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Rick Hierro and Jason Enrique Season 1 Episode 44

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The Mets are officially in free fall… and we’re not okay.

In Episode 44 of The 2:00AM Crew, Rick Hierro and the crew break down one of the most frustrating stretches of the season — 14 losses in their last 16 games and getting completely swept by the Rockies.

Yeah… you read that right.

From lifeless offense to questionable decisions and zero momentum, this team has Mets fans feeling swept, broken, and exhausted. The crew dives into what’s going wrong, who’s to blame, and whether there’s ANY hope left to turn this thing around.

Expect raw reactions, unfiltered takes, and the kind of late-night honesty only The 2:00AM Crew can deliver.

Because at this point…
being a Mets fan is just pain management.

Let’s go Mets… (yeah right 😒)

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SPEAKER_07

Our plants are like really like and it does. That's like a weird welcome, welcome, welcome. Yeah, welcome to the 2 a.m. crew. I'm your host, Rick H, joined by Yes indeed, ladies and gentlemen.

SPEAKER_04

Jason Enrique, thank you for joining us on the 2 a.m. crew. This edition, this is episode 44, if I'm not mistaken. 44.

SPEAKER_07

By the way, this photo right here. If that's not a wow.

SPEAKER_04

That's uh Johnny Bravo, apparently.

SPEAKER_07

It's a gorgeous picture, man. Thank you, man. I gotta use that photo for uh some of our content, man. Go ahead. I'm sorry, Steve.

SPEAKER_04

It's okay. It reminds me of uh Johnny Bravo. If he was part of the Men in Black.

SPEAKER_07

It looks good, man. It looks good. I got a similar photo, but not as good looking as that one.

SPEAKER_04

Well, listen, man, no matter how good looking I may or may not be, at least uh you got a family to back up.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, yes, and it is uh it's a great feeling, don't get me wrong.

SPEAKER_04

But um it shows that somebody actually gives a damn about Rick H, which we all do, but that that solidifies it, you know.

SPEAKER_07

It it does, and I'm very appreciative of my family. That being said, I also would still like to look, you know, good, you know. I I kind of want you know, I want my wife to still be attracted to me at the age of 60, you know, or 70, 80, you know, however old I get.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Are you are you familiar with the actor uh Ernie Hudson?

SPEAKER_07

Ernie Hudson, yeah, he was in uh Ghostbusters, wasn't he?

SPEAKER_04

Exactly. So he was on an episode of uh this YouTube show that I like watching called Gym and Fridge, where celebrities talk about what they have in their fridge and how their workout routine. And he was on there because he's 80 years old and he still looks like he's in amazing shape. And he said somewhere in there that you know part of the re uh part of the reason he knew that he wanted to marry his wife is because she liked him. Like he's been with other girls before in his past, they say they loved him, but I don't think that but I don't think you love me. I don't think I don't think you like me very much. So I just want somebody to like me. If you like me, then you understand some of the stupid stuff if I do, but if you love me, you might want to kill me.

SPEAKER_07

I mean um hold on. I'm doing a social media post for us right now, which yeah, sure, no problem. Um yeah, I uh I kinda I want her to still be able to be, you know, like physically attracted to me when I get older. Um because when our kids move out, I you know, I plan on continuing to date my wife. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_04

Absolutely, it's it's it's a beautiful sentiment. So we're how have you been? Uh I'm actually doing okay, man. Um, I'm trying to enjoy this uh weather when I can because one day if it's a little chilly and then it's the next day, it's actually pretty warm. So I don't know which I don't know whether where it begins and ends, but I'm enjoying it. Uh my sports teams, I'm enjoying them so far. Uh the ones that are actively playing. We'll get into all that. And uh yeah, I'm looking forward to the future, even though I've been fooled many, many times.

SPEAKER_07

Now, are you talking about when you say looking forward to the future? Are you looking forward to the Jets' future?

SPEAKER_04

Correct, yeah, because um we've talked about this before and we'll get into a little bit, but I have a lot of confidence in our general manager, but I have a lot of questions about our head coach.

SPEAKER_07

So terrific job uh by Muji during the draft, terrific draft, a terrific job. What was your favorite part? What are you excited about? Which player? What did you feel like they got all the right moves in?

SPEAKER_04

I think so, yeah, because um there's a lot like I I don't have any proof of this, but there's a lot of things that are going on in the atmosphere, in the jet sphere, so to speak, that at the beginning of their tenure with Darren Muji and Aaron Glenn, they were gonna be lock and step. But it seems like Muji has built more equity, more solid uh has solidified his equity and his place in his job. And I think it's a foregone conclusion that it's that the the consensus is that he's actually done his job much better than the head coach, that it's um it they're not exactly lock and step. They're work they work together, but I think that Muji has a little bit more clout than he was given originally when he was first when he first took the job. And um, I think that they uh worked in sync with each other as far as the draft is concerned. I wanted to go full defense with the first uh with the first round, but I do like what they did with the tight end. I like the Sadiq pick. That was actually really good. I just hope that they can really coach him up well. Uh, and uh that seems to me like a Frank Reich um thing more than anything, and then the aggressiveness to get back into the first round and get Omar Cooper Jr., who I haven't done a whole lot of research on him, but uh from what I've seen, some of the highlights, he looks like a fantastic player. And I love the fact that they got an extra uh weapon for Garrett Wilson because last year he was all by himself and he was getting double team, he got no help from anybody. And uh, we'll see about the quarterback. You know, I would say the most questionable one was the quarterback that we drafted in the fourth round from Clemson. But as far as the first the second overall pick, um Bailey, he's we'll see what happens because I like Bailey, but a lot of people were saying that maybe we should have gotten Arville Reese, who you guys got.

SPEAKER_07

Um, I I give the Jets an A, and I think they had a terrific job. Uh again, you just mentioned that getting back into the first round and snatching up Cooper was a stroke of genius. I think obviously that fourth round quarterback is not the future. What uh Muji did is he continued to build on that young roster, and hopefully, next year you guys get your your guy, your quarterback, and you get some answers from the head coach uh this upcoming season. So I think the Jets did a good job. I think the Giants did a terrific job. Um I think so too. They were criticized for taking um Reese, but um in the draft, you take you take the best player available, and and and the two Super Bowls we won was was basically off the pass rush. Yes, Eli Manning played great and he played clutch football, but um you can never have too many pass rushers, so yeah, and I like the fact that they continue to build the offensive line. Um, we'll see how that pick turns out because I'm hearing he's got some back issues, whatever it may be. But um, yeah, we'll see. I think that the Giants did have a I I'm sat completely satisfied with the job that was done. I also was reading reports that this was more John Harbaugh making the picks, yes, and not uh Joe Shane. There's also a report that Shane might be out now during the summer, so we'll see.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. And I'll be very interested to see who they would bring in as the GM or potentially even make Harbaugh the de facto GM, kind of like they did with Bill Belichick in New England.

SPEAKER_07

I I think John Harbaugh's gonna be the NLP all. Like you'll have his guy that works with him uh on acquiring players and and contracts and stuff like that. But I think this is gonna be Harbaugh's team. Just the fact that the the nature of the size of his contract, uh the years and the money and yeah, the cash eight that he exactly like he I he's earned to be uh he's earned this spot that he's in where he's getting multiple years and he's getting to do this uh over a long period of time. So you you were happy with your draft?

SPEAKER_04

I was extremely happy with the draft, uh, especially considering that I didn't really have any expectations, and for them to even blow the doors off of those non-expectations, I'm extremely happy with what they what they did. And I it's funny because I have an uncle who is a uh um uh a dolphin fan. I don't even know how much of a legit fan he really is, but he is a dolphin fan, and he was the first hater to say that we should have gone Arvell Reese, and they screwed this draft up by uh by by drafting Bailey. But that's just hate talk as far as I'm concerned. We'll see what happens. And I don't think he's gonna like it when Malik Millis is running for his life when Dan Bailey is gonna be sacking him like 22 times in the season.

SPEAKER_07

They have they have two Maliks now in Miami. They have Washington and Willis, right? Yeah, so uh yeah, overall I was happy. Uh, what team you feel um obviously not the Jets had a better had a really good sneaky draft.

SPEAKER_04

Hmm. I'm not sure about a uh good sneaky draft, but what I do love is the aggressiveness is what Kansas City did when they moved up and they traded with uh the Cleveland Browns uh to get into the top 10. And I I forget exactly who they're uh who they got, but breaking news, guardians are calling up foreman. Uh never mind, I don't care. And uh but um yeah, I I like the aggressiveness that can't that Kansas City uh displayed in the draft because it shows that they still have Patrick Mahomes, they still believe in their team, they believe in the quarterback, they believe in every everything following all cylinders, and they just want to, I think they want to prove that last year was an aberration. Monty, get over here.

SPEAKER_07

They got uh the cornerback, Delane. Yeah, Monsieur Delane with the sixth pick. Uh I I think it was the Cowboys and and and Washington, and uh, I'm really upset because I'm happy with the Giants draft. But the two guys that we were really attached to before the draft was Styles and Downs, and they ended up in the NFC East, just not on the Giants. So I wait to see how that uh goes about. But I felt like the Cowboys did a decent job, man. You you gotta take the best player available, you might have a replacement to uh Micah Parsons, which I don't think you do. Um but you they did improve their team, so we'll wait and see.

SPEAKER_04

And also, um I would say that the biggest controversial uh part of the night was the Randy Simpson Ty Simpson. Yep. Yep. At 13. Because you can even see there's already speculation that that was strictly a GM move and not a Sean McVeigh move.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, McVeigh's not too happy. Reports are McVeigh's not too happy, neither is um the quarterback. Jesus Christ. Matthew Stafford. Um they could have traded 13, gone down, and still gotten Ty Simpson, and they should have got extra draft capital. It would have it would have looked a lot better optics-wise, but uh Ty Simpson, yeah. Anyways, yeah. Let's the Knicks won, they tied up the series, they returned back tomorrow. A much easier win, they looked a lot better. Kat was way more involved. Um, and I feel like the recipe, as much as people criticize Kat, he is the key to winning some of these playoff series because teams do not have an answer for him, right? Um, and he needs to play like a seven-footer that can take it to the basket, post up, shoot threes, get the mid-range, and be aggressive.

SPEAKER_04

Agreed.

SPEAKER_07

So they survived, and well, I wouldn't they really they spanked that lineup, which yeah, the way that game was played, game four, is what I expected on from the Knicks for all this entire series.

SPEAKER_04

Now, I think it was like 58 to 46 at the half, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

They were up by like 20 something points. Yeah, now I'm not disappointed that Atlanta won two games because it kind of woke up this team. And if tomorrow we see the same type of effort and the same type of urgency from the Knicks, then it it's it's a lasting impression in their minds. They kind of played like Tom Thibodeau was their coach in game four.

SPEAKER_04

Um I I definitely saw a difference. Like there was a fire that was lit up under their ass this time around, and I think that the fact that they got embarrassed in both games two and game three, and it's especially with the sloppy coaching, I think they cleaned some things up and uh I think they're headed in the right track. But you know, they they I think they also really underestimated Atlanta, you know. I think I think I gotta give credit to Mike Brown a little bit because it seemed like in game two and game three, Quinn Snyder was coaching circles around Mike Brown, and he had no answers for him. And I think that I don't think it was a perfect game uh on uh on the coaching, but I think that they did clean some things up and they just need to build that momentum going into game five at the garden.

SPEAKER_07

I I think he improved. Um, I it's still the jury's out on Mike Brown. I'm not convinced, but I I I want to see tomorrow's game, game five, is gonna be the crucial game of this entire series. If they come out playing like they played in game four, then they're gonna put away this Atlanta team. Um, and the Knicks right now, if they're looking at the other series where Orlando's up 2-1, Detroit, who I feel would have given us the most problems, right? Detroit's not looking too good. They're currently losing right now.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

So um not to get too far ahead in the future, you need to come out with the same intensity you did in game four. With all that being said, people must be tuning in tonight to hear me destroy this team right here.

SPEAKER_04

Before you get to that, I just wanted to point out real quick that tomorrow's game uh at the garden, the Knicks are actually a 6.5 favorite. That to me, that's a little bit of a big number because these games have been really close. They've been decisive by like one or two points. Sounds like a trap game.

SPEAKER_07

Except for uh they won game one by 10 or 11.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And then they won game four by wrong. Uh we played Saturday, so let me see. Yeah, we won Saturday by 16.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that was a spanking.

SPEAKER_07

And then the first game was by 11, right? I think it was 11. Right, it was by 11, yeah. Six. I I see it. Six and a half, I can see it's six and a half. It's not that bad. Okay, not that bad.

SPEAKER_04

You know what? It's just a lot of PTSD that I've had as a Knicks fan, you know, that when I see something like that, it's it sounds like it's almost too good to be true.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, again, for me, this is like they've never played in the we're used to now three or four years, they're in the playoffs, they're competitive, they fight, they play hard. For me, this year, this postseason, this playoff. For me personally, I'm viewing it as if they've never been in the postseason, right? And it's like a wait and see approach. Because this is a different team, it's coached by a different personnel, so we we gotta see.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, different personnel, Jace. You still got Rick Brunson there, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

But I'm I'm not uh I think Mike Brown's an outstanding assistant coach. I think he's uh a pretty good uh motivator, I think he's a good players coach, but I don't think he's like uh like I don't think he's a he's head coach material. Like he's it if this was the NFL, he would be a great coordinator. Great coordinator. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's it's not a it's not exactly a great comp, but it's like Steve Spagnola was a horrific head coach, but we all know that he was a fantastic DC. Yeah, now I'm not saying that Mike Brown is horrible to uh of Steve Spagnola horrible as far as head coaching, but at the end of the day, you know where your you know where your bread and butter is. Does Brown have a a championship as a head coach?

SPEAKER_07

Is the Cleveland one understanding?

SPEAKER_04

Not as not as a head coach, but he has gone to the finals with LeBron in Cleveland as a head coach. But they lost.

SPEAKER_07

I know he has with uh he has with Golden State and San Antonio. He has four titles. Three with Golden State won uh San Antonio. So no, he doesn't have a a head coach championship per se.

SPEAKER_05

No.

SPEAKER_07

I mean I like the I'm starting to believe that the reason it took so long to hire a head coach for the Knicks was because Mike Brown wasn't in their top ten. He was on the list, but he was not at the top of that list.

SPEAKER_04

No, it was it's kind of like um, and I uh going back to the Jets again, it's like when they fired Mike Tannenbaum and they had a list of GMs that they wanted to hire and keep Rex, and they settled for the fifth guy on their list, mainly because he was the only one that was willing to keep Rex on as a head coach, and there wouldn't that wasn't even their first choice. And I always thought it was ridiculous that I never wanted coach, uh I never wanted Tibbs fired, but if you were gonna let him go, then I would have preferred, you know, uh like a person that you know for sure was available and would be willing to come to us. Like when that whole thing when you know they were gonna get rid of Tibbs and then try to take Jason Kidd away from the Mavericks, like what are you guys doing? That's not a guaranteed, that's not 100%. So it and that's why I always keep coming back to I think that that was more of a Dolan move than anything, because I think that Leon Rose and everybody else is smart enough not to make that kind of decision.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, I I really felt like it was a move that was done without a plan in place after the firing. Um I I think it was a Dolan decision, I think it was Dolan and the players. Um, I don't think Leon Per se who's also has a great relationship with uh Tibbs was all for that move. Um but we'll see. I mean to his credit, they had a successful season. Mike Brown. It's just I kind of feel like there's more question marks with this squad than before.

SPEAKER_04

I could see that because there were like there was something about the regular season that it was it was it seemed to be successful. They were the third seed and they did what they had to do, but it was if you felt like there was something missing compared to what we saw about with the Tibbs coach team throughout the regular season, there mind you uh not just the playoffs. There was just something about this this toughness, this grittiness, and there was this aura of excitement and this energy that Tibbs was able to instill onto that team, and there was like a slight energy that was missing under Mike Brown, even though they had a technically a successful season.

SPEAKER_07

You know what it felt like? It felt like when you're in school and your actual pro actual teacher gets sick and you get stuck with the substitute teacher for a week or so, uh you're you're gonna do your work, but you're gonna pick your spots and still be lackataisical. That that's kind of what this season felt with Mike Brown. Now, are you ready to discuss my pain?

SPEAKER_04

Yes, from one blue and orange team to another blue and orange team.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, it's it's the reason why the Rick Gates show it's it's is uh has the colors it has, besides it being the New York City flag. Um look, I've Gotten support from Yankee fans. I've gotten uh I've gotten Yankee fans, believe it or not, telling me, yo, this looks awful. I feel awful. I wish this thing turns around. I can't even imagine uh going through what you guys are going through right now. Um, and I've also gotten, you know, the slights. I've gotten a lot more slides, but I have, I'm gonna give the Yankee fans the benefit of the doubt, have gotten uh some Yankee fans saying, hey, this is terrible. Um hold on one second.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Well, I mean, I remember that when they broke the 12-game losing streak and they ended up winning two games, and you were like, all right, well, they still need to win 10 more in order for in a row to get into my good graces. And then they end up getting sort of left. And they said, give me 10. They won two, and I said, give me 10 more. Uh-huh. They you they won two, and you were like, all right, but I need 10 more in a row in order to make up this for this 12-game losing streak that you were lost. In order to even talk about you.

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Right.

SPEAKER_04

Right. And then they go back and they get manhandled by the Colorado Rockies, which, you know, they're they're not exactly the 2015 Kansas City Royals, you know.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, I don't think there's this is rock bottom. This legit is rock bottom.

SPEAKER_04

You guys have the worst record in the in the league right now, right?

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, along with the Phillies. And I'm not taking a jab at Philadelphia.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no. Like it's it's actual like proof.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

The record is what it is.

SPEAKER_07

It is. So along with Philly. Um it's rock bottom because the first of all, you only scored one run in that doubleheader. The pitching did its job. Um, and it's just the way the game, the way they're playing, the way they look, they look defeated. They look super defeated before even the game starts. Um, I got a special treat for you guys in a second. It's just insane. And I was watching the doubleheader. You know, I I was trying to tune in Saturday, got rained out, whatever. I was excited about, you know, oh, doubleheader. Usually we do good with doubleheaders. Uh let's see if they continue to play a little bit better and show signs of life, right? Um what did I call it? I swept them broken. I called this episode swept them broken. Um yeah, it's it has been. I I can't even tell you. I'd rather watch the best team from a few years ago than this team. Because the talent is on the team. It really isn't for on paper. They should not be this bad. And they are extremely bad. Like, I can't even describe their first of all, they look they don't look engaged, they don't look inspired, they don't look like they're fired up, they don't look like they have any passion, they have the body language, like they're all checked out. Um, it kind of feels like Mendoza's uh managing a moral time. I think the players know that. Um they aren't rallying around each other. Juan Soto is not that type of rah-rah vocal leader. We don't have a veteran guy that's gonna be pissed off, and and I think that's the emotion that's missing is anger and and fuel and being pissed off. Um and then the front office, like nothing is said today, no statements, Mendoza was not fired. Um Stearns did not address the media. It's like everything's fine. I I don't feel so. The problem is I don't feel a sense of urgency from the front office, and that's my problem. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Because I think what the Mets mentality is right now, excuse me, is that it's still early in the season. We know that we went through this really bad stretch of 12 games losing streak and everything. It's still very early in the season, it's not even May yet. There's still a lot of games left to play. We will turn this around, this down the third. But what they fail to realize is how they come across. Like, even if yeah, it I don't know if it's gonna get any better than this, but it seems like whatever damage they did is already gonna cause them to miss the playoffs already, and you just don't see that urgency, like you said. I don't we talked about this on the previous episode where there's no leadership, especially with Lindor. Now he's gonna be out for a while with the injuries, so your your de facto leader is is not anywhere to be seen. And uh, it's like who's the next man up? Who's gonna be the one that's gonna hold the mantle? Who's gonna one that's gonna be to carry the torch? And you don't even have that with Mendoza because, like you said, he's on borrowed time, so he's like, Why am I gonna why am I why am I even trying? And and and the coaches it's like you guys have threw up the white flag already before May 1st.

SPEAKER_07

And and the coaches that are surrounding him are not Mendoza guys, right? They they're all David Stern guys, so he's kind of like I feel bad for him. Mendy's a great guy. Um, in a different circumstance, he could be a good manager. I think he's still kind of old school where he feels out the game, he sees how it's going. He's not a thousand percent analytical. Um in the Mets case, I can see a case four, excuse me, for firing Mendoza. In the Red Sox case, I didn't understand the move. And then what's okay?

SPEAKER_04

Go ahead. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_07

And I I want to get your reaction to it. I didn't understand the rule the move because top five manager in all of baseball, any team would want to have him, and you just gave the guy a ton of money to manage a ball club. So why did you fire him the way you did? And he doesn't have this core, Alex Cora, and he doesn't have the same roster Mendoza does.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Um I was uh I was a little shocked because it seemed like the Red Sox they just basically said we had enough because not only did they get rid of Cora, but they let go of eight other different coaches, including Jason Barrett. Yeah, yeah. So they are, I would say that they are angry, they are pissed about how their season is going, and they feel like maybe Alex Cora has welcome uh has worn out his welcome. And I think that there's a little bit of uh um arrogance on the Red Sox part because they've you know won several championships in the last 20 years already, that they could turn it around as quickly as they have before. You know, they've had this stretch where they've been able to be dominant and then they've been crap, and then afterwards to pick up again. Uh so I think they're following a game plan that they've been following, that they've been using for quite some time. And I think a little bit of their arrogance is like they'll they'll get this turnaround quicker than uh sooner than later. And it's all about just finding that right person. They just felt like, you know, Alice Coral, we thank you for your contributions and this, then, and the third, but we're gonna, you know, we're gonna implement some new blood here.

SPEAKER_07

We're gonna find somebody fire you and all your coaches, right?

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_04

But I think I think that's this was done with a lot of piss and vinegar. I think as as much as they want to dress that up in the media that they appreciate and everything uh that they've done for the organization, this sounds like something well. It's almost like when Martin was like, All right, everybody get to step in. That's what it seemed like we're here with the Red Sox.

SPEAKER_07

Well, Koras got the third uh long the third winniest record in Red Sox franchise history, uh, world champion in 2018. Um seems like the city of Boston really adopted him. A lot of the former Red Sox, he mentioned uh Jason Veritek and also David Ortiz, they all uh threw their full support behind him. Um and it seemed like ownership was behind them, but uh it doesn't look like the GM who's running the show now was uh is is an Alex Cora fan. I mean, talk about cleaning house. I I I don't think I've ever seen a team dismiss the manager and all the coaches as well.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, like um, shout out to uh a former guest of ours, Carlos, the uh Thunder and Red Sox fan from Florida of all places. Um, he's a Red Sox fan, and uh I actually texted him when Cora got fired, uh, because we we have that kind of camaraderie whenever something happens with both of our teams, and um he didn't know right away, like I was just breaking news because he was at a music festival, so he didn't know. Yeah, so I had to be the bearer of bad news to him, and immediately was like, Oh man, that's crazy. So I guess Jason Veritek's up next, and I'm like, no, he's gone too. So I don't know what the Red Sox plan is for manager.

SPEAKER_07

The the report was that Veritek would be the uh the interim interim, but it it's Chad Tracy, I think.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, minority. Veritek's gone.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, Veritek was fired, but yeah, you automatically assumed when you saw Cora gone, you're gonna lean on a three, four. How many championships Veritek's got with the Red Sox? I think he's got three. He's like the equivalent of uh a Posada, uh Jeter, uh one of those core uh four core guys for the Yankees. He's one of those specifically for the Red Sox because they hadn't won in such a long time. Um, no, he was gone too. That's what shocked me was like, whoa, I I guess there might have been a conversation with Jason, and Jason might have said, Hey, I'm I'm I'm I'm loyal to to Alex. Now, Alex, excuse me, Alex Korra is one of the best. Now, I'm gonna tell you something, Red Sox. Um, although he's not a fan of Dominican ball players, the man knows the game, he's a good manager, he's a he's a throwback, he manages with his gut and his instinct and what he's seeing. Um he's not a robot, and any team in baseball would want him to be like some of the Yankee fans was like, yo, we'll send you boom, we'll take Alex Cora. Could you imagine what Alex Cora would do with he would get the best out of Dominguez? Uh Ben Rice is flourishing. He would, he would, he would jazz chishm. Oh my god. Because the thing is, that's what I feel. The Yankees, they have again a substitute teacher. The guy that he he wants to be friends, he wants to be liked. Alex is gonna set a standard immediately. And I and I got this on my um on my post today. Well, uh, changing a manager is not gonna change anything for the Mets. Uh, and I was like, well, doing nothing's not gonna do anything at all. Changing the manager changes the dynamic in that locker room, and I'm all for Beltran being the next manager, right? Because I feel like a player that has been there, done that, and has coached, not managed, coached in the big leagues, and already is respected by most of the players in that locker room, is automatically gonna change the attitude of some of those players. And he he's gonna come in there, it's his first job, fresh ideas. Uh, he's gonna be aggressive. You know he's gonna want to manage old school because he's an old school type of player. Uh he'll take the analytics when he can get him. But baseball's a field game, man. If your pitcher is feeling it, you could see it, right? If your infield is feeling it, you can see it. Um where the analytics when Lindor wasn't doing that well. Normally, those are plays that he does.

SPEAKER_04

But everything you just said right now is my issue with Boone.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Mendy goes with his feeling, but I feel like he's a uh not that he wants to be liked by his players, he just he feels like he's in the trenches with them instead of managing them. Like he feels like he's a part of the ball club. Um, and that's kind of a mistake with this group. So yeah, I'm uh I I was shocked that they fired Cora, and then I look at the Mets and I'm like, well, because you know what's gonna happen, right? New York Mets fans, get ready for this. You've you've watched the how long has Boone been the manager of the Yankees?

SPEAKER_04

About nine years.

SPEAKER_07

Nine years. Well, that's what you guys are about to get here in New York City in the Mets side. Uh, David Stern is going to hire a similar type manager who he can give instructions to. Now, part of the Alex Corra thing was that he disagreed with some of the analytics that was coming out of Boston, right? Well, Stearns wants a similar type of situation that Brian Catchman has. Because I see a lot of similarities in these two guys. I feel like Mendy was there, he got the job, and when Mendy gets fired, he gets to pick his guy. And his guy is Kai Correa, which is already he's already in the in the dugout. Um, he's gonna be heavy analytical because he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, and he's going to want to dictate how we play the game and how we do the lineup, and that's gonna rub some of the players the wrong way.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and you know, the interesting thing also is that in any in any sport team, it doesn't matter what the sport is basketball, football, baseball, whatever the case may be, when you have a coach that is pretty much a foregone conclusion that they're on the way out, they're a lame duck coach, you know that they're not gonna survive the season, this then, the third. You would think that you know the players, because they're at the end of the way, at the end of the day, they're the ones that have to make it happen on the field, would show some kind of like support for lack of a better term, or they show that they this is the guy that we want, we don't want him fired, so we're gonna fight for him. We're gonna make sure that we do everything we can in our power power to make sure that he stays with us because we want him to be our manager, we want him to be our leader, we want it to be our captain. And the way that the Mets look so lifeless right now that doesn't even seem that they're fighting for Mendy with their with their actions, they can say whatever they want with their words, but their actions aren't proving shit. And the fact that Mendy pretty much knows all this, and the fact that he hasn't been like it's surprising that out that Mendy still has a job today in core doesn't.

SPEAKER_07

And today's an off day for the Mets, so it's a day, and they're in New York, it's a day that they could have brought him in. I mean, I don't know what happened in the front office. I I looked at the calendar, I was like, the Mets don't play today, they just got swept, they're getting destroyed on the radio, they're getting destroyed in the media. This is probably a day that they're gonna call Mendy and they're gonna have a conversation at best, or the conversation was had, and they probably gave him a timeline to turn things around. I don't know, this is all pure speculation at this point, but you made a great point right now. If the locker room is all for Mendy, you would have seen a completely different effort.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and you'll never be able to convince me otherwise because again, I'm sorry, but bring it back to the Jets when there was that year where everybody thought that Rex Ryan was gonna be fired, but and they were already out of the playoffs, but they uh you know John Ninsig was supposed to choose his next head coach after Reds was gonna be shown the door, but the players were they fought hard enough as good as they can to justify saying that no, this is our head coach, this is who we want to be with. And it was it was a beautiful thing to see. And then afterwards it all fell off the following season. But my point is is that when I saw a team that had nothing to nothing to fight for, nothing to play for, and still fight for their leader, that that says all you need to know right there in any team, in any sport, and I'm not seeing that from the Mets. You know, the it's almost like uh Mendy is with Mendy and everybody else in the locker room, it's like it's not a question of when not a question of what, it's a question of when. Like what is what is David Stearns and uh Steve Cohen waiting for? Are they just waiting to see if Battron is ultimately available or to see if Alice Corps is interested? I don't know what the case may be, but it's I feel bad for Mendy because he's he's a dead man walking, essentially.

SPEAKER_07

So I I gotta take a two-minute break and use the restroom real quick. Sure, no problem. Two things. I think Steve Cohen is completely checked out. I think this is all a Davis Stern call. Um, and I think he's he kind of knows this is gonna get bad. And I think Stern wants it to get to the point where okay, now the fans are gonna give me the freedom to bring in whatever I want here, and I don't think they're gonna do that. I think he's all I think Stearns himself is already on the hot seat as well. Now, I'm gonna I'm gonna mute my video and I'm gonna let Jason uh respond to that real quickly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Well, that's actually a little bit more troubling to hear if not only are they out on Mendy, but they're also out on Stearns. Because this is a guy that you praised, he's the boy genius, he's smarter than everybody, Mr. Harvard, he's the one that's gonna turn this thing around. We're gonna be the smartest one in the uh he's gonna be the smartest guy in the room and he knows what he's talking about, like what he did in Milwaukee. And it just goes to it just goes to show that if they really seem to be out on Stearns as well, then Steve Cohen has to wear this. He just has complete egg on his face, especially when he opened his mouth saying that this is gonna be a contender uh team, we're gonna you know go for championships in the next three to five years. Hasn't happened, it's a disaster. It's almost like it's terrible when I see certain Met fans, whether they're being facetious or not, are saying that they feel much better as Met fans when it was owned by the Will Ponds instead of what they're going to do with uh with Steve Cohen right now. Because Steve Cohen, they they make any other excuse for him. Like, oh, he's more interested in watching the next playoffs because he's at courtside of the garden, or he's more worried about his casinos and you know his stock portfolio, and you know, this is just a billionaire that has a uh a team because that's what billionaires do. He can buy it and he can own it because it's his toy, he can do whatever he wants. Um, and there are and there are owners like that. There are owners like that that basically they just own terrible franchises because that's what billionaires do. But we were a lot of Met fans were sold a bill of goods that things were going to be different, and it's actually gotten worse. And the certain you set the expectations a certain level, and now those expectations are not being met whatsoever. You have the highest payroll in baseball, you get Juan Soto away from the Yankees, you have San Francisco Lindor, but then afterwards you do crazy moves like getting rid of Nimo, getting rid of McNeil, getting rid of uh Edwin Diaz, or and and then um Pete Alonso, and so on and so forth. And then afterwards, they'll all all have ridiculous things like oh Mom Donnie hugged Mr. Met, so that's why we're on this two-game losing streak. There's just so much excuses and so much words being thrown out with what's going on in the Mets. Like it nobody knows in the Mets organization or Met fandom who to point the blame at, you know. So this is all falling on Steve Cohen. It's just a real disaster. And as a pro as a Yankee fan who doesn't necessarily care for the Mets fan, uh for the Mets organization, I'm not a hater. I'm just you know, I don't have any skin in the game. I actually feel bad for everybody involved, except for Steve Cohen. In a way, I kind of feel bad for Stearns. If he's actually on his way out, I definitely feel bad for Mendy because this is not all his fault. And you know, the fans you guys don't deserve this. You really don't.

SPEAKER_07

So you're one of those Yeah, you're you're one of those Yankee fans that uh kind of feels awful. It Is there a small part of you um that enjoys this because of the whole Soto thing? Because Soto, you know, no saying no to the Yankees coming coming to the Mets.

SPEAKER_04

No, y no, because you know, when when Soto left, i uh i I mean, like, okay, it sucks that we don't have soto anymore because I love having him as a Yankee. But Soto has always struck to me as a guy who's a mercenary. I don't think he accidentally I don't think he necessarily went to the Mets because he felt like he could actually win there and he thinks that they have a better future than than the Yankees. He just went there for the money. You know, I that's that's why I never took it to heart about Soto leaving uh the Bronx to go to Queens. I always thought that it was just about the money, money, money, money, money. That's it. So um, but uh like I said, I I I I don't enjoy it. I actually feel bad because uh I'm one of the few Meth uh Yankee fans that'll tell you that um with the exception of a few bad seeds, Meth fans are actually awesome, and there are some things that are likable about the Mets organization, and I'll be the first to say that you guys have a much better stadium than we do. So it it's it's almost like it's never it's never gonna be the level to the hate of the Red Sox because I think that the Red Sox are like a bully. Same thing with the Dodgers, but we're definitely but the Mets to me is just a little engine that couldn't.

SPEAKER_07

Wow, okay. Uh it it's a it's not we can't be compared to the Red Sox because that was an actual rivalry. Um we aren't at the caliber of that those upper echelon teams have won multiple championships. Um we're just a pesky, and I have to say it, little brother, until we prove otherwise or we start winning and we develop, and I gotta say this, right? I like the fact Steve Cohen is the owner of the Mets, but the front office has been a mess from the beginning. Hiring people and then like the whole thing where the guy got the GM was hired. I don't know if Cohen hired him or if that was a Sandy Alderson thing, but hiring the guy to be GM and then he couldn't be GM because of the whole sexual whatever uh assault thing or uh sexual harassment claims. Yeah, um, the thing with Beltron happened. Um it it it hasn't looked like a steady organization. Then he was flirting with uh David Stearns for a while, he wanted Stern to be his guy. Um and then he had Buck there, Buck was winning, but for some reason they got rid of Buck. Like, I yes, they had a bad season right after I would like to see uh Buck's um because I I I'm a Mets fan. So much has happened. Um that I don't remember why we fired Buckshow Walters.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I think that was the David Stearns move because you know he wanted a guy with a that was gonna be analytical more than the guy that goes with his guard.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, so we went from 101 wins to 75 wins um the next season. And I really liked Mendy. I thought he was an excellent hire, but I I think he's a bad hire when you don't have um his team around him or guys that he needs around him for support. And um, you he needs a bench coach that he hired, he picked, because that's the guy that they have conversations with. Um, that's the person that's supposed to see something and and let Mendy know, hey, uh maybe let's do this, or maybe let's work around this, or this guy looks hot. I know what the analytics say, but let's go with this. A pitching coach like you, Jeremy Hafner, was doing a tremendous job. He didn't need to go anywhere. Um, our pitching was awful last year, and David Stearns didn't retain uh Richardson, who was our first base coach, the Mets were running stealing bases last year. They're not doing that this year. Um, and the hitting structure, yes, Eric Chavez. I liked him as a player, I like him as a coach, but hitting is a tricky thing, man. When the team's not hitting for a long period of time, you have to switch that up. You gotta bring new blood in there, you gotta you gotta bring somebody that's like seeing it differently. Um, but Mendy doesn't have input, he doesn't have um, and I tell you, this is why people are saying, oh, let's go after Alex Cora. Alex Cora will never work for David Stern because he's gonna require a a certain amount of of say that I don't think Stern's is ready to give up. Um, and I think David Stearns needs to hire a GM that works separate from him.

SPEAKER_04

Uh so yeah, it just doesn't seem like anybody's on the same page at all, whether it's the owner, the front office, the locker room.

SPEAKER_07

That trickles down from the ownership group. If you say David Stearns, president of baseball operations, then you gotta hold him accountable that he's doing his job. He's filling out the front office, he's he's building the scouting team, he's um looking at players like last year. We called up McClain, uh Jonathan, and Brandon Spro extremely late in the season. And it's ironic because if you look at February, what April, I'm sorry, what's today, 27th?

SPEAKER_04

27th, yep.

SPEAKER_07

We're 9 and 19 this year. Last year we were best record in baseball, 19 and 9. Just last year. So, what has been the change, right? Griffin Canning did a terrific job the first three months of the season. He went down. The pitching didn't last. The nickel and diamond with pitchers is a bad strategy. Not signing a pitcher to seven, 10 years, I get that. But look at the Yankees, right? Giving Max Fried the money has paid out so far for the Yankees, right? Yeah, uh, going after Rodon's hurt, but going after Rodan, going after uh Garrett Cole. I mean, Garrett Cole's got a really large contract, but Max Fried does two. They they got big contracts, but the Yankees have an abundance of starting pitching, and they're sitting comfortably where they could send Luis Heel to AAA and option him.

SPEAKER_04

I think they also called him Jason Dominguez.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, they did. He he's playing. So maybe an adjustment to your plan, David. Maybe you're not the smartest guy in the room. Maybe you do need to pay. Maybe you should have signed Luis Severino instead of uh who's the guy that we had that was hurt, that he was a Yankee also. Jesus Christ, Dominican pitcher. It was a joke when we signed him. Um he was a Yankee also. He played in it. No, no, no. He played for the Mets last year. Uh and he was on the aisle for most of the season, pitched a couple games, had two really good games, two really good outings, but everything else was terrible. Yeah, Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_04

He's uh I forget the name also, but that just goes to show how much it's he hasn't made an impact.

SPEAKER_07

And look at Quintana, not even with Devin Williams. Not even that. Look at Quintana. He pitched against the Mets on Sunday, game one. Um, you could have kept doing two-year deals with him. He's an innings, he would eat innings for you. Um he would uh Dylan Batansis, by the way. No, not Dylan Batansis. This is the Mets Jesus Christ. Uh he played, I don't think it was Oakland. What team was it? Oh my god. I'm I'm gonna tell you right now. Severino? No. He played with Oakland, then he went to New York to them to the Yankees, then he became a Matt. Starting pitcher. I'm gonna get you the name right now because it's bothering me now.

SPEAKER_04

As if the team has already done that for you already, giving you enough headaches already.

SPEAKER_07

No, but this guy was he started the season on the I.

SPEAKER_04

Freddie Peralta?

SPEAKER_07

No, 2025 Mets.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, 2025, okay.

SPEAKER_07

He played for the Mets last year. Instead of giving Sevi the money, you gave him the money. And Sevy went to uh Oakland. Jesus Christ. I'm gonna get it now. I would have re-signed Gregory Soto and had him in the bullpen. That was a good move.

SPEAKER_04

Um he wasn't Yankee.

SPEAKER_07

Holmes is doing very good. And I agreed with that signing. That was fine. Jesus Christ, this guy was on the IL. Dominican pitcher. It's a Dominican pitcher. Mets always have had good players. Go.

SPEAKER_04

Nunes?

SPEAKER_07

No.

SPEAKER_04

Rosabon?

unknown

No.

SPEAKER_07

Former Yankee. Mets pitching. Starting pitching. He started the season.

SPEAKER_04

Not Blackburn.

SPEAKER_07

No, he started the season on the I. L.

SPEAKER_04

Shamaniah, no.

SPEAKER_07

And then he was on the I. with uh Shaw Mania, and then he came back. Frankie Montaz.

SPEAKER_04

Uh, that was gonna be my next one, Frankie Montaz.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, you give Frankie Montaz the money that you gave him instead of giving that money to Severino. That was error number one. The Holmes signing, even this year, Klay Holmes, has been pretty good. That was solid. Um, okay, you guys decided to, because of Manai's performance in the postseason and the 2024 season, you gave him a contract. Cool, whatever. But why not take a risk on Quintana? Like, why not bring him back? Right? I I always felt he he did a pretty decent job with us. Um, and then they kept showing the numbers in the broadcast on Sunday. That was driving me nuts. Um, you had, by the way, we got Christian Scott in the minor leagues. You had Gregory Soto, which did a great job with us. You should have brought him back and put him in the bullpen. Um, I think Luke Weaver should beat our closer from now on. You didn't retain Edwin Diaz, which I I think he should have been a met for life, regardless of the money or the years he wanted. You want to move in, you want to move out. Uh Alonzo, Nemo, and McNeil. Okay, fine. You want to move in a different direction, fine. But a closer is very hard to come by, especially one that's already established in New York.

SPEAKER_04

Um you guys had him.

SPEAKER_07

We we had our guy, and we let him go to Los Angeles, yeah. Which is worse because he's now in the national league.

SPEAKER_04

And you know, that's even like and not to cut you off, Rick, but that also goes to show, like, even before the season started, there was no aggressiveness from the front office, and that's why it's it's trickled down now to you know this team being limp.

SPEAKER_07

And for whatever reason, I understand the moves you guys made. I think um Stearns is pivoting to make this Juan Soto's team cool, but that's a tricky situation where you have a leader already, which is Lindor. Last year's team was Lindor's team.

SPEAKER_05

Yes.

SPEAKER_07

Um, if you're making a move that way, anytime I made a move, I would have both my guys in there with me, Lindor and Soto. Like, hey, I'm thinking about uh this guy or that guy, right? Um, what do you guys think? And and you you spend time developing a relationship and a chemistry between those two. You really do, because you have a ton of money invested in Soto, and you have money and years invested in Endor, albeit you have more years in in Soto. It's a transition. You you gotta get them. I don't want to say not like they're making best friends, but you gotta get them to coexist as co-workers where they're seeing a similar vision together and they're playing and having the same sense of urgency every night, and they're on the same page, right? Because those two guys are the faces of your franchise, yes. And what you did was you set up Lindor for failure, you haven't helped him out, and and and Cohen's statement, like, oh, as long as I'm the owner of the Mets, they'll never be uh they'll never be a captain of the Mets. Well, Steve, guess what? Um, the fans wanted him to be captain, and you should have done it last year, and you had the last captain of the Mets in the building. You should have done it where you do the David Wright retirement number and the the next homestand or the next game where they were at home, you have David Wright come back and slap the C on on Lindor's chest, sort of a passing of the baton, but that's culture, and I think this whole conversation that we've had is based on the culture, winning creating a winning culture in the franchise. And although Stearns is a smart guy and he knows how to run a baseball team, he does not know how to create a winning environment in the front office and in the locker room, and I think the Yankees have a similar situation, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So so basically, so basically, when the when the Mets went to the playoffs, um and they went to the NLCS, that was all just an aberration.

SPEAKER_07

That was a building block. You could have built on that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I agree, and I'm surprised that they didn't because when the season was over, and then after you make these moves, and then you get acquire Juan Soto, that you guys are automatically in the competition, uh, in the conversation.

SPEAKER_07

Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Automatically guys are actually killing it the first uh couple of months of the season, and then it all fell apart in June.

SPEAKER_07

Well, you know the first mistake Lindor should have been at those meetings with Soto. Yes, I would have called him, like, hey, uh Francisco, we're going after him, we're doing the whole dog and pony show, and Francisco would have been involved, he would have wanted to be involved. Yep, because if you if you say, Hey, 2024 playoffs, Francisco Lindor did amazing things for that organization. The fan base was 100% behind them. What you do is you you immediately say, Hey, David Wright's number is gonna be retired, we're but we're gonna make Francisco the captain, and you immediately say, Hey, Francisco, um, we're going after Lindore. We want to know what you think, and you start to build that chemistry together, right? You saw Soto with the Dominican team. Yep, you saw how attached to the players and how connected and how engaged he was.

SPEAKER_04

It was stark compared to how it was with the Mets, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And that's what is missing, right? That's that's why you get the uh conversation about now. Granted, Lindorza dad has a different home life than Juan Soto does, but they have a lot of commonalities, and you need someone in the Mets organization that's gonna help build that culture and bring these guys together. Now, that kind of falls in the responsibility of the manager. But if your manager is not doing it, then someone in the front office should be pulling those strings, right? And maybe it's your GM, maybe it's your bench coach, maybe you hire a guy that's gonna relate to these guys.

SPEAKER_04

And that's such a sad state of affairs where if you guys get rid of Mendy, you don't know what your plan is next. You guys are just still in the wilderness.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, I hope they had a meeting today. I hope Stearns has been thinking about what is next. I hope he sees the writing on the wall. I mean, 9 to 19, the complete opposite of what you were last season, right? Right, and and now this is not and this is not Mets fans talking about this year. This is Mets fans talking about what happened from June on from last year.

SPEAKER_05

Correct.

SPEAKER_07

So there's something dead in the organization you need to fix it. Um and Mets fans keep keep keep not going to these games, keep making these ticket prices go down. Keep keep making sure your voice is heard. It's the only way you're gonna get actual change.

SPEAKER_04

And I don't blame you because, like I said, apparently when everything is hindsight 2020, everything that Steve Coben has ever told you guys or done, um, you know, ever since he became the owner, it's just been a bill of goods because it just hasn't turned around, even though they say they were going to.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, to his credit, he has done what a fan would do with a ton of money. You paid Soto, you paid Max Hurst, you paid Vernander, you you paid uh you brought Alonzo back. I mean, he has done that, but at a certain point, this is not his his job, his job is you know, his other businesses, yeah. Other businesses, so he needed to find someone that he felt would be capable of running his organization, and he has entrusted David Stirrington that. Um but the there's something really broken there, and and I think if you start relaying to the front office and the organization how disappointed, how upset you are, how dead inside you are, and and not showing up to these games and not selling out the ball bar because last year he called us out. He said, Hey, attendance, we were whatever number, and Mets fans showed out last year. But don't do that this year. It's it's particularly the same thing. Like I've always said to the Yankee fans, you want Cashman gun, you want Boom gone, stop going to the stadium, and that's gonna make change go into effect.

SPEAKER_04

So it seems like Met fans are ready for the revolution.

SPEAKER_07

Uh well, listen, I'm here to lead it. I'm here to lead the charge. I'm not gonna stop posting about it, I'm not gonna stop tagging them on it. I'm not gonna have, I'm not gonna stop giving putting this conversation out there. It's a long season. Jason and I just started. The Yanks are winning 4-1 to Texas right now. And you look at Texas, there's a guy named Brandon Nemo on that team. And oh, yes, he's doing his job. There's a guy in Baltimore named Peter Lonzo who uh signed a very friendly deal. Now, when you look at the schematics of the free agency that went down last year, and he's doing his job, and and those are those are bats and positions that we need now on this Mets team. Run prevention, where is that? Right?

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Right.

SPEAKER_07

Brandon Emmel's got four home runs batting 282, 12 ribies with OPS of 813. Anyways, next week, I'm excited to announce this.

SPEAKER_04

We're gonna have it's been an hour already.

SPEAKER_07

Wow, yeah, we're gonna have Pudgy Boys Sports Talk on this pod. Similar taste in teams like me. He's a Met fan, he's a Giants fan. Um, I love watching his content, he has a different point of view. Um, before Stearns made that week and a half of moves in the offseason, he kept preaching trust David Stearns, trust the process. Um, he doesn't see things like uh normal casual Mets fans do, right? Uh I like uh sort of like Keith. I love Keith's point of view, although me and Keith go back and forth at each other. I can imagine, and I I love their take. So uh I'm excited to have him on. He's gonna be on next Tuesday uh at nine o'clock. So uh be on the lookout for that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_07

Jason. Yes, this has been another excellent night. I needed it, I needed this conversation, specifically when I'm watching your team and I watched my team yesterday. I mean, it hurts, man. It really, it really bothers me and it really hurts.

SPEAKER_04

I've been there before when, as a Jazz fan, being jealous of giant fans at times. I mean that's a diff- I mean the thing with football is it's so little games everything is so precious and so lighting but um I digress man thank you for those of you tuned in uh thank you for the Matt fan who had uh a question um and we'll see you guys next week Jason you have anything to add on this yeah I just want to announce uh quick breaking news um I had just recorded the first episode of the brand new podcast called Feature Conversations that'll be out very soon uh I want to give a huge shout out to my uh my very first guest on that podcast Natalie Pisco she did a fantastic job so be on the lookout for that um I'm gonna I don't know exactly what the central is gonna be like but for anybody that's interested in movie banter and just a history of movie podcast episodes or each episode we'll be breaking down anything from the Godfather to Norbit to Spice World no movie is off limits so be on the lookout for that and uh yeah I'm just really excited I did the episode this past Saturday I had so much fun I was really glad to be back in the studio in front of a mic and talking about what I love to talk one of the many things I love talking about in films and uh yeah just be on the lookout for that I hope you guys when you catch it I hope you guys have as much fun with it as I did on that episode and and going forward.

SPEAKER_07

So do me a favor go to our YouTube page uh subscribe hit the bell so you get the notifications go to at Jason Enrique on Instagram and at it's Rick H on Instagram and follow the show at the 2 a.m crew on Instagram um and be on the lookout for feature conversations with Jason Enrique and new episodes of the Rick H show which will be starting up soon so from me and Jason thank you for joining us we'll see you guys next week yes indeed peace