, it's 1769. Okay, not the 1769, not the communist Bible, not you know, these other if you have an authorized King James Bible. Yes, I realize this is not the literal, like old English 1611, like but I've got one. Yeah, I mean you but you you can I can also read that. It's not rocket science. I've read it before, I've taken pieces of the 1611 and I can sit there and read it. It's not just like this. You know, they say, like, like you said, people think you're calling them stupid when you say these things. A lot of people are by saying you need an NIV to understand the Bible are calling you stupid.
SPEAKER_02Right. Because you can't understand what God gave you.
SPEAKER_08I was like, what does thou mean? Someone told me what thou meant. I was like, okay. Reading in context. Uh good, like I've said this before, reading ahead, like reading the entire chapter. And if you don't understand something, just read the entire chapter. You'll start to see the context. Yeah, yep. But like most of all, my pastor used to always say this being saved. You have to be saved to really get the Bible.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's the truth, because uh, you know, he said he said here in in uh in 1 Corinthians, I believe. Yeah, 14, right here, 214. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness unto him, neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned. You only understand this Bible because the Holy Ghost explains it as you go.
SPEAKER_07Exactly.
SPEAKER_02He'll open it up. The Holy Ghost inside, if you're born again, you have to have that. If you're born again, the Holy Ghost lives in you, and that's the teacher. He's the teacher. Right, he's the one that wrote it. So he has perfect liberty to teach you what he meant and what he said. And and it'll all come it'll all come together. The Bible never ever contradicts. No. If you have a contradiction in your Bible, then that's your problem, not the Bible's problem. You have to figure out where that contradiction went wrong and where you went wrong to come up with a contradiction.
SPEAKER_08And we've talked about this before. The Bible, Timothy says rightfully dividing the word of truth. It's like we've talked about um you've got hyper dispensationalists and stuff like that that'll say, or hyper whatever that'll say, you know, you can't even really read Second Peter and stuff like that. That's not the case. But it's like I've heard I've heard a preacher say this before. He said, you know, and I I believe this and I believe it's correct. It's you know, for us, for the church, he said, um, if it contradicts Paul, it ain't for y'all. You know, basically it's like if it goes against what Paul said, it ain't for y'all. Like when it comes to salvation and stuff and different things, like where you might be thinking, or you know, if it's under the law, things are gonna sound a little different. Yeah, things are gonna we don't stone people to death. No, we don't sacrifice animals. We're not under the law. We're under grace. If you're saved, you're under grace. So I guess there's gonna be things that sound different, but the Bible's not contradicting itself, you just have to read it within the context of where they're talking to, right? All those things. But moving on to the next portion, he says, if you think we're good with what we've covered on the the if there's there is so much more. I know there's a lot more we can we can cover.
SPEAKER_02I haven't gotten anywhere near uh half of what I brought. There's so many the the the Bible version issue needs to be to me dealt with on its own. Uh because there's so many things that you can we everything you can bring. Up in a doctrinal aspect, I can bring up a problem with another version.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, and and again, I am not what you might consider an authority on these things. Uh, but God has given me some some insight in some of it, and He showed me a lot of things. Uh I've got a stack of notes here on the new King James. I've got a stack of notes on all the different other versions. I can take you through just about every one you can think of and show you what's wrong. Uh the living Bible, so-called. Okay, it's not even uh it's not even a translation, it's a transliteration. Okay, so they somebody took a King James Bible and sat down and said, Well, I think it ought to say it this way. So in 1 Samuel 20, verse 30, you've got Saul mad at his son, uh Jonathan, because he knows him and John him and David are really close and he knows he's gonna take David's side, and and God has already told Saul that he's gonna give the kingdom to David. So he already knows all that, and he's fighting mad at his own son, and in the King James Bible he says, Thou son, he threw a javelin at him, tried to kill his own son, and he said, Thou son of the perverse and rebellious woman. Okay? That's pretty simple to understand, that's not hard to figure out. But if you've got a uh a so-called living Bible, it says U S O B and spells a word out. You can't you don't need to put gutter language to make the thing more understandable. No, and you can't take perverse and rebellious and make SOB out of that. No, I don't care what you do, you you you're you're not, it's not possible to get there. No. Um, and then you've got places in in these new versions where you wouldn't believe the way they talk about things. The King James Bible is respectful, but look at here, this thing talks about life. This Bible spells out real life, real people and real events that happened in time, and and there are things that happened in time that have to be dealt with with a little bit of discretion. And some of these new versions, they don't have that discretion. Uh, there are things I can show you a I I've got one at home. I've got a girls' study Bible, uh, a girls NIV study Bible that talks about things that is not suitable for young girls. I mean, it it's uh I wouldn't I'm not willing to discuss them on TV, you know, or on a podcast out loud for people to know. Uh I could read the King James version to you, you know, and show you what it talked about. Uh uh and and her sister, who were pretty bad girls, you know, in the things that they did. And and it it it's like I said, the King James has discretion about it, these other versions not so much.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh you wouldn't want to hand your daughter uh a Bible to read that had these things spelled out, sexual things I'm talking about, spelled out in a way that doesn't need to be spelled out.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, I was gonna say God God uses discretion, definitely. We talked about that where I'm I've been going over First Corinthians in my in the young adult fellowship, which is mainly right now teenagers, and even I even have to use discretion, even like uh if there's younger than a certain age, I have to even even with the young ones, even with the teenagers, I should say, right? I still use discretion. But if there's a certain age that shows up one day, I have to kind of tell I which hasn't happened, but I often obviously there's certain things I have to cut out of my you know preaching, but I keep it very, very vague because I just keep it where the Bible says it. And I was talking to a man about um preaching on 1 Corinthians 7, talking about you know purity and all that. We always say pure, but the Bible says virgin. But when you say virgin, you know, people's minds are automatically, but the last time I preached on it, I was sitting there thinking about it and I was like, man, I feel like I've, you know, because chapter five and six are about the same thing, fornication. And uh I was like, man, I feel like that word, you know, has been brought up a lot and stuff. But then as I was getting, I got to the end of the chapter and I was like, what came to my mind was I said this while I was preaching, um, I know I'm just gonna be honest, a lot of parents just let their kids watch whatever they want to watch on TV. They do. I know what they listen to because I've heard it. Uh I know what you say because I've you know I've heard it. So me sitting here saying Bible words, being very discreet, not being, you know, in depth, just explaining what the book what the text says as you know as best I can, it's not gonna kill anybody, especially if I'm preaching against the things that you're putting in your mind that the world is trying to force on you. Right. It's not like, but like you said, and who would be behind trying to give someone a filthy mind? Who would be behind trying to put these things into people? That's what you got to think about. And I think we'll kind of wrap up the King James versus other Bibles with this saying, no, you need to number one, know if you're saved, know the enemy and know what he would be trying to push on you. And that way you can see why would Lucifer's name, why would he want his name to be taken out of the Bible? Amen. Okay, that's one thing. If your Bible has Lucifer being the morning star or the day star, you really ought to consider getting the King James, not a not a CSB or anything else. Right. King James Bible. Well, they all got the same problems, yeah. They all have the same problems. Um, and not only that, but if you're going to a church where you've got a whole bunch of different Bibles going on and no one really, you know, has a set standard of truth, there's no unity there. So I would consider going to a box King James Bible-believing church. Not one that just states, you know, we're King James, but one that is truly a King James Bible-believing church. And really pray about these. If you're a new believer and you're, you know, somebody's giving you one of these false Bibles or whatever the case is, just seriously sit down and consider these things we're talking about. Look it up for yourself online, compare the Bibles. Do your That's the biggest thing. Do it yourself. Take go go on Bible Hub, put on parallel, King James, and this, and go down and see all the verses that are missing. Go through the gospel, see all the times Jesus' name has changed and all the omissions.
SPEAKER_02It it let me hit one more little thing. I'm sorry, I can't I can't get away from it. If if what they're they're advertising thing, see it's Madison Avenue, okay? Yeah, it's an advertising approach, and all this thing is is a way to make more money. Uh a wise old man I know said if it if it doesn't make sense, there's a buck in it.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, so you gotta stop and consider that. Uh, all these versions are copyrighted. Yeah, every one of them are copyrighted. If I sat down here today and me and Travis got together and we decided we're gonna write a book, and we use more than I I can't remember the exact number of verses, but if we use a certain number of verses out of a new King James, we have to give them credit. We have to send them money out of our book. They get a percentage of that because their their Bible is copyrighted. The King James only has a crown copyright, which means if you're going to copy it, copy it right. Yeah you can you can go and and set up a printing press in your house today and print King James Bibles and sell them all day long, but they have to be a King James Bible if you call it a King James Bible. That's the only copyright it has. So anybody can use all the King James Bible that they want to use. But they say, well, it's easier to understand. You know, we took the New King James, let's say New King James, we took out the these and the thou's and made it easier to understand. Well, that doesn't make it easier to understand, okay? Thee and thou and you and ye and all of us, they have meanings behind them. And if you just do a little bit of research, a little bit of study, the Bible says, study to show thyself approved unto God. You know what the New King James says? Do your best. Do your best. Okay, how do I do my best? Well, your best is to study.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, so but here's the thing it should be easier to understand. I want to hit a few of these verses real quick. In in uh Genesis 18 1, uh the Bible says plains. You know, Abraham dwelt in the plains. The New King James says Abraham dwelt in the Terebith trees. That's so much easier to understand than plains, isn't it? I mean, everybody knows that. Well, in Genesis 21, 33, Abraham planted a grove. A grove. That's what the King James Bible says. The New King James says Abraham planted a tamarisk tree. Much easier to understand, right? Well, Genesis 35, 4 talks about an oak. New King James Terebinth tree. Leviticus 4.11 says dung.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02We know what dung is. Everybody knows what dung is. That's not a secret word that that has a secret meaning. You know what it says in New King James? Oful. OFFAL. OFAL. That's just awful, isn't it? Well, that smells awful. I mean, it doesn't make sense. It should be easier to understand.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's what they're saying. So uh in Judges 8.13, the Bible says the sun was up. Pretty easy. The sun was up. Right now, it's in 1117 here, the sun's up. Okay. Well, this says the ascent of Harry's. The sun was up. Tamarisk tree for tree in 1 Samuel 22. This stuff is unbelievably harder to understand. I got one more, right? Well, two more. In the uh uh in the King James Bible and in 1 Kings 10 2 said this train filled the temple. Train. That every woman that's ever been married knows what a train is. It folds behind her dress as she's walking down the aisle. The train. His train filled the temple. Well, this says retinue. Retinue. That's much easier to get. Oh yeah, here you go. Titus, let's get in the new the New Testament here for just a second. Titus 1.6 says riot and unruly. That says dissipation and insubordination. Acts 27, 17, quicksand. Has anybody here not ever heard of quicksand? I mean, everybody knows what quicksand is, but if you read the New King James, it says assertice sands. S-Y-R-T-I assertus sands. Has anybody ever heard of that? Have you ever heard of assertice of sands? No. I never have either. So it they say easier to understand. I don't believe that.
SPEAKER_07No.
SPEAKER_02Don't believe it for a second. In in the qualifications for a bishop in 1 Timothy, no striker. Okay. Don't hit nobody.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's pretty simple. Well, this uh in the uh New American standard, I believe it is, says not pugnacious.
SPEAKER_07I don't know that.
SPEAKER_02I mean, a lot of people don't know what pugnacious means. You know, if you run the word, run the word back to its original thought process, pugilistic is a fighter. A pugilist is a fighter. But that's a word that has been long out of use.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02No striker is pretty easy to understand. Uh we get we get all these easy words, and you're talking about one-syllable words like oak goes to terebinth tree, four syllables. You know, the majority of one-syllable words in the in the King James Bible is unbelievable as opposed to what it goes to these others. Uh, it's supposed to be at a sixth grade reading level is a King James.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And all the others are 12th and early college, you know, and in the reading level. You you do those tests on them, whatever that test is called. Again, I'm not an educated guy, but I'm smart enough to know this.
SPEAKER_08Well, what kills me is one of my biggest things about it is I don't want to, you know, like, and this is not like my final and official argument, but this is just something I thought about. Um, you know, Paul even says in 1 Corinthians 7, the time is short. And we know the time is short, and we know God wants his word getting out there. We know that they pub, they published the word in Acts, you know, when they first heard the word, they were so excited to hear it. They go telling everybody we're supposed to tell people the word. Amen. Holding forth the word of truth. You know, that's what we're supposed to be doing, right? We're supposed to be taking not just the gospel, but his commandments, all the what I've taught you. Yeah. And Paul said, I've not ceased it, you know, or he said that he's taught them the whole council, his blood, his hands are clean from the blood of all men. Right. And uh, but my what thing that kind of comes to my mind is time being short and all that. Why are we still waiting for people to find these so-called original manuscripts and things, and you're keeping the Bible from reading like you're saying that we don't have the Bible yet. We don't have, and but a lot of it what I was gonna get to, the point is a lot of it goes back to a lot of people that I hear say that are the people saying they're having dreams and revelations about new things, and God's pretty clear about that in Jeremiah 23 and 24, where he talks about, you know, they say they've had these dreams, you know, but he said, What's chapters? What's the chapter of the week? Just keep preaching the word, keep preaching that of the King James Bible, keep sharing the words of the King James Bible. And another thing, sometimes people are, like you said, are actually naive and don't realize, like you said, they might pick up a something. I've seen some people that will give me the like genuinely, you know, give me things like you know, I don't know, some devotional or something, not realizing it's got other versions in it. Yeah, be diligent, you know, right like look at things, make sure what you're given in your church, the like little handouts. Yeah. Now I've been in some places where they don't care, but you know, as long as we're not teaching and preaching out of it, it's fine. It's like as long as you just study out of it, no. No. King James, like same mind, speak the same thing, have the same judgment.
SPEAKER_02How can you have the same judgment if you've got well, and again, it goes back to somebody studying the Bible. You can study the King James Bible and and run the references. You know, you uh word studies are fantastic. If you want to look and find, you know, like Spirit of God, you can do a search on Spirit of God and find everywhere in the Bible that the term Spirit of God is used, and read those verses and and the surrounding verses most case in most cases, and you'll find out what the Bible's talking about when he's talking about the Spirit of God. Uh, but if you've got all these other different versions that you're studying out of, you're not clearing anything up, you're muddying the water.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, I mean you you look into this thing. The Bible is called a mirror, basically. You know, we look into the perfect perfect word of God as a mirror, and it it shows you what you are. But if you're seeing it in 47 different mirrors that are all dirt up, you're not seeing what you what God wants you to see. No, you're not. Uh and it's it's really not possible. But we and you it's impossible to be unity, uh to have unity uh in in that way.
SPEAKER_08I wanted to read one verse. I don't know if you ever heard this, you probably have, but I've heard this, someone mentioned this. I thought it was kind of ironic, Genesis 2.17. But of the tree of knowledge, God's telling this to Adam, tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat it, thou shalt not eat it. For in the day that thou eatest thereof, thou shalt surely die. Eve says this. And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden, but of the fruit of the tree of which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it. She added to it. In the first three books, nine books really, or some say eleven, you'll find a lot of like, you know, your main core, you know, doctrines and stuff like that. Or you can find a lot of main core things in those first eleven books about you know fundamental things. And one of the in the first three, you know, chapters, a woman has already like added to it. And it's not just because it's a woman, but like, yeah, I mean, women aren't called to be preachers or pastors, but like man has already, when man fall, or when men fell, they already were taken. Or they were already adding to the word of God, but she was deceived, and we know that, but the fact is, like, in that, when that was going on, she got the word of God wrong. And it's not that, you know, okay, yeah, she could have said, we're allowed to not we're not allowed to touch it, but we can still eat the fruit. You know, she could have messed it up that way, but in in general, I'm just saying she did mess it up, and it's just something interesting. I never realized that before, but um, I want to close out today, I guess, and close this episode out. But getting back, I'm just gonna read that verse one more time where he says that that y'all speak the same thing. That's what we've covered today. We want to be able to speak the same thing in church, we want to have the same mind, the same judgment. And then the next episode, we're gonna get more into division and you know, having some good divisions and what it means to have good division, because there are good divisions in the church. There are definitely things that needed to be divided from. But uh, I think we'll end there for today. Thank you guys for joining us.
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