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Rick Hierro and Jason Enrique Season 1 Episode 47

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Rick Hierro and Jason Enrique break down the biggest week in New York sports! The Knicks are officially headed to the 2026 Eastern Conference Finals to face Donovan Mitchell and the Cleveland Cavaliers, and the guys preview the entire series — key matchups, X-factors, predictions, and whether this Knicks team can finally reach the NBA Finals.

The crew also reacts to the Mets taking over the Subway Series against the Yankees and what it says about both teams moving forward. From Jalen Brunson’s playoff dominance to the chaos of New York baseball, Episode 47 is packed with energy, hot takes, and classic late-night NYC sports talk.

🏀 Knicks vs Cavs Preview
⚾ Mets Beat the Yankees
🔥 NBA Playoff Reactions
🗽 New York Sports Running the City

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SPEAKER_04

Welcome, welcome, welcome to the two AM crew. I am one of your hosts, Rick H, joined by the lovely Jason Enrique, yes indeed. I mean, we we gotta we gotta one day uh hit that like right next to each other. Wait, should we do that all over again? All right, here we go. Here we go. Let's just get the applause back in here, too. Welcome to the 2 a.m. crew. I'm your host, Rick Age, joined by the greatest hair in podcasting.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, indeed, Jason Enrique.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, again, there's a small delay. Oh my god. Oh man, how have you been?

SPEAKER_03

Not too bad, my man. How you been?

SPEAKER_04

I'm doing great. My uh finally we know who's going to play the Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. We did a prediction in the last episode, correct?

SPEAKER_03

That is correct, yes.

SPEAKER_04

Did we both say calves because of the home court?

SPEAKER_03

I said calves because not neither one of us said home court. I said calves because I just figured that it would be an easier route to the finals than Detroit because I feel like hey, this is the break that we finally could use to finally get to the finals after I don't know, 20 some odd years. But you said Detroit because of the storyline, because you feel like we were no matter what whether it was gonna be Cleveland or Detroit, you wanted Detroit just because to you know shut them up. We beat them before and we can beat them again. And then uh you also made your prediction for Knicks Spurs for the finals.

SPEAKER_04

Now, I I really I I honestly I didn't care who we played, it had an advantage on both sides. I was not one of these fans, like, oh my god, I need the Cavs. No, if we would have played Detroit, I felt like it would have been a nice matchup, Eastern Conference Finals. It kind of like would ramp them up once again after this long delay, you know, like Detroit was gonna come out swinging. The advantage with the Cavs is home court, um, which I wanted to see my Knicks play at home first, right? Yeah um, and it didn't matter to if had the Cavs finished the series off in game six, it would have been Sunday, that would have been nice, but um we get to have it on our normal recording night, which is Tuesday, um against the Cavs on home floor, and on the Western Conference, like we said, it would be I mean it wasn't much of a what was the series? Who was the Spurs series? It ended up 4-2, or did it go it didn't go seven games, did it?

SPEAKER_03

No, it didn't go seven games. I think it was 4-2. Yeah, but there was at one point where Minnesota was looking good, uh the Spurs was just the team around. And people actually thought that Minnesota could have a manage after the win. But they were just a number team.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, I I I also said I wanted the Spurs in the finals if we got to that point, because of the story of it being, you know, last team we played in the finals was the Spurs. Coincidentally, last time there was a Long Island Railroad strike, it was in 1994, and the Knicks went to the finals. Um, but I felt like in '99, it was the turning point where the franchise went from being so good, so dominant in the east for so long, to the laughing stock that they became eventually for over 20 years before uh we started becoming relevant five or six years ago again. Um, and in this run, I would like to see the Knicks win a championship. Join us on the YouTube. We are live right now, we're discussing the Knicks. Um, I would love to see a championship in my lifetime from the Knicks simply because it would mean so much more. Like I wasn't, we'll get into the Subway series in a little bit, right? Um the Mets are seven wins away from getting me back to talking about them and watching them and feeling like they're relevant again. Um, but even in certain points, like you watch clips where there was Mets and Yankees fans, and then there was one person wearing a Brunson jersey, and everybody started chanting, Let's go Knicks. So it that goes to show how important those Knicks. I guarantee you, while the games are going, both stadiums will be having the scoreboard, the score on the side, or some type of video of the game going on simultaneously. So it would be great to come full circle and face the Spurs. Now, obviously, people would say, hey, you don't want to play you don't want to face you don't want to face the defending champions, you you wanna you wanna go the easier route, whatever maybe. I don't think the Spurs are the easier route. I don't think okay, C's an easy route. I don't think the Spurs are an easier route. I just storyline and um for the drama, it would be nice to be Nick Spurs again. Um, because that was the last team that we played in the finals, and we swept we got swept by them. So it'd be great to uh clean that up um and possibly win the championship. I'm saying possibly. If they play like they've been playing lately, I I I think we have a fair shot with either team we play in the West. So what are your thoughts, Jason?

SPEAKER_03

Well, it's interesting if uh if it is ultimately uh Nick Spurs, you know, kind of like the the long-awaited sequel that we've been wanting for a long time. Um I would really think that the Knicks would really match up with the battle. I would I wouldn't I don't know if I would say that it would, even though it was a very good shit. But um we go back to 1999. As much as we enjoyed the Knicks. We all knew the stories were better.

SPEAKER_04

Patrick, you went out of you you keep coming in and out. I don't know what that is. I'm sorry, Jason. Like you you're you Yeah, you you're still coming in and out. Oh my god. This is what happens when we record on a Monday and not on a Tuesday. So while uh we try to fix the audio, who did you guys want to see the next face? Detroit is that better? This is much better.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, all right. Okay, take it away. I the problem was the problem was I had to um do it from the uh road connect system instead of the mic. But either way, okay. Um so yeah, yeah. So either way, to to reiterate really shortly what I was saying before, before I was going in and out, was um, you know, back in 1999, the Spurs were a much better team than the Knicks were. I mean, the Knicks, I they were a solid team, but we all knew that they were they really didn't stand a chance against the Spurs at the time. I think it's different this time. You know, they're this is not your old man Spurs as the as they would say in in sports radio. Uh, I think that this is probably the best well-rounded Knicks team that we've had in decades. Uh, I think they're prime to win. I think they have a pedigree of winning. They were two games away from getting to the finals last season, and they pretty much brought run it, ran it back with a better bench and uh a little bit of adjustment at coaching. And I think that I'm not trying to count my chickens too fast before they hatch, but this is the most optimistic I felt as a Knicks fan in the very long time, where I feel extremely confident saying that they have a real legitimate shot of being NBA champions this year, and it's a really dark contrast to how it was earlier in the season when I thought that they made a huge mistake firing Thibodeau because this doesn't look like the same Knicks team. Like nothing in the regular season predicated that they had a championship pedigree, and then something happened in the f in the in the playoffs. I don't know what happened, but I'm loving it. And uh I'm I'm really, really excited. And I don't want to put any bad juju out there, but if there's a chance where we actually don't win away with the title, I think we could be proud that this is one of the best Knicks teams that we've seen in a long time. And uh, you know, it's it's just gonna be it's gonna be it's gonna be a psych to see, and I'm just really looking forward to it. And you know, we deserve this. You know, one of the interesting things about Nick Fan uh uh Nick fans in in New York specifically is that this is the only team that seems to unify us when we have uh so many other franchises. Uh, you know, New York Yankees, New York Mets, Giants, Jets, but the Knicks really are the ones that really unify us, and this would be the one team, the one championship where I feel like the entire city of New York will be in unison of celebrating something glorious.

SPEAKER_04

I I totally agree with you. I mean, the Knicks are that one franchise that uh no matter what your loyalty are in other sports, whether it be the Jets, the Giants, whether it be the Mets or the Yankees, Rangers, Islanders, Devils, everybody when it comes to basketball is a Knicks fan. Um, with the exception of some rare few, like Keith McPherson, who's a Nets fan. Um, it would be I think a Knicks championship would be bigger than a Super Bowl, bigger than a World Series title from either team. And I say either team, including the Mets. Like if the Mets haven't won since 86, but the Knicks haven't won since 73. And I think that this is New York is more of a sports, it's a sports town, but it's a basketball town. There's a hoop in almost every park. Um, everybody's first love is basketball. Not only does it bring fans like Knicks, Mets fans, and Yankee fans together, but also brings a lot of different cultures together. Um the game has just grown to be such a universal game that it's beautiful to watch, and you can see how starving this fan base is when they're celebrating uh any playoff win.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah, it would be a good thing. Yeah, and I think also one of the things that uh Madison Square Garden in particular would get knocked on is even when the Knicks were terrible, they would always sell out the arena, uh, and you would always have Celebrity Row with a bunch of people that weren't even Knicks fans. They just came because they have money or they're celebrities or they're tourists, and they have to cross off their bucket list of going to a Knicks game at Madison Square Garden. Now you're actually seeing diehard Knicks fans at Celebrity Row, like Ben Stiller, Timothy Chalamet, Joe Budden, Fat Joe, Tracy Morgan, Spike Lee, John McEnroe, uh like a whole bunch of and it's it's it's really adding to the uh to the to the mystique of the New York Knicks fandom. And one of the things that I also love about playoff basketball, especially at Madison Square Garden, I don't think there's any other arena in the United States of America that is more electric than Madison Square Garden during playoff season.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, MSG sounds insane, and you you mentioned Celebrity Row on top of the Timothy Salamane, the uh uh Spike Lee's who I'm gonna say Spike Lee, Timothy's Ben Stiller, Tracy Morgan, those are real hardcore. Even Fat Joe, I'll throw Fat Joe in there as well. But it's beautiful to see past Knicks like John Stark, Slarry Johnson, Patrick Ewing, and they're all like focused 100% on the game, and and they they kind of feel like they're out there with those guys. Uh, if yeah, unfortunately, the only one missing is Oakley, but we all know. Yes, that would be so oh my god, that would be tremendous.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, tremendous. Yeah, I think that I think that Dolan, I think that Dolan and Oakley should put their differences aside and just go for it.

SPEAKER_04

I if they make it to the NBA finals, I think the Knicks fans should petition for for Oak to be in the building. It it would be Yeah, it would be fantastic. So the Mets are tied with the Nationals, and they currently have a man on third in the top of the 11th. Um, the game is 5'5. Okay, I think it would be tremendous to have Oakley there. And I've I saw an interview today, they were talking to John Starks, and John Starks was talking about has what advice has he given this team and does he feel like this current roster can win the championship? And without hesitation, he says, I think they could win it all. And I've told Brunson that himself, and this was a couple years ago, and he's just like it's just the way they play for each other, and even now, more now, because of the way they've been playing together. Um, and I think they have unlocked something. I feel like all of them touching the ball, all of them being involved in the offense, everybody scoring at least 10 points gets them going on the defensive defensive side of the ball. I mean, I've never seen Brunson and Cap play harder on defense. But who has been the Knicks' MVP so far in this playoff front, in your opinion?

SPEAKER_03

I feel it's OG Ananobi because I think that he's so important uh to the to the uh to the franchise right now that if the Knicks were to win a a a finals, uh win the finals and win become NBA champions, uh a lot of it would be due to the fact that OG Ananobi is the X factor. I mean, I know people want to go at uh you know, name Brunson. You could even uh put out uh Carl Anthony Towns out there, uh maybe even the bench. But I think that the real X factor, the real key piece in that's in that squad is OG Ananobi. And when he was injured during the Philly game, people were actually they weren't too worried, but they did have some pause for concern that you know if this kept on going, then this could be troubling for the Knicks. And I truly, if if he was, you know, God forbid, if he was gone for the rest of the playoffs, I would say that there's no shot that they they would get to the finals, let alone uh win it. But with him being in the uh in the lineup and getting healthy again, I think that he is the difference maker. And the one that is just he's like he's a third guy. He's a third guy. You got Brunson, who I love, you got Carl Anthony Towns, who I love. But I I think that the real key piece here is OG Ananobi.

SPEAKER_04

So my uh pick is gonna shock you. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say Mikkel Bridges. Okay, all right. Not too shocking.

SPEAKER_03

I I would say OG, right? But I'm gonna say if you said Deuce or you said uh Mitchell Robinson, I would have been shocked, but not now with uh not with Mikhail Bridges.

SPEAKER_04

I'm gonna say Mikhail because simply because the Knicks were ready to put him on the bench. By the way, the Mets are up 6'5. Uh put him on the bench, get rid of the guy. Um, and he has played very consistent on both sides of the floor every single night. And when OG went down, he took it up a notch a little bit just to make sure, like just like every, and I give credit to everybody else. McKel wasn't the only one, but McKel and OG are known for being two-way players and being exceptional on defense. And I think when OG went down, Mikkel took it upon himself, like, all right, I'm gonna bring that extra effort, him and Josh Hart. So uh, I'm gonna say Bridges. I have one more interesting, cool question. I want to hear your answer on it. What former Knicks player would you have loved to see play on this current team?

SPEAKER_05

Hmm.

SPEAKER_03

Uh this is gonna come way out of left field, but I really enjoyed it when he was on the team. Tyson Chandler. Because I think that his defense at the time was solid with the Carmelo Anthony, J.R. Smith, Amon Shupert squad. Um, he was the defensive player of the year at that, uh, if I'm not mistaken, at that time. And even though this Knicks defense is solid, I think that somebody of his caliber with that size and who has been able to stay healthy as opposed to somebody like a uh uh Mitchell Robinson, uh, and also his veteran status, I think that that would have been a really cool thing to see on this Knicks team.

SPEAKER_04

Tyson Chandler was the defensive anchor of those Knicks teams. I think that that's kind of you would you kind of got a little bit of that with Mitchell Robinson, but uh offensively Chandler is always better than than Mitch. Um, it would have been nice and healthier. It would be nice because he also would hold some of those guys accountable that are like taking some plays off and aren't giving max effort on defense. Um I'm also gonna go with a center. Excuse me. For selfish reasons, and it and it's Patrick Ewing. Yeah, I mean, hey, my favorite Nick of all time. I believe um every Nick fan regrets how they treated Patrick in the latter years. I believe he wasn't appreciated till he was gone. Um, and just to hear the way some of his peers, like Charles Barkley talks about him, like he really was slept on when he played here in New York. And and the minutes, the points, the rebounds, the blocks, the intensity, the the identity that he gave those Knicks teams. Uh, it was certainly missed. And and I mentioned it, the 1999 finals, soon after he gets traded, and the franchise goes down in the toilet. Now he works for the franchise now, and if they were to win, he would get a ring. But how beautiful would it be to see a Da Memon big man down low with Kat at the four? That would move Kat over to the four. Um, how spaced that team would be. And rebound-wise, forget about it. And and you couldn't drive with those Knicks teams, you couldn't you couldn't drive the lane. You might get there once, but they would always warn you try that shit again. Um yeah, but it it would be Pat. And then if if I could pick, if Pat, if I can't Pat, obviously Mellow against Selfish Regions. I would love to see it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So and it's crazy because I I I I've actually saw um uh where uh this uh this this new uh well I mean I don't want to say new generation, but uh Jalen Barneson has already won more playoff games than Carmelo Anthony ever did as an ex.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

He's also scored the most that have uh I'm gonna give you one more Jalen Brunson stat.

SPEAKER_04

He scored the most points of any player since 2022 in the playoffs so far. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Isn't it crazy if we go back when uh Dallas decides not to bring back Jalen Brunson and becomes the point guard for the New York Knicks? How people were kind of poo-pooing that because he wasn't a big name star like that, that the new Knicks seemed to always go for the agency. And then look how the tables have turned, and this guy has essentially become the king of New York.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, he it was laughed at when the Knicks signed Brunson.

SPEAKER_03

Uh there's I have a I mean, you had Stephen A. Smith ready to, you know, ball on national TV.

SPEAKER_04

Not only that, but every sports commentator, you know, you have Becky Ham. Saying you can't win with a little guy like that. You had the guy Nick from FS1 laughing at it. This is the saddest, whatever, whatever. I I put the clip up just every year. I put it up just to remind people like what they were saying. And now it turns out that that deal was a steal. And now Barkley's saying it's the greatest free agent signing that he's ever seen just because of the way the team has turned around. Um, and it has. And you could tell that this meant a lot to him. You could give credit to Leon Rose, all the credit in the world, because he knew what it would be to bring him here. And um Dallas didn't know, unfortunately, what they had, according to the Nationals just tied the game. Let me take this. I don't even know why I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_03

This wasn't the same Dallas Mavericks that thought this is also the same Dallas Mavericks that thought that trading away Luca Doncic was the best move that they can make at the time.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, they traded away Luca to get Cooper Flack. And isn't it a coincidence that you know Trey Young gets traded to Washington? Then they get uh they tank, and all of a sudden now they got the first pick. Like, I don't even want to talk about the NBA lot of me. But um, tell me your thoughts on these next two series: the Eastern Conference, the Western Conference. Uh, tell me how you see it playing out. Is it a five game, six games, who you got winning, and who's in your NBA finals matchup?

SPEAKER_03

So I think that this is gonna be a very solid Eastern Conference Finals for the New York Knicks. I think that they have the advantage over Cleveland. They Cleveland really doesn't scare me. I'm not scared of James Harden. Uh, you know, I I respect Kenny Atkins as a coach, but I think that Mike Brown and his squad are is doing something special with this New York Knicks team right now. I don't know how they were able to beat Detroit, but if anything, that just shows that Detroit are fraudulent, as we all thought so, in the back of our mind. But to answer your question, I think that it's actually gonna be Knicks and five. I think it'll be a gentleman's sweep, and they uh especially with home court advantage, because that's a huge deal for us. If we had to face off Detroit, we wouldn't have uh home court advantage. But I think that Knicks and five is gonna be ideal because I think that Cleveland will still won in Cleveland and then afterwards they'll finish it off in Madison Square Garden, where it should be, where they'll be crowned as Eastern Conference champions. Now, the West is a little bit difficult for me because the Oklahoma City Thunder has not shown any signs of slowing down ever since they won the championship last year. And San Antonio has revamped themselves, and Wembayama has become a huge star. They're scrappy, they're tough, this, that, and the third. Uh, I actually like their coach uh very much. I respect it. San Antonio's always been a solid uh organization. So I think it's gonna be a hard fought hard fought fight. Uh, but ultimately I see Oklahoma City Thunder winning the Western Conference Finals at game seven. I think it's gonna go to be a seven-game series, and the Knicks are gonna have uh a lot of time to rest, prepare, and get ready to face off OKC in the NBA finals.

SPEAKER_04

So I'm I'm not gonna disagree with you on the Eastern Conference Finals. I think five is um where it ends. I'm gonna say I think five is where it ends. That's for me the best case scenario. Let's move on. Uh, I just want to throw this stat out there. OKC and the Spurs have played each other five times during the regular season. Having OKC only win one of those five games. So uh who wins? Spurs in six in that series. So that that that's how I got it lined up. And I and if I get it right, I get it right. But Knicks in five, Spurs in six.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. And so your NBA matchup would be New York versus San Antonio.

SPEAKER_04

New York versus San Antonio. Which it it would end up being Spurs having home court, correct? I think so, yeah. I gotta I gotta see what they're gonna punch it up right now. I have to do it on my phone because if I do it on the computer, it the stream slows down and it starts lagging.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Uh there were 62 and 20.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, they're definitely gonna have home court advantage. Wow. Yeah, all right. And okay, see four and eighteen.

SPEAKER_03

So, either way, yeah, regardless, the Western Conference Final, whoever the champion is, is gonna have home court advantage. But you know what? In a way, that makes it even all the more special for the Eastern Conference Finals, and I feel more confident in the Knicks winning in five because since the fact that we do have home court advantage, it's gonna be uh it's gonna be in the Knicks' favor, especially with the the fan base and the crowd and the stadium, it's just gonna be rocking. And side talk NYC and all those other media outlets, they're gonna have they're gonna need security when uh it's all said and done after the Eastern Conference Finals. It's gonna be a madhouse on 7th Avenue.

SPEAKER_04

The Knicks have the Knicks fans travel well too. So those Caz games, you might hear what they did with Philly. Yeah, they you might hear Cleveland is not that far off. You might hear a lot of uh Knicks fans in there. So um, yeah, I I think we'll take advantage of that. And uh who knows? I all I want to see is us in the finals. That proves that the organization did the right thing hiring Mike Brown, um, and it proves that they are improving. Now, by the way, once we get to beat the Toronto Blue Chase 7-6, yeah, and the Mets probably lost to the Nationals, so everything is back to normal.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah, we'll talk about that in a second.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, so Lupi the blogger, right? Oh no, the game is tied 6-6. I did see something about this on social media with Lupi the blogger. He he starts coming out and he's attacking Mets fans, and and I'm like, do the Mets live rent-free in your mind? Because none of us are talking about the Yankees. No real sane Met fan is even talking about the Mets themselves. They're taking the same stance I am. Give me the wins that you gave away and you lost, and get to 500, and then we'll have that conversation. Oh, it's uh Benj will be no Tyron Taylor will be in second, and hitting right now is Hayden Singer, uh, and the game is tied 6'6, so Met's got a chance to pull away with one here. No one was discussing this is top of the 12th in in Washington. No one was discussing the subway series, and every time he has a chance to go out, excuse me, Met fans, he takes those shots. Now I bet you if the Yankees won, he would have beautiful bunt moving the runner over, men on third, one out now. So had the Yankees won that series, he would have been talking shit. The Yankees lost that series, he was talking shit. So I feel like the Yankees still are kind of like scorn lovers. Like, we don't think that that we won the World Series, we don't think that this is uh like oh my god, um, we beat the almighty Yankees. This season is is has turned around. Now we don't have to worry about no Meth fans are worried about just being 500 right now, bro. Carson Benge is batting up one out.

SPEAKER_03

Real Mets fans that are also real baseball fans feel that way. I think that you guys unfortunately get drowned out by the uh fidgety Met fans that don't watch all 162 games, that probably don't even know what their starting lineup is, who doesn't even know who their uh owner is. It's just those casual people that they only show up for important games like those Subway series or the, or dare I say the playoffs or whatever, and they feel like this is then with their time that they could pop their shit, they could talk their shit, uh, especially since it's just an easy target being the Subway series. And I think that that gets overshadowed and and is the loudest over people that are legit real baseball meth fans like yourself, Rick. And you know, when it comes to Luby the blogger and all that stuff, we're unfortunately in the business of content creation. I mean, as much as I like uh Nick Tutoro, and we bet this before mentioned this before, as much as I like Nick Tutoro as an actor, his Yankee fandom, and he's one of my Yankee fan brethren, but his Yankee fandom just drives me up a fucking wall. Like, I just want to smack the crap out of him sometimes with his Yankee takes. Like, dude, shut up because you're making us look like a bunch of morons and ignorant. Ignorant. That's the best way that I could come up with it.

SPEAKER_04

So I don't know if it's the Mets living rent-free. Here we go. The Mets just scored a run, and Carson Bedge is on first. So it's 7-6, one out, men on first. I don't know if the Mets live rent-free in his mind. I don't know if there are some delusional Mets fans that get at him to get a reaction of him. I don't know if it's him creating content, I don't know what it is, but nobody's all the honestly. And I think maybe maybe it's the fact that the Yankees haven't fared well against the Mets the last five, six years in the Subway series. The Subway series is cool. Oh, we got some comments here. I'm not even the Subway series is cool, but um it's not the end all be all for me, right? I it's a nice you know, like rivalry weekend type of thing to watch. Um, I'm not hyped about getting two out of three of the Yankees. Yankees aren't playing very well at this moment, neither are we. No, so you you passed Mets aren't Mets aren't even 500 right now. When they get to 500 baseball, then we could have a beginning conversation about being a new season, till then, right? Uh oh. Oh, Bishep very came very close to hitting a home run. So I'm not concerned right now.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, listen, it's just another situation of like when somebody is down and out. If somebody else that's not them trips over a slips on a banana peel or something and falls on their ass, that's a win to them. Because everything else in their life is going to shit. That once something else happens to them that that's not them, it's like they take it as a victory. And that's where that's where Meth fans are right now. They needed this, they needed this Subway series to feel better about themselves. And I'm not even again, I'm not even talking about real Meth baseball fans like yourself. I'm talking about the casual meth fans that don't watch 162 games, that don't know who the starting lineup is, and vice versa. They don't even know that Mike, uh that Carlos Mendoza is almost out the door, they don't even know who Carlos Mendoza is. So I think that's all just popping circumstance from casual Meth fans who are not really all there like that, like yourself, and probably don't even know what our uh an RBI is.

SPEAKER_04

And and if you ask me, the Yankees could have easily won this series. Um and the Yankees are playing a lot better. I mean, can you give me the Yankees record right now? I think they're in they're still in first, correct? I believe so, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Because they just gained the L East is the L East is trash.

SPEAKER_04

Give me the Yankee record, and and tell me who's in second place. They just beat Toronto today, so that means they gained the game on Toronto.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Well, actually, no, Tampa Bay is uh on top right now, but the Yankee record is 28 and 19. Tampa Bay is 31 and 15.

SPEAKER_04

All right, and the Yankees pay Tampa at the end of this week. I think the first game's Friday. So it's and how many games is Tampa up?

SPEAKER_03

Tampa is up three, uh, three and a half games.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, so if the Yankees sweep Tampa, then it tightens that division. So so what are we talking about? And the Mets are can you look at the Mets division? I just I'm just curious. Just the Mets division, yes. 20 and 26. Where are they? The Mets are 20 and 26.

SPEAKER_03

2026, you're dead last in the yeah, you're dead last in the division. You're 11 games, you're 11 games back.

SPEAKER_04

Dead last, exactly. So that's why I keep saying, uh what did I say earlier? Eight games or seven games to get me back? Bobachette timely hitting, yeah, man on first and third, and here comes Juan Soto.

SPEAKER_03

You guys uh have the worst record, the second worst record behind the uh ahead of the Colorado Rockies.

SPEAKER_04

So, what what what would I be celebrating? Again, that they won two games from the Yankees. I don't give a shit about those two games. I'm happy we won the series, that's good, but I want them to play consistent baseball. I want to see signs of life, I want to see them starting to come around and hit more. I want to see Juan Soto's been killing the shit out of the baseball, and and these are his months May, June, July. He's heating up. I want to see them trending in the right direction, but they're gonna have to go on a nice little run where they win eight games in a row, six games in a row, whatever it may be, to get back to a nice spot. They're in last place right now.

SPEAKER_03

Bro, this is it, this is just equivalent to a Mets fan that has a crush on a girl and a Yankee fan smashes her only for him to get crabs. That's all it is right now. But uh, but here let me ask you something when it comes to the Mets though, it was really interesting. So I was listening to uh well, I listen to Joe Boningo's All the Pain podcast all the time, and he has been really down on the Mets, uh, more particularly than Juan Soto. He has been all over his podcast talking about how uh he doesn't think that Juan Soto is gonna play to the end of his uh um uh uh his contract, he doesn't believe that he'll be a met past 20 uh 2030. Uh he feels like he is not the his worth in the weight as far as the money is concerned. Like, when does he ever have a big shot? Like, you know, like the the Mets are down and out, but when is he if he's not gonna be a vocal leader or any of that, anything of that that Francisco Lindora is supposed to be, when does he get the big hit? When does he do this and that? When is he gonna be the player that the New York Mets uh, you know, well specifically Steve Cohen nice butt, everybody's safe.

SPEAKER_04

Mets up eight six bases loaded. Um, I'll tell you right now.

SPEAKER_03

Uh yeah, and this is the only Met fan that I know that feels about this way.

SPEAKER_04

I I'll tell you this much. I I kind of agree and disagree with Joe, right? It depends, right? I feel like the current crop of young players around Soto likes Soto. You could see how he was with Carson Benj. Um, the players gravitate towards him, and and winning cures everything. I think if they go on a run and they win some games, you will see things turn around, and he's been playing very well. So is he the reason that they're winning? No, but he's going to it's gonna get to that point. He i i feel like first of all, this is season two. Um, he's just starting to get comfortable with the team, right? Um, the the problem is Lindor, him and Lindor have to be on the same page. Once Lindor accepts and rides and protects and is all about being a good teammate to Soto and rep vice versa. I feel like the Mets' fortunes would turn around. But I all the young players they rally against they rally around Soto, and you can see how he is towards them. Bases loaded one out, and here comes Beatty. Uh Mets up 8-6.

SPEAKER_03

So pretty good inning for the Mets so far. It's the fourth quarter of the Western Finals right now, and San Antonio is up 80 to 73. Western finals, Western Conference Finals. It's on right now, okay, and uh San Antonio. Oh San Antonio's winning right now, 80 to 73.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that's that's beautiful.

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That's beautiful.

SPEAKER_04

I like the K1bayana, man. I think he's gonna be a really good player for a very long time. Yeah, um, and I think they do things very well in San Antonio, so I think so too. Shout out to them, but yeah, I really don't Lupi's comments, man. Let me ask you something. Are you still mad that Soto chose the Mets over the Yankees?

SPEAKER_03

I was never mad about that. I I just what I if there was anything that I was mad at, mad at the Mets fans that were gonna make it all about how he chose us over you guys because he thinks you guys suck and we have a brighter future, this than the third. For me, Soto was always a mercenary, you know, due to the fact that he was with um San Diego and Washington, and I forget where he was before Washington.

SPEAKER_04

Well, he didn't he he didn't want to be in Washington, he was traded to Washington.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right, but I forget what team he was there, but well, who he was before that. He was nationals.

SPEAKER_04

National, no, no, no, before the nationals. Uh yeah, he was in one what he came up with as the nationals. He came up with the nationals, and then he got to San Diego.

SPEAKER_03

Right, right. Okay, okay, that's where that's where I got it mixed up. But my point is, regardless, is that he always came off to me as a mercenary. He never came off as a guy that was gonna be in the long haul for uh uh you know, um, you know, for tradition. He didn't he he's not a guy that comes off as a guy that wants to play for tradition and and all that other stuff. He was always gonna be about the money.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, you say that, right? Uh he comes I say that, yeah. He comes up with the nationals, gets gets traded. So when you get traded, it's not like you have an option. And he got traded on his rookie deal. He goes to San Diego, uh uh, didn't have a real Juan Soto year the first year. He did a lot better, and then he gets again, he gets traded to the Yankees, didn't want to go to the Yankees. It's not like he forced his way up there, has a good year with the Yankees, goes to the World Series, becomes a free agent. This kid has been planning for his free agency ever since he came up. Now, he never made it what he didn't do was he didn't go out there and say, Hey, I want to be a Yankee, or hey, I want to be this or hey, I want to be that. He wanted to play great enough to that's all uh that's ultimately what I was getting at. Yeah, yeah. To command good money because of his personal situation. Now he's a Met, and I feel like now he has to settle into that, live with that, and basically is up to the team itself and the organization to put people around him that want that would make what might want to make him stay there, like create the culture that he's seeking for, um, and make him stay there and make him want to create his legacy there. And like I said, winning cures everything. This is year two. They did they had a terrible second half, and then Beatty just got a base hit, two runs come in. Game is now 10-6. This is getting out of hand for the Nationals. Um, and I thought this game was over. Soto just scored now. They elected to but ultimately walk Soto rolled the base.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but to ultimately answer your question, I was I I never was upset the fact that he chose to go to the Mets over the Yankees because I always thought that it was a business decision, you know. Like I honestly feel that if it wasn't about money, he would have came back to the Yankees. Because especially what he was able to build here, the year that he hit in the Bronx, him behind Judge, the whole everything just seemed to be firing on all cylinders, and they just came up short because they were facing the the 2025 version of the New York Nankees now. Like if the ghost of George Steinbrenner was.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, I don't think they came up short. I think they collapsed just like the Falcons did against the Patriots. I mean, that game where Drudge where Drudge now it's symbolic that he drops the fly ball, but it wasn't just that, it was multiple things that happened in that game that turned the entire series around for the Dodgers.

SPEAKER_03

Well, we also knew that in the back of our minds that the New York Knicks, no, the New York Yankees, if they were gonna win that World Series, they were facing an uphill battle against the Dodgers. The Dodgers had the advantage the entire time. I mean, for sure. I was actually shocked, and I was I was actually shocked that it was a gentleman's sweep. Show it was hurt. As soon as soon as game one was over, as soon as game one was over with that Freddie Freeman uh Grand Slam, I knew we were not gonna win that World Series. I just felt it in my uh there was just that feeling I had in my gut while I was like this is the kind of defeat in game one where it sets the tone and demoralizes the uh the the other team going forward for the rest of the series.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, no. One was stopping Freddie Freeman in that postseason. But Shohei was hurt. Um, yeah, they didn't have much of a rotation at the time. They were doing a lot of those bullpen games.

SPEAKER_03

But as a as a Yankee fan who've had to see that grand slam by Freddie Freeman, I just felt in the pit in my stomach that that's it. Like there's three, there's three more games to win, but this series is over. I just felt it right then and there. And that's why I was already tuned out by the time they actually hoisted the trophy.

SPEAKER_04

Now, let me ask you, the Yankees are in second place, but they were in first place and they were on a nice little run. How do you feel about this year's squad so far?

SPEAKER_03

Uh, I mean, I didn't I wasn't in love with the fact that they ran it back last year. Uh basically, you know, being the kind of arrogance that they have. And you know, we we know they're gonna make the playoffs, and they'll probably have a good chance of winning the division and everything, but there's nothing that screams to me that they're gonna be World Series champions, and that's the ultimate goal. I just feel like I'm rewinding the same DVD over and over again because and knowing what the end result is. Yeah, they're gonna be a good team, yeah. They're gonna make the playoffs, they're gonna do this, they're gonna do that. All right, boop de doo. To me, at this point, I've seen it all. I I I need to I need to have a world series championship, and I don't see it with this team as it's currently constituted.

SPEAKER_04

All right, you know, Brian Cashman does moves at the trade deadline. Yes, I'm gonna ask you knowing that, can this Yankee team win a World Series? As currently constructed, no, you know how the injuries are, and you know Cashman's gonna go out there and get some guys. No. So where because where do you where is the where does this do they make the playoffs? Is it a first round exit? Is it a uh a division league, the division round exit? Is it an ALCS exit? Is it a World Series loss?

SPEAKER_03

This is a first round exit. This is a first round exit because, like I said, they decided to run it back, and with the guys that were performing last season that we were looking forward to are not playing to the back of their uh baseball card right now. We the the struggles with Anthony Volpe, uh Austin Wells has become a disaster. Jazz Chisholm looks like he's out the door. Uh and and we and ultimately, like luckily, Judge has been able to stay healthy, but how long is that gonna hap uh stay? And we know Garrett Cole is coming back eventually, Rodan is back, but the health and the the arrogance, the the mixture of those two is what gives me cause for pause for the Yankees going forward and winning the World Series or even going uh making a deep uh playoff run. So I think that's they're gonna, you know, it's gonna be the same old song and dance where like they'll make it to the playoffs, maybe they'll win the division, but it'll be a first-round exit. I mean, whoop-de-doo, and then afterwards it's gonna be we're still on the hamster wheel, and I don't see anything changing anytime soon.

SPEAKER_04

Is there something Cashman could do to convince you that this is the squad that's gonna win a World Series at the trade deadline?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know who that player is, but you need to find somebody that's gonna be behind Judge to help him out. Like you already had Juan Soto to help him out behind uh batting behind him because that like one of the things that does suck about uh about Soto not being here anymore is that he was the perfect Robin to judge as Batman. And you need to find that. I don't know who it's gonna be, I don't know who is available, I don't know what Cashman is thinking, but Stanton is not it. I mean, he's not gonna be your bet uh your Robin. So you need to find somebody in the playoffs, he might. In the playoffs, yeah, but the regular season, it's a whole different animal. And um, yeah, I I uh I don't I don't know where to go from here, but that's that's really my my answer. I mean, you you have to make a uh a Steinbrenner-like move in order for me to really believe that that's that's that's what that's what I want.

SPEAKER_04

I want you to give me a move that you feel will turn this around and give the Yankees exactly what they're missing to make a deep run.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the person that I can that immediately shoots to the front of my head, but I don't know if it's even possible because I don't know the details behind it is Fernando Tatis Jr.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. And and are you willing to give up Cam Schlitzer, Spencer Jones, and uh another prospect for Tatis, plus some players match up the money.

SPEAKER_03

I would give up, I would not give up um Schlittler.

SPEAKER_04

Um it would I'll tell you what it takes right now. It would take Grisham, Schlitter, uh Grisham, Schlitter, Lombard Jr., and Spencer Jones, and you guys would get Tatis in return. You would throw you would throw in Grisham to match up money, um, and they would command three prospects in return. You could take Grisham and the Padres just got sold, so yeah, Tatis being on the move could be a realistic thing because I think Machado is owed more money than him. Well, that's another person that I wouldn't mind having on the squad. Well, they you had an opportunity. Do you know what happened? In the uh those meetings, they sat across from Manny and said, Why should we make you a Yankee? And they also never made a contract offer to Bryce Harper. Well, listen, it's very possible AJ Ewing with another RBI hit 12-6 Mets one out.

SPEAKER_03

It's very possible that in the back of Brian Castro's mind, he's thinking, damn, I fucked up, but he's never gonna say that publicly.

SPEAKER_04

So do you want to see this current roster win? Or because if I'm a Yankee fan, I'm gonna tell you the truth. And I'm not saying this, uh I'm not saying this to be supply for because I'm a Met fan or whatever. Right, right, right. I honestly would want this team to fail as much as possible because I would want Brian Cashman out of my organization.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean, and they the only reason I didn't say that is because I've been preaching it over and over.

SPEAKER_04

They they target Booney. I mean, he's just easy target practice, but I I I would honestly would want Cashman. Oh my god, Tyrone Taylor with oh, it's a fly out, but another one that's gonna score. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, listen, man, I've said it on the show plenty of times before. One of the things that bothers me is when people say, Well, if the Yankees fire for Brian Cashman, then he's gonna be unemployed for just in five minutes. Okay, well, then fine. Let you go hire him and pay him to keep on making the playoffs every single year and not win a World Series.

SPEAKER_04

At this point, Brian Cashman to me is uh Bugshow Walter, Tom Thibodeau. He's the guy you hire to make your organization relevant and complete, but I don't think he exactly knows what to do to build a winner again. Faces loaded once more for the Mets with two outs.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, to me, and this is like a hockey reference, but he's like a Lou Lamarello where he was hot at the beginning of his tenure and he's been able to build consistent great teams, but he's never been able to ultimately win the real prize. But he adds credibility and adds some kind of stability to your organization, but it it's it you come up short-handed at the end. So Brian Cashman is like the Lou Lamarello of the MLB, as far as I'm concerned.

SPEAKER_04

The Mets are just tweeing off right now. Benji, another hit. And let me give you 13-6 bases load. No, man on third and second, 14-6 with uh Juan Soto at the plate, I think. No, or is it Bichette? Wow, what an inning for the Mets. I mean, I'm not saying they're this is signs of positivity, right? They were eight and four after they faced the Yankees, they were 10 and 5. And I think if they come away with this win, 11 and 5 so far, pretty good May. Here's Bishet. Oh, they have they have a position player of the Nationals pitching. He's throwing knuckle balls.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Spurs and Thunder is getting a little chippy. It's 89-82, still Spurs. And I didn't even know this. The Aaron Fox is out for game one. Oh, wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Just for game one, Bashes got a double ankle. 16-6 mets. Here comes that Juan Soto. Yeah, with an ankle. So Juan Soto's up at the plate. 16-6 mets. Man on second. And usually when they're losing by a lot or winning by a lot, that's when Soto hits a home run. And I fully expect him to hit one, especially against a guy who's not a regular pitcher. Vivas is uh wasn't Vivas a Yankee.

SPEAKER_03

No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_04

Soto cracked one, but he popped out. Inning over. I'm sure the Nationals are glad this inning is over. Vivas, I'm pretty sure. Let me check. He I know he's a position player and he's pitching for the Nats. Yankees had a VA. No, that would be a mistake. Yeah. This is a report.

SPEAKER_03

So the Yankees do have Jorbit Vivas. But he's still a Yankee. Five minutes left to go in the fourth quarter for the Spurs Thunder.

SPEAKER_04

Jason, you see how good I am?

SPEAKER_03

I mean Jorbit Vivas. You're the best beard in podcaster, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Jordan Vivas, 25 years old, former Yankee, is now a national, was pitching for the Nationals. He's a third baseman by trade against the Mets.

SPEAKER_03

Nice research.

SPEAKER_04

Wow. So 16-6 Mets. So where will you be watching the game tomorrow?

SPEAKER_03

Uh I will be at um Whiskey Priest in Hackensack, New Jersey with uh fellow former guests of 2 a.m. crew Desmond Pearce and Carlos Villa.

SPEAKER_04

I will be here in my basement, maybe live streaming on the Rick H show. Haven't decided yet. Um, but I will be watching that series um closely as I did with the last series. We'll maybe do a watch party. I don't know if it works out for you and I to uh do one of these watch party visits one more time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we'll just have to make sure that uh they're they're streaming at the same time and not spoiling anything.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I mean like go to an actual oh like you know, like American whiskey or something. Yeah, yeah. 8984 Spurs Thunder, 526 to go. Yep. Looks like San Antonio. Wow. First quarter 27-27, second quarter 20 24-17. San Antonio uh built the lead in the second, the third quarter was the same, 29-29. And it looks like OKC's firing back in the fourth. San Antonio scored nine points. OKC has scored 11 in the fourth. Um, the second quarter being the difference maker.

SPEAKER_03

SGA also became the MVP of the league once again.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, his trophy should be someone throwing themselves backwards. I mean, what can I say?

SPEAKER_03

They talk a lot about Brunson flopping, but I mean they they should call it the LeBron James uh trophy at this point.

SPEAKER_04

They they should. I mean, it's not taking anything away from SGA, but it's ridiculous. Uh some of these calls he gets, but whatever. Anyways, we will see you next week. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Now, I what's the schedule like? Well, actually, before we go, I just want to touch on one subject.

SPEAKER_04

No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03

So the NFL schedule came out. Okay, and it looks like the New York Giants have four primetime C uh uh games this season, and the New York Jets have zero, have zero, and most of the games start at one, with the exception one or two. I think there's like one or two that starts at four p.m. But um I personally don't mind it because I like one o'clock games and I wake up mad early. So sometimes if the game is going really good, uh you know, I'm gonna be extra tired the next morning. But uh this just goes to show the absolute disrespect or lack of respect rather that the NFL has for the New York Jets along with the Miami Dolphins and a couple others that don't have any prime game uh primetime games this season. There was five teams without any primetime games. Yeah, I forget I forget the rest, but I know the Jets and the Dolphins are are a part of that group.

SPEAKER_04

I know that though there's flex games, so it could be something that changes uh after week five. We don't know um the national score to run 16-17.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and if I'm not mistaken, the New York Jets don't have a bye week until week 13 or week 12.

SPEAKER_04

Which is awful. Yes. Um, our bye week is in the middle of the season, which is like a real bye week. Uh, I take a I took a look at our schedule, not bad. I think we should next week we'll cover like we did last year the wins and losses. Yeah, obviously we can't predict any of that because we were both wrong uh the previous season. But who knows? Who knows? Uh so the next time we record, the Knicks and Cavs would have played four games already. Uh and game five would be Wednesday because we record Tuesdays at night. So we would know a good chunk of the series already by the next time we go back on air.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I'm just looking at the schedule really quick. I apologize.

SPEAKER_04

No, go ahead.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Mets got one out. Kimbrough's got to get two more outs to close out this game for them.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so the Jets don't have a bye week until week 13. Jesus Christ. Yeah. And of course, the first game is against Robert Salah and the Tennessee Titans.

SPEAKER_04

And the former New York teams, because isn't uh what's his face?

SPEAKER_03

Dable on that stuff as well. He's the offensive coordinator, yeah. So first game is at Tennessee, and then we play home at Green Bay, and then we're on the road against Detroit and Chicago. But I'm gonna leave it there because we'll save it for next week. Uh so what are the first four for the Jets? The first four for the Jets are Tennessee Titans. It's at Tennessee, and then home against Green Bay, and then at Detroit, and then at Chicago.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, the reverse for the Giants. Obviously, we share a stadium. Primetime Sunday night football, Cowboys, of course, Monday night football Rams, week two at LA. Uh, and then we're back here at Tennessee at home, and week four would be Cardinals. So I see a couple wins the first four weeks. Yeah, I mean, I you know, look I'm looking at the schedule, you know. Yeah, I'm gonna give a little spoiler here. Looks like we play the AFC South.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'm gonna give a little spoiler here, but for the first four weeks, I think the Jets are going one and three, and that's because Dan Campbell is gonna look out for his boy Aaron Glenn and give them a win early in the season now, week three.

SPEAKER_04

I don't think so. I think that this is a big year for Dan Campbell, by the way. Big year, big, big year.

SPEAKER_03

This is even bigger year for Aaron Glenn because he already has doubters and naysayers, and people already think that he should be out the door. He needs to first and foremost, even before we even get to week three, he week one for the New York Jets is a must-win because you know that Robert Sala will be gunning against his former team and Woody Johnson and everything that happened to him at the at the end of his tenure with the Jets. You know, he's chomping at the bit and getting his guys prepared to make sure that they take that game in week one, and that is a huge must-win uh week one for Aaron Glenn that I don't feel as confident.

SPEAKER_04

Uh let me ask you right now if they're one and three and all those games are really close and tight and they're world coached, how would you feel?

SPEAKER_03

I would feel slightly better because I remember last year, even though we lost against uh the Pittsburgh Steelers and Aaron Rodgers, it was a high-scoring game and we kept it close and we almost did pull that game off, but then all of a sudden we fell off a cliff. So if you're gonna be competitive, make sure you keep that same energy and stay consistent. Even if you keep on losing games, but I see some kind of improvement, then it'll be something to build off of. But that was, I think, one of the biggest disappointments about last year is that even though we lost week one, we looked like a competent team. We were scoring uh touchdowns, we were only down just by a couple uh of uh, you know, and the only real reason we lost is because of that muff punt. We easily could have won that game very well. So we felt confident after week one, and then all of a sudden they turn back into a pumpkin.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we'll we'll run through the 2026 NFL schedule, we'll discuss an update on the Yankees and Mets season, and we will be in between game four and five when we record next, next Tuesday at nine. So I want to say goodnight to everybody and a beautiful dream. And because everybody tonight's going tonight, thinking about game one tomorrow. Enjoy it, enjoy game one. Uh the Nationals just got another base hit, but there's two outs. And we'll see you guys next week. Same time, same channel. I'm not worried about baseball to July, so let's go next.

SPEAKER_03

Go, New York, go, New York, go.

SPEAKER_04

See you guys next week.