Make Peace With Purpose, Talk About WWE Royal Rumble, And Rank The Greatest NFL Draft Classes While Planning PS3 Nostalgia Next Week

A bathroom confession, a hot take on Giannis, and then the countdown that always starts a fight: we rank the greatest NFL draft classes and make the case for 1996 as the true number one. Ray Lewis, Brian Dawkins, Marvin Harrison, Terrell Owens, and Jonathan Ogden anchor a class that still shapes how we see dominance across positions. We also push back on stale lists by championing 2011—JJ Watt, Julio Jones, Von Miller, Richard Sherman—as a modern powerhouse that deserves way more love.

From there we pivot to the Royal Rumble, talking about why nostalgia pops can’t replace stakes, and why a Roman Reigns vs CM Punk program can work when real-life heat meets great storytelling. If you’ve heard whispers about the “pipe bomb,” we break down why that moment still echoes through WWE, what’s changed, and what hasn’t. It’s a clean runway into our PS2 time capsule: Madden 2005’s Hit Stick shook the culture, Need for Speed Underground 2 turned nights neon, Gran Turismo 3 rewarded precision, and Ratchet & Clank proved charm never goes out of style. With GTA 6 hype hitting a fever pitch, we trace how open-world games trained us to expect more from every sandbox.

We also get personal. Would you choose total freedom without purpose, or total purpose without freedom? That question leads to parenting wins and misses, a practical blueprint for teaching teens credit the right way, and why sports cards are surging again as history repeats. It’s sports talk with memory lanes, wrestling drama with receipts, and gaming nostalgia with a plan for what’s next—exactly the mix that keeps our day ones coming back.

If you vibe with honest takes and real stories, hit follow, share with a friend, and tell us your top three draft classes. And drop your PS2 Mount Rushmore while you’re at it—we’re ranking PS3 next week.

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Transcript

Cold Open: Nighttime Toilet Rules

SPEAKER_02 0:08

I will not flush the toilet in the middle of the night. It is too loud and obnoxious, and it I don't like the sound of it. So I will pee and I will flush it in the morning. I just, I don't, that it absolutely drives me nuts. All right, guys, ready? Here we go. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to episode six of Rippin' and Taron. Ripping and Tarran through these episodes. The comments that we got from episode five was awesome. And again, we're just getting good at this stuff. We're starting to really roll with this. We're feeding off of each other. Our topics are getting really fun. People are starting to really understand what we're all about. So we appreciate the uh 17 people that have made comments and follow us on our pages. Again, I'm gonna cheat plug it right now. Again, Instagram, ripping and tearing, YouTube soon ripping and tearing, TikTok, ripping and tearing. Get on there, share it with your friends, share it with your family. We appreciate each and every one of you guys for tuning in.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Love, love, love, love, love, love, love.

NBA Talk: Giannis And Wolves Hopes

SPEAKER_02 1:04

Follow us and we will give you the love. So there's not gonna be a lot of NFL talk due to the Super Bowl coming up this Sunday. We will do a podcast after and cover all the goods from that game. What's going on with the rest of the sports, man? I don't I don't follow basketball and baseball too much.

SPEAKER_00 1:19

That kind of your area. The crazy part, after the Trey Young trade, we kind of, you know, went a week there and there was not a lot going on. And all of a sudden, Giannis Atatacumbo said, I'm done. Excuse me? Giannis Atatakumbo. All right. I just thought you had a bunch of peanut butter stuck to the show. No, that's his real name. Giannis Attackumbo. I have heard of it. I've just never I've heard of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

Like he's just it. I've heard of him, I've just never watched him.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

Yeah, yeah. No, he's amazing. He's a prolific player. He won a championship. Yeah, with Milwaukee. And so he's just kind of checked out. You can just tell he doesn't really even give the same effort as before. But he wants out. It sounds like when me and you were talking a little bit that the Wolves are really trying to get him. And please, God, I'm kind of, if anybody, I'm a Wolves fan. I love Anthony Edwards. He's my favorite player. Please, God, get rid of Rudy Gobert. Ship him to Milwaukee with a couple of draft picks. And please, God, make that happen.

SPEAKER_02 2:21

God, I hope you're listening because he's summoned you about six times in this conversation. So I hope you're a basketball fan. Just one more time. God, please. All right. Well, I can't touch on that. I can't spell his last name, let alone say it, let alone dribble a basketball. So anything else you got for basketball? That's about the biggest.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

That's the biggest one for sure.

Top NFL Draft Classes Countdown

SPEAKER_02 2:42

Sweet. All right. Well, yeah. On that note, we're going to roll right into our draft class conversation. So, what we were going to do was top three draft classes in our opinions. And what we're going to do is actually go through the top 10, and then we're going to pick essentially our three off of that and see where we roll with that. All right. So, 10 greatest draft classes in NFL history. We're going to go through Pro Bowlers. We're going to go through your personal ones. If I touch base on one of them, jump in here. But number 10, they have the 1989. They have Hall of Famers. There's five of them in that class. Troy Aikman, Barry Sanders, Derek Thomas, Deion Sanders, Steve Atwater. Pro Bowls out of that year, there was 26 of them. And that is number 10 on a list.

SPEAKER_00 3:26

Do you think Steve Atwater hits harder than Ray Lewis?

SPEAKER_02 3:30

Great, great question. No overall, but man, he was my favorite Bronco of all time. Because when he hit that hole with Christian Okoy, nobody puts Christian Okoy in his spot. And do you ever see that video where he hits the gap? Yes, and nobody hits him.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

I thought he exploded his brain. It was it was unreal. Or the pass over the middle when he meets all three, including one of his defenders. It looked like he instantly gave his defender CTE. Love Steve Atwater. He's my favorite Bronco of all time.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

Really? Over John Lynch? Over John Lynch, over Terrell Davis.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

I take it over.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

Yeah, but John Like definitely over John Elway because I cannot stand John Elway personally. There's a lot of John Elway fans out there. I just, I'm just not an Lway guy. They're coming in at number nine is 1993. The Hall of Famers were Willie Rolfe, Jerome Bettis, Michael Strahan, Willie Shields, and John Lynch. Pro Bowls out of that class, they had 36 of them.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

Could you imagine being the size of Jerome Bettis? That is an offensive lineman running that ball. Could you have had a better nickname than the bus? I mean, don't get me wrong. He's he's running a 40 at the same speed of Tom Brady, but nobody's bringing him down. Insane.

SPEAKER_02 4:45

He was so fun growing up to watch because he was he was what we considered a fullback running as a halfback.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

I loved watching Ray Lewis put him in his spot too. That was that was a beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 4:57

I loved watching Ray Lewis smoke anybody. It was just awesome to watch him. All right, moving down to number eight, 2001 Hall of Famers. There were three of them. LT, Ladanian Tomlinson, Steve Hutchinson, and Richard Seymour. Pro bowlers. They spit out 34 of them. L'Danian Tomlinson's my favorite out of that one. Yeah. LT, man. Absolutely. He's he's top five running backs of all time in my personal list. Obviously, not like credentials and numbers and touchdowns, but me personally. We would play Madden when we were kids. We would always, who's gonna draft? You would draft him or I would draft him. We had to rush to go get them.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

And it was the other person that we always ended up picking up because of versatility was work done. Do you remember that? Yes, I love work done.

SPEAKER_02 5:42

All right, number seven, 2004. There was only one Hall of Famer. It was Jared Allen, but they spit out 30 Pro Bowlers. I would definitely disagree with that one. Again, it's number seven, but I don't think that was a very crazy good class. That was the year we graduated high school. I did not think anything was too hot on that.

SPEAKER_00 6:01

No, I would, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:08

Don't worry, guys. That will never go away. Moving to the next one. We hit number six. It was the 1996 draft. Hall of Famers, they had six. Jonathan Ogden, Marvin Harrison, Ray Lewis, Brian Dawkins, Terrell Owens, and Zach Thomas. Pro Bowlers 33. Wow. Where do you start with that class? That one is definitely on my list. Terrell Owens was the first 49ers jersey you ever had, right? An old Jerry Rice one when I was little. But yeah, I guess the quadruple XL one you bought me when I went to group. Yeah, it was definitely you look like that. I still own it, brother. I still appreciate you buying me that. And honestly, when was that? Middle school? Yeah. High school? Something like that?

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:54

It literally looks like the jersey or shirt that your wife or girlfriend steals from you to be completely butt-naked underneath because it's so fucking long, it drags on the floor.

SPEAKER_00 7:04

Now you're butt naked under that thing.

SPEAKER_02 7:06

I'm continuously butt-naked 24-7. Usually, I was butt naked before you walked in the door today.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

Well, thank God.

SPEAKER_02 7:12

Thank God that's all right. Going down to number five, 1968. Yowza. That was a deep one. Hall of Famers, eight of them. That's what she said. Yarley, Humphrey, uh Colp, Stabler, Sanders, Bethay, Art Shell. A lot of these I don't even recognize. Art Shell, we've got to. Good old Artsy Farty? Yeah. So we got a few of them, but obviously 1986 we're really leaning back there. And Pro Bowlers, and they weren't even called Pro Bowlers back then.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

I'm sorry. I just got to name that Art Smell? Shell. Shell. Yeah, he was Washington Red's. I bet he never, never got made fun of in high school. It was never a fart smell. So it was.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

Pro bowlers were called AFL All-Stars back then. There was 23 of them. I cannot touch base much of that or have much of a conversation on that one.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

Nope. I wasn't even a thought processor.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

There we go. Going into number four, 1985. The Hall of Famers, five of them. Bruce Smith, Chris Dolman, Jerry Rice, Andre Reed, and Kevin Green. Shout out to Beaver.

SPEAKER_00 8:16

Beaver had that on our TikTok comments that he picked that as one of the top three for him was Jerry was 1985, Jerry Rice, Bruce Smith, and Andre Reid.

Modern NFL Trends And Records Debate

SPEAKER_02 8:27

I was gonna put that in my list, but that was just being biased because of Jerry Rice. But overall, I was like, I can't put that one in there. I just I would just for Jerry Rice. Pro bowlers 31 out of there. What do you need to say about that one? Bruce Smith, one of the best. Chris Dolman was decent. He was good, obviously. Jerry Rice, the greatest. How can he argue? That's something to be said for sure. Insane. And number three is 1957. Hall of Famers were nine of them at the time. Don Maynard, Hitchinson, Jordan, Jergenson. Jergensen. Isn't that a lotion name now? Sonny Parker Brown. Jim Brown, one of the greatest running backs of all time. Paul Horning from the 49ers, and Len Dawson. That was a stacked class. Holy cow. Nine of them there. Pro bowlers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. AFL All-Stars, not Pro Bowlers back in that day. 36 of them. Going into number two, we've got the 1981. There is eight Hall of Famers in there. Lawrence Taylor, Ronnie Lott, Mike Singletary, Howie Long, Ricky Jackson, Sam Mills. This is a stacked class for sure. That's number two. Pushing into number one, that is the 1983 class. Hall of Famers, there was eight of them. John Elway, Eric Dickerson, Bruce Matthews, and I'm pretty sure Bruce Matthews is Clay Matthews' dad. Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, Daryl Green, Richard Dent, and Jim Covert. That is huge. And that had the largest Pro Bowl class of all time, 42.

SPEAKER_00 10:04

See, I I I hear those names. Like I hear you. But then I look at 1996 with Ray Lewis and Brian Dawkins, Marvin Harrison, Terrell Owens. How wait, what?

SPEAKER_02 10:17

That was on my list. That was on a personal list right there. That me too. That's my number one. Yes. That is my number one. The 96, yeah. I just remember leading it with Ray Lewis and being like, holy cow, it just got better and better and better. That's probably my number one class, too.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

For sure. My number two actually ended up being what I think was number five all time, 2011.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

Number five was nope, nope, nope, nope. Is 2011 not on there?

SPEAKER_02 10:45

Nope. And nope. No 2011. Spit out the facts on 2011.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

24 Pro Bowlers, JJ Watt, Julio Jones, Von Miller, Cam Newton, Richard Sherman. You're telling me those guys that's not up there?

Royal Rumble Reactions And WrestleMania Setup

SPEAKER_02 11:04

That is gotta be up there. That is a stacked class. That was my number two. And it honestly, and you look in looking back at this, this is all old school. They haven't even talked about some of like the 2000s and up. There were some crazy draft classes. It's a little different game now because everybody's running and sprinting for quarterbacks because it's always five to six in the first round, and sometimes five to six in the first 10 picks. Because it's a hit or miss league now. That's why every record, and I and I'll say this Jerry Rice's records will be beat. They will be beat because they throw the ball so much more now, and they're adding another game. If you guys follow NFL and if you watch anything with Roger Goodell, they're pushing now for an 18-game season, and they're pushing for eight games overseas, eventually pushing for 16, a full NFL season overseas. It's fucking money. They're trying to go worldwide. Oh money.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

They're trying to do what the NBA was trying to do, is impersonate.

SPEAKER_02 12:06

It's insane. But yeah, so it's it's a pass heavy league. Even running backs are hybrid more for dumps. You know, we hand off the ball a little bit, not like we used to, not back in the day, but now it's those little dumps. You get Barkley on a dump, you get McCaffrey on a dump, and then 90 yards.

SPEAKER_00 12:22

But that's one of the reasons why I don't really care for the completion percentage portion of it so much, because everything now is bubble screens. Dumps. And and and little just five-yard plays. They're not shooting them down the field. That's one of the reasons why I like Jordan Love so much. He just can't wait to throw that thing down the field. Take some shots. No, I agree. I agree 100%.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

Football back then was a little bit more 50, 30, 20. It's like 80% passing now. And that's why all these records will be beat. But to us, we're always gonna think those aren't real records.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

You know, it's not like they're not real records, but they've modified the defense and stuff to just kind of make it more friendly for the quarterback. 100%.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

Plus all the penalties. You know, God forbid I flick a fingernail at you, they're gonna call a fucking one of those guys.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

100%. 100%. My number three ended up being 1998. I think was that on the list as well? No. 1998 didn't make that list either.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

No, that's why I say this. Did you get that list from they said number one class was in 83, 85, 89? That's why I said they are not taking in two effects any of the upgraded man.

SPEAKER_00 13:35

1998 was Peyton Manning, Charles Woodson, Randy Moss, Jeremy Shockey. I know that that one might not, but that was my favorite tight end of all.

SPEAKER_02 13:46

Just pulled a Jeremy Shockey card this morning from a prism pack. Old school Jeremy Shockey. Any any Shockey fans out there? Did you just say a prison pack? Is Aaron Hernandez in there? Nope, he's gone. And then also Erlacher. I like the 98 class a lot, but again, that's that's you gotta remember.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

Is that us being biased?

SPEAKER_02 14:05

Is that the little bit because that's our prime? Like 98, like we were that 98, 99 Vikings team was incredible.

SPEAKER_00 14:13

Was 98 Troy Palomalu too?

SPEAKER_02 14:16

Palala balu.

SPEAKER_00 14:19

I don't know, but I absolutely love that guy. I think Troy might be the best safety of, in my opinion, might be the best safety of all time.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

I know it's so hard. That's a whole dude, that's a whole topic we could talk about because I put Ed Reed in there. Ed Reed, but it's like I loved watching Palomalu because his instincts, the way he jumped, like he knew. If anybody knows anything about Troy Palomalu, the safety, YouTube, his college hits, YouTube, his training. He trained so intensely, he was one of my favorite players probably ever.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

And he might even have like the top two or three best interceptions of all time. Yeah, the scoop. Yeah, with one-handed an inch away from it. How about when he jumped the line at the snap count? Yes, to get a sack. Nobody even got to move. He was in midair before they said hut.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Yes. Incredible play. That is a segment we need to do. Just on Troy.

SPEAKER_00 15:16

Five favorite plays of all time. Ooh. That could take a whole second. That would be awesome. That could take a whole second. That would be awesome. Okay. We finished my goal. Perfect, perfect, perfect.

CM Punk Backstory And Real-Life Heat

SPEAKER_02 15:29

All right. So anybody that watched The Royal Rumble, the pay-per-view, and you know what? I know they're PLEs now, but I am old school and I will always call them pay-per-views because back in the day we scrambled up$60 a month and invited all your friends and family over with food to watch every pay-per-view on a Sunday, and I hated it because we had to go to school on Monday. And I was like, why can't pay-per-views be on Saturday night? Well, guess what? I'm fucking 40 years old, and now they're on Saturday night when I don't have to wake up for school. Sucks. Just church. Yeah. But it's not five in the morning. You got to remember, guys, my mom worked at the school and I didn't ride the bus, so I went to school with my mom an hour and a half to two hours before the fucking morning bell. Oh, yeah. What a wonderful lady.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

Just I I remember I wouldn't even be sick. I'd go down just to say hi, but I would tell her I was sick. I'm pretty sure everybody did that.

PS2 Top Games: Madden, GTA, Racers

SPEAKER_02 16:24

My mom was like, yeah, just lay on the cot for 45 minutes. She would let me too. I'd love it. I just remember I hating to poop at school. Everybody hated pooping at school. I had a mom that had their own office. I had luxury pooping. Like, look at the top fucking line. The woman who cut off her husband's penis is Lorena Bobbitt, also known as a name I don't fucking know. The incident occurred on June 23rd, 1993, in Virginia, when she used a kitchen knife to sever her husband John Wayne Bobbett's penis while he was asleep. After the incident, she drove away and threw the severed penis into a fucking field. It was later found by the police, reportedly in a hot dog bag. What the fuck is a hot dog bag? And successfully reattached by a surgeon in 9.5 hours of operation. Wow. So if my wife ever cuts my penis off, at least I know in under 10 hours I can have that story.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

I don't know how to look it up in Somerset, but it does say Miss Bobbit was a teacher.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

I know we I know who you're talking about, but it was the fact that you said Lorena Bobbitt because you knew about this story somehow in your in your past and it triggered Lorena. I know who you're talking about. She had like a weird cut. Like a Bob cut? Yes. Yes. Now you're just reaching Bobbit, Bobbit cuts her penis off, Bob cut hair. Dude, this is why we can't use names. We gotta say stories without names. Ask your mom if she knows who Lorena is. But Lorena's the one that.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

See if she knows. Don't say it. Oh, do you know who Lorena Bobbit is? Is that your mom? Well, no, that's not the one that cut off that penis.

SPEAKER_02 18:07

You're live right now, Lori, on your podcast, by the way.

unknown 18:11

What did I win?

SPEAKER_02 18:12

You win a high five.

SPEAKER_00 18:14

Give me a high five. Skinny, tall, white. Yes. Butched hair. Looked like the new guy? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 18:27

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 18:30

So anybody that watched the Royal Rumble this year, let me know your take on it. I'm gonna be honest with you. I've been watching the Royal Rumble since I had one hair on my nut. And this was not a very good Royal Rumble. I did predict the winner. It was Roman Reigns. I did not predict the winner of the female, but it was disappointing a little bit just due to the fact that they have so many angles they could take with it. And there were so many people that didn't come out in the Rumble, but yet they brought back La Parka. Like they brought back older gimmicks and they were reaching so hard. It was it was just kind of a disappointing.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Oh bring back Papashengo, baby.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

Yeah, the Godfather. Same guy. Papashengo. Yeah, so the Royal Rumble, it was decent. It was okay. Nothing crazy. But now Roman Reigns wins it, and now he is fighting CM Punk at WrestleMania. So now they have a few months to build that back up. I truly believe this is Roman Reigns' last shot. This is his last little get up and go. He is the highest paid professional wrestler of all time, I believe. He makes$10 to$12 million a year on a WWE contract, which is unheard of. Logan Paul signed like a$15 million deal, but that spread over three years. A lot of people love Logan Paul, a lot of people hate Logan Paul. I am a huge Logan Paul fan because he is crazy good athletic. He is a very good wrestler, and the guy can market better than anybody in the world. Jake Paul, him and his brother, same thing. Like people hate them. They're incredible. They took something like YouTube and went crazy viral with it because they didn't give a fuck. They didn't give a shit what anybody thought. And I love that because if you don't give a shit what anybody thinks of you, you're unstoppable. That to me is the number one thing in the world to build your confidence, is once you get a case of the fuckets, and I call it the case of the fuckets because you just get to a point in life where you don't give a shit who judges you, who thinks anything of you, you're unstoppable at that point. And I feel like we're getting there in a podcast, man, because we don't care. And everybody jumps on podcasts and they're so scared to say certain things. We don't give a fuck, and we're gonna give less fucks the deeper we get into this. And we hope our audience thinks and feels the same fucking way. I'm telling you, the sooner you do that, the better. I'm trying to teach my daughter that right now with gymnastics and hockey and just go out there and give it everything you got. You can't worry about, and we all go through that stage 100%. We went through it our whole lives. But you as you do get older, you just realize that all the little things that you thought matter don't fucking matter. The jeans you wear, the shirt you have on. We worried so much about designer brands and this and that. And I was huge into that. That was that was number one for me. Like, I wouldn't leave the house until everything was perfect. The the ring of my shirt, the hair, my gel had to be perfect. Everything.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

The Puka necklace.

SPEAKER_02 21:25

No, the Puka shell necklaces, absolutely. Holla back 1997. Did you rock that fucking boy band look? Dude, I love the frosted tips. Gotta have it. But it's funny because the shoes, too. You get one scuff, absolutely not. That scuff is gone. I remember that. And people still live that life. And I get it. And it's funny now because now that I don't really jump on materialistic things at all, I look back and go, holy shit, I was deep into that. Like now I'm in it in a different venture. Now we're back to collecting sports cards and stuff. Now we're doing Something that everybody in the world's doing is trying to build podcasts. And it's like it's fun, but podcasts only relate to you if you can relate to that person.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

If your daughter's ever having one of those, I might be embarrassed moments. Reminder One time Ryan thought that he could have maybe made it to the NBA. And this was at the time when he was in eighth grade and he went to do a shot, and the shot went all the way over the backboard and his box and his and his shorts fell down to his ankles at the same time. That's not an NBA bound.

Would You Rather: Motives, Truth, Purpose

SPEAKER_02 22:29

No, I remember though. But again, we had we had a dream and we had two feet on the ground, man, and we got up and all we did was work our ass off. Every second of every day, we were playing some type of sport until it was dark outside. We were just so active all the time.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

In our minds, we thought we could have made it to the WWE because we practiced like three, four, five, five hours a day in your backyard with a mattress. Religiously.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Chairs, ladders, all the shit that you can't even imagine kids doing now. We jumped off of roofs, onto grounds, onto mattresses, onto trampolines. We threw each other off of decks, off of the tip top of garages. I mean, this shit would get you arrested these days. Or our parents would. And that was just a typical Saturday for us.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

It would be child endangerment for other people.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

My mom would be laying out tanning 15 feet from us, jack and knife power bombing each other off of garages. And she's like, What do you guys want for lunch? Looks great, babe. Like, I'll take a fucking vertebrae because mine just slipped.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

It truly was an era of not giving a fuck, though.

SPEAKER_02 23:36

It was. But you know what? I wouldn't change it for the world. It made us who we are, and I honestly feel sorry for the kids these days because they just don't know.

SPEAKER_00 23:44

Just open up a daycare in Minnesota.

SPEAKER_02 23:46

It's literally car washes and storage units. Storage units everywhere. That's all anybody's in that's like number one investment right now is storage units. And it's hilarious because, yep, everybody has so much shit they need to put it somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 24:01

But do you know why that is? Because people can't buy anymore. So now people like me or other people who can't go and buy a house right now, yep, they're living in multifamily units with multifamilies. So you have two families in one unit that are split in a four-bedroom or something, and now they need that for storage because they don't have a place to put it.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

Just like I was touching that's why like I was touching base on because it's selfishness, because they're buying everything and saying, Nope, you can't buy it, but I'll rent it to you for double what you could buy it for, but you don't have credit because you're a piece of shit. So you need to give me more money, and it keeps pushing everybody down, and it sucks. It fucking sucks. That's that's the worst. So Roman Reigns took it down for the males, and so for the females, it was Liv Morgan, and nobody deserves it more than her. That girl busts her ass. She deserves it. I agreed with that one 100%. I didn't agree with last year's, because last year I love Charlotte Flair, and Charlotte Flair won it. But what pissed me off is she was gone forever. She came back at the rumble and then won it. And it's like, okay, you have all these other girls that busted their ass, putting their time and effort and injuries and on the road for a whole year, and then she comes back and wins the rumble and then got the title shot. I don't like that. So I think Liv Morgan winning it was fantastic. So Triple H did take the band off of a lot. So you can pile drive now, you can show blood now. They used to take away all of that stuff, and so it's it's coming back to that, but it's just not the same acting and stuff anymore. Chair shots, you can't do headshots anymore. Those are completely illegal because of foley and holy cow, the story's holy foley, holy foley.

SPEAKER_00 25:46

It's insane. I uh I saw the standoff between CM Punk and Roman last night or the night before, and that seemed pretty intense. Do you care to share a little bit about that? I mean, you know a lot about the CM Punk beef, and I just remember hearing that before they worked together, Roman was like, I'm never gonna work with him again. He's the hardest person to work with. He made my job infinitely harder, and now it's like I'll work with him again. Shed some light on this.

Nostalgia, Parenting, Credit, And Cards

SPEAKER_02 26:15

Yeah, so apparently CM Punk. So if anybody follows wrestling, CM Punk like 10 years ago dropped a complete pipe bomb. No, if you don't know what the word pipe bomb means in wrestling terms, he blew it up in terms of there was no more wrestling. It was I'm gonna tell you the truth about wrestling. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, just YouTube it. So CM Punk grabbed the fucking microphone and famously sat Indian style on the entrance and proceeded to spill everything about the truth of everybody, all wrestling, and he blew it up. They cut his mic off, he ran out the back door because they were they were coming after him. It was disgusting. They terminated his contract, he was completely banned from the WWE for 10 years. He went over to AEW and he went over and did all this shit. But he he is a pipe bomb in a half. It's hard to explain if you don't know what I'm talking about. He just blew it up. You know, Roman Reigns name is not Roman Reigns, but everybody's name is not their name, and he exposed everybody and exposed all the cheating, all the all the drama, all the bullshit, and all the wrestlers' jaws just hit the floor and couldn't believe that this guy did this. He ruined families, he ruined, he ruined companies, and it was he's a piece of shit person. He's a piece of shit person, and it and I don't think so, but he did it to everybody else. And that segment you watched last night was so raw and real because Roman was like, I'm gonna tell you how you affected us from you leaving. Right. So when he tore it all down, Roman came in and is claiming that he built it back up himself, him and his family and his friends and all this stuff. But now they're wrestling, so it's hard to explain. If you're not a wrestling fan, you know, you hate each other, but you work with each other. So it's like imagine somebody you absolutely hate, and now you have to sit in a car with them, and then you have to work with them in a ring and you hate them.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

Would it be too far-fetched to think that that whole thing still could have been staged? Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

But there's like if but no, because I'm such a fan, I've gone into so much depth in it. Is it was not just look it up. The pipe bomb was incredible. He single-handedly tore the WWE to the ground. All right, so now we're gonna go into our opinions of the best Sony PlayStation 2 games. Top three. Ryan, what do you got?

SPEAKER_00 28:43

I'm going to guess one of yours is Resident Evil.

SPEAKER_02 28:48

It's actually not. It's actually not. Because I think when we got old enough to play on the PS2, I was over watching you guys play that game as a movie. That was kind of just a nostalgic kid thing. This was actually us being like, wow, we're about to play, and it's on the list. Madden. Madden for PS2 was deep, in depth. It was fun. The graphics were great at the time. I would say the graphics were great even to this time. The PlayStation 2 Madden, they finally exposed everything and they let you do everything.

SPEAKER_00 29:20

This was the first this is my number one, actually. That was my number one. Madden was 2005. The reason why, two reasons. They had goat mode. Do you remember that? 2005. Was that Ray Lewis on the cover? Yes. And that's the first year of the hit stick. Hit stick, baby. That was the juke. That was the defensive version of the juke. That was the game changer for Madden.

SPEAKER_02 29:43

100%. That was the flick. When you got to flick the stick and you were pissed because you could do it too early and look like a fool. And just whiff. Or you hit it perfect and it was Fumble City every time. Those hit sticks were way more violent than what they have now. Oh, yeah. Like I said, I didn't even, I don't play Madden nowadays. I guess I haven't, I just don't get into it. I just, first of all, I I would rather not get my ass kicked by a seven-year-old in Madden anymore. You go online, these kids are like, they're running plays that I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00 30:17

And worse about it, they talk so much shit. And it I there's never a time that I just want to dropkick a seven-year-old. I couldn't, I I couldn't imagine playing these days. I I couldn't do it. Could you just imagine being down 52 to nothing hearing this kid going, get shit on, get shit on, and then run circles around like we did in Joe Montana's sports talk football. He goes, Your ass. Your ass. And you just you want to break a controller.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Couldn't even imagine it. It's why I don't play video games anymore. I just I just like to talk about the old ones.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

So we both listed a little so we both listed our number one at the same time there. So I'm gonna jump into my number two then and take it from there, and that's gonna be the Grand Theft Auto series. Oh, Grand Theft Auto. It's still going, and number six is supposed to break the internet. November 9th is the official release date. They just said it today. Official release date, November 9th.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

They said this open world concept. I I've just read so much stuff about it. This open world concept is unbelievable. They said this game is going to literally quadruple sales of any game ever made. And that's Madden, that's that's fucking Pokemon, that's fucking Mario. GTA 6 is supposed to change the world. What the fuck? And that's the goal is we would eventually like to build up this podcast where we're we're doing things outside of the studio, we're doing things on scene, we're going to a football game, we're going to a wrestling match, we're going just driving in the fucking car. We want to be able to present things to you guys, not just in the studio, and bring on some good special guests.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

And that's literally everything you're going to be able to do inside that video game. Yeah. Which is crazy. It's like it's like sim. It's stupid.

History Repeats: Sports Cards And Value

SPEAKER_02 32:07

It's but it's one of those this is stupid because uh everybody's trying to get their kids to stay off of social media, and I understand that too. But I'm sitting over here trying to get my wife and my daughter to create a YouTube channel because they are so goddamn funny, and together they could do so many fun things. And my wife buys everything on Amazon and could easily be an influencer with clothes and candles and all that stuff. And it sounds crazy because she went to school to be a packaging engineer and she is phenomenal and makes great money, but she could blow her salary out of the water by just turning a fucking camera on her and being her. And that's why people are not gonna go to college and not gonna follow through with shit in the future because there's so many easier ways to do it with topics and things that you like. So go with your number two. What is your number two? Number two, I would probably ah, what were we talking about? What was what did you do? Number one, we've been mad.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

Honestly, I feel GTA series.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

I feel like the Madden on the PS2 was the best Madden ever. Like ever. And I'm not a PlayStation guy, you know that. You were a PlayStation guy, and then I got to be Xbox, and then when we they joined together to do teams, you came to the Xbox side. It is because I didn't like PlayStation as much. But holy cow, the in-depthness of the PS2 was insane.

SPEAKER_00 33:29

My number three is Need for Speed Underground 2. Great choice. Yes, customizing those cars, making every little detail. You get different skins to put on it with the different and then the NAS, and you could deck it out and race a whole bunch of different people. We spent probably hours, probably 10, 15 hours total just playing that with me and the friends. Like that was definitely a stable point was need for speed. It was the lighting.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

Like you put on the new spoiler, and the lighting was phenomenal. You put the you put the new tires and rims and the glow lights underneath piss the cops off. Yes. We're gonna race against the cops. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

But that but when it comes to it, that was probably also the last racing game I played.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

So yeah, believe it or not, I'm gonna go a direction that's not sports. And this is a funny one because I bought this game for my business partner. He's an old school guy that just loves the games. It was Ratchet and Clank. And this was back in the PS2 days. I bought this for him for his PS5, so it's still currently going. But Ratchet and Clank, a little bit of a fun little kid game.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

Yeah, it was a little quirky. It's kind of one that was kind of like Spyro, kind of like it was the same concept of like a Mario where it was, you know, it was a map and you had to go through different obstacles. Ratchet and Clank was really fun, though. You had little guns and you had like bubble guns. Yep, and you get to double triple jump and you get to collect all the nuts and bolts. Yes. That was fun. That was fun.

Movie Quote Challenge And Next Week’s Tease

SPEAKER_02 34:58

And then for my last one, I'm gonna go with Gran Turismo 3. Now that was similar to the Need for Speed, but Need for Speed was kind of more cartoony and you could kind of I don't know what's the word I'm looking for, customize and be all I don't know what the word I'm looking for. I'm looking for NFL versus NFL blitz. And that's the difference. Gran Turismo was realistic cars, real situations. Need for speed was more. How do we say this? It was it was badass racing on steroids.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Yeah, it was like it was almost like you got to mix a little of what rally car was like, but with street. You got to do cool jumps that would never be able to be possible with real cars. Yeah, you know, where in Grand Turismo, you you hit a little bump and it could throw your whole car in a 360.

SPEAKER_02 35:45

It literally is Madden to Blitz. It is because some people in the car world or like NBA jam to NBA Live. Yes. Like some people love the the caricatures and the cartoonies, and some people love the real life. And so I think Gran Turismo was more real life, and Need for Speed was a lot more cartoony with energy. All right, so that is covering the PS2. So you already know what we're gonna do next week, guys. We're covering the PS3. So with that being said, God, fuck my life.

SPEAKER_00 36:18

I went almost the whole time. That was only one, my man.

SPEAKER_02 36:21

I'm glad the whole we have a with that being said counter on this podcast. So if you're an original OG, so once we get into episode 612, you're gonna be like, wow, that guy says, with that being said, all the time, and we're just gonna straight up tell you we got a counter going. And every time Ryan says it, he tries to catch himself every time. It is hilarious. It's almost like when a politician says, Let me be clear.

SPEAKER_00 36:47

They say that like every time.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

Or if you ask a politician a question and they don't answer it and they beat around the bush.

SPEAKER_00 36:53

Just let me be clear here.

unknown 36:55

Okay.

Sign-Off And Dedication

SPEAKER_00 36:56

So my three, would you rather? I'm gonna start with the first one. Would you rather change someone's decision one time or see their hidden motive behind every action?

SPEAKER_02 37:11

See their hidden motive. Because I feel like everybody in the world right now has a fucked up motive. And if you could literally walk into a room and be able to see exactly what everybody like on their forehead, what their intentions are, you would want to never live. I I feel like I I I don't even like I don't I don't even know how to say this, but I don't trust anybody I walk into a room with anymore.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

That's probably why I would actually do the change the decision one time. Because yes, that you'd know all of that, but let's say I and you disagreed on something, and I thought morally it was wrong, and you thought it was the right thing, I could get you to change your mind the one time. Yep. That's good. I see where you're coming from. My next one would be would you rather never lie again or believe every lie told to you? Never lie again. Never lie again, for sure. Never lie again. I would just never lie lie again. So if the wife comes up to you and says, This is the life I live, honey, my wife hates me because I'm so honest with her. Have I put on a few pounds? Yep. Honey, do I look ugly in this? More than a few, and yep, hideous. Dude, that's literally me though. But that's why you Honey, if there's anything in the bedroom that you could change, what would it be? You wouldn't just go, nothing. Nope.

SPEAKER_02 38:36

Nope. I'm I'm that fucking honest. And anybody listening to this that knows me personally knows that. It's you lay it out there because all of a sudden you start lying, you gotta fucking remember the lies.

SPEAKER_00 38:47

That was just to play devil's advocate. You know what I mean? I wouldn't, I would never lie again. I try not to ever lie anyways. Exactly. You know what I mean? Exactly. I think about Jed and I talk about that all the time. But like when my son goes, why isn't so-and-so here? If there's a reason that shit he shouldn't know. Like now, kids, kids are a whole nother thing because you can't lie.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

All we do never lie again. All we do is lie to our kids. From the second they're spit out of that vagina, you fucking lie to them. No Easter Bunny, no Santa Claus. We make up all these lies. I literally have this conversation with my wife all the time that I hate lying to my daughter, and that's all we do. Every parent has lied to their kids till they were 18 or more and waits until they're old enough to break the fucking truth to them.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

My next one, my last one would be would you rather have total freedom with no purpose or total purpose with no freedoms?

SPEAKER_01 39:42

Awesome question.

SPEAKER_02 39:45

I literally feel like that you made that for me. I did. Because you don't know how to calm down. Yes, that and because of the kick that we're on now. We're on, we're trying to get the podcast up and moving, we're trying to do more fun things. You and I have worked our ass off to the bone our whole entire life and never had a lot of time for fun.

SPEAKER_00 40:06

Given everything to everyone else. I remember when I first started making good money, instead of doing something smart with it, I took my whole family to Camp Douglas and we watched the Badgers take on Purdue, and we watched Melvin Gordon in one of his last games. And I remember that one of my bucket lists. Where did you say you went? To Camp Douglas, isn't it Camp Douglas? Or Camp Randall. Camp Randall Stadium. Yeah, I was like, Camp Randall Stadium.

SPEAKER_01 40:36

I couldn't follow you.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Camp Randall Stadium. And everybody of my family, you know them, are all Wisconsin fans. I'm a Michigan fan. And I remember that was a bucket list for me to say that I could take my family and do something like that. And so to time to kind of break this all down and just do something for us is weird. Yeah. It's weird. No, I get it.

SPEAKER_02 40:57

I just trust me. I know. Three days ago I turned 40 and everyone's like, oh my God, now you're old. Now you're old. It's like, fuck that. I'm 16. I'm as old as I want to fucking be. Right. And if I take care of my body, I can feel fucking like I'm 12. You know, I want, but I do, I think about that, and I'm like, man, that's why we're doing this. That's why I'm recollecting cards like I do when I was a kid, because I literally worked my ass off, and I still do, and I forgot to have fun. I forget to have fun because I get so much on my plate, and I'm a people pleaser and I want to help everybody. And it just gets to be so much. And then all of a sudden I realize I'm sleeping one hour a night because I'm go, go, go, go, go. And then on top of it, I feel like I push and neglect friends away because all I all you got to do is work.

SPEAKER_00 41:39

Oh, we're always here, brother.

SPEAKER_02 41:40

You know what I mean though? But it's it is, it's because it's like, wow, you work, work, but but at the end of the day, you have to work because you have fucking bills to pay. And that's what sucks is you have to find that happy medium. And I have never found that happy medium. I'm 40 and trying now to find that medium.

SPEAKER_00 41:55

But at the same time, it's ingrained in who you are because as right now you're trying to have fun, but at the same time, it's we need this, we need this, we need this, we need this. This is on a schedule, this is on this, and you push yourself to be purpose in everything. So, with that being said, would you rather have total freedom? With that being said, count number two. Fuck, I did it again. Total freedom and no purpose. Oh, yeah, I know that question. I don't even know if I have an answer. Or total purpose and no freedoms.

SPEAKER_02 42:24

I would say freedom with no purpose. Would you? Yeah. Just because the other side of it is how I think I've lived my life, and that other one is how I lived today. And today specifically, because I have Wednesdays off, so I do not work. That's why we do this podcast, guys. We know that there's not a lot of people watching or listening to us right now, but it's only gonna get better.

SPEAKER_00 42:46

This was how we lived literally since we met each other when we were four, five years old. Junior kindergarten. 36 years of friendship. And there was a summer where we would wake up and we could our parents had to put a time on when we could call in the morning. Because we would wake up at 8 9. Bring us there, let's go here. And we had it was 10 o'clock in the morning. And I still remember your mom's mainline number.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:16

I have yours too, 3645. 5689. Yep. And I still remember that because for a day, every single day, in a box, I would box for seven, eight years because we didn't have cell phones. Yep. And we would, I would just die, hey, want to play? Want to this? And it's like no such thing as cell phones back then, guys. We had to seriously pick up a landmark. This is exactly how we were then, except we're just now old. Older. Er. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

But that's what we do. And we've never really got to be us. I've always had to be a person. I always had, you know, I've I live, eat, breathe, and sleep my job. I committed hard at a very young age. And now I can take a deep breath now that I've retired from bodybuilding. Building and I'm not competing anymore, I'm putting all that energy into stuff like this. And that's why I'm just having a blast with it. And I'm not stressing out about it or trying not to as much. Right. Because it's just kick your feet back and have a good time. The people that are listening want to hear us real and raw.

SPEAKER_00 44:15

For me, I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the other side of you on this one too. And I'm gonna go total purpose with no freedoms. The reason why, I think oftentimes Jesus, when when this question comes up, how how Jesus every single day was on a path to do something for humanity. He never did anything for himself. And for me, I not that I'd ever want to be in that category, but man, what a life that must have been to be able to give yourself to everyone else. And so knowing that we do that, we're tired of that. But at the same time, you look at that and you think, I can I can do more. When you see what he went through and you go, I can do more. Oh, of course. I can do more. Absolutely. And so that's what probably makes us stay away from having total freedom and always want to do something with purpose. Yeah, it's hard.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

That's why you literally have to take that question. You need to live 50% of each side. You have to, because if you're the extreme to one, you're homeless. And if you're extreme to the other side, trust me, I've lived that life. That's why I would never choose that answer. We went like two years without still talking.

SPEAKER_00 45:23

Just picked up the phone because of nothing.

SPEAKER_02 45:25

I'm so frickin' busy. I open up business, I run, I run all this stuff, I have this crap going on, and it just consumes me. And so that's why it's uh this is a this is a great question. It's a great agree to disagree because I feel like you've lived on the side I'm taking, and I've lived on the side you're taking.

SPEAKER_00 45:41

Well, when I was younger, I had I had Maddie Young. So we got to do a lot of more of what was fun. And when we were making good money, we got to go to the Dells and go to all of that stuff. And so I I lived more of the 50-50 because I felt like I was taking on everything. So let's go have a lot of fun because we're making good money. The only problem was when you don't think like this for eternity, then having no purpose ends up catching up to you.

SPEAKER_02 46:10

Just open your TikTok and go to a search engine and just literally see your Explorer page. That is what scares me, because that is what complete give upness with no purpose is. This generation's kids of TikTok and social media because they literally just fight for followers and they fight for likes, and they are not happy with themselves if they don't get it.

SPEAKER_00 46:35

Can I give you one genius father tip?

SPEAKER_02 46:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:39

Not saying she'll ever do this, but you know, kids, they always tend to try to do something with their friends that us parents really wouldn't like them doing. Yeah. Right? With us, it was probably trying our first shot or something at a young age, right? My daughter took a bottle of liquor from somebody's house. We caught her, we brought it back. I grounded her for nine months, ten months, something so astronomically long. That she'd never forget it. Yes, but then I went up and I got credit for dummies from Barnes and Noble.

SPEAKER_02 47:09

You told me this when we met for a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 47:11

Dude, she's got a 750 credit score. She's got five grand in the bank. She knows I can't spend this much of my credit card, even though I have 500. I can divide it by my APY and figure out I can't go over this for a dollar for a dollar amount, or else it's going to report negatively. She's so advanced with it. That is so cool.

SPEAKER_02 47:32

And then to as a dad, that should just make you smile. It does. We see some of these kind of shitty kids. Yeah, they don't have the best upbringing. Right. Not that we had the best upbringing either, but we didn't have it bad at all either. We really didn't. And we didn't have all this shit to distract us. We distracted ourselves. Yeah. I mean, I'm 40 and my ADD has turned up even more than it was when I was a teenager because of what's available. Right. So that's why I don't jump on these kids because you got to remember, we're the last generation before the internet. Right. When we die, nobody will ever talk about life before the internet. I know. That's fucked up. That's that got brought to my attention. I was like, oh my God. That's crazy. We are literally the only people that understand life before the internet. So these kids up and coming don't realize how good they have it just because we didn't have it. But now our grandparents go, you don't know how good you have it compared to how we had it. It's going to keep evolving. Everything is evolving so fast. Yeah. And now companies and stuff are taking things away from us and trickling it back to us.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

That's why I'm trying to go, okay. If you know that, then you can start noticing the trends that are going to repeat again and invest in those trends. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

Yes, 100%. That's why I'm jumping back into cards and stuff. That book over there is all the shit that I did save from when I was in seventh.

SPEAKER_00 48:54

Pretty much everything that Gary Vanderchuk says, jump on it right away because he's always about a year or two early. Gary Vee, man, he is.

SPEAKER_02 49:01

I have been listening to him forever, and he is spot on with everything. And he single-handedly said by 2035, the card trading industry will be multi-billions. Yes. Multi-billions. Yes. It's so true. And I love that guy. If there was one person I could listen to over anybody, it would just be him. Why? Because he's fucking raw and real. Just like we said, I ain't gonna lie. Gary V ain't gonna lie. He's gonna fucking tell you the truth.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

If I were to guess, because I like to think of why these things happen, if I were to guess, football back then wasn't appraised the way it is now. Now, football is America's sport. Yep. And back then when they were making cards, it was cool. It was cool for a couple bucks here and there. Yep. But now we're looking back at those guys going, they paved the way. We put more value into the history now than what it was back then. You know what I'm saying? Yes, they do. And so now that we're getting into year 100, you know, year 75, year 80 of the NFL, those ones are just going to continue, just like the first car ever made. It wasn't worth that much back in the day. But now, if you had it, I bet it's worth as much as a Lamborghini.

SPEAKER_01 50:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 50:15

Everything's evolving.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

And just think about this, guys. Everything comes around full circle. Everything repeats itself. History repeats itself. Mark that down. History repeats itself in all aspects.

SPEAKER_00 50:28

So the movie scene reenactment, guess of the week, and she goes, Chip, yabona.

SPEAKER_02 50:34

What do you want me to do? Cut it off. Any takers on that one. Guys, the interactions are what we are fishing for with this. Nobody got the last week's one. We understand that it's going to take time to grow. But again, jump on our social medias and let us know if you know what that movie quote is. We're eventually going to have some prizes and things for you. So look out for Super Bowl. We're going to be going to the couple of things. Super Bowl talk for sure. We're going to be talking PS3. We're going to dabble into something with WWE. I will bring up something, and we'll bring up some topic. Stay glued to our socials because what we're going to do is we're going to trickle everything down throughout the week in anticipation to the actual episode. So you guys know the topics that are coming. And we love the format that we're running with, guys. You guys clearly love it too. We love the feedback. The more that you can give us, the better.

SPEAKER_00 51:23

With that being said, number four, I gave that one easy. I gave I knew I was going to do that one. KYBT, baby. See ya. It is dedicated to Bob Dively, passed away this morning. That was my uncle.