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Fed Up: Our Forgotten Farmers. Our Rotting Australia.
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Australia is being controlled by a cabal. And, heaven help ups if food and fuel shortages continue. And, chances are, they will. Why?
State governments are making decisions about national security, something the Constitution says is strictly Federal business?
How is this allowed to happen?
Your local MP is driven by a constitution that matters more than Australia's?
A not to be missed conversation with Mike Holt.
Our next guest, Mike Holt, common law expert and strong advocate for all things Australia. Welcome to the show, Mike.
SPEAKER_00Good morning, thank you.
SPEAKER_01How are you this morning? All well in Queensland?
SPEAKER_00Oh yes, very well. And I hope you enjoyed your holiday.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I learned more than I anticipated, Mike, and it leads us back to the work that you're doing and the work that I support you doing, and that is making sure that Australia is governed the way it was intended, not the way it has been corrupted. And if you want to see corruption and you think it we're bad, the UK is no different. It's horrendous. And I stand very firmly with President Donald Trump when he stands up and says, Hang on a minute, guys, you've got to chip in and help here. And it couldn't be worse for our Australian farmers.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. And of course the the problem always comes back to government policy. And those government policies are supposed to be based on our constitution. But as you just mentioned in section 109, the states are no longer subject to anything to do with the federal government. They've they've basically they've severed that knot, and they're not acting according to the Constitution. They've gone back to pre-colonial times.
SPEAKER_01So essentially what we've got is six separate states. We don't have an Australia as such, if you could put it that simply.
SPEAKER_00Which makes you a question, what is ALBO's role in all of this now? He's obviously totally incompetent.
SPEAKER_01I don't think incompetence really captures it, does it? Because he's not the first Prime Minister to be in this position. So should we not say instead of ALBO, all Prime Ministers, as we just heard with my previous guest, Andrew Del Gleish, President of the Victorian Principles Association? We've got to the point where we're talking about policies and we're talking about ministerial orders and legislation here and there, yet we're not talking about the foundation, those fundamentals, which as you rightly point out, it's about that constitution. We don't understand our country. And if our schools don't understand it, and if our families don't understand it, then oh boy are we in trouble. And it's certainly not just Elbo, albeit that no, I don't think he's that intelligent.
SPEAKER_00No, you're absolutely right. But the problem, of course, with Albo is that he's now using that un assumed power to basically create problems for Australians that we don't need and we don't want.
SPEAKER_01You're spot on. And let's get back to the farmers. It's going to lead to food shortages, and with these food shortages, that's not just an overnight issue. We're talking about crops and harvesting and the dedication that our Australian farmers have had since the beginning of our country's establishment. And this is very much evident specifically between New South Wales and Victoria. As you well know, Mike, New South Wales was quite happy to accept rations. And you can have a look at the various acts of Parliament after the first fleet arrival, where oh, we'll just rely on the mother country to send us food and we'll ration it out to the people. Whereas in Victoria were quite enterprising and said, hang on, we can be self-sufficient. We don't need to rely on rations from New South Wales.
SPEAKER_00Look, I was born two years after the World War II. And I lived in England at that time, and just about every house had a garden out the back growing food. And this is the way we should be doing it. We can't rely on big farms to supply all our food. The big farms are necessary, and of course we want to support the farmers because they do a very good job. But they can't do that if they don't have the fuel to run the tractors and plant the seed. So we have a really big problem, and this sudden rise in petrol costs, attributing it to the war, is total rubbish. It's bad planning for many decades by state and federal governments. We don't have our own we don't have our own oil refineries here anymore, at least not to the number that we had years ago. And we're not producing our own fuel, even though South Australia, I believe, they've just discovered a huge oil field there.
SPEAKER_01That's right. There's plenty of oil under the ground. We're not making sure that Australia comes first. And it begs the question, what is it that our consecutive major parties have determined is the direction for Australia because they're certainly not backing Australia or Australians. I don't care what the latest campaign is. We certainly can't trust those that screwed up to look after us now.
SPEAKER_00Hit the tail on the head before when you said that it's not just Australia, it's in England, it's Canada, it's all the Commonwealth countries. We've been attacked by a cable of billionaires sitting over there at the G five or G seven moot meetings and making decisions about our country that we have no say in. This is the problem. And we've now got to get rid of this political system because it's destroying Australia, it's not building Australia.
SPEAKER_01On that, and you are spot on, this is where CUS and Commonwealth Nations and the NATO Alliance, and if you will, the Commonwealth Alliance, because Australia is not part of NATO, all banning together against the USA. It's very scary when they were quite happy to get the handouts and get protected by the USA for all these decades.
SPEAKER_00Let's get back to the farmers, because we could talk about the underlying problems that have caused these problems, but that's not going to help the farmers. I'm actually working with a lady who is just an amazing fighter for our rights and freedoms. I won't give you her name, but I will give you my email address.
SPEAKER_01Oh, let's do that in a minute. Let's just, as you said, let's rightfully get back to the farmers. What precisely is the current issue for farmers? Let's spell it out first.
SPEAKER_00There's a couple of them. First of all, they're not getting the support from the government they need. I believe now that far petrol stations in at least Victoria, maybe other states too, have been given a directive, they cannot sell fuel to the farmers. That's outrageous.
SPEAKER_01Michael, just repeat that again.
SPEAKER_00They are not allowed to serve fuel to the the farmers.
SPEAKER_01A state government directive.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So if it's a state government directive, it comes back to, I would think, national security.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_01Wouldn't that be a Commonwealth issue? So again, the state is dictating the fuel and ultimately food security of the nation.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_01So for our listeners, I'm speaking with Mike Holt, our constitution and common law commentator. And we're discussing the issues f and the plight of our farmers here in Australia. If our farmers go down, we go down. So this isn't a farming issue, this is a country issue, it's a national security issue being hijacked by the states.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. And it's all being allowed to happen by the political parties. There is a very big problem with political parties now. They are not there to serve the needs of the people. And in fact, when somebody joins a political party, they come under the political party constitution, which may have nothing to do with anything to to secure our country.
SPEAKER_01Indeed, indeed. And you've pointed that out really well, Mike, in that if we have a Commonwealth Constitution and then a state constitution that's in conflict with that, and then we have a political party who's in power that has its own constitution that's in conflict with the federal constitution, we've got a bunch of people who are picking and choosing how they're going to control the people of Australia.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_01So from that context, back to our farmers and back to national security. Fuel and food, the primary issues at the moment. What are your plans?
SPEAKER_00We need people to get involved in helping the country because the politicians and the government are not doing it. So if you've got a trailer, fill it up with food, whatever you can take up there to the farmers, and just drive to a country town and find out where the farmers are and give it to them. Also, I had an email from a chap the other day who's volunteered to fill his trailer up with 44 gallon drums of diesel and driving it up. Now, of course, with the cost of petrol and and diesel going up so high, that might become untenable. But if people then could set up a a donations system, maybe we can start getting the fuel to the farmers so they can get on with their jobs.
SPEAKER_01That's an excellent point. And what came to mind as you were saying that was the number of charitable organisations in the country and the number of food banks that are collecting food and so forth. And I wonder whether or not your friend and or yourself or whoever's looking after this campaign could get in touch with these charitable organisations. They will clearly say and claim and rightfully that they're already providing support to families in need. But we tend to forget that their only means of survival is quite often through government funding itself.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_01So again, we've got a control issue. The government can shut down these charities at any time, and uh bingo, we've got it an additional problem.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's got to come from the people. Right? We the people are responsible for our country. And most people now don't even understand this. That's right. But it all comes back to us. Who gives the power to the government?
SPEAKER_01That word power is concerning to me because it shouldn't be power, it should be representation.
SPEAKER_00Right to act.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. And as Australians, we according to our constitution, it's up to us to determine who represents us and most importantly our will. What is our will, our desire for effective governance and representation? If we could get rid of the word power, then I think we're in a much better place because that's the game they're playing. That's the game the political parties are playing.
SPEAKER_00I stand corrected. You are absolutely right. It should be about authority to act.
SPEAKER_01But that's right, and authority uh goes hand in hand with accountability and responsibility.
SPEAKER_00That's right.
SPEAKER_01Back to the farmers, and m I have to say, Mike, one of my big concerns if things go down south for too long, I would hate to see more farmers taking their lives because we've seen this before. We had major increases in death rates of farmers around the country, and I just don't want to see that happen again. So, any suggestions as to what your group might do there?
SPEAKER_00As I said before, it really comes back to the people of Australia. We've all got to pull together and start helping the farmers ourselves. We can't afford to just sit back and say, Oh, it's terrible and wring our hands. We've got to get act active. And I know not everybody can do it, but everybody can do one small thing a day.
SPEAKER_01That's indeed true. And one of the other concerns as well is that Thailand, for example, and Vietnam, they're urging as many people as possible to work from home. Now that's the COVID alarm bells start ringing, and if countries start doing that all over again and we have people working from home, these small businesses that are just starting to recover will be in dire straits again. And I have to say Matt Canavan, he's the new nationals leader, spoke out about wanting to bring back family Sundays. Now, in theory that sounds great, but in practice there are a lot of families that rely on Sunday trade because we've got too many working from home already.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So we've got this ridiculous cycle of these crazy statements made by these people who are in power or opposing the power. So even being in opposition, they still hold the power because we are not speaking out and we are not doing enough as Australians. And you're spot on, we need to be doing more.
SPEAKER_00It all comes back to education, and uh your previous conversation was most enlightening because the teachers now are feeling that they've been abandoned and they're going on strike. But what are they going on strike for, Cheryl?
SPEAKER_01They're going on strike for money.
SPEAKER_00Well that's not what that's not good. What we need here is commitment.
SPEAKER_01Indeed. And one of the other concerns that we have is the distance between farming communities or farmers and their neighbour. Correct me if I'm wrong, that power companies have the authority to take over farmers' land to put power lines up.
SPEAKER_00Oh yes, that's outrageous. And I suggested to my friend that she needs to be talking to the farmers. They need to form groups like common law assemblies. They get together once a month and they talk about their problems and how to fix them. Because you're always looking for solutions. It's not just whining about the problems. But they need to form groups and then a flying squad of maybe a hundred farmers. One farmer gets attacked by these power companies, a hundred farmers turn up at their gate and say, No, you're not getting on this land. It's up to we the people to defend ourselves. Government's not.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. And this comes back to people who might want to support the farmers by, as you said, taking diesel fuel up and and doing what they can in terms of delivery, to put their tents in their cars and stay for a week or so and just spend some time getting to know the farmers so that they can rally the troops, if you will, when that's required. Because once the f the fuel issue is over, this power issue will stay. And it is, as you said, about creating communities of support. Couldn't agree more. And the more we can do that, the better off we'll be, and then that these assemblies will expand across the country as quickly as we can get them if we start acting now.
SPEAKER_00Yes, and I want to give you m my email address because I will pass on any inquiries to help the farmers to this lady and she will coordinate it. My email address is Mike at Mikeholtshow.com. That's my podcast website, mikeholsshow.com.
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SPEAKER_01Mike, so just to wrap up our conversation, which has been tremendous, we're talking about farmers needing fuel and that fuel enabling them to continue to provide food for Australia. When that is supported, we're getting to know our communities of strength start to unfold where we can protect one another against the tyranny of governments who are not protecting us, and then from that point on that support can continue because we're getting to know our neighbours and with the power line issue that is ever present. And but the taking of land by these power companies is around the corner, and we have to be able to rally against that. And again, I think of about a hundred men standing there that would normally go rabbiting or do what they need to do, standing there with their guns and saying not there to shoot, not there to do anything else, but to protect because that's what land holding is all about is protection. And of course, I think back to Tasmania and that tragedy and this sudden let's get rid of arms in Australia and again the Commonwealth relinquished that to the states. So it's this has been a long time coming, Mike.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, look, this whole push to get rid of arms in Australia, privately held arms, is rubbish because if we don't know how to protect ourselves and we don't have the tools to do so, we are in dire danger from an authoritarian government.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt. Yep. Mike, a fantastic conversation. Thanks for all of your support for this show and for the Australian people. We'll continue to work together and unpack these big concerns and ensure that we start getting more action. So for our listeners, email Mike, Mike at myholtshow.com, and let's get communities working together to get rid of the tyrannical governments we've got. Thanks very much, Mike.
SPEAKER_00My pleasure. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Thank you.