What Do Our Favorite Games And Athletes Reveal About Us

We’re back with episode seven and we don’t waste time easing in. One minute we’re locking in our best PlayStation 4 games, the next we’re reliving the exact moments that made them matter: sibling Call of Duty wars, FIFA tournaments that got way too personal, and the kind of controller rage you only laugh about years later. If you’ve ever searched for “best PS4 games” and felt like the lists miss the point, we’re with you, because our picks are about memories as much as mechanics. We get into Uncharted 4, The Last of Us, SmackDown vs Raw, and more, plus why certain genres hit different depending on how you play.

Then the tone flips to pro wrestling as we react to WWE Elimination Chamber. We talk honestly about what worked, what fell flat, and why modern WWE storylines can feel confusing when surprises show up without real setup. We also get into injuries, crowd reactions, and what makes wrestling compelling when it’s firing on all cylinders.

To finish, we drop two would you rather questions that split us down the middle, then we go full sports debate podcast mode with a greatest NFL player by team draft. From legends like Larry Fitzgerald, Ray Lewis, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Lawrence Taylor, and Jerry Rice to spicy modern takes, you’ll want to argue with us out loud. Subscribe for more, share this with a friend who loves games, wrestling, or football, and leave a review with your PS4 top pick and your all-time NFL choice for your team.

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Transcript

elcome Back And Quick Rundown

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Episode number seven. We hope everybody is Seven Eleven. Seven. And we probably have seven viewers. Maybe eleven. Including our parents.

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est PlayStation 4 Games

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All right. So let's go through the topics. We're going to run through. You guys know how this works. We are knocking out Sony PlayStation 4. We're just going to keep going with five and six and seven and eight. It's just going to keep rolling. So we're going to cover the. Then we're moving into Nintendo. Moving into the Nintendo's. So the best Sony PlayStation 4 games we're going to cover. We're going to cover the Elimination Chamber, which was a pay-per-view this last Saturday for WWE. We are going to run through some epic would you rather questions. Ryan is on board with those today. And then yes, we are back. And the long and most time-consuming one, and in my eyes, I think it's going to be the best. It's every NFL player that you think is the best from each team. I did have to look for a couple because there was like, I'm like thinking of like, it can't just be this era. So I did have to ask for a little help. Our era was just the best. But our era was the best. I know. And so it's going to be fun to go back and forth because we did not discuss any of this. So we hope you guys listening are going to do the same thing as soon as we say the team. Boom, you're going to jump right in and I got to stop clapping. That's my thing. I need to do like the thing I do for my daughter. If she gets something wrong on an assignment, she owes me push-ups. You know what we need? You know what we should do when we get the cameras? Dude, we need to have a shocker for each person. So if we do the thing wrong, I get to shock you. I'm in. I'm committing. I'm game. I'm in. I'm game. So tomorrow or even tonight, we jump on Amazon and buy a dog collar. Like a dog shock collar. That's like, but something that you're like, like it fucking stings. All right, so let's go into best PlayStation games. Now I'll knock out the first one and no, it's not going to be Resident Evil for everybody or anybody that follows and understands where Resident Evil talk. I am going to go with SmackDown versus Raw. Now, you do notice I didn't put any of the Smackdown games on any of the PlayStations, but they're they were my favorite game. I just kind of put them like a side games. They just have the next one, the next one. So I this is where I'm going to pull out Raw versus Smackdown or or the next big thing. Do you remember that Rock Lesnar on the cover? That was one of the best SmackDowns. So I will say the SmackDown series. And I haven't brought up Call of Duty too much. No. But this is kind of PlayStation 4 is where I got it into it with all my little brothers. My brothers Logan and Josh and Dylan. And my brother Logan was so good that he would keep making up new rules. Oh, if you get more than 10 kills, you get to keep the controller. And then we finally would get to the point where we'd get 10 kills because he'd be at like 18 to 20 kills. Like he would just mop the floor with us and hold the controller for an hour. It was annoying, but great time. Call of Duty. That's the best part about it, is it's nostalgic at what it brings back. It's memories. Call of Duty number two. It was speaking of video game memories, Civil War. Honest question to you. How many controllers did you go through in your career? Which is currently going. The career ain't gonna be. Yeah. No, that happens. That's a real thing. It you know, a lot less when they're wired. But I will tell you, I I don't think I'll never forget the first time you threw a controller. And I just was like, what the fuck was that? And I just remember we were young, man. We were like 10. But I just remember you throwing. I've and in the reaction and an action, I'm like, I've seen you smash Sega Genesis controllers. I seen you chuck a 64 controller. You were a PlayStation guy, so I can imagine you get through one of them. So do you remember when I lived in Roberts? You need to make a wall of fame with pieces. Do you remember in Roberts? So that I lived in Roberts. Do you remember that? Okay. Behind that was a cornfield. And there's at least three controllers in that cornfield. Run out there and just throw it. So my brother Dylan and Logan both lived with me. We would have FIFA tournaments. Oh, yeah. Soccer tournaments. And they were so good. They would always beat me because it would be like if they played Madden. You know what I mean? Like that was their game. That was their game. No matter how good I was getting, and they would get so cocky and they'd go, yep, there's another goal. And it's like, you know what? Put some fucking cleats on and go play the real fucking game. Now we'll see who's better. They would school me in soccer, not in football, but in soccer. And I just remember losing like five-nothing. And I opened the door and I went, well, and I just chucked it, and they all just started laughing at me. I I get it. I get it. All right. So you what'd you choose for that? Did you? I said Robert Sudden, you said Call of Duty. I almost was gonna be like, did you choose FIFA? Yeah. But FIFA was FIFA is like that's another thing. And like and the the the EA like leads by soccer. Isn't soccer like the one that leads, and then every other one is like, oh, if soccer pulled it off, we can do it. Yeah, yeah. Like the frost engine and stuff like that. I I heard that soccer is like the leader. Yeah, yeah. That's so weird. And it's just weird to us, or at least weird to me, because soccer to me is such a world sport, but in America it's football, man. Like, you know, so I don't think about soccer. It is weird because the world, the billions compared to our couple hundred million. Yeah, and our couple hundred million are going yeah, yeah, soccer fairies. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Put on some cleats and pads. All right, so my second game, I'm gonna go with Uncharted Four. Now we've had the Uncharted one, two, threes, all this, but the Uncharted series was the probably the reason I played PlayStation. I I think I literally went out and bought the PlayStation 4 or 3 or whatever one it was just to play Uncharted. Because that game in third person was my favorite. You were you were all good in your first person. I don't know what it was. I don't know. It just it's weird to me to just see a muzzle. I don't know. And it's the craziest games ever. Those are the most popular games ever. Because for me, it's like your view. That's your view. I can't see the back of my head in real life. So I get it, and it's crazy. I just can't get it, because Jen does it too. She everybody loves first person. Yeah, I suck at them so bad. But if you give me a third person, like a if a Mario is out there, I'm like, yeah, I can see Mario. I don't know what it is. Like I can all right. So Uncharted 4. So if you love action and adventure games like just one player, because then you can't play multi on that, that's a fun adventure game. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I'm gonna go with the PGA Tiger Woods. They when Tiger went on his run and they made a video game about him. With the analog flick? Yes. Yes, yes, and that's played that a lot. Yes, we did. And and that was yes. So we played a lot of of golf games. That was good calling. Heck yeah. Because that was that was awesome. Hell yeah. Yeah, great one. Great one. Okay, so my last one, that's so weird. I just said that is The Last of Us. Do you did you ever play any of those? I did not. They're like, they're like scary movies. They're the whole reason I watched you guys play video games. I don't play it very often, but the move, like you said, the movie scene in that one game was like 71 minutes or whatever. It's like that. You just have a scene, but it's almost like watching Nightmare on Elm Street or a Jason or a Chucky or something. I don't know. I feel like I'm watching a horror movie, and those games are like crazy popular. Like I guess they're crazy popular. Yeah, I never played. I've I never played the scary, I never got into anything scary. Not scary. Movies, not like it.

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Yeah, I just never did. I met my thing. I love the dark gothic shit.

ottery Versus Lifetime Poverty

limination Chamber Reactions And Frustrations

verweight Or Skinny And Weak

reatest NFL Player By Team

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I don't know. It's weird. I just I don't know. I love that stuff. Yeah, I like that. All right, so your final game, because we don't want to skip that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My final game would have been Madden 2004, I believe, is when they first came out with the Madden tournament when you could win money. Do you remember that? Yes. And we do you remember like getting online and playing? Yes, but do you remember they actually had a tournament at like the stadium? So yes. And you could go to the stadium and I lost first round, but I went. And do you remember all the local Walmarts even were doing mini tournaments because it was so popular? Yes, I do. This is it's it's yes, it's right on the tip of the city. And it was the Madden tour. Yes. And you could you could win. It took a bus. Yes. And then the final was at like Madison Square Garden, and you could win a hundred thousand dollars, which at the time was so demoralating because a doctor would go to school for like 12 years and be lucky to make a hundred thousand out of and you got a gamer who just made a hundred thousand dollars. 11-year-old punk kid that rolled out of bed and just forgot to brush his teeth. It made everybody just like, oh, I want to play. I think I remember that phrase. Yes. Great call. Oh, that was a really good one. All right, so go into another would you rather question. The second would you rather? Would you rather hit the biggest lottery ever and die a year later? Or live in complete poverty, never to rise, no matter how hard you tried forever. Oh man, that is a fantastic question. I'm going with number two. Because I've lived in poverty, so I know I can do it. Sure. Sure. And I've I'm the heart and the will I have as as a person will never quit. Sure. It'll quit when God tells me it's time to see him. Sure. If I know I'm dying next year, money just doesn't yeah, I could go do what? Something that could end up killing me anyway. Sure, sure. Sure, I get that. I'm gonna take poverty and and live in as long as I can. I guess. I guess we split on this one too. This is good though. This is where I'm gonna do it. And all of my family then, I mean generationally are taken care of. And like at the end of the day, you as a parent, you want to take care of your kids forever. Like the the goal is no matter what, when you die, they don't have to suffer when you're not paid. And they have a better life than we and now I can just do that for multiple generations. It makes me feel like I won. For sure. I know that the only having a year left would really suck. I do get that. And it almost seems, but the hard thing is your whole family would not want you to take that. I know. But my whole family would never have to show you. I know, I know, I know. But yeah, that's a I mean, that's a great, that's a that was a great question. Yeah. That's a great one. Great thinker, great thinker. All right, so any WWE fans out there, there was a PLE, or I'm always gonna say pay-per-view, on Saturday. It was the Elimination Chamber. Awesome event. I absolutely love the pay-per-view. The event itself is always cool. Our good friend Tiffany Stratton was in it and involved in it, so she's back on scene, so we're always loving that. Overall, before we kind of dig into it a little bit, I'm gonna give it a six, maybe even a five out of ten. I hate the way everything is going right now. The the storylines are terrible, they're bringing in terrible people, the the pops are bad. There's no, and as a wrestling fan since I was 10, like I know, I know the ins and outs, and the storylines are just bad. The wrestlers are bad, they're cutting people. Something needs to happen. I've been hearing rumors of possibly Vince McMahon coming back and trying to help because it's it's it's rough as a wrestling fan. I I hate it right now. I still watch it and I'm always going to, but I hate it so bad, and all I can do is sit back and be like, let me help, let me try to do something. And I, you know, that's obviously stupid, but but the chamber itself was just a rough pay-per-view. They brought in a new guy that nobody knew. They hyped this guy up and made a huge like surprise, like a Y2J or like a gold burn. Nobody knew who the guy is. I don't know who the guy is. I've never seen him. He's some overseas wrestler, and no pop, the crowd was so disappointed. There was just so many botches, too, and I hate using the word botches, but it's just it's not becoming entertaining, it's becoming more entertaining to see how bad they are, and they're messing up so bad. So they're not introducing these new people as do you remember when the brood? Yep, when the brood came, yeah, and how they started with the lights turning down low and then coming on red. Yeah. So they tried to do that with a guy. I don't even know his name. I think it starts with a D, but he's dressed up almost like Vampiro. So they do you remember Vampiro from WCW? Yeah, so they brought out this coffin. Like it's Oh, I saw that. I saw that. And it opened, and then like some ladies came out, and then he came out, but he looks like a vampiro or an insane clown posse member. Right. And the crowd just died. Nobody knew who he was. They're running a storyline now with this mystery man that always comes out, and they caught the mystery man and took his thing off. That was a couple weeks ago. Well, they another mystery man came out, and then they got him, caught him, and they don't know who it was. Now, another mystery man came out last night, and it was so fucking stupid. It's just it's so disappointing the way that everything's going. The winner of the female elimination chamber was Rhea Ripley, and she's my favorite wrestler in there, she's my favorite wrestler over all the guys right now. I absolutely love her. And then Randy Orton won it for the guys, which is great because I think he's trying to chase John Cena's championships. He's got 14. Cena had the most ever, 17. Who decides all of that? Or is that a game time decision? No, it's it's all in how much they give to the company. If they're willing to sacrifice, go on the road the most, take the most bumps, do the most crazy stuff, they get incentives like crazy. And and and that's kind of what I figured, but like hearing it from the the horse's mouth, you you get it. Did you see the trouble that Vince got into? Oh, yeah. With Brock, no before the car accident one. Yes. Oh yeah, yeah. That one was the most recent one. I thought you were talking about the No, I was talking about I was talking about that one. He's like doing 100 miles an hour and he like Henry rugged it, but without the injuries. The capcomes. What were you doing? Well, I I saw some lights back there, but they just looked a little funny to me. What the what, dude? You're doing 110. Everything looks funny when you're moving 110 miles an hour. Yeah, Vince. But anyway, yeah, so I I'm I'm pulling for Vince McMahon to come back because there's so many things that they've changed. There's logos all over the ring now, and that was Vince's number one thing. He's gonna need an Uber to get there. He can't drive himself anymore. This is ridiculous. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, the storylines have just got to change. They've literally cut tons of wrestlers. Run wrestlers are getting injured so bad. They just literally, this is the craziest part. They created something, a faction called the Vision. Three of the four members are out with like real injuries. I watched one of the members tear his bicep head in the other night, and it just flopped. And I go, Jenny, he tore his bicep head and he rolled out and they threw up the X. And yeah, he had surgery, I think, yesterday. And he's out. The other guy went to flip an announce table and he pulled a hernia doing it. So he had to keep going through, and then he, after all of it, went to the back and got rushed to the hospital because it was internal bleeding. So he's out. So it's like, oh, and now the storyline has to change because all this members of this group they come together now are really injured and they can't play it off. So storylines are just bad right now. It was it's rough being a wrestling fan right now. I literally watch like WWF 2000 Royal Rumble at night and to bring myself back to that day. Would you rather be very overweight or very, very skinny and weak, like fragile weak for the rest of your life? That is a good one. God, you really did throw that one at me. I was gonna take the skinny one for sure because that until you said weak. Yep. I knew that was gonna that literally was me growing up, and so I knew that was everything you wanted to get away from growing up. Yeah, but then you also train everybody to be not overweight because you care about people's absolutely. I'm still gonna take skinny and weak. Because I I'd be skinny, but I feel like I'm at least nourished enough. People don't understand fat kills you. It's not it's not people telling you that you're gross or trying to cut you down. It can literally kill your organs and surround your heart, and it's like a health factor. But also being super skinny and malnourished is just as bad. And so people think that, oh, what do you want to weigh? Zero? You can't fucking weigh zero. So it is, it's it's a horse apiece. That's a great question, but I'm going, I'm still gonna go with skinnier and weaker. Uh, I guess. I guess because the alternative is the other one. I that's that's my answer. What about you? What would you choose? I think we're gonna split again. Oh, all right. And I'll tell you why. All right, because I think being very skinny and weak and fragile, you like think of just taking a step and snapping something. Like, and you're so vulnerable. Oh my god. I think that's exactly the the American plan right now. That's what they're trying to do to us. I would probably take the the other side just because then also, like, I think of being very skinny and going, gosh, I really can't. I look at food and like I can't eat that. And then I could challenge you by you going to the extent of saying the skinny person is so skinny that taking a step hurts them. What if you're so fat you can't move and you're bedridden? And and I thought about this, right? I did. I don't think there's a portion of life you could be happy with with being that skinny and weak. You you don't you don't even like eating. Yeah. The only thing you would like is what, floating in the water? Yeah. Have you ever oh I just because of what I do, but have you ever seen the TV show where it takes a very, very obese person and very, very skinny and they hang out for a day, but they eat each other's meals. And so the fat person literally eats like two pieces of string cheese, and then this it is an awesome show. Oh yeah. It's actually really cool. But they're both bad. But as very skinny, like you you would be miserable eating normal food. Yes, yes. So for me, I would at least want to. At least you get the pleasure. I want my steaks, I want my gushers, baby. Give me my gushers. I get that. I do. I do I get that because yes, there's so much pleasure in dopamine releasing through food. And yeah, I mean, I'm I'm just dopamine through the skinny side. I know. No, like except, hey, I don't look like that guy. There's always something. You know what I mean? This side is always gonna think different than this side. That's true. Because it it all depends on what scares somebody more. Like, are they okay having some fat hang off of them? Sometimes, and I know a million people like this, that that is such a phobe, they would literally die to never feel that. I'm possibly one of them. I mean, it's okay to straight up say it. It it's just one of those that's such a thing to me that that's the biggest no-no. Which to other people, the biggest no-no would be skipping breakfast or something. So that's why that's why it's crazy because yes, we split every question this time. And that's awesome. That's a good one. Okay, you ready to tackle this one, man? Which one? The NFL. For the most part. All right. You start it. I'll start it. You put it on the page. Okay, so I put it, I put mine in alphabetical order for teams because it was easier to start at A with Arizona and end at the end. So again, we're not gonna spend too much time on this. We'll we'll chat a little bit, but we gotta keep moving because this is 32 teams, and we hope you are just as excited to do this as we are. Ripping and tearing sports talk football. Alright, guys, so we are gonna start in alphabetical order. We're gonna start with Arizona. One more time, guys. This is who we think is the best player to put that uniform on. The Arizona Cardinals. Ryan, who do you think is the greatest Arizona Cardinal? This is such a toss-up. This one is. I'm gonna have to go Larry Fitzgerald. I also went Larry Fitzgerald for the win. Oh man. Aware Falcons. Me? I went Julio Jones. Deion Sanders. I I went to Julio Julio. I went to Julio just because I couldn't go to Dion the same way I couldn't go to Dion with the Niners, and I couldn't go to Dion with the Dallas Cowboys because he was spread. I was looking at the team itself. So I went Julio Jones. You went to Deion Sanders. But Dion was amazing. I love it. I love it. You can pick for Sam Fran and Dallas, you could easily pick other players too there. For sure. For sure. You didn't have ass. Make my list. So yeah, I got it. Just real quick. How does the best cornerback ever not make your list? I know. I know. Because he was spread. If he would have stayed on one team, I would have gone with it. That was just that's just how I was rolling with it. All right, Baltimore Ravens, you really? Ray Lewis. Ray Lewis. And the sad thing is, is the other one for sure, even two, would be number ones on other teams if they're not because Ed Reeves. Ed Reed. Yes. Terrell Suggs. Yes. Oh man, what a monster. All right. Buffalo Bills. This was a toss-up for me. This was hard. Huge Andre Reid fan. I loved Thurman Thomas. Jim Kelly is Jim Kelly, but I went with Bruce Smith.

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Oh, so did I. So did I.

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Because I went statistics and I went, I'm like, he was a beast. That team was just so good. But now I'm just going to have to be different from you, and I'm actually going to put Josh Allen from this era because Josh Allen to me is going to go down as their best player ever. And I love that guy. Yeah. Josh Higley will be my Buffalo Bills pick. All right, Carolina Panthers. I can go the opposite way. I get too. I went Cam. Cam Newton. What? I went Cam Newton. No. Greatest Carolina Panther. Who'd you go with? Luke Heekley. He's there too. Yeah. I went Cam Newton. Luke Keekley. One of the linebackers of all time. Yes. I love Luke Keekly. He got out way too early. Oh, yeah. I mean, smart. But yes. Yeah, I yeah, I thought about that too. But I went, I went Cam. Steve Smith Jr. or Steve Smith Sr. over Cam. Yeah, I went Cam. I went Cam. He just brought energy what he did, but I mean he was a lot. He was Ben Rothesberger, but faster. Like Steve Smith didn't bring that energy. I know. I know. I could have went Steve Smith. But the same way that you didn't. You went with Luke because Luke's. But Luke is a top. I know. He could be a top five linebacker of all time. He could, for sure. He knew people's plays as he was so diverse and white. That's a scratch. Alright. Chicago Bears. Walter Payton. Walter Payton. Yep. You had Mike Singletary close in a two, maybe. Yeah, but you gotta go. Walter. Yeah. Walter Payton. All right. The Bengals. Munos? Munos? Anthony Munos. Yes. And that only came that only came up because there's no Burrow anywhere yet because he hasn't done much yet. But the Bengals were a struggle. I don't think the Boomer Asia. I don't think Joe Burrow's the best player on his team right now. That's why I'm going to go with Jamar Chase. Yeah, Jamar Chase. I think Jamar Chase is the best player on the team. Yeah, and I think so too. Yeah, Jamar Chase is the best Cincinnati Bangle player. I think so too. But now he, yeah, give him five more years, he'll lock everything in, he'll be in there. All right, the Browns The Brown. Yeah. It's Browns Brown. The Browns-Browns. The Browns Brown. It's the Browns Browns. The Dallas Cowboys. Who'd you put? I've got to. I had to put mine down because I had to.

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Perfect example. My answer is I had to. Michael Irving. See, and I put Emmett Smith. Yeah.

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Because of the the records. But yeah, there was See for me, I don't put Emmett Smith in the top five for running. I don't like him at all. But he he leads to the bigger. He had the best offensive line. So I just no, no, I can't feel like that's that's not amazing. But there, I mean, there was Charles Haley was really good with the Roger Starbach? Staubak, yes. Staubak was good. Staubach is very good. One of the receivers that was crazy fast way back in the day, too. I forget his name. Yeah. Anyways. All right, Broncos. I don't like them, but you have to put them. I hope you didn't because it makes it more fun. But I put John Elway. I put Terrell Terrell Davis. That's who I wanted you to put because that's who I liked. Yes. But I'm like Terrell Davis. Yeah, Terrell Davis was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Terrell Davis rocked. Terrell Davis was fun. Okay. Detroit Lions. Really? You can go ahead and go Calvin. You have to go Sanders. Yes, we agree. Yes, 100%. But because you're I'm going to go Calvin because you're going to go. Yep. Yep. But I wanted to know if you no, Barry is their best. But then I look at it too and I go, Stafford's the best quarterback to ever be there and never won anything. I mean, not of all, you know, not to put him in that category, but and in that position, it's like that seems just to never do anything. Same thing. Yep. All right. On to the Green Bay Packers. I'll lead this one. Aaron Rodgers, hands down, is the best Green Bay Packer to ever play. And I went Bret Farr. My wife will not stop texting me. My phone is just vibrating 24/7. Hi, Jack. She sends me reels, unreels, unreals, and I can't I can't keep up with it. It is just unreal. Oh, it's fucking real. Yeah. All right, so let's move to the Texans. Easy. JJ Watt. JJ. Yeah. JJ Watt. What was the four second Andre Johnson? I was just going to say Johnson. Okay. I'll give you another cruise third. We're cruising. Adrian Foster, though. Do you remember that running back? He was very good. He was good. He was very good for that short stint as well. But then you look at Sean Watson would have stayed there and stayed. He was Michael Jordan status moving. Yes. He was so good. He was so good. Okay, so we're moving pretty good. We're moving pretty quick. So let's do that. Let's make our answer and then say what would have been your second. Okay, okay. Because I kind of get into that. That's fun. All right. Next one is Indianapolis Colts. That 100% Peyton Manning. Is Peyton Manning. 100%. But what was your second? Mine personal, Bob Sanders. I loved him as a safety. I love, you know, safety was my position. I loved safety. But Bob Sanders is who I have to go Marvin Harrison. See, and then there's Jonathan Taylor now. Marvin Marvin Harrison. I would have loved to have seen if Marvin would have been good without Peyton. Would you know that's the hard thing? It's you think about that. And you can't say the rice thing because he rice went from Montana to Young. I think Harrison would have been. I think so. I think so. He was a weed. I hope his son can start to produce. Produce. I don't want him to because he's a cardinal.

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But I like him. Yeah. And I want him to do that. We always want the greats, their sons to look, out of all the greats, like he's the one that's got the farthest in this position. He's huge. He's a beast. But I don't know. Is he just scared right now? Or what the hell's going on? I think it's a lot of different things. It was incredible. Yeah, but he doesn't have a great team. His you know what I mean? He doesn't have a quarter. Kyler's gone. He's gonna go to Green Bay. It's gonna take Willis's. Oh man. Kyler's going somewhere. Jackson, Jacksonville Jaguars. Jacksonville Jaguars. This was the hardest one for me. They've got the offensive tackle again, Baselli. Baselli. But again, I'm playing the devil's advocate with it. I'm saying. I'm so biased to Trevor, so it's hard for me not to say. But let's just say I don't say that. I went Ramsey. I went Fred Taylor. Yeah. I went Fred Taylor. Ramsey was incredible down there. And I can't believe he left. He left for the Rams, correct? Yep. And but he was incre I mean he was he was on Fred Taylor was a Fred Taylor was awesome. He was a stupid. Mark Brunel was really good left left-handed core. But I just again I'm looking at it like I think 10 years from now, I think Trevor Lawrence will be that person. He just had an awesome year. So I'm hoping he carries it. My close second was Maurice Jones Drew. Yeah. I loved him. I loved it. I loved him when he popped Junior Sayale, sat him down. See ya. No, Sean Merriman. Oh yeah. Sean Merriman. And I remember that because Merriman shut him up. Was known for sacking and knocking people out. Light zones out. Merriman. He was a stud for a year. Like he didn't what a drop in the bucket. And then Maurice Jones Drew met him in the A-gap and just sat him. Such a good place. Such a good place. For those who don't know, Maurice Jones Drew was like 5'7, 5'8. He was tight. Came out of UCLA. I remember that because he came out the same year that Darren McFadden did, and McFadden was on Arkansas. Yes. And he was a taller runner. I remember that. All right. So Kansas City Chiefs. No brainer. Yeah, that's Patrick. Patrick Holmes. It's he's elite. I didn't even think about it, but I would go Derek Thomas. Ah, that was mine. Derek Thomas is linebacker again. Yeah. Yeah. Derek Thomas. I pissed next to him. Did you? I ran out on the field and I grabbed Joe Montana's jersey in River Falls here when he was a chief. And I pulled, I ran out on the field and pulled Joe Montana's jersey, and security grabbed me. And I didn't think anything of it. I was trying to say, hey, you need to come talk to my mom. And security pulled me over. My mom was so embarrassed. And it was right next to Elvis Gerbach, who was the backup at the time, and Derek Thomas. And I had Derek Thomas sign something of one of mine at I don't know where it is now, but we were like 18, 19, and they again they were coming out of River Falls training camp. And he was at a and at this time he was on his way out of his career. So he's not, you know, he was he was kind of fizzling up. And we were at the movie theater. And I remember I went in and pissed, and I looked to my left, and he's all decked out in all Kansas City gear. And I was like, and I walked away and on the back it said D Thomas. And I went, I just pissed next to Derek Thomas. I have so many weird stories like that too. I have pissed next to so many people. Like, and I turn and look over, I'm like, wait a second. You'd think I'd be making the stories up, but not to get sidetracked. Let's move down. Las Vegas Raiders, Los Angeles or Oakland. They're gonna be the Oakland Raiders to me forever. To me. The Las Vegas just sounds like turds. This one was a little bit of a split for me. I went with Tim Brown, but the close second was Marcus Allen for me. Charles Woodson. Charles Woodson. Charles Woodson. That didn't even that didn't even ring a bell when I was thinking this. Great one. He's like my favorite corner. Him and Dion are my two favorite corners. Charles Woodson. Yes. Great. I didn't even think about that. You know who what other side? I was thinking Howie Long on the other side. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, no. Charles. Good old Charles Woodson, baby. I actually would. I would change mine to yours. Defensive Heisman. Yes. Only player to ever do it. Yes. Chargers. That's an obvious one, I think. Yes. Who's your second? Gates. I put Gates in. Really? I think Gates was awesome. Because he I guess I don't think about him like a tight end. I thought about him like a freaking basketball player. Junior Sale. Junior Sale. Yes. He was monstrous. His mustache was incredible. So great. So clutch. The Los Angeles Rams. This one's tough. I put it down right away, didn't even think about it. Me neither, but there's a lot of people that you could put. Oh yeah. You go first. Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald. Aaron Donald. I had to because it was like everything. He was on the block of Dom minute defensive player. Nobody has ever been double-teamed more in his career and still put up those numbers. And with that being said, the close second is Eric Dickerson. Yeah. I didn't even think of a close second. Or Marshall Falk. Yeah. I would have said Falk. I love Falk. Yeah. I just said that twice, by the way. I caught it. Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins. Hold on. Where am I on my list? Dan Marino. Dan Marino. Dan Marino. Yeah. Ooh, wow, good one though. To think who's to. Jason Taylor. Ooh, I would have gone Irvin Fryer. Ooh. Wide receiver. Urban Fryer. Oh, Ricky Williams. Yeah, Ricky Williams. Didn't even think about him. I just bought a Ricky Williams card this weekend and it's him half in a times? Right? He's just smoking a joint. Half in a Saints jersey and half in a Dolphins jersey. And it's and half in a Reggae festival. Yep. Yeah. I loved Ricky Williams games that we're going to do. I just had a conversation about him the other day. Okay, we're going with the Minnesota Vikings. Hands down again. Randy Moss. Randy Moss. In a close second, I go Chris Carter. But there's a I mean, there's Frank Tarkington. There was a Julius Randle was definitely their second best player ever. I don't even know who the hell that is. What? Julius Randle? Yes. Or not Julius Randle. What's his name? Randall Cunningham. No.

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Oh, John Randall. John Randall. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Julius' Minnesota Timberwolves. John Randall. I was like, fuck, dude. He was a horse. Oh, John Randall, yeah. John Randall was just a couple of things. They said he was the number one shit talker. Yeah. He was just like Reggie West. Just the opposite version. Good one. Really good one. John Randall. There's a lot, though, that came. I mean, goddamn, same thing. Jake Reed would have been a one somewhere else. Carter would have been one somewhere else. That's why that trio was sick. And even when Randall Cunningham came into Minnesota, he was still good. He was. And he was a great eagle, but holy cow. Franz Arkenton. Didn't they have what about that defense? Minnesota had that crazy defense in the 70s, too. I don't know a lot of their names. The purple people eaters, but I don't know the guys. And then the 90s, that's when John Randall came and he was like, he was the complete black. Who does that now? Crosby. Yes. Max Crosby. You know he's going to go into UFC? Who? Crosby? I think he's coming to the Niners. He wants to go into the UFC as well. I think he's going to get traded to the Niners. We have just enough cap, and could you imagine him and Bosa? Who cares though? We can't say healthy. What do I know? So New England Patriots. Hands down, Tom. Jeez. Like I would love to have somebody be yelling at the at the We don't even need to go into a close second. There's not even close to a close second. There isn't. Tom Brady. It's Tom. It's Belichick. Think about that. I mean, you can't Tom Brady. Yeah. Tom Brady. New Orleans Saints. Yep. Moving on. I went with Drew Brees. I did too. I didn't pick a second, but now I'll think he could go Ricky Williams there. I know. Alvin Camara. Alvin Camara. I'm on Alvin Camara. Loved his style. Yes. He really dropped off too. He did. God dang it. Well, he got old. Joe Horn was really good. Remember when he pulled the cell phone out? Yes. Joe Horn. They had McAllister. They had a good cornerback. McAllister. Yeah, it's Drew Brees, though. New York Giants. That's a good one. I went with Lawrence Taylor. Same. Yeah. Same. I'd say the best linebacker. Who would you say is the close second? For Giants? Odell Beckham Jr. in his prime. Really? I'm going to go with Tiki Barber. Oh, great one. No, not like when none of us take Filth Sims. He was like a god to them. I just wasn't a big fan, but Tiki Barber, yes, he was the runner that we were talking about. Yep. The New York Jets. Okay, so this was one I was excited to get to because I almost blew it on a couple teams ago by talking about Ramsey being an unbelievable corner. Damn it. Don't tell me we picked Darrell Revis. I had Revis as my second because of Joe Namath. Because of what he did for New York. He called the Super Bowl. But I personally myself would say Revis because, man, no but no. I challenge the listeners. Go back and look at the year that him and Ocho Cinco were going back and forth, and Ocho was saying nobody could guard him. And Revis was the one that was holding every single player to zero catches. It was incredible. It was incredible. He dominated Ocho Cinco. He dominated Calvin Johnson. He dominated Moss. Now these receivers did get him a few times too, but he shut these guys. And these aren't just receivers, these are Hall of Fame receivers. And I don't think he nearly got the credit head. It was called Revis Island. I think he went the whole year with I and somebody prove me wrong. I think he went the whole year without a receiver going over 50 yards on him. It was, it was as a defensive corner, and that's a a saliva dream. That is insane. Because you know that that part is taken care of. You're now playing with three-fourths of a field. As a coordinator, that is a dream. I mean, that's why if you did an NFL draft, I like taking corners first, too. If you can get a guy that like Revis is his own person, but if you've got a guy like a Woodson that you can just be like shut down, you're done. Now you're playing on a smaller field. Woodson was different. Woodson was everywhere. Woodson Woodson was not one field. He was a corner, he was a linebacker. Woodson was they let him. Hey, you know what? This is our defense. Go play somewhere in that defense. Yeah. We'll trust you to just roam. And his instincts. He, him and Troy Palomalu had the same wavelengths of and Ray Lewis was there too. He was crazy in Ed region. But my God, like, what a fun. What a fun one. Philadelphia Eagles. Okay. You want to rip that one? Reggie White. I went Reggie White. Oh, really? And in the close second, I put Donovan McNabb. And the reason I did that is because he did go to four NFC championship games. I think he did go to a Super Bowl. He didn't win. My close second was Torello. That's funny because I couldn't put him, I couldn't do that without giving it to McNabb because I looked at the bigger picture of like Owens was awesome. They did. They went to the Super Bowl that year. He didn't get a freaking ring, but that's a good one. Yeah. But you know who we're both missing? Hmm. Dawkins. Yeah, Brian Dawkins. When he came out with the vibe, like all that. He was vicious. He was the NFC's Ed Reed. I'd love to ask my brother-in-law who he thinks the best Eagle is, being an Eagles fan. Yeah, that'd be interesting. Steelers. Ooh. Me personally, Troy Palomalu, because he's probably in my top three favorite player of all time. But mean Joe Green. Me and Joe Green back in before our time. He was crazy. You ever see those videos? Like every tackle he did is illegal now. Joe Green's who I went with. Troy was my second, actually. Yep. I had to go Troy as my number one. He's I loved him. Yeah. That hair was just sick. Nuts. 49ers. Go ahead. Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice. Yep. Second? Joe Montana. Joe Montana. Go a third there. Tell me a third. Who you think. From I I got mine as a fan, but who do you who do you go? I'm gonna go with I might be saying I might be giving Frank Orr. That's who I was going to do. That's the third. Yep. Frank Orr. But so many people overlook him and oversee him. Frank Orr. Third most lead. And then fourth would have been Tyrrell for me. Yeah, there, yeah, there's a so you then you run a lot. Yeah. Right. It is. Yeah, but Tyrrell's just a freak. I can't. So the Seahawks. Okay, the Seahawks, I went with Russell Wilson. Richard Sherman. Richard Sherman's good one. I wanted Cam Chancellor. Yes. Because I personally loved him. Those two on that. Yeah, yeah. That leads you to boom. And me, I never thought Russell Wilson was ever that great of a quarterback. I thought his defense I thought he was good in his prime. When he came out of Wisconsin and went to Seattle, I was like, oh fuck. I've been hearing about this guy. And then he was kind of he his era coming in though in his prime, he kind of helped get into the running.

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There wasn't a lot of scramble. I mean, Vic did what Vic did, but Vic was his own thing. That was still not a big scrambling era coming in. Then Kaepernick came in and started going crazy with all that. But yeah. That's why I put Russell Wilson. Who'd you put? Richard Sherman. Yeah. Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Tampa Bay. This is what I have my one and my two. I went with Warren Sapp. Me too. And it's funny because I almost blew it when we talked about the Raiders. Yeah. Because he was good on the Raiders too. Close second? Barber. Oh, really? Ronde Barber. I loved him. Did you take it? Did you take Derek Brooks? Yeah. Solid. Again, it would have been the one a great linebacker somewhere else as well, too. But Sap controlled that whole D. Like Sap was Tennessee Titans. That was easy. I got one and two. Me too. Me? Me, my number one, I think, is the same as yours. It might be. It might not be. Chris? No. Chris Johnson? I didn't even put him on my list. He's the best Titan. I love him. He's my favorite. I went with Eddie George. Eddie George is up there. And then I went with Steve McNair. Earl Campbell. Earl Campbell. I went with our McNair. Honestly, I would probably put McNair my number one. He was really good. Yeah, but nobody's over Chris Johnson. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. He had the best season. One of my favorite seasons. I just bought an autographed card of Chris Jones. He's a stud. Yep. Washington commanders to finalize the deal. The Redskins, get it right, fool. Yes. I am going to go Darryl Green. Fastest NFO player in that era. And a crazy lockdown corner. And I'm gonna go Sean Taylor. I had to. Try to guess this one, guys. Hang in there. Think of the scene. They're playing a sport and the team is getting their ass kicked. The other team is absolutely dominating them, and the coach gathers them up. They start pounding on the ground and they chant, It ain't worth playing if you can't win big. It ain't worth playing if you can't win big. Love it, guys. We are so glad to be back. Make sure to check out our other episodes and stay up to date with all our shows.